NINA - As EASY As 1-2-3 Part 2: Sequencer

00:19:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDzGfMq1Rpg

概要

TLDRO vídeo apresenta uma visão abrangente do sequenciador no software Nina, focando em sua utilidade na automação da astrofotografia. Sacha demonstra como configurar sequências para capturar alvos como M45 (Plêiades) e Orion, enfatizando a simplicidade em adicionar novos alvos e a importância de usar templates para otimizar o processo. Através de uma série de passos práticos, é explicado como gerenciar equipamentos, configurar ações específicas e ajustar as definições conforme necessário. Após algumas práticas, os assistentes podem automatizar facilmente suas sessões de captura, permitindo um melhor uso do tempo.

収穫

  • 🌌 O sequenciador automatiza a astrofotografia.
  • 🔧 É possível adicionar alvos facilmente.
  • 📃 Templates ajudam a otimizar o processo.
  • 📊 O software é flexível e pode ser modificado.
  • ⏰ A prática torna o uso do sequenciador rotineiro.

タイムライン

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Na primeira parte, introducimos o software Nina, explicando como instalalo, conectalo co equipamento e realizar as primeiras capturas. Neste segundo capítulo, profundizamos no funcionamento do secuenciador, unha ferramenta de automatización que permite concentrarse na observación en lugar de na operativa do telescopio.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    O secuenciador, anteriormente coñecido como o secuenciador avanzado, facilita a programación de observacións astronómicas. Comezamos a buscar obxectivos como M45 e Orion, engadindo estes a unha lista de secuencias. A presentación inclúe unha explicación sobre como crear e modificar secuencias utilizando plantillas, reducindo a complexidade da forza técnica ao permitir que o usuario simplemente arrastre e solte os obxectivos.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:19:21

    Finalmente, explicamos como configurar as diferentes etapas na secuencia, desde preparar o equipo ata iniciar a captura de imaxes. A seguridade de que todos os elementos están conectados correctamente é fundamental antes de comezar, e o vídeo destaca a importancia de personalizar a secuencia segundo as necesidades do usuario, podendo incluso observar múltiples obxectivos na mesma noite.

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ビデオQ&A

  • O que é um sequenciador no Nina?

    Um sequenciador é uma ferramenta de automação que permite que os usuários configurem seus equipamentos de astrofotografia e capturem imagens automaticamente.

  • Como posso adicionar um alvo ao sequenciador?

    Use a Sky Atlas para encontrar e adicionar um alvo à lista de sequências.

  • Posso usar templates no sequenciador?

    Sim, você pode usar e modificar templates para facilitar a configuração do sequenciador.

  • Como posso modificar um template existente?

    Clique no ícone da lixeira para deletar e no ícone do disquete para salvar as modificações feitas.

  • O que devo fazer se os equipamentos não estiverem conectados?

    É importante garantir que todos os equipamentos estejam conectados antes de iniciar uma sequência.

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    in the first part of this geology we
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    looked at the basic things of Nina how
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    to install it how to set it up how to
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    connect the equipment how to change some
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    settings and how to do some basic
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    shooting now in the second part we look
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    at sequencing
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    hey this is few into space I'm Sasha
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    from Switzerland security McDonald's and
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    thanks for watching my channel so what
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    do we know our sequencer was known until
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    a few months ago as the advanced
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    sequencer but what is a sequencer
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    a sequencer is an automation tool
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    because that's really what we want from
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    Nina we do not want to care about all
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    the nitty-gritty stuff which has to be
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    done we want to let Nina do that and go
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    peacefully to watch TV or sleep or
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    anything else that's more interesting
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    that's standing freezing beside your
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    telescope
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    and while the sequencer might look a
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    little bit complex at the very start I
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    will guide you now through it and at the
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    end of the video it will not be that
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    scary anymore and after a few times
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    practicing it will be daily routine
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    let's jump now right in the PC and let's
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    have a look in Nina
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    so welcome to Nina again so let's assume
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    we have already connected all of our
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    equipment the next thing we do we go to
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    Sky Atlas and we want to look for
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    something we want to shoot something in
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    this light we want to shoot the player
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    these so we enter here M45 we search for
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    it and here it is so we see that's
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    actually wonderful it's right on sinus
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    at the moment Let's ignore that it's
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    daylight
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    so we say set for framing assistance and
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    here it is the player this so it fits
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    wonderful in my 400 millimeter scope
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    you can still move it a little bit
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    around and yeah that looks great let's
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    do it like this so now that I have it
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    actually framed the way that I want I go
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    here add Target to sequence and I have
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    now two options either I can say a
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    Target to sequence or I can say add
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    Target to Target list so let's first of
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    all move it to a Target list I can then
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    state of which sequence and we will look
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    at that in a second so I'll put it now
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    there so I can now go and actually look
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    for something else let's say I also want
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    to look for Orion also here framing
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    assistant
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    and here we have Orion this I think
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    actually looks better if I do it
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    vertically so let's move it around great
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    and I do the same again at the Target
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    list
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    move it to my sequence we will see in a
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    second How We Do sequences and it's done
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    now let's remember that we have done
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    that and we leave that at the moment as
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    it is and now we go here in sequencer so
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    in the sequencer we have actually
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    instructions
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    we have templates
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    and we have targets
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    and when we go to targets what you see
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    m42 and M45 so the two which we just
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    entered now right where we want it
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    already framed so these are our targets
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    and so we can store all the targets that
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    we actually want to shoot at one point
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    of time the wave frames that we want to
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    shoot him already here so we have them
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    ready now when it comes to sequences we
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    could start now from scratch but you
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    know it's a little bit like with
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    everything why reinvent the wheel so so
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    I did not start from scratch I took some
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    templates from Patriot Astro actually
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    you still see them here but then I also
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    modified them to my taste and what I
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    will provide now to you isn't quite
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    altered template that I feel is the most
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    efficient but it's also most efficient
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    for my case again it might be very
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    different from you and so that
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    definitely also go to Patriot Astro he
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    has really a lot of different templates
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    that you can actually use but we take
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    now the template that I will also
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    provide to you and let's throw this now
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    in here just drag and drop and as stated
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    at the beginning this looks now
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    extremely complex and confusing
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    and what we're doing now we go step by
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    step
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    through the script
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    and you will see that it's not that
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    confusing at all and also very easy to
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    modify so the first thing you have to
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    know if you want to delete this template
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    again you go on the very top to this
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    trash pin if I click it the whole thing
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    is gone again if you modify anything on
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    this script we're not talking about the
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    object we just talk about anything else
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    if you modify anything just click here
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    on this button on the floppy disk and it
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    saves it and before we go any further
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    you might have one question rightfully
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    so how do I actually get these templates
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    to appear here good question let's jump
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    over to options and in options to
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    Imaging and you see here sequence and on
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    the second line here you see sequence
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    templates folder that's a folder that's
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    already there by default you could
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    change it but on the other side you can
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    also leave it exactly where it is so
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    just find this folder on your hard drive
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    and throw the template that you download
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    either from page with Astro or from me
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    and just throw it in here and as soon as
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    you have done that you will find it in
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    the sequencer on the templates here and
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    you can use it and so also every time
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    you save a template for example a
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    version from what you have done it will
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    simply go in here and also be in the
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    folder that I just shown you so let's go
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    back so we have our template you know
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    now how to close it how to save it so
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    the next thing you will see is a lot of
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    these red marks here and what they state
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    is that whatever should be used here is
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    not connected which is quite obvious
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    because I'm not outside so for example
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    my telescope my camera is at the moment
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    not connected and that's very helpful
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    because once you configured it you need
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    and there might be things you don't even
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    have like for example a filter wheel so
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    these you will all delete
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    but at the end when you have your
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    template with your equipment if you
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    actually go in the template to fill it
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    in for the night and you see any of
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    these red signs still appearing it means
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    something you have forgotten to connect
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    it's a very good sign to still connect
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    it until every least one of these is
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    disappeared so a sequence is actually
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    red from the top to the bottom so we
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    start at the very top and the very top
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    actually gives us the object the Target
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    that we want to shoot
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    at the moment there's nothing in there
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    and we can now go to these targets which
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    we saved before
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    and we for example say we want to play
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    these and 45 we take it and throw it in
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    here and it's in here now it will shoot
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    the Pleiades if we change our mind
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    we want to shoot Orion we take this drag
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    and drop
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    now it's Orion
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    so whatever is up here is the one thing
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    that will be shot there is by the way
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    another way to do that if we go back now
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    to the framing assistance where we have
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    been remember here Orion
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    I can also say here add Target to
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    sequence if I click that
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    and I say sequencer I can choose here
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    from all the templates that I have
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    I click on it automatically this
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    template will be opened and you go into
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    the sequencer and you have exactly the
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    same picture as you have right now so
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    now let's go down and you see now that
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    we have certain blocks
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    they always start with a header for
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    example here it says equipment ready so
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    what we do in this block is get the
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    equipment ready and then there's three
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    groups the first one is triggers
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    and the trigger where we don't have here
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    one is something that has to happen that
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    it triggers something for example if
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    temperature goes down and autofocus is
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    triggered next is Loop conditions
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    if you want to Loop something that it
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    happens again and again and again
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    we stayed here until when this should
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    Loop for example until a certain time or
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    until the moon gets up and so on also we
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    don't need that here and then next come
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    the instructions so let's now see what
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    we instruct our rig to do first of all
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    we tell it to wait wait until 40 minutes
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    before astronomical dusk so then then we
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    start with the preparation
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    then please unpark the scope then set
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    the tracking to side rail then cool the
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    camera to -10 degrees Celsius once this
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    is done put the two heater at the camera
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    on switch the filter in the filter wheel
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    to an opt along L Pro so that we're
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    definitely not on a narrow band filter
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    for plate solving and then do a plate
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    solve and sync it with the scope and
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    then our first box is complete now you
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    might say
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    um find Sasha but I don't have a filter
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    wheel no problem
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    you go to this line here and you see the
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    trash bin
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    just throw it in the trash gone your
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    camera doesn't have a do heater no
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    problem
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    gone and I'll just show you how to
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    delete things but afterwards I also show
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    you how to add things okay so then we
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    have here a Waits time again so when it
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    when this is completed the rig has to
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    wait again until we are 20 minutes
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    before astronomical dusk then we go on
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    with the preparation of the target
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    so we ask now the rig to slew to the
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    Target
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    based on the target we entered on top of
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    here
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    and Center on it so it will now slew
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    plates off and ensure that it's within
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    the tolerance that we already given once
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    this is done we ask that the guiding is
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    started we can also say if a calibration
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    has to be done each time and that's in
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    principle if you leave your guide scope
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    alone
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    it's no need if you only need to do it
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    the first time and then we ask you to do
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    an autofocus again if you have an
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    electronic autofocuser otherwise you
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    know how to delete it once it's all done
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    we are centered on the target we are
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    guiding we are in Focus so we're
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    actually ready in principle to shoot But
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    It's Not Dark Yet so we wait until it's
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    about 10 minutes before astronomical
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    dusk and that's now the time when we're
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    ready to shoot and now comes our
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    shooting sequence here and now here you
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    see a lot of triggers and also Some
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    Loops so what do we State here in the
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    triggers we state that please autofocus
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    after an HFR increase so if the stars
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    get bigger by an amount of 10 percent
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    then please autofocus again because that
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    might one of the reason why we have a
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    bigger HFR also please autofocus after a
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    temperature change
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    every time the temperature changes by 2
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    degrees it autofocuses then we also tell
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    it to Center off the drift so this will
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    be evaluated after each exposure and if
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    the drift is bigger than two arc minutes
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    it reads loose so that we're always
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    exactly at the same place and if there's
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    anything that stops the clock hiding
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    like the re-slowing and so on WE State
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    restore The Guiding before we start
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    shooting so these are all the triggers
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    now there's a loop we State please shoot
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    continue shooting until it's nautical
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    done because then it's not dark anymore
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    so please stop shooting and now finally
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    finally
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    we are ready to shoot
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    and what I give you in my template are
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    three shooting sequences if you have
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    different filters or one different
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    exposures but again if you do not need
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    all three you can delete them now
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    there's only two so in each line we
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    State now what we want and this is every
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    time obviously different so for example
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    here
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    we State we want to have 50 pictures
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    by 60 seconds these are lights
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    we leave the binning at one gain and
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    offset is already entered by the camera
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    settings
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    filter if you have a filter wheel you
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    can choose it now for example for this
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    iucent Leo
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    and you want to dither every for example
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    two exposures afterwards I want to have
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    another 50 pictures also 60 seconds but
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    this time with the color magic filter
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    again I did every two time
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    and that's it so what's going to happen
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    now it starts shooting after each photo
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    it takes it goes up here did the edge of
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    our change did the temperature change
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    did we have a drift
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    and if it has it autofocuses or it reads
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    loose
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    and then it continues every second photo
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    it did There's once it has down the 50
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    pictures here it goes down that's the 50
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    picture with the other filter
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    and now you know what happens there's a
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    loop so if there's still enough time it
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    goes up again here starts to shoot again
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    with the unclear then with the color
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    magic and so on and it does this Loop
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    until there's nautical Dawn and once
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    nautical Dawn comes it jumps down here
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    then we say please stop guiding now
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    Park the scope now as I have an eagle
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    five I can also say it to stop to do
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    heater then it warms the camera up and
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    once the camera is warmed up I also
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    switch off the energy to the camera to
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    save electricity to save the camera and
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    then my sequence is done and nothing is
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    happening anymore
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    so that is a whole sequence and as you
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    can see it's not that difficult
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    especially when you already have such a
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    template now but what if you want to add
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    something for that we go to instructions
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    and you will see there's a lot of
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    instruction and actually there's even
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    more if you go up here on this icon you
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    see some icons that are red and these I
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    actually
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    this activated so you can go down
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    and you can say oh I don't have a dome
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    for example
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    because I don't have a dome so you just
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    click on them
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    that they're red and they will not
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    appear so you only leave the one which
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    have some relevance to you everything
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    else you just cross out and at the end
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    you click here the icon again
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    and so you really only work with the
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    stuff that you want to work with now for
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    example you say well actually
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    right after the autofocus here I want to
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    already take one exposure so just as a
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    test exposure then I see how it will
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    look like so we can actually go here say
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    take exposure by the camera
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    and I just take it
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    and drag and drop throw it in here see
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    time it's also 60 seconds and that's
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    done another example you might have a
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    mount where you need to do a Meridian
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    flip so you go here to telescope you see
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    here Meridian flip it's this Arrow which
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    means it's a trigger and I just throw it
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    here by the triggers
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    and so it will be done when it's
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    actually needed when and how to do a
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    Meridian flip you're already defined in
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    the settings and there are also easier
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    things for example here Loop until time
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    instead of an article down you can also
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    say sunset or you can simply enter time
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    sometimes I do that if for example I
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    only want to shoot one object and at one
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    point this actually is too low to shoot
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    then I choose Center here the number
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    until two o'clock in the morning for
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    example now it shoots until then so I
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    really encourage you to play around with
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    this and really look at them it this is
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    not a program language this is really
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    all clear text and even there are a lot
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    of things you can actually change it all
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    makes pretty much sense if not you see
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    there's some help text which explains it
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    to you and so you will get the hang of
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    it pretty fast now you might have the
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    question so what if I want to shoot two
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    Targets in one night you can actually
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    use more than one of these sequences so
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    you go all down I go back to templates
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    take my default again
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    and I just throw it below now here I
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    would now enter Target
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    I would argue I would enter another
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    Target and there's obviously now a few
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    modifications which you have to do
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    mostly that you would actually delete
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    here the first sequence or the end part
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    it's gone there's also a few things
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    in the second one which you do not have
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    to do anymore the wait time on Park all
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    this stuff the whole equipment you can
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    actually delete that but once you have
  • 00:18:22
    done that
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    everything's fine so Loop until time so
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    you stayed Now by time until when it
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    actually should Loop for this first
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    object and as soon as it's finished here
  • 00:18:35
    it goes down into the second sequence
  • 00:18:37
    and starts to shoot there and so you can
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    do that with as many objects in one
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    night as you want to
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    so I hope you agree that it's not that
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    difficult and from now on your computer
  • 00:18:50
    will do the work and you will enjoy the
  • 00:18:53
    safe time the template that I mentioned
  • 00:18:55
    is available in the link below and if
  • 00:18:58
    you feel it's helpful and you want to
  • 00:18:59
    support the Channel please also have a
  • 00:19:01
    look in description below there's a link
  • 00:19:04
    to my patreon channel you also get a lot
  • 00:19:06
    of additional workflows and cheat sheets
  • 00:19:08
    for the price of a coffee see you next
  • 00:19:10
    time and clears guys
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