Indian Church a Victim of American Theology? | Part 7 | Vishal Mangalwadi & Prakash Gantela

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概要

TLDRThe discussion focuses on the differences between the Christian church in India and the West, specifically America. The speaker examines how the decline of Christian hospitals and educational institutions reflects a broader weakening of the church’s influence in both regions. Historically, missionaries played crucial roles in India's social development, yet the current generation is struggling to sustain these advancements. The speaker critiques both Indian and American churches for moving away from social responsibility. They propose a transformative approach, called the Third Education Revolution, where Indian churches become centers of learning, offering online education and empowering communities through micro-businesses and cooperatives. This model emphasizes harnessing technology and changing the pastoral role to be more community-driven, aiming to uplift society while maintaining strong theological values.

収穫

  • 📉 The decline of Christian institutions in both India and the West is interconnected.
  • 🏥 India's Christian healthcare has significantly diminished since independence.
  • 📚 The Third Education Revolution aims to transform Indian churches into educational hubs.
  • 🌾 Historical Christian contributions to India include the Green and White Revolutions.
  • 🧑‍🏫 Pastors can become pivotal educational and community leaders.
  • 🌍 American theological influence has both positively and negatively impacted the Indian church.
  • 💻 Online platforms can enable churches to offer formal education.
  • 🤝 Community cooperatives can economically uplift poor regions.
  • 🔄 Revitalizing the church’s mission can address educational and financial inequalities.
  • 📜 Historical missions greatly shaped modern Indian society.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The discussion highlights the decline of Christian hospitals in India, paralleled by the decline in Protestant hospitals in the USA. The speaker criticizes the American Church for losing interest in healthcare and education, which has negatively impacted the Indian church's ability to sustain its own institutions. The decline is attributed to the shift in American theology, which moved away from a focus on abundant life and community well-being. The speaker suggests that the deterioration of Western Christianity has influenced the disintegration of similar institutions in India.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The speaker brings attention to the historical impact of Christianity on India’s development, particularly through missionaries like William Carey. The missionaries were instrumental in initiating India’s agricultural revolution and medical advances, impacting the nation’s self-sufficiency. The social gospel movement is critiqued for succumbing to secularism, creating a disconnect between spiritual and societal welfare. The speaker highlights the failure of current theological institutions in both the West and India to recognize and teach this historical impact.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The dialogue continues by criticizing American theology for lacking depth and failing to recognize the historical contributions of figures like William Carey. The speaker asserts that the decline in Christian intellectual culture has led to a misunderstanding of Christianity’s potential impact, both in the West and in India. They emphasize the inability of current institutions to educate about the intersection of faith with societal and scientific advancement, suggesting a loss of vision in both American and Indian Christianity.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The discussion shifts to potential solutions for revitalizing the Indian church's education system by leveraging technology. Instead of traditional institutions, the speaker envisions empowering the poorest communities through online education, suggesting a redefined pastoral role that includes educational and economic leadership. There's a call to transform the church into centers for learning and social improvement, which could counteract the negative influence of Western theological ideas on Indian Christianity.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:28:42

    Wrapping up, the speaker underscores the need for a practical, community-oriented approach among pastors, focusing on education and economic empowerment. They advocate for a shift away from abstract theology to applied principles that directly affect people's lives. The discussion concludes with a vision for a revitalized educational framework that equips individuals to uplift communities. This mission aims to create sustainable change free from the perceived negative influences of Western theology on Indian church practices.

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  • What is the biggest difference between the church in India and the West?

    The weakness of the church in India is linked to the decline of the church in the West, particularly in areas like education and healthcare.

  • How many Christian hospitals existed in India at the time of independence?

    At the time of independence in 1947, India had 800 Christian hospitals and clinics.

  • How does the speaker suggest the Indian church can improve?

    By turning churches into educational hubs that offer online degrees and by engaging pastors as community leaders.

  • What historical impact did the church have in India?

    The church contributed to advancements in healthcare, agriculture, and education, including the Green Revolution.

  • What is the Third Education Revolution?

    It's a proposal to transform Indian churches into educational centers using technology to offer degrees and uplift communities.

  • Why is the Indian church influenced by American Christianity?

    Indian church leaders often seek education and funding from the U.S., adopting American theological perspectives.

  • What role does technology play in the suggested improvements for the church?

    Technology such as online learning platforms can be used to provide education and degrees through local churches.

  • What does the speaker criticize about American theological influence?

    The speaker criticizes the American church for focusing less on social responsibility and practical community engagement.

  • How can Indian churches help improve local economies according to the speaker?

    By organizing communities into cooperatives and teaching trade skills to improve economic opportunities for the poor.

  • What is the potential impact of revitalized church efforts?

    They could lead to educational and economic upliftment for underprivileged communities in India.

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    drel coming back to the
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    church in your opinion what is the
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    biggest difference between the church in
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    India now and the church in the West in
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    particular uh uh Church in
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    America well I'm sorry to say that the
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    weakness of the church in India is
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    really weakness of the Church of the
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    West uh 10 days ago we were in perkley
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    uh University
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    California with a conference organized
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    by successful Indian doctors MH they
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    worked in India and they came to America
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    and succeeded in
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    America and in 2016 they were deeply
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    concerned about the state of rural
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    hospitals in
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    India at the time of Independence
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    1947 India had 800 Christian Hospitals
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    and Clinics
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    today India has only 200 Christian
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    Hospitals and Clinics the rest are
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    closed and
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    sold out of these
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    200 about 100 are in
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    ICU struggling for their survival yes
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    and the chances that they will survive
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    are very
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    little so the western
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    church for 150 years was able to build
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    Health bring Abundant Life to India
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    bring health and healing and nurses to
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    India Indian church is not capable of
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    sustaining and building upon it what has
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    happened well the problem is the
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    American Church 50 years ago in
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    Minnesota in the Twin Cities of St Paul
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    and
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    Minneapolis three out of four hospitals
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    were Protestant hospital today there's
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    not a single Protestant Hospital in
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    Minneapolis St
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    Paul there are still two three Jew Roman
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    Catholic Hospitals but no Protestant
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    Hospital Protestant what we we proud of
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    idas SC Edith Brown CM Cil or CMC
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    Lana America doesn't have one
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    respectable Protestant Medical
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    University
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    now the last big one was the Oral
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    Roberts University a Medical University
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    that was sold to lalinda 7day Adventist
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    good lalinda is a very good uh 7day
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    Adventist School Protestant Church in
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    America is not interested in Abundant
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    Life for the sick the poor the
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    needy
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    so last year 171 colleges Christian
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    colleges closed down in
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    America sad
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    so if the Indian church is not capable
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    of running the colleges the university
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    movement that it received it is because
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    the Western Christianity has been
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    corrupted by the Western
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    seminaries it's a very different
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    Spirit um so what was it in the spirit
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    of the 17th 18th 19th early 20th century
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    that was building these nations blessing
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    these
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    nations which has
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    disappeared and Christianity in the west
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    America Evangelical Christianity is the
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    most pessimistic Escapist defeated
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    religion Indian Christian leaders come
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    here they want to raise money they
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    cannot speak
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    prophetically into the damage that
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    American theology has done to American
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    Christianity and that is reflected in
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    Indian chrisan on the liberal Wing so
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    one big
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    problem was
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    1910
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    Edinburgh conference on world
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    missions William Kerry had proposed that
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    100 years earlier but for 100 years the
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    Western missions couldn't organize a
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    global consultation conference on World
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    missions when they organized it in
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    Edinburgh Scotland
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    1910 the Protestant movement
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    split into Social Gospel and simple
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    gospel the social gospel movement
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    surrendered to secularism rationalism
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    became liberal had no gospel eventually
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    yes but the simple Gospel Movement
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    rejected the rich Legacy m
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    of the Abundant Life The Blessing the
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    political
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    legal um judicial medical educational so
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    the we mentioned Med Healthcare but the
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    entire agricultural Green Revolution in
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    India came with the gospel it's William
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    Kerry a cobbler Bible translators who is
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    create helping to create the IND civil
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    services he begins the first Agri
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    Horticultural Society 1820 you can go
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    into Agri Horticultural Society in Katan
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    and his marble bust as I mentioned would
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    welcome you but then sarur coton the
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    cotton barage he's turning the whole
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    godavari Delta into the rice bowl of
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    India rice bowl of India exactly he is a
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    military engineer who is asked to build
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    a bridge over godavari he says no we
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    have to build a dam we have to build the
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    canal system and he has to fight now he
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    his father is an evangelist his daughter
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    is an evangelist Elizabeth May who lives
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    next door to Charles Darwin uh and so
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    he's a witness now I can go on talk
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    about the ganga canals and the Punjab
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    Canal system how the evangelicals built
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    it Sam hgan botam comes he is a
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    philosopher who has come to reach the
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    dalits mhm but he's told to teach
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    economics he says I don't know how
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    economics how can I teach they said know
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    you study economics and teach and he
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    finds the nothing of British American
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    economic textbooks have any relevance to
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    alabad because there is no Bank there is
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    no insurance system there is no
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    um trade Etc so he finds that the best
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    economic activity in alahabad is
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    happening in N jail there is a military
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    uh colonel who has been appointed Jailer
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    and he's decided that every prisoner who
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    comes into this jail must go out as a
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    better person so he is teaching himself
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    how to look after cows and go goats and
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    chicken and how to make smoke free
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    Chulas and heat efficient cooking
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    systems and he's teaching all the
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    prisoners so saman bam is inspired to
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    start a laal agricultural Institute
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    which is now in agricultural
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    University
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    yes so the miss movement is the the
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    white Revolution white revolution in
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    1998 India became number one producer of
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    milk beating
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    America and that milk Revolution also
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    began in alahabad agriculture Institute
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    with saman bam buying a Cow Milking the
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    cow because his wife was angry that she
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    can't get clean milk in alabad for her
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    children uh so he had already worked in
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    da as a young man and but he gave a
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    lecture in Princeton Theological
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    Seminary in
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    1919 on the kettle problem of India so
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    here is a
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    philosopher who is speaking in Bible
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    seminary in Princeton on the kettle
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    problem of India that is published in
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    1921 in 1924 the first modern animal
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    husbandry begins in alahad and one in
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    South India somewhere near Vora I
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    forgotten where
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    out of that in 74
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    years the milk
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    revolution has happened in India based
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    on Buffalo not on cows um but that's
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    another story then comes Norman burlock
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    during Mrs Gandhi's time with Ashok Maha
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    bringing him to begin India's Green
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    Revolution so the entire transformation
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    of India's Agriculture and milk is an
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    Evangelical
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    movement but which Seminary is teaching
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    this yes which church history program is
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    teaching the Bible's impact and this is
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    because the American Church historians
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    don't know anything they know they know
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    that William Kerry is the father of
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    modern missions they don't know that
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    William Kerry is the father of modern
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    India because to make that claim you
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    have to know enough about Indian history
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    and if you don't know Indian history you
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    only know church history you can't know
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    that William Kerry is the father of
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    modern India so the degeneration of the
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    Christian mind in the west has impacted
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    the degeneration of the Christian mind
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    in India now this is very strong words
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    but CS Lewis one of Lewis's prodiges was
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    uh blamar Harry blamar he wrote a book
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    called the Christian
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    mind that book begins with the statement
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    that there is no such thing as a
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    Christian mind now this is
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    1960s Christian mind is dead in the West
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    now and he was
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    right Mark null is one of the most
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    respected Evangelical historians in
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    America he followed up with a book
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    called the scandal of the Evangelical
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    mind this is a
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    book Scandal of the Evangelical
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    mind and he begins by saying that the
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    scandal of the Evangelical mind is that
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    there is very little of it
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    M so you know we we talking about Indian
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    history we're talking about milk
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    production then the whole milk
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    revolution in India white revolution in
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    India is a result of a lecture given by
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    a philosopher in a Theological Seminary
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    in America but which Theological
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    Seminary in India today would have a
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    lecture on the cattle problem of
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    India so
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    so you you asked me what's the
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    difference between the American
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    Christianity and Indian Christianity and
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    I'm saying that Indian Christianity is
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    the victim of American Christianity
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    American Christianity has blessed us but
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    also imposed its own weaknesses and
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    Foles upon us our preachers our
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    theologians they come here to get a PhD
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    they come here to raise money they
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    cannot exercise prophetic ministry here
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    because they cannot afford to displease
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    the Christian leadership in America
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    which has messed up this nation and has
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    messed up
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    India let us uh wrap up quickly Dr Ral
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    you were talking about in the beginning
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    that uh we need to study both the word
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    of God and the works of God taking from
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    Francis Bacon and then just now a little
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    while ago you said that simple gospel
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    has lost uh this um social concern and
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    the Social Gospel uh is given to
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    secularism and rationalism so what
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    should be the approach of the church and
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    the stand of the church um having said
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    all this uh for the future praise God
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    that we can turn the poorest the weakest
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    Church in India into the world's finest
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    University it needs no professors it
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    needs no
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    buildings it needs change of Outlook of
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    the
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    pastor if the pastor would become a
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    shepherd
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    M 10 15 students coming into the church
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    5 days a
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    week we will send 5,000 professors into
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    the church
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    online every student can be tested and
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    assessed according to his ability and
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    interest a privatized curriculum can be
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    developed so every single lesson a week
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    scores a month scores a semester scores
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    and when you have done 120 credits in
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    American sense you qualified for a
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    bachelor's
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    degree so every the poorest Church in
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    India can be giving bachelor's
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    degree master's degree
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    online this is not Theory this is
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    exactly how
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    RI is the first engineering College in
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    India now it's IIT yes it began under a
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    tree
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    with an son of a pastor who was an
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    military
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    engineer saying that we should not be
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    worshipping ganga we should be building
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    ganga barage channeling the water in
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    1840s this is 17 years before the Mutiny
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    before the Revolt 1840 there was a
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    famine in North India there is so much
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    water in ganga and
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    Y the land between the two rivers is
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    called daa land of Two Rivers
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    why is there this water not being used
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    to
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    irrigate the Hindu Brahman pandits do
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    not want you to mess with holy
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    ganga they are opposing building of the
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    barrage and the ganga
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    Canal on YouTube there is a very
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    powerful video on the ganga Canal made
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    by the current director of ganga Canal
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    project who is a Hindu and he's saying
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    this that the pandits were opposing
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    building of Ganga bar so the British had
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    to negotiate that okay we will
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    build uh GS where people can come and
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    bathe even during monsoon they will not
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    drown because we will control the flow
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    of the water and then this water will
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    irrigate whole of North India but there
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    are no engineers in India to build the
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    canals so to to train Engineers that you
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    have to get some young men who want to
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    establish human dominion over the river
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    instead of worshipping the river so they
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    build
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    uh the characters are very interesting
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    who are building this ganga Canal system
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    the barage system and irrigation system
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    uh which to irrigate North India and
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    that grows into the ri engineering
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    College which becomes Engineering
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    University which BEC comes I RI this is
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    entirely Evangelical movement and these
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    are military engineers and governors who
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    are all products of the Evangelical
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    movement um so what was their biblical
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    worldview that God wants to bless India
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    that God has given India to us not to
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    loot India but to bless India and that's
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    what has brought them here so the under
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    the Evangelical influence Britain had
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    three colleges to train civil servants
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    one was in Kolkata Fort William College
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    two were in England where younger kids
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    went one of them was military leaders
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    including military engineers who were
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    building these Canal systems roads
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    Bridges Etc to transform India but none
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    of this history interests our
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    theologians and our
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    seminaries and so your question is what
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    can we do for the the church well the
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    answer is that this third education
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    Revolution can deliver the Indian Church
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    from the corrupting influence of
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    American Theology and we can transform
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    every Church in India into the force
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    that will move the backward cast and
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    backward the scheduled cast schedule
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    tribes obcs forward giving them the best
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    teaching at the cheapest rate the using
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    uh internet artificial intelligence
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    Etc the decisive question is whether the
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    pastors see themselves as uh Shepherds
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    or not what do you mean by pastors as
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    Shepherds can you briefly
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    explain
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    um well I I should stick with with the
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    education though I wanted to go into
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    agriculture when I was teaching in
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    alahad Sami badam University one day one
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    of my students asked me sir do you want
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    to go to the other side of the river to
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    see Islam I said sure now we were not
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    allowed to swim across the river because
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    too dirty too dangerous so we had to
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    cycle around when I went
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    there there was a young man 17year old
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    with torn clothes teaching 30 kids who
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    were sitting on a street this is a dead
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    end Street there's no traffic on both
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    sides mothers and sisters are cleaning
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    vegetables cleaning dishes cooking
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    dinner he's teaching them the kids are
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    excited that a university Professor has
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    come they stand up and sing it they all
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    from Hindu homes they sing a Christian
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    song I'm very
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    impressed by this young man I invite him
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    to come for a Saturday dinner he comes
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    home he eats with me we walk around in
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    the campus of shuats
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    next day he attends the church following
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    weekend he comes again spends the night
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    with me the third weekend by that time
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    we've become good friends so he tells me
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    sir this year I'm not going to pass my
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    intermediate exam I'll
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    fail why because I don't understand math
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    why not well the teacher doesn't explain
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    to us there are some students they
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    understand what he's teaching but these
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    are students who are taking private
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    tutions from him he is a government
  • 00:18:59
    teacher he's not allowed to take private
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    tution but his sister-in-law is allowed
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    so she runs the tution center he teaches
  • 00:19:08
    she collects the
  • 00:19:10
    money I can't pay so we don't understand
  • 00:19:14
    what he's saying so we'll fail my home
  • 00:19:17
    is about 100 km away my father has no
  • 00:19:21
    confidence Village in Village School he
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    sent me to the city school hoping that
  • 00:19:25
    City will school will be better I I live
  • 00:19:29
    with four other young men in a one room
  • 00:19:32
    apartment all of them have dropped out
  • 00:19:34
    of school they're working as daily wage
  • 00:19:37
    laborers Etc the TV is on 24 hours I
  • 00:19:41
    can't concentrate and the exams are 3
  • 00:19:43
    months
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    away so I said to him okay you come move
  • 00:19:48
    in with my me for 3
  • 00:19:50
    months the university had given me a lap
  • 00:19:53
    desktop which I was not using so I set
  • 00:19:55
    it up for him enrolled him in KH Academy
  • 00:19:59
    it's K and Khan Academy which is a
  • 00:20:02
    mathematics teaching
  • 00:20:04
    program he could read English but he
  • 00:20:06
    didn't understand so I taught him how to
  • 00:20:09
    translate the content of Khan Academy
  • 00:20:12
    using Google translat dictionary.com Etc
  • 00:20:15
    into Hindi so our dining table became
  • 00:20:19
    his language
  • 00:20:21
    school I gave him a bilingual Bible
  • 00:20:24
    English and Hindi so he could read Hindi
  • 00:20:27
    and English Bible to understand learn
  • 00:20:31
    English our conversation about English
  • 00:20:34
    language became lessons in philosophy
  • 00:20:36
    theology apologetics Hinduism Buddhism
  • 00:20:41
    Etc he fell in love with math thanks to
  • 00:20:44
    Khan
  • 00:20:46
    Academy and 3 months later passed
  • 00:20:49
    intermediate in first
  • 00:20:53
    division
  • 00:20:55
    now between the ex exams and the
  • 00:21:02
    results 3 months summer I asked Dr ral's
  • 00:21:07
    assistant to give Bishop L's bicycle to
  • 00:21:11
    him Bishop L had bought some bicycles
  • 00:21:14
    which he was not allowed to use he had
  • 00:21:16
    to go in car so his Cycles were been
  • 00:21:19
    sitting so this guy started going to
  • 00:21:22
    another slum got 20 30 kids with
  • 00:21:27
    him and started teaching
  • 00:21:31
    them uh there was a friend from Dallas
  • 00:21:37
    M who was visiting
  • 00:21:39
    me and he went to see this school in the
  • 00:21:44
    slum and he decided to donate 13 tablets
  • 00:21:49
    oh for $30 each he bought wholesale from
  • 00:21:53
    pun to donate 30 tablets we downloaded
  • 00:21:57
    the entire High School curriculum from
  • 00:21:59
    up government on each of the tablets so
  • 00:22:03
    three students who are 5y old of two
  • 00:22:06
    students who are six-year-old would
  • 00:22:07
    study together with one tablet and help
  • 00:22:10
    each other learn and he will walk around
  • 00:22:12
    to make sure that they understand that
  • 00:22:14
    they are not fighting that they are
  • 00:22:16
    studying Etc so one man who doesn't have
  • 00:22:19
    clothes torn up clothes he has 13 uh
  • 00:22:23
    tablets he's teaching about 30 students
  • 00:22:27
    every day I'll go once in a week to play
  • 00:22:29
    with them talk to talk to the kids there
  • 00:22:32
    is no electricity no internet in the
  • 00:22:35
    slum so the tablets have to come to my
  • 00:22:37
    home every day and to be recharged
  • 00:22:41
    MH now I had a very good friend Arun
  • 00:22:47
    sh's nephew his wife was
  • 00:22:50
    malali she sent it big jar of fish
  • 00:22:53
    pickle Kerala fish
  • 00:22:56
    pickle so this guy
  • 00:22:59
    Kip he's eating that fish pickle he
  • 00:23:01
    loves it he wants the fish pickle every
  • 00:23:03
    day so he says I will learn to make fish
  • 00:23:06
    pickle and eat every day I said I said
  • 00:23:09
    no no no no you get those women whose
  • 00:23:12
    children you are
  • 00:23:13
    teaching ask them to make fish pickle
  • 00:23:16
    every morning in the Bank of Y there is
  • 00:23:20
    Fish
  • 00:23:21
    Market they should pick up the best fish
  • 00:23:24
    they should learn to make fish pickle
  • 00:23:25
    now they don't they living in Islam they
  • 00:23:27
    don't have any kitchen m
  • 00:23:29
    one of the professors lady she offered
  • 00:23:31
    to teach them how to make fish pickle
  • 00:23:33
    mhm and I said that during the day I'm
  • 00:23:36
    not at home they can use my kitchen to
  • 00:23:38
    make fish pickle you pack it King's Fish
  • 00:23:42
    pickle mhm and we have 1,200 families
  • 00:23:46
    working in the University you sell it to
  • 00:23:49
    them you get to eat fish pickle the
  • 00:23:52
    women who are collecting plastic
  • 00:23:55
    bottles have now learned a skill M if
  • 00:23:59
    they can make fish pickle they can make
  • 00:24:01
    chili pickle and lime pickle and mango
  • 00:24:03
    pickle and lemon pickle and you Market
  • 00:24:06
    it yes this is your
  • 00:24:08
    business
  • 00:24:09
    now this young man is not a
  • 00:24:15
    theologian he's not a teacher but he is
  • 00:24:19
    a
  • 00:24:20
    Shepherd who is making a difference to
  • 00:24:24
    the minds of these
  • 00:24:25
    children and changing the economy of the
  • 00:24:31
    women who are living in the
  • 00:24:34
    slums now in other shepherding is
  • 00:24:37
    building their lives for the
  • 00:24:39
    future this is what every Pastor can do
  • 00:24:44
    to
  • 00:24:45
    educate the
  • 00:24:47
    poor organize them as health
  • 00:24:51
    cooperatives agricultural cooperatives
  • 00:24:54
    an
  • 00:24:55
    illiterate woman
  • 00:25:00
    has very little she can do in the
  • 00:25:02
    village she can't
  • 00:25:04
    Farm can she roast peanuts can she fry
  • 00:25:09
    peanuts spicy peanuts plain
  • 00:25:12
    peanuts can those peanuts be packed by a
  • 00:25:16
    young man with good brand M King's
  • 00:25:20
    peanut King spicy peanuts exported all
  • 00:25:24
    over the
  • 00:25:27
    world that that woman if we give her a
  • 00:25:30
    little credit to buy the right oil right
  • 00:25:33
    spices and they may not she may not have
  • 00:25:35
    a kitchen so but we could rent a kitchen
  • 00:25:39
    where women can come okay Monday morning
  • 00:25:41
    you and Monday afternoon you and Monday
  • 00:25:44
    night you so the 24 hours that kitchen
  • 00:25:46
    is being used and the simple people are
  • 00:25:51
    learning how to make
  • 00:25:53
    money and this is being exported
  • 00:25:56
    globally if they are repaying their debt
  • 00:26:00
    this is micr financing they're repaying
  • 00:26:02
    their
  • 00:26:03
    debt then you have um a credit history
  • 00:26:09
    that when that your son needs a laptop
  • 00:26:12
    because tablet is not good enough
  • 00:26:14
    anymore to learn statistics and learn
  • 00:26:15
    designing and this and
  • 00:26:17
    that you have a credit history that he
  • 00:26:20
    can
  • 00:26:21
    buy on loan a laptop yes so you need to
  • 00:26:26
    organize we know haven't talked about
  • 00:26:29
    health cooperatives but agricultural
  • 00:26:31
    Cooperative Dair cooperatives Agri AG
  • 00:26:35
    Enterprises Cooperative uh Health
  • 00:26:37
    cooperatives Etc this is what Shepherds
  • 00:26:40
    need to be doing but we are victims of a
  • 00:26:45
    theology here in America that oh Jesus
  • 00:26:48
    will come back when the last unreached
  • 00:26:50
    people group has heard the gospel
  • 00:26:52
    there's no need for us to make a
  • 00:26:54
    difference to their education or to make
  • 00:26:56
    a difference to their economy or their
  • 00:26:57
    health care or teach them Banking and
  • 00:27:00
    Cooperative movement but this a new kind
  • 00:27:03
    of a pastor who is a Shepherd to the
  • 00:27:08
    Sheep this is what is needed and this is
  • 00:27:12
    one of the first courses that we intend
  • 00:27:13
    to offer a a ba or an MA or a diploma if
  • 00:27:20
    you don't qualify for a ba in how to be
  • 00:27:24
    a teacher so here is the 17 18y old boy
  • 00:27:27
    who is become a teacher how to be a
  • 00:27:30
    teacher using available
  • 00:27:32
    technology and a Shepherd so applied
  • 00:27:36
    Theology and not the Tulip kind of
  • 00:27:39
    theology which is abstract discussion
  • 00:27:42
    that has no uh meaning or significance
  • 00:27:46
    so that's this mission of the third
  • 00:27:49
    education Revolution which we can
  • 00:27:52
    transform every village the remotest and
  • 00:27:55
    the poorest Village in India if we can
  • 00:27:59
    be freed from the corruption of
  • 00:28:03
    Christian theology in the west that has
  • 00:28:06
    damaged the Indian
  • 00:28:09
    church thank you so much Dr Vel well
  • 00:28:12
    thank you for coming and explanation
  • 00:28:15
    thank you we had planned this but as you
  • 00:28:19
    edit and post it hopefully it will have
  • 00:28:22
    an impact in Indian church and Beyond
  • 00:28:25
    yeah thank you even to Alex um thank you
  • 00:28:29
    for his patient uh tech
  • 00:28:32
    support thank you so much I hope our
  • 00:28:34
    viewers enjoy this and be enlightened
  • 00:28:37
    yes well thank you thank you so much
  • 00:28:39
    thank you yeah God bless
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