Phantom Forces RESPONDED TO THE ALLEGATIONS and uh

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE6DUVooa0U

概要

TLDRIn the video, Strider criticizes Stylist Studios for their poor handling of serious allegations involving conduct with minors by certain staff members and contractors. He airs concerns about the studio's perceived negligence and inadequate responses to these allegations, asserting that they often act only when issues become public, rather than proactively addressing misconduct within their community. Strider highlights cases involving individuals like Juke and Willow, citing evidence of inappropriate behavior that was allegedly ignored or poorly managed by Stylist Studios. He faults the studio for initially dismissing evidence presented against these individuals and for failing to implement effective preventive measures. Strider expresses a sense of frustration with repeated patterns of misconduct and cover-ups, indicating that these behaviors reflect badly on the studio and call for a serious reevaluation of their policies and community management practices. The video further accuses the studio of covering up issues rather than addressing them transparently, urging the community to be aware and push for greater accountability. Despite acknowledging some minor errors in his presentation, Strider stands by his findings, emphasizing the need for a safer environment for the community, particularly for younger members.

収穫

  • ⚠️ Strider criticizes Stylist Studios for mishandling allegations of misconduct.
  • 🎥 He encourages others to make videos and raise awareness.
  • 🕵️‍♂️ Strider investigated and found numerous issues within the studio's community.
  • 🚫 Highlights inappropriate behavior and insufficient action by staff.
  • 🔍 Calls for transparency and accountability from Stylist Studios.
  • 🛡️ Urges protection of minors and better policy implementation.
  • 🤔 Points out patterns of neglect and cover-ups within the studio.
  • 🔄 Studios promised to review and improve their procedures.
  • 📢 Community upset, demanding better handling of allegations.
  • 👥 Discussed community involvement and communication issues.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker discusses receiving a response from Stylist Studios to a video they made, which they describe as disappointing. They invite others to create content or report on the matter and express dissatisfaction with Stylist's handling of specific situations involving inappropriate messages shared by minors and adults within the community. The speaker expresses the vastness of the issue and the need for a more comprehensive following due to additional information received.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Stylist Studios issued a response perceived as inadequate, failing to acknowledge serious allegations adequately. They seemingly ignored accusations of negligence concerning their community of children and inappropriate conduct tolerated within the Discord server. The responses from Stylist Studios are seen as dismissive, and the speaker questions their awareness of the environment fostered by their developers, highlighting potential oversight or indifference.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Further allegations against Stylist Studios involve inappropriate handling of offensive material linked to the game and its community. An individual known for predatory behavior was allowed within the community, causing concern about the developers' responsibility to prevent such actions. The speaker suspects a troubling pattern of overlooking serious offenses involving minors, questioning the studio's priorities and concern for community safety.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The speaker criticizes responses from Stylist Studios, pointing out the lack of accountability for past incidents involving inappropriate behavior. They detail incidents where known offenders were inadequately addressed and express frustration over the perceived negligence and lack of proactive measures to prevent harm. The speaker questions the sincerity of Stylist Studios’ claims of action and the adequacy of their responses to serious allegations.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    There is skepticism regarding Stylist Studios' actions and intentions, speculating about the rehiring practices and secrecy surrounding dismissals of problematic individuals. They illustrate inconsistencies in the studio’s handling of allegations and communicate unease about the transparency and integrity of their operational practices. The issue of minors’ safety in the community and questionable developer conduct persists.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:31:50

    The speaker reflects on the apparent dissonance between public acknowledgment and internal handling of serious issues within Stylist Studios. There's emphasis on the community's reaction to this perceived indifference and the necessity for a change in approach, underlining the importance of addressing and rectifying systemic issues of negligence and misconduct to restore community trust and safety.

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  • What did Stylist Studios do in response to the YouTube video?

    Stylist Studios quickly responded but was criticized for an inadequate response, leading to further discussion of internal issues.

  • Who is the YouTuber criticizing Stylist Studios?

    The YouTuber is Strider, who previously investigated and exposed allegations against Stylist Studios.

  • What are the main allegations against Stylist Studios?

    The allegations include misconduct by staff members involving minors, inadequate responses from the studio, and covering up these issues instead of addressing them publicly.

  • What specific case is brought up against the studio's staff?

    Cases involving inappropriate interactions with minors by staff and moderators, including Juke and Willow, are highlighted.

  • How did Stylist Studios handle the allegations initially?

    They were perceived to ignore early reports and acted only after significant public pressure and exposure.

  • What historical issues exist within the community as discussed in the video?

    The video highlights previous incidents involving inappropriate conduct by staff and inadequate actions taken to prevent it.

  • How did the community respond to the allegations?

    The community was largely upset, demanding accountability and transparency from Stylist Studios.

  • What changes did Stylist Studios promise to implement?

    The studio promised to review their policies and ensure better handling of misconduct, particularly around protecting minors.

  • What was Strider's intention in creating the video?

    Strider aimed to expose negligence and misconduct, urging transparency and more robust protections for young community members.

  • What stance does the YouTuber take towards Stylist Studios' actions?

    The YouTuber is critical of Stylist Studios, highlighting repeated patterns of neglect and cover-ups in response to serious allegations.

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    as many of you guys know and let me know
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    on Discord stylist Studios actually
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    responded to my video which is pretty
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    admirable that they did respond this
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    quickly however the response is uh not
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    the best before I respond to this
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    response let me just get a few things
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    out of the way first number one a lot of
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    people have been asking me if they can
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    make a video about this yes please make
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    a video about this if you have more to
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    add to this or if you just want to
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    report on it I I don't care both of
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    those are great you can use Clips are in
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    the video I'm not going to take down the
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    video as you guys could probably tell
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    from the video I I'm not too happy with
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    um what found when I investigated
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    stylist number two I've gotten probably
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    250 different DMS with even more stuff
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    so I probably will have to make a part
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    two I really hope somebody like Ruben
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    Sim makes a video about this because I'm
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    just one person that did an
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    investigation and this is so much stuff
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    to go through it's ridiculous number
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    three the cry person which was the first
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    stylus mod I actually looked at the
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    messages from I found a bunch of really
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    bad messages from him he actually dm'd
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    me on Discord he was 13 years old when
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    he sent those messages he was talking
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    with an 18-year-old about those topics
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    and yes that just makes stylist look
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    even worse the last thing before I start
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    going into this the C person who was
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    banned alongside Willow was actually one
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    of the people who was by Willow and they
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    banned this individual for quote being a
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    victim they banned both of them and they
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    put them together they put theer and the
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    victim in the same announcement and said
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    we're Banning these people for their
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    behavior of course a lot of people
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    thought that the Cali person was also a
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    groer when actually they were the one
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    being groom this Al led to probably one
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    of the worst mod messages I've seen on
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    PF and I've seen a lot in this Discord
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    there are a lot of bad ones people made
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    it a speech bubble gift on Discord uh
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    you can see it right now that's what he
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    said oh yeah let's just get into this
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    response and uh go through what they
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    said it says greetings everyone it has
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    been a colorful Journey this evening for
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    us as you all know Strider has posted a
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    video with some serious allegations
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    against our studio with a very
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    compelling narrative I honestly thought
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    the video turned out pretty bad but a
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    bunch of access messages got leaked they
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    started deleting everything and going
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    into damage control before I even posted
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    the video so I had to rush the video
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    completely out before you know they
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    started shutting down everything given
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    his status is a former Cc or content
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    creator and his past contributions to
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    our game we are happy to provide a
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    response for the community and address
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    his concerns on behalf of stylist I do
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    like how they said I had contributions
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    to the game if you guys didn't know I
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    basically used to look at all the
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    updates and then give them feedback and
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    stuff like that I also had DMS with
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    every contractor except for M I never
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    had any DMS with M which is is lucky and
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    we'll get into more Mar stuff in a bit
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    don't worry about that this part where
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    they say from a glance I don't what do
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    they mean bro did they watch the video
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    or did they glance at the video in the
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    content creator chat Leo who is one of
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    the main pfds was asking people for like
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    a summary of the video instead of just
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    watching the video which is great if you
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    make a game and people are calling out
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    your game to not even watch the video
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    calling them out anyway there are
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    multiple allegations pertaining to
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    members within our community to our
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    staff members and contractors and
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    leading up lastly to one of our lead
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    developers the video begins with a
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    twitch streamer named Bella the bat Pony
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    blah blah blah basically for this one
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    they say the admin failed to act and ban
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    that individual for a year and then they
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    said we are not involved with the
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    content creator team they are not
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    involved with Banning people so for this
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    one they are claiming negligence they
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    had no idea guys they made this Discord
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    for their Community for their kids game
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    but you know they don't really have to
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    look at it at all personally I've never
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    even heard of the individual until after
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    watching this video I think this was
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    made by Leo and if this is true that's
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    that's pretty bad that was a 19-year-old
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    talking to a 13-year-old the claim that
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    this oversight is indicative of
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    questionable behavior on the developers
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    is frankly unfounded I think the fact
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    that they don't know would also be
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    pretty questionable but this one in
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    particular wasn't supposed to indict the
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    Developers for anything this one was
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    just to make a timeline I actually had
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    one before this that I cut from the
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    video because it had even less to do
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    with the developers because this video
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    actually just started as a just scandals
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    of PF thing that was basically just to
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    talk about the scandals that have
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    happened with this game and the content
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    creators because basically nobody had
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    has made a video like that before I just
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    wanted to post that video Just to let
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    people know what had happened and just
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    give people information on why certain
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    people had left because of course the
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    devs hadn't given information to anybody
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    about what had happened to all those
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    content creators so it didn't start out
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    as a PF devs exposed video but then I
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    looked into it and I uh yeah I turned
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    into that because that's what I found
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    next the claim is that there were skins
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    pertaining to the content creator case
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    that were not removed for years despite
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    containing skins of known Predators this
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    is true similarly this issue did not
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    surface the developer attention right
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    away and there was a lack of internal
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    systems in place to rapidly replace
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    skins without any existing data
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    modification tooling that we have today
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    as such we have likely assigned a lower
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    priority to this issue while bugs and
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    exploits drew our constant
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    Focus that okay I think removing a skin
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    from a 19-year-old that talk to a
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    13-year-old is probably a good idea
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    especially if you're not going to tell
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    people why those individuals got banned
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    and they still have social media up so
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    people could go and find them especially
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    if they are under the age of 18 again
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    this claimed that our negligence to
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    remove these skins in a timely manner
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    constitutes developer support for
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    predatory behavior is baseless and Akin
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    to outright defamation I don't think I
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    said this in the video I'm pretty sure I
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    just said they didn't remove the skins
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    and if that looks bad for the developers
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    that's not my problem I just said what
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    they did which they just acknowledged
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    what they did and yeah it looks bad
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    because it's it's a bad look basically
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    they said bugs are more important than
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    removing the skins and yeah I thought it
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    was weird that they didn't remove the
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    Skins which is why I brought it up in
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    the video it's a thing they did a
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    similar situation happened today we
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    would be much better equipped to process
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    the removal due to framework
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    improvements we have made in the last
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    couple years next the topic of Juke is
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    brought up later known to be one of the
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    most serious offenders in both bad
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    business and Phantom Forces says
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    Community I don't know if he was one of
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    the most serious offenders in bad
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    business because they banned him from
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    Bad Business after the first thing he
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    did so I would probably just give it
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    over to Phantom Forces for this one
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    video primarily summarizes juke's
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    offenses in a roundabout manner however
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    it makes a false claim that after juk
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    was exposed and removed by Bad Business
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    Developers for sending inappropriate
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    messages to miners he quote quickly
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    became a phantom Force's content creator
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    afterwards because he was friends with
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    axis angle this entire response kind of
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    feels like it's chat GPT and this also
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    would be if they just read the
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    transcript of the video I had to rush
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    out this video and I did put something
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    on screen that said he was actually one
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    before I didn't know that he was already
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    a PF content creator but then during
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    editing I realized oh wait he already
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    was so I did put something on screen
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    I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
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    and say they just missed that but to
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    clarify juke's infractions were made
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    known to us by bad business's developers
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    while he was already an existing PF
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    content creator this is true but neither
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    team realized the extent of juke's
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    predatory behaviors right away yes but
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    Bad Business took the things he had
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    already done and realized that it was
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    already enough to ban if you go back to
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    the first Jack's video that was plenty
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    of stuff to get him removed from any
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    community in general much less a
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    children's game our initial
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    interpretation was that he was removed
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    for sending inappropriate messages ding
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    ding ding that is true and we assumed
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    that his disciplinary action had already
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    been handled within the bad business
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    Community he sent inappropriate messages
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    to kids on Roblox I think you can ban
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    him from every Community after that Juke
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    later confided to us of his disciplinary
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    action from Bad Business and wish to
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    start a new in Phantom Forces this part
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    was really interesting cuz I thought he
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    was already a content creator for
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    Phantom Forces which is true he was but
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    but then he basically became a full Bad
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    Business one and then he essentially
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    moved back to Phantom Forces after he
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    was kicked for talking to kids then they
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    say presumably Having learned his lesson
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    presumably Having learned his lesson he
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    essentially talked axis into keeping him
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    in the content creator program and
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    letting him play PF which turned out to
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    be pretty bad idea not going to lie
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    remember guys if you talk to kids only a
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    couple of times you probably will never
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    do it again as we were unaware of any
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    infractions he had committed in the
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    Phantom Forces Discord itself if you do
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    it in DMS if you do it in a different
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    Discord you're fine to talk to kids but
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    just don't do it in ours just kidding
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    you can do it in RS cuz I talked about
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    that in the video dude we were to keep
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    an eye on his behavior to see if his
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    removal from Bad Business was sufficient
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    or if we needed to take action on our
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    end therefore delaying actions to remove
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    him until further notice we now know
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    that it turned out to be well beyond the
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    scope after Jax's video revealed more
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    information than we were initially
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    provided once we realized the extent of
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    his actions axis angle made the decision
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    to remove him immediately with that I
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    firmly believe we have acted in best
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    faith to the knowledge provided to us at
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    the time Striders claimed that we were
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    harboring Juke knowingly while he was a
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    is therefore unwarranted axis angles in
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    his apology is going to be talking about
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    Juke a little bit but yeah the fact that
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    Juke confided the messages told the
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    Phantom Forces developers what Juke had
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    done yes they didn't know the full
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    extent but the full extent is is really
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    bad what they already had was plenty of
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    course what happened after is even wor
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    worse so yeah the fact that stylist kept
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    Juke on their content creator program
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    after the bad business developers
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    contacted them about it is very bad on
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    its own but the problem is literally
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    everything else stacked on top of it
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    right this one event on its own wasn't
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    enough for me to you know condemn the
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    developers when this happened I thought
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    it was really bad what they had done but
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    I didn't go out and make a video about
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    all of stylus because I didn't realize
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    how much of an issue this had been but
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    anyway next attention is brought to how
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    one of our former moderators for having
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    sent unsavory messages to miners dating
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    back in 2018 this user has left on his
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    own accord after these messages have
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    been exposed in a Google do as such we
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    are unable to pursue any further
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    disciplinary action against the
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    individual oh my gosh they did not they
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    did not read they did not watch the
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    video they did not watch the video
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    spirals had a very long conversation
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    with Leo about this guy in which Leo
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    essentially just did nothing the whole
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    time and now that this guy was getting a
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    lot of different uh me messages about
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    the whole situation because he was
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    talking to a minor in 2018 he left of
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    his own accord but Leto had plenty of
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    time to do something about it basically
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    spirals exposed Hal to Leo Leto said eh
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    I'm not doing anything about this and
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    then Hal left and now he's saying well
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    he left so I couldn't do anything about
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    it yes you could you could this is
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    probably my favorite part of this whole
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    thing the summary is rather brief but
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    the concern raised in the video is that
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    these messages still exist in the
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    records of the public channels the
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    resulting conclusion appears to be that
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    we need to clean up these channels so
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    that younger members cannot search for
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    or stumble onto these inappropriate
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    messages we agree with this and
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    therefore we instructed our staff to
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    purge the history of our eight plus
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    year-old public channels to ensure our
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    young members would not encounter these
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    messages which however contradicts with
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    strider's later talking points of cover
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    up basically they put words in my mouth
  • 00:10:49
    here this is not what I said and they
  • 00:10:50
    said that we totally agree with what you
  • 00:10:52
    didn't say we're actually not covering
  • 00:10:54
    up anything which I'll talk a lot more
  • 00:10:56
    about a cover up in my next video no I
  • 00:10:58
    did not say that the public channels
  • 00:11:00
    should be deleted in fact they were
  • 00:11:03
    deleted before I even made the video
  • 00:11:05
    because if you guys remember in my last
  • 00:11:07
    video I talked about the fact that
  • 00:11:08
    somebody leaked some of uh access angle
  • 00:11:11
    old messages that didn't look too good
  • 00:11:13
    for him so they deleted every single
  • 00:11:15
    Channel now they're saying we actually
  • 00:11:16
    instructed our staff to delete these
  • 00:11:18
    channels because of this video because
  • 00:11:20
    of this argument in this video that I
  • 00:11:21
    didn't make as an aside there was a
  • 00:11:23
    passing claim that our Discord lacked
  • 00:11:25
    age verification and failed to ban users
  • 00:11:27
    under 13 I love how they say this is a
  • 00:11:28
    passing claim like this is just
  • 00:11:30
    something that I mentioned for one
  • 00:11:31
    second well I guess it kind of was I
  • 00:11:33
    didn't mention it for that long but I
  • 00:11:34
    think it's more than a passing claim I
  • 00:11:36
    think it's a pretty big thing they say
  • 00:11:37
    they fail to ban users under 13 what I
  • 00:11:40
    got from the mod that I dm'd was not
  • 00:11:42
    that they fail to ban users under 13 is
  • 00:11:44
    that they don't even try thus leading to
  • 00:11:47
    opportunities for miners to be taken
  • 00:11:48
    advantage of we acknowledge that this is
  • 00:11:50
    an issue that deserves more attention
  • 00:11:52
    and we will review with the staff team
  • 00:11:53
    on what can be done to better protect
  • 00:11:55
    our community members they are now
  • 00:11:57
    acknowledging this is a problem but then
  • 00:11:59
    they completely pretend that this was my
  • 00:12:01
    claim this was not my passing claim this
  • 00:12:04
    was not my claim I DMD one of the admins
  • 00:12:07
    hey what do you guys do about people
  • 00:12:08
    under 13 and he said they don't even try
  • 00:12:10
    to ban them this part is also very funny
  • 00:12:12
    the video moves to former mmaker wolf
  • 00:12:15
    dogs summarizing the inappropriate
  • 00:12:17
    messages and photos he has sent to
  • 00:12:19
    miners early on we received numerous
  • 00:12:21
    reports with screenshots regarding these
  • 00:12:23
    inappropriate messages however we were
  • 00:12:25
    unable to immediately verify through
  • 00:12:27
    Discord whether the submitted
  • 00:12:28
    screenshots were legitimate or
  • 00:12:29
    fabricated we have also been informed
  • 00:12:31
    that there were many users who seek to
  • 00:12:33
    Witch Hunt this user so we had
  • 00:12:35
    conflicting information we decided we
  • 00:12:36
    needed more time before making any
  • 00:12:38
    conclusions regarding the reports later
  • 00:12:40
    on our admin team discovered further
  • 00:12:42
    evidence that these reports including
  • 00:12:44
    evidence of the elicit photos were
  • 00:12:46
    verified to be true we immediately
  • 00:12:47
    ceased ties with wolf dogs and reported
  • 00:12:49
    the issue directly to Discord let me
  • 00:12:51
    guess uh Discord didn't do anything we
  • 00:12:52
    decided that if legal action was
  • 00:12:54
    required with authorities Discord
  • 00:12:56
    themselves would be able to escalate the
  • 00:12:58
    case as necessary this is a community of
  • 00:13:01
    people they need to actually be informed
  • 00:13:03
    on what is going on with this we
  • 00:13:05
    consider the issue to be resolved and
  • 00:13:07
    did not make any public announcements to
  • 00:13:09
    avoid drawing attention from intrigued
  • 00:13:11
    community members who may seek out these
  • 00:13:13
    illicit photos themselves to spread
  • 00:13:14
    around for amusement so remember guys
  • 00:13:17
    this is the Predator we are talking
  • 00:13:19
    about we need to make sure that he
  • 00:13:21
    doesn't get embarrassed from people
  • 00:13:23
    spreading photos of him they didn't tell
  • 00:13:25
    people that this guy was talking to kids
  • 00:13:27
    because they wanted to protect his
  • 00:13:29
    photos are you kid dude do I even need
  • 00:13:31
    to explain why that's just Mar
  • 00:13:34
    inaccurately described as a fourth
  • 00:13:36
    developer I think I said he's number
  • 00:13:38
    four like the fourth most important
  • 00:13:40
    developer on the game and yes
  • 00:13:41
    technically he isn't a developer he was
  • 00:13:43
    a contractor but in terms of the
  • 00:13:45
    hierarchy and the people working at
  • 00:13:47
    stylist he was number four I don't think
  • 00:13:48
    you guys can argue that he wasn't number
  • 00:13:50
    four so they're saying I inaccurately
  • 00:13:52
    described him as a fourth developer I
  • 00:13:53
    think I said he was the fourth most
  • 00:13:55
    important and they're saying oh this is
  • 00:13:57
    not the definition of a developer I
  • 00:13:58
    meant is the fourth most important
  • 00:14:00
    person working on the game if he's not
  • 00:14:01
    technically a developer he's technically
  • 00:14:03
    a contractor I guess you can use that to
  • 00:14:05
    say this claim is completely false was
  • 00:14:07
    one of our former contractors hired to
  • 00:14:09
    manage content updates during a time
  • 00:14:10
    when the lead developers myself were
  • 00:14:12
    busy with college so he was doing a lot
  • 00:14:15
    of this stuff during that time the video
  • 00:14:16
    summarizes the strings of his
  • 00:14:17
    inappropriate messaging conduct uh
  • 00:14:20
    conduct sorry with Miners and the timing
  • 00:14:22
    of his announcements to quit suddenly
  • 00:14:24
    when we perceived reports of these our
  • 00:14:25
    initial perception was that it was the
  • 00:14:27
    start of another attempted WI hunt it's
  • 00:14:29
    funny that the two people that have been
  • 00:14:31
    uh quote unquote witch hunted uh
  • 00:14:33
    actually talked to miners due to Mar's
  • 00:14:34
    wavering reputation among certain
  • 00:14:36
    community members he was pretty hated
  • 00:14:38
    though he was pretty hated though I
  • 00:14:39
    remember a lot of people didn't like him
  • 00:14:40
    nonetheless we took the allegation
  • 00:14:42
    seriously and we asked him to step down
  • 00:14:44
    out of respect while we reviewed the
  • 00:14:46
    reports basically for Juke they left him
  • 00:14:47
    as a content creator and presumed he
  • 00:14:50
    learned his lesson the guy who actually
  • 00:14:52
    was confirmed to talk to kids he's
  • 00:14:54
    allowed to stay on but Mah who was very
  • 00:14:56
    hated and people could have
  • 00:14:57
    realistically faked these screenshots he
  • 00:14:59
    had to step down but Juke didn't which
  • 00:15:01
    is bad because the M thing happened
  • 00:15:03
    before Juke so for Mah they made him
  • 00:15:05
    step down and then for Juke they kept
  • 00:15:07
    him on it's like they got worse at it in
  • 00:15:09
    what world would you have him step down
  • 00:15:11
    if you didn't believe it was true but
  • 00:15:13
    then for the guy where it actually
  • 00:15:15
    happened you didn't it doesn't make any
  • 00:15:17
    sense as the evidence turned out to be
  • 00:15:19
    validated his voluntary resignation
  • 00:15:21
    transformed into a permanent dismissal
  • 00:15:23
    from our team are you sure about that
  • 00:15:25
    actually are you sure about that
  • 00:15:26
    actually however we determined his
  • 00:15:28
    overall fractions were not on the same
  • 00:15:30
    level as Juke and so this was deemed
  • 00:15:32
    sufficiently handled an additional
  • 00:15:34
    announcement for his further departure
  • 00:15:35
    seemed unnecessary remember guys this is
  • 00:15:38
    the number four guy goes Leo Axis
  • 00:15:43
    shin7 or whatever his name is and then
  • 00:15:45
    it went Mah Mah was number four you
  • 00:15:46
    can't argue on that he was the number
  • 00:15:48
    four guy in fact from their own
  • 00:15:50
    statements in this he was essentially
  • 00:15:51
    the number one guy on the game during
  • 00:15:53
    this but when he talks to miners in the
  • 00:15:56
    server where he is making a game which
  • 00:15:58
    also happens to be a kids game you don't
  • 00:16:00
    have to announce it you you guys don't
  • 00:16:01
    actually have to announce it it's
  • 00:16:02
    actually perfectly fine because yes his
  • 00:16:04
    Discord is still around his Twitter is
  • 00:16:06
    still around all of his stuff is still
  • 00:16:08
    there especially the not safe for work
  • 00:16:10
    accounts he has are still around and you
  • 00:16:12
    didn't tell anybody that he likes kids
  • 00:16:15
    in hindsight this was an unsatisfactory
  • 00:16:17
    response for the community and we
  • 00:16:18
    acknowledge that inadequacy in our
  • 00:16:20
    thought process okay on their own each
  • 00:16:22
    of these are very weird and I would be
  • 00:16:24
    like what what are these guys doing but
  • 00:16:26
    when you put together every single one
  • 00:16:28
    yeah it's a consistent Behavior with
  • 00:16:30
    these people Willow the next contractor
  • 00:16:31
    to replace m is later found with similar
  • 00:16:33
    reports of inappropriate messaging
  • 00:16:35
    Behavior with miners summary of how the
  • 00:16:37
    reports were handled is presented
  • 00:16:39
    leading up to a public firing of Willow
  • 00:16:41
    based on additional evidence that was
  • 00:16:42
    later discovered to unveil the true
  • 00:16:45
    severity of their infractions they were
  • 00:16:47
    pretty bad I saw some of the things
  • 00:16:50
    shrider concludes here that stylist has
  • 00:16:51
    learned their lesson in making a public
  • 00:16:53
    announcement this time compared to the
  • 00:16:55
    previous cases however Strider
  • 00:16:56
    immediately follows up to make a highly
  • 00:16:58
    accused and fabricated claim that sid9
  • 00:17:01
    is secretly Willow using an ALT account
  • 00:17:03
    for sid9 who I have spent countless
  • 00:17:04
    hours training to onboard into the PF
  • 00:17:06
    content pipeline systems on such short
  • 00:17:09
    notice this is outright insulting to the
  • 00:17:11
    team we chose sid9 a close mutual friend
  • 00:17:13
    among the leay developers with blah blah
  • 00:17:15
    blah blah of ill intentions and we hope
  • 00:17:16
    that the community would continue to
  • 00:17:18
    respect his dedication and keeping
  • 00:17:20
    Phantom Force's content ongoing I will
  • 00:17:22
    say that the willow thing is the only
  • 00:17:24
    thing I was like maybe it's not true
  • 00:17:26
    which why I said allegedly the fact that
  • 00:17:28
    between the days when axis said that
  • 00:17:31
    Willow was stepping down with the
  • 00:17:33
    ability to come back and permanently
  • 00:17:35
    stepping down the sid9 account was
  • 00:17:37
    created and said I'm going to be the
  • 00:17:38
    next contractor is super weird remember
  • 00:17:40
    they said that they were going to become
  • 00:17:42
    a contractor before the extra things
  • 00:17:43
    about Willow came out so this is sid9
  • 00:17:45
    being created on a day where Willow
  • 00:17:48
    could still come back to the game and
  • 00:17:50
    then immediately saying oh I want to be
  • 00:17:52
    a contractor someday is that not
  • 00:17:54
    suspicious also the person that told me
  • 00:17:56
    this is somebody who I hope will come
  • 00:17:58
    forward because I do trust that they
  • 00:18:00
    would know things like this they were a
  • 00:18:02
    person that had a lot of community
  • 00:18:04
    connections but unfortunately that
  • 00:18:05
    person has not come forward I really
  • 00:18:07
    hope they will you can see this is the
  • 00:18:09
    thing that proves that my video is bad
  • 00:18:12
    the only problem is let's go back up to
  • 00:18:14
    Mar okay we took the allegation
  • 00:18:15
    seriously and we asked him to step down
  • 00:18:17
    out of respect remember that was on
  • 00:18:19
    April Fool's Day 2021 however apparently
  • 00:18:22
    in October of 2021 had a conversation
  • 00:18:25
    with Shayan 007 which is the third main
  • 00:18:28
    develop as I said about the fact that
  • 00:18:30
    Mah could maybe be working on the game
  • 00:18:33
    still and after pushing Shay enough he
  • 00:18:35
    said he's in the process of onboarding
  • 00:18:38
    new developers so 6 months after they
  • 00:18:40
    had him stepped down he was still
  • 00:18:41
    working on the game this isn't Willow
  • 00:18:43
    we're talking about this is mar however
  • 00:18:45
    the willow thing happened after Mar so
  • 00:18:47
    if they let Mar stay around for that
  • 00:18:49
    long they're probably going to let
  • 00:18:51
    Willow stay a little bit after as well
  • 00:18:53
    and they both do not deserve to be
  • 00:18:55
    getting paid to work on a children's
  • 00:18:57
    game after they got fired after they
  • 00:18:59
    were exposed it can happen with one and
  • 00:19:01
    so it can probably happen with the other
  • 00:19:03
    and before I was about to start
  • 00:19:04
    recording this video I actually got
  • 00:19:06
    another Smoking Gun about this which is
  • 00:19:08
    that oh my gosh I cannot believe this
  • 00:19:10
    happened in 2022 I think February corny
  • 00:19:13
    uploaded a video about the shotguns
  • 00:19:14
    getting nerfed in Phantom Forces Corney
  • 00:19:16
    used to be a Phantom Forces YouTuber now
  • 00:19:18
    he just a Roblox YouTuber the reason
  • 00:19:20
    that he knew about this update was that
  • 00:19:22
    guess who dm'd him about it it was mar
  • 00:19:25
    mar sent me a nice little DM he said
  • 00:19:28
    just want to let you know if something
  • 00:19:29
    you might be interested in test place is
  • 00:19:30
    finally out after much delay or whatever
  • 00:19:32
    remember guys this is February 2022 10
  • 00:19:37
    months later so yeah well I can't prove
  • 00:19:39
    that Willow was still working on the
  • 00:19:40
    game I think M was still working on the
  • 00:19:42
    game because the devs actually said this
  • 00:19:44
    further in the video srider chooses out
  • 00:19:46
    of context clips of axis's stream to
  • 00:19:48
    imply that axis must be feeling some
  • 00:19:50
    sort of PR guilt with these unprompted
  • 00:19:52
    statements on stream going as far as to
  • 00:19:54
    make connections to juke's actions I
  • 00:19:56
    just said is he a Juke type individual
  • 00:19:59
    I don't know and then I put maybe on the
  • 00:20:01
    screen because of what happened after
  • 00:20:03
    this editing Choice comes across as
  • 00:20:05
    highly disingenuous and malicious and
  • 00:20:06
    openly threatening and I don't think
  • 00:20:08
    this is highly disingenuous or malicious
  • 00:20:10
    to say maybe we'll get into that we'll
  • 00:20:11
    get into that I can't believe this dude
  • 00:20:14
    I can't believe it yeah cuz we'll get
  • 00:20:16
    into this and finally Strider makes the
  • 00:20:17
    claim that stylist has chosen to cover
  • 00:20:19
    up all of its behaviors and private
  • 00:20:21
    chats particularly pretending to access
  • 00:20:23
    angles chat records back in 2016 which
  • 00:20:26
    they did as of a few days ago multiple
  • 00:20:28
    users have coincidentally reported these
  • 00:20:30
    messages to us and presented their
  • 00:20:31
    concerns to us regarding the hazards of
  • 00:20:33
    a top developer having made such
  • 00:20:36
    messages the blah blah blah they further
  • 00:20:38
    recommended that we take action
  • 00:20:39
    immediately to purge these messages so
  • 00:20:41
    that our younger community members would
  • 00:20:43
    not be able to chance upon them upon
  • 00:20:45
    review we agreed with this decision to
  • 00:20:46
    replace all of our public channels as
  • 00:20:49
    suggested by the user report Strider
  • 00:20:51
    however claims this is an act of
  • 00:20:52
    covering up evidence of wrongdoing which
  • 00:20:54
    we firmly refute with our motivation
  • 00:20:56
    stated here except that now you can't
  • 00:20:58
    see any of the bad messages any of the
  • 00:21:00
    mods and developers have made oh my gosh
  • 00:21:03
    it's such a coincidence that you can't
  • 00:21:04
    see any of them anymore what the freak
  • 00:21:06
    oh no there's even more access messages
  • 00:21:08
    like this one uh which was in 2018 which
  • 00:21:11
    is he was 22 but man if there were more
  • 00:21:14
    of them I mean dude it's so unlucky that
  • 00:21:17
    you guys can't find it anymore oh no as
  • 00:21:19
    for Access angle chat Behavior they were
  • 00:21:21
    Unbecoming for a lead developer involved
  • 00:21:23
    sensitive topics that do not abide by
  • 00:21:25
    our Discord guidelines today we would
  • 00:21:28
    however point out that the message it
  • 00:21:29
    was sent is dark
  • 00:21:31
    satire import during an age of
  • 00:21:33
    immaturity immaturity at the age of 20
  • 00:21:36
    years old once again these statements
  • 00:21:37
    are super weird and happened on multiple
  • 00:21:41
    different occasions same with the twitch
  • 00:21:42
    thing I saw the twitch Clips months and
  • 00:21:44
    months ago but I didn't immediately jump
  • 00:21:45
    and make a video because none of it had
  • 00:21:47
    clicked yet you know what I mean most of
  • 00:21:49
    the things from this video I learned in
  • 00:21:50
    the past couple of weeks just by
  • 00:21:52
    investigating and I do believe that
  • 00:21:53
    these messages could have been dark
  • 00:21:55
    satire like really really bad jokes it
  • 00:21:58
    was 16 you know he was 20 years old and
  • 00:22:00
    joking about that stuff still pretty
  • 00:22:02
    it's still really bad it's the fact that
  • 00:22:04
    these guys are essentially just
  • 00:22:05
    admitting to everything I talked about
  • 00:22:07
    in the video they refute two things
  • 00:22:09
    which is the willow thing and then they
  • 00:22:10
    come up with like a couple random things
  • 00:22:12
    that I said wrong in the video but
  • 00:22:14
    everything else they've said my bad my
  • 00:22:16
    bad we should have we should have maybe
  • 00:22:18
    probably maybe announced this and like I
  • 00:22:20
    said one of those things on its own is
  • 00:22:22
    still weird but it's not enough for me
  • 00:22:23
    to turn on this game make this video but
  • 00:22:26
    it's everything that I found and I found
  • 00:22:28
    so many things nonetheless our studio
  • 00:22:29
    will continue to evaluate if action is
  • 00:22:32
    needed against axis angle depending on
  • 00:22:34
    whether further reports of victims
  • 00:22:35
    involved due to his behavior will
  • 00:22:37
    surface to us oh my gosh I think these
  • 00:22:40
    people live in the same house with each
  • 00:22:42
    other by the way I think they do I I
  • 00:22:44
    can't remember them but guys they
  • 00:22:45
    wouldn't even know if axis angles has
  • 00:22:47
    done anything before please nobody come
  • 00:22:49
    up with anything or else we're going to
  • 00:22:50
    have to fire him until then we currently
  • 00:22:52
    stand by our conviction that none of
  • 00:22:53
    these statements alone indicate the axis
  • 00:22:55
    angle yeah none of these statements
  • 00:22:57
    alone I agree with that none of these
  • 00:22:58
    statements alone indicate that axis
  • 00:23:00
    angle or any of the lead developers
  • 00:23:02
    myself or Shay are in support a behavior
  • 00:23:04
    against minors to continue baseless
  • 00:23:06
    claims with these as evidence would be
  • 00:23:08
    considered acts of defamation against
  • 00:23:09
    their team is this supposed to be like A
  • 00:23:11
    Veiled Threat of a defamation lawsuit
  • 00:23:13
    there is no way you can say this is
  • 00:23:15
    defamation you guys just admitted to
  • 00:23:16
    everything in this video basically and
  • 00:23:18
    for the one thing that I don't know
  • 00:23:20
    which is the willow thing I got that
  • 00:23:21
    information from a different person and
  • 00:23:23
    also said allegedly because that was the
  • 00:23:24
    one thing I didn't really know like I
  • 00:23:26
    said none of these statements alone
  • 00:23:27
    indicate any of these things however
  • 00:23:30
    together I do think that they do
  • 00:23:32
    indicate something but it does show that
  • 00:23:34
    they do not care what happens to people
  • 00:23:37
    as long as they're not really impacted
  • 00:23:39
    they have continued to sweep this under
  • 00:23:40
    the rug which is why this video
  • 00:23:42
    completely blew up the community because
  • 00:23:43
    pretty much everybody underneath the
  • 00:23:45
    surface has been thinking about these
  • 00:23:47
    things and it really just took somebody
  • 00:23:49
    to connect the dots and realize that
  • 00:23:51
    this is not something that should be
  • 00:23:53
    happening on a Roblox game or any game
  • 00:23:55
    in general to be honest ultimately my
  • 00:23:57
    goal is to provide great games that our
  • 00:23:59
    community can enjoy we have a lot to
  • 00:24:01
    learn and improve with how we handle our
  • 00:24:02
    community but we will continue to make
  • 00:24:04
    our best effort with our staff and core
  • 00:24:06
    development team dude this is sad it
  • 00:24:09
    would be so easy it's like Roblox the
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    same thing with Ruben Sim where you have
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    people that are trying to help you get
  • 00:24:15
    these people out of your community but
  • 00:24:17
    you seem to essentially be doing not
  • 00:24:19
    just nothing but you essentially seem to
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    be pushing back against it it's so weird
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    but before we get to all the other
  • 00:24:25
    statements let's get into the first axis
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    angles apolog okay cuz this is a really
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    important apology to talk about as you
  • 00:24:31
    guys probably know from the first video
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    the day before I uploaded that video a
  • 00:24:35
    bunch of axis angles old messages got
  • 00:24:37
    leaked and this was axis angle's apology
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    for that because he really does care
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    about his apology guys and this one is
  • 00:24:42
    sh lauff saying this morning we received
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    multiple reports regarding edgy jokes
  • 00:24:47
    made in the server back in 2016 we don't
  • 00:24:49
    personally subscribe to the comment
  • 00:24:50
    jokes made when reviewing the evidence
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    we came to the conclusion that almost
  • 00:24:54
    all the server messages at that time
  • 00:24:56
    required some level of action on our
  • 00:24:58
    part acknowledging this we decided to
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    arcave all channels created before 2018
  • 00:25:02
    the server started as a community that
  • 00:25:04
    didn't take itself seriously and with
  • 00:25:05
    that our server rules policies and
  • 00:25:07
    channels reflected that when the server
  • 00:25:09
    became partnered and linked to Phantom
  • 00:25:10
    Forces all of that changed hopefully
  • 00:25:13
    people understand why we arive chats
  • 00:25:15
    going through two years of very active
  • 00:25:17
    chat messages in multiple channels just
  • 00:25:19
    didn't seem feasible wait I thought this
  • 00:25:20
    was about axis angles messages why is it
  • 00:25:23
    written by a different person and it
  • 00:25:25
    doesn't mention him and he doesn't
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    apologize that's because this was the
  • 00:25:28
    day that the access messages got leaked
  • 00:25:30
    but because I didn't upload my video
  • 00:25:33
    these people weren't pressured to do
  • 00:25:34
    anything which is why they were going to
  • 00:25:35
    sweep it under the rug again dude it's
  • 00:25:37
    so silly that it's been 3 days as of
  • 00:25:39
    uploading this video since they wrote
  • 00:25:41
    this message and in their response
  • 00:25:42
    they're trying to pretend they don't
  • 00:25:44
    sweep things under the rug even though
  • 00:25:46
    when axis made these messages they shut
  • 00:25:48
    down the Discord and then posted this
  • 00:25:51
    instead of him apologizing it's
  • 00:25:54
    ridiculous unless I uploaded this video
  • 00:25:57
    nothing would happen happened this is
  • 00:25:58
    why I uploaded the video now we have the
  • 00:26:00
    axis angle apology and it has some good
  • 00:26:02
    in it it says I have several major
  • 00:26:04
    regrets I am embarrassed by my conduct
  • 00:26:06
    in the early days of the Discord and how
  • 00:26:08
    my actions normalized misbehavior and
  • 00:26:10
    put adult topics in a place accessible
  • 00:26:12
    to miners these unnuanced provocative
  • 00:26:14
    takes and vulgar jokes were not right
  • 00:26:15
    for me to make for that I am sorry which
  • 00:26:18
    if this was the only thing that he did
  • 00:26:20
    and there's even more stuff that people
  • 00:26:22
    have found and dm'd me about but if this
  • 00:26:23
    was the only thing he did I would be
  • 00:26:25
    like that is so weird but I think if he
  • 00:26:27
    made an apology it would have been fine
  • 00:26:29
    but the problem is he had the
  • 00:26:31
    opportunity to make an apology but when
  • 00:26:33
    people found his messages instead he had
  • 00:26:36
    a different person make a statement that
  • 00:26:39
    didn't even mention him and it's really
  • 00:26:41
    sad because a lot of people have been
  • 00:26:42
    throwing so much stuff at axis angle and
  • 00:26:45
    it's really sad because I I did not
  • 00:26:47
    think that axis angle would would do
  • 00:26:50
    that he said he failed to protect our
  • 00:26:52
    community from Juke I failed to gain an
  • 00:26:54
    understanding of what he really was
  • 00:26:55
    allowing him to keep making content
  • 00:26:57
    which is great that he responded to this
  • 00:26:59
    and like I said this would have been a
  • 00:27:01
    good response to this if this was the
  • 00:27:04
    only thing that happened and this is not
  • 00:27:05
    the only thing that happen that's the
  • 00:27:07
    problem I want to address some claims in
  • 00:27:08
    the video there are accusations that
  • 00:27:10
    sid9 is actually Willow sid9 is not
  • 00:27:13
    Willow please do not harass him when I
  • 00:27:14
    said that we may rehire Willow this was
  • 00:27:17
    after we removed her but before real
  • 00:27:19
    evidence came through the first claims
  • 00:27:21
    to come out against Willow while not
  • 00:27:22
    Savory were not illegal and seemed
  • 00:27:24
    politically motivated there was a lot of
  • 00:27:26
    nuance here the day after the fact more
  • 00:27:27
    people came out this time with
  • 00:27:29
    legitimate claims against Willow which
  • 00:27:31
    we immediately acted on I was never
  • 00:27:32
    juke's friends my first real
  • 00:27:34
    interactions just after I learned of him
  • 00:27:36
    occurred at Midwest furfest when he
  • 00:27:39
    asked if we could meet up for dinner it
  • 00:27:40
    was the most awkward set of interactions
  • 00:27:42
    I've ever had he manipulated another
  • 00:27:44
    person into giving him money so he could
  • 00:27:45
    buy me something then tried to
  • 00:27:47
    manipulate me into being his boyfriend
  • 00:27:49
    after drinking a whole bottle of my wine
  • 00:27:51
    but at least in 2021 you were like 26 at
  • 00:27:54
    the time I didn't see this as
  • 00:27:56
    manipulation but what he didn't Juke
  • 00:27:59
    would tell a Sab story get you to feel
  • 00:28:00
    sorry for him then turn around and
  • 00:28:02
    whatever lenience you gave him it was
  • 00:28:04
    like he could not stop himself from
  • 00:28:05
    taking the worst possible action at
  • 00:28:07
    every opportunity my takeaway is that I
  • 00:28:09
    got a small taste of what it's like to
  • 00:28:11
    be one of juke's victims unfortunately
  • 00:28:13
    the reason why I was on stream talking
  • 00:28:14
    about different levels of infraction and
  • 00:28:16
    harm is because ironically cancel
  • 00:28:19
    culture makes no room for nuance for me
  • 00:28:21
    cancel culture just means you said
  • 00:28:23
    something bad back in 2016 this is a
  • 00:28:25
    little bit different than what I would
  • 00:28:27
    normally think I would normally think of
  • 00:28:29
    um just a off-color joke and yeah the
  • 00:28:31
    things that he said in 2016 were pretty
  • 00:28:33
    bad they were in a kids server but it's
  • 00:28:35
    everything else that's the problem I
  • 00:28:37
    wasn't even going to put those
  • 00:28:38
    screenshots in the video until I
  • 00:28:41
    realized that he was 20 when he said
  • 00:28:42
    that because I understand that people
  • 00:28:43
    make really weird jokes but to be 20
  • 00:28:46
    years old in a kids game server that you
  • 00:28:48
    own saying those things and then doing
  • 00:28:50
    everything else dude come on man but
  • 00:28:53
    maybe my position as a privileged male
  • 00:28:55
    allows me the Comfort to consider more
  • 00:28:57
    nuanced takes unfortunate what I don't
  • 00:28:59
    know what that mean unfortunately I feel
  • 00:29:01
    my presumption that people are not out
  • 00:29:03
    to cause harm actually in turn makes
  • 00:29:05
    room for those people to perpetuate it
  • 00:29:07
    maybe Juke is not the exception but a
  • 00:29:10
    norm okay is he talking about me saying
  • 00:29:12
    I am out to cause har and cancel culture
  • 00:29:15
    or whatever absolutely not the case
  • 00:29:17
    because I actually liked this game I'll
  • 00:29:20
    probably go into that in part two but I
  • 00:29:23
    dude I did not I did not want to have to
  • 00:29:26
    make the video that I did did we have
  • 00:29:29
    always given second chances at stylist
  • 00:29:31
    this is probably a mistake in many in
  • 00:29:33
    many cases I've already taken major
  • 00:29:35
    steps to prevent Juke and Willow like
  • 00:29:36
    cases we will formally discuss policy
  • 00:29:38
    changes with staff to better address the
  • 00:29:40
    future the problem with this is that
  • 00:29:42
    this did not happen after Juke this did
  • 00:29:45
    not happen after Willow this did not
  • 00:29:48
    happen even after axis was exposed this
  • 00:29:51
    is after my video so the fact that these
  • 00:29:53
    people are saying that my video is
  • 00:29:55
    slanderous and is spreading a hateful
  • 00:29:56
    narrative and all this stuff but they
  • 00:29:58
    only only make changes when I made my
  • 00:30:02
    video can I does that it's just
  • 00:30:05
    ridiculous it's just ridiculous dude
  • 00:30:08
    this is so stupid I cannot believe that
  • 00:30:11
    they wait until my video and then
  • 00:30:12
    they're like well actually this video is
  • 00:30:14
    bad but actually going to maybe start
  • 00:30:16
    actually doing something about this
  • 00:30:17
    stuff they finally start to bring this
  • 00:30:19
    stuff up when I bring it to light and
  • 00:30:21
    then they say this video is actually
  • 00:30:23
    very bad and harmful but you will
  • 00:30:25
    continue to cover it up until I actually
  • 00:30:28
    talk about it it's ridiculous now this
  • 00:30:29
    is the most fun part of this okay
  • 00:30:31
    finally if anyone has evidence of me
  • 00:30:34
    victimizing or abusing them they can
  • 00:30:36
    make it public or report it to staff and
  • 00:30:38
    then we can deal with the
  • 00:30:40
    consequences C can you guys read that
  • 00:30:42
    again so he made an apology but there's
  • 00:30:45
    definitely something else going on here
  • 00:30:47
    how else are people supposed to take
  • 00:30:49
    that message if anyone has evidence you
  • 00:30:51
    should make a report and then we can
  • 00:30:52
    deal with the consequences if you didn't
  • 00:30:55
    do anything he wouldn't say this he
  • 00:30:57
    wouldn't say if he didn't do anything I
  • 00:30:59
    talked to Ruben Sim both of us could
  • 00:31:00
    agree that axis was weird I think this
  • 00:31:02
    game is harmful and um it's sad because
  • 00:31:05
    I really liked the game but I can't
  • 00:31:07
    really take this any other way I I think
  • 00:31:09
    that that yeah I don't know dude and
  • 00:31:11
    then AIS angle says we are working with
  • 00:31:13
    staff to assess what we will do moving
  • 00:31:15
    forward how much staff we will have left
  • 00:31:17
    and how to make changes to our policy to
  • 00:31:19
    provide a safe environment for the
  • 00:31:21
    community we will announce this action
  • 00:31:23
    plan in addition to some clarifying
  • 00:31:25
    statements in a follow-up response this
  • 00:31:26
    may take a while but probably doing here
  • 00:31:29
    is preparing to throw axess angles under
  • 00:31:31
    the bus and say that the other two
  • 00:31:33
    developers are fine and that they
  • 00:31:35
    weren't involved in anything and we can
  • 00:31:38
    just keep moving on am I clean are you
  • 00:31:40
    kidding me dude anyway this video has
  • 00:31:41
    been very difficult to record um but
  • 00:31:45
    yeah I hope I can explain why this
  • 00:31:47
    response was not good uh yeah so you
  • 00:31:49
    guys
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