2022 Careers in MIS

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概要

TLDRWebinarul organizat de școala de afaceri Gonzaga a avut drept subiect principal carierele în sistemul de informații de gestionare (MIS). Moderatorul sesiunii a fost Russell Wilden, și au participat Ed Berry, Fiona Sutherland și Max Mortensen, reprezentanți ai unor companii importante precum Amazon și Deloitte. Au fost discutate aspecte precum abilitățile necesare pentru a reuși în MIS, importanța curiozității și a unei mentalități de creștere. Vorbitorii au împărtășit și experiențele lor profesionale, subliniind relevanța capacității de a conecta afaceri cu tehnologia și utilizarea analizei datelor. O provocare discutată a fost automatizarea în contabilitate, prezentată de Fiona Sutherland, indicând că fiecare client are nevoi unice care necesită soluții creative. În concluzie, s-a subliniat că succesul în MIS nu depinde doar de competențele tehnice, ci și de înțelegerea nevoilor de afaceri și adaptarea continuă la noile tehnologii.

収穫

  • 👩‍💼 Cariera în MIS oferă numeroase oportunități datorită creșterii cererii de abilitați în analiză și tehnologie.
  • 📈 Utilizarea analizei datelor este esențială pentru a lua decizii de afaceri mai informate.
  • 💡 Curiozitatea și dorința de a învăța continuu sunt esențiale pentru succes.
  • 🛠 Automatizarea în contabilitate necesită soluții creative datorită diversității nevoilor clienților.
  • 📊 Instrumentele de business intelligence sunt critice pentru succesul organizațional.
  • 🤝 Mentorarea și învățarea din comunitate pot accelera dezvoltarea carierei.
  • 🌐 Abilitățile de adaptare și comunicare sunt fundamentale în gestionarea tehnologiei.
  • 🔧 RPA și API-urile sunt importante pentru implementări tehnologice eficiente.
  • 🎓 Educația continuă este un pilon de succes profesional în tehnologie.
  • 🧠 Mentalitatea de creștere permite explorarea unor noi căi în carieră.

タイムライン

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Chris Stevens introduce sesiunea de luni la prânz, axată pe cariere în MIS, subliniind importanța informațiilor pentru comunitate și studenți, cu participarea unor invitați speciali.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Russell Wilden, moderatorul, prezintă vorbitorii: Fiona Sutherland (Deloitte), Max Mortensen (Amazon) și Ed Berry (Treasury Four), care vor discuta legătura dintre tehnologie și afaceri.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Ed Berry își prezintă experiența în finanțe corporative, subliniind importanța datelor și abilităților MIS în transformarea operațiunilor de trezorerie corporativă.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Berry explică tranziția spre știința datelor în trezorerie corporativă, subliniind cererea pentru abilități în inteligența de afaceri și să utilizeze instrumente precum Python și R.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Fiona Sutherland discută despre automatizarea în contabilitate, subliniind provocările și oportunitățile unei abordări mai automate și de consultanță în gestionarea datelor clienților.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Max Mortensen își prezintă cariera și rolul său de inginer de inteligență de afaceri la Amazon, subliniind utilizarea datelor pentru deciziile de afaceri și marketing în cadrul unei echipe.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Mortensen subliniază importanța combinării afacerilor cu tehnologia pentru a îmbunătăți funcțiile produselor și marketingului și recomandă MIS pentru cei interesați de această integrare.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    Ed Berry discută importanța opțiunilor și a curiozității în avansarea carierei, subliniind impactul pe care accesul la date și înțelegerea punctelor de legătură le au asupra organizației.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Fiona și Max discută abilitățile necesare în MIS și despre importanța comunicării și adaptabilității în atingerea succesului în carieră.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:52:08

    Paneliștii își împărtășesc gândurile finale, subliniind continuarea învățării și importanța de a rămâne curioși și flexibili în carieră.

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よくある質問

  • Cine a participat la webinar?

    Au participat Chris Stevens, Russell Wilden, Ed Berry de la Treasury4, Fiona Sutherland de la Deloitte și Max Mortensen de la Amazon.

  • Care a fost subiectul principal al webinarului?

    Subiectul principal a fost carierele în domeniul sistemelor de informații de gestionare (MIS).

  • Ce domenii funcționale au fost abordate în discuție?

    Discuția a abordat utilizarea analizei datelor, automatizarea în contabilitate și cum să conectezi afacerea cu tehnologia.

  • Ce specialiști au prezentat perspective asupra carierei lor?

    Ed Berry, Fiona Sutherland și Max Mortensen au prezentat perspective asupra carierei lor în MIS.

  • Ce provocări au fost menționate în legătură cu automatizarea în contabilitate?

    Fiona Sutherland a menționat că automatizarea în contabilitate este mai dificilă decât pare, din cauza reglementărilor complexe și diversității sistemelor ERP.

  • Cum au sugerat vorbitorii să abordeze învățarea continuă?

    Vorbitorii au sugerat să fie curioși, să obțină mentorat, să participe la comunități de învățare și să exploreze noi tehnologii.

  • Cum a influențat pandemie abilitățile de comunicare?

    Fiona Sutherland a menționat că pandemia a afectat abilitățile de comunicare, fiind mai greu de păstrat claritatea în comunicările digitale.

  • Care este importanța abilităților MIS în organizații, conform vorbitorilor?

    Abilitățile MIS sunt vitale pentru conectarea afacerilor cu tehnologia, analiza datelor și utilizarea instrumentelor de inteligență de afaceri.

  • Ce tehnologie a fost menționată ca importantă pentru viitorul MIS?

    Tehnologiile de inteligență de afaceri și analiza datelor, precum și codarea în Python, au fost menționate ca importante.

  • Cum au reacționat vorbitorii la nevoia de a învăța continuu?

    Toți vorbitorii au subliniat importanța unei mentalități de creștere și de a continua să învețe tehnologii și abilități noi.

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    so uh welcome to mondays at noon
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    uh my name is chris stevens i'm the
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    associate the acting associate dean uh
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    in the school of business administration
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    i want to welcome you
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    uh we we come together every monday to
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    talk about an issue that we think is
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    interesting for our community and our
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    students
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    and this week thanks to the hard work of
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    the mis faculty and a number of willing
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    volunteers we've got careers in mis
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    we're going to spend some time learning
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    about management information systems and
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    understanding a little bit more about
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    what the opportunities are
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    um in this ever-growing field so i'm
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    going to turn it over now to russell
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    wilden who's uh agreed to be our
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    moderator for today russell take it away
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    thank you chris yeah we're excited to
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    have everyone here today uh thank you to
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    all the students that came and
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    also thank you to all our speakers that
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    took time out of their day to come speak
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    with us
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    um for all the students
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    there's a qr code in the top left of the
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    first screen and then it'll also be on
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    the last slide and that'll just be to
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    mark your attendance for
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    any classes this is required for
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    and then for the speakers
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    we see
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    mis as kind of the bridge between
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    technology and business and we think
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    that the three panelists we have today
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    can give us some great perspective on
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    that so we have
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    fiona sutherland from deloitte
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    max mortensen from amazon and fire tv
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    and then ed berry from treasury four
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    and each of them will go into their
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    backgrounds a little bit more
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    and as they present we encourage you to
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    think about questions and just be
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    prepared for that segment we're going to
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    have about 20 minutes towards the end
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    for
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    any questions that students might have
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    so
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    without further ado i believe we have ed
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    berry to start
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    all right thanks uh russell for uh the
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    invitation to speak today and present to
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    the gonzaga students uh love the
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    university love the basketball team and
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    the university and everything it stands
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    for and we've been fortunate over at
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    treasury four to have a number of uh uh
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    interns uh uh work at treasury four that
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    are uh students at gonzaga so i'm ed
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    berry one of the co-founders and the
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    chief product officer for treasury four
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    we're a startup uh and we're building
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    software solutions for corporate finance
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    and treasury teams uh which is coming
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    out of our experience in 20 plus years
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    in corporate treasury and so my
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    background is
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    having been in uh starting out my career
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    out of college in the investment
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    management broker dealer world then
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    spent seven years in the global
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    corporate treasury at microsoft where i
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    was responsible for their treasury
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    technology portfolio internal and
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    third-party applications as well as
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    treasury operations for three years
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    while i was there subsequently went to
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    itron in liberty lake as their assistant
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    treasurer and built out their global
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    treasury operations as well as
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    global treasury technology which we won
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    a 2014 adam smith award for best process
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    re-engineering solution uh in
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    recognition of the how we tied all their
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    applications and data together
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    and then prior to treasury 4 i spent 6
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    years at tableau software as their
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    treasurer and then stayed on with the
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    company after they were acquired by
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    salesforce and led strategic initiatives
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    with them
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    great thank you and then ed
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    we were going to have you go over some
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    mis related skills you see in the
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    workplace
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    well i think we need more than an hour
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    for all of us to get our feedback and
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    ideas on mis
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    but
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    and what i would say is i mean for us at
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    treasury 4 and even just looking back at
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    my career in corporate treasury and
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    corporate finance it's all about
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    data and how you use data how you
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    connect to data pull it through and do
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    something with it whether it's analytics
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    for your organization
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    uh to reconciliation and being able to
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    bridge things together so mis skills are
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    critical and they're in fact growing in
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    the corporate treasury space you're
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    seeing many best-in-class corporations
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    that are starting to pivot some of their
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    treasury team members to being more
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    focused on data science and use of data
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    analytics tools beyond visualization so
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    a few years ago there was a big focus on
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    using tableau to drive data
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    visualization and dashboards for
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    organizations
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    now many treasury teams are actually
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    trying to pull in data science and so
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    what the people what organizations are
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    looking for
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    are those
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    people
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    and talent that know how to work with
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    business intelligence intelligence tools
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    data science tools they know how to go
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    after data and even preferably know how
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    to you know write scripting or
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    analytics and tools like python and r
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    and so it doesn't necessarily mean you
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    act have to be a hardcore
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    developer
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    using tools like c sharp or
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    c plus plus or some of those languages
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    but it's knowing how to bring together
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    all of the different tools that are
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    available in the marketplace to drive
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    the outcomes that your organization
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    needs
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    awesome
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    thank you thank you for that ed for the
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    next speaker we have uh fiona sutherland
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    yeah hi everyone um i do not have a as a
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    storied history and mis as zed might
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    have i was the recent grad of gonzaga in
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    2020 so
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    uh got to see the first hand experience
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    of being in a virtual first environment
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    over at gu and i started deloitte
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    in 2021 in january so fully virtual
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    position and i'm a tax consultant too
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    that serves in our in international tax
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    quantitative consulting services
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    function which is just fancy way of
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    saying the technology arm of
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    international
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    [Music]
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    i i majored in gonzaga in accounting and
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    then concentrated mis and hr
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    and i really do believe that even though
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    i am working on primarily a tax space uh
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    mis is kind of what i use most
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    day-to-day um even though tax returns is
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    kind of the impression people get but i
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    i honestly haven't had um
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    experience in that but yeah happy to be
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    here and thanks for organizing wrestle
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    of course um
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    so friona is going to speak a little bit
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    about automation and accounting
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    yes and that's a it's more of a
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    controversial topic than i think
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    some other other spaces might be i i
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    remember sitting in a few of our mis
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    courses and kind of hearing like okay
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    accounting's be automated it's like the
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    first thing to go
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    when robots take over and your tax
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    return you'll never have to look at
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    another form again um and i kind of wish
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    that was the case to be honest to a
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    large extent um automation and
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    accounting right now it's sitting at
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    this really interesting uh
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    sort of confluence of technology is
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    getting better it's getting smarter and
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    then we're also having to
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    understand our clients data and they're
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    having more and more data capabilities
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    to be able to analyze and pivot and
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    review um but automation and accounting
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    is not as advanced as as one might think
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    um
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    for context i work in the public
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    accounting space so i have a wide
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    variety of clients and in some
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    capacity i work more as a consultant to
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    come in and understand
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    what to automate what's the process
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    that's getting hung up what are even
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    these workbooks excel workbooks that
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    we're working with and how to leverage
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    those downstream
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    and i think
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    that the accounting of the past is
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    long gone we are expected to
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    rapidly
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    analyze large sets of data and
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    understand new regulations
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    especially in a tax base specifically
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    these regulations are not made in the
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    terms of data and not
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    by anybody that is competent with um
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    anything regarding automation so it's a
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    unique challenge because every client
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    has a different fact pattern every
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    technology is a little different every
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    erp system outputs things in a different
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    way and so
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    we're in a great spot to have creative
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    solutions to complex and changing
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    problems
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    i do i focus in a lot of modeling but
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    the the key of automation and accounting
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    is to make a process
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    uh easily understandable to people that
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    are non-technology focused um
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    and communicating and selling that work
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    to clients we have to have a degree of
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    understanding that they may not be
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    coming from a very advanced technical
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    background so uh it's
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    this hard uh aspect of trying to
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    be able to automate something and make
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    it usable and have greater functionality
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    leveraging mis and coding and developers
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    also retaining
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    and having it actually be useful to the
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    people because we can automate
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    everything to a large degree but if
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    there's no value in it and there's no
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    transparency with it
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    that's where
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    we aren't gonna really be able to
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    replace everything with robots just
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    quite yet so i'm i'm hoping for more
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    automation in the future and um
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    it would make my job a lot easier and i
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    think everybody
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    in here would benefit from it as well
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    awesome thank you for that fiona
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    um for our next speaker last but not
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    least we have max mortensen
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    yeah thanks russell for the intro and um
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    just want to start by saying thanks to
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    everyone for taking time out of you know
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    your lunch schedule slash
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    school schedule to to join today um
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    i would say it's first off it's an honor
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    to be speaking and especially during the
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    middle of another march madness run it's
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    always cool to get back together with
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    the gonzaga community and see
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    um just students and alumni and
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    faculty so super honored to be here
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    um so my path is a little bit more
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    secure so i um graduated 2015 as an
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    undergrad and then actually spent a year
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    after undergrad two in the mba program
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    so i um that was back when uh
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    chris stevens was running the program
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    too so it's cool to see him today on the
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    call
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    um oh
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    wait
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    is she
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    sorry i don't know
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    i think someone might be unmuted
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    we'll keep going and just see if it
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    continues um
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    okay thanks
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    uh and so yeah my path after the nba
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    program i jumped around a little bit so
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    i started in
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    real estate which is what my um my dad
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    did so that was kind of my initial
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    interest
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    um and then went down the corporate
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    finance route um and so that's how i
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    started uh at amazon which i'm assuming
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    most on the call know what amazon does
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    but it's an e-commerce company
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    and through the first um
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    portion of my
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    career at amazon i i met a mentor there
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    which i think i'm going to talk about a
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    little bit later in my my personal
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    section but essentially made the
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    transition um within the company to go
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    into what's called a business
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    intelligence engineer role
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    and that's um heavily focused on using
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    data to drive business decisions for a
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    specific unit which um the team that i'm
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    on is the fire tv team so
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    um some may be familiar but we make the
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    streaming media players and televisions
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    that allow you to watch netflix hulu etc
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    so yeah that's where i am today
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    awesome
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    thank you and then for mac's topic we
  • 00:11:42
    have
  • 00:11:43
    bridging business and technology
  • 00:11:46
    yeah thanks and so pretty apropos to
  • 00:11:49
    what my role is so maybe to dive a
  • 00:11:51
    little bit more into what a business
  • 00:11:52
    intelligence engineer does
  • 00:11:54
    um really related to what ed was
  • 00:11:57
    discussing earlier on using data as a
  • 00:11:59
    way to to make better decisions within
  • 00:12:02
    um either a program or a writer business
  • 00:12:05
    um so my role is directly situated
  • 00:12:08
    within the business itself so my team
  • 00:12:10
    which is
  • 00:12:11
    made up of essentially business
  • 00:12:12
    intelligence and data science folks
  • 00:12:15
    um
  • 00:12:16
    uses data to better make decisions on
  • 00:12:19
    the product
  • 00:12:20
    itself so you know building a better um
  • 00:12:23
    more product features or a new product
  • 00:12:26
    offering that maybe we are
  • 00:12:27
    already offering
  • 00:12:29
    and then also to the marketing function
  • 00:12:31
    um so better promoting those products
  • 00:12:33
    that we've already created
  • 00:12:34
    um and so for me personally um the
  • 00:12:37
    business and tech combo has been the
  • 00:12:40
    most interesting piece of my early
  • 00:12:42
    career
  • 00:12:43
    um so i mentioned i started and came out
  • 00:12:45
    on the corporate finance side so i
  • 00:12:47
    started heavily focused on business
  • 00:12:50
    but i would say that the use of
  • 00:12:51
    technology at least in terms of driving
  • 00:12:54
    decisions and gathering data has made it
  • 00:12:56
    a little bit more interesting so you can
  • 00:12:58
    go all the way as far as um the data
  • 00:13:00
    science route where you're actually
  • 00:13:01
    predicting outcomes and
  • 00:13:04
    using decisions with data to make
  • 00:13:07
    wider business decisions or you can do
  • 00:13:09
    as simply as automating data processing
  • 00:13:12
    and modeling um but all of those things
  • 00:13:15
    combined together to make
  • 00:13:17
    it a little bit more um you know make
  • 00:13:20
    the business run more smoothly um and
  • 00:13:23
    it's interesting just to be able to have
  • 00:13:24
    a skill set where you can provide
  • 00:13:26
    someone with
  • 00:13:27
    either an easier solution or a solution
  • 00:13:30
    fully packaged
  • 00:13:31
    so that's kind of where that interest
  • 00:13:33
    lies and i would say if others are
  • 00:13:34
    interested in
  • 00:13:36
    blending those two things then mis and a
  • 00:13:39
    career in mis is the right place to be
  • 00:13:43
    great
  • 00:13:44
    thank you max
  • 00:13:46
    and then for our next section we each
  • 00:13:49
    had
  • 00:13:50
    each speaker bring a personal topic that
  • 00:13:53
    they wanted to talk about today so to
  • 00:13:56
    start us off we have
  • 00:13:58
    ed berry with his personal topic and i
  • 00:14:00
    believe
  • 00:14:01
    he's going to share a slide
  • 00:14:03
    chris could you give him presentation
  • 00:14:05
    rights
  • 00:14:13
    he should have them
  • 00:14:15
    okay perfect
  • 00:14:19
    i may have to stop sharing my screen
  • 00:14:21
    [Music]
  • 00:14:25
    okay hopefully this is coming through
  • 00:14:26
    for everybody
  • 00:14:28
    here shortly perfect
  • 00:14:31
    okay
  • 00:14:32
    so uh this is actually not a uh ad for
  • 00:14:35
    treasury four but really more to get
  • 00:14:38
    people to think about you know the
  • 00:14:39
    importance of data and the touch points
  • 00:14:41
    of data and and when i when i'm kind of
  • 00:14:44
    bringing on new team members i talk
  • 00:14:46
    about the importance of being able to
  • 00:14:48
    both look through a transaction it
  • 00:14:51
    doesn't have to be specifically like a
  • 00:14:53
    journal entry uh but you look through
  • 00:14:55
    something to understand all of its touch
  • 00:14:57
    points along the way and how it might
  • 00:14:59
    affect your organization
  • 00:15:01
    and so you
  • 00:15:02
    you know the world is changing in terms
  • 00:15:04
    of being able to connect disparate data
  • 00:15:07
    or what had historically been
  • 00:15:09
    viewed as disparate data and in order to
  • 00:15:12
    drive better insight for your
  • 00:15:14
    organization and better look through
  • 00:15:16
    capability so in terms of like treasury
  • 00:15:18
    4 and what we're building
  • 00:15:20
    is the ability to aggregate data on
  • 00:15:22
    behalf of our corporate customers and
  • 00:15:24
    this is types of financial data that
  • 00:15:27
    organizations struggle to get their arms
  • 00:15:29
    around but what they're looking for is
  • 00:15:30
    to have that data brought together so
  • 00:15:33
    that they can drive new and unique
  • 00:15:34
    insights for their organization
  • 00:15:36
    including that look through and
  • 00:15:38
    understanding the touch points
  • 00:15:40
    and that helps you better understand you
  • 00:15:42
    know what are other drivers that you
  • 00:15:44
    historically might not have thought
  • 00:15:46
    would be impacting your function uh
  • 00:15:48
    maybe it's a team member maybe it's a
  • 00:15:50
    certain responsibility maybe it's even
  • 00:15:52
    getting a much more holistic view of
  • 00:15:54
    your organization and its financial
  • 00:15:56
    risks or operational risks and being
  • 00:16:00
    able to tie these things together and
  • 00:16:02
    and there is
  • 00:16:04
    in the world is shifting as well in
  • 00:16:06
    terms of using business intelligence
  • 00:16:08
    tools and data science tools because
  • 00:16:11
    it's no longer about having a number of
  • 00:16:12
    reports right that day should is long
  • 00:16:15
    past uh out of a system really
  • 00:16:19
    what people should be asking is do
  • 00:16:21
    systems have all of the data that i need
  • 00:16:24
    and can i interact with that data using
  • 00:16:26
    my own preferred tools of choice
  • 00:16:28
    or how can i bring it together
  • 00:16:30
    and so i really you know my you know
  • 00:16:32
    personal view is really getting
  • 00:16:34
    instilling in people the ability to look
  • 00:16:36
    through
  • 00:16:37
    and
  • 00:16:37
    transactions but also understand the why
  • 00:16:40
    why is something happening not
  • 00:16:42
    necessarily how but the why behind what
  • 00:16:45
    you're doing or what your organization
  • 00:16:46
    is doing and then how can you better
  • 00:16:49
    leverage data and technology to drive
  • 00:16:52
    those outcomes for your organization
  • 00:16:54
    so i think those are really great things
  • 00:16:56
    to keep in mind and then the other
  • 00:16:58
    observation i'd like to share with
  • 00:17:00
    everybody is the idea of optionality the
  • 00:17:02
    more experiences you have as you go
  • 00:17:05
    through your career
  • 00:17:07
    the more options you will ultimately
  • 00:17:09
    have
  • 00:17:10
    as you grow in an organization uh and
  • 00:17:13
    through your career life cycle
  • 00:17:15
    so never hesitate to raise your hand and
  • 00:17:18
    do something new take on something new
  • 00:17:20
    even if it's unsettling even if it gives
  • 00:17:22
    you a little bit of nervousness
  • 00:17:25
    i found
  • 00:17:26
    in my own career journey that the more
  • 00:17:29
    things i was open to in terms of doing
  • 00:17:32
    or taking on even if they were
  • 00:17:34
    felt insurmountable at the time the more
  • 00:17:37
    options i had down the road
  • 00:17:39
    so i always think about optionality in
  • 00:17:42
    terms of when you're learning things
  • 00:17:43
    when you're doing things
  • 00:17:45
    uh and
  • 00:17:46
    taking on never hesitating to take on
  • 00:17:48
    big projects and big challenges
  • 00:17:51
    so i'll just kind of end there and if
  • 00:17:53
    there's any uh questions i'd be happy to
  • 00:17:54
    take them
  • 00:17:57
    perfect thank you ed yeah if you have
  • 00:17:59
    any questions we will have a
  • 00:18:02
    section for that towards the end um
  • 00:18:05
    share my screen real quick
  • 00:18:11
    perfect awesome and then for our next
  • 00:18:14
    personal topic
  • 00:18:17
    we have fiona talking about focusing on
  • 00:18:19
    the right skills
  • 00:18:21
    yes
  • 00:18:22
    yeah i i kind of struggled to come up
  • 00:18:24
    with a personal topic for this but i
  • 00:18:26
    think um i'm going to draw from a little
  • 00:18:29
    bit of my own experience here of being a
  • 00:18:32
    student in a very wide open marketplace
  • 00:18:36
    right we are
  • 00:18:37
    exposed to so many different
  • 00:18:39
    opportunities especially here in the
  • 00:18:40
    northwest and it's kind of overwhelming
  • 00:18:44
    i mean this is you know looking at the
  • 00:18:47
    potential potentiality of careers and
  • 00:18:50
    the skills that are required on each job
  • 00:18:52
    application can kind of get overwhelming
  • 00:18:54
    um
  • 00:18:55
    i feel like when we go
  • 00:18:58
    to university we take classes on
  • 00:19:00
    specific stuff and we're always asking
  • 00:19:02
    ourselves the question of is this
  • 00:19:04
    actually applicable is learning and
  • 00:19:07
    spending a whole semester learning a
  • 00:19:09
    coding language or making data flow
  • 00:19:11
    diagrams or this sort of stuff is this
  • 00:19:13
    actually useful in my career and am i
  • 00:19:15
    going to be able to leverage this down
  • 00:19:17
    the line or do i need to
  • 00:19:19
    take a bootcamp in python or learn how
  • 00:19:21
    to code an r and i
  • 00:19:22
    want to stress here that the right skill
  • 00:19:25
    is not necessarily what's on your resume
  • 00:19:28
    but it's definitely more on how you
  • 00:19:30
    apply it
  • 00:19:32
    and well well that's generic advice for
  • 00:19:34
    sure
  • 00:19:36
    knowing how to learn is a i think a
  • 00:19:39
    really
  • 00:19:40
    big thing that gonzaga focuses on and
  • 00:19:42
    that's been pretty evident in my success
  • 00:19:44
    in the marketplace um
  • 00:19:46
    i
  • 00:19:47
    have a very traditional career path to a
  • 00:19:49
    large extent when it comes to like the
  • 00:19:51
    recruiting public accounting pipeline
  • 00:19:53
    but
  • 00:19:54
    i
  • 00:19:55
    find the most value and the most use out
  • 00:19:56
    of my ancillary skills the things that
  • 00:19:59
    are adjacent to what i primarily studied
  • 00:20:01
    in school and it's not that i
  • 00:20:05
    feel as though these
  • 00:20:06
    code like learning how to code in java
  • 00:20:08
    isn't useful it's just the way in the
  • 00:20:11
    mindset that we approach
  • 00:20:13
    um the actual applicability of these
  • 00:20:15
    transcends beyond the core uh thing that
  • 00:20:18
    we're actually studying to learn
  • 00:20:20
    so uh
  • 00:20:22
    we have being a student is hard enough
  • 00:20:24
    right so there's this pressure to become
  • 00:20:27
    really technically proficient and i'm
  • 00:20:28
    kind of here to say like
  • 00:20:31
    you don't need to do everything all the
  • 00:20:33
    time the perfection is the enemy of the
  • 00:20:34
    good and
  • 00:20:36
    i have never in my job never used a
  • 00:20:39
    coding language that i learned here at
  • 00:20:40
    gonzaga like i can say that straight up
  • 00:20:43
    but
  • 00:20:44
    one of the things that i found really
  • 00:20:46
    valuable is being able to have a curious
  • 00:20:49
    mindset when it comes to technology uh
  • 00:20:52
    being able to dig my heels in and really
  • 00:20:55
    move forward and take the ways that we
  • 00:20:57
    approach learning new technologies and
  • 00:20:59
    apply that to different aspects i teach
  • 00:21:02
    a lot of trainings to people that are
  • 00:21:04
    much more senior than myself and that's
  • 00:21:05
    because i
  • 00:21:07
    am able to take kind of the mindset of
  • 00:21:09
    somebody that's new and fresh and
  • 00:21:11
    guide them through something that might
  • 00:21:12
    be more complicated or more daunting
  • 00:21:15
    a lot of your jobs that you might go
  • 00:21:17
    into in the future are not necessarily
  • 00:21:20
    sitting down and grinding and being a
  • 00:21:21
    developer but really communicating the
  • 00:21:24
    value of that technology
  • 00:21:26
    understanding why it might be useful and
  • 00:21:28
    then demystifying everything else about
  • 00:21:30
    it because at the end of the day
  • 00:21:32
    technology is supposed to make our lives
  • 00:21:33
    easier not confuse us and not make us
  • 00:21:35
    seem like we're smarter
  • 00:21:38
    and and that gets to why mis
  • 00:21:40
    specifically is important rather than
  • 00:21:42
    you know maybe getting a traditional
  • 00:21:44
    computer science degree uh
  • 00:21:46
    mis is made to be that bridge between
  • 00:21:49
    business and technology and we have to
  • 00:21:53
    be a jack of all trades to
  • 00:21:56
    fit in the right spot and you know our
  • 00:21:58
    first jobs are not necessarily what we
  • 00:22:00
    want to do for the rest of our life but
  • 00:22:02
    being able to take every little bit of
  • 00:22:04
    that learning and development that you
  • 00:22:06
    have on the job and have the
  • 00:22:08
    complementary skills that you learned
  • 00:22:10
    here in school can make you a really
  • 00:22:13
    powerful person in the marketplace
  • 00:22:15
    itself and and propel your career
  • 00:22:17
    forward so uh
  • 00:22:20
    just know that you might not be you're
  • 00:22:22
    not getting pigeonholed here and
  • 00:22:24
    there's so many opportunities and don't
  • 00:22:27
    don't think that you're gonna have to
  • 00:22:29
    go to boot camps and and crash course
  • 00:22:32
    data uh wrangling you know trainings and
  • 00:22:35
    stuff to be to be effective as an
  • 00:22:37
    employee
  • 00:22:39
    i just
  • 00:22:41
    keep calm and
  • 00:22:42
    keep moving forward in mis because
  • 00:22:44
    you're in the right place
  • 00:22:46
    and have really the best opportunity to
  • 00:22:50
    move in a great direction especially
  • 00:22:52
    with the way technology is going right
  • 00:22:54
    now
  • 00:22:56
    great thank you fiona and for our last
  • 00:22:59
    personal topic we have max with creating
  • 00:23:02
    a learning community
  • 00:23:04
    yeah thanks and i
  • 00:23:06
    i think this is going to bridge really
  • 00:23:07
    well with what you know i just said so
  • 00:23:09
    thanks yeah um and i would echo i guess
  • 00:23:11
    um mainly the the big thing that she
  • 00:23:14
    mentioned that i think is going to be a
  • 00:23:15
    big topic of what i'm going to talk
  • 00:23:16
    about too is um remaining curious and
  • 00:23:19
    again it doesn't necessarily have to um
  • 00:23:21
    fit cookie cutter into like what your
  • 00:23:23
    concentration was in school or what your
  • 00:23:26
    specific job title is and i'm going to
  • 00:23:28
    share some anecdotes from my career
  • 00:23:30
    history that i kind of already touched
  • 00:23:32
    on a little bit and then something
  • 00:23:33
    specific that
  • 00:23:34
    i've tried to build a little bit within
  • 00:23:37
    the zags connect community i'm hoping
  • 00:23:39
    that we can maybe do something more
  • 00:23:41
    formal across
  • 00:23:42
    the whole business discipline
  • 00:23:44
    um so the the anecdote i wanted to share
  • 00:23:46
    was i mentioned that i started at amazon
  • 00:23:49
    and the corporate finance side so i came
  • 00:23:51
    in
  • 00:23:52
    i was a finance concentration got my mba
  • 00:23:54
    in finance as well so i really didn't
  • 00:23:56
    come in um with any technical skill set
  • 00:23:58
    i guess beyond basic sql
  • 00:24:01
    um and so i started on a team where we
  • 00:24:04
    kind of had a bunch of different people
  • 00:24:06
    wearing different hats for different
  • 00:24:08
    roles and i was lucky enough to meet
  • 00:24:10
    someone um who came from a very
  • 00:24:12
    technical skill set and um in that role
  • 00:24:15
    that he was in was essentially doing
  • 00:24:17
    something less tangible
  • 00:24:19
    and through meeting him he offered me
  • 00:24:22
    the opportunity to start to learn more
  • 00:24:25
    technical skill sets specifically in
  • 00:24:26
    programming and languages like python
  • 00:24:29
    so through that experience i learned how
  • 00:24:32
    exciting um doing that kind of work
  • 00:24:33
    could be and that was kind of what led
  • 00:24:35
    me down the path to the business
  • 00:24:37
    intelligence engineer route that i'm in
  • 00:24:38
    today
  • 00:24:39
    um so that was my i guess kind of an
  • 00:24:42
    eye-opening moment for me for two
  • 00:24:44
    reasons number one was um i don't
  • 00:24:46
    necessarily think everyone believes it
  • 00:24:47
    but we kind of manifest this idea that
  • 00:24:49
    once we graduate from college um
  • 00:24:52
    learning's kind of done that we just
  • 00:24:53
    take what we've learned and head down
  • 00:24:55
    our path
  • 00:24:56
    we already started down
  • 00:24:59
    but i've personally done it in my own
  • 00:25:01
    experience i know lots of others have
  • 00:25:03
    is that you can change your path many
  • 00:25:06
    many times and you should keep learning
  • 00:25:08
    mainly because it's more fun in my
  • 00:25:10
    opinion
  • 00:25:11
    but also because you never know really
  • 00:25:13
    what you're going to find out what door
  • 00:25:14
    will open later on um so because of that
  • 00:25:17
    i i did make that switch over to a role
  • 00:25:20
    that's considered technical and requires
  • 00:25:22
    some of those skills that are in
  • 00:25:23
    programming
  • 00:25:24
    um
  • 00:25:25
    so the
  • 00:25:26
    the
  • 00:25:27
    kind of idea of a learning community i
  • 00:25:29
    think um also to touch on something that
  • 00:25:31
    ed mentioned i thought was really
  • 00:25:33
    pressing it was um there is a lot of
  • 00:25:36
    that uneasiness especially i'm sure that
  • 00:25:38
    lots of students on this call know this
  • 00:25:40
    um when you start in a new space or try
  • 00:25:43
    to learn these skill set it's very
  • 00:25:45
    um there's so much out there especially
  • 00:25:46
    if like for example if you're learning a
  • 00:25:48
    programming language there's so much you
  • 00:25:50
    can do with even one language although
  • 00:25:52
    in a whole set of different languages
  • 00:25:54
    um and so the learning community to me
  • 00:25:56
    is a good way to ease a little bit of
  • 00:25:59
    that uneasiness um and find a community
  • 00:26:01
    where you can feel like you're not the
  • 00:26:03
    novice in the room and one person who
  • 00:26:05
    doesn't understand what's going on so
  • 00:26:07
    that's why i felt like um when i did
  • 00:26:09
    that made those changes was trying to
  • 00:26:11
    learn that skill set it really helped
  • 00:26:13
    out that one person
  • 00:26:14
    um so you can find a community like that
  • 00:26:17
    you know obviously at gonzaga have
  • 00:26:18
    there's lots of
  • 00:26:20
    classmates and alumni that can provide
  • 00:26:22
    those kinds of opportunities but also
  • 00:26:24
    online there's lots of resources today
  • 00:26:26
    in ed tech and other
  • 00:26:28
    circles that will provide you with um
  • 00:26:31
    like peers that are going through a
  • 00:26:33
    similar process as you
  • 00:26:34
    um and so one of those that i wanted to
  • 00:26:36
    touch on was just uh
  • 00:26:38
    and this is actually how i got connected
  • 00:26:40
    with russell too was um i started this
  • 00:26:42
    little programming um learning series
  • 00:26:44
    where essentially every
  • 00:26:46
    um it was during covid so we would do it
  • 00:26:48
    virtually
  • 00:26:49
    but every couple weeks we would sit down
  • 00:26:51
    together and go through a new
  • 00:26:53
    we started very basically with just
  • 00:26:55
    learning the overalls
  • 00:26:57
    of python and then we would go through a
  • 00:26:58
    new package together and just
  • 00:27:00
    essentially do like an overview of what
  • 00:27:02
    it was and some of the basic concepts
  • 00:27:04
    that you could learn from it um and so
  • 00:27:07
    if others are interested i think we're
  • 00:27:08
    going to plan on expanding that too
  • 00:27:11
    obviously more students want to do the
  • 00:27:13
    python version of it
  • 00:27:15
    well we can absolutely do that but then
  • 00:27:17
    also expand to other languages and other
  • 00:27:20
    skill sets that might be interesting so
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    i think maybe at the end russell might
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    share some contact information but i'm
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    just sending out a before we go into the
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    q a session that i'm very open to
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    connect with other students or um
  • 00:27:32
    graduates who might be interested in
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    joining a community like that
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    great thank you max yeah i was a
  • 00:27:40
    working with max was a great experience
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    and i learned a lot so i would
  • 00:27:44
    definitely encourage other students to
  • 00:27:45
    reach out
  • 00:27:47
    engage
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    so for our next section
  • 00:27:51
    we are going to open it up to questions
  • 00:27:54
    from the students and
  • 00:27:56
    you can send questions in the chat or if
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    you feel comfortable
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    you can unmute yourself and speak into
  • 00:28:03
    the video
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    [Music]
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    give everybody a minute to
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    get some questions
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    see
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    all right well i'm never afraid of
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    asking questions while other people
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    figure out what questions they want to
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    ask so
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    um
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    one of the things that i've been asking
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    in a lot of these sessions is
  • 00:28:43
    what and i think it's particularly
  • 00:28:44
    relevant here what do you what do you
  • 00:28:46
    think is the one skill
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    that is absolutely essential if you're
  • 00:28:50
    going to be successful in a career
  • 00:28:52
    managing technology
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    i'll jump in with that if that's okay
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    chris and i would say
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    curiosity you have to be intensely
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    curious
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    and uh dig into technology especially
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    newer technologies
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    and play with them get familiar with
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    them learn them even become experts in
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    them but that all starts with having
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    intense curiosity
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    yeah plus one would i just said it maybe
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    more specifically a growth mindset so
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    always wanted to go a little bit further
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    than you've got already if you've done
  • 00:29:27
    something curious recently maybe do
  • 00:29:29
    another thing
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    and and to kind of wrap up and
  • 00:29:35
    it's essentially the same thing as you
  • 00:29:37
    guys are saying but
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    you're going to always have an
  • 00:29:41
    opportunity to
  • 00:29:43
    be able to move into a new space
  • 00:29:45
    nothing's on
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    ed you responded with python
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    do you guys want to talk a little bit
  • 00:29:53
    about the technical needs
  • 00:29:55
    associated with
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    um being in technology i mean you know
  • 00:29:59
    that that i think for some students
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    that's a concern
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    how much technical skill do i have to
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    bring
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    to the job to be able to be successful
  • 00:30:08
    and understand it can you talk a little
  • 00:30:09
    bit about how you see technology being
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    leveraged
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    i'll jump in on that and i would say you
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    know
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    learning how to work with the tools
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    right the tools that are out there that
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    are quickly advancing you know whether
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    it's kind of robotic process automation
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    rpa tools
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    or tools that are like postman that are
  • 00:30:28
    making it easier to integrate with apis
  • 00:30:31
    where you don't necessarily need to know
  • 00:30:33
    you know specifically how to code that
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    you you can tap into these tools and
  • 00:30:38
    still drive uh outcomes for your
  • 00:30:40
    organization
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    and so i think you know it's really
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    looking at where technology is going in
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    the business world whether it's you know
  • 00:30:47
    things like rpa or apis or business
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    intelligence
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    and making the most of the tools that
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    are out there including you know things
  • 00:30:56
    that are coming out like low code
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    development platforms
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    other comments max fiona
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    i think the only thing that i think that
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    summarizes it pretty well um
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    it depends on the role heavily i would
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    say just in my experience in terms of
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    at amazon
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    but having a good understanding of how
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    to build a program or write programming
  • 00:31:23
    languages is definitely always helpful
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    but i don't think it's
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    essential for every job
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    yeah i would agree it's understanding
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    the problem first and then trying to
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    find the best language or technology to
  • 00:31:36
    to use
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    is going to be way more effective than
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    just trying to spitball different um
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    coding languages so like i have to use
  • 00:31:45
    typically excel based technologies
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    because that's what most of my clients
  • 00:31:48
    use and then trying to
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    maybe uh research in that space of
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    what's going to be the most efficient
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    that i can get and get down into from a
  • 00:31:56
    technical side
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    and russell i see a couple of other
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    comments in the chat
  • 00:32:04
    i don't know if you wanna oh yeah yeah
  • 00:32:07
    so we have uh from brianna we have what
  • 00:32:10
    mis based class do you recommend or was
  • 00:32:12
    your favorite class to take a gonzaga
  • 00:32:15
    i think that'll be for fiona
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    yeah yeah for me it was the the final
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    capstone course um
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    while i appreciate in the sequel class i
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    i do
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    i do use quite often but being able to
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    document and and do a full business
  • 00:32:31
    proposal i i have found immensely
  • 00:32:34
    helpful um
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    just understanding and being able to
  • 00:32:37
    quickly read data flow diagrams or
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    process flow charts or anything of the
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    kind makes me quite an asset because my
  • 00:32:45
    team will be faced with a giant erp
  • 00:32:47
    system and they'll just send them to me
  • 00:32:49
    and i can kind of explain the process
  • 00:32:50
    without anybody having to walk me
  • 00:32:52
    through it just based on being able to
  • 00:32:55
    navigate into different environments uh
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    frequently
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    i i didn't expect it to be the most used
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    class but at the end of the day that is
  • 00:33:03
    like day to day
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    it just keeps coming up so
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    um
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    i have a question um this could be for
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    anybody i know max you talked about kind
  • 00:33:17
    of building that learning community and
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    um
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    i was just curious to hear about kind of
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    your process of networking and building
  • 00:33:25
    that learning community and then
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    for all the panelists um
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    just kind of if you could speak to
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    like do you have an easier time learning
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    from other people like learning in a
  • 00:33:38
    group through experience or is it easier
  • 00:33:40
    for you to kind of focus on your own
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    through some online resources
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    yeah i'm happy to take that that first
  • 00:33:47
    one that you said um
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    so uh
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    just as in terms of the
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    um avenue that i decided to go down
  • 00:33:55
    because i thought that a lot of students
  • 00:33:56
    were on zags connect that's what we used
  • 00:33:58
    um so i'd recommend it i think it's been
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    a really really nice tool
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    um when i've used it to connect with
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    current students and alumni
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    so if anyone's not on that i'd recommend
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    checking it out
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    and then i'll answer the general
  • 00:34:11
    networking one too i think
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    a lot of the networking events for me
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    personally when i was a student in early
  • 00:34:18
    out of college weren't necessarily
  • 00:34:20
    relevant in terms of finding my
  • 00:34:22
    interests and so i think that's maybe
  • 00:34:24
    difficult especially in person to
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    find a community that shares a lot of
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    especially if you're you know blending
  • 00:34:30
    business and technology there's so many
  • 00:34:32
    different specific concentrations you
  • 00:34:34
    can go down so i would say
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    honestly the internet has some really
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    really great communities and and even
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    though it's not as formal in terms of
  • 00:34:42
    networking that's how you can build up
  • 00:34:45
    you know a community and also a brand by
  • 00:34:47
    learning those skills so that's just
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    what has worked for me but i know
  • 00:34:50
    everyone has
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    different ways that they go about doing
  • 00:34:53
    it
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    one of the avenues that
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    has helped me tremendously in the
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    corporate treasury side is i've
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    participated in
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    corporate treasury peer groups uh with
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    other
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    people from treasury departments at
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    other companies
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    and there was specifically there's an
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    organization in the u.s that does a
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    really good job of that or two
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    organizations actually uh and being able
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    to go you know about every six months um
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    travel to an another
  • 00:35:24
    peer group member's office with
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    you know 20 25 other people that are
  • 00:35:30
    doing the same thing that i was doing or
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    similar and just be able to share best
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    practices and experiences
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    in a confidential safe way
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    because in the corporate treasury space
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    it's very much an experiential career
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    path uh there's it's uh
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    there's a lot of things that you do
  • 00:35:48
    that are
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    uh you know unique to each organization
  • 00:35:51
    but they have common themes to them and
  • 00:35:53
    so that ability to to participate in
  • 00:35:55
    those peer groups and do that peer
  • 00:35:57
    knowledge exchange has been hugely um
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    beneficial for for my career growth and
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    i've been benefited
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    enormously from that so that's that's
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    really more on the kind of that
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    corporate treasury perspective and i
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    think on the application side of things
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    it's taking advantage of all the
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    different learning
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    uh avenues that are out there whether
  • 00:36:18
    it's online uh webinar uh even hey i'm
  • 00:36:22
    still old school i like to print out
  • 00:36:24
    paper and read things uh tangibly and
  • 00:36:27
    make notes and highlight and
  • 00:36:30
    but you have to approach it through that
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    kind of constant learning uh
  • 00:36:34
    and in always finding something unique
  • 00:36:37
    and valuable out of what you're
  • 00:36:38
    investing your time in
  • 00:36:40
    that can add value for yourself and your
  • 00:36:42
    organization
  • 00:36:46
    yeah and something i'll add with the
  • 00:36:49
    networking aspect and
  • 00:36:51
    being able to
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    extend yourself outside of your own
  • 00:36:54
    organization what they're teaching you
  • 00:36:57
    public accounting for me is a really
  • 00:36:59
    high turnover
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    industry and i think that's becoming
  • 00:37:03
    more of the norm rather than the
  • 00:37:04
    exception nowadays and so keep in close
  • 00:37:07
    contact with the people that you like to
  • 00:37:09
    work with people that knew you best and
  • 00:37:11
    understood your skill sets because
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    they're going to be instrumental as
  • 00:37:14
    being like hey we're you know if you you
  • 00:37:16
    contact them after a few years that
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    they're a new place um we're using this
  • 00:37:20
    technology i think you'd be a really
  • 00:37:21
    good fit for it that's probably the best
  • 00:37:24
    way to get somebody and some experience
  • 00:37:26
    from people that really understand who
  • 00:37:28
    you are as an individual rather than you
  • 00:37:30
    know
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    for me generalized trainings aren't
  • 00:37:33
    necessarily as effective but when you
  • 00:37:36
    can kind of pinpoint hey i can
  • 00:37:38
    transition this uh skill set that i have
  • 00:37:41
    into something new i think it opens up a
  • 00:37:43
    lot of doors and it provides a clear
  • 00:37:44
    pathway to success
  • 00:37:47
    awesome um
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    i think kind of building off that
  • 00:37:50
    question i know fiona you had talked
  • 00:37:53
    about
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    uh kind of buzzwords and like there's
  • 00:37:56
    all these new technologies that are
  • 00:37:58
    coming out it's kind of hard to pick
  • 00:38:00
    which ones but
  • 00:38:01
    i was just curious if there's kind of a
  • 00:38:03
    process that each of you go through
  • 00:38:06
    in deciding what your companies will
  • 00:38:08
    adopt or what kind of you yourself what
  • 00:38:10
    skills you'll add and then i know ed you
  • 00:38:13
    have to kind of decide overall what the
  • 00:38:15
    company would use so i'm just curious to
  • 00:38:17
    know what you guys have to say about
  • 00:38:18
    that
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    yeah well like for us at treasury 4 you
  • 00:38:22
    know we have both uh software engineers
  • 00:38:25
    developers that are coding in visual
  • 00:38:28
    studio and on the microsoft cloud so and
  • 00:38:30
    they have specific development um that
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    they
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    personal development goals and skills
  • 00:38:36
    that they're uh
  • 00:38:38
    uh you know focused on and then our at
  • 00:38:41
    the rest of our team is
  • 00:38:42
    uh
  • 00:38:43
    also you know learning tools like
  • 00:38:45
    tableau or power bi or some of the rpa
  • 00:38:48
    tools and so everybody in our company
  • 00:38:50
    has to have a personal development goal
  • 00:38:52
    for the whole year and whether that's a
  • 00:38:54
    certification that they're trying to
  • 00:38:56
    achieve or some class or course that
  • 00:38:58
    they're taking and it could be as varied
  • 00:39:00
    as things like uh course and product
  • 00:39:03
    management or project management those
  • 00:39:05
    are two different disciplines but also
  • 00:39:07
    technical skills uh relative to coding
  • 00:39:10
    or use of specific applications so but
  • 00:39:13
    everybody in our company is required
  • 00:39:14
    including myself and so i
  • 00:39:17
    have to you know follow my own uh
  • 00:39:19
    guidance and
  • 00:39:20
    carve out time specifically to learn new
  • 00:39:23
    technologies and new capabilities
  • 00:39:26
    [Music]
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    i can go next to um i would say i'm
  • 00:39:33
    definitely not driving the tank or bar
  • 00:39:35
    at amazon by any means
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    but
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    uh
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    i would say two sides first the
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    colleagues that i have um within my own
  • 00:39:44
    group and wider team
  • 00:39:46
    um
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    it's very common for us to have learning
  • 00:39:49
    sessions and informal chats especially
  • 00:39:51
    when we were in the office um about the
  • 00:39:54
    work we were doing and then maybe share
  • 00:39:56
    an interesting project that we worked on
  • 00:39:57
    and like say a package or
  • 00:40:00
    a visualization tool that helped us do
  • 00:40:03
    the work more quickly than the standard
  • 00:40:05
    so that was one way and then the other
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    way i would say for sure is again
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    through those um online communities that
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    um i'd become a part of some a
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    combination of the two
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    yeah and for deloitte it's kind of hard
  • 00:40:19
    to adopt new technologies sometimes
  • 00:40:21
    because of the confidentiality of our
  • 00:40:23
    clients information we have to go
  • 00:40:25
    through a pretty rigorous qa process of
  • 00:40:27
    quality assurance
  • 00:40:29
    um but i
  • 00:40:31
    whenever we have a big proposal if we
  • 00:40:33
    want to invest a lot of development time
  • 00:40:34
    maybe start using a new technology
  • 00:40:37
    first understanding the problem because
  • 00:40:39
    you're going always going to have to
  • 00:40:40
    communicate that upward
  • 00:40:42
    if you find something you think might be
  • 00:40:44
    helpful and then making a formal
  • 00:40:45
    business case um not anything fancy but
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    just
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    really bulleting out why we should use
  • 00:40:51
    this why nothing else
  • 00:40:53
    no other
  • 00:40:54
    you know technology or coding language
  • 00:40:56
    could attempt to solve this problem as
  • 00:40:58
    quickly or as efficiently and having
  • 00:41:01
    that ready when you are communicating
  • 00:41:02
    that and moving forward in your process
  • 00:41:05
    not just to get approval from uh like
  • 00:41:08
    your manager or something but to
  • 00:41:10
    be able to explore all options because
  • 00:41:13
    somebody has probably had this problem
  • 00:41:14
    before you
  • 00:41:16
    always worth a quick certainty if
  • 00:41:18
    there's um the hard leg work is
  • 00:41:22
    always smarter not harder
  • 00:41:27
    awesome
  • 00:41:28
    and then kind of
  • 00:41:30
    going along with the skills topic how do
  • 00:41:32
    you go about building
  • 00:41:34
    more so the business skills is that
  • 00:41:36
    solely through experience or is there
  • 00:41:38
    resources that you guys use to
  • 00:41:40
    educate yourselves further
  • 00:41:50
    i can jump in on this i think uh
  • 00:41:53
    mentorship is uh really
  • 00:41:56
    this is for me personally um to seek
  • 00:41:58
    somebody that does have the business
  • 00:42:01
    skills that you might want and you see
  • 00:42:03
    them interact with either clients or
  • 00:42:05
    in meetings and really they have a great
  • 00:42:08
    way of
  • 00:42:10
    understanding either the marketplace or
  • 00:42:12
    the problems they're trying to solve so
  • 00:42:14
    forming a lasting relationship and
  • 00:42:17
    scheduling regular touch and kind of
  • 00:42:18
    being proactive about that can
  • 00:42:20
    further along um
  • 00:42:23
    all those little questions that can't
  • 00:42:24
    necessarily be solved by like a
  • 00:42:26
    technical training right kind of
  • 00:42:27
    navigating within the workspace and
  • 00:42:30
    when it comes to you know interviewing
  • 00:42:32
    for new positions or exploring maybe uh
  • 00:42:35
    mergers or partnerships uh having
  • 00:42:37
    somebody that has been in the the
  • 00:42:38
    business for me personally because i'm
  • 00:42:41
    uh you know so new into my career has
  • 00:42:43
    been instrumental of gaining that
  • 00:42:44
    confidence to know that you're moving in
  • 00:42:46
    the right direction
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    [Music]
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    i would echo that as well especially
  • 00:42:53
    when you're starting out in your career
  • 00:42:55
    early on mentorships are really really
  • 00:42:58
    key and it becomes harder the older you
  • 00:43:00
    get and the you know and if you kind of
  • 00:43:02
    rise in your uh career
  • 00:43:05
    in um
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    you know it's hard to maintain
  • 00:43:08
    mentorship and so it's important that as
  • 00:43:10
    you do that you give back being a mentor
  • 00:43:14
    so it goes both ways and there's just a
  • 00:43:16
    lot that comes from mentors
  • 00:43:19
    in terms of you know the cup
  • 00:43:20
    organizations
  • 00:43:22
    culture
  • 00:43:24
    helping people frame things frame
  • 00:43:26
    decisions think about it in different
  • 00:43:28
    perspectives uh and i think you know
  • 00:43:31
    finding several good mentors can be
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    invaluable for your career
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    yeah i don't have anything yet i thought
  • 00:43:39
    those are both great answers um maybe
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    the only piece that i could say is uh
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    asking specific questions so when you do
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    find that
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    that mentor or coach or um whoever it is
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    um asking questions like if you saw them
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    um make a really intuitive leap say like
  • 00:43:56
    what was it that brought you to that
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    place so just trying to learn as much as
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    you can by asking those specific
  • 00:44:02
    questions but yeah no i thought those
  • 00:44:03
    were great answers
  • 00:44:05
    great thank you guys um
  • 00:44:08
    and also i just wanted to kind of touch
  • 00:44:10
    on
  • 00:44:11
    maybe building communication skills i
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    know that can be a struggle for some
  • 00:44:15
    students at the beginning just
  • 00:44:17
    kind of um communicating more technical
  • 00:44:20
    topics to more business people and then
  • 00:44:22
    also vice versa so is there
  • 00:44:24
    any kind of process you get you guys go
  • 00:44:26
    through that makes that easier or is
  • 00:44:28
    there any specific way that you've built
  • 00:44:30
    up those skills as you've gone along
  • 00:44:36
    yeah i'm happy to take this one because
  • 00:44:37
    it's pretty relevant to my role day to
  • 00:44:39
    day um
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    especially over
  • 00:44:42
    uh with during covert era when it's not
  • 00:44:43
    in person it's been at least for me like
  • 00:44:46
    even more difficult and i would say that
  • 00:44:48
    uh the thing that i've learned the most
  • 00:44:50
    maybe just because in my role i've
  • 00:44:52
    worked with
  • 00:44:53
    so many people like at least a couple
  • 00:44:55
    dozen that have you know different
  • 00:44:56
    priorities and different roles
  • 00:44:58
    um it's learning how to communicate with
  • 00:45:01
    each person in their own
  • 00:45:03
    individual way or if it's a group
  • 00:45:05
    learning how to communicate with that
  • 00:45:06
    group in a way and um using a mechanism
  • 00:45:09
    that you think works for that situation
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    so if it's a group maybe it's um
  • 00:45:13
    a weekly business review or monthly
  • 00:45:14
    business review because that gets the
  • 00:45:16
    highlights that everyone needs for their
  • 00:45:18
    respective roles or if it's an
  • 00:45:20
    individual person like some people
  • 00:45:22
    really don't like to have uh even you
  • 00:45:24
    know assume type call they'd prefer to
  • 00:45:26
    do it informally over a slack or a
  • 00:45:28
    messenger
  • 00:45:29
    so it is just learning what your
  • 00:45:31
    stakeholders
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    prefer the most and adapting to that so
  • 00:45:35
    i guess maybe just to summarize
  • 00:45:36
    adaptability is a big part of that i
  • 00:45:38
    think
  • 00:45:42
    i would echo that adaptability is key
  • 00:45:45
    uh for sure and i think intentional
  • 00:45:47
    communication and i think the thing i
  • 00:45:49
    continue to learn uh is
  • 00:45:52
    less is often more you know how do you
  • 00:45:54
    distill topics down to
  • 00:45:57
    uh something that is you know clear and
  • 00:45:59
    concise
  • 00:46:00
    and not overly burdened with you know
  • 00:46:03
    acronyms or technical jargon
  • 00:46:08
    yeah i you guys basically said it all
  • 00:46:11
    it's it's about getting comfortable and
  • 00:46:14
    yeah understanding who you're working
  • 00:46:15
    with because it's it's not a
  • 00:46:17
    one-size-fits-all issue here
  • 00:46:19
    um and i know from this is like a very
  • 00:46:22
    you know if you have a toolkit you're
  • 00:46:24
    trying to understand how to communicate
  • 00:46:26
    something that's maybe more technical um
  • 00:46:28
    leverage the people that aren't as
  • 00:46:29
    technical in your life and say hey can i
  • 00:46:31
    just give this five minute does this
  • 00:46:33
    make sense to you am i communicating
  • 00:46:34
    this in the right way um and sometimes
  • 00:46:37
    if i'm giving like presentations or a
  • 00:46:39
    business pitch i'll record myself giving
  • 00:46:40
    the presentation and watch it back how
  • 00:46:43
    however uncomfortable it is it's
  • 00:46:44
    probably the best way to uh feel as
  • 00:46:47
    though you know you're saying the right
  • 00:46:49
    things in the right moment
  • 00:46:51
    and kind of get over that initial fear
  • 00:46:53
    because i've definitely lost some
  • 00:46:54
    communication skills during the pandemic
  • 00:46:56
    and it's been a little bit rough trying
  • 00:46:58
    to get those back for sure
  • 00:47:04
    great thank you for that everybody um
  • 00:47:06
    and then it's kind of a one final
  • 00:47:08
    question before we
  • 00:47:11
    head into the closing comments um
  • 00:47:14
    why did you guys choose the career path
  • 00:47:16
    you did
  • 00:47:17
    [Music]
  • 00:47:20
    well to be honest i fell into mine so i
  • 00:47:24
    never had a big plan other than i knew
  • 00:47:27
    that being a river rafting guide wasn't
  • 00:47:28
    going to pay the bills long term so uh
  • 00:47:31
    but i
  • 00:47:32
    kind of fell into the corporate treasury
  • 00:47:34
    space and i found really found my
  • 00:47:36
    passion around it because it's a really
  • 00:47:37
    interesting space it's an intersection
  • 00:47:39
    of
  • 00:47:40
    markets and technology and banking and
  • 00:47:42
    the organization itself so bringing all
  • 00:47:45
    being at that intersection is just a
  • 00:47:47
    really great spot to be
  • 00:47:54
    yeah i already mentioned it a couple
  • 00:47:56
    times i obviously have kind of gone back
  • 00:47:58
    and forth into a couple different roles
  • 00:47:59
    and didn't study mis and now i'm in a
  • 00:48:01
    role that's mis concentrated so um i
  • 00:48:04
    would say just again kind of to bring it
  • 00:48:06
    back to what fiona and i said earlier
  • 00:48:08
    about the curiosity aspect so maybe if
  • 00:48:10
    you don't necessarily find something
  • 00:48:12
    immediately that you're passionate about
  • 00:48:14
    and looking for that passion
  • 00:48:16
    searching for it
  • 00:48:20
    yeah and and to be honest you know
  • 00:48:23
    nobody grows up really wanting to be a
  • 00:48:25
    tax accountant like it's not
  • 00:48:27
    on like i you know i don't have any
  • 00:48:29
    heroes that
  • 00:48:31
    guide me here but i i think for me
  • 00:48:34
    leaning and kind of again falling into
  • 00:48:36
    this role to some extent i i mis allows
  • 00:48:40
    me to have a very great impact in some
  • 00:48:42
    ways and and fill a gap that is not
  • 00:48:45
    necessarily explored by people that
  • 00:48:47
    could maybe move into a more creative or
  • 00:48:51
    like sexier industry this is
  • 00:48:54
    for me my day-to-day is all about like
  • 00:48:57
    being able to make people's lives just a
  • 00:48:59
    little bit easier and i feel like
  • 00:49:00
    wherever you're at whatever career you
  • 00:49:02
    end up to be in um if you can find a
  • 00:49:05
    piece of that and kind of cling on to it
  • 00:49:08
    that's what i've done and you know you
  • 00:49:09
    can find
  • 00:49:11
    happiness within that so
  • 00:49:13
    good for god
  • 00:49:17
    great well we have about five minutes
  • 00:49:19
    left so if there was any closing remarks
  • 00:49:22
    from you guys that you wanted to share
  • 00:49:24
    before we
  • 00:49:25
    head out
  • 00:49:28
    um i would just say
  • 00:49:31
    encourage everybody to be a lifelong
  • 00:49:32
    earner
  • 00:49:33
    learner
  • 00:49:35
    and
  • 00:49:36
    no question is a dumb question so ask
  • 00:49:38
    questions it's really important when you
  • 00:49:39
    start out in the organization to ask as
  • 00:49:43
    many questions and understand the why
  • 00:49:44
    behind things not just the how but the
  • 00:49:47
    why
  • 00:49:48
    and uh
  • 00:49:49
    and
  • 00:49:50
    always learn something new every day and
  • 00:49:51
    that will open up many options for you
  • 00:49:58
    yeah maybe in the same vein um make
  • 00:50:00
    mistakes i actually think that some of
  • 00:50:02
    my best learnings or outcomes that came
  • 00:50:05
    from uh mistakes that i made help my
  • 00:50:07
    career the most um or maybe don't make
  • 00:50:10
    the same mistake twice but make it the
  • 00:50:11
    first time
  • 00:50:16
    yeah and and
  • 00:50:18
    you know this is your major your
  • 00:50:20
    concentration your field of study does
  • 00:50:22
    not define you
  • 00:50:24
    and you can always switch jobs you can
  • 00:50:26
    always switch careers
  • 00:50:27
    um so never never fall into the sunk
  • 00:50:30
    cost fallacy when it comes to that if
  • 00:50:31
    there's something you're passionate
  • 00:50:32
    about go for it because uh the pres you
  • 00:50:35
    know the present is the best time to do
  • 00:50:37
    things that you're going to want to do
  • 00:50:38
    so don't hesitate
  • 00:50:43
    great
  • 00:50:44
    well thank you so much to everybody
  • 00:50:47
    sorry about the slight mishap we had
  • 00:50:49
    earlier i'm glad everyone was able to
  • 00:50:51
    stay on and we could continue i know
  • 00:50:54
    that um
  • 00:50:56
    there have been some questions about
  • 00:50:57
    contact information and
  • 00:50:59
    we'll have to follow up with that after
  • 00:51:02
    uh maybe by email with a along with the
  • 00:51:04
    video of the recording and then
  • 00:51:06
    um chris was there anything you wanted
  • 00:51:08
    to close us out with
  • 00:51:10
    only to thank uh all of you russell
  • 00:51:13
    fiona max ed for your uh your time today
  • 00:51:17
    and to thank everybody on the call and
  • 00:51:19
    then um and uh wolf for your patients
  • 00:51:23
    with the intrusion
  • 00:51:25
    um
  • 00:51:26
    like uh like dean pepper said um
  • 00:51:29
    these are
  • 00:51:30
    it's it's sometimes disturbing when
  • 00:51:32
    events like that happen in the middle of
  • 00:51:34
    an opportunity for community we'll
  • 00:51:36
    figure out what we can do to make sure
  • 00:51:38
    that that doesn't happen again
  • 00:51:40
    but i appreciate everybody hanging on
  • 00:51:41
    and i think that there was a lot that we
  • 00:51:44
    we could take from today's discussion so
  • 00:51:47
    thank you all for making time to share a
  • 00:51:49
    part of your day with us
  • 00:51:51
    thank you all right thanks everybody
  • 00:51:53
    we'll see you again next monday
  • 00:51:55
    thank you bye
  • 00:52:05
    okay
  • 00:52:06
    sweet
  • 00:52:07
    [Music]
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