Ronan Farrow explains how your phone could be used to spy on you

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概要

TLDRThe video discusses the serious privacy issues involving smartphones potentially spying on users, as highlighted in the HBO documentary "Surveilled." This documentary explores how phones can track your movements, access personal data such as photos and emails, and even turn on microphones and cameras without your knowledge. Such spyware technology, originally claimed to help prevent terrorism and crime, is now allegedly violating civil liberties. The documentary shares examples of spyware like Pegasus used against journalists, political dissidents, and ordinary citizens in countries including Spain and even within Western democracies. It highlights concerns over potential misuse of such technologies by government agencies to suppress political opposition and monitor individuals, endangering freedom of expression and privacy. Viewers are urged to be more cautious with their phone activities and to advocate for regulations to prevent misuse of spying technologies.

収穫

  • 🔍 Smart phones might be spying on you, accessing personal data discreetly.
  • 📱 Spyware technology can activate your device's camera and microphone.
  • 🎥 HBO's "Surveilled" documentary examines this surveillance issue.
  • 🕵️ Known figures like Jamal Khashoggi were targeted by spyware.
  • ⚠️ Spyware misuse in democracies poses serious civil liberty risks.
  • 👁️ Spyware Pegasus used against activists and dissidents globally.
  • 🔒 Regularly rebooting phones can mitigate some spyware.
  • 🗣️ Civil liberties and privacy face threats from unchecked surveillance.
  • 🛡️ Advocacy for regulation against misuse of such technology is crucial.
  • 🚨 Awareness and caution are necessary for digital safety.

タイムライン

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    The segment introduces the topic of smartphone surveillance, highlighting the concerning reality that phones can spy on users by accessing their personal data and activating microphones and cameras covertly. This is the focus of a new HBO documentary "Surveilled," which is scheduled for release soon. It explores how effectively phones can be hacked to extract data and even take control of functions such as the camera. The discussion involves serious privacy concerns and surveillance technologies, shedding light on the tension between security measures against threats and infringement on civil liberties.

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ビデオQ&A

  • What is the HBO documentary "Surveilled" about?

    The documentary reveals how smartphones can spy on users by tracking their every move and accessing personal data, including photos and emails.

  • How do spyware companies justify their programs?

    Spyware companies claim their programs help prevent terrorism and fight crime, but critics argue they violate civil liberties.

  • Have any known figures been affected by this spyware?

    Yes, figures like journalist Jamal Khashoggi and others have been affected, with spyware like Pegasus being used against them.

  • What example is given of spyware use in Western democracies?

    The documentary mentions spyware being used in Spain against political dissidents and activists, and similar cases in Poland and Greece.

  • What can individuals do to protect themselves from spyware?

    Individuals can avoid clicking on unfamiliar emails and texts, and regularly reboot their phones to mitigate some spyware.

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    Are buried, lead now buried.
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    That is what we call stories
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    we think deserved much more attention
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    than they're getting.
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    It's the one object most of us
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    probably would not want to leave home
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    without our smartphones,
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    but a new documentary reveals
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    how your phone could
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    actually be spying on you,
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    not just tracking your every move,
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    but handing over your access
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    to all your personal photos
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    and your texts
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    and your emails,
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    even turning on your phone's
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    microphone and camera,
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    recording you without
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    you even knowing it.
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    It's a terrifying scenario,
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    and it's no longer
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    the stuff of sci fi thrillers.
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    You can learn about it in the new HBO
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    documentary surveilled,
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    which comes to HBO on Wednesday.
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    Take a look.
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    So you're hacking these phones.
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    What kinds of reactions did you get?
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    It's George Bush.
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    It's burning for the first time.
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    Just what was the pitch
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    that you were offering these governments?
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    Usually we have like one iPhone one
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    and two hours
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    used to demonstrate
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    how you can read the data
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    from these devices effectively.
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    Take snapshots of the screen and pictures
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    from camera.
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    It took me about 4.5%.
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    What should the average citizen
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    in any country in the world
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    know about this company
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    and this technology?
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    It's very easy.
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    It's very interesting.
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    Should people be concerned?
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    Yeah, yeah.
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    You're now Pulitzer Prize
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    winning journalist and producer
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    of HBO
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    documentary surveilled,
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    which I should note, like
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    CNN is owned by Warner Brothers.
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    Discovery here with us, Ronan Farrow.
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    Ronan, good to see you.
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    Congratulations
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    on the new docs of spyware.
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    Companies say
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    that their programs can help
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    authorities prevent terrorism,
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    fight criminals.
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    But critics
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    also warn
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    that spyware can violate civil liberties.
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    And you have firsthand experience
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    because you've been
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    a target of spyware
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    because of your reporting
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    on Harvey Weinstein.
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    Explain all of this.
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    I have been targeted by both old school
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    surveillance and also tech driven
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    surveillance room,
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    have had my phone location
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    tracked, for instance,
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    and it opened up a world to me of
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    just how commonplace this is
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    and what we've seen in recent
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    years, Jake,
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    is that the world already knows that
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    under repressive regimes,
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    this happens all the time.
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    We saw
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    the prominent
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    example of Jamal
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    Khashoggi, the Washington Post journalist
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    who was murdered,
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    and there was an allegation
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    that on the phones of people around him,
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    this very powerful spyware,
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    Pegasus, was found.
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    Pegasus can turn your phone
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    into a listening device.
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    It can without you ever knowing,
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    crack into your photos,
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    your most personal data.
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    and we've seen a string of those examples
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    around the world,
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    but now we've seen it
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    happen in Western democracies
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    over and over again.
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    And part of this film is set in Spain,
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    where we document
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    one of the largest clusters
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    of political dissidents opposition
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    politicians, activists,
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    civil society members, all being hacked.
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    And we've seen similar scandals
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    in Poland, in Greece.
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    So part of the message of this
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    film is it could happen here.
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    And that we've seen
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    the beginnings of that,
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    that under the first Trump
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    administration,
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    there was the purchase of this same
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    technology, Pegasus,
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    the FBI said, only to test.
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    But the New York Times later reported
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    they came very close
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    to operationalizing it.
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    And in recent months,
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    we've seen ice, for instance, purchase
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    a similar powerful
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    Israeli spyware technology
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    from a company called Paragon.
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    So you now have Donald Trump
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    coming in
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    with campaign promises,
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    including mass deportation
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    and technology
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    that could really transform
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    the way that those promises are executed
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    in a way
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    that civil liberties
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    experts and privacy law experts
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    tell me everyone should be afraid of.
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    Whether you're in a vulnerable category
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    like a journalist or an activist
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    or someone awaiting an immigration
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    hearing or not.
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    Because once you start
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    using this without guardrails,
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    what we've seen in
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    all of these cases around
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    the world is democracy falls away,
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    and suddenly people
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    who don't expect to be on
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    lists are being targeted.
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    And it's a basis for them
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    being intimidated.
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    So there is a fascinating scene
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    in your documentary
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    where now former
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    member of the European Parliament
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    from Spain,
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    who was in favor of independence
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    for Catalonia,
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    has his phone tested to see
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    if it had been infected with spyware
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    and it was determined that it had
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    been at least twice?
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    what is it like to find
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    out that
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    there has been surveillance going
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    on, electronic surveillance
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    going on in for you
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    since you went through that, too?
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    And what can I do?
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    What can our viewers do
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    to try to make sure
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    that this doesn't happen to them,
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    other than not clicking on
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    unfamiliar emails and texts and all that?
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    Well, that little vignette
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    is a great example of the stakes,
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    because that's a politician
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    who is peacefully pushing
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    for a specific agenda.
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    In this case, there's a
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    an autonomous region in Spain's
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    semi-autonomous Catalonia
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    that you mentioned,
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    and there's a lot of activists there,
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    and there's politicians
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    representing the people there.
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    We think it should be independent.
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    You can agree with that or not.
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    But what you saw
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    is that his discussions
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    of that policy effort in private
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    and in the European Parliament
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    were potentially all
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    being disgorged to his political enemies,
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    who at the same time were cracking down.
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    The regime in Madrid, was behind
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    a bunch of violent,
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    arrests and crackdowns in that region.
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    so you see a shrinking space
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    for just forms of free expression,
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    and that means, you know,
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    less freedom of press, less
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    freedom of political opposition.
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    Everyone should be worried about that.
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    And the other part of your question
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    on a personal level, it's devastating.
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    We also have the stories in this film
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    of just innocent bystanders, completely
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    apolitical family
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    members of people who were targeted,
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    who also got infected.
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    We have another scene where,
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    you know, the sibling of an activist,
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    it gets tested and they find in real time
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    she's been infected.
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    We have, you know, doctors
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    whose patients information is compromised
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    and you don't know where
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    that information is going
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    or how it's going to be held over.
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    You used against
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    you used as a basis
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    for some illicit arrest.
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    Now, these are things
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    we don't expect in a democracy,
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    but it is happening in democracies.
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    And we have the tools here
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    in this government to do it increasingly.
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    So what the Trump administration does on
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    this is going to be pivotal.
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    Well, what what should Congress do?
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    What should journalists do?
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    What should the public do?
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    A couple of simple things.
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    I mean, one is
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    if you care about this issue
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    and you see these stories
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    and you're moved by it,
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    and you see how invasive this is
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    and how it shrinks
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    the space for you
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    to operate freely in our society,
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    you should write to your representative
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    and say, hey,
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    I care about regulation and legislation
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    that is going to prevent this
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    from being a free
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    for all
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    like we've seen in
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    some of these other Western
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    democracies, too,
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    on a personal basis,
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    shut off your phone every day, rebooted.
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    That doesn't foil every form of spyware,
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    but it foils a lot of them. Jake.
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