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welcome everyone this is my launch review
with testing and benchmarks for amd's new
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ryzen 9000 Series processors at least the
two that launched today the 6 core 9600X
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and the 8 core 9700x this review is going to be
a little bit weird though a little bit different
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compared to my normal CPU launch reviews
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Link in the video description so if you're not
familiar with the Intel situation affecting 13th
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and 14th gen Raptor Lake CPUs there has been
instability intermittent crashing even the
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possibility of degradation and CPUs failing over
time Which Intel has addressed to some degree but
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we are still waiting on their actual patch their
actual fix to get those CPUs supposedly functional
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in a way that won't cause them to fail down the
line Intel has promised that that patch will be
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coming out in mid August but it's not available
yet I am not currently comfortable recommending
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Intel 13th to 14th gen CPUs until that patch
launches and we cannot properly compare these
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new AMD CPUs to Intel until we can get that patch
so we're going to need some more time I do have
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some AMD versus AMD numbers to share with you
I'm going to throw in some Legacy values here
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and there so you can get a bit of an idea of
how these stack up to the competition let's
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get started though by looking at a spec comparison
for the four CPUs that I'm testing today these new
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9000 Series processors are using the new Zen
5 microarchitecture but you will notice some
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similarities between the specs otherwise since
we are still looking at 6 core 12 thread CPUs and
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8 core 16 thread CPUs but a big highlight I want
to point out right from the start here is we have
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price reductions if you compare to the 7000 series
when they launched the 7700x was $400 MSRP at
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launch versus the 9700x which is now $359 or $360
so that's a $40 drop right there meanwhile the
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9600 X is going to be selling for $279 and that
is a $20 drop versus the 7600 X which debuted for
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$290 so AMD is theoretically offering us better
pricing better efficiency thanks to the zen5 micro
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AR texture and lower tdps and possibly even better
performance we'll find that out in just a moment
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but keep in mind that in terms of CPU performance
we tend to split that into two categories there
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is compute performance which is usually measured
using synthetic benchmarks or running workstation
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tasks the stuff you do on a computer to actually
get work done and then there is gaming performance
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which is how well a CPU can keep up with
a graphics card and in this case we are
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testing the fastest graphics card currently on the
market the RTX 490 the rest of the components for
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the test Des bag can be seen right here it's not
pretty but it gets the job done we're featuring an
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Asus Rog Crosshair x670 hero motherboard the CPU
Cooler is a Corsair h150i Elite LCD 360 mm AIO
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which is overkill for the processors we're testing
today but I use that to maintain consistency with
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theoretical future tests I might be doing next
week and for those who don't want to spend $100
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or $200 on an AO I did some air cooler testing too
we also have a 32 gig gskill tradent Z5 Neo ddr5
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6000 memory kit a kyia XG 6 1 TB mvme SSD Corsair
ax600 i600 W power supply and we're running the
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latest patched version of Windows 11 let's start
off with some power draw numbers looking at the
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CPU package power the peak measured during testing
as well as system power overall while running the
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blender monster test note that the 7600 X which
is going to be the lowest performing CPU in my
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benchmarks is also the highest power draw of the
CPUs I'm testing the 7,000 series was no slouch
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in terms of efficiency so these results would
look even better if I was comparing them directly
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to Intel let's get into some compute benchmarks
though starting with cinebench R23 I am throwing
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some Legacy numbers in here just so you have some
points of comparison but please note that the
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four CPUs I'm highlighting are the ones that were
tested most recently versus the 7600 X though the
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9600 X is about 9.5% faster and then versus the
7800 x3d which is going to run at a lower clock
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speed compared to the 7700 x3d for example the
9700x is about 10.5% faster switching over to
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single thread scores which is where the Zen 5
architecture is supposed to provide some nice
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gains the 9600 X was 11.5% faster than the 7600
X and the 9700x was 24.5% faster than the 7800 X
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3D here's maxon's newer cinebench test cinebench
2024 here the 9600 X was about 8.1% faster than
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the 7600 X and the 9700x was 7.2% faster than
the 7800x 3D once again switching to single
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threaded scores the 9700x here with its slightly
higher clock speed was able to Edge out the 9600
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X which 137 that puts the 9700x 22.3% ahead of the
7800x 3D while the 9600 X was 13.4% ahead of the
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7600 X here's one more synthetic test pass Mark
11's CPU Mark sweet and once again the 9700x had
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some decent gains over the 7800x 3D coming in 5.2%
faster in the multi-threaded test while the 9600
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X was a lot closer to the 7600 X here only 3.3%
faster but again switching over to single thread
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results shows some more impressive gains the 9700x
was 24.7% faster than the 7800x 3D here while the
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9600 X was 10.7% faster than the 7600 X and now
let's move to some software you can actually use
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here's blender 4.2.0 running the open data 3.1
test which runs monster junk shop and classroom
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giving a total samples per minute score so higher
is better a total score of 274.50 9700x 8.4% ahead
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of the 7800x 3D D while the 9600 X was 99.3% ahead
of the 7600 X here's handbrake to show off video
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transcoding performance we have an encoding speed
as FPS and then time in seconds where lower would
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be better the 7800x 3D actually edged out the
9700x in this test coming in with the fastest
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time of 143 seconds which was less than 1% ahead
for transcoding performance as well the 9600 X
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and 7600 X were also quite close only a 0.4%
Improvement for the six core 9000 series CPU
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here's Corona 10 which gives a score in raise
per second where the 9700x hit a top score of
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6,878 348 that put it 15.7% ahead of the 7800x
3D while the 9600 X hit more than 5.5 million
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putting at 14.7% ahead of the last gen 7600 X and
my last compute Focus Benchmark is 7 zip testing
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file compression and decompression and here my
results were a little bit anomalous the 9,000
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Series came in slower than the 7,000 series that
preceded it although not by much the 9700x was
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less than 1% behind the 7800x 3D in compression
did manage to Edge It Out by 3.1% in decompression
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while the 9600 X was about 1.5% behind the 7600
X in compression and a little over 5% behind in
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decompression rounding things up for my charted
numbers we have 3D Mark time spot extreme showing
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the graphics and CPU score here we can see that
the graphics score for the 4090 was within 1%
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for all four of the CPUs tested which shows you
that when you're not in a CPU limited situation
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all four of these CPUs can keep up with the 4090
at least in this test we'll see if that bears out
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in my game testing and then the CPU Focus test
once again showed some nice gains for the 9000
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series with the 9700x coming in 11.1% ahead of
the 7800x 3D and the 9600 X coming in 4.1% ahead
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of the 7600 X and now for some gaming benchmarks
but I decided to do these a little bit differently
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with side-by-side performance comparisons because
since these CPUs cost about $280 and $360 MSRP and
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the 7800x 3D the fastest CPU for gaming currently
can go for around $350 to $375 on sale the obvious
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question for a lot of Gamers who are about to buy
a new system would be should I get the new 9000
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series or should I just go with the 7800 x3d or
wait for the 9000 x3d CPUs to launch which should
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theoretically be coming out later this year per
rumors so let's start off with cyberpunk 2077
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running 1920x 1080 with the rate TR Ultra preset
dlss balanced enabled and Ray reconstruction and
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frame generation turned off I tested at 1080 and
4K at 1080 we are more CPU limited and at 4K it's
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a bit more of a reasonable resolution for the RTX
490 here at 1080 though the 9600 X was about5 to
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120 FPS on average while we're inside the bar that
cranks up a little bit to about 125 to 140 Peak
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versus the 9700x which is a little bit faster
115 to 125 inside and getting up to 125 to 140
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40 frames per second Peak the 7800x 3D maintains
a consistent and substantial lead though at 140
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to 150 FPS peing at 165 to 175 switching over to
4K or 3840 X 2160 the 9600 X struggles a little
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bit more Hing 80 to 85 FPS on interior and 90 to
100 Peak the 9700x is just about the same maybe
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a few FPS faster 80 to 90 FPS on the interior
and peing 90 to 100 just behind the 7800 x3d
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that the Gap is much closer here versus 1080 with
the 7800x 3D getting to 80 to 90 FPS maybe 95 then
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peing around 100 or just over our next game is
Starfield here at 1080 we're running with the
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ultra preset Dynamic resolution is turned off the
9600 X managed 100 to 115 FPS lows dipped down to
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85 to 100 the 9700x was once again just a little
bit faster 105 to 120 FPS on average with lows
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dipping to the 90 to 100 range and once again
this 7800x 3D was able to EK quite a few more
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frames out of the RTX 490 130 to 155 FPS with
lows staying well above 100 in the 115 to 125
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FPS range switching over to Starfield at 4K the
FPS dips a bit but not a whole lot we're at 90 to
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105 for the 9600 X about 95 to 115 for the 9700x
lows are around 80 to 90 range for the 9600 X and
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90 to 100 for the 9700x note the GPU usage here
is maxed out at 90 8 to 99% while running at 4K
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which is why there's not as much of a gap with the
7800 x3d around 100 to 120 next up we have f123
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at 1920x 1080 we're running the ultra high preset
with d LSS quality turned on and reflex turned off
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here the 9600 X was in the 180 to 205 frames per
second range lows occasionally dipped down to 165
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to 180 the 9700x managed to stay a few more steps
ahead of the 9600 X versus other titles it got
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up to 200 to 230 frames per second with lows down
in the 175 to 185 range while the 7800 x3d was
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able to maintain lead over both 9,000 Series CPUs
once again switching to 4K once again for f123 the
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9600 X and 9700x are pretty much neck and neck
here getting about 140 to 155 frames per second
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on average lows occasionally dipping to 130 to
140 range here we're pretty much entirely GPU
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dependent at this resolution although the 7800x 3D
does still maintain a narrow lead finally we have
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Microsoft flight simulator because there's always
a few people who are like hey Paul thanks for
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testing flight simulator at 1080 we are running
direct X12 the ultra Graphics preset reflex and
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frame generation are turned off the 9600 X is
around 70 to 75 frames per second lows in the
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50 to 70 range and that's specifically while
Landing when the frame rate dips the 9700x was
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just barely faster maybe like one frame faster 71
to 76 FPS with lows in the 50 to 70 range although
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I will say the 9700x here was where I got my best
most softest landing and I I actually got an A
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rating which is I I've never gotten an a rating
before that was nice but I'm getting distracted
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the 7800 x3d did maintain a lead hitting 85 to
90 frames per second so it is still going to
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be the processor of choice for flight simulator
enthusiasts meanwhile over at 4K we lose a few
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frames but not a lot the 9600 X was in the 69
to 76 FPS range with lows down around 45 to 65
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the 9700 X was actually a frame or two slower at
4K about 68 to 74 FPS with lows in the 45 to 65
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range and the 7,800 x3d once again maintain the
lead 78 to 85 FPS lows around 55 to 75 again with
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that Landing part so I think it is safe to say
with all these results that the 7800x 3D is still
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quite clearly at least with my tests the better
choice for gaming at least until the 9000 series
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comes out with their x3d 3D vcash enabled versions
now I wanted to try to add a bit more practical
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value to my testing and I know testing with a 360
mm all one liquid cooler isn't the best choice for
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something like this because a lot of people are
going to say well these X Series processors have
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thin boxes because they don't come with cooling
solutions can I get by with something that's not
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going to be $100 plus it just so happens that I
have a thermalite phantom Spirit Evo air cooler
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here on hand so I decided to swap that in and
run a stress test to compare the allinone to the
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air cooling the Phantom sphere Evo typically
cost around $35 to $40 installation wasn't
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too difficult either and I ran a 10-minute Ida 64
stress test and then took the temperature readings
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afterwards so here's my results for the 9700x
the 360 AIO did perform well we hit 75.6 C Peak
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according to Hardware info it was averaging around
70 to 73° C the hottest temperature measured was
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85.8 on ccd1 these temperatures are noticeably
down from the ryzen 7000 series processors which
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regularly get up to 90c and above and this was a
synthetic stress test which is going to put a lot
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more of a load on the CPU than you would ever do
with gaming or even workstation applications so
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it is nice that the thermalite Phantom Spirit Evo
was only about 3° warmer 78.6 de C Peak averaging
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around 74 to 75° see while the test was still
running and only 1 degree hotter 86.8 C on ccd1
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so for the 8 core yes the sub $40 cooler can keep
up just fine yes it's a few degrees warmer but
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it's also a lot less money meanwhile the 9600 X
should need even less cooling it hits 76.1 Peak
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temperature 73 to 74° average 83.4 C was the peak
temp on ccd1 whereas the thermalite Phantom Spirit
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Evo was only about 1° warmer 77.2 de Peak 74
to 75° on average and 82.9 C Peak on ccd1 so
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hopefully that gives you guys a nice look at some
of the various performance aspects of the 9600 X
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and 9700x now is where I would typically do my
conclusion but I feel like my conclusion needs a
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little bit more time to percolate so maybe give
me I don't know a week or so before I come back
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to give you guys a broader overview of the entire
stack of CPUs at AMD just launched and hopefully
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maybe even some better comparisons to Intel if
intel actually gets off their butts and posts that
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patch so we can test properly it is quite clear
to me that the new 9000 Series processors have an
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edge a like up on the 7,000 series processors in
terms of efficiency and you can't complain about
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the prices being better than last gen either so
clearly these would be the best choice if you're
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not concerned about gaming if you are concerned
about gaming however AMD is Their Own Worst Enemy
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because the Clear Choice is going to be the 7800x
3D especially if you're pairing it with a higher
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end GPU like an RTX 490 or even like 480 super 470
TI 7900 XT or XTX you're going to get better frame
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rates out of GPU and CPU limited situations with
that 7800 x3d or by holding off 1 2 3 months we're
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not really sure until the presumably hopefully
9800x 3D launches which should have all of the
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performance improvements of these CPUs while also
having that 3D vcash which should provide it at
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least equivalent if not better gaming performance
at the same time but that's all the time I have
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