Is the Glove80 Still Worth It in 2025?

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概要

TLDRIn this video review, the content creator discusses their experience with the Glove 80 keyboard after over a year of daily use. They emphasize its ergonomic design, which has notably helped manage their RSI. Despite temporary switches to other keyboards, the comfort of the Glove 80 remains unmatched. The reviewer highlights issues with the tenting mechanism and the sliding of the keyboard, attributing some problems to adjustable legs. They also note improvements in the keyboard's documentation but express a desire for easier layout configuration. Ultimately, they recommend the Glove 80 as a great tool for serious typists, despite its premium price.

収穫

  • 🔑 The Glove 80 excels in ergonomics.
  • 🖥️ Long-term usage offers insights that short-term use may miss.
  • 🛠️ Tenting mechanism can be frustrating due to adjustment issues.
  • 👌 Great for managing RSI despite some drawbacks.
  • 📚 Documentation for setup has improved significantly.
  • 💡 Suggestions for better integrated pointing devices and refined mounting.
  • 💰 It's a worthwhile investment for serious typists.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker reflects on their long-term use of the Glove 80 keyboard, sharing that it has been over a year since their initial review. Despite experiencing issues with RSI, the Glove 80 remains their daily driver due to its superior ergonomics compared to other keyboards. They compare it favorably against alternatives like the Voyager and the Digma Defy, which they appreciate but find less comfortable overall. Key ergonomic features of the Glove 80 are emphasized, underscoring its design for long-term comfort.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The speaker discusses the challenges with the Glove 80's tenting mechanism, expressing frustration over its adjustability and the need for screws. They highlight the difficulty in experimenting with different setups, which discourages trying out various ergonomic configurations. They also point out issues with the keyboard sliding on certain surfaces, attributing it in part to the legs' improper adjustments. The speaker concludes that despite these drawbacks, the benefits of the Glove 80 in managing RSI outweigh the negatives, reinforcing its value as a daily driver.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    In discussing improvements over time, the speaker mentions enhancements in the documentation provided by the manufacturer, making the user experience more friendly and accessible. They do note that despite these improvements, switching keyboard layouts remains cumbersome, particularly for power users who need frequent adjustments. Comparisons are made to other keyboards that offer more user-friendly design for layout changes, indicating a frustration with the Glove 80's configuration process, but they still recommend it highly for those with specific typing needs.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:23:14

    The speaker concludes by suggesting potential improvements for a future version of the Glove 80, such as a more compact design, better battery longevity, and a refined mounting system. They emphasize the need for an integrated pointing device as a significant upgrade that could enhance usability. The video wraps up with an invitation for viewers to leave comments or questions, reflecting an open and engaged approach to audience interaction regarding their experiences with the keyboard.

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ビデオQ&A

  • What are the key features of the Glove 80 keyboard?

    The Glove 80 is known for its ergonomic design, traditional key switches, and long-term comfort.

  • What issues did the reviewer face with the Glove 80?

    The reviewer experienced issues with the tenting mechanism and adjustable legs, which were finicky and could lead the keyboard to slide on the desk.

  • Has the keyboard layout configurator improved since the initial review?

    The reviewer mentioned that the documentation has improved significantly, making it more user-friendly and better organized.

  • Is the Glove 80 worth the investment?

    Yes, according to the reviewer, it significantly helps manage RSI and is an investment in long-term health for those who rely on typing.

  • What improvements does the reviewer suggest for the Glove 80?

    Suggestions include a more refined mounting system, integrated pointing devices, and a larger battery.

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    so it's been well over a year since I
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    did my initial review of the glove 80 I
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    think my review came out in November of
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    20123 it's now March of 2025 so that is
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    more than a year but I also switch back
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    to the Voyager for a little while and
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    even though I really enjoyed that
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    keyboard and that keyboard still has a
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    special place in my heart I still had
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    issues with RSI and so I I switched back
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    to the glove 80 and at this point it has
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    been over a year even though there's
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    been some chunks broken up in there such
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    as when I switched to the digma defi to
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    do a review for that keyboard but I
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    guess my point is that overall I have
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    used this keyboard well the glove 80 cuz
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    I guess I also have this one I just have
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    keyboards coming out of the Shadows at
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    this point but my point is that I've
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    been using the glove 80 for well over a
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    year at this point as my daily driver so
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    I just wanted to talk about some things
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    that you might not notice uh until
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    you've used the keyboard the glove 80
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    for a longer period of time so long-term
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    comfort and ergonomics that's like one
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    of the the top things with this keyboard
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    I've said multiple times that I believe
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    this is in my opinion the most ergonomic
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    keyboard that you can currently find on
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    the market at least for keyboards that
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    have traditional key switches like you
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    know you find on the glove 80 and not
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    something like the data hand or the Sal
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    board or the Master Forge or the car
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    recorder I'm still waiting to get my
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    Master Forge that I ordered last June
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    almost coming up on it seems like a year
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    by the time I receive it it probably
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    will be closer to a year since I ordered
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    that keyboard but this is not about the
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    Master Forge this is about the glove 80
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    so yeah even in the last couple weeks
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    that I've been testing the cribis and I
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    talked about the cribis a little bit in
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    my last video and talked about how
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    awesome this track ball is and that the
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    track ball could honestly be the thing
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    that gets me to switch from the glove 80
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    to to the cribis and just make the
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    cribis my my daily driver but even with
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    that said when I have gone back to type
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    on the glove 80 which I've done like a
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    couple times prior to uh recording this
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    video I did some typing on it and the
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    the experience is just is night and day
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    even with the cribis being having a
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    concave key well going back to the glove
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    80 is like I I can't quite Des Des cribe
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    just how much more comfortable this
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    keyboard is and I know there are third
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    party Solutions you can get to like add
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    a trackpad or I think even maybe a track
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    ball definitely the trackpad I noticed
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    that one back when I made my review of
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    the glove 80 but it's a thirdparty
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    solution and honestly I've not
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    researched how how this is done but I'm
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    pretty sure like I I'd have to imagine
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    that you'd have to access the GPO pins
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    on the microcontroller in order to
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    install that that third party solution
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    for the the the trackpad which you know
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    has some risk involved although you know
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    I do have two glove 80s so if I mess up
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    one of them then I still have the other
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    one but on top of potentially damaging a
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    good keyboard by accessing the GPI op
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    pins that voids the warranty on the
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    board so if anything else happens to it
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    that is of no fault of your own then uh
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    you're kind of out of luck so maybe a
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    future project and that that would be
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    really fun in my initial review video
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    one of the things that I was pretty
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    critical of was the tenting mechanism
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    that they have on the the glove 80 and
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    yeah that that still stands in fact if
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    anything I I became more frustrated by
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    the the tenting as time went on in my
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    review video I mentioned that mounted
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    had become my preferred setup and when I
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    said that I spoke too soon because like
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    honestly like that is still something
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    that I want to work but there were some
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    hurdles that I just I could not get over
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    in particular having the the mouse just
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    like way too far away from you because
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    when you mount the keyboard on your
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    chair it it pushes you back further away
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    from your desk and unless you have some
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    kind of uh like platform or something to
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    the side of you where you can hold a
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    mouse then like there's no way around it
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    the fact of the matter is is that you
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    know we we have to use mice and there's
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    some people that um use the the the
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    mouse keys on the keyboard and like no
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    no thank you don't want to I just no
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    that's that's not for me I I kind of do
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    just want a proper pointing device and
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    mounted made that really difficult but
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    yeah like going back to just the the
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    whole tenting mechanism like you you
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    have to screw these these legs on and
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    you have to get the the leg Heights like
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    just right and and they're they're not
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    the same lengths either like you see
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    that this leg uh right here is shorter
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    than this one right here which is a
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    different length than this one if the
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    camera will stop focusing on my face but
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    the point is that it's like it's so
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    finicky to like deal with the legs and
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    get them just the the right length at at
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    just the right angle that I like that I
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    don't want to touch it once I set it up
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    and it was it just it felt
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    disincentivizing to experiment with
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    different setups and because it was so
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    hard to experiment with because I would
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    have to take the legs off and then put
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    on the the mounting plate and screw
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    everything back on to attach the
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    mounting plate and then when I was done
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    experimenting and needed to you know get
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    some actual work done because my my back
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    was killing me from reaching up and
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    using my mouse all the time I had have
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    to unscrew all the legs take the plate
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    off put the legs back on tighten
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    everything down make sure it was the
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    right length and yeah can can you tell
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    that I am I'm not super happy with with
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    the mounting solution I might be being
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    too hard because most people uh let's be
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    honest are not going to to mount their
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    keyboards to their chair and and once
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    you do get the the right adjustments on
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    it then it is good however there is kind
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    of another problem with that this was
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    not meant to be a big long rant on why I
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    I don't like the the mounting system on
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    this keyboard I I'm just passionate
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    because I care but if you've been
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    looking into the glove 80 you may have
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    come across some people expressing
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    concerns about uh how the the keyboard
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    slides around on the desk and it doesn't
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    just stay in one spot I believe in large
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    part that is due to improperly adjusted
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    legs on the keyboard because if you get
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    one of these legs adjusted just a little
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    bit off then that can make it start to
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    slide and if you get the adjustment just
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    right then you'll see that it it won't
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    slide around and I actually had this
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    experience where I I went into the
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    office usually I work from home and at
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    home my desk has a like a faux leather
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    mat on it where the keyboard usually
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    stays perfect ly fine perfectly still in
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    in the spot that I want it to be in but
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    this was not the case at my desk at work
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    and on that particular day I didn't
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    bring my little spanner wrench thing so
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    that I I could adjust the legs and my
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    keyboard was sliding around the the desk
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    at my office like crazy and it it was
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    driving me crazy and I couldn't do
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    anything about it because I didn't have
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    the stupid little wrench to adjust the
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    legs but with all that said that still
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    would not have dissuaded me from using
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    this as my daily driver because it has
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    solved so many other issues for me with
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    uh helping manage my RSI that is totally
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    worth the tradeoff and I think that kind
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    of sums up my experience with this
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    keyboard not the horrible bad stuff but
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    this keyboard has been very much like a
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    utilitarian device for me where the like
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    the Voyager that keyboard it it like
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    makes me want to type on it it it's it's
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    like it's it's a fun experience the same
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    thing with the the moonlander uh right
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    there like the moonlander is a really
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    fun keyboard to type on and then the the
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    digma Defy is also like it's great the
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    RGB on that thing is is is it's really
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    cool it it makes me want to use that
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    keyboard in fact I I haven't mentioned
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    this uh because I haven't been uh making
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    a lot of videos lately but I have
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    actually used the digma toy uh probably
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    I've put in hundreds of hours on that
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    keyboard and I know that for sure
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    because
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    um I may have had a little bit of um a
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    gaming problem uh and got addicted to
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    some video games and yeah that that
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    keyboard was definitely an enabler for
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    me and I have the proof that uh because
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    when I did play games I was on that
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    keyboard and uh not going to share my my
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    stats from from Steam but yeah great
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    keyboard for playing video games on this
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    one not so much but other than that the
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    the whole tenting mechanism thing I have
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    very few complaints about this keyboard
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    but a lot of Praises okay there there's
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    one more thing that that bugs me and it
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    has to do with the these little rubber
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    pads on the bottom of the feet and I
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    also have this problem on the the
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    moonlander where over time these little
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    pads they would start to to slip off and
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    as they did that like they they fill up
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    with Gunk and they don't stick very well
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    like this just this foot this rubber pad
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    came off super super easily and I
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    remember talking about this in my review
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    of the the moonlander as as well but you
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    can see uh that like that foot right
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    there it it looks super gunked up and
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    like over time it just started to to
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    peel off and Gunk up with stuff but it
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    would just it would be nice to to have a
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    more robust solution something that that
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    would not require them sending you with
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    with with extra pads that I have
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    honestly gone through quite quickly okay
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    I've actually been using them for other
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    stuff uh such as the the bottom of the
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    the cribis so uh yeah that's not totally
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    on them oh speaking of which I I should
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    not I should not talk about this because
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    this is for the gloating not the cribis
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    but can can can you we just take a
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    moment to uh appreciate this what I have
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    here this is a quick release plate so
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    that I can have this keyboard mounted
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    and I can easily switch between having
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    this keyboard just sitting on my desk
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    and pulling it off and grabbing the the
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    other half of the the quick release
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    system which I totally stole from the
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    the glove 80 and putting it on there and
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    then taking this clamping it to to my
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    desk or to my chair or whatever um still
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    working out some Kinks here it's a
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    little harder with the crib disc because
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    there there's cables going everywhere
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    because the the two halves are not
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    connected via Bluetooth and it's not
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    battery powered so I have to keep it
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    plugged in and basically I am just a a
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    sad sad person who is trying to make a
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    dream come alive but I'm part of the way
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    there with having the quick release
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    Plate System thingy integrated into the
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    the the the thing I I'm I'm past using
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    technical terms here anyway um yeah
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    let's see what else has changed over the
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    last year I still do not use Moo's uh
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    layout configurator that they have for
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    the glove 80 I was not super impressed
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    with it when I I used it back in
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    November of 2023 and I honestly I
  • 00:11:42
    haven't really looked at it so I I don't
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    know it could be light years better and
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    be the the most advanced keyboard layout
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    configurator that they've ever created
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    and I I honestly would not know because
  • 00:11:54
    I just used this other third party
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    solution that works with zmk and I've
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    been really happy with it plus it has
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    dark mode but one thing I can say has
  • 00:12:04
    definitely improved is the documentation
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    that Mo Ergo has for the keyboard
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    because there's a lot of things about
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    this keyboard that like you just
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    wouldn't think you would need to know
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    about a keyboard the the glove 80 like
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    it is geared toward power users so it's
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    not something that you just typically
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    pull out and start using like it does
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    require some setup and the documentation
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    I have when I made the review of the
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    glove 80 was a giant PDF it was like I
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    don't remember how long like 30 pages of
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    of just dense information but it looks
  • 00:12:41
    like they've improved this by a lot and
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    if you go on their website their
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    documentation is searchable and it's
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    friendly to use like it looks good it's
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    presented more nicely it's broken up in
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    good sections and yeah a lot of high
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    price for them for actually going in in
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    focusing on making that user experience
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    a lot better but all of that aside I I
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    do have to admit that you know over time
  • 00:13:05
    you settle on what you want your layout
  • 00:13:09
    to be and and you spend less and less
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    time going into the configurator and and
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    making a change and reflashing your
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    keyboard and going through that whole
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    Dance and yeah over time it it just
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    became something that I didn't have to
  • 00:13:21
    think about which was kind of nice but
  • 00:13:23
    at the same time I do wish that it was a
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    little easier to do experimentation
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    ations just like on the-fly kind of
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    stuff uh with making changes to your
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    layout and that's not something that
  • 00:13:36
    some of these keyboards that are like I
  • 00:13:39
    said geared more toward power users it
  • 00:13:41
    it doesn't really lend itself very well
  • 00:13:44
    for that use case so in in that regard
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    like it it's it's totally fine it is a
  • 00:13:50
    potential frustration but it's not a
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    deal breaker if you're in a profession
  • 00:13:55
    or you know do a job where you're doing
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    a lot of typing and feeling discomfort
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    from RSI or even debilitating RSI then
  • 00:14:03
    like I I don't think you can get better
  • 00:14:05
    than this keyboard but if you're not in
  • 00:14:07
    that demographic and you just want like
  • 00:14:09
    a a good keyboard then I would totally
  • 00:14:12
    recommend like go going for the the
  • 00:14:14
    digma defy which which is really nice
  • 00:14:17
    because you can make those changes
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    pretty much on the fly like as soon as
  • 00:14:20
    you make the change in the software that
  • 00:14:23
    change immediately takes effect on the
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    keyboard which is is really nice or
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    there is of course the Voyager which is
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    still like such it it's like it is it's
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    a great keyboard and part of what makes
  • 00:14:34
    it a great keyboard is the great
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    software you can't make on the flight
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    changes like you can with the digma defy
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    but you still can make changes a lot
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    easier and the user experience is way
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    more friendly than trying to do the same
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    thing on the Cav or the the cribis or
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    the the Cali 42 which is up there or the
  • 00:14:55
    the Kinesis Advantage 360 pro which I I
  • 00:14:58
    complained about
  • 00:14:59
    quite a bit and honestly I I was
  • 00:15:01
    probably too harsh on them because uh it
  • 00:15:03
    just seems to be a category of of
  • 00:15:06
    keyboard where if you want to get the
  • 00:15:08
    most out of the keyboard you really you
  • 00:15:11
    kind of have to go write your own layout
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    in in code and and compile it on your
  • 00:15:17
    computer or go the route of of waiting
  • 00:15:20
    and excruciating like 3 minutes for a
  • 00:15:23
    GitHub action to run on your repository
  • 00:15:26
    when you push a change to the repository
  • 00:15:28
    there are definitely trade-offs that you
  • 00:15:30
    need to consider when looking at one of
  • 00:15:32
    these types of keyboards so do I still
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    think that the glove 80 is worth it here
  • 00:15:36
    in March of 2025 and the answer is
  • 00:15:40
    absolutely and I'm not I don't have an
  • 00:15:42
    affiliate link I'm not getting paid to
  • 00:15:43
    say this like this is such a comfortable
  • 00:15:47
    keyboard and unfortunately it it still
  • 00:15:50
    is quite an investment to get one of
  • 00:15:52
    these keyboards because it is a niche
  • 00:15:54
    market these keyboards do tend to run
  • 00:15:57
    more expensive than just like a cheapo
  • 00:15:59
    keyboard that you can get off of of
  • 00:16:01
    Amazon but you also don't get a keyboard
  • 00:16:04
    like this because you're just checking
  • 00:16:05
    out the the latest fad you do it because
  • 00:16:08
    you're investing in your long-term
  • 00:16:09
    health for a career that you you rely on
  • 00:16:13
    your fingers for and I'll end by giving
  • 00:16:15
    my wish list for this keyboard if there
  • 00:16:18
    were to be like a a version two of the
  • 00:16:21
    glove 80 I've seen this set a lot in
  • 00:16:23
    comments and other places on the
  • 00:16:25
    internet I would love to see a keyboard
  • 00:16:28
    with a smaller layout that still has the
  • 00:16:30
    the concave Key Well the the function
  • 00:16:32
    keys we we we can get rid of the
  • 00:16:34
    function keys and I would say the same
  • 00:16:36
    thing actually with the thumb cluster I
  • 00:16:39
    would kind of like to see a more compact
  • 00:16:41
    version of the glove 80 like a glove 80
  • 00:16:44
    light that doesn't have the function
  • 00:16:45
    keys and has fewer thumb Keys cuz there
  • 00:16:49
    there is kind of that like little shelf
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    right there where the the top row is
  • 00:16:53
    just a little bit higher than the the
  • 00:16:55
    bottom row of the the thumb cluster and
  • 00:16:57
    I think I could honestly do with just
  • 00:17:00
    three keys on there just don't pull a
  • 00:17:02
    voyager and only have two keys on the
  • 00:17:04
    thumb cluster as much as I adore that
  • 00:17:07
    keyboard the the two keys on the thumb
  • 00:17:10
    cluster just like oh come on like I wish
  • 00:17:13
    it was three but yeah I I I digress the
  • 00:17:16
    the other thing that is on my wish list
  • 00:17:18
    for the glove 80 would be to have a
  • 00:17:20
    bigger battery and I'm speaking from
  • 00:17:22
    ignorance here I for for all I know zmk
  • 00:17:25
    is like some really power hungry
  • 00:17:27
    firmware that uh know does something
  • 00:17:30
    with RGB that just makes it it die
  • 00:17:32
    faster I don't know I kind of doubt that
  • 00:17:34
    though I I bet I bet it just needs a
  • 00:17:36
    bigger battery and and I say that
  • 00:17:38
    because the the digma defi up there that
  • 00:17:41
    thing can last with the RGB for both the
  • 00:17:44
    underglow now now I can't think of what
  • 00:17:46
    what it's called but this this underglow
  • 00:17:49
    as well as this underglow under the keys
  • 00:17:51
    I know there there's a name to
  • 00:17:53
    differentiate the two but the the point
  • 00:17:55
    is that like this can be a a full
  • 00:17:57
    brightness and last for an entire
  • 00:17:59
    workday but in my review video I
  • 00:18:01
    mentioned that this thing when I had the
  • 00:18:05
    RGB brightness on a really low setting
  • 00:18:09
    it still died after like five
  • 00:18:12
    hours five hours like I don't know a
  • 00:18:15
    bigger battery come on already talked
  • 00:18:17
    about the uh tenting mechanism I I just
  • 00:18:20
    I feel like there is a solution out
  • 00:18:24
    there where the the tenting mechanism
  • 00:18:27
    works well enough for the majority of
  • 00:18:30
    the population but isn't quite as
  • 00:18:32
    frustrating to use and I totally get why
  • 00:18:34
    they did it because this is like very
  • 00:18:37
    much optimizing for being able to have
  • 00:18:39
    the the best angle the most ergonomic
  • 00:18:42
    setup that you can get but I I just feel
  • 00:18:45
    like you know if if we're looking at
  • 00:18:47
    like a a pedo front or poo curve or
  • 00:18:51
    whatever that is you know
  • 00:18:53
    multi-objective optimization there
  • 00:18:55
    there's got to be a spot on that that
  • 00:18:58
    curve of
  • 00:18:59
    efficiency where you can optimize for
  • 00:19:03
    convenience and ergonomics or ease of
  • 00:19:06
    use it just feels like they way over
  • 00:19:08
    optimized for having the the most
  • 00:19:11
    ergonomic setup that you possibly can
  • 00:19:13
    get and I think I'm probably beating
  • 00:19:15
    this point to to death so let's move on
  • 00:19:19
    to another thing that I've already
  • 00:19:21
    mentioned which is the integrated
  • 00:19:23
    trackpad or track ball this is something
  • 00:19:25
    else that I would love to see uh in in
  • 00:19:29
    or or try out with the Nia create and
  • 00:19:32
    some of you have been asking about that
  • 00:19:34
    keyboard if I'm going to review that
  • 00:19:35
    keyboard and the the fact of the matter
  • 00:19:38
    is it costs almost
  • 00:19:41
    $1,000 for the keyboard and when I'm not
  • 00:19:44
    sure if it's you know going to be like
  • 00:19:47
    my forever keyboard and I don't make
  • 00:19:50
    that much money from this YouTube
  • 00:19:51
    channel like it's it's a really steep
  • 00:19:54
    price for me to to get that keyboard
  • 00:19:57
    unfortunately so it remains on my list
  • 00:19:59
    of a keyboard that I really really want
  • 00:20:02
    to try but it'll have to be sometime in
  • 00:20:04
    the future but regardless the idea of
  • 00:20:07
    having an integrated pointing device in
  • 00:20:09
    the keyboard just it it makes so much
  • 00:20:12
    sense like why why have we not been
  • 00:20:14
    thinking about this already I mean okay
  • 00:20:16
    yeah I I know why we haven't been
  • 00:20:17
    thinking about it because it just I mean
  • 00:20:19
    okay split keyboards are
  • 00:20:21
    already it's its own little world but
  • 00:20:25
    putting a a track ball inside of it is
  • 00:20:28
    Maybe maybe pushing it a little too much
  • 00:20:31
    for some people I may maybe I don't know
  • 00:20:34
    but having tried it with the cibus like
  • 00:20:37
    h i I keep I keep talking about this I
  • 00:20:39
    keep coming back to this because it it's
  • 00:20:42
    just it it's like duh like why why have
  • 00:20:46
    we not been thinking about having
  • 00:20:49
    integrated pointing devices and
  • 00:20:51
    keyboards it it makes so much sense and
  • 00:20:54
    I know people have been thinking about
  • 00:20:56
    it but it's definitely not a thought
  • 00:20:57
    that enters the the mainstream
  • 00:21:00
    Consciousness so like I've said many
  • 00:21:02
    times already I I know that there is the
  • 00:21:04
    third party solution but it would be
  • 00:21:07
    really great to see a first-party
  • 00:21:09
    solution from moero for some kind of
  • 00:21:12
    tracking device that you can attached to
  • 00:21:15
    the glove 80 or just come out with a
  • 00:21:17
    different version of the glove 80 that
  • 00:21:19
    has this amazing key well but an option
  • 00:21:22
    to integrate a a pointing device into or
  • 00:21:25
    onto the keyboard and then the the last
  • 00:21:28
    thing the last last uh wish list item in
  • 00:21:31
    this uh part of the video that's
  • 00:21:33
    becoming much longer than I probably
  • 00:21:35
    intended it to be is a more refined
  • 00:21:38
    mounting system these are all basically
  • 00:21:40
    just ideas solutions that that I I want
  • 00:21:43
    to see for the things that I was
  • 00:21:45
    complaining about but yeah the the
  • 00:21:47
    mounting system while it is possible it
  • 00:21:50
    it just it doesn't feel good it it feels
  • 00:21:53
    unrefined and it could just it could be
  • 00:21:57
    so much better even just having
  • 00:21:58
    something like if you know on the the
  • 00:22:00
    bottom of the the keyboard I don't know
  • 00:22:03
    if it would be possible but if you could
  • 00:22:05
    have like little cutouts in there that
  • 00:22:07
    are compatible with the the arctis Swiss
  • 00:22:10
    plate if I'm saying that right this
  • 00:22:12
    thing right here it's got a name I'm
  • 00:22:15
    pretty sure it's a arctis Swiss plate
  • 00:22:17
    then yeah like that that would be that
  • 00:22:19
    would be great and there's there's space
  • 00:22:21
    there's space on there you could get it
  • 00:22:23
    in there and just like integrate
  • 00:22:25
    something like directly into the body of
  • 00:22:27
    the keyboard just to to make mounting a
  • 00:22:29
    little easier I I don't know I I would
  • 00:22:32
    appreciate it all the weird people like
  • 00:22:34
    me who want to have a a chair mounted
  • 00:22:38
    keyboard we would appreciate it okay
  • 00:22:40
    anyway that wraps it up for this video
  • 00:22:43
    if there was something I didn't cover or
  • 00:22:45
    a question you have that I didn't answer
  • 00:22:47
    then you know put it in the comments and
  • 00:22:49
    I will do my best to answer you before I
  • 00:22:54
    you know lose interest after a couple
  • 00:22:55
    weeks and then I totally forget about
  • 00:22:57
    this video that I you know ever made
  • 00:22:58
    made this video but you know if if you
  • 00:23:00
    do relatively soon then I'm sure I'll
  • 00:23:03
    I'm I'm I'm sure I'll get around to it
  • 00:23:05
    and with that confidence inspiring
  • 00:23:06
    speech uh I hope you have a good day
  • 00:23:08
    thanks for tuning in and uh yeah I'll
  • 00:23:11
    see you in the next one
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