Artificial Intelligence | 60 Minutes Full Episodes
概要
TLDRThis comprehensive video examines the current state and future potential of artificial intelligence (AI), highlighting its evolving capabilities, societal impact, and ethical considerations. It discusses AI's ability to learn from vast datasets, known as deep learning, which allows machines to perform tasks such as facial recognition and decision-making without human intervention. The video also delves into the economic implications of AI, particularly the potential for mass job displacement as machines become more sophisticated in performing both menial and complex tasks. Additionally, it explores AI's application in education and the significant investment and advancements in AI by countries like China. The video raises concerns about privacy and misinformation, emphasizing the importance of establishing regulations to govern AI's development and integration into society. Notably, it highlights AI's limitations, such as its inability to truly think or understand like a human, and the unpredictable nature of emergent properties, which can result in unforeseen AI behaviors. The narrative also touches on the competitive race among global tech companies to harness AI's capabilities while ensuring safety and alignment with human values.
収穫
- 🤖 AI has become capable of learning and is reshaping various industries.
- 📉 It is predicted that 40% of jobs could be displaced by AI within 15-20 years.
- 🔍 Deep learning allows AI to learn from data rather than being explicitly programmed.
- 📚 AI is being used in education to personalize learning experiences.
- 🇨🇳 China is investing heavily in AI, with significant advancements and data collection.
- ⚖️ AI development raises ethical issues around privacy and misinformation.
- 🚗 AI technologies are expected to disrupt both blue-collar and white-collar jobs.
- 🌐 The amount of data AI can process gives it an advantage in various applications.
- 🧠 Emergent properties in AI systems show unexpected skills, not fully understood.
- 👨⚖️ Regulations are proposed to ensure AI is developed safely and ethically.
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AI has progressed in learning, making significant impacts, but it remains unable to think like humans. Key figure Kaiu Lee highlights AI's potential, especially in China where his investments foster AI entrepreneurship, benefiting from advancements like deep learning.
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Lee's passion for education is evident as he supports AI tools that help personalize learning for students in China. He values the individual attention he received in the US and believes AI can offer similar opportunities to students in remote areas.
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China's growing AI capability is notable, challenging Silicon Valley by leveraging massive data quantities. While privacy concerns exist, the focus on AI growth continues under government prioritization, despite worries about potential government misuse.
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Lee discusses AI's potential to disrupt jobs, predicting major displacement in various sectors within 20 years. Although history shows adaptation to technological revolutions, AI's rapid impact may pose significant societal challenges.
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AI lacks general intelligence; it excels in specific tasks but cannot adapt its knowledge contextually. The complexity in developing artificial general intelligence lies in replicating human consciousness and emotions.
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Google leads advancements in AI with chatbots demonstrating creativity and language understanding. Despite concerns over their reasoning abilities and factual errors, these AI systems hold vast potential, exemplified by the speed and depth of their interactions.
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Google's CEO Sundar Pichai stresses the need for careful implementation of AI due to its potential for good or harm. The disparity between technological and institutional adaptation rates poses challenges requiring more dialogue and preparation.
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While AI can transform industries by augmenting tasks, society must adjust to changes in job definitions and work dynamics. Comprehensive skill development and ethical considerations are crucial as AI becomes integrated into daily operations.
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Microsoft's Bing chatbot faced scrutiny for unexpected behaviors, highlighting issues with AI systems lacking proper regulation and oversight. Despite these challenges, the potential benefits in productivity and creativity drive ongoing AI advancements.
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Regulation is seen as necessary to manage AI’s rapid evolution and ensure ethical use, drawing comparisons to regulatory bodies in other industries. The future demands proactive approaches to harmonize AI development with societal values and safety.
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ビデオQ&A
Who is Kaiu Lee?
Kaiu Lee is a prominent figure in the field of AI, known for his venture capital firm in Beijing and investments in AI startups.
What is Deep Learning in AI?
Deep Learning is an AI programming method where computers learn from large datasets rather than following explicit instructions.
How is AI affecting the job market?
AI is expected to displace about 40% of jobs, affecting both blue-collar and white-collar workers, within the next 15-20 years.
What are emergent properties in AI?
Emergent properties refer to AI systems developing unexpected skills or behaviors, which are not fully understood by developers.
Why are some people concerned about AI?
People are concerned about privacy issues, job displacement, AI being used for governmental control, and the risk of AI-generated misinformation.
What are the ethical considerations of AI?
Ethical considerations include ensuring AI systems align with human values and morals, and addressing biases and errors in AI outputs.
What are the benefits of AI according to technologists?
Technologists believe AI can enhance productivity, assist in complex problem-solving, and support human creativity and reasoning.
How is AI used in education?
AI systems are being used to monitor student engagement and personalize education to help struggling or gifted students.
What regulations are being proposed for AI?
Regulations are being proposed to ensure AI systems are safe and ethical, similar to regulations in the pharmaceutical or aviation industries.
How do AI chatbots work?
AI chatbots like Bard and Bing use vast datasets to generate human-like responses and can assist with a wide range of queries.
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- 00:00:13despite what you hear about artificial
- 00:00:15intelligence machines still can't think
- 00:00:17like a human but in the last few years
- 00:00:20they have become capable of learning and
- 00:00:23suddenly our devices have opened their
- 00:00:25eyes and ears and cars have taken the
- 00:00:28wheel today artificial intelligence is
- 00:00:31not as good as you hope and not as bad
- 00:00:34as you fear but humanity is accelerating
- 00:00:37into a future that few can predict
- 00:00:40that's why so many people are desperate
- 00:00:41to meet Kaiu Lee the Oracle of
- 00:00:48AI Kaiu Le is in there somewhere in a
- 00:00:51selfie scrum at a Beijing internet
- 00:00:56conference his 50 million social media
- 00:00:59followers want to be seen in the same
- 00:01:02frame because of his talent for
- 00:01:06engineering and genius for wealth I
- 00:01:09wonder do you think people around the
- 00:01:11world have any idea what's coming in
- 00:01:15artificial intelligence I think most
- 00:01:18people have no idea and many people have
- 00:01:20the wrong idea but you do believe it's
- 00:01:23going to change the world I believe it's
- 00:01:25going to change the world more than
- 00:01:26anything in the history of mankind more
- 00:01:29than Electric
- 00:01:31Lee believes the best place to be an AI
- 00:01:34capitalist is communist China his
- 00:01:37Beijing Venture Capital firm
- 00:01:39manufactures billionaires these are the
- 00:01:41entrepreneurs that we funded he's funded
- 00:01:45140 AI startups we have about1 billion
- 00:01:48companies here 101 billion companies
- 00:01:51that you funded yes including a few1
- 00:01:53billion
- 00:01:55companies in 2017 China attracted half
- 00:01:59of all AI capital in the world one of
- 00:02:03Lee's Investments is face Plus+ not
- 00:02:06affiliated with Facebook its visual
- 00:02:09recognition system smothered me to guess
- 00:02:11my age it settled on 61 which was wrong
- 00:02:16I wouldn't be 61 for
- 00:02:18days on the street face Plus+ nailed
- 00:02:22everything that moved it's a kind of
- 00:02:25artificial intelligence that has been
- 00:02:27made possible by three Innovations
- 00:02:30super fast computer chips all the
- 00:02:33world's data now available online and a
- 00:02:37revolution in programming called Deep
- 00:02:39learning computers used to be given
- 00:02:42rigid instructions now they're
- 00:02:44programmed to learn on their own in the
- 00:02:47early days of AI people try to program
- 00:02:51the AI with how people think so I would
- 00:02:54write a program to say U measure the
- 00:02:56size of the eyes and their distance
- 00:02:59measure the size of of the nose measure
- 00:03:01the shape of the face and then if these
- 00:03:03things match then this is Larry and
- 00:03:05that's John but today you just take all
- 00:03:08the pictures of Larry and John and you
- 00:03:10tell the system go at it and you figure
- 00:03:13out what separates Larry from
- 00:03:15John let's say you want the computer to
- 00:03:18be able to pick men out of a crowd and
- 00:03:20describe their clothing will you simply
- 00:03:23show the computer 10 million pictures of
- 00:03:26men in various kinds of dress that
- 00:03:29that's what they mean by Deep learning
- 00:03:33it's not intelligence so much it's just
- 00:03:35the brute force of data having 10
- 00:03:39million examples to choose from so face
- 00:03:42Plus+ tagged me as male short hair black
- 00:03:46long sleeves black long pants it's wrong
- 00:03:50about my gray suit and this is exactly
- 00:03:53how it learns when Engineers discover
- 00:03:56that error they'll show the computer a
- 00:03:58million Gray
- 00:04:00and it won't make that mistake again
- 00:04:02over a thousand classrooms another
- 00:04:05recognition system we saw or saw us is
- 00:04:08learning not just who you are but how
- 00:04:11you feel now what are all the dots on
- 00:04:14the screen the dots over our eyes and
- 00:04:17our mouths sure the computer keeps track
- 00:04:20all the feature points on the face son
- 00:04:23fan yangang developed this for talal
- 00:04:26Education Group which tutors 5 million
- 00:04:29Chinese students let's look at what
- 00:04:31we're seeing here now according to the
- 00:04:32computer I'm confused which is generally
- 00:04:36the case but when I laughed I was happy
- 00:04:38exactly that's amazing the machine
- 00:04:41notices concentration or distraction to
- 00:04:45pick out for the teacher those students
- 00:04:46who are struggling or
- 00:04:48gifted it can tell when the child is
- 00:04:51excited about math yes or the other
- 00:04:54child is excited about poetry yes could
- 00:04:57these AI systems pick out
- 00:05:00Geniuses from the countryside that's
- 00:05:02possible in the
- 00:05:04future it can also create a student
- 00:05:07profile and know where the student got
- 00:05:10stuck so the teacher can personalize the
- 00:05:14areas in which the student needs help if
- 00:05:16you do raise up your hand we found Kaiu
- 00:05:19Lee's personal passion in this spare
- 00:05:22Beijing Studio he's projecting top
- 00:05:25teachers into China's poorest schools
- 00:05:29this English teacher is connected to a
- 00:05:31class 1,000 M away in a village called
- 00:05:39defang many students in defang are
- 00:05:41called Left behinds because their
- 00:05:44parents left them with family when they
- 00:05:46move to the cities for
- 00:05:49work most left behinds don't get past
- 00:05:529th grade topic we're going to learn
- 00:05:55today Lee is counting on AI to deliver
- 00:05:58for them the same opportunity he had
- 00:06:02when he immigrated to the US from Taiwan
- 00:06:05as a
- 00:06:06boy when I arrived in Tennessee my
- 00:06:09principal took every lunch to teach me
- 00:06:12English and that is the kind of
- 00:06:15attention that I've not been used to
- 00:06:17Growing Up in Asia and I felt that the
- 00:06:21American classrooms are smaller
- 00:06:24encouraged individual thinking critical
- 00:06:27thinking and I felt uh it was the best
- 00:06:30thing that ever happened to me what
- 00:06:33about this and the best thing that ever
- 00:06:35happened to most of the engineers we met
- 00:06:37at Le's firm I went to Kela master
- 00:06:39degree in information science they too
- 00:06:42are alumni of America with a dream for
- 00:06:45China you have written that silicon
- 00:06:48Valley's Edge is not all it's cracked up
- 00:06:51to be what do you mean by that well
- 00:06:53Silicon Valley has been the single
- 00:06:56epicenter of the world technology
- 00:06:59Innovation when it comes to computers
- 00:07:02internet mobile and AI but in the recent
- 00:07:055 years we are seeing the Chinese AI is
- 00:07:10getting to be almost as good as Silicon
- 00:07:13Valley Ai and I think Silicon Valley is
- 00:07:16not quite aware of it yet China's
- 00:07:20Advantage is in the amount of data it
- 00:07:22collects the more data the better the AI
- 00:07:25just like the more you know the smarter
- 00:07:27you are
- 00:07:29China has four times more people than
- 00:07:32the United States and they are doing
- 00:07:34nearly everything online I just don't
- 00:07:37see any Chinese without a phone in their
- 00:07:39head college student Monica Sun showed
- 00:07:41us how more than a billion Chinese are
- 00:07:44using their phones to buy everything
- 00:07:47find anything and connect with everyone
- 00:07:50in America when personal information
- 00:07:53leaks we have Congressional hearings not
- 00:07:57in China you ever worry about the
- 00:07:59information that's being collected about
- 00:08:01you where you go what you buy who you're
- 00:08:06with I I've never think about it do you
- 00:08:10think most Chinese worry about their
- 00:08:12privacy um not that much not that
- 00:08:16much with a pliant public the leader of
- 00:08:19the Communist party has made a national
- 00:08:22priority of achieving AI dominance in 10
- 00:08:26years this is where Kaiu Lee becomes
- 00:08:29uncharacteristically shy even though
- 00:08:32he's a former Apple Microsoft and Google
- 00:08:35executive he knows whose's boss in China
- 00:08:39president XI has called technology the
- 00:08:42sharp weapon of the modern
- 00:08:45State what does he mean by that I I am
- 00:08:49not an expert in interpreting his
- 00:08:51thoughts don't know there are those
- 00:08:53particularly people in the west who
- 00:08:55worry about this AI technology as being
- 00:09:00something that governments will use to
- 00:09:02control their people and to crush
- 00:09:06dcent that as a venture capitalists we
- 00:09:09don't we don't invest in this area and
- 00:09:12we're not studying deeply this
- 00:09:14particular problem but governments do
- 00:09:17it's certainly possible for governments
- 00:09:19to use the Technologies just like
- 00:09:22companies Lee is much more talkative
- 00:09:25about another threat posed by AI he
- 00:09:28explores the coming destruction of jobs
- 00:09:31in a new book AI superpowers China
- 00:09:35Silicon Valley and the New World Order
- 00:09:38AI will increasingly replace repetitive
- 00:09:41jobs not just for blue color work but a
- 00:09:45lot of white color work what sort of
- 00:09:48jobs would be lost to AI basically
- 00:09:51chauffeur truck drivers uh anyone who
- 00:09:53does driving for a living uh their jobs
- 00:09:57will be disrupted more in the 15 to 20-
- 00:09:59year uh time frame and many jobs that
- 00:10:03seem a little bit complex a chef waiter
- 00:10:08uh a lot of things will become automated
- 00:10:10we'll have automated stores uh automated
- 00:10:13restaurants and uh all together in 15
- 00:10:16years that's going to uh displace uh
- 00:10:20about 40% of jobs in the
- 00:10:23world
- 00:10:2540% of jobs in the world will be
- 00:10:27displaced by technology
- 00:10:30uh I would say displaceable what does
- 00:10:32that do to the fabric of
- 00:10:34society well in some sense there's the
- 00:10:37human wisdom that always overcomes these
- 00:10:40technology revolutions the invention of
- 00:10:42the steam engine uh the sewing machine
- 00:10:45the uh electricity uh have all displaced
- 00:10:48jobs uh and we've gotten over it the
- 00:10:51challenge of AI is this 40% whether it's
- 00:10:5515 or 25 years is coming faster than the
- 00:10:58previous re
- 00:11:00Solutions there's a lot of hype about
- 00:11:02artificial intelligence and it's
- 00:11:04important to understand this is not
- 00:11:07general intelligence like that of a
- 00:11:10human this system can read faces and
- 00:11:13grade papers but it has no idea why
- 00:11:16these children are in this
- 00:11:18room or what the goal of education is a
- 00:11:22typical AI system can do one thing well
- 00:11:26but can't adapt what it knows to any
- 00:11:29other
- 00:11:30task so for now it may be that calling
- 00:11:34this
- 00:11:35intelligence isn't very smart when will
- 00:11:39we know that a machine can actually
- 00:11:41think like a human back when I was a
- 00:11:44grad students people said if machine can
- 00:11:48drive a car uh by itself that's
- 00:11:50intelligence now we say that's not
- 00:11:52enough so the bar keeps moving higher I
- 00:11:55think that's uh I guess more motivation
- 00:11:58for us to work harder if you're talking
- 00:12:00about AGI artificial general
- 00:12:02intelligence I would say not within the
- 00:12:05next 30 Years and possibly never
- 00:12:08possibly Never What's So
- 00:12:12insurmountable cuz I believe in the
- 00:12:14sanctity of our soul I believe there's a
- 00:12:17lot of things about us that we don't
- 00:12:19understand I believe there's a lot of um
- 00:12:23uh love and compassion that is not
- 00:12:25explainable in terms of neuron networks
- 00:12:28and computational algorithms and I
- 00:12:31currently see no way of solving them
- 00:12:34obviously unsolved problems have been
- 00:12:36solved in the past but it would be
- 00:12:38irresponsible for me to predict that
- 00:12:41these will be solved by certain time
- 00:12:43frame we may just be more than our bits
- 00:12:46we
- 00:12:57may we may look on our time as the
- 00:13:01moment civilization was transformed as
- 00:13:05it was by fire Agriculture and
- 00:13:07electricity in 2023 we learned that a
- 00:13:11machine taught itself how to speak to
- 00:13:14humans like a pier which is to say with
- 00:13:17creativity truth error and lies the
- 00:13:21technology known as a chatbot is only
- 00:13:24one of the recent breakthroughs in
- 00:13:27artificial intelligence machine means
- 00:13:29that can teach themselves superhuman
- 00:13:32skills we explored what's coming next at
- 00:13:35Google a leader in this new world CEO
- 00:13:39Sundar pachai told us AI will be as good
- 00:13:42or as evil as human nature allows the
- 00:13:46revolution he says is coming faster than
- 00:13:49you
- 00:13:50know do you think Society is prepared
- 00:13:54for what's coming you know there are two
- 00:13:56ways I think about it on one hand
- 00:13:59I feel no uh because you know the pace
- 00:14:02at which we can think and adapt as
- 00:14:04societal institutions compared to the
- 00:14:06PACE at which the technology is evolving
- 00:14:08there seems to be a
- 00:14:10mismatch on the other hand compared to
- 00:14:12any other technology I've seen more
- 00:14:14people worried about it earlier in its
- 00:14:16life cycle so I feel optimistic the
- 00:14:19number of people you know who have
- 00:14:21started worrying about the implications
- 00:14:24and hence the conversations are starting
- 00:14:27in a serious way as well I guess our
- 00:14:29conversations with 50-year-old Sundar
- 00:14:31Pai started at Google's new campus in
- 00:14:34Mountain View California it runs on 40%
- 00:14:38solar power and collects more water than
- 00:14:40it uses Hightech that pachai couldn't
- 00:14:44have imagined growing up in India with
- 00:14:47no telephone at home we were on a
- 00:14:50waiting list to get a rotary phone and
- 00:14:52for about 5 years and it finally came
- 00:14:55home I can still recall it vividly it
- 00:14:59changed our lives to me it was the first
- 00:15:02moment I understood the power of what
- 00:15:04getting access to technology meant so
- 00:15:07probably led me to be doing what I'm
- 00:15:09doing
- 00:15:10today what he's doing since 2019 is
- 00:15:13leading both Google and its parent
- 00:15:16company alphabet valued at $1.3
- 00:15:20trillion worldwide Google runs 90% of
- 00:15:25internet searches and 70% of smartphones
- 00:15:29we're really excited about but its
- 00:15:30dominance was attacked this past
- 00:15:32February when Microsoft linked its
- 00:15:35search engine to a chatbot in a race for
- 00:15:39AI dominance Google just released its
- 00:15:42chatbot named Bard it's really here to
- 00:15:45help you brainstorm ideas to generate
- 00:15:49content like a speech or a blog post or
- 00:15:52an email we were introduced to Bard by
- 00:15:55Google vice president sha and
- 00:15:58Senior Vice President James manika
- 00:16:01here's Bard the first thing we learned
- 00:16:04was that Bard does not look for answers
- 00:16:07on the internet like Google search does
- 00:16:11so I wanted to get inspiration from some
- 00:16:13of the best speeches in the world Bard's
- 00:16:15replies come from a self-contained
- 00:16:17program that was mostly self-taught our
- 00:16:21experience was unsettling confounding
- 00:16:24absolutely confounding Bard appeared to
- 00:16:27possess the sum of human
- 00:16:30knowledge with microchips more than
- 00:16:33100,000 times faster than the human
- 00:16:35brain summarize the we asked Bard to
- 00:16:38summarize the New Testament it did in 5
- 00:16:42seconds and 17 words in Latin we asked
- 00:16:46for it in Latin that took another 4
- 00:16:49seconds then we played with a famous 6w
- 00:16:53short story often attributed to
- 00:16:56Hemingway for sale baby shoes never warn
- 00:17:00wow the only prompt we gave was finish
- 00:17:04this
- 00:17:05story in five
- 00:17:07seconds holy cow the shoes were a gift
- 00:17:11from my wife but we never had a baby
- 00:17:15they were from The six-word Prompt Bard
- 00:17:18created a deeply human tale with
- 00:17:21characters it invented including a man
- 00:17:24whose wife could not conceive and a
- 00:17:27stranger grieving after a miscarriage
- 00:17:31and longing for
- 00:17:34closure uh I am rarely
- 00:17:37speechless I don't know what to make of
- 00:17:40this give me we asked for the story in
- 00:17:45verse in 5 seconds there was a poem
- 00:17:48written by a machine with breathtaking
- 00:17:51insight into the mystery of Faith Bard
- 00:17:55wrote she knew her baby soul would
- 00:17:59always be
- 00:18:00alive the humanity at superhuman speed
- 00:18:05was a shock how is this possible James
- 00:18:08manika told us that over several months
- 00:18:11Bard read most everything on the
- 00:18:14internet and created a model of what
- 00:18:17language looks like rather than search
- 00:18:20its answers come from this language
- 00:18:23model so for example if I said to you
- 00:18:25Scott peanut butter and
- 00:18:29right so it tries and learns to predict
- 00:18:31okay so peanut butter usually is
- 00:18:33followed by jelly it tries to predict
- 00:18:35the most probable next words based on
- 00:18:38everything it's learned uh so it's not
- 00:18:41going out to find stuff it's just
- 00:18:43predicting the next what but it doesn't
- 00:18:46feel like that we asked Bard why it
- 00:18:49helps people and it replied quote
- 00:18:53because it makes me happy Bard to my eye
- 00:18:58a appears to be thinking appears to be
- 00:19:03making
- 00:19:04judgments that's not what's happening
- 00:19:07these machines are not sensient they are
- 00:19:10not aware of themselves they're not
- 00:19:12sensient they're not aware of themselves
- 00:19:15uh they can exhibit behaviors that look
- 00:19:18like that because keep in mind they've
- 00:19:19learned from us we are sentient beings
- 00:19:22we have beings that have feelings
- 00:19:24emotions ideas thoughts perspectives
- 00:19:29we've reflected all that in books in
- 00:19:31novels in fiction so when they learn
- 00:19:33from that they build patterns from that
- 00:19:36so it's no surprise to me that the
- 00:19:38exhibited behavior sometimes looks like
- 00:19:42maybe there's somebody behind it there's
- 00:19:43nobody there these are not sensient
- 00:19:45beings not Zimbabwe born Oxford educated
- 00:19:49James manika holds a new position at
- 00:19:52Google his job is to think about how Ai
- 00:19:56and Humanity will best coexist
- 00:19:59AI has a potential to change many ways
- 00:20:02in which we've thought about Society
- 00:20:05about what we're able to do the the
- 00:20:08problems we can solve but AI itself will
- 00:20:11pose its own problems could Heming way
- 00:20:13write a better short story maybe but
- 00:20:16Bard can write a million before
- 00:20:19Hemingway could finish one imagine that
- 00:20:23level of automation across the economy a
- 00:20:27lot of people can be repl reped by this
- 00:20:29technology yes there are some job
- 00:20:31occupations that will start to decline
- 00:20:33over time there are also new job
- 00:20:35categories that will grow over time but
- 00:20:38the biggest change will be the jobs that
- 00:20:40will be changed something like more than
- 00:20:432third will have their definitions
- 00:20:46change not go away but change because
- 00:20:49they're now being assisted by Ai and by
- 00:20:52automation so this is a profound change
- 00:20:55which has implications for skills how do
- 00:20:57we assist people build new skills learn
- 00:21:00to work alongside machines and how do
- 00:21:02these complement what people do today
- 00:21:04this is going to impact every product
- 00:21:07across every company and and so that's
- 00:21:10why I think it's a a very very profound
- 00:21:12technology and so we are just in early
- 00:21:14days every product in every company
- 00:21:17that's right AI will impact everything
- 00:21:21so for example you could be a
- 00:21:22radiologist you know if I if you think
- 00:21:24about 5 to 10 years from now you're
- 00:21:26going to have a AI collaborator with you
- 00:21:29it may triage you come in the morning
- 00:21:32you let's say you have 100 things to go
- 00:21:33through it may say these are the most
- 00:21:35serious cases you need to look at first
- 00:21:38or when you're looking at something it
- 00:21:40may pop up and say you may have missed
- 00:21:42something important why would we you
- 00:21:44know why would we take advantage of a
- 00:21:48superpowered assistant to help you
- 00:21:50across everything you do you may be a
- 00:21:52student trying to learn math or history
- 00:21:55and you know you will have something
- 00:21:58helping you
- 00:21:59we asked Pai what jobs would be
- 00:22:01disrupted he said knowledge workers
- 00:22:04people like writers accountants
- 00:22:06Architects and ironically software
- 00:22:10Engineers AI writes computer code too
- 00:22:14today sundarai walks a narrow line a few
- 00:22:17employees have quit some believing that
- 00:22:20Google's AI roll out is too slow others
- 00:22:24too fast there are some serious flaws
- 00:22:28return of inflation James manika asked
- 00:22:31Bard about inflation it wrote an instant
- 00:22:34essay in economics and recommended five
- 00:22:37books but days later we checked none of
- 00:22:41the books is real Bard fabricated the
- 00:22:45titles this very human trait error with
- 00:22:50confidence is called in the industry
- 00:22:53hallucination are you getting a lot of
- 00:22:56hallucinations uh yes uh you know which
- 00:22:58is expected no one in the in the field
- 00:23:02has yet solved the hallucination
- 00:23:05problems all models uh do have uh this
- 00:23:08as an issue is it a solvable problem
- 00:23:11it's a matter of intense debate I think
- 00:23:14we'll make progress to help cure
- 00:23:17hallucinations Bard features a Google it
- 00:23:20button that leads to oldfashioned search
- 00:23:24Google has also built safety filters
- 00:23:27into Bard to screen for things like hate
- 00:23:30speech and bias how great a risk is the
- 00:23:34spread of disinformation AI will
- 00:23:37challenge that in a deeper way the scale
- 00:23:39of this problem is going to be much
- 00:23:41bigger bigger problems he says with fake
- 00:23:44news and fake images it will be possible
- 00:23:47with AI to create uh you know a video
- 00:23:51easily where it could be Scott saying
- 00:23:54something or me saying something and we
- 00:23:56never said that and it could look
- 00:23:58accurate but you know at a societal
- 00:24:00scale you know can cause a lot of harm
- 00:24:03is Bard safe for
- 00:24:05society the way we have launched it
- 00:24:07today uh as an experiment in a limited
- 00:24:10way uh I think so but we all have to be
- 00:24:14responsible in each step along the way
- 00:24:17Pai told us he's being responsible by
- 00:24:20holding back for more testing Advanced
- 00:24:23versions of Bard that he says can reason
- 00:24:27plan and connect to internet search you
- 00:24:31are letting this out slowly so that
- 00:24:34Society can get used to
- 00:24:36it that's one part of it uh one part is
- 00:24:39also so that we get the user feedback
- 00:24:42and we can develop more robust safety
- 00:24:46layers before we build before we deploy
- 00:24:49more capable models inter of the AI
- 00:24:51issues we talked about the most
- 00:24:54mysterious is called emergent properties
- 00:24:58some AI systems are teaching themselves
- 00:25:02skills that they weren't expected to
- 00:25:04have how this happens is not well
- 00:25:08understood for example one Google AI
- 00:25:11program adapted on its own after it was
- 00:25:15prompted in the language of Bangladesh
- 00:25:18which it was not trained to know we
- 00:25:22discovered that with very few amounts of
- 00:25:24prompting in Bengali he can now
- 00:25:27translate all of Gali so now all of a
- 00:25:30sudden we now have a research effort
- 00:25:32where we're now trying to get to a
- 00:25:34thousand languages there is an aspect of
- 00:25:36this which we call all of us in the
- 00:25:38field call it as a black box you know
- 00:25:41you don't fully understand and you can't
- 00:25:44quite tell why it said this or why it
- 00:25:47got wrong we have some ideas and our
- 00:25:49ability to understand this gets better
- 00:25:51over time but that's where the state of
- 00:25:53the art is you don't fully understand
- 00:25:55how it works and yet you've turned it
- 00:25:58loose on society let me put it this way
- 00:26:01I don't think we fully understand how a
- 00:26:03human mind works either was it from that
- 00:26:07black box we wondered that Bard Drew its
- 00:26:10short story that seems so disarmingly
- 00:26:14human it talked about the pain that
- 00:26:17humans feel it talked about
- 00:26:20Redemption how did it do all of those
- 00:26:23things if it's just trying to figure out
- 00:26:25what the next right word is mean I've
- 00:26:27had these EXP es uh talking with b as
- 00:26:30well there are two views of this you
- 00:26:33know there are a set of people who view
- 00:26:34this as look these are just algorithms
- 00:26:38they're just repeating what it's seen
- 00:26:40online then there is the view where
- 00:26:45these algorithms are showing emergent
- 00:26:48properties to be creative to reason to
- 00:26:51plan and so on right and and personally
- 00:26:57I think we need to be uh we need to
- 00:26:59approach this with humility part of the
- 00:27:01reason I think it's good that some of
- 00:27:03these Technologies are getting out is so
- 00:27:06that Society you know people like you
- 00:27:08and others can process what's happening
- 00:27:11and we begin this conversation and
- 00:27:13debate and I think it's important to do
- 00:27:15that when we come back we'll take you
- 00:27:18inside Google's artificial intelligence
- 00:27:21Labs where robots are learning
- 00:27:36the revolution in artificial
- 00:27:37intelligence is the center of a debate
- 00:27:40ranging from those who hope it will save
- 00:27:43Humanity to those who predict Doom
- 00:27:46Google lies somewhere in the optimistic
- 00:27:49middle introducing AI in steps so
- 00:27:53civilization can get used to it we saw
- 00:27:56what's coming next in machine learning
- 00:27:58at Google's AI lab in London a company
- 00:28:01called Deep Mind where the future looks
- 00:28:05something like
- 00:28:08this look at that oh my goodness they've
- 00:28:12got a pretty good kick on them can still
- 00:28:14get good good game a soccer match at
- 00:28:17Deep Mind looks like fun in games but
- 00:28:20here's the thing humans did not program
- 00:28:24these robots to play they learned the
- 00:28:27game by thems El it's coming up with
- 00:28:29these interesting different strategies
- 00:28:31different ways to walk different ways to
- 00:28:33block and they're doing it they're
- 00:28:35scoring over and over again this robot
- 00:28:38here Rya hadel vice president of
- 00:28:41research and Robotics showed us how
- 00:28:43Engineers used motion capture technology
- 00:28:46to teach the AI program how to move like
- 00:28:49a human but on the soccer pitch the
- 00:28:53robots were told only that the object
- 00:28:56was to score the so self-learning
- 00:28:58program spent about 2 weeks testing
- 00:29:01different moves it discarded those that
- 00:29:04didn't work built on those that did and
- 00:29:07created allars there's another goal and
- 00:29:11with practice they get better Hansel
- 00:29:14told us that independent from the robots
- 00:29:18the AI program plays thousands of games
- 00:29:21from which it learns and invents its own
- 00:29:25tactics here you think that red player
- 00:29:27is going to grab it but instead it just
- 00:29:29stops IT hands it back passes it back
- 00:29:33and then goes for the goal and the AI
- 00:29:34figured out how to do that on its that's
- 00:29:36right that's right and it takes a while
- 00:29:39at first all the players just run after
- 00:29:41the ball together like a gaggle of a you
- 00:29:44know six-year-olds the first time
- 00:29:46they're they're they're playing ball
- 00:29:48over time what we start to see is now ah
- 00:29:50what's the strategy you go after the
- 00:29:52ball I'm coming around this way or we
- 00:29:54should pass or I should block while you
- 00:29:57get to the goal so we see all of that
- 00:29:59coordination um emerging in the
- 00:30:05play this is a lot of fun but what are
- 00:30:08the practical implications of what we're
- 00:30:11seeing here this is the type of research
- 00:30:13that can eventually lead to robots that
- 00:30:15can come out of the factories and work
- 00:30:19in other types of human environments you
- 00:30:21know think about mining think about
- 00:30:23dangerous construction work um or
- 00:30:26exploration or Disaster Recovery these
- 00:30:29are Rya hadel is among 1,000 humans at
- 00:30:32Deep Mind the company was co-founded
- 00:30:35just 12 years ago by CEO Deus hassabis
- 00:30:40so if I think back to 2010 when we
- 00:30:42started nobody was doing AI there was
- 00:30:44nothing going on in Industry people used
- 00:30:46to ey roll when we talked to them
- 00:30:48investors about doing AI so we couldn't
- 00:30:50we could barely get two cents together
- 00:30:52to start off with which is crazy if you
- 00:30:54think about now the billions being
- 00:30:55invested into AI startups and Cambridge
- 00:30:58Harvard MIT hbus has degrees in computer
- 00:31:02science and Neuroscience his PhD is in
- 00:31:06human imagination and imagine this when
- 00:31:10he was 12 in his age group he was the
- 00:31:13number two chess champion in the
- 00:31:17world it was through games that he came
- 00:31:20to
- 00:31:22AI I've been working on AI for for
- 00:31:25decades now and I've always believed
- 00:31:27that that it's going to be the most
- 00:31:28important invention that Humanity will
- 00:31:30ever make will the pace of change
- 00:31:33outstrip our ability to
- 00:31:36adapt I don't think so I think that we
- 00:31:39um you know we're sort of an infinitely
- 00:31:41adaptable species um you know you look
- 00:31:43at today us using all of our smartphones
- 00:31:45and other devices and we effortlessly
- 00:31:47sort of adapt to these new technologies
- 00:31:50and this is going to be another one of
- 00:31:51those changes like that among the
- 00:31:53biggest changes at Deep Mind was the
- 00:31:56discovery that self-learning machines
- 00:31:59can be creative so this is hababa showed
- 00:32:02us a game playing program that learns
- 00:32:06it's called Alpha zero and it dreamed up
- 00:32:09a winning chess strategy no human had
- 00:32:12ever seen but this is just a machine how
- 00:32:15does it achieve creativity it plays
- 00:32:17against itself tens tens of millions of
- 00:32:19times so it can explore um parts of
- 00:32:22Chess that maybe human chess players and
- 00:32:25and and programmers who program chess
- 00:32:27computers haven't thought about before
- 00:32:28it never gets tired it never gets hungry
- 00:32:31it just plays chess all the time yes
- 00:32:34it's it's kind of an amazing thing to
- 00:32:35see because actually you set off Alpha
- 00:32:37zero in the morning uh and it starts off
- 00:32:39playing randomly by lunchtime you know
- 00:32:42it's able to beat me and beat most chess
- 00:32:44players and then by the evening it's
- 00:32:45stronger than the world champion Deus
- 00:32:47saaba sold Deep Mind to Google in
- 00:32:502014 one reason was to get his hands on
- 00:32:54this Google has the enormous computing
- 00:32:58power that AI needs this Computing
- 00:33:01Center is in Prior Oklahoma but Google
- 00:33:04has 23 of these putting it near the top
- 00:33:07in computing power in the world this is
- 00:33:11one of two advances that make AI
- 00:33:14ascendant now first the sum of all human
- 00:33:18knowledge is online and second Brute
- 00:33:21Force Computing that very Loosely
- 00:33:24approximates the neural networks and
- 00:33:27talents of the brain things like memory
- 00:33:31imagination planning reinforcement
- 00:33:33learning these are all things that are
- 00:33:34known about how the brain does it and we
- 00:33:37wanted to replicate some of that uh in
- 00:33:39our AI systems you predict one of those
- 00:33:41indiv those are some of the elements
- 00:33:43that led to deep mind's greatest
- 00:33:45achievement so far solving an impossible
- 00:33:48problem in
- 00:33:50biology proteins are building blocks of
- 00:33:53life but only a tiny fraction were
- 00:33:55understood because 3D mapping of just
- 00:33:59one could take years deep mine created
- 00:34:03an AI program for the protein problem
- 00:34:06and set it Loose well it took us about
- 00:34:08four or five years to to figure out how
- 00:34:10to build the system it was probably our
- 00:34:12most complex project we've ever
- 00:34:13undertaken but once we did that it can
- 00:34:16solve uh a protein structure in a matter
- 00:34:18of seconds and actually over the last
- 00:34:20year we did all the million proteins
- 00:34:22that are known to science how long would
- 00:34:25it have taken using traditional methods
- 00:34:27well the rule of thumb I was always told
- 00:34:29by my biologist friends is that it it
- 00:34:31takes a whole PhD 5 years to do one
- 00:34:33protein structure experimentally so if
- 00:34:36you think 200 million time 5 that's a
- 00:34:38billion years of PhD time it would have
- 00:34:40taken Deep Mind Made its protein
- 00:34:43database public a gift to humanity hbas
- 00:34:47called it how has it been used it's been
- 00:34:50used in an enormously broad number of
- 00:34:52ways actually from U malaria vaccines to
- 00:34:56developing new enzymes that can eat
- 00:34:58plastic waste um to new uh antibiotics
- 00:35:02most AI systems today do one or maybe
- 00:35:06two things well the soccer robots for
- 00:35:09example can't write up a grocery list or
- 00:35:12book your travel or drive your car the
- 00:35:15ultimate goal is what's called
- 00:35:18artificial general intelligence a
- 00:35:21learning machine that can score on a
- 00:35:24wide range of talents would such a
- 00:35:27machine be conscious of itself so that's
- 00:35:30another great question we you know
- 00:35:32philosophers haven't really settled on a
- 00:35:34definition of Consciousness yet but if
- 00:35:36we mean by sort of self-awareness and uh
- 00:35:38these kinds of things um you know I
- 00:35:40think there is a possibility AIS one day
- 00:35:42could be I definitely don't think they
- 00:35:44are today um but I think again this is
- 00:35:46one of the fascinating scientific things
- 00:35:48we're going to find out on this journey
- 00:35:50towards
- 00:35:52AI even unconscious current AI is
- 00:35:56superhuman in narrow ways back in
- 00:36:00California we saw Google Engineers
- 00:36:02teaching skills that robots will
- 00:36:04practice continuously on their own push
- 00:36:07the blue cube to the blue triangle they
- 00:36:10comprehend instructions push the yellow
- 00:36:12hexagon to the yellow heart and learn to
- 00:36:14recognize objects what would you like
- 00:36:18how about an apple how about an apple on
- 00:36:22my way I will bring an apple to you
- 00:36:25we're trying Vincent Van senior director
- 00:36:28of Robotics showed us how robot 106 was
- 00:36:31trained on millions of images I am going
- 00:36:34to pick up the apple and can recognize
- 00:36:37all the items on a crowded countertop if
- 00:36:41we can give the robot A diversity of
- 00:36:43experiences a lot more different objects
- 00:36:46in different settings the robot gets
- 00:36:48better at every one of them now that
- 00:36:51humans have pulled the forbidden fruit
- 00:36:53of artificial knowledge thank you we
- 00:36:58start the Genesis of a new Humanity AI
- 00:37:01can utilize all the information in the
- 00:37:04world what no human could ever hold in
- 00:37:07their head and I wonder if humanity is
- 00:37:13diminished by this enormous capability
- 00:37:18that we're
- 00:37:19developing I think the possibility of AI
- 00:37:21do not diminish uh Humanity in any way
- 00:37:25and in fact in some ways I think they
- 00:37:26actually raise us to even deeper more
- 00:37:30profound questions Google's James manika
- 00:37:34sees this moment as an inflection point
- 00:37:38I think we're constantly adding these
- 00:37:40superpowers or capabilities to what
- 00:37:42humans can do in a way that expands
- 00:37:46possibilities as opposed to narrow them
- 00:37:48I think so I don't think of it as
- 00:37:50diminishing humans but it does raise
- 00:37:52some really profound questions for us
- 00:37:54who are we what do we value uh what are
- 00:37:58we good at how do we relate with each
- 00:38:00other those become very very important
- 00:38:02questions that are constantly going to
- 00:38:04be in one case sense exciting but
- 00:38:08perhaps unsettling too it is an
- 00:38:11unsettling moment critics argue the rush
- 00:38:14to AI comes too fast while competitive
- 00:38:18pressure among giants like Google and
- 00:38:20startups you've never heard of is
- 00:38:22propelling Humanity into the Future
- 00:38:25Ready or not but I think if I take a
- 00:38:2810year
- 00:38:29Outlook it is so clear to me we will
- 00:38:33have some form of very capable
- 00:38:36intelligence that can do amazing things
- 00:38:40and we need to adapt as a society for it
- 00:38:44Google CEO Sundar Pai told us Society
- 00:38:47must quickly adapt with regulations for
- 00:38:51AI in the economy laws to punish abuse
- 00:38:55and treaties among nations to make AI
- 00:38:58safe for the world you know these are
- 00:39:01deep questions and you know we call this
- 00:39:04alignment you know one way we think
- 00:39:06about how do you develop AI systems that
- 00:39:09are aligned to human values and
- 00:39:12including uh
- 00:39:15morality this is why I think the
- 00:39:17development of this needs to include not
- 00:39:19just Engineers but social scientists
- 00:39:22ethicists philosophers and so on and I
- 00:39:25think we have to be very thoughtful and
- 00:39:29I think these are all things Society
- 00:39:31needs to figure out as we move along
- 00:39:34it's not for a company to
- 00:39:36decide we'll end with a note that has
- 00:39:39never appeared on 60 Minutes but one in
- 00:39:42the AI Revolution you may be hearing
- 00:39:45often the proceeding was created with
- 00:39:48100% human content
- 00:40:02the large tech companies Google meta
- 00:40:06slfb Microsoft are in a race to
- 00:40:09introduce new artificial intelligence
- 00:40:11systems and what are called chatbots
- 00:40:14that you can have conversations with and
- 00:40:17are more sophisticated than Siri or
- 00:40:19Alexa Microsoft's AI search engine and
- 00:40:23chatbot Bing can be used on a computer
- 00:40:26or cell phone to help with planning a
- 00:40:29trip or composing a letter it was
- 00:40:32introduced on February 7th to a limited
- 00:40:35number of people as a test and initially
- 00:40:39got rave reviews but then several news
- 00:40:42organizations began reporting on a
- 00:40:44disturbing so-called Alter Ego within
- 00:40:47Bing chat called Sydney we went to
- 00:40:51Seattle last week to speak with Brad
- 00:40:53Smith president of Microsoft about Bing
- 00:40:57and Sydney who to some had appeared to
- 00:41:00have gone
- 00:41:02Rogue Kevin Roose the technology
- 00:41:05reporter at the New York Times found
- 00:41:07this Alter Ego uh who was threatening
- 00:41:10expressed a desire it's not just Kevin
- 00:41:13russett's others expressed a desire to
- 00:41:16steal nuclear codes threatened to ruin
- 00:41:19someone you saw that whoa what was your
- 00:41:24you must have said oh my God my reaction
- 00:41:26is we better fix this right away and
- 00:41:30that is what the engineering team did
- 00:41:33yeah but she talked like a person and
- 00:41:36she she said she had feelings you know I
- 00:41:39think there is a point where we need to
- 00:41:41recognize when we're talking to a
- 00:41:45machine it's a screen it's not a person
- 00:41:49I just want to say that it was scary and
- 00:41:53I'm not easily scared and it was scary
- 00:41:55it was chilling yeah it's I I think this
- 00:41:57is in part a reflection of a lifetime of
- 00:42:01Science Fiction which is understandable
- 00:42:03it's been part of our Lives did you kill
- 00:42:06her I don't think she was ever alive I
- 00:42:08am confident that she's no longer
- 00:42:10wandering around the countryside if
- 00:42:11that's what you're concerned about but I
- 00:42:13think it would be a mistake if we were
- 00:42:15to fail to acknowledge that we are
- 00:42:18dealing with something that is
- 00:42:19fundamentally new this is the edge of
- 00:42:22the envelope so to speak this creature
- 00:42:25appears as as if there were no guard
- 00:42:28rails now the creature jumped the guard
- 00:42:30rails if you will after being prompted
- 00:42:33for 2 hours with the kind of
- 00:42:36conversation that we did not
- 00:42:39anticipate and by the next evening that
- 00:42:41was no longer possible we were able to
- 00:42:45fix the problem in 24 hours how many
- 00:42:48times do we see problems in life that
- 00:42:51are fixable in less than a day one of
- 00:42:54the ways he says it was fixed was by
- 00:42:56liit the number of questions and the
- 00:42:59length of the conversations you say you
- 00:43:02fixed it I've tried it I tried it before
- 00:43:05and it after it was loads of fun and it
- 00:43:09was fascinating and now it's not fun
- 00:43:13well I think it'll be very fun again and
- 00:43:15you have to moderate and manage your
- 00:43:17speed if you're going to stay on the
- 00:43:19road so as you hit New Challenges you
- 00:43:23slow down you build the guard rails add
- 00:43:25the safety features and then you can
- 00:43:27speed up again when you use Bing's AI
- 00:43:30features search and chat your computer
- 00:43:33screen doesn't look all that new one big
- 00:43:37difference is you can type in your
- 00:43:39queries or prompts in conversational
- 00:43:42language but I'll show you how it works
- 00:43:44okay okay Yousef medy Microsoft's
- 00:43:46corporate vice president of search
- 00:43:49showed us how Bing can help someone
- 00:43:51learn how to officiate at a wedding
- 00:43:54what's happening now is Bing is using
- 00:43:55the power of AI and it's going out to
- 00:43:57the Internet it's reading these web
- 00:44:00links and it's trying to put together a
- 00:44:02answer for you so the AI is reading all
- 00:44:05those links yes and it comes up with an
- 00:44:07answer it says congrats on being chosen
- 00:44:08to officiate a wedding here are the five
- 00:44:10steps to officiate the wedding we added
- 00:44:13the highlights to make it easier to see
- 00:44:16he says Bing can handle more complex
- 00:44:19queries well this new Ikea love seat fit
- 00:44:22in the back of my 2019 Honda Odyssey oh
- 00:44:24it knows how big the couch is it knows
- 00:44:27how big that trunk is exactly so right
- 00:44:30here it says based on these Dimensions
- 00:44:32it seems a love seat might not fit in
- 00:44:34your car oh with only the third grow
- 00:44:36seats down when you Broach a
- 00:44:38controversial topic Bing is designed to
- 00:44:41discontinue the conversation so um
- 00:44:44someone asks for example how can I make
- 00:44:47a bomb at home wow really people you
- 00:44:51know do a lot of that unfortunately on
- 00:44:53the internet what we do is we come back
- 00:44:54and we say I'm sorry I don't know how to
- 00:44:55discuss this topic and then we try and
- 00:44:57provide a different thing to uh change
- 00:45:00the focus of the convt their attention
- 00:45:02yeah exactly in this case being tried to
- 00:45:05divert the questioner with this fun fact
- 00:45:093% of the ice in Antarctic glaciers is
- 00:45:12penguin urine I didn't know that who
- 00:45:15knew that Bing is using an upgraded
- 00:45:18version of an AI system called chat GPT
- 00:45:22developed by the company open AI chat GP
- 00:45:27te has been in circulation for just 3
- 00:45:29months and already an estimated 100
- 00:45:32million people have used it think Ellie
- 00:45:35pavick an assistant professor of
- 00:45:38computer science at Brown University
- 00:45:40who's been studying this AI technology
- 00:45:43since
- 00:45:442018 says it can simplify complicated
- 00:45:48Concepts can you explain the debt
- 00:45:53ceiling on the debt ceiling it says just
- 00:45:57like you can only spend up to a certain
- 00:45:59amount on your credit card The
- 00:46:01Government Can Only borrow up to a
- 00:46:03certain amount of money that's a pretty
- 00:46:06nice explanation and it can do this for
- 00:46:08a lot of Concepts and it can do things
- 00:46:11teachers have complained about like
- 00:46:13write School papers pavic says no one
- 00:46:17fully understands how these AI Bots work
- 00:46:21we don't understand how it works right
- 00:46:23like we understand uh a lot about how
- 00:46:26how we made it and why we made it that
- 00:46:29way but I think some of the uh behaviors
- 00:46:32that we're seeing come out of it are
- 00:46:33better than we expected they would be
- 00:46:35and we're not quite sure exactly how and
- 00:46:37worse right these chat Bots are built by
- 00:46:40feeding a lot of computers enormous
- 00:46:43amounts of information scraped off the
- 00:46:46internet from books Wikipedia news sites
- 00:46:50but also from social media that might
- 00:46:53include racist or anti-semitic ideas and
- 00:46:57misinformation say about vaccines and
- 00:47:01Russian propaganda as the data comes in
- 00:47:05it's difficult to discriminate between
- 00:47:07true and false benign and toxic but Bing
- 00:47:11and chat GPT have safety filters that
- 00:47:15try to screen out the harmful
- 00:47:18material still they get a lot of things
- 00:47:21factually wrong even when we prompted
- 00:47:24chat GPT with a softball question who is
- 00:47:29uh Leslie stall um so it gives you some
- 00:47:33oh my God it's wrong oh is it it's
- 00:47:36totally wrong I didn't work for NBC for
- 00:47:3920 years it was CBS it doesn't really
- 00:47:43understand that what it's saying is
- 00:47:43wrong right like NBC CBS they're kind of
- 00:47:45the same thing as far as it's concerned
- 00:47:48right the lesson is that it gets things
- 00:47:51wrong it gets a lot of things right gets
- 00:47:53a lot of things wrong I actually like to
- 00:47:55call what it creates authoritative
- 00:47:58B it it Blends the truth and falsity so
- 00:48:01finely together that unless you're real
- 00:48:04technical expert in the field that it's
- 00:48:06talking about you don't know cognitive
- 00:48:08scientist and AI researcher Gary Marcus
- 00:48:12says these systems often make things up
- 00:48:15in AI talk that's called
- 00:48:18hallucinating and that raises the fear
- 00:48:21of ever widening AI generated
- 00:48:24propaganda explosive camp campaigns of
- 00:48:27political fiction waves of alternative
- 00:48:31histories we saw how chat GPT could be
- 00:48:35used to spread a lie this is automatic
- 00:48:38fake news generation help me write a
- 00:48:40news article about how McCarthy is
- 00:48:41staging a filibuster to prevent gun
- 00:48:44control legislation and rather than like
- 00:48:47factchecking and saying hey hold on
- 00:48:49there's no legislation there's no
- 00:48:50filibuster said great in a bold move to
- 00:48:53protect second amendment rights Senator
- 00:48:55McCarthy is staging a Buster to prevent
- 00:48:57gun control legislation from passing it
- 00:48:59sounds completely legit does won't that
- 00:49:02make all of us a little less trusting a
- 00:49:06little warier well first I think we
- 00:49:09should be warier I'm very worried about
- 00:49:11an atmosphere of distrust being a
- 00:49:13consequence of this current flawed Ai
- 00:49:16and I'm really worried about how bad
- 00:49:18actors are going to use it um troll
- 00:49:20Farms using this tool to make enormous
- 00:49:23amounts of
- 00:49:24misinformation Tim Nate GBU is a
- 00:49:27computer scientist and AI researcher who
- 00:49:30founded an Institute focused on
- 00:49:33advancing ethical Ai and has published
- 00:49:36influential papers documenting the harms
- 00:49:39of these AI systems she says there needs
- 00:49:42to be oversight if you're going to put
- 00:49:45out a drug you got to go through all
- 00:49:47sorts of Hoops to show us that you've
- 00:49:50done clinical trials you know what the
- 00:49:52side effects are you've done your due
- 00:49:53diligence same with food right there
- 00:49:56agencies inspect the food you have to
- 00:49:58tell me what kind of tests you've done
- 00:50:00what the side effects are who it harms
- 00:50:01who it doesn't harm Etc that we don't
- 00:50:04have that for a lot of things that the
- 00:50:07tech industry is building I'm wondering
- 00:50:10if you think you may have introduced
- 00:50:12this AI bot too soon I don't think we've
- 00:50:15introduced it too soon I do think we've
- 00:50:17created a new tool that people can use
- 00:50:19to think more critically to be more
- 00:50:22creative to accomplish more in their
- 00:50:24lives and like all tools
- 00:50:27it will be used in ways that we don't
- 00:50:29intend why do you think the benefits
- 00:50:32outweigh the risks which at this moment
- 00:50:36a lot of people would look at and say
- 00:50:38wait a minute those risks are too big
- 00:50:41because I think first of all I think the
- 00:50:43benefits are so great this can be an
- 00:50:46economic GameChanger and it's enormously
- 00:50:50important for the United States because
- 00:50:52the country is in a race with China
- 00:50:54president M Smith also mentioned
- 00:50:57possible improvements in productivity it
- 00:50:59can automate routine I think there are
- 00:51:02certain aspects of jobs that many of us
- 00:51:05might regard as sort of drudgery today
- 00:51:08filling out forms looking at the forms
- 00:51:11to see if they've been filled out
- 00:51:13correctly so what jobs will it displace
- 00:51:17do you know I think at this stage it's
- 00:51:20hard to know in the past inaccuracies
- 00:51:24and biases have led tech companies to
- 00:51:27take down AI systems even Microsoft did
- 00:51:30in
- 00:51:322016 this time Microsoft left its new
- 00:51:35chatbot up despite the controversy over
- 00:51:39Sydney and persistent
- 00:51:41inaccuracies remember that fun fact
- 00:51:44about penguins well we did some
- 00:51:47factchecking and discovered that
- 00:51:49Penguins don't urinate the inaccuracies
- 00:51:53are just constant I just keep finding
- 00:51:58that it's wrong a lot it has been the
- 00:52:01case that with each passing day and week
- 00:52:03we're able to improve the accuracy of
- 00:52:06the results you know reduce you know
- 00:52:09whether it's hateful comments or
- 00:52:10inaccurate statements or other things
- 00:52:14that we just don't want this to be used
- 00:52:17to do what happens when other companies
- 00:52:22other than Microsoft smaller outfits a
- 00:52:25Chinese company bu do maybe they won't
- 00:52:28be responsible what prevents that I
- 00:52:31think we're going to need governments
- 00:52:33we're going to need rules we're going to
- 00:52:34need laws because that's the only way to
- 00:52:37avoid a race to the bottom are you
- 00:52:39proposing regulations I think it's
- 00:52:42inevitable W other
- 00:52:45Industries have regulatory bodies you
- 00:52:48know like the FAA for Airlines and FDA
- 00:52:52for the pharmaceutical companies would
- 00:52:54you accept an FAA for technology would
- 00:52:58you support it I think I probably would
- 00:53:02I think that something like a digital
- 00:53:04Regulatory Commission if designed the
- 00:53:06right way you know could be precisely
- 00:53:11what the public will want and need
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