ATTRACT HER INSTANTLY, Just DO THIS - Chris Williamson x Dr. Robert Glover

00:37:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuze4FKSGis

概要

TLDRThe video delves into the complexities of relationships, focusing on the significance of emotional tension and the roles of dominance and submission in attraction. The speaker argues that nice guys often misinterpret female attraction by failing to recognize the need for polarity, which includes elements of both dominance and submission. Through personal anecdotes, the speaker illustrates how understanding these dynamics can lead to more fulfilling and balanced partnerships. He emphasizes the importance of being authentic, overcoming anxiety, and nurturing connections with other men to improve one's relationship skills and overall well-being.

収穫

  • 💞 Relationships are complex and require understanding.
  • 🔄 Attraction involves polarity: dominance and submission are key.
  • 🌬️ Emotional tension keeps relationships engaging.
  • 👠 Strong women may prefer to be led at times.
  • 🗣️ Authenticity is crucial for connection.
  • 🕺 Nice guys often misunderstand what women want.
  • ➕ Establishing boundaries is vital for healthy relationships.
  • 🤝 Building a tribe of men can enhance personal growth.
  • 💬 Communication styles differ significantly between genders.
  • 🎭 Playfulness can alleviate relationship tension.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The video begins by discussing the importance of relationships as the foundational aspect of human experience. It highlights how emotional connection to work is often lacking, and stresses that true attraction between males and females relies on the balance of dominance and submission. This polarity is crucial for attraction; without it, relationships may lack excitement, leading to questions about individuals' ability to connect or attract each other. The speaker shares personal anecdotes about relationships, emphasizing that while women can be strong and independent, they often seek partners who can take charge and lead in certain contexts.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Moving deeper into the discussion, the speaker clarifies the concept of leading versus controlling in relationships. He emphasizes that men need to set the tone by expressing their desires and guiding the flow of interaction, rather than being overly submissive. This nuanced approach allows partners to engage in a dance of leadership and followership, fostering deeper emotional connection. The speaker also touches upon emotional tension—stating that women often need this tension to feel attraction, as it creates an intense connection that men might struggle to understand. Men usually prefer closure and resolution, while women may thrive in emotional tension.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    A further examination of emotional tension reveals that, generally, women often seek emotional drama—conflict and resolution—which keeps them engaged and connected. The speaker critiques the misconception that being 'nice' equates to attraction, noting that this behavior can unintentionally create distance. Rather, men should embrace emotional tension, which can come from assertive and playful engagement, fueling attraction. He highlights that emotional tension is often mismanaged by men who try to alleviate discomfort instead of embracing it, ultimately hurting their chances of connection.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The discussion shifts to how movie narratives reflect these differing experiences of tension and resolution. The speaker explains that while men may prefer stories with quick resolutions, women often enjoy prolonged emotional tension, keeping them engaged in the narrative. He uses the example of romantic comedies, noting how men usually desire closure by the end while women relish in the unfolding drama. This difference illustrates a fundamental aspect of masculine and feminine dynamics, where emotional tension becomes a vehicle for connection.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    As the conversation progresses, the speaker addresses the challenges faced by women after they have felt overworked and emotionally burdened in masculine roles throughout their day. When they come home, women often want to vent but also seek engaging leadership from their partners, guiding them toward a more relaxed emotional state. He suggests that men should set boundaries around listening and redirect conversations to maintain a balance that encourages a reconnecting with the feminine energy.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Transitioning to strategies for men to embody authentic self-expression, the speaker advises against overly cautious behavior. He encourages spontaneity and honesty—allowing humor and impulses to emerge without fear. This authenticity, rooted in confidence, supports deeper connections instead of creating an overly controlled or anxious persona that can detract attraction. He shares personal anecdotes illustrating that honest spontaneity can lead to unexpected positive engagement in romantic interactions.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:37:11

    Finally, the speaker outlines key practices for men striving to overcome 'nice guy' tendencies, emphasizing the importance of connecting with safe individuals, recognizing one's own needs, establishing boundaries, and fostering relationships with other men. By creating supportive communities and learning through authentic interactions, men can begin moving past their fears, embrace their authentic selves, and cultivate fulfilling relationships.

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ビデオQ&A

  • What is the main theme of the video?

    The video explores the dynamics of relationships, attraction, and emotional tension.

  • What do nice guys not understand about female attraction?

    They often don't realize that attraction involves polarity, which includes elements of dominance and submission.

  • How can emotional tension impact a relationship?

    Emotional tension can create attraction and keep partners engaged with each other over time.

  • What role does dominance and submission play in relationships?

    They are essential for creating polarity, which is necessary for attraction.

  • Why is authenticity important for men in relationships?

    Being authentic helps men express themselves genuinely and connect better with their partners.

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    relationships which are obviously I
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    think Ground Zero for a lot of this
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    and all the rest of it not everybody is
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    emotionally connected with the work and
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    not everybody's emotionally connected
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    with how organized their source cupo is
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    relationships real Ground Zero what do
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    nice guys not understand about how
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    female attraction works for there to be
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    attraction they has to be a polarity and
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    polarity involves dominance and
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    submission I know those are evil
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    terrible words you know uh because we
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    think about dominant man you know making
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    women be submissive you're you're in a
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    safe space here I'm not I'm not sweating
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    it uh but yeah it is all it is going out
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    on the internet which is fine you know
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    and what's happened is the polarity is
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    just switched where the females have
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    become Domin the dominant players and
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    the guys have become the the submissive
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    players and then the the women go how
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    come I can't find a guy that turns me on
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    and the guys you're going how come I
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    can't seem to turn women on well it's
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    it's is revers the polarity you you
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    can't have polarity that's attraction
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    without dominance and submission and the
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    more subtle it is the more subtle the
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    attraction is the more blatant it is
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    tends to be the more intense the
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    attraction is we've probably all
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    experienced that in one way or another I
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    tell people you can't have sex without
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    dominance and submission otherwise there
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    two bodies lying next to each other
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    waiting for something to happen you know
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    you got yeah yeah yeah fight you gotta
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    have a top and bottom you gotta have a
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    pitcher and catcher right there's got to
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    be a polarity now the beauty is that
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    polarity can you can flip it around you
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    know back and forth and I think in very
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    conscious
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    relationships that that happens
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    beautifully my my wife's very strong she
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    grew up eight out of 10 kids in poverty
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    in guadalahara Mexico alcoholic father
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    got beat on by family members beat on by
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    neighbors you know abused by family
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    members abused by priests you know she
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    she's been through you know she goes to
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    the gym two hours a day she can out
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    squat me easily she's done my thigh I I
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    don't I don't piss her off um you know
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    she can get [ __ ] done I grew up in a
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    middle class whitebred neighborhood of
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    Seattle Washington surrounded by Boeing
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    engineer families you know just you know
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    I I never had to fight for anything okay
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    so she's tough but she doesn't she's
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    always told me I love it when you tell
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    me no she goes I she goes I I don't want
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    to be in charge I don't want you to
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    always ask me what what you know what do
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    you want to do she she likes it when I
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    make we'll walk into a restaurant and
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    you know they'll here in Mexico and
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    they'll say they'll they'll say should I
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    they'll ask her should I get the waiter
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    say should I give him a menu in English
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    she goes no he lives in Mexico give them
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    one in Spanish and I'll say yeah give
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    give my wife and kids the menu in
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    English and then they hand her a menu
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    and she goes no he's my boss he'll order
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    for me and they always laugh about that
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    and I say yeah I get to be the boss when
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    she says I can you know so we got the
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    old the whole shtick down but the truth
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    is she is strong she's powerful she can
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    get [ __ ] done she can kick ass but she
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    doesn't want to be in that mode all the
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    time she wants to to be led she wants to
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    submit she wants to open she wants to be
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    done to in in Blissful kinds of ways
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    well that's my job right so and even
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    though I'm kind of more that I'm I go
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    along to get along I you know I'm yeah
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    this or that either one's okay with me
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    I'm kind of more that way she doesn't
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    like it when I'm that way so for her
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    she's happy it's when I will play the
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    default lead the default decision maker
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    but she likes it best when I said here's
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    what I was thinking what do you think
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    you know I don't just say what do you
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    think you know what do you want I'll say
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    you know I was thinking a white with a
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    little bit of ttin of gray in it what do
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    you think you know she wants me to to to
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    lead that and then she'll feel the
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    polarity and then she'll tell me what
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    she thinks or wants and then you say you
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    decide okay let's go let's go let's go
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    pick out the paint um am I being abusive
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    to her by being dominant no I've heard
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    so many women tell me when the guy
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    leaves it all up to them too compliant
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    the women feel burdened by that most are
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    in their masculine dominant role all day
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    long in their work in their career
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    raising children even mothering is a
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    masculine dominant state to be in you're
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    taking care of kids needs that's not
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    feminine you don't then want to have to
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    take care of your partner after that
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    yeah then then when the guy says oh I
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    don't guess you want to have sex tonight
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    would you or what do you want for and
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    it's just one more thing that they got
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    to check off their to-do list yeah they
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    don't want that now am I making a
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    generalization yeah is it fluid yeah is
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    it nuanced yeah is it okay the guy's
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    always got to be the dominant the
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    woman's but no that's not what I'm
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    saying but for for men when I start
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    talking about them consciously setting
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    the tone and leading in relationship
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    when I say that to a nice guy the
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    response he usually he he'll ponder it
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    and go okay Dr Glover what I hear you
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    say when you say take control I go no no
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    you did not hear me S say the word take
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    control I did not say it I don't believe
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    in it I'm talking about you lead you set
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    the tone you state what you want where
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    you want to go what you want to eat and
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    and and give her a chance to follow like
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    on the Dance Floor she can't follow
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    where you don't lead give her that and
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    then be open to discussion be open to
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    her taking the you know setting the tone
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    and leading but it's not about but guys
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    nice guys will say well you know when
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    you said take control no is more nuanced
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    than that but again so that that that's
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    my job is helping guys apply the the
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    Nuance that that word of
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    2024 what is the role of emotional
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    tension oh you've done some research um
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    yeah that's a cute little wink of the I
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    that just just with you I'm
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    just I'm just trying to float with you
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    yeah I know the girls like it probably
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    the boys do too I I I live in a very gay
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    community so you know I know how it was
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    um okay so the role of emotional tension
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    there we go we just had emotional
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    tension going on right there
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    yep I'm gonna I'm gonna make a
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    generalization that doesn't apply to
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    everybody but it does seem to apply to a
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    lot and this the generalized statement
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    is is that in general for women to
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    experience attraction say towards a man
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    arousal and to stay attached to that man
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    over time she has to experience some
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    kind of emotional tension she's got to
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    feel something the butterflies the this
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    the that the drama the does he love me
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    doesn't love me and we men can kind of
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    understand that a little bit we kind of
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    like the tension we feel of go oh she
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    she looks nice you know like her boobs
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    whatever you know that creates a tension
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    for us but in general men don't like
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    emotional tension especially in a
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    relationship if you even think about you
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    know our sporting events where we too
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    did our tension they have clocks on them
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    you know we know it's going to end at
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    this time that's why baseball is falling
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    out of favor that's why they put a clock
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    on baseball they put the they put the
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    pitch clock last year yeah you know that
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    problem how many times you can throw it
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    first you know because oh we got to have
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    it on the clock you know so um so men's
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    tension is on the clock oh yeah I I I I
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    know this you know this this adventure
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    flick I'm watching in the hero this is
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    happening I know he's going to get out
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    of it and it's gonna be done in 35
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    minutes you know it's done we're done
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    shoot go home kick back into nothingness
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    right the feminine never gets tired of
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    tension the feminine if it if it isn't
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    feeling tension is Bored it will create
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    tension and so that's what's hard for
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    men to understand you know we think
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    being nice to women will make them be
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    attractive to us but nice creates
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    absolutely no attention no tension
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    really for anybody men or women but we
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    think well that's what Mom told me to do
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    go be go go be nice to them it's what
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    that's what I in junior high all the
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    women were complaining about those jerks
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    who created tension for them and so I
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    listened to her complain about the jerks
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    and she kept going back to the jerk even
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    after you know I was such a nice
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    guy so in general women need that
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    emotional tension watch it they create
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    it within themselves um and and we guys
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    if we have any kind of tension between
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    us we'll just have it out maybe we'll
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    punch each other and then we'll be done
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    we'll go have a beer it's all good you
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    know uh we don't need to keep going back
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    into that tension state to have a bond
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    to have a connection well we'll go do
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    something together we may go compete we
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    may go bring our aame and leave it all
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    on the field but then we walk off arm in
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    arm you know so it's just the the the
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    the difference between that masculine
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    and feminine so the hardest part for men
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    to understand is that the women need
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    that attention so even when I say wait
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    for me I'll open your door and now I
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    create a little bit of dominance and she
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    waits for me that's tension all right
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    it's just a little bit it's a little
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    subtle you know even like you know say
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    hey put the menu down I'll order for us
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    tonight there's tension in that not
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    being nice it's actually creating some
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    what's he gonna order for is he gonna
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    pick something I like do I trust him is
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    it gonna be an adventure you know I I
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    tell guys and you and you know guys will
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    think is game play and it kind of look
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    like that and but the the the real thing
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    is actually just is how do we get more
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    conscious so I'll tell a guy for example
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    you know if a woman sends you a message
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    text message or calls you and if you
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    reply right away or you pick up the
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    phone and answer how much tension will
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    the woman experience through that well
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    well none we've relieved it and soon as
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    we answered the phone her tension went
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    away but what if you didn't answer it
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    what if you called her back in 30
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    seconds 45 seconds an hour and she goes
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    where were you why didn't you answer
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    answer and what if you didn't give her
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    an answer to that and she's going why
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    didn't he answer what was he doing now
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    here's the thing because as guys tend if
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    we do have emotional tension we like
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    what I call positive emotional tension
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    you know it it it feels good to us where
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    have for the for women they don't care
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    is it positive emotional tension is it
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    NE is it pet or is it net negative
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    emotional tension they don't care
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    emotional tension is emotional tension
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    and so you know if it means you know
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    them starting a fight you know them
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    doing something knows they know's going
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    to piss us off it's kind of like they
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    don't care they got our attention and
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    and that's all that mattered they got
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    our attention and there's tension and
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    even the thing of guys like listening to
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    women talk about their problems I tell
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    guys there's a an an inverse negative
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    relationship between the amount of time
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    a man spends listening to a woman talk
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    about her problems and the likelihood
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    he's going to get late what you mean it
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    means that if you sit and listen to talk
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    about her problems you've actually
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    relieved all of her tension tension
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    flowed completely out of because you
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    know she talk she talk she talk all all
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    the tension came away and what I tell
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    guys is then you end up looking like uh
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    her girlfriend with a penis and odds are
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    she doesn't want to have sex with her
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    girlfriend so anything we do to relieve
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    their tension actually works against us
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    and robs them kind of like we talked
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    about earlier are we going to rob them
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    of the joy of doing for us well are we
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    going to rob them of the emotional
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    tension that they have to have to feel
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    to feel something to to want to engage
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    you had this fantastic example of how
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    emotional tension is enjoyed differently
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    by men and women by the story arcs of
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    romantic comedies and how men and women
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    uh experience experience that can you
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    explain that well you mean like you know
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    you you take your woman to watch Titanic
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    and she Titanic you know she's already
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    seen it eight times and she walks away
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    with her panties wet thinking how come I
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    can't have that and the guy the guy
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    checking his watch checking his phone is
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    Sports Center on yet how do I get out of
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    here I I thought what was particularly
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    interesting was you you explaining and
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    it really sort of hit home to me that uh
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    if you're a man who's watching a
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    romantic comedy you see um regulation at
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    the beginning everything is is fine then
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    you see disregulation something happens
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    and everything goes up in the air then
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    you see regulation again on like
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    middle movie regulation where the the
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    couple first starts to get together and
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    you're like oh well I mean that's it
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    like let's go home the movie's done yes
  • 00:12:37
    done whereas what the woman then wants
  • 00:12:39
    is this protracted oh but the
  • 00:12:42
    ex-girlfriend's back in the picture but
  • 00:12:44
    oh my God he hasn't got his right visa
  • 00:12:45
    and he's going to be deported how are
  • 00:12:47
    they going to keep the relationship
  • 00:12:48
    going and it's just protracted and
  • 00:12:50
    protracted and protracted and protracted
  • 00:12:51
    and then I don't I don't know what it's
  • 00:12:53
    like to be a woman at the end of a
  • 00:12:54
    romcom but it may be unsatisfying for
  • 00:12:57
    there to be a conclusion it's like what
  • 00:12:58
    could we just let's roll it for another
  • 00:13:00
    three hours let's just continue to
  • 00:13:01
    extend this T that's maybe where where
  • 00:13:03
    Bollywood figured it out let's just do
  • 00:13:05
    the wedding scene everybody's dancing to
  • 00:13:06
    a real upbeat song we know it's over but
  • 00:13:09
    now they'll they'll do a part two of it
  • 00:13:11
    right
  • 00:13:12
    um and you
  • 00:13:15
    know women I've been in relationship
  • 00:13:17
    with learned don't take me to a romantic
  • 00:13:20
    comedy I'm sitting there going that is
  • 00:13:22
    so [ __ ] unrealistic that doesn't
  • 00:13:24
    happen in the real world how come every
  • 00:13:27
    guy has a job he doesn't actually have
  • 00:13:28
    to go How come every woman's a fashion
  • 00:13:30
    editor in every one of these yeah I know
  • 00:13:33
    he loves dogs but he lives in this New
  • 00:13:35
    York Loft and makes canoes that's how he
  • 00:13:37
    supports himself come on that's not real
  • 00:13:40
    yes yeah you don't want to go to
  • 00:13:42
    romantic comedy with me because I live
  • 00:13:44
    in the world of could that really be
  • 00:13:46
    real could that really happen do people
  • 00:13:48
    really do that uh no you know that's not
  • 00:13:52
    how the real world works but it creates
  • 00:13:54
    emotional tension and so that's really
  • 00:13:57
    what it is all about it's not about
  • 00:13:58
    reality
  • 00:13:59
    the masculine wants to go resolve all
  • 00:14:01
    the emotional tension to get us back
  • 00:14:04
    into reality so yeah I it's it's really
  • 00:14:07
    hard for me to watch a romantic ComEd
  • 00:14:08
    and just twiddle my thumbs and just not
  • 00:14:11
    not say anything oh was excruciating so
  • 00:14:15
    thinking about this Dynamic that we have
  • 00:14:18
    this emotional tension this amount of of
  • 00:14:21
    of dominance and and uh Direction uh and
  • 00:14:25
    and suggestion that comes from the man
  • 00:14:28
    um there will be women listening and out
  • 00:14:31
    there who enjoy they're writing a Blog
  • 00:14:34
    article about us right now it's fine
  • 00:14:36
    it's fine add it to the list but there
  • 00:14:39
    will be women listening who are maybe a
  • 00:14:41
    little conflicted or there will be men
  • 00:14:43
    who imagine that the woman might be
  • 00:14:45
    conflicted because you say well she
  • 00:14:46
    wants she comes home she's had a
  • 00:14:48
    difficult day at the work because Kelly
  • 00:14:50
    that [ __ ] in the cubicle next door has
  • 00:14:52
    done that thing again that pisses her
  • 00:14:54
    off and the woman wants to be able to
  • 00:14:58
    vent she also wants her man to listen to
  • 00:15:00
    her and it's this odd duality of not
  • 00:15:04
    knowing what's best for us and of the
  • 00:15:07
    things that we want not always being in
  • 00:15:09
    our best interests right and you quoted
  • 00:15:12
    the best onion article which is woman
  • 00:15:15
    turns man into a partner she doesn't
  • 00:15:17
    want to be with i i i that that the
  • 00:15:20
    article the headline alone is is enough
  • 00:15:22
    right you
  • 00:15:24
    know and and again this is this is the
  • 00:15:27
    dance of relationship wouldn't it be
  • 00:15:29
    great if you know we could just say guys
  • 00:15:31
    just do it this way every woman's going
  • 00:15:33
    to like it no it doesn't work that way
  • 00:15:37
    and but what what you said was really
  • 00:15:40
    true is that yeah for example you know
  • 00:15:43
    the woman in your life's been in her
  • 00:15:45
    masculine all day doing at work putting
  • 00:15:48
    up with [ __ ] managers [ __ ]
  • 00:15:50
    customers [ __ ] clients [ __ ]
  • 00:15:52
    co-workers and now you know she comes
  • 00:15:54
    home there one more [ __ ] in the house
  • 00:15:56
    putting demands on her so for example um
  • 00:16:01
    the woman that folded my clothes that I
  • 00:16:02
    mentioned again I met her at the mall as
  • 00:16:05
    she sold me shoes and when after we
  • 00:16:07
    started dating um one of the things
  • 00:16:09
    where we really clicked is she liked
  • 00:16:11
    baseball I like baseball I'm a Texas
  • 00:16:14
    Rangers Fan I could have been part of a
  • 00:16:16
    threesim it would have been great there
  • 00:16:18
    we go you go flirting again but but you
  • 00:16:21
    you lost me as soon as you said Texas
  • 00:16:23
    Rangers you
  • 00:16:24
    know those of us were the World Series
  • 00:16:27
    championship in the last year yeah
  • 00:16:29
    you're you're the Wii you're the Homer
  • 00:16:30
    yeah we we won the World Series let me
  • 00:16:32
    see the ring man show show me the ring
  • 00:16:34
    okay so
  • 00:16:36
    um she liked baseball so you know she'd
  • 00:16:39
    get off work four or five o'clock in the
  • 00:16:41
    afternoon I'd already have a bar stool
  • 00:16:43
    staked out at the Roose Chris that was
  • 00:16:44
    right next to you know where she worked
  • 00:16:47
    couple of baseball games are already on
  • 00:16:49
    the screen uh at the bar they have this
  • 00:16:51
    great half price hamburger during happy
  • 00:16:53
    hour she'd come in and she would just
  • 00:16:57
    start you know I'd already have the wine
  • 00:16:58
    ordered sitting there you know the you
  • 00:17:00
    know the appetizers are coming and she's
  • 00:17:03
    like this about her day like that she's
  • 00:17:04
    been in her masculine all day I would
  • 00:17:07
    take out my phone set it at five minutes
  • 00:17:10
    and say you have my undivided attention
  • 00:17:12
    for five minutes put the phone on the
  • 00:17:14
    bar I would give her eye contact I would
  • 00:17:18
    face her I would listen undivided
  • 00:17:22
    attention she would run out of steam
  • 00:17:24
    before five minutes was up because she's
  • 00:17:27
    going I can sit here complain but
  • 00:17:29
    there's a baseball game on there's a
  • 00:17:31
    glass of wine sitting here what do I
  • 00:17:33
    prefer before now if I didn't put her on
  • 00:17:36
    the clock at five minutes it was a game
  • 00:17:38
    it was me being dominant but in a loving
  • 00:17:40
    playful if I didn't put on the clock she
  • 00:17:42
    might be crabby all night long and she
  • 00:17:45
    would not enjoy herself because one of
  • 00:17:48
    the things I found is that for somebody
  • 00:17:51
    who identifies as feminine to be in
  • 00:17:53
    their masculine all day are often not
  • 00:17:56
    good at getting themselves out of that
  • 00:17:57
    masculine I gotta go home and wash
  • 00:17:59
    dishes and get the laundry dunked
  • 00:18:01
    there's things we got to do before I
  • 00:18:02
    gotta get up and go to work tomorrow oh
  • 00:18:04
    sit down have a glass of wine tell me
  • 00:18:06
    about your day let me rub your feet I'm
  • 00:18:09
    a big fan of of in a sense leading her
  • 00:18:13
    back into her feminine out of that
  • 00:18:15
    masculine rigid get [ __ ] done kind of
  • 00:18:17
    state of mind and now all of a sudden
  • 00:18:19
    she begins opening and she'll tell me
  • 00:18:22
    your attention I might even say a woman
  • 00:18:24
    taught me this I'll say you know what I
  • 00:18:25
    want to hear about your day but give me
  • 00:18:27
    the guy version you know and I've never
  • 00:18:30
    had a woman ask me what does that mean
  • 00:18:32
    I'll say you you you want me to be your
  • 00:18:33
    guy right yeah yeah all right then I
  • 00:18:35
    need the guy version when you tell me
  • 00:18:37
    about the
  • 00:18:38
    day about how Kelly in the cubicle next
  • 00:18:41
    to her you know well and I know why she
  • 00:18:42
    does it because she's just insecure and
  • 00:18:44
    she's always wanting attention and she
  • 00:18:45
    always takes it out of me dear I love
  • 00:18:49
    you give me the guy version Kelly pissed
  • 00:18:51
    me off today great now I understand why
  • 00:18:54
    you had a bad
  • 00:18:55
    day so you know get play with it get
  • 00:18:59
    playful with it there's definitely one
  • 00:19:02
    of the common threads that I'm noticing
  • 00:19:04
    through a lot of the Dynamics is a
  • 00:19:05
    degree of playfulness and it's my nature
  • 00:19:08
    so it is what I bring and you know it
  • 00:19:12
    it's helping it's helping to it's
  • 00:19:13
    helping to relieve the tension relieve
  • 00:19:16
    the tension it's helping to relieve the
  • 00:19:19
    seriousness of
  • 00:19:20
    everything that it it gives more play it
  • 00:19:23
    gives like in the engineering term it
  • 00:19:26
    gives more room within the system for
  • 00:19:27
    things to breathe you you make a
  • 00:19:29
    suggestion but it's not it's not done in
  • 00:19:32
    too rigid of a fashion there's there's
  • 00:19:35
    there's movement in there and it's done
  • 00:19:37
    it's evident the reason that you're
  • 00:19:38
    doing it and it's not in a mocking way
  • 00:19:40
    it's not in a passive aggressive way
  • 00:19:42
    it's not in a condescending or
  • 00:19:43
    patronizing way but the reason that this
  • 00:19:46
    I think works is it shows hey look like
  • 00:19:50
    we're here to enjoy our time together
  • 00:19:52
    we're here you're here to enjoy we're
  • 00:19:53
    here to enjoy this and whether it's
  • 00:19:56
    someone's had something good happen
  • 00:19:57
    someone's had something bad happens
  • 00:19:59
    someone's sad someone's mad someone's
  • 00:20:00
    whatever and the appropriate amount of
  • 00:20:03
    playfulness I can struggle to think of
  • 00:20:05
    really many situations in which it
  • 00:20:07
    doesn't make it
  • 00:20:09
    better yeah I I and that doesn't mean
  • 00:20:12
    getting silly and everything's a joke
  • 00:20:14
    because again guys will kind of like Oh
  • 00:20:16
    you mean make a joke about it and go and
  • 00:20:18
    again teaching men to to be
  • 00:20:23
    light-hearted that that that that can be
  • 00:20:25
    a pretty daunting task yeah um now
  • 00:20:28
    what's funny though if you get men with
  • 00:20:31
    men and and let them just kind of begin
  • 00:20:33
    to let their hair down guys get silly
  • 00:20:36
    with each other and you know and but
  • 00:20:38
    we're I think we're afraid of showing
  • 00:20:39
    that to women oh yeah I won't I won't
  • 00:20:42
    appear manly I won't be you know there's
  • 00:20:44
    a degree of there's a degree of
  • 00:20:46
    competence I think uh I certainly
  • 00:20:49
    noticed this do you know who Charlie
  • 00:20:51
    hoopet is from Charisma on command he's
  • 00:20:54
    got a very big Charisma Channel on
  • 00:20:55
    YouTube a really really great guy very
  • 00:20:57
    embodied ton of self work ton of men's
  • 00:20:59
    work um and he uh helps mostly men but
  • 00:21:04
    also women become more charismatic so he
  • 00:21:07
    he he's he's learned the principles of
  • 00:21:09
    of confidence and Charisma and um one of
  • 00:21:11
    the best tools that he teaches is when
  • 00:21:15
    people ask a question the best answer
  • 00:21:18
    isn't always the right one and you know
  • 00:21:22
    he uses this example of um how to
  • 00:21:24
    overcome your discomfort around trying
  • 00:21:26
    to be funny and he says if you out of
  • 00:21:28
    the house and you're with people you
  • 00:21:30
    walk out of a bar or whatever and the
  • 00:21:32
    weather is one extreme of either hot or
  • 00:21:34
    cold make a joke about it being the
  • 00:21:36
    opposite yeah and he's like it's the
  • 00:21:38
    shittest joke it is the worst it's a
  • 00:21:40
    pure dad joke but he said it'll get a
  • 00:21:44
    chuckle out of people if you walk
  • 00:21:46
    outside and it's freezing hot and you go
  • 00:21:47
    dude wish I'd brought some shorts today
  • 00:21:48
    this is great um like people have a
  • 00:21:51
    little bit of a a chuckle about but it
  • 00:21:53
    really really showed me and I have a
  • 00:21:56
    friend George who's been on the show a
  • 00:21:57
    lot he a lot of the time if you're
  • 00:22:00
    playing kind of like a game of tennis so
  • 00:22:02
    you're playing a game of tennis which
  • 00:22:03
    involves a a linear conversation here is
  • 00:22:06
    a question there is an answer here is a
  • 00:22:08
    question there is an answer here's
  • 00:22:09
    another answer here's another question
  • 00:22:10
    and you play this back and forth he
  • 00:22:13
    regularly hits the ball sideways so
  • 00:22:16
    he'll call back to a thing that happened
  • 00:22:19
    a couple of weeks ago or he'll say oh
  • 00:22:21
    you know I bet that such and such a
  • 00:22:23
    famous person from the media would have
  • 00:22:24
    done that or whatever like he'll rip the
  • 00:22:27
    conversation out like orthogonally from
  • 00:22:30
    where it is and there's play in that
  • 00:22:32
    he's not answering the question because
  • 00:22:34
    he he has the comfort in himself to not
  • 00:22:38
    need to get validation by being I am the
  • 00:22:41
    person that always knows the answer I am
  • 00:22:44
    the person that is always able to give
  • 00:22:46
    the the correct conclusion that draws
  • 00:22:47
    the line that puts the full stop and
  • 00:22:49
    dots the eyes and crosses the teas I
  • 00:22:50
    don't need to be that person and it's
  • 00:22:52
    such a breath of fresh air because
  • 00:22:54
    you're having this conversation and and
  • 00:22:56
    you're like I'm excited like I don't
  • 00:22:57
    know what's going to and it f it
  • 00:22:59
    engenders that in you as well but
  • 00:23:01
    there's definitely like good boy energy
  • 00:23:04
    and nice guy energy in I will answer the
  • 00:23:08
    question properly I will ensure that
  • 00:23:10
    this you somebody has asked something of
  • 00:23:12
    me and deliver it I shall and that
  • 00:23:15
    removes the playfulness yeah you know
  • 00:23:17
    and and when I work with guys around
  • 00:23:19
    this again when I when I learned to date
  • 00:23:21
    in my 40s and 50s I you know I was never
  • 00:23:24
    good with women and if I got one I kept
  • 00:23:26
    them way too long and I started getting
  • 00:23:28
    six uccessful you know with with dating
  • 00:23:30
    and getting laid and guys said Robert
  • 00:23:32
    teach us I'm I'm not a dating Guru but
  • 00:23:36
    what you're talking about is that again
  • 00:23:38
    for most of the men I worked with they
  • 00:23:40
    get so afraid I'm gonna do something
  • 00:23:41
    wrong I'm gonna make a mistake I'm gonna
  • 00:23:43
    piss her off I I'll blow it and then
  • 00:23:45
    then it's irreparable and I'd say you
  • 00:23:47
    know just touch her don't you know if
  • 00:23:51
    you have the impulse to touch her touch
  • 00:23:52
    her if you have the impul to tease her
  • 00:23:53
    tease her if you have the impulse to
  • 00:23:54
    tell her come on let's go do this don't
  • 00:23:56
    hold back it's crazy as it sounds I tell
  • 00:23:59
    guys blurt and act on impulse you think
  • 00:24:03
    that's a recipe for disaster but the
  • 00:24:05
    truth is it lets them be themselves
  • 00:24:07
    because their authentic self comes out
  • 00:24:09
    and you know I've had so many
  • 00:24:11
    experiences you know around what if I
  • 00:24:13
    just blurted acted on impulse you know I
  • 00:24:16
    remember one woman I dated on the second
  • 00:24:18
    date we're going to go for a walk and
  • 00:24:20
    she said well let me go use the restroom
  • 00:24:21
    in a a restaurant and she went to the
  • 00:24:24
    restroom came back and I so I'm going to
  • 00:24:26
    go use the restroom I said by the way I
  • 00:24:27
    enjoyed watching you walk away from me
  • 00:24:29
    and as soon as I said it I thought oh
  • 00:24:31
    [ __ ] I probably blew it you know after
  • 00:24:33
    we broke up we saved friends and said
  • 00:24:36
    months later said you remember when you
  • 00:24:37
    said that to me said yeah I thought I
  • 00:24:39
    blew it he goes oh no I I loved it well
  • 00:24:42
    I it I just blurted it right I didn't
  • 00:24:44
    hold it back I remember another woman
  • 00:24:47
    ear early first date we're walking and
  • 00:24:50
    she said something about her her sister
  • 00:24:53
    sister-in-law they're they're having a
  • 00:24:55
    shoe party you know women get together
  • 00:24:57
    and
  • 00:24:58
    look at shoes sounds like the lamest
  • 00:25:01
    thing AER I can think of the a shoe
  • 00:25:05
    party lamest party in history but okay
  • 00:25:08
    and so I blurted with thinking oh shoe
  • 00:25:11
    shopping is women's porn she turned and
  • 00:25:14
    looked at me she goes you get it you
  • 00:25:18
    understand you know and and and so guys
  • 00:25:21
    will say well I'm not funny you know I'm
  • 00:25:23
    not I'm not you know I can't I'm not
  • 00:25:25
    talking about telling jokes I'm talking
  • 00:25:28
    about about whatever that thing that
  • 00:25:29
    came to the tip of your brain but you
  • 00:25:31
    held it back yeah because you're afraid
  • 00:25:33
    it might be the wrong thing to say the
  • 00:25:34
    wrong thing to do as soon as you held it
  • 00:25:37
    back you killed the tension the putting
  • 00:25:39
    it out there and sometimes you crash and
  • 00:25:41
    burn you know there's the sweat flops
  • 00:25:44
    you got oh man that didn't get one laugh
  • 00:25:46
    you know but you got to take that risk
  • 00:25:49
    every comedian you know has had plenty
  • 00:25:51
    of bombs to but man that one landed and
  • 00:25:56
    and it's not about trying to get it
  • 00:25:57
    right it's about taking the sensors off
  • 00:26:00
    and letting that you that maybe just
  • 00:26:03
    speaks to the obvious out there and
  • 00:26:06
    people people they'll relate to it or
  • 00:26:08
    they won't it seems a lot like one of
  • 00:26:12
    the key tactics for rehabilitating a
  • 00:26:15
    nice guy is learning to kind of get out
  • 00:26:17
    of your own way that's a good way to put
  • 00:26:20
    it because what we've been doing is
  • 00:26:22
    again go all the way back to where we
  • 00:26:24
    began this they've been trying to manage
  • 00:26:26
    their shame I I'm I'm bad I'm not good
  • 00:26:29
    enough I'm going to be found out I'm
  • 00:26:30
    going to die their anxiety oh no
  • 00:26:32
    somebody will react negatively there
  • 00:26:33
    would be pain involved a and so that is
  • 00:26:36
    what's driving the bus is their shame
  • 00:26:38
    and their anxiety and so who is really
  • 00:26:41
    in there you know who is the person um
  • 00:26:45
    one of the things the comments I get
  • 00:26:47
    from people that that work with me or
  • 00:26:49
    you know who come to my workshops or
  • 00:26:51
    seminars or or do calls with me they'll
  • 00:26:54
    say Robert I appreciate how how
  • 00:26:56
    authentic you are and I'll go
  • 00:26:58
    nobody would have accused me of that 30
  • 00:27:00
    years ago nobody would have said Robert
  • 00:27:02
    I love how real you are how authentic
  • 00:27:04
    you are how you just share yourself how
  • 00:27:06
    how you share your mistakes your fuckups
  • 00:27:08
    I didn't and and I couldn't attract a
  • 00:27:11
    woman to save my life you know back back
  • 00:27:13
    in those days I I I kind of could but I
  • 00:27:16
    I didn't know that what I was what I did
  • 00:27:18
    that might attract a woman but I wasn't
  • 00:27:20
    real I wasn't authentic I was holding my
  • 00:27:23
    finger up checking the wi I was a
  • 00:27:24
    chameleon you know what's what's going
  • 00:27:26
    to get me the most laughs or what's
  • 00:27:27
    going to get me you know what What will
  • 00:27:29
    what will kind of go over well but not
  • 00:27:31
    too well that you know now I'm not on
  • 00:27:32
    the spot that I got to follow through
  • 00:27:35
    and Manda just take the sensors off and
  • 00:27:38
    just blurt act on impulse be you I think
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    is such a powerful Rehabilitation and
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    since most nice guys their sensors are
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    the most prominent with women that's a
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    great place to go
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    practice one of my the same friend I was
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    talking about before Mr orthogonal
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    tennis game George he uh he has this
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    idea called only the irrational Behavior
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    survives what he's talking about what
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    he's talking about is he imagines um
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    being at the funeral of somebody that he
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    knows and he thinks about the
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    conversations that the people are having
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    around the room and then not having the
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    conversation the washing was always
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    folded and he turned up on time and all
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    the rest of it he uses this example of
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    his mom and he says that his mom hates
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    fighting just really does does not like
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    physical fighting big big problem with
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    it and once his brother was in the car
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    his younger brother was in the car with
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    her they were driving somewhere and she
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    I don't know 50s year old woman normal
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    British woman uh saw two 18yearold boys
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    sort of squaring up to each other and
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    pushing and and trying to fight or
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    whatever on the side of the on the
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    pavement she stops the car in the middle
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    of traffic gets out and runs over and
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    the brother's like Mom what the [ __ ] are
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    you doing like what the two guys twice
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    your size and quadruple your
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    testosterone what the [ __ ] are you doing
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    she runs over and she gets in between
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    them physically gets in between them
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    like no fighting no fighting gets back
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    in the car and the brother's like Mom
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    that was insane you could have been hurt
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    you could have been she's I don't care I
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    don't care I just don't like fighting no
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    one's fighting and he said at her
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    funeral people will say she was the sort
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    of person that would stop the car in the
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    middle of traffic to stop two boys from
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    fighting and it's like that only the
  • 00:29:20
    irrational Behavior survives is is
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    similar to what you're talking about
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    that there are rough edges to our
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    personality in our Behavior But
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    ultimately that is our personality and
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    behavior like if your goal your goal
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    should not be as a person on this planet
  • 00:29:37
    to smooth out any of the things that
  • 00:29:40
    make you anything into this sort of
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    vanilla amorphous blob that kind of like
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    just Glides through it's like no you
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    have things that you want to say and
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    actions that you want to take and
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    changes that you want to make and just
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    the faith to be able to do that and
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    encumbered is that's what life is yeah
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    and and and it it takes support it takes
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    practice um yeah you I talking No More
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    Mr Nice Guy about nice guys being Teflon
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    men no stick you know nothing I don't
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    want anything is stick to me but we do
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    connect as you said around our rough
  • 00:30:16
    edges look we've gone through this
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    Litany of problems right this big big
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    big big list and we don't have enough
  • 00:30:24
    time to prescribe the Panacea for all
  • 00:30:28
    the nice guys listening given the fact
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    that you've done so
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    many seminars coaching sessions working
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    with people what have you found if you
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    were to give the biggest
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    movers of um Rehabilitation for nice
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    guys um I don't think I've ever used
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    that exact word for it what what what
  • 00:30:49
    are the uh the practices what are the
  • 00:30:51
    places that they should focus on in
  • 00:30:52
    order to start to embody themselves more
  • 00:30:56
    honestly okay yeah be be there authentic
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    s exactly I I'll just walk you through
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    what I did number one I tell people find
  • 00:31:03
    safe people don't try to do this on your
  • 00:31:05
    own you didn't become a nice guy in
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    Social isol isolation don't try to get
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    over it in Social isolation we have to
  • 00:31:12
    say have safe people to start releasing
  • 00:31:14
    our shame to tell people I've got this
  • 00:31:16
    story about myself and people go that's
  • 00:31:19
    not bad that's not terrible at all
  • 00:31:21
    you're an that's normal what you're
  • 00:31:22
    describ so we need safe people to
  • 00:31:24
    support us release our shame perhaps me
  • 00:31:28
    us encourage us help us face our fears
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    so I tell nice guys go find a coach
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    therapist men's group I love men's
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    groups did a big chunk of my own
  • 00:31:38
    personal rehabilitation in in men's
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    groups uh I was leading five men's
  • 00:31:43
    groups a week when I was in private
  • 00:31:45
    practice up in Seattle um I just I'm a
  • 00:31:48
    Believer so find men's group don't try
  • 00:31:50
    to do this alone how do you so just to
  • 00:31:52
    interject there how do you know if it's
  • 00:31:53
    a good men's group or a bad men's group
  • 00:31:56
    that that's a good question and it is
  • 00:31:58
    somewhat subjective because something a
  • 00:32:01
    group you love might not work for me
  • 00:32:05
    um when I started looking for something
  • 00:32:09
    about all that existed at that time was
  • 00:32:12
    the uh the Robert blly mythol poetic go
  • 00:32:14
    out in the woods be the drum have the
  • 00:32:16
    Talking Stick and say oh I did that I
  • 00:32:18
    ended up in a 12-step program is where I
  • 00:32:20
    started not wasn't by choice it's just
  • 00:32:23
    where I landed um I I got lucky I I
  • 00:32:27
    landed in I was in a men's group led by
  • 00:32:29
    a woman around sexual shame who liked
  • 00:32:31
    men and so that was good for me I tried
  • 00:32:35
    some other men's groups that I just
  • 00:32:38
    never connected or resonated
  • 00:32:40
    with a core piece I would recommend
  • 00:32:43
    whether you're looking for a coach a
  • 00:32:44
    therapist a men's group is find somebody
  • 00:32:47
    who leads it who's actually done their
  • 00:32:49
    own work you mentioned embodiment quite
  • 00:32:52
    a bit somebody who's actually gone out
  • 00:32:54
    worked on their own stuff you know I I
  • 00:32:57
    became uh a therapist I I got my PhD in
  • 00:33:00
    marriage and family therapy at 29 years
  • 00:33:02
    old started you know a few years later
  • 00:33:06
    started doing you know trying to do real
  • 00:33:08
    therapy I'd never been to therapy and
  • 00:33:11
    you know it wasn't till I got into
  • 00:33:14
    therapy and men's groups and started
  • 00:33:17
    working on my own toxic shame and my own
  • 00:33:20
    anxieties and my own patterns that I
  • 00:33:22
    could actually really help people so you
  • 00:33:24
    know um it doesn't hurt to check out you
  • 00:33:27
    know ask the person what's your journey
  • 00:33:30
    you know where where have you worked on
  • 00:33:32
    yourself and then just see do you
  • 00:33:33
    connect with them that's that's usually
  • 00:33:35
    a good place do you connect so go go
  • 00:33:37
    find a coach therapist men's group 12
  • 00:33:39
    step group something where you get to go
  • 00:33:42
    start revealing you releasing toxic shap
  • 00:33:45
    start being honest nice guys think
  • 00:33:47
    they're honest we anything but honest I
  • 00:33:50
    remember pretty early in my process I I
  • 00:33:53
    realized almost everything I told my
  • 00:33:55
    then wife was whatever won't Rock the
  • 00:33:57
    Boat
  • 00:33:58
    so I I told her I'm going to work in
  • 00:33:59
    being honest whenever I catch myself
  • 00:34:02
    making up a story to tell you I'm going
  • 00:34:04
    to come tell you I was goingon to lie to
  • 00:34:06
    you here's the lie I was going to tell
  • 00:34:08
    you here's the whole truth so I started
  • 00:34:11
    doing that and actually I used to tell
  • 00:34:13
    her her middle name ought to be
  • 00:34:14
    overreact because that's what she did
  • 00:34:16
    and every the funny thing was when I
  • 00:34:18
    actually just started telling her the
  • 00:34:19
    truth about [ __ ] she'd go okay thanks
  • 00:34:22
    for telling me that I'm glad you didn't
  • 00:34:23
    lie to me and you know well that's
  • 00:34:25
    different you know when I was trying to
  • 00:34:27
    get her not to overreact she did when I
  • 00:34:29
    just told her the truth yeah okay don't
  • 00:34:32
    lie to me that was it so work on being
  • 00:34:34
    honest and again we need safe people
  • 00:34:36
    usually to do that uh work on making
  • 00:34:39
    your needs a priority start asking
  • 00:34:41
    yourself what do I want what's important
  • 00:34:43
    to me you know am I do I do I need to go
  • 00:34:46
    to the gym do I need to go to the
  • 00:34:47
    dentist uh do I need to take some time
  • 00:34:49
    to relax uh do I need to rest my eyes do
  • 00:34:52
    I need to go read a good book do I you
  • 00:34:54
    know how do I get my needs met and how
  • 00:34:56
    do I let people help me get my needs met
  • 00:34:58
    and how do I surround myself with people
  • 00:35:00
    who want to help me get my needs
  • 00:35:03
    met uh start working on boundaries
  • 00:35:06
    that's that's a big one for nice guys is
  • 00:35:08
    well nobody grows into adulthood knowing
  • 00:35:10
    how to set boundaries because nobody
  • 00:35:13
    teaches children out of head boundaries
  • 00:35:15
    um because in in the real world the big
  • 00:35:18
    people get to do whatever they want to
  • 00:35:19
    the little people and because we were
  • 00:35:21
    all little people we never learned you
  • 00:35:23
    could say no stop that I'm gonna remove
  • 00:35:25
    myself now so learn about boundaries I
  • 00:35:28
    was in my
  • 00:35:29
    30s in my second marriage with a PhD
  • 00:35:33
    before ID ever even heard of boundaries
  • 00:35:35
    a therapist I went to taught me about
  • 00:35:37
    them uh so start working on boundaries
  • 00:35:40
    and then I just I think the one other
  • 00:35:41
    piece I'll throw out there that I think
  • 00:35:43
    just so fundamental especially for guys
  • 00:35:45
    for nice guys go connect with men go
  • 00:35:49
    build a tribe of men I've had to do that
  • 00:35:51
    a few times in my life about seven years
  • 00:35:54
    ago when I got married down here in
  • 00:35:56
    Mexico um not yet fluent Spanish my wife
  • 00:36:00
    only speaks Spanish and I'm living out
  • 00:36:03
    here working at home I I had no guys in
  • 00:36:06
    my life and I went seeking and found a
  • 00:36:09
    men's program and joined it and
  • 00:36:12
    now if you looked at my text messaging
  • 00:36:15
    my calendars my email I'm on Zoom I'm
  • 00:36:18
    messaging with buddies all the freaking
  • 00:36:21
    time and it just it makes everything
  • 00:36:25
    about my world better I'm I'm more on
  • 00:36:27
    point with with my work my relationship
  • 00:36:30
    improved I'm in Better Health I'm
  • 00:36:33
    happier so build a connection with Mar
  • 00:36:36
    so there there's about five things that
  • 00:36:38
    are a pretty good start
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  • relationships
  • attraction
  • emotional tension
  • dominance
  • submission
  • polarity
  • authenticity
  • nice guy syndrome
  • boundaries
  • men's groups