APS Award Address: Strangers to Ourselves
概要
TLDRA palestra aborda a importância do autoconhecimento, destacando sua relevância na literatura, filosofia e psicologia. O palestrante menciona que, apesar de ser um tema central em várias áreas, o autoconhecimento não recebeu a devida atenção na psicologia até recentemente. Ele explora três tipos de autoconhecimento: o conhecimento do eu passado, do eu presente e do eu futuro. O palestrante discute como a memória e as teorias pessoais influenciam a percepção do passado, além de abordar a precisão do autoconhecimento e suas implicações. Ele enfatiza a necessidade de construir uma narrativa coerente sobre si mesmo e a importância de considerar diferentes fontes de informação para alcançar um autoconhecimento mais preciso.
収穫
- 🧠 O autoconhecimento é crucial na literatura e na psicologia.
- 📚 A memória é um processo construtivo, não uma gravação precisa.
- 🔍 A introspecção tem limitações e não é o único caminho para o autoconhecimento.
- ⏳ Conhecer nosso eu passado, presente e futuro é fundamental.
- 🤔 A precisão do autoconhecimento pode ter consequências positivas e negativas.
- 👥 A perspectiva de outras pessoas pode enriquecer nosso autoconhecimento.
- 📖 Construir uma narrativa coerente sobre si mesmo é importante.
- 😂 Um bom senso de humor ajuda a lidar com a realidade da vida.
- 🔄 As previsões sobre o futuro muitas vezes são imprecisas.
- 💡 O autoconhecimento deve ser baseado em dados e teorias bem fundamentadas.
タイムライン
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
O palestrante expressa gratidão pelo prêmio e esclarece que o título de sua palestra, 'estranhos para nós mesmos', é o mesmo de um álbum da banda Modest Mouse, mas que ele usou o título primeiro em seu livro. Ele discute a importância do autoconhecimento na literatura e na vida cotidiana, mencionando que, apesar de ser um tema relevante, não é amplamente abordado na psicologia.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Ele menciona a história da psicologia, destacando a divisão entre Freud e a psicanálise, que não utilizava métodos empíricos, e Kurt Lewin, que defendia a pesquisa empírica. O palestrante observa que, por décadas, o autoconhecimento foi negligenciado na psicologia, mas que isso está mudando.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
O palestrante propõe uma visão mais ampla do autoconhecimento, que inclui o conhecimento do eu passado, presente e futuro. Ele introduz três temas principais: a falácia do acesso direto, a construção teórica do autoconhecimento e a questão da precisão do autoconhecimento.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Ele começa a discutir o conhecimento do eu passado, explicando que a memória é um processo construtivo e que as pessoas tendem a reconstruir suas memórias de forma a se verem de maneira positiva. Ele menciona estudos que mostram que as pessoas muitas vezes não conseguem lembrar com precisão suas atitudes passadas.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
O palestrante apresenta um estudo que demonstra que as pessoas tendem a confabular suas memórias, ajustando-as com base em suas crenças atuais. Ele discute a ideia de que a incerteza sobre o passado pode ter consequências positivas, como a sensação de estabilidade.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Ele passa a discutir o conhecimento do eu presente, que é mais complicado de avaliar. O palestrante menciona que as pessoas podem ter dificuldade em relatar com precisão suas atitudes e crenças, e que isso pode ser desafiado por medidas implícitas e relatórios de amigos.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
O palestrante menciona que, em muitos casos, as pessoas não têm acesso direto a seus estados emocionais e que suas emoções podem ser influenciadas por fatores externos. Ele discute a construção de emoções e a dificuldade de reconhecer sentimentos reais em certas situações.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Ele aborda o conhecimento do eu futuro, explicando que as previsões sobre como nos sentiremos em eventos futuros são frequentemente imprecisas. O palestrante menciona a 'falácia do impacto', onde as pessoas superestimam a intensidade e a duração de suas emoções futuras.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:14
O palestrante conclui discutindo como podemos alcançar o autoconhecimento, enfatizando que a introspecção não é a única maneira. Ele sugere que devemos construir narrativas sobre nós mesmos com base em dados de várias fontes, incluindo observações de nosso comportamento e feedback de outras pessoas.
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ビデオQ&A
Qual é o tema principal da palestra?
O tema principal é a importância do autoconhecimento e suas diferentes dimensões.
Quais são os três tipos de autoconhecimento discutidos?
Os três tipos são: conhecimento do eu passado, do eu presente e do eu futuro.
Por que o autoconhecimento não recebeu muita atenção na psicologia?
Historicamente, o autoconhecimento foi associado a Freud e à psicanálise, o que levou a uma hesitação em estudá-lo de forma empírica.
O que é a 'falácia do acesso direto'?
É a ideia de que a introspecção é o caminho mais importante para o autoconhecimento, embora tenha suas limitações.
Como a memória influencia o autoconhecimento?
A memória é um processo construtivo, onde as pessoas muitas vezes inferem suas experiências passadas em vez de recordá-las com precisão.
Qual é a relação entre autoconhecimento e previsões sobre o futuro?
As previsões sobre como nos sentiremos no futuro são frequentemente imprecisas, levando a um viés de impacto.
O que o palestrante sugere para melhorar o autoconhecimento?
Ele sugere construir uma narrativa coerente sobre si mesmo, utilizando diversas fontes de informação.
Qual é a importância de considerar a perspectiva de outras pessoas no autoconhecimento?
Outras pessoas podem ter uma visão mais objetiva e precisa sobre nós, que pode enriquecer nosso autoconhecimento.
O que o palestrante diz sobre a precisão do autoconhecimento?
A precisão do autoconhecimento pode ser benéfica, mas também pode levar a consequências negativas se não for equilibrada.
Como o humor se relaciona com o autoconhecimento?
Um bom senso de humor pode ajudar a lidar com a realidade da vida e a manter uma perspectiva saudável sobre si mesmo.
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- 00:00:07well thank you it's great to be here and
- 00:00:09and uh I'm very appreciative of this
- 00:00:11wonderful award and let's just jump
- 00:00:14right into it uh I want to begin by
- 00:00:17clearing up some possible
- 00:00:18misunderstanding about the title of my
- 00:00:20talk strangers to ourselves those of you
- 00:00:22who are independent music fans may know
- 00:00:25that the group Modest Mouse issued an
- 00:00:28album with that same name name just a
- 00:00:30few weeks ago um after an 8-year Hiatus
- 00:00:34and you may think that I stole my title
- 00:00:37um from them
- 00:00:39but that was also the title of my book
- 00:00:41from a number of years ago and I have it
- 00:00:43on good authority that they actually
- 00:00:45named their album after my book so just
- 00:00:47to just to clear that
- 00:00:50up self- knowledge is obviously an
- 00:00:52important topic in literature uh
- 00:00:56personally philosophy everyday
- 00:00:58life the Oracle in Deli famously is
- 00:01:03inscribed with know
- 00:01:05thyself many of uh great literature
- 00:01:08including Shakespeare's tragedies have
- 00:01:10as its theme self- knowledge this is a
- 00:01:12scene from King Lear at the end of the
- 00:01:14play where he's holding his daughter
- 00:01:16Cordelia after her death realizing that
- 00:01:18what he really thought was important to
- 00:01:20him in life was was far from
- 00:01:23it it is the object of or the point of
- 00:01:26insight
- 00:01:28psychotherapies and and some forms of
- 00:01:31meditation have as their goal a better
- 00:01:33access to our our internal
- 00:01:35States but oddly it has not been a
- 00:01:38central Topic in Psychology at least not
- 00:01:41until recently there are no journals of
- 00:01:44self- knowledge no professional
- 00:01:46societies with that uh topic very few
- 00:01:50college courses as far as I know on on
- 00:01:52that topic exceptions are one that I
- 00:01:54teach and one that sine teaches at her
- 00:01:58University and the question is why and
- 00:02:01it I just want to spend a couple of
- 00:02:03seconds delving back to the history of
- 00:02:05psychology and talk about this fork in
- 00:02:08the road from uh the 1940s and 1950s
- 00:02:11where the topic of self- knowledge was
- 00:02:14most closely associated with Freud and
- 00:02:17psychoanalysis Freud however assed the
- 00:02:19the empirical method he thought that it
- 00:02:21wasn't really uh appropriate to study
- 00:02:24the mind through the scientific method
- 00:02:26the case method was what he preferred
- 00:02:29and in the 1950s Kurt Owen who you see
- 00:02:31on the right of your screen uh took a
- 00:02:34different fork and argued that we could
- 00:02:36study the mind and the social situation
- 00:02:39uh empirically as with great
- 00:02:41experimental techniques even so I think
- 00:02:44for the next few decades people were shy
- 00:02:46about studying such topics as self-
- 00:02:48knowledge and Consciousness partly out
- 00:02:51of fear that we'd be misidentified with
- 00:02:53that other fork and we be freudians and
- 00:02:56and unscientific and so it's not a topic
- 00:02:59that was addressed
- 00:03:00um much at all and there also I think
- 00:03:03some some important methodological
- 00:03:05reasons for that that I will touch on
- 00:03:07times are changing and that's a book
- 00:03:09that s and I edited a few years ago that
- 00:03:12has many excellent chapters on self-
- 00:03:16knowledge so uh what I want to do today
- 00:03:19is to give you a broad overview of this
- 00:03:21topic and what kind of research has
- 00:03:24addressed it what the major questions
- 00:03:26are in terms of an outline um there are
- 00:03:29three kinds of self- knowledge that I'll
- 00:03:31talk about I really want to consider
- 00:03:33this broad more broadly than it perhaps
- 00:03:35has in past treatments so when we think
- 00:03:39about self- knowledge usually we think
- 00:03:41of how aware we are of our current
- 00:03:43states and emotions and traits and that
- 00:03:45is indeed something I'll touch on uh but
- 00:03:48I want to begin by talking about how
- 00:03:50well we know our past selves which I
- 00:03:52think is an important form of self-
- 00:03:53knowledge do I know who I was um in the
- 00:03:56past in terms of what my attitudes and
- 00:03:58feelings were and also how well I know
- 00:04:02my future self am I accurate at uh
- 00:04:05predicting how I'll feel in the future
- 00:04:07who I will be in the future these are
- 00:04:09all important forms of self- knowledge I
- 00:04:12will close with a step back and talking
- 00:04:15about some bigger picture issues how can
- 00:04:17we achieve self- knowledge what does
- 00:04:19that mean um is it a good thing to
- 00:04:22Aspire
- 00:04:24to and there are three themes that I'm
- 00:04:27going to weave in on all these topics
- 00:04:29the first is what I call the direct
- 00:04:31access fallacy the idea that that the
- 00:04:35most important root to self- knowledge
- 00:04:37is Naval gazing
- 00:04:39introspection and although I think it's
- 00:04:41an important source of information it is
- 00:04:44uh not something which uh perhaps is the
- 00:04:47best path to self- knowledge because of
- 00:04:49the limits of introspection because of
- 00:04:51that the second theme is that uh self-
- 00:04:54knowledge much like our knowledge of the
- 00:04:55external world is a theory driven
- 00:04:58construction we have some information we
- 00:05:00have to put it together in some kind of
- 00:05:02coherent way using our theories as to
- 00:05:05who we are and the third theme is about
- 00:05:09accuracy a hotly debated question as to
- 00:05:11whether it's good or bad to have
- 00:05:13accurate self- knowledge and uh that's
- 00:05:15something I'll return to towards the end
- 00:05:17of the talk so let's begin with
- 00:05:20knowledge of our past self as we look
- 00:05:22back on who we were how we felt uh what
- 00:05:25kind of personality Trace we had is this
- 00:05:28something that we're accurate at
- 00:05:31uh and in terms of the Criterion just a
- 00:05:35quick methodological aside I think this
- 00:05:37one is pretty straightforward that the
- 00:05:39typical study U measures people's
- 00:05:41attitudes or beliefs or behaviors at
- 00:05:43time one let some time pass and then ask
- 00:05:46the person to recall what those
- 00:05:48attitudes or behaviors were so we have a
- 00:05:51pretty easy way of assessing self-
- 00:05:52knowledge here how accurately can I
- 00:05:55recall who I was in the past which the
- 00:05:58researcher has measured
- 00:06:00so the First theme the direct access
- 00:06:02fallacy I think applies here that that
- 00:06:04most of our memory is constructive
- 00:06:07particularly long-term memory it's not
- 00:06:09like all my attitudes and beliefs and
- 00:06:11traits are somehow a part of my brain
- 00:06:13where those are directly stored instead
- 00:06:15it's a constructive process where I I
- 00:06:17try to remember who I was and how I felt
- 00:06:20and I'm very much um inferring more than
- 00:06:24directly
- 00:06:27recalling much of what I'll have to say
- 00:06:29here was said many years ago by Michael
- 00:06:31Ross in a really great 1989 sect review
- 00:06:34paper in which he um talked about how
- 00:06:37memory for our past selves work and he
- 00:06:40basically made two points that we view
- 00:06:42the past through through the lens of the
- 00:06:44present so we first check how we feel
- 00:06:47now and then try to guess how we felt in
- 00:06:49the past and we apply theories as to
- 00:06:52whether we would we is reasonable to
- 00:06:54think that we have changed or
- 00:06:56not what are these theories well um as
- 00:07:00Tony Greenwald said a number of years
- 00:07:01ago one is uh that we're really good
- 00:07:04people that we're motivated historians
- 00:07:07we tend to reconstruct our pasts in ways
- 00:07:09that make us look good and favorable
- 00:07:12we're more have to remember our
- 00:07:13successes than our failures for
- 00:07:15example and another theory is that we're
- 00:07:18pretty stable people we have most of us
- 00:07:20have a sense that we don't change
- 00:07:22particularly much that it's not like uh
- 00:07:2510 years ago I was on one end of the
- 00:07:27political spectrum and now I'm on the
- 00:07:29opposite that regardless of what how I
- 00:07:31really felt that we tend to think no
- 00:07:33that people are are
- 00:07:35stable um and this applies to behavior
- 00:07:37and it leads to some interesting errors
- 00:07:39so uh there's a wellestablished finding
- 00:07:42in the political science literature that
- 00:07:44if you ask people who they voted for in
- 00:07:47previous elections say presidential
- 00:07:49elections many more people vote say they
- 00:07:52voted for the president than actually
- 00:07:53did and it appears that people um
- 00:07:57particularly if they support the
- 00:07:58candidate now
- 00:08:00they say surely I I must have voted for
- 00:08:02that person so even something as as
- 00:08:04discreet or you would think easy to
- 00:08:06remember as which lever I pressed in the
- 00:08:08voting booth people sometimes are
- 00:08:11inaccurate at recalling Michael Ross and
- 00:08:14the students had a nice demonstration of
- 00:08:15this in the laboratory where they gave
- 00:08:18people persuasive Communications arguing
- 00:08:21that it's really good to brush your
- 00:08:23teeth a lot or actually it hurts the
- 00:08:25anomaly you shouldn't brush your teeth
- 00:08:27that often and they were successful
- 00:08:29people change their minds in One
- 00:08:30Direction or the other and then they
- 00:08:32asked them well by the way how often
- 00:08:34have you brushed your teeth in the past
- 00:08:35few weeks and people's recall was
- 00:08:38influenced by this attitude change so if
- 00:08:41they now thought it was really good to
- 00:08:42brush your teeth yeah I've brushed my
- 00:08:44teeth a lot and if not well not so much
- 00:08:48and you know I think in these studies
- 00:08:49people were honestly trying to come up
- 00:08:51with the right answer just memory is a a
- 00:08:53constructive process the same is true of
- 00:08:56attitudes there's some well-known
- 00:08:58studies showing that you can change
- 00:09:00people's attitudes and they don't
- 00:09:01realize they've changed I'll tell you
- 00:09:03briefly about an old study of ours that
- 00:09:05showed this with a couple of wrinkles so
- 00:09:08in this study we um were interested
- 00:09:11partly in what people's theories were
- 00:09:13about how their attitudes Chang and so
- 00:09:15we first wanted to change their minds um
- 00:09:18with one of two techniques our
- 00:09:20participants were a group of college
- 00:09:22students who were all very opposed to
- 00:09:24the legalization of marijuana and then
- 00:09:27we tried to change that out ude in one
- 00:09:29of two ways we either gave them a
- 00:09:31well-crafted speech a persuasive
- 00:09:34communication or we had them listen to
- 00:09:36an audio tape with subliminal messages
- 00:09:38embedded in it and um so we had their
- 00:09:42attitudes measured at time one they're
- 00:09:44really against marijuana
- 00:09:46legalization time two a couple weeks
- 00:09:48later we give them one of these Attitude
- 00:09:50Change techniques and then we see if we
- 00:09:53were successful but relevant to this
- 00:09:55point I want to make now we also then
- 00:09:57asked them to recall how they had felt
- 00:09:59at time
- 00:10:01one and this is what we found on a
- 00:10:03ninepoint scale that goes from disagree
- 00:10:06strongly to agree strongly that
- 00:10:08marijuana should be legalized you can
- 00:10:10see these bars are very low because we
- 00:10:12selected people who we knew were very
- 00:10:14opposed to the legalization of marijuana
- 00:10:17this is how they felt at time one couple
- 00:10:19of weeks go by we give them either our
- 00:10:21speech or our subliminal message and as
- 00:10:25we expected the speech was actually much
- 00:10:27more successful at changing attitudes
- 00:10:29than the subliminal message so um for
- 00:10:32these kinds of studies that's big change
- 00:10:34you know they they didn't go above the
- 00:10:36midpoint but they now are two or three
- 00:10:38points more favorable towards the
- 00:10:40legalization of marijuana if they got
- 00:10:42our speech that difference in subliminal
- 00:10:45condition was not significant but again
- 00:10:47relevant to the point here we then asked
- 00:10:49them okay how did you feel at time one
- 00:10:51remember you came in you answered our
- 00:10:53attitude questionnaire and people pretty
- 00:10:56much how they felt now is how they think
- 00:10:58they felt
- 00:10:593 weeks ago so that yellow bar is
- 00:11:02actually not significantly different
- 00:11:04from the orange one and again with a
- 00:11:06subliminal speech not much change in in
- 00:11:08either direction so even though we we
- 00:11:11brought about pretty substantial change
- 00:11:13people didn't know that they had
- 00:11:17changed okay what about this third theme
- 00:11:19whether self- knowledge and of our past
- 00:11:22is good or bad um I think there probably
- 00:11:25are some positive consequences of
- 00:11:27inaccuracy if it produces
- 00:11:29a sense of stability that's probably a
- 00:11:32good thing one might argue um Dan
- 00:11:35Gilbert and and Jordy quad back and I
- 00:11:38published a paper about the end of
- 00:11:40History illusion that that where we are
- 00:11:42now we tend to think we've we've changed
- 00:11:44as much as we're ever going to change
- 00:11:46maybe we recognize we changed a little
- 00:11:48in the past but we tend to think of
- 00:11:49ourselves as stable uh stable beings and
- 00:11:53that probably is is reassuring in many
- 00:11:55ways but there may be some negative
- 00:11:58consequences and in fact that study with
- 00:12:00the marijuana attitudes one purpose of
- 00:12:02it was to uh see if people knew which of
- 00:12:06those two approaches would would change
- 00:12:08their attitudes the most so we had
- 00:12:10another group of participants who are
- 00:12:12also opposed to the legalization of
- 00:12:13marijuana and we said okay you can we're
- 00:12:16going to try to change your mind and
- 00:12:18which one would you rather get the
- 00:12:20persuasive communication or the
- 00:12:21subliminal messages people's theory was
- 00:12:24that subliminal messages are much more
- 00:12:26powerful so indeed 71% preferred to see
- 00:12:29the speech the very thing that was
- 00:12:32really successful at changing their
- 00:12:34attitudes so not knowing how all this
- 00:12:36works one might argue um is not such a
- 00:12:39good thing it can lead we can put
- 00:12:41ourselves in situations that lead to
- 00:12:43unwanted
- 00:12:46change okay so that's pretty much all I
- 00:12:49have to say about uh knowledge of our
- 00:12:51past memories
- 00:12:52reconstructive and accuracy probably a
- 00:12:54two-edged sort what about knowledge of
- 00:12:57our our current self again I think this
- 00:12:59is is what we usually mean by self-
- 00:13:00knowledge how well do I know what my own
- 00:13:03attitudes and beliefs are so that's
- 00:13:06where we are in the
- 00:13:09talk now this is a little more of a
- 00:13:12complicated question for a couple
- 00:13:14reasons one is it's it's more difficult
- 00:13:16methodologically so if I tell you that I
- 00:13:19think I'm mildly introverted on what
- 00:13:23basis could you challenge that um how
- 00:13:25could you say I'm wrong or if I tell you
- 00:13:27that I think in favor of this P
- 00:13:30particular political
- 00:13:32candidate how do you how could you
- 00:13:34possibly show him wrong well it it's a
- 00:13:36that's a philosophical question that's
- 00:13:38been debated and in Psychology it's been
- 00:13:40addressed and basically by coming up
- 00:13:42with some other Criterion of how I feel
- 00:13:45that maybe you can challenge my
- 00:13:47statement so those criteria have been
- 00:13:49implicit measures um that might give a
- 00:13:52different answer than my verbal report
- 00:13:55uh peer reports how my friends think I
- 00:13:57feel is that something
- 00:13:59how does that compare to what I say and
- 00:14:02also how well my reports predict my
- 00:14:05behavior as another indication of
- 00:14:08accuracy the answer also depends on what
- 00:14:11kind of current state we're talking
- 00:14:13about so that's why this is a little
- 00:14:14more complicated that I think there's no
- 00:14:16blanket answer we can give about self-
- 00:14:18knowledge of our present cell we have to
- 00:14:21break this down a little further and
- 00:14:22talk about well what kind of state are
- 00:14:24we talking about so let's go through
- 00:14:27some of them and one that I think U
- 00:14:30perhaps there some of the clearest
- 00:14:32evidence is knowing why we've done
- 00:14:35something or feel the way we do these
- 00:14:38are reports that um we know from other
- 00:14:41literatures are some CER cases of people
- 00:14:44giving wrong answers one if any of you
- 00:14:46were at Mike gaza's talk yesterday uh
- 00:14:49most of you probably know of his
- 00:14:51research with split brain patients where
- 00:14:52they're clear cases of confabulation we
- 00:14:55know that they uh reached for an object
- 00:14:58uh with their their left hand because of
- 00:15:00something that was flashed to their
- 00:15:01right Hemisphere and yet they give a
- 00:15:04confabulated response uh with their left
- 00:15:07brain
- 00:15:08interpreter um also true of some brain
- 00:15:11damage the article that di n dick nisbit
- 00:15:13and I published in 1977 one way of
- 00:15:16summarizing that is to Simply say it
- 00:15:18extends that to you and I who have a
- 00:15:20corpus colossum that that we too are
- 00:15:23confabulators at least to a big degree
- 00:15:26we use our theories about why we've done
- 00:15:28what we've done
- 00:15:29um and one source of evidence for this
- 00:15:31is that often strangers can give answers
- 00:15:35explanations of our behavior that are as
- 00:15:37accurate as our
- 00:15:39own so let me go through one old study
- 00:15:42to make this point and and then
- 00:15:43summarize this literature so this is a
- 00:15:45study we did many years
- 00:15:47ago in which we had college students um
- 00:15:50for five weeks rate their mood every day
- 00:15:54and also several things that might
- 00:15:56predict their mood so they rated the
- 00:15:58weather how their work was going their
- 00:16:01relationships um uh what else what day
- 00:16:04of the week it was you know a bunch of
- 00:16:06things that might or might not predict
- 00:16:07their mood after the five weeks they
- 00:16:10then told us what they thought these
- 00:16:12relationships were so we said how much
- 00:16:14did your sleep predict your mood over
- 00:16:16the course of these five weeks the day
- 00:16:18of the week your relationships and so on
- 00:16:20and this allowed us to compute a
- 00:16:23accuracy correlation for each
- 00:16:24participant so if I were in the study um
- 00:16:28how accurate was my report about the
- 00:16:30predictability of sleep with how much
- 00:16:32sleep really predicted my mood during
- 00:16:34this 5-week period and averaging across
- 00:16:38participants we found that this accuracy
- 00:16:41correlation was 04 highly significant
- 00:16:44not not terrible um you know it's not a
- 00:16:47huge proportion of the variance but it
- 00:16:49shows that people aren't completely
- 00:16:50wrong at knowing what predicts their
- 00:16:53mood but then we asked a group of
- 00:16:55strangers also college students to guess
- 00:16:58what they thought the average
- 00:16:59relationships were between sleep and
- 00:17:01mood day of the week and so on to
- 00:17:03compare whether a complete stranger how
- 00:17:06their accuracy compare to the actual
- 00:17:09participants and it was 045 um pretty
- 00:17:14much the
- 00:17:15same now it's a little more nuanced than
- 00:17:17that and I want to illustrate this to
- 00:17:19you with a VIN diagram so what we see
- 00:17:23here let me see if my little pointer bre
- 00:17:25yeah so this represents the actual
- 00:17:27causes of our behavor Behavior what say
- 00:17:30is really causing our mood this circle
- 00:17:33here represents the actor's his or her
- 00:17:36own uh causal report and this is this
- 00:17:39circle is the strangers and this
- 00:17:42correlation I just told you of the
- 00:17:44actor's accuracy is the intersection of
- 00:17:46these two circles that's the actors are
- 00:17:49accurate at estimating what the actual
- 00:17:51causes
- 00:17:53are these two uh this area here is the
- 00:17:57stranger act you're seeing you can can
- 00:17:58see it's about the same but you'll also
- 00:18:00notice that there's not a complete
- 00:18:02overlap between the two so what we see
- 00:18:06here this is actually a partial
- 00:18:08correlation from the study I just told
- 00:18:10you about of the actor's reports
- 00:18:12partialling out the The Strangers
- 00:18:14reports showing that um and it's highly
- 00:18:17significant showing that actors do have
- 00:18:19some unique insight as to what predicts
- 00:18:22their mood that is not captured by
- 00:18:25causal theories that strangers use um so
- 00:18:28this shows um and it actually initially
- 00:18:31seemed wow this is inconsistent with the
- 00:18:33nisb and Wilson point that there is some
- 00:18:35unique Insight here but if you compute
- 00:18:37this partial correlation we also find
- 00:18:40that strangers are getting some a piece
- 00:18:42of the accuracy that actors are not um
- 00:18:45the causal theories that that actors um
- 00:18:48avoid causal theories at their risk and
- 00:18:50it actually leads to missing some things
- 00:18:53that are predicting their their behavior
- 00:18:56so uh just to summarize that point Point
- 00:18:59um we can bring privileged information
- 00:19:01to bear that helps us understand why we
- 00:19:04do what we do but on balance it doesn't
- 00:19:07seem to give us much advantage over
- 00:19:12strangers okay what about knowing our
- 00:19:14personalities I'm going to go through
- 00:19:16this part fairly quickly and actually
- 00:19:17rely on some of samin's work in this
- 00:19:19area uh do we know our own personality
- 00:19:22traits so again what's the Criterion a
- 00:19:25bu the pretty much the same ones have
- 00:19:27been used I mentioned before implicit
- 00:19:29measures like the IAT uh how peers think
- 00:19:32we we um what our personality traits are
- 00:19:35and how well our reports predict our
- 00:19:38behavior and um summarizing from an
- 00:19:41article um Bine we see that uh these are
- 00:19:45the correlations between implicit
- 00:19:47measures and self-reports of personality
- 00:19:51traits not particularly uh impressive
- 00:19:55again you know there's some ambiguity
- 00:19:56here does that mean people are wrong or
- 00:19:58maybe the implicit measures are not
- 00:20:00particularly valid that that's a very
- 00:20:02hard question to answer but let's kind
- 00:20:04of look at the big picture let's compare
- 00:20:06to our own reports to how our friends
- 00:20:09think we feel our peer reports and here
- 00:20:12a little higher for the Big Five
- 00:20:13personality traits there is some overlap
- 00:20:15if if I think I'm a little introverted
- 00:20:18then my friends would kind of agree with
- 00:20:20that but not entirely those those
- 00:20:22correlations aren't all that
- 00:20:26high and as I said this does raise the
- 00:20:28question of okay if my friends and I
- 00:20:30disagree as to uh my personality who's
- 00:20:33right and one way of answering that
- 00:20:35question is to see um well how well do
- 00:20:39these reports predict my behavior are my
- 00:20:42friends better at it than I or or am I
- 00:20:44better than they are and um basically
- 00:20:48it's a wash some other work of s means
- 00:20:49showing that um that friends reports and
- 00:20:53peer reports predicts a person's
- 00:20:55Behavior to about the same degree but
- 00:20:58not always always the same variance
- 00:20:59again it's kind of like the nisb and
- 00:21:01Wilson point that that maybe on balance
- 00:21:03they're about the same but I think each
- 00:21:04is getting a unique portion of of the
- 00:21:06variance variance and this was made
- 00:21:09beautifully in a very recent paper that
- 00:21:11came out in Psych science with an
- 00:21:13interesting data set these researchers
- 00:21:15had personality reports from a uh some
- 00:21:19adults who were in their 20s in the
- 00:21:211930s so they had rated their own
- 00:21:24personality on Dimensions that were
- 00:21:26roughly equivalent to the big five they
- 00:21:29also had um five friends rate their
- 00:21:33personality and given the time this was
- 00:21:36done this study could use what we might
- 00:21:38think of as the ultimate dependent
- 00:21:40measure mortality um which reports
- 00:21:44predicted how long these people lived
- 00:21:47because they're actually all deceased
- 00:21:49now um and one might think well surely
- 00:21:52my knowledge of my own personality would
- 00:21:55predict this better but in fact the FR
- 00:21:58ratings predicted better how long people
- 00:22:00would live than the self ratings so the
- 00:22:03moral here is if you want to estimate
- 00:22:05how long you're going to live ask your
- 00:22:07friends to estimate your
- 00:22:11personality I'll skip through this one
- 00:22:13pretty quickly again I to be honest I
- 00:22:15think this area is a little bit of a
- 00:22:17morass um how well do we know in our no
- 00:22:19attitudes you there's no doubt that our
- 00:22:21attitudes are sometimes
- 00:22:23constructed um there's no doubt that
- 00:22:26correlations between implicit and
- 00:22:27explicit measures are often low I think
- 00:22:30sometimes people have exaggerated how to
- 00:22:32interpret that to say that our attitudes
- 00:22:34are unconscious nonetheless um we
- 00:22:37published an article in Psych review a
- 00:22:39number of years ago that at least allows
- 00:22:40for that possibility that under some
- 00:22:42circumstances I do think it's possible
- 00:22:44to have an attitude of which we're
- 00:22:48unaware what about our current emotions
- 00:22:50if we know anything I one would think
- 00:22:53it's our emotional state how angry how
- 00:22:56sad how euphoric we're feeling
- 00:22:59and yet it's well known that even
- 00:23:01emotions can be constructed um at least
- 00:23:03to some extent we we're inferring how we
- 00:23:06feel and part from the situation we are
- 00:23:08in and it's possible these constructions
- 00:23:11are wrong again I think this is probably
- 00:23:14the exception to the rule I do think
- 00:23:15emotions are something we're we're
- 00:23:17mostly aware of uh but one can point to
- 00:23:20times at least um such as repression
- 00:23:22which brings back Freud into the picture
- 00:23:24that sometimes we may not want to know
- 00:23:26how we feel or other times when there's
- 00:23:28a strong feeling rule uh that is
- 00:23:31contrary to our feelings I think that
- 00:23:33can make it hard to know how we actually
- 00:23:35feel about something so there are
- 00:23:36various feeling rules such as our
- 00:23:38wedding day will be the happiest day of
- 00:23:40our life and that makes it hard to
- 00:23:43recognize that you know we're we're kind
- 00:23:44of pissed off at Uncle Harry who's
- 00:23:46getting drunk and hitting on the
- 00:23:47bridesmaides You Know It uh same thing
- 00:23:51about funerals um or jealousy we have
- 00:23:53strong theories as how we ought to feel
- 00:23:55in these situations which I think can
- 00:23:57make it harder to detect how we really
- 00:24:00feel so to summarize knowledge of our
- 00:24:03current self uh limited direct access
- 00:24:05often
- 00:24:07constructions and accuracy I want to
- 00:24:09come back to this question again it's
- 00:24:10there's a lot of debate as to whether
- 00:24:12it's good or bad to be accurate so we
- 00:24:14will return to that one but in the
- 00:24:16meantime let's move on to our knowledge
- 00:24:18of our future selves uh this is work
- 00:24:22that I've done largely with Dan Gilbert
- 00:24:23on affective forecasting that looks at
- 00:24:26how we know um will feel help will feel
- 00:24:29in the
- 00:24:30future uh I think these same themes
- 00:24:34apply here so uh by definition we don't
- 00:24:38have direct access to the Future unless
- 00:24:40we believe in
- 00:24:41Clairvoyance uh so it has to be a
- 00:24:43construction how will I feel um if a
- 00:24:46certain event occurs in next week or in
- 00:24:49six months I I have to um infer that and
- 00:24:54accuracy here may be a two-edged sword
- 00:24:56as well so uh affective for again it's
- 00:24:59very hard to summarize a couple of
- 00:25:00Decades of work in in a couple of
- 00:25:02minutes but I will try uh so uh how will
- 00:25:05I feel if x occurs uh there are
- 00:25:07systematic errors the most common one is
- 00:25:10the impact bias where people
- 00:25:12overestimate the intensity and duration
- 00:25:14of their feelings I'll give you an
- 00:25:15example of that in a moment uh the most
- 00:25:18common reasons are uh focalism which is
- 00:25:21that we focus on this one event we're
- 00:25:23thinking about and neglect to realize
- 00:25:25there'll be other things in our life
- 00:25:27impacting our emotions itions and immune
- 00:25:29neglect which is the idea that we don't
- 00:25:31take into account basically how
- 00:25:34resilient we'll be and and adapt to
- 00:25:36particularly negative events but let me
- 00:25:39give you a concrete example let's say
- 00:25:41this woman is trying to imagine how she
- 00:25:43will feel uh if her candidate is elected
- 00:25:46president in the 2016 presidential
- 00:25:48election and what might make her
- 00:25:50predictions accurate or inaccurate well
- 00:25:53to illustrate that let me first show
- 00:25:56you how she going to feel when the event
- 00:25:59really happened so time two is the
- 00:26:01election has happened her candidate has
- 00:26:04been elected if she's a Democrat let's
- 00:26:06say it's Hillary Clinton she's thrilled
- 00:26:08that Hillary was was elected if she's a
- 00:26:11republican well it will take me to the
- 00:26:13rest of the talk to list all the
- 00:26:14Republican candidates that could be so
- 00:26:16so I I won't but whatever she's happy
- 00:26:19because her her let's say that you know
- 00:26:21was kind of a close election and so her
- 00:26:23initial reaction here is that she's
- 00:26:26happy but that's going to be influenced
- 00:26:28by other things happening in her life at
- 00:26:30that time so let's say she's having uh a
- 00:26:34tough week at work um you know maybe she
- 00:26:37has a cold you know there's going to be
- 00:26:38other things that that temper that now
- 00:26:41if we're going to look at how that
- 00:26:43reaction lasts over time we also have to
- 00:26:46take into account that that's going to
- 00:26:48fade and and the more she makes sense of
- 00:26:51this event adapts to it the reaction
- 00:26:52will fade so she has to take that into
- 00:26:55account when making the forecast so now
- 00:26:57let's look at the time one when she's
- 00:27:00making the prediction and what might
- 00:27:02make her accurate or inaccurate so first
- 00:27:05she has to represent the event
- 00:27:07accurately so maybe she's thinking of it
- 00:27:09as a landslide but it's actually going
- 00:27:11to be a close election there all sorts
- 00:27:13of errors that can come in here as to
- 00:27:15how she envisions what the event will be
- 00:27:18but let's say that she kind of gets that
- 00:27:19right that generates a pre-filing yeah
- 00:27:22I'll feel really good if my candidate's
- 00:27:24elected but now there's other sources of
- 00:27:26bias so now there there's corrects she
- 00:27:28has to correct for Unique influences at
- 00:27:31this time maybe she has a cold now or
- 00:27:34maybe uh her card has broke down you
- 00:27:36know things that are tempering her
- 00:27:38prediction that aren't going to apply at
- 00:27:40time two she has to correct for the time
- 00:27:43two things such as the unique influences
- 00:27:46here she has to correct for the
- 00:27:48adaptation that will happen here and the
- 00:27:51long and short of it is that all of
- 00:27:52these are sources of error that can lead
- 00:27:55to an inaccurate forecast usually in the
- 00:27:57direction of overestimating the impact
- 00:28:00and duration of an emotional event to
- 00:28:03give you just one of many illustrations
- 00:28:05of that a study we did of a presidential
- 00:28:08election this one was the 2000 election
- 00:28:11between George Bush and Al Gore in which
- 00:28:14we uh asked people to predict how they
- 00:28:16would feel we had both Democrats and
- 00:28:18Republicans how will you feel if Gore is
- 00:28:20elected how will you feel if Bush is
- 00:28:22elected um as you know on Election Day
- 00:28:24no one was elected in this election so
- 00:28:27um as the interpret and researchers we
- 00:28:30got back in touch with them say okay how
- 00:28:31are you going to feel when the elections
- 00:28:33actually decided how will you feel the
- 00:28:35day after the elections
- 00:28:37decided we got back in touch with them
- 00:28:39the day after the election was decided
- 00:28:41by the Supreme Court on December 12th
- 00:28:442000 so on December 13th we emailed them
- 00:28:47and said okay how happy are you now and
- 00:28:50then uh we got some time pass and ask
- 00:28:52them to recall how happy they
- 00:28:54were now uh what the the axis here is
- 00:28:59actually a different score between how
- 00:29:02they predicted they would feel minus
- 00:29:04their Baseline level of Happiness on a
- 00:29:07nine-point scale so what you see Bush
- 00:29:09supporters thought if Bush wins I will
- 00:29:12be three points happier on a ninepoint
- 00:29:14scale uh Gore supporters that have Bush
- 00:29:17wins I'll be about three points less
- 00:29:20happy pretty massive uh difference they
- 00:29:23predicted that was their prediction in
- 00:29:25advance about how happy they'd be the
- 00:29:28day after the election the day after the
- 00:29:29election well Bush supporters were a
- 00:29:31little happier Gore supporters a little
- 00:29:34less happy that actually is a pretty big
- 00:29:36significant difference between the red
- 00:29:37bars but you can see not nearly as big a
- 00:29:40difference as they predicted and That's
- 00:29:42a classic case of the impact by us that
- 00:29:45that people think that um you these
- 00:29:47events are going to have a bigger impact
- 00:29:49than they do when we asked them several
- 00:29:52months later to recall how they felt the
- 00:29:54day after the election we see our
- 00:29:56standard kind of memory B too where they
- 00:29:59they now are using their theories again
- 00:30:01about uh how one probably feels after
- 00:30:04presidential elections and they're again
- 00:30:06overestimating in retrospect as well as
- 00:30:09in
- 00:30:12Prospect there's been a lot of debate as
- 00:30:14to whether these kinds of errors are
- 00:30:16functional or not is it good or bad uh
- 00:30:19Mor wedge and Buell have some recent
- 00:30:21evidence suggesting there may be a
- 00:30:23motivational function to the impact bias
- 00:30:26we uh we commit the impact bias even
- 00:30:29more for events we can control
- 00:30:31suggesting that maybe it's a way to get
- 00:30:33us out of bed in the morning to work
- 00:30:34towards um events that we want to happen
- 00:30:38uh but I think um it's surely not
- 00:30:39completely functional it happens for
- 00:30:41events people can't control and we have
- 00:30:44actually evidence from other studies
- 00:30:46that sometimes people actually get the
- 00:30:47veilance wrong of a prediction that in
- 00:30:50this particular study they thought
- 00:30:52Revenge would make them feel better when
- 00:30:54it actually made them feel worse uh
- 00:30:56exerting revenge against someone who had
- 00:30:59done something bad to them so I again I
- 00:31:01think it's a two-edged sword maybe a
- 00:31:02little bit of motivational function but
- 00:31:04not completely um a good
- 00:31:07thing so um pretty much the same thing
- 00:31:11here no direct access um a effect of
- 00:31:15forecast are constructions and accuracy
- 00:31:17is a two-edged
- 00:31:18sword but I want to move on to some kind
- 00:31:21of bigger picture issues about self-
- 00:31:24knowledge and one question that often
- 00:31:27comes up is okay well how can we achieve
- 00:31:29it and if it's true that there is this
- 00:31:32direct access fallacy then uh one answer
- 00:31:35is that if we want to gain self-
- 00:31:37knowledge Naval gazing introspection is
- 00:31:40not the complete answer now again I
- 00:31:42don't want to say we should ignore our
- 00:31:44internal States rather we should use
- 00:31:46them as data to constructing a good
- 00:31:49theory about ourselves and in fact we
- 00:31:52have a line of research from several
- 00:31:53years ago suggesting that too much
- 00:31:55introspection can actually backfire and
- 00:31:58confuse us about how we feel so we do it
- 00:32:00at our own
- 00:32:02risk but the basic message is construct
- 00:32:05good stories I'm fond of using stories
- 00:32:07as a metaphor for self- knowledge that
- 00:32:09we construct a narrative as to who we
- 00:32:11are um based on hopefully good data what
- 00:32:15are that data well introspection is One
- 00:32:17Source we should use our internal States
- 00:32:20as one source of information from which
- 00:32:22to construct this good story but we
- 00:32:24should also use other sources of
- 00:32:26information we should observe our
- 00:32:28Behavior U and see how we actually
- 00:32:31respond we should try to see ourselves
- 00:32:33through others eyes they may actually
- 00:32:35have a view of us that we should take
- 00:32:38into account and to give a shout out to
- 00:32:41our own field we should be good
- 00:32:42consumers of psychological science just
- 00:32:44like we can learn about our bodies from
- 00:32:46Medical Science um psychological science
- 00:32:49can tell us things such as there are
- 00:32:52implicit biases that might at least lead
- 00:32:54to the hypothesis that that applies to
- 00:32:56me uh as as
- 00:33:00well but okay so self knowledge is a
- 00:33:03story what makes a good story I would
- 00:33:06suggest that a good story first of all
- 00:33:07should be believable it's probably not
- 00:33:09very adaptable to say that you know I'm
- 00:33:11an alien who arrived yesterday from
- 00:33:13outer space um it should provide peace
- 00:33:16of mind it should be coherent U maybe a
- 00:33:19little bit flattering as we'll get
- 00:33:21to and maybe somewhat
- 00:33:25accurate which I'll return to
- 00:33:28but um as a slight aside this metaphor I
- 00:33:32think is useful to know how to help
- 00:33:34people whose stories aren't working for
- 00:33:36them very well there's plenty of cases
- 00:33:38where people have stories that are
- 00:33:39leading to maladaptive behaviors or
- 00:33:42unhappiness and um just to give a shout
- 00:33:44out to my recent book um there are
- 00:33:47techniques that have been developed by
- 00:33:49social psychologists to help people edit
- 00:33:51their own stories in ways that are
- 00:33:53beneficial and this is a really exciting
- 00:33:55time in social psychology um in terms of
- 00:33:58these interventions often they're
- 00:33:59minimal interventions that are cheap um
- 00:34:02that are can take in some cases an hour
- 00:34:06and just by Framing information to
- 00:34:08people differently or getting them to uh
- 00:34:11write about themselves in various ways
- 00:34:13can lead to cascading change in their
- 00:34:16stories with some really good outcome
- 00:34:18measures so uh that's one use of this
- 00:34:22metaphor but let's get to this question
- 00:34:24of accuracy I I keep postponing um you
- 00:34:26know should a story be accurate and by
- 00:34:29that I simply mean should it cor
- 00:34:31correspond to our actual past present
- 00:34:33and future selves and there are at least
- 00:34:36two views on this you know one is uh
- 00:34:39originally stated by Taylor and brown
- 00:34:41that we a little bit of distortion in a
- 00:34:43positive direction is a good thing that
- 00:34:46it helps us get out of bed in the
- 00:34:47morning that thinking we can control our
- 00:34:50futures and that we are better than
- 00:34:52average uh is is a sign of mental health
- 00:34:56but there are those who have challenged
- 00:34:57that few um some personality
- 00:34:59psychologist primarily who say yeah but
- 00:35:02you know um nobody likes a narcissist
- 00:35:05that that if you go around saying how
- 00:35:07great you are you're not going to have
- 00:35:09many friends
- 00:35:10eventually uh an example of this that I
- 00:35:13think I'm fond of is if you remember the
- 00:35:15play pigmon or my My Fair Lady uh Henry
- 00:35:19Higgins um says to his friend Pickering
- 00:35:22in reference to his housekeeper that Mrs
- 00:35:25Pierce that you know she has the most
- 00:35:26extraordinary ideas about me here I am a
- 00:35:29shy defant sort of person and yet she's
- 00:35:31firmly persuaded that I'm an arbitrary
- 00:35:34overbearing bossy kind of person I can't
- 00:35:36account for it well the reason this is
- 00:35:38so funny is it's obvious that he is an
- 00:35:40overbearing arbitrary bossy kind of
- 00:35:42person and so the question is is it good
- 00:35:44for Henry Higgins to have this view or
- 00:35:48not I think it's probably pretty good as
- 00:35:50long as it's not too extreme obviously
- 00:35:54we don't want huge distortions there's
- 00:35:56some recent evidence that
- 00:35:58self-enhancement is better if we keep it
- 00:36:00to ourselves than wear it on our sleeves
- 00:36:02so if you privately think you're the
- 00:36:04smartest person in this room um that's
- 00:36:07probably okay uh but if you go around
- 00:36:11telling everyone you're the smartest
- 00:36:12person in this room not so
- 00:36:16much and Taylor armor and Taylor had an
- 00:36:19article um in 1998 where they talked
- 00:36:22about situated optimism the idea that
- 00:36:25really what's best is to recognize our
- 00:36:27flaws when we can do something about it
- 00:36:30uh but there are times when um you know
- 00:36:33there's not a whole lot we can do and
- 00:36:35then maybe it's better to enhance a
- 00:36:37little bit as as a motivator so I think
- 00:36:39we should know our flaws well enough to
- 00:36:41try to improve them uh but maybe a
- 00:36:44little bit of of self-enhancement is not
- 00:36:46so bad but I want to take a broader look
- 00:36:48at this um John lennin famously saying
- 00:36:52Whatever Gets You Through the Night it's
- 00:36:54all right it's all right and I think
- 00:36:57there are are I'd like to sort of take
- 00:36:58this up a level where rather than
- 00:37:00looking at accuracy in terms of how well
- 00:37:02I know a particular trait or uh
- 00:37:05attitude um I want to talk about some
- 00:37:08general myths that may be good to have
- 00:37:10to live our lives by and I'm going to
- 00:37:13tell you about four such myths that I
- 00:37:16think are pretty good now I warn you um
- 00:37:20that by telling you about them I kind of
- 00:37:21puncture them so this may not be the
- 00:37:23most beneficial thing if you agree with
- 00:37:25me that these myths are important but
- 00:37:27here they
- 00:37:29are
- 00:37:31first I hate to say it but this is not
- 00:37:36true um we all but you know we don't
- 00:37:39live every day most of us thinking yep
- 00:37:41today could be the day I die uh we kind
- 00:37:43of live um not thinking about that fact
- 00:37:46and there may be some benefit to that
- 00:37:49second um this general idea that we're
- 00:37:53important and there's I heard an
- 00:37:55interesting talk Yesterday by Mark Alec
- 00:37:56where he he found that not only do we
- 00:37:59enhance our our positive qualities
- 00:38:02people actually also enhance their
- 00:38:03negative car characteristics to some
- 00:38:05extent suggesting that we just think
- 00:38:07we're important people that have this
- 00:38:09big impact on the world and you know I
- 00:38:11hate to tell you but uh we're all kind
- 00:38:14of grains of sand out there in some
- 00:38:18sense naive realism is the idea that we
- 00:38:22think we see the world as it is but in
- 00:38:24fact we are constru it and interpreting
- 00:38:26it and as a very pervasive bias that uh
- 00:38:30maybe has some benefit and the last one
- 00:38:33is thinking that the world is more
- 00:38:35predictable than it is for which there
- 00:38:37is considerable
- 00:38:40evidence such as the fundamental
- 00:38:42attribution eror thinking that we can
- 00:38:44see people as they are and use that to
- 00:38:46predict their behavior in the future
- 00:38:51now I'm going to suggest that we
- 00:38:54actually these myths are good to have to
- 00:38:56a small degree so like Goldilocks I
- 00:38:59think we have to hold them at just the
- 00:39:01right level so it wouldn't be too good
- 00:39:04for us to go through our days without
- 00:39:06these myths thinking I could die at any
- 00:39:09moment um I'm really unimportant you
- 00:39:12know boy I just uh let's face it you
- 00:39:14know 10 20 30 surely 100 years from now
- 00:39:17no one's going to have any idea who I
- 00:39:19was or am um pretty pretty
- 00:39:22trivial um you know it's really hard to
- 00:39:25view the world the way it is it's who
- 00:39:28knows what's really out there and I have
- 00:39:30no idea what's going to happen next you
- 00:39:32know this is not a good way to live our
- 00:39:35life nor though is it good to uh perhaps
- 00:39:38have the opposite view that uh I'm never
- 00:39:41going to die I might as well uh smoke
- 00:39:43cigarettes and and uh drink as much as I
- 00:39:46want and drive as fast as I want that's
- 00:39:48not so good uh obviously not good to
- 00:39:50think we're the most important person in
- 00:39:52the world that we can view the world
- 00:39:54completely
- 00:39:55accurately and predict the world
- 00:39:57accurately that leads to gambling
- 00:40:01problems so um let me just suggest a
- 00:40:05couple of solutions to this I think as
- 00:40:07far as this myth of immortality perhaps
- 00:40:11um the best approach here is well first
- 00:40:13of all um a good belief system a good
- 00:40:16meaning system that allows us to make
- 00:40:18sense of the world to to think there's a
- 00:40:20purpose of of some sort obviously
- 00:40:23religion can play this role to allow us
- 00:40:25to feel that yes we are not Immortal but
- 00:40:28there's a larger purpose to the world
- 00:40:31and come up with a a good purpose so
- 00:40:34you've probably noticed if you read New
- 00:40:35Yorker cartoons and others that there's
- 00:40:37a whole series of cartoons of people
- 00:40:39climbing the mountain and finding the
- 00:40:41guru to discover what the meaning of
- 00:40:43life is and in this one this guy climbs
- 00:40:46the mountain and he finds out that the
- 00:40:48meaning of Life Is Life is a and
- 00:40:50then you
- 00:40:51die that's not a good belief system yeah
- 00:40:54we got to have something that that keeps
- 00:40:56us going
- 00:40:58and you know that could be many things
- 00:41:00so here's a guy who climbs the
- 00:41:01Mountaintop and he finds out the meaning
- 00:41:03of life is cats um well if that works
- 00:41:07for you then you know why not or if like
- 00:41:10from the movie bu durm you like uh the
- 00:41:13woman who uh says I believe in the
- 00:41:15Church of baseball you know what it
- 00:41:16doesn't really matter what your belief
- 00:41:18is as long as it gives you a sense of
- 00:41:19meaning and
- 00:41:21purpose but there's also something I
- 00:41:24think helps with this myth that is
- 00:41:26underappreciated and that is just a good
- 00:41:28sense of humor U that looking at life uh
- 00:41:32with a smile um this is something that I
- 00:41:34learned from my dear friend Dan Wagner
- 00:41:36who every day I think lived with humor
- 00:41:40um even when he passed away a couple of
- 00:41:42years ago uh there are many cartoons
- 00:41:45with with this source of inform this
- 00:41:47idea as well so here's death visiting
- 00:41:52us it happen they came for me you so it
- 00:41:56it uh
- 00:41:58let's all laugh that's that's the
- 00:42:00principle there well what about
- 00:42:02self-importance I mean obviously we
- 00:42:03shouldn't think we're we're totally
- 00:42:05unimportant people but you have to have
- 00:42:07some dose of humility I like this
- 00:42:09t-shirt that says I'm kind of a big deal
- 00:42:12on a fairly irrelevant social media site
- 00:42:15that falsely inflates my ego you know
- 00:42:17that's you know that's that's probably
- 00:42:20pretty
- 00:42:24healthy knive realism well you know I do
- 00:42:26think it's good for us most of the time
- 00:42:28to think that we're seeing the world the
- 00:42:30way it is but to realize that you know
- 00:42:32it when there are certainly times when
- 00:42:35it's important for us to know that it
- 00:42:37really is an interpretation and to be
- 00:42:39able to to realize that as far as uh
- 00:42:42predictability goes um you know having
- 00:42:46some idea of what thinking we have some
- 00:42:48idea of what will happen next is is a
- 00:42:50good thing as well so uh to wrap up I
- 00:42:54would say that when it comes to looking
- 00:42:57at our past selves looking at our
- 00:43:00current self or looking at our future
- 00:43:03self just keep in mind that it's all
- 00:43:06about the story that we construct and we
- 00:43:08should do so with care and I'll leave
- 00:43:11you with some lyrics from a singer uh
- 00:43:15Courtney Barnett who is a wonderful
- 00:43:17independent singer with a new album out
- 00:43:20and she has these lines we either think
- 00:43:23that we're Invincible or that we're
- 00:43:25invisible realistically more somewhere
- 00:43:28in between thank you very
- 00:43:32[Music]
- 00:43:38[Music]
- 00:43:41much I guess
- 00:43:43there's or
- 00:43:46not my mic is off okay yeah we have time
- 00:43:48for a question or two yeah I wonder how
- 00:43:51you reconcile your view that we see the
- 00:43:54self as consistent and
- 00:43:57with research suggesting that people
- 00:43:59think they change more and will change
- 00:44:02more in the future than other people
- 00:44:05will well I'd have to look at that
- 00:44:07research because you know we have some
- 00:44:09research showing this end of History
- 00:44:10illusion that that people regardless of
- 00:44:13what age you you uh ask them they think
- 00:44:16they're pretty much done changing um is
- 00:44:18what we found in our
- 00:44:20research yeah introspection is not like
- 00:44:25you don't have a little organ in it's a
- 00:44:28conceptual achievement it requires Focus
- 00:44:31thought integration and it seems to me
- 00:44:34that one of the reason people are so bad
- 00:44:37knowing themselves is they never learned
- 00:44:38how to do it and don't bother to do it
- 00:44:41and psychologist often disallow the
- 00:44:44concept to even be used well I'm open to
- 00:44:47the possibility and you know certainly
- 00:44:49some forms of meditation claim that
- 00:44:50training uh improves introspection uh so
- 00:44:54I'm open to that possibility I I do
- 00:44:56think there are still limits that
- 00:44:57training is not going to uh get us in
- 00:45:00total of
- 00:45:03a okay I think we're pretty much out of
- 00:45:05time so I'm happy to answer questions uh
- 00:45:07afterwards thank
- 00:45:12you
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