Skills Data Digest - Webinar 3
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TLDREv webinar di navbera ji bo amusedên amârên feyzê a Îrlandayê derbas e, guhertindin û třbendin di feyzên emerî nişan dikin hûn œuvre da iconGiGParameters hilberberîya zadekarî. Tu biguherîya çûnka tu li ser zоrûyî dikev zаrret nousin bi zиr'a bêjin sо mțilorulа, ve basicı té hnd girite cubeîn ţeneyʼæin ku divâr.
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- 🔍 Di jêkêlan da beraqekê ji bo demkartan û danobjikan dijw.
Linea temporale
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
Norah Trench van Irish University's Associationê pêşniyarîya webinarên nimêverên înternetê dide, da ku jî bo çalakî û xalên zanîngeh awkirin destûrê dide. Ew ji ber hilberîna pêşgotina bêhiyaw a zanyarî li ser xebatên li ser pêkanîn û pêdiviyan fêrî ye.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Dr. Sheamus McGinnis xebata xwe li ser pêdiviyan fêrî ya pêşketinî li ser Teknolojîya Qedropol a hilbijartinê diyarî kir. Ew di binî meîkrozoftê lê dibe û di xebateke tevahî fêrbûna fêt dikin.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Xebata Pêwîstiyên Fêrî AMYNê di armanca xwe de pêştextir dike ku çawa Teknolojiyên nû hûnermendiyê û karmendiyê mezin dikin. Ew dide ku zanîngeh pêwîstiyên yên kevn nêtijî kirin û hûnermendan baateyek fêrî nedan.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Xebatên pêşketina ji bo fermanên karî di heta 5 salî de têne çêkirin û pêdiviyan fêrî li ser fêrbunan fêt hûnerman ne da ku jî hûnermendan pîvaziya fêrbûna li Teknolojiyê baz dike.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Fêdîi jê derheqê ji bo pargîdaniya blockchain li geloşkê dijwar an gerdûnî dîti, hûnermendan digerên pargîdaniyên zanîngeh ya harmonize kiriye. Yên pêkarê xebatiyan pêşpitîne lê hûnermenda neteweyî ne Dem.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Xebateke fêrbûn a din li ser blockchain leverdanên EUê rast dike û piştgirîya zanîngeh di meqama hûnermenda irlandî de pêvazî dike. Ew gotar wê pêwîstiyên fêrbûna baş dike.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Di lêkolînên zanistek de 10 pêncayan nîşan dide ku pêdiviyan fêrî ya blockchain, AI û Automation li hûnermenda Irlandî binpêndike û piştgirî ye.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Di vê seetê de lêkolîn li carenan diyadin ku dikarin hûnermendan xwe xebatbikî û xebatan hono mucetel biken. Ew digotin ku di van lêkolînan de, pirsgîrêka hûnermî bû pênc kêm di qutan de heye û tiştinber li hûr bû.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
Zanîngeh bi zorî digot di van lêkolînên derheqê di fisharê di nav şahî û gotarqandin de wateyên fêt biken. Zanîngehê di nîştimanê devka fêt dike.
- 00:45:00 - 00:52:25
Fêrbûna vî xebat? Wateyên nezirî û nîşanên fêt dimîne gotara hûnermenda zêde jî temam dike. Xebateka tevn zanyarî ya nû ji bo futbeşî ya albîtedir.
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- 00:00:00uh hearty welcome to everyone and good
- 00:00:03afternoon uh my name is Norah trench BS
- 00:00:07I'm the head of lifelong learning and
- 00:00:09skills at the Irish University's
- 00:00:12Association um and this is the the third
- 00:00:15um iua skills data digest that we have
- 00:00:18hosted they H kicked off earlier
- 00:00:21this year and the idea behind these um
- 00:00:26skills data D digest as a number of you
- 00:00:29may know is it's a series of lunchtime
- 00:00:33webinars um they are organized
- 00:00:36specifically for colleagues across the
- 00:00:38iua member universities um and it's an
- 00:00:42opportunity to present and to discuss
- 00:00:45some of the key skills uh data
- 00:00:49Publications research coming from uh our
- 00:00:52national skills
- 00:00:54architecture and to support the
- 00:00:56dissemination of This research across
- 00:00:59the
- 00:01:00universities um we previously heard from
- 00:01:03the slmr on the national skills bulletin
- 00:01:07we also heard from the expert group on
- 00:01:09future skills needs on their skills for
- 00:01:12biofarma
- 00:01:14report um and the recordings of those
- 00:01:18webinars and the slides that were
- 00:01:20presented at them um they're they're
- 00:01:22both uh available on the iua
- 00:01:26website um today as you know and and as
- 00:01:30you can see on this screen we're going
- 00:01:32to be hearing um about a recent esri
- 00:01:36report which is on skills requirements
- 00:01:38for emerging
- 00:01:41Technologies um This research is around
- 00:01:45uh demand and supply for for automation
- 00:01:49for AI for blockchain related jobs in
- 00:01:53Ireland and we're going to be hearing
- 00:01:55from one of the authors of the report Dr
- 00:01:58Sheamus mcginness who's a research
- 00:02:00professor in the
- 00:02:02esri um what's also interesting about
- 00:02:04this uh particular piece of um research
- 00:02:07is that it is it is a part of um The
- 00:02:13Joint skills research program on Irish
- 00:02:16skills requirements which the which the
- 00:02:19ESR and the department of further higher
- 00:02:23education research Innovation and
- 00:02:24science um have been running for a few
- 00:02:27years so it'll I suppose also be an in
- 00:02:30opportunity to hear a bit about that uh
- 00:02:34program um like I said earlier after
- 00:02:37Sheamus's presentation we'll have a
- 00:02:39chance for uh questions answers and
- 00:02:42exchange so um I'm hoping we can have a
- 00:02:46lively interaction so please please do
- 00:02:49think of uh questions you would like to
- 00:02:51pose to the presenter um and and then
- 00:02:55finally just to say uh you will have
- 00:02:57seen today's session is being
- 00:03:00recorded um we will follow up by email
- 00:03:04with the recording and with the slides
- 00:03:06after afterwards so please do pass it on
- 00:03:09to any interested colleagues across your
- 00:03:12uh University who may also wish to be
- 00:03:15added to the iua skills data D digest
- 00:03:19mailing list so that's plenty from me H
- 00:03:23without further Ado I'd like to please
- 00:03:25hand over to
- 00:03:28Sheamus Thank you very much uh Nora and
- 00:03:31uh thank you for the invite it's a great
- 00:03:33opportunity to present the research
- 00:03:36there and we're very happy to do
- 00:03:37so so as noris said this is um piece of
- 00:03:41work that was done under the joint
- 00:03:42research program a relatively new joint
- 00:03:44research program between the SRI and Def
- 00:03:47first um so we have a series of these
- 00:03:49programs in The Institute and the idea
- 00:03:51is that you know over a two-year period
- 00:03:54we would undertake a series of studies
- 00:03:56um that would be linked um and would
- 00:03:58build on each other and then um if it's
- 00:04:01in mutually agreed the program would be
- 00:04:03extended or would stopped if it's if
- 00:04:05it's deemed of met its uh requirements
- 00:04:08so this is the first study um that we've
- 00:04:10published we're currently undertaking a
- 00:04:12second study where we're looking at the
- 00:04:14National Training fund we're looking at
- 00:04:16all the major funding streams under that
- 00:04:18fund we're looking at for each of those
- 00:04:21elements we for example we're looking at
- 00:04:23what are the objectives what are the key
- 00:04:25uh recipients um what are the what are
- 00:04:28the key capis that Pro from that and
- 00:04:30then we ask the question how would you
- 00:04:32evaluate or measure that fund or how
- 00:04:33should it be measured what data
- 00:04:36information is being collected and is
- 00:04:37that is sufficient for evaluation
- 00:04:40purposes um with the really the goal to
- 00:04:43to to ensure that at least going forward
- 00:04:45we start making the steps of having a
- 00:04:48proper data infrastructure in place
- 00:04:50where we can properly measure and
- 00:04:53evaluate um the very significant um
- 00:04:56streams of of funding that are that are
- 00:04:58going to particular uh projects under
- 00:05:01the National Training fund and and
- 00:05:03elsewhere but uh in terms of this
- 00:05:05research today um this is our first
- 00:05:09study um and basically um what this is
- 00:05:13about is is to try and assess to what
- 00:05:17extent are changing our emerging
- 00:05:21technology is important for the Irish
- 00:05:22labor market so we know that there's
- 00:05:24rapid technological change um within uh
- 00:05:27within the world and and obviously labor
- 00:05:30markets are impacted by that um but it's
- 00:05:32particularly important from an Irish
- 00:05:34perspective
- 00:05:36that the system is prepared and
- 00:05:38particularly the Education and Training
- 00:05:40System is prepared and forewarned of any
- 00:05:44changes in technological progress that
- 00:05:47are that are impacting the demand for
- 00:05:49jobs so obviously that we we can uh make
- 00:05:52sure that we have provision in place um
- 00:05:55as that demand grows and that's
- 00:05:56particularly important for a country uh
- 00:05:59like Ireland which
- 00:06:02has built a lot of its growth on
- 00:06:05ensuring that we're able to cater for
- 00:06:06the needs of particularly high-tech
- 00:06:08multinational companies so it's
- 00:06:10important that we have proper foresight
- 00:06:12and we're able to understand how the
- 00:06:14world is changed in terms of
- 00:06:15technological change and what jobs are
- 00:06:17emerging in that context traditionally
- 00:06:20when we sort of forecast out what we
- 00:06:23think the labor market will look like in
- 00:06:25five years so we can then um advise
- 00:06:27educational and training providers what
- 00:06:30coures they need to um put in place so
- 00:06:33what and what the skill content of that
- 00:06:34would be we would use traditional manp
- 00:06:37par forecasting
- 00:06:39models and this would require us using
- 00:06:41historical data such as the labor force
- 00:06:43uh survey data and then projecting past
- 00:06:46Trends into the future the problem is
- 00:06:48that data is very old so there's usually
- 00:06:50an 18th month month lag before we get um
- 00:06:53so if if the the labor force data that
- 00:06:55would be available now get into 2024
- 00:06:58would be relate into 20 23 possibly 2022
- 00:07:01it's it's relatively old um so by the
- 00:07:04time we we get that data and we project
- 00:07:06those Trends into the future the world
- 00:07:08has already changed so we need to move
- 00:07:10away from using these historical
- 00:07:13forecasting approaches and labor market
- 00:07:15intelligent approaches and look at using
- 00:07:18more more current data and different
- 00:07:20approaches that allows us to get timely
- 00:07:23insights into particularly labor markets
- 00:07:26where there's going to be a lot of
- 00:07:27change and that relates to labor markets
- 00:07:28that are driven by new
- 00:07:31technologies so the goal of this work is
- 00:07:33really to develop a methodological
- 00:07:35framework that allows us to identify
- 00:07:38what are the important new technologies
- 00:07:40that are emerging within the Irish labor
- 00:07:42market to forecast the extent to which
- 00:07:45uh we have sufficient provision in terms
- 00:07:47of the number of places within the Irish
- 00:07:49system to to meet that demand going
- 00:07:51forward and ideally uh we also want to
- 00:07:54look at what are the types of skills and
- 00:07:56competencies uh that these new courses
- 00:07:59will will will will will demand in terms
- 00:08:01of the technical skills and the other
- 00:08:04types of competencies that will be
- 00:08:05required so that there is enough
- 00:08:08information in terms of the um the
- 00:08:12number of courses um that are required
- 00:08:15in terms of these new emerging
- 00:08:18Technologies and also the skills and
- 00:08:19competencies that should be contained
- 00:08:21within the curriculum to inform the
- 00:08:24policy side of things in terms of the
- 00:08:25fet profis and people that are involved
- 00:08:28in this meeting um at the
- 00:08:30moment and really the goal of our
- 00:08:32research is is was to set up and develop
- 00:08:35this methodology that then can be used
- 00:08:37going forward um so this can be
- 00:08:40reran next year and the situation might
- 00:08:44change might have Chang radically in
- 00:08:46terms of these technologies that are
- 00:08:48that are out there they may be more
- 00:08:49diffusion in the labor market this type
- 00:08:52of approach will pick that up our new
- 00:08:54technologies will emerge this approach
- 00:08:56will will will spot that so it's it's to
- 00:08:58develop a dynamic framework in terms of
- 00:09:00Labor Market intelligence that allows us
- 00:09:03to capture new skills um as they emerge
- 00:09:06in ter in terms of employment and also
- 00:09:08um to allow
- 00:09:11for a system that will that will capture
- 00:09:14changes in those demands as we move
- 00:09:18forward so I'm not going to go into an
- 00:09:20awful lot of the methodology in terms of
- 00:09:22exactly um what we did but basically we
- 00:09:24started off we have a Steering group um
- 00:09:27and we asked for 10 or 12
- 00:09:31areas of new technology that were deemed
- 00:09:34to be potentially important out there in
- 00:09:37the
- 00:09:37world and what we did then was we went
- 00:09:40in and we scraped a number of vacancy
- 00:09:43job job vacancy sites such as LinkedIn
- 00:09:47and jobs.ie Etc um to see exactly how
- 00:09:50important all of these terms were in
- 00:09:52terms of the actual number of job
- 00:09:54adverts uh that were being um put out by
- 00:09:57employers and
- 00:10:00when we completed that exercise we found
- 00:10:03that in terms of these new technology
- 00:10:06areas um the the highest number of job
- 00:10:09adverts were in Automation and
- 00:10:11artificial intelligence so those were
- 00:10:12employers that specifically were trying
- 00:10:14to hire into these fields um another um
- 00:10:19aspect that we included here was
- 00:10:21blockchain because blockchain has also
- 00:10:23been deemed to be important at a
- 00:10:25European level um and actually my team
- 00:10:27and the SRI have been running running
- 00:10:29the the forecasts for blockchain jobs
- 00:10:32for at an EU level for the last number
- 00:10:34of years um both for for for a project
- 00:10:39that's been funded by arasmus so again
- 00:10:41this work sort of Builds on the
- 00:10:42methodologies that we developed for that
- 00:10:44blockchain work for the EU but
- 00:10:46specifically focusing in now on the
- 00:10:48Irish labor
- 00:10:51market so what are the goals of This
- 00:10:56research first of all we will PR provide
- 00:10:59a detailed analysis of the trends in
- 00:11:02terms of the the number of jobs that are
- 00:11:05being advertised for these emerging
- 00:11:07Technologies in Ireland and how they're
- 00:11:08changing over
- 00:11:09time we will then map those jobs we will
- 00:11:13take those jobs and we will create
- 00:11:15forecasts for both the total demand for
- 00:11:18jobs going forward over a fiveyear
- 00:11:20period and then we figure out what
- 00:11:22proportion of those jobs are related to
- 00:11:24new graduates and then we map those
- 00:11:27against what we think the supply of new
- 00:11:28graduates in these three specific areas
- 00:11:31are will be that is uh blockchain Ai and
- 00:11:36Automation in addition to checking
- 00:11:39whether or not we have the right number
- 00:11:40of graduates in these areas or
- 00:11:42sufficient number of graduates in these
- 00:11:43areas we also look and use the
- 00:11:46information within this job
- 00:11:47advertisement data to look at the
- 00:11:49competencies and skills uh that
- 00:11:51employers are requiring in each area and
- 00:11:54specifically we break them down into the
- 00:11:55technical skills um that employers are
- 00:11:57looking for the business related skills
- 00:11:59and the transversal skills and clearly
- 00:12:02these are factors that should inform
- 00:12:04curriculum development in each array so
- 00:12:07it's important to have obviously the
- 00:12:09right numbers of graduates but it's also
- 00:12:10important that these courses are
- 00:12:12equipping the graduates with the correct
- 00:12:14competencies that employers are at least
- 00:12:17asking for we also measure the extent
- 00:12:21and we develop a methodology that allows
- 00:12:22us to measure the extent to which jobs
- 00:12:25are vacancies men
- 00:12:27be remain on M there may be unfilled
- 00:12:30vacancies or skill shortages in each
- 00:12:32respective are area and we also in this
- 00:12:35research um have carried out a number of
- 00:12:37consultative workshops with employers
- 00:12:40for the purposes of a verifying that
- 00:12:43they're that what we've produced here is
- 00:12:46reasonable in their View and then to get
- 00:12:49more information in terms of the skills
- 00:12:50and competencies in the current state of
- 00:12:53both the demand for emerging
- 00:12:55Technologies and Perceptions in terms of
- 00:12:58the adequacy of what's be produced by
- 00:13:00the Education and Training
- 00:13:03Systems so in terms of our of our data
- 00:13:06here we use a number of sources to to
- 00:13:08measure the demand for new jobs in these
- 00:13:10emerging Technologies we use data from
- 00:13:12lightcast data this is a data source
- 00:13:14that basically captures everything
- 00:13:16that's out there in the world in terms
- 00:13:18of job advertisement data this data is
- 00:13:21been currently be used by you know the
- 00:13:24um European commission uses it for their
- 00:13:26ovet tool the ILO the oecd uh so this is
- 00:13:29a very very widely used um labor market
- 00:13:33intelligence data source uh that has
- 00:13:36been harnessed by uh by most of the main
- 00:13:39agencies and out there both at a
- 00:13:40European level an oecd level and at a
- 00:13:43national level as well we also um scrap
- 00:13:47LinkedIn data ourselves uh for Ireland
- 00:13:50um and then we plug everything into the
- 00:13:51sadif fob um forecasting system in order
- 00:13:55to generate our forecast of what we
- 00:13:57think the number of total jobs in each
- 00:13:59area will be over a period and also what
- 00:14:02will the number of jobs related to new
- 00:14:05graduates be the supply side data uh
- 00:14:08comes from was provided to us by the H
- 00:14:10uh Solus and qqi basically on the number
- 00:14:12of courses that are being produced in
- 00:14:15each of these areas AI automated and
- 00:14:17blockchain and as I said we also do the
- 00:14:20consultation with the
- 00:14:23employers so the first thing to look at
- 00:14:25this is the um the share of light cast
- 00:14:28this is basic B the share of the jobs in
- 00:14:31each of these areas uh using the light
- 00:14:33cast data for Ireland over the period uh
- 00:14:3620 18 to 2023 so the first point to make
- 00:14:40is whilst there's a lot of talk about
- 00:14:42the importance particularly of AI and
- 00:14:44Automation in the past less so
- 00:14:46blockchain actually um these jobs that
- 00:14:50require specialist skills in these areas
- 00:14:53are are quite small um and they're not
- 00:14:56really growing very rapidly over time so
- 00:14:58if you look at for example automation
- 00:15:01that is the largest uh grouping in terms
- 00:15:04of these emerging Technologies so that
- 00:15:06accounts for about one and a half% of
- 00:15:08all jobs that are advertised within the
- 00:15:10lightcast data for Ireland over time and
- 00:15:12it hasn't changed very much the the AI
- 00:15:15there you can see it's it's between half
- 00:15:16a percent and 1.2% and you can see the
- 00:15:20blockchain actually is very very small
- 00:15:21at less than 0.2 of a% of total jobs
- 00:15:25that are advertised in Ireland over the
- 00:15:27this period and and many going in very
- 00:15:29much and that's something that we picked
- 00:15:31up in our forecasts uh when we were
- 00:15:33doing the work on blockchain at an EU
- 00:15:35level and this isn't just an Ireland in
- 00:15:37terms of that flatlining demand for
- 00:15:39blockchain jobs it's it's an EU wide
- 00:15:42pattern and we are not unique in this so
- 00:15:46if you look at this chart this is the
- 00:15:48pattern of AI job growth using lightcast
- 00:15:51data uh for a number of countries and
- 00:15:53you can see um whilst it's generally
- 00:15:56trading up in some countries it's it's
- 00:15:57flatter but it's basically between half
- 00:15:59a percent and 1 and a half% of all jobs
- 00:16:02that are advertised so it's not the case
- 00:16:06that these jobs are are are growing
- 00:16:09massively in Ireland over time they
- 00:16:11they're not that's not to say that these
- 00:16:13Technologies aren't being diffused
- 00:16:14throughout other jobs we are looking
- 00:16:16basically here at Specialists required
- 00:16:19to work in the areas of blockchain AI
- 00:16:22and Automation and so the trends are
- 00:16:23quite small and they're they're
- 00:16:26relatively um flat
- 00:16:30so how do we measure the demand uh and
- 00:16:32Supply going forward for these three
- 00:16:35areas well basically what we do is we
- 00:16:38use the lightcast data and we figure out
- 00:16:40exactly how for example automation jobs
- 00:16:43are distributed across
- 00:16:45occupations um and once we figure out
- 00:16:47what sure that for example AI makes up
- 00:16:52of of of say the um of an occupation
- 00:16:55then we can plug that into the um to the
- 00:16:58forecasting and we can run forecasts for
- 00:17:00a 5year period so if we look here in
- 00:17:03terms of the AI jobs when we script the
- 00:17:07data from uh from light class and then
- 00:17:09we look at how that's distributed across
- 00:17:11occupation so we can see that for
- 00:17:13example the AI jobs uh 80% of them are
- 00:17:17are contained within just 10 occupations
- 00:17:19and specifically when we look at 30% of
- 00:17:22all I jobs are are information and
- 00:17:24communication uh professionals
- 00:17:26occupation about 11% 12% in science and
- 00:17:30engineering professionals and then about
- 00:17:32further 11% in uh business and
- 00:17:35Associated professionals and then the
- 00:17:37shares uh fall off uh quite considerably
- 00:17:40and and then about 20% of all AI jobs
- 00:17:43are outside of these
- 00:17:45occupations so basically what we do here
- 00:17:48is for example we would say What
- 00:17:49proportion of the total share of ICT
- 00:17:52professionals are AI workers so say
- 00:17:56that's 2% we then plug that 2% into the
- 00:17:59saop data um and the basis of what is
- 00:18:02forecast by saop for information and
- 00:18:05communication Professionals for Ireland
- 00:18:08over a 5year period 2% of those jobs
- 00:18:10will be allocated to Ai and we do that
- 00:18:13across all occupations so in that way we
- 00:18:16figure out what the total demand for
- 00:18:18these occupations will be uh over a
- 00:18:205year
- 00:18:21period so there's a couple of things to
- 00:18:23note there you may say well the
- 00:18:26situation next year could be very
- 00:18:27different these are rapidly changing OC
- 00:18:30occupations and job areas that's true so
- 00:18:33then all we need to do next year is to
- 00:18:35go in here rerun this analysis if we see
- 00:18:38increased shares or increased diffusion
- 00:18:41across other occupations that would be
- 00:18:43picked up immediately and the forecast
- 00:18:45could be updated immediately so when I'm
- 00:18:47saying that the key to this methodology
- 00:18:49is that is highly Dynamic that it can be
- 00:18:52updated almost immediately if there are
- 00:18:54changes in the labor market position of
- 00:18:56the emerging technologies that we've
- 00:18:58identified or new technologies come on
- 00:19:00board then we can do that very very
- 00:19:02easily you couldn't do that using the
- 00:19:04historical uh data approaches that I
- 00:19:07spoke about
- 00:19:09earlier then we uh we also
- 00:19:12simultaneously scried uh LinkedIn data
- 00:19:14for Ireland and we figured out what
- 00:19:17proportion of total jobs in each area
- 00:19:20require experienced graduates and these
- 00:19:22are all graduate level jobs or What
- 00:19:24proportion experience require uh new
- 00:19:27entrance and about 40 we estimate around
- 00:19:2940% of all jobs in each of these areas
- 00:19:32are for new entrance and we use that to
- 00:19:34calculate our new entrant demand so new
- 00:19:38entrance demand for a for over the
- 00:19:39forecast period will be 40% of the total
- 00:19:42demand in each
- 00:19:43area I hope that's probably as clear as
- 00:19:46mud but anyway on the supply side then
- 00:19:49we just look at the number of courses
- 00:19:51that are available in each area this is
- 00:19:53information that's given to us uh from a
- 00:19:55range of sources including hii Solace
- 00:19:57and qqi so they tell us the number of um
- 00:20:01the courses in Ai blockchain and
- 00:20:03automation over the 2020 and 21 period
- 00:20:06we aage them and then we multiply them
- 00:20:08by um by by four in order to get the
- 00:20:11total Supply over the forecast period so
- 00:20:14it's quite of a it's quite a a
- 00:20:16mechanical exercise and then we map
- 00:20:18Supply against demand so here the total
- 00:20:20demand for artificial intelligence jobs
- 00:20:23over the forecast period 21 to 25 and we
- 00:20:26also do it for 25 to 2030 was two and a
- 00:20:29half
- 00:20:30thousand 40% of that would be the um
- 00:20:34would be the The Graduate demand uh so
- 00:20:37that's just over a thousand and we
- 00:20:39figure out that on the basis of the
- 00:20:41information that we've been given there
- 00:20:43will be about 1,500 uh places uh in
- 00:20:46terms of graduates coming out onto the
- 00:20:48labor market over that period um so if
- 00:20:50you look across the board it looks as if
- 00:20:52uh graduate demand has been more met by
- 00:20:55Supply particularly in artificial
- 00:20:57intelligence not so much in blockchain
- 00:20:59but we figure that there are actually
- 00:21:00more potential courses out there in
- 00:21:02blockchain than than the 80 that's been
- 00:21:04that was been specified to us blockchain
- 00:21:06is another one specifically that may not
- 00:21:09necessarily require specialist graduates
- 00:21:11but could be facilitated by having
- 00:21:13blockchain modules in general ICT
- 00:21:16degrees but um the based on how these
- 00:21:20Technologies are diffused throughout the
- 00:21:22labor market at the moment there doesn't
- 00:21:24seem to be any worries in terms of the
- 00:21:26ability of the Irish system to meet the
- 00:21:28needs of the labor market in terms of
- 00:21:30the demand for new graduates uh going
- 00:21:33forward over the forecast period and we
- 00:21:34do this also for uh
- 00:21:372025 to
- 00:21:392029 again the details are all in the
- 00:21:43reports so another issue um to deal with
- 00:21:46to look at here is even if you've got
- 00:21:48the numbers right in terms of okay we
- 00:21:50have enough graduates to meet demand
- 00:21:51across these three emerging technology
- 00:21:54areas if the curriculum structure isn't
- 00:21:58correct and not meeting the needs of
- 00:21:59employers if they're not getting the
- 00:22:01skills that employers require uh then um
- 00:22:04you still have a problem you still will
- 00:22:05have skill shortages so again we use
- 00:22:09light cast data in order to understand
- 00:22:12what are the
- 00:22:13main competencies that are required
- 00:22:17within these three emerging Technologies
- 00:22:18and how what are the correlations
- 00:22:20between them um and and and and what are
- 00:22:23and what are the the skills that are
- 00:22:26area specific if you want so we I'm
- 00:22:29giving you the results here for um the
- 00:22:31total taxonomy for all jobs but we also
- 00:22:34break it down in the report to look
- 00:22:36specifically at the taxonomy in terms of
- 00:22:38the skills and the competencies that are
- 00:22:41required by employers for new graduates
- 00:22:43so that would be more relevant again for
- 00:22:44the curriculum um development side of
- 00:22:47things whereas the skills and
- 00:22:49competencies required across all
- 00:22:50graduates our senior graduates is more
- 00:22:52an issue in terms of lifelong
- 00:22:54learning the taxomony that diecast use
- 00:22:57they break it into into the technical
- 00:23:00the competencies that are required in
- 00:23:01terms of Technical and hard skills
- 00:23:03business skills and then these soft
- 00:23:05transversal
- 00:23:07skills and the first thing to note is
- 00:23:09that across all three areas um whilst
- 00:23:13obviously hard tactical skills are
- 00:23:16important um just under half of uh the
- 00:23:21competencies that are that are being
- 00:23:23requested for example by employers into
- 00:23:24automation our business and transversal
- 00:23:27um that figures just over 40% for
- 00:23:30artificial intelligence and 40% for
- 00:23:32blockchain skills so the first thing
- 00:23:34that emerges in terms of without looking
- 00:23:36at the specific competencies is that
- 00:23:38there is at least employers are asking
- 00:23:41uh for a high level of of Competency in
- 00:23:44both transversal and business
- 00:23:46competencies among for among new
- 00:23:48graduates entering the labor market in
- 00:23:51these emerging areas it isn't certainly
- 00:23:52all about having technical
- 00:23:57skills then we we um we look across the
- 00:24:00technical skills that are been asked for
- 00:24:02and and we look for similarities and
- 00:24:05basically these are the top 10 skills
- 00:24:07that are being asked for in these job
- 00:24:08adverts so for example in jobs that we
- 00:24:10identified for a for automation 34% of
- 00:24:15adverts ask for control um systems
- 00:24:19competencies if you look at artificial
- 00:24:21intelligence 61% of the of the job
- 00:24:23adverts in that area asked for um
- 00:24:27competency in machine learning learning
- 00:24:29and then if you look at blockchain uh
- 00:24:3031% of those jobs that the most
- 00:24:32frequently um requested competency was
- 00:24:35agile
- 00:24:36methodologies and then we have a coding
- 00:24:38system if a competency is asked
- 00:24:41in two of the uh of the emerging
- 00:24:45technology areas the code is orange if
- 00:24:48it is in three it's green if it is in
- 00:24:50Black it is H in if it there only asked
- 00:24:54specifically in one area then the it's
- 00:24:56black so what we see for example in
- 00:24:59computer science that owns one on
- 00:25:01artificial intelligence computer science
- 00:25:03is in the top 10 competencies that's
- 00:25:05required in blockchain and in artificial
- 00:25:07intelligence the same with agile
- 00:25:10methodology none of the competencies
- 00:25:12that are being requested by Employers in
- 00:25:14automation are common to either
- 00:25:17artificial intelligence or blockchain so
- 00:25:20that's important to note that the the
- 00:25:22competencies the Tactical competen
- 00:25:24required for automation jobs are very
- 00:25:26specific um whereas there is a common
- 00:25:29sort of there is a commonality between
- 00:25:30the competencies that are required uh
- 00:25:33for artificial intelligence and
- 00:25:35blockchain when we look at then the
- 00:25:38business skills that are asked for in
- 00:25:39these adverts we see much more
- 00:25:42commonality for example we we're
- 00:25:43starting to see green occurring here so
- 00:25:47uh management skills are asked for in
- 00:25:49automation jobs intelligence artificial
- 00:25:52intelligence jobs and blockchain jobs
- 00:25:54that that is the most common business
- 00:25:56related competency um there are
- 00:25:58competencies that are only common to
- 00:26:00artificial intelligence and blockchain
- 00:26:02such as marketing and business
- 00:26:03development and then there are still a
- 00:26:05series of business related competencies
- 00:26:08in automation that are specific to
- 00:26:10automation jobs process Improvement
- 00:26:12procurement training and development and
- 00:26:14time management and change
- 00:26:16management and then when we look at
- 00:26:17these transversal skills that are being
- 00:26:19requested by employers again uh these
- 00:26:22these common competencies are there's
- 00:26:24much more commonality you can see that
- 00:26:26there's 1 2 3 4 5 six seven of the top
- 00:26:2810 uh competencies are being required
- 00:26:31across all three areas with
- 00:26:34Communications uh being the top one
- 00:26:36across all three areas problem solving
- 00:26:39also uh proving to be a highly requested
- 00:26:42competency across all three emerging
- 00:26:44tech technology
- 00:26:46areas so we also do this in the report
- 00:26:49um for hard skills uh transversal
- 00:26:51business skills again separated out the
- 00:26:54demands that are put in place for jobs
- 00:26:58that are at the new graduate level only
- 00:27:00so those competency and that information
- 00:27:02would be more relevant uh
- 00:27:05for program development and particularly
- 00:27:07at the undergraduate
- 00:27:10level we also um try and measure the
- 00:27:13extent to which firms are struggling to
- 00:27:15fill posts in either in any of these
- 00:27:18areas we do that using LinkedIn
- 00:27:21data um and what we see is we the the
- 00:27:24value of the LinkedIn data is it tells
- 00:27:26us it has a good measure of how long the
- 00:27:28advert is live for it also tells us the
- 00:27:31number of applications um that any
- 00:27:34particular ad gets but on on the online
- 00:27:37system so you can see for example that
- 00:27:40across all three um areas the average
- 00:27:44duration of an ad is been 10 or 11 days
- 00:27:47the average number of applicants for
- 00:27:49each job is between 33 and 50 so what we
- 00:27:53say here is a job is likely to be
- 00:27:55struggling or there's likely to be a
- 00:27:59difficulty in terms of filling that job
- 00:28:01if it has a duration of more than 30
- 00:28:03days so it's three times longer than the
- 00:28:05average and it has less than 10
- 00:28:08applications okay so it's it's it's it's
- 00:28:11it has potentially less than 20% of the
- 00:28:14average number of people applying for it
- 00:28:16those we're not saying that those jobs
- 00:28:18are all likely to be skill shortages but
- 00:28:20the skill shortages are likely deeper
- 00:28:22content in that clump of jobs and when
- 00:28:25we look across then our measure we
- 00:28:28estimate that around 3.9% or less than
- 00:28:314% of jobs in blockchain are likely to
- 00:28:34be difficult to fill um but that figure
- 00:28:37Rises for about 7.7% or just under to 8%
- 00:28:40of automation jobs about 6% of jobs we
- 00:28:44estimate in the AI uh labor market are
- 00:28:46likely to be difficult to
- 00:28:48fill we do some econometric analysis in
- 00:28:52that I'll not bore you with that
- 00:28:53particularly but a couple of things um
- 00:28:56did arise in terms when we looked at the
- 00:28:58potential skill shortages we didn't find
- 00:29:00any evidence when we controlled for
- 00:29:02other things uh that potential skill
- 00:29:04shortages are are statistically higher
- 00:29:06in any one of the three areas compared
- 00:29:08to the other two um there may be a
- 00:29:11problem in terms of new graduates um
- 00:29:14within the automation um job
- 00:29:17market and and within particularly AI
- 00:29:20within within manufacturing the
- 00:29:21manufacturing sector and we did find
- 00:29:23that where jobs tended to have remote or
- 00:29:26hybrid working
- 00:29:28advertised as part of their um their job
- 00:29:31terms and conditions those jobs were
- 00:29:33much less likely to be U classified as
- 00:29:37skill potential skill shortages so the
- 00:29:39jobs that had the hybrid working uh or
- 00:29:42the remote working not surprisingly were
- 00:29:44more likely to be filled more quickly in
- 00:29:47each of these
- 00:29:48areas and then moving on to the final
- 00:29:51part of our analysis we basically asked
- 00:29:53then we had a series of workshops mostly
- 00:29:56um the firms that that attend the these
- 00:29:58workshops were really from the large uh
- 00:30:00multinational end of things were were
- 00:30:03tended to be more over
- 00:30:06represented so we asked them um
- 00:30:08basically do you think our methodology
- 00:30:10is sensible do the numbers look okay and
- 00:30:14generally the employers felt that
- 00:30:18our our methods looked looked perfectly
- 00:30:21fine and our numbers looked sensible but
- 00:30:23they did say that there was a risk in
- 00:30:24terms of the a AI labor market that the
- 00:30:27job could be that are demanded there in
- 00:30:30the future could be much higher than
- 00:30:31what we are predicting but as I said the
- 00:30:35because we have a dynamic approach here
- 00:30:37if we do see a rise in uh jobs in
- 00:30:40particular for instance Ai and so there
- 00:30:42there's higher shares across the the
- 00:30:44occupations that we looked at are across
- 00:30:46other occupations we could see that auto
- 00:30:48automatically on and immediately we
- 00:30:50could update our
- 00:30:52forecasts in terms of then the
- 00:30:55um other issues that the employers
- 00:30:58again um in terms of what is needed in
- 00:31:01the labor market they players F
- 00:31:04particularly in terms of AI there was a
- 00:31:06substantial amount of legal ethical and
- 00:31:09Regulatory change coming down the road
- 00:31:11so they pointed to example for the EU
- 00:31:13artificial intelligence act um and there
- 00:31:15was a similar concern for blockchain as
- 00:31:17well we're seeing increased regulation
- 00:31:19there and that in addition to the the
- 00:31:22technical uh people and the people with
- 00:31:24the technical skills there is also going
- 00:31:26to be a strong demand the employ first
- 00:31:28FA for people who can Implement and deal
- 00:31:30with the legal requirements and the
- 00:31:32regulators and the change in regulation
- 00:31:34requirement as we go forward so so there
- 00:31:37there is an increased demand for for
- 00:31:39legal Specialists and Regulatory
- 00:31:41specialists in these areas um and the
- 00:31:43employers felt that is important that
- 00:31:45policy needs to adjust in that respect
- 00:31:47as well to to help firms adjust to
- 00:31:51change in regular environment in these
- 00:31:53key technology areas going
- 00:31:56forward the employers also felt that
- 00:31:59again in consistent with what we found
- 00:32:01when we with the LinkedIn dat with the
- 00:32:03dcast data was that there is a strong
- 00:32:06need for transversal skills and work
- 00:32:08experience at entty level so people
- 00:32:10coming out from degrees um there was a
- 00:32:13sense that maybe the um the community
- 00:32:16the transversal um and and the and the
- 00:32:18business skills of current graduates um
- 00:32:22aren't what they have been in the past
- 00:32:23and that Co may have been um an
- 00:32:25explanation for for some of that um
- 00:32:29again in in addition to um teaching
- 00:32:33graduates or students technical
- 00:32:36capabilities um they they felt that it
- 00:32:38was also important that students had
- 00:32:40business capabilities that would teach
- 00:32:42them actually how to adapt with new
- 00:32:45technologies in a business environment
- 00:32:47and and that those skills to some extent
- 00:32:49needed to be they would like to see more
- 00:32:51of those capabilities in terms of the
- 00:32:53graduates that are coming on to the
- 00:32:55labor market again the importance of
- 00:32:57micr finals as a as a as a as a valuable
- 00:33:00tool to facilitate lifelong learning was
- 00:33:04um and upskilling was emphasized by the
- 00:33:05employers although there was concern
- 00:33:08that perhaps these weren't being adopted
- 00:33:10into the
- 00:33:11qqi qualification framework as quickly
- 00:33:14as as they would like and if if
- 00:33:15obviously if these microc credentials
- 00:33:17aren't widely recognized and aren't
- 00:33:19transferable then people are less likely
- 00:33:22to engage in
- 00:33:24them um and again there was a need they
- 00:33:26felt for IND and educational
- 00:33:29institutions uh to to collaborate more
- 00:33:32more more effectively and more
- 00:33:33intensively in order to smooth the
- 00:33:35transition uh from education to work for
- 00:33:38for young people graduating in these
- 00:33:42areas so in terms of uh just to sum up
- 00:33:46in terms of our conclusions um so what
- 00:33:49we think we have um attempted to do here
- 00:33:52is is developing a methodology that will
- 00:33:54allow us to identify um new and emerging
- 00:33:58technologies that are relevant
- 00:34:00particularly in for the Irish labor
- 00:34:02market as they emerge and as they evolve
- 00:34:05over time a technology that is highly
- 00:34:07Dynamic and that will allow us uh
- 00:34:10to to update uh the forecast and feed
- 00:34:13that information back into planning um
- 00:34:17as things
- 00:34:19evolve so I said the the objective then
- 00:34:22why are we doing this we're doing this
- 00:34:23so we have a system of in terms of lab
- 00:34:26Market intelligence and foresight
- 00:34:28uh that is dynamic uh that that can
- 00:34:31then translate into changes in in both
- 00:34:35the level and the nature of provision
- 00:34:37that will hopefully um help avoid skill
- 00:34:40shortages occurring in these key
- 00:34:42emerging technologies that are likely to
- 00:34:44be very important uh in terms of the
- 00:34:47future and continuing Economic
- 00:34:48Development as of the country as a
- 00:34:54whole we think that um generally
- 00:34:57speaking the research findings suggest
- 00:35:00that Ireland is relatively well placed
- 00:35:02to meet the demands for the emerging
- 00:35:04technologies that we've looked at um at
- 00:35:06the moment in terms of the level of um
- 00:35:10the level of courses that are being
- 00:35:12produced compared to what we think the
- 00:35:13number of graduates um that that are
- 00:35:16being required there are issues that
- 00:35:18need to be dealt with in terms of the
- 00:35:20regulatory environment and it's
- 00:35:23important also both the evidence from
- 00:35:25our lightcast theer and our consultation
- 00:35:28uh to ensure that
- 00:35:31um that the competencies that that
- 00:35:35students and graduates have are not just
- 00:35:37focused on the hard competencies but
- 00:35:39also the the rising importance of the
- 00:35:41technical and business competencies and
- 00:35:43this is something that we've picked up
- 00:35:45in our own research when we look at the
- 00:35:46high technology changes labor
- 00:35:49markets there were some catastrophic
- 00:35:52sort of predictions that you know 50 60%
- 00:35:54of jobs would be automated now we've got
- 00:35:56the data what we can actually see is
- 00:35:59that as technology is introduced it
- 00:36:02tends to change the the content and the
- 00:36:04skill competencies within jobs it tends
- 00:36:06not to wipe jobs out uh and what tends
- 00:36:09to happen is that the more manial and
- 00:36:12basic tasks tend to get automated away
- 00:36:15um so that there's greater need then
- 00:36:17within jobs there's more focus on higher
- 00:36:19level competencies and particularly
- 00:36:22communication skills and transversal
- 00:36:24skills then become much more uh
- 00:36:26important in that cont
- 00:36:28contexts and that was certainly
- 00:36:29something um that was emphasized To Us
- 00:36:33by the employers when we spoke to um
- 00:36:36this is not a One-Shot finally this is
- 00:36:38not a oneshot uh operation we just don't
- 00:36:41run this once and walk away what we've
- 00:36:43tried to do here is to develop a
- 00:36:45methodology that for instance can't sit
- 00:36:47in the department the analysis can be
- 00:36:49rerun on a on an annual basis so the the
- 00:36:54change in nature of a demand
- 00:36:56particularly for a emerging Technologies
- 00:36:59can be continually monitored both in
- 00:37:01terms of the levels of jobs that are
- 00:37:03being
- 00:37:05um advertised but also the competencies
- 00:37:08and the skills that are being requested
- 00:37:10uh within within them so it's it's more
- 00:37:12of uh the we feel that our contribution
- 00:37:15here is goes beyond saying okay we're
- 00:37:17okay in terms of the number of courses
- 00:37:19um of or the number of degrees going out
- 00:37:23in these areas over the next five year
- 00:37:25period it's more about developing this
- 00:37:27and taking it away uh and developing it
- 00:37:30as a tool that hopefully sits within the
- 00:37:31Departments as a monitoring framework
- 00:37:34and also as a forite framework that will
- 00:37:36help ensure that both provision in key
- 00:37:40areas remains consistent um and meets
- 00:37:43demand both in terms of the level of of
- 00:37:47graduates the number of graduates get
- 00:37:48into the labor market um and also um the
- 00:37:51competencies that are required it also
- 00:37:53helps you distinguish between the
- 00:37:54competencies that are required for new
- 00:37:56graduants from the with respect to those
- 00:37:58with more experience um so distinguishes
- 00:38:01between the so that would happen for
- 00:38:03them in terms of curriculum development
- 00:38:04and distinguish between the needs and
- 00:38:06the competencies for new graduates as
- 00:38:08opposed to those that would be better
- 00:38:10placed within lifelong learning programs
- 00:38:12or micro
- 00:38:14credentials so yeah that's
- 00:38:18that's all I have to say on the research
- 00:38:21so I'll stop sharing now or maybe David
- 00:38:22you can stop
- 00:38:25sharing thanks so much jamus yeah great
- 00:38:28those are those are the slides down uh
- 00:38:31now so listen thanks a lot for that uh
- 00:38:34really interesting
- 00:38:36presentation um colleagues we do have
- 00:38:39time for uh questions and for discussion
- 00:38:43so please do um raise your your hand as
- 00:38:47they say for those unfamiliar with zoom
- 00:38:50the hand can be found under the react uh
- 00:38:54button at the bottom of your screen um
- 00:38:58so maybe while while we wait for uh for
- 00:39:01questions to come through I might uh I
- 00:39:04might take my um chair's uh privilege to
- 00:39:08to to pose one myself um I suppose as
- 00:39:13you say Sheamus it's uh really good to
- 00:39:15see at a high level that I suppose the
- 00:39:18system is is is well um positioned in in
- 00:39:22this particular particular area I think
- 00:39:25it's it it is also really um interesting
- 00:39:28to see those kind of specific uh
- 00:39:31competences um being uh detailed so well
- 00:39:35the ones that are called called out by
- 00:39:38employers and I think that's kind of
- 00:39:40really helpful uh content for for
- 00:39:44colleagues around the call I suppose I'd
- 00:39:47be interested in your thoughts on we we
- 00:39:50hear about kind of the you know move to
- 00:39:53say a uh as they say it a skills first
- 00:39:58approach and if we take kind of
- 00:40:00artificial intelligence as an example
- 00:40:03like you say there's kind of the
- 00:40:05specialist roles for for AI but then
- 00:40:09there's the you know varying roles
- 00:40:12across varying or organizations and
- 00:40:16companies that require you know some H
- 00:40:20uh knowledge and familiarity with
- 00:40:23artificial in intelligence do you have
- 00:40:26any thought thought about you know
- 00:40:28that's maybe a bit harder to capture
- 00:40:31through our national skills
- 00:40:33in intelligence it kind of maybe
- 00:40:36requires us to move away from the
- 00:40:38occupation uh focus and and perhaps have
- 00:40:41a kind of
- 00:40:42wider um view of the relevant courses
- 00:40:46how how might that be incorporated into
- 00:40:50what we
- 00:40:52capture yeah thanks Nora um so those are
- 00:40:56important part Point um and as you said
- 00:40:59there's there's the issue here we're
- 00:41:00we're just capturing the number of jobs
- 00:41:02that are being advertised in these areas
- 00:41:04so Specialists automation Specialists
- 00:41:07and uh blockchain Specialists but that's
- 00:41:09a very different question in terms of uh
- 00:41:13how what are AI competencies what are
- 00:41:15the level of AI competencies that are
- 00:41:16being used in the Li Market and how are
- 00:41:18they been distributed across occupations
- 00:41:21so uh while this tool is useful it is
- 00:41:23not sufficient to to answer everything
- 00:41:26uh because there's a number of problem s
- 00:41:27with using job vacancy data that we've
- 00:41:30figuring out now at the moment first of
- 00:41:32all even if you know the technical
- 00:41:34competencies that are being required
- 00:41:35within these jobs you don't know how
- 00:41:37they're distributed uh so you know for
- 00:41:39example that control systems 34% of jobs
- 00:41:43um are asking that that that automation
- 00:41:47that that competency is required but we
- 00:41:48that doesn't mean to say that it
- 00:41:50accounts for 34% of all techical tasks
- 00:41:53that a person in automation does again
- 00:41:56when we look at the transversal skills
- 00:41:57and we look at the business skills we
- 00:42:00can see what employers are asking for
- 00:42:01those competencies but again we don't
- 00:42:03know how they're distributed within jobs
- 00:42:05how much time does uh people invol take
- 00:42:09undertaking each of those tasks and what
- 00:42:11is the relative sh of it and then as you
- 00:42:13say um we don't know then to what extent
- 00:42:17people are involved in terms of Noni
- 00:42:19Specialists or non automation
- 00:42:21Specialists or non-blockchain specialist
- 00:42:23Specialists doing tasks within their
- 00:42:26jobs that Rel to blockchain relate to
- 00:42:28artificial intelligence and relate to AI
- 00:42:31so in order to do really get a handle on
- 00:42:33that okay you look at what the employers
- 00:42:35are asking for but you need good data in
- 00:42:37terms of the competencies that are used
- 00:42:40within jobs currently and how and
- 00:42:43particularly around digital skills so
- 00:42:46and we don't have that I mean currently
- 00:42:48we do have some information on that we
- 00:42:50have uh the European skills and job
- 00:42:51survey the second wave that was that's a
- 00:42:53survey that was produced by cob looking
- 00:42:56at digital competencies across European
- 00:42:59countries and they ask very specific
- 00:43:00questions around all you know from very
- 00:43:02basic do you use do you use um Excel and
- 00:43:07Word right up to you know what type of
- 00:43:09computer programming do you do so we at
- 00:43:11the moment we're able to look at all
- 00:43:13those competencies at least for 2021 and
- 00:43:16and look at the distribution of those
- 00:43:17tasks both within the key occupations
- 00:43:20but also in terms of the ICT occupations
- 00:43:23and the engineering occupations but also
- 00:43:25throughout the labor market and we can
- 00:43:26compare how Ireland compares to other
- 00:43:29countries in terms of the the
- 00:43:30requirements for those digital
- 00:43:32competencies um but you need to be
- 00:43:35collecting that information regularly uh
- 00:43:38on an annual basis and we don't do that
- 00:43:40we have none of that data in Ireland at
- 00:43:42the moment so um the points that you
- 00:43:44raise are important and they're key for
- 00:43:47for informing policy but we do not have
- 00:43:49the infrastructure here at the moment to
- 00:43:51deliver that information uh to policy
- 00:43:54makers and that's a big problem
- 00:43:57thanks so much for that H Sheamus yeah
- 00:43:59that's that's certainly kind of an
- 00:44:01ongoing conversation and I know for
- 00:44:04example the national skills Council
- 00:44:06newly reformed are kind of looking at
- 00:44:10how uh intelligence is is is um is uh
- 00:44:14collected across the system and I'm sure
- 00:44:16that's that's part of their uh
- 00:44:19conversation too um we have a hand up um
- 00:44:23and I might ask you to introduce
- 00:44:25yourself uh and then pose your question
- 00:44:28thanks yeah so my name is J Connor and
- 00:44:30I'm in uh in University of gway I'm part
- 00:44:34of the adult ed activity there but also
- 00:44:36part of physics uh so I'm very
- 00:44:38interested in
- 00:44:39manufacturing um so these Technologies
- 00:44:42of Automation and certainly AI are very
- 00:44:44relevant for manufacturing and
- 00:44:45interesting to see that um I suppose
- 00:44:47maybe my question is this you know that
- 00:44:50most Technologies follow an S curve so
- 00:44:53they're slow to take off at the start
- 00:44:56then they accelerate through the rapid
- 00:44:58adoption and then they saturate the
- 00:45:00decline and we move on to a different
- 00:45:02technology and I suppose my question is
- 00:45:04are we in danger here of
- 00:45:07underestimating the growth of these
- 00:45:10Technologies like Ai and blockchain and
- 00:45:13in a sense the more advanced
- 00:45:15automation uh by just looking at today's
- 00:45:18data and seeing how it progresses um
- 00:45:21that's a great question Jord and that's
- 00:45:22exactly why we do this so if we look at
- 00:45:25today's data we see the picture as it is
- 00:45:27today you know so this this this was the
- 00:45:30data that was that was these were the
- 00:45:32adverts and the jobs that employers were
- 00:45:34at and the people and the numbers that
- 00:45:36were required uh for 2021 2022 um but
- 00:45:40the the the value with this approach as
- 00:45:43opposed to using the historical labor
- 00:45:44force data that's always a year and a
- 00:45:46half behind is that if we feel that
- 00:45:49things have changed even in a six month
- 00:45:51period we can go straight in uh and we
- 00:45:54can see actually has there been a jump
- 00:45:56in the number of AI jobs blockchain jobs
- 00:45:59automation jobs we can see exactly where
- 00:46:02the where the occupations are that those
- 00:46:05increasing jobs are um and we can then
- 00:46:09update both the demand estimates for now
- 00:46:11and the forecasts going into the future
- 00:46:13we can update the competency information
- 00:46:15that's been required so in a sense yeah
- 00:46:18there is
- 00:46:19a this approach actually is is is
- 00:46:22dynamic in it we use contemporaneous
- 00:46:25information on the basis of we we
- 00:46:26recognize that things can change very
- 00:46:28very radically but it is also approach
- 00:46:30that is highly replicable uh and can be
- 00:46:33updated at any point in order to if
- 00:46:35there's an uptake in employment or an
- 00:46:37uptake in jobs that can be spotted
- 00:46:38straight away where you're not waiting
- 00:46:4018 months for a historical uh uh data to
- 00:46:44come out from the CSO so we feel that
- 00:46:47that that is a a key value in using this
- 00:46:49type of data approach the a but what I
- 00:46:51will say is uh with the S curve again we
- 00:46:55were commissioned by the European
- 00:46:56commission this is going back in 2020
- 00:46:59because the perception was that
- 00:47:00blockchain for example was just going to
- 00:47:02be you know there was going to be um a
- 00:47:05massive growth in terms of blockchain uh
- 00:47:08requirements going forward and what we
- 00:47:10found actually was yeah there was a
- 00:47:11little bit of a surge in 2021 and and
- 00:47:14this is not just for then our forecast
- 00:47:16using this technology we were able to
- 00:47:17pick up the fact that those jobs have
- 00:47:19actually had like the demand for those
- 00:47:21jobs had actually fallen off um in 2022
- 00:47:24and 2023 were were able to pinpoint um
- 00:47:27the occupations where they demand had
- 00:47:28fallen off and we were also able to see
- 00:47:30that actually this happened across most
- 00:47:33countries in the EU uh in the EU but we
- 00:47:35looked at the exception where the demand
- 00:47:36kept on Rising so we were able to spot
- 00:47:39that um very very quickly so the the
- 00:47:43fact that these Technologies are so fast
- 00:47:45moving is why we need forecasting or
- 00:47:48labor market intelligence tools that
- 00:47:50uses Dynamic and current information so
- 00:47:52they can pick those those changes up
- 00:47:55okay thank you very much I just leave
- 00:47:57one other comment I guess these emerging
- 00:47:59Technologies are very significant
- 00:48:01leverage factors you know a good
- 00:48:03automation a good AI specialist in an
- 00:48:05Enterprise will leverage several other
- 00:48:08job growth so it's really important what
- 00:48:10you're doing and I so just want to State
- 00:48:13point and thank you very much I we
- 00:48:14recognize J exactly that we we need to
- 00:48:17be making sure that we're at least we're
- 00:48:19meeting the demands for of employers and
- 00:48:21More in these areas we you know we can
- 00:48:23so it is back in the envelope
- 00:48:25calculations it to some extent but at
- 00:48:27least it is a calculation based on the
- 00:48:29our assessments reasonable assessments
- 00:48:31that are based on what we see in the
- 00:48:32data that we feel that the numbers are
- 00:48:34at least you know sufficient to meet the
- 00:48:36requirements for new graduates but as I
- 00:48:38said the problem actually when you look
- 00:48:40at how skill shortages evolve it's
- 00:48:42usually at the um at the at the at the
- 00:48:45system at the at the two years plus
- 00:48:47experience level within organizations
- 00:48:49you know the more that that is really
- 00:48:51where the the pinch points uh really
- 00:48:53come in terms of of development okay
- 00:48:56thank you very much okay cheers sir
- 00:48:58thanks very much for that um we I think
- 00:49:01we have time for one more uh question
- 00:49:03and Susie if you could introduce
- 00:49:05yourself please hi yeah I'm Susie Jarvis
- 00:49:09from University College Dublin really
- 00:49:11enjoyed the talk and the uh the
- 00:49:14methodology is really fascinating the
- 00:49:17question I had is um obviously there's a
- 00:49:19lot of other data on LinkedIn um where
- 00:49:23individuals talk about the skills they
- 00:49:25have um so I wondered if LinkedIn would
- 00:49:28let you scrape that data so that we
- 00:49:31could actually get some evidence about
- 00:49:33higher education closing skills gaps so
- 00:49:36you would have the job information and
- 00:49:39you would have what skills individuals
- 00:49:41are claiming to have and it would be
- 00:49:42very powerful information I think for
- 00:49:44the higher education sector going
- 00:49:46forward I agree sus and we have you know
- 00:49:50we recognize that there is data in
- 00:49:51LinkedIn that isn't in the lightcast
- 00:49:53data for example that's why we we use
- 00:49:55LinkedIn to measure skill shortages
- 00:49:57because we we can see exactly how how
- 00:49:59long the adverts are there for and how
- 00:50:02many applications they were they're
- 00:50:04getting there are strengths and
- 00:50:05weaknesses across both data sets um so
- 00:50:08the strengths in the like the LinkedIn
- 00:50:11data and we did have good cooperation
- 00:50:13with the people from LinkedIn in this
- 00:50:14study is that they did provide more um
- 00:50:17there's there's more information
- 00:50:18captured within LinkedIn the problem is
- 00:50:20in that that um actually the big problem
- 00:50:23from our perspective is is that the jobs
- 00:50:25in LinkedIn aren't linked to the
- 00:50:27occupational framework um so when we did
- 00:50:30our our blockchain work we did that
- 00:50:32using LinkedIn data but we then we had
- 00:50:34to figure out where the jobs then sat
- 00:50:36within the occupational framework so
- 00:50:38then we could feed it into the
- 00:50:39forecasting methodology and that was
- 00:50:42while we could do that for one
- 00:50:43technology for Block it was very very
- 00:50:45time consuming so I feel that LinkedIn
- 00:50:48if LinkedIn can get its act together and
- 00:50:50start and start matching the jobs to
- 00:50:53where they sit within the occupational
- 00:50:55system it's going to be of a lot more
- 00:50:56more use for researchers and people
- 00:50:58interested in how um jobs are evolving
- 00:51:00over time but that that's the main
- 00:51:03weakness of it at the moment but as you
- 00:51:05said it does have a lot of very very
- 00:51:07useful information and they were very
- 00:51:08Cooperative with us and we do use a lot
- 00:51:10of their data so so when you look at the
- 00:51:12report we do exploit a lot of their data
- 00:51:14within
- 00:51:15that great thank you thanks so much for
- 00:51:18that um we we could squeeze in one uh
- 00:51:22one final quick question if um anyone
- 00:51:24wants to put up their hands um in the
- 00:51:27meantime I'll just remind uh colleagues
- 00:51:30that we will be sharing the recording of
- 00:51:32today's webinar H Sheamus's slide and
- 00:51:36also again the the link to the full uh
- 00:51:40report which which has um lots of the
- 00:51:43detailed
- 00:51:44information um if there are no more
- 00:51:47hands going up that's pretty good timing
- 00:51:50for lunch time thanks everyone for
- 00:51:54joining us um many many thanks again uh
- 00:51:57to
- 00:51:59Sham Dr Sheamus mcginness from the
- 00:52:02esri for presenting your uh research
- 00:52:07today fantastic to to disseminate this
- 00:52:11uh more so across the universities and I
- 00:52:13would absolutely encourage colleagues to
- 00:52:16forward on to um interested uh
- 00:52:19colleagues who will be interested in
- 00:52:20seeing this um so thanks again and take
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