Elon Musk and DOGE team give behind the scenes look at their mission

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7kQNwJ4H_w

Resumo

TLDRThe discussion focuses on efforts led by Elon Musk and his team to reduce government waste, fraud, and streamline federal operations with the aim of cutting the budget deficit significantly. They outline their ambitious goal of halving a $2 trillion deficit and cite shocking examples of waste encountered, such as exorbitant payments for simple tasks. The team emphasizes their commitment to real-time waste reduction and modernizing government processes, particularly in retirement system upgrades and fraud prevention. The conversation highlights the critical need for transparency and efficiency in government spending and responses to concerns about how changes might affect existing benefits.

Conclusões

  • 💰 Goal to cut deficit by $1 trillion.
  • 🚫 Aiming for $4 billion waste reduction daily.
  • 📄 Modernizing retirement process to digital.
  • 🛡️ Focus on preventing fraud in Social Security.
  • 🔍 Transparency is key in all spending initiatives.
  • 👥 Support from Republicans and some Democrats.
  • 🖥️ Upgrading outdated IT systems in federal agencies.
  • 📉 Reducing unnecessary staffing in government agencies.
  • ⚖️ Commitment to treat employees with respect in all processes.

Linha do tempo

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Bret opens the discussion, expressing gratitude to Elon for joining the conversation about budgetary savings goals. Elon outlines the aim to reduce a $2 trillion deficit by $1 trillion and decrease federal spending from $7 trillion to $6 trillion, emphasizing a 15% reduction through eliminating waste and fraud without affecting critical services.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Elon describes the staggering levels of waste in government, with examples of inefficiencies, such as a $1 billion charge for a simple survey. Bret inquires about the timeline for completing this work and Elon suggests that they can achieve significant savings within 130 days, reducing waste and fraud in real-time.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Bret discusses criticisms of the approach, to which Elon responds by asserting their careful strategy in making cuts while acknowledging the inevitability of mistakes and the importance of correcting them quickly. Steve Davis, a key member of the team, expresses his passion for the mission and belief in the administration supporting the endeavor.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The discussion shifts to the specific savings being found, including a notable example of $830 million from a survey, and the insistence on transparency in DOGE's operations through their website. Bret asks about Congress's involvement, and it is noted that they are kept informed despite bipartisan challenges faced by DOGE.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Anthony Armstrong, a new participant, discusses the inefficiencies in the retirement system management, with a particularly antiquated paper-based process identified as problematic. He emphasizes the need for modernization and an online system to expedite retiree processing.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    A DOGE engineer highlights the outdated IT infrastructure costing the government billions, where many critical systems are over 50 years old. The conversation paves the way for discussions on necessary upgrades to systems like Social Security to prevent fraud and improve user experience.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:38:46

    At HHS, efforts are focused on enhancing biomedical research funding distribution by streamlining systems and reducing bureaucratic red tape to allocate more resources directly to researchers, linking this to improved health policy outcomes.

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  • What is the goal for reducing the deficit?

    To reduce the deficit from $2 trillion to $1 trillion, a 50% cut.

  • What is Doge's approach to cutting waste and fraud?

    They aim to reduce waste and fraud by $4 billion a day.

  • How is the retirement process being modernized?

    The retirement process is being moved online to reduce paperwork and improve speed.

  • What technology is being used to prevent fraud?

    They are improving IT systems and database connectivity to prevent fraudulent claims.

  • Who supports the initiatives undertaken by Doge?

    The initiatives have support from the President and various members of congress, particularly Republicans.

  • What is being done about the age discrepancies in Social Security data?

    The team is systematically identifying and correcting fraudulent entries, including those for individuals marked as alive over age 120.

  • Is transparency part of the initiative's goals?

    Absolutely, all spending data is published for public scrutiny.

  • How many IRS employees are involved in provisioning laptops?

    There are about 1400 IRS employees dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones.

  • What issues exist with the Medicare and Medicaid systems?

    The systems are outdated, with issues relating to IT not communicating effectively.

  • Are there any layoffs happening in the Doge team?

    No, the focus is on voluntary retirements and treating employees with care.

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    >> Bret: THANKS FOR HAVING US
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    AND DOING THIS.
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    I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST
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    IN THIS.
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    YOU KNOW, FIRST, LET ME START
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    WITH YOU, ELON.
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    WHAT ARE THE BUDGETARY SAVINGS
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    GOALS AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK
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    YOU HAVE ACHIEVED SO FAR?
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    >> OUR GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE
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    DEFICIT BY A TRILLION DOLLARS.
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    SO, FROM A NOMINAL DEFICIT OF
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    2 TRILLION TO TRY TO CUT IT IN
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    HALF TO 1 TRILLION.
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    LOOKED AT IN TOTAL FEDERAL
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    SPENDING TO DROP THE FEDERAL
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    SPENDING FROM 7 TRILLION TO
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    6 TRILLION.
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    WE WANT TO REDUCE THE SPENDING
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    BY ELIMINATING WASTE AND FRAUD
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    AND REDUCE THE SPENDING BY 15%.
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    WHICH SEEMS REALLY QUITE OEA
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    ACHIEVABLE.
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    THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT EFFICIENT.
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    AND THERE IS A LOT OF WASTE AND
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    FRAUD.
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    SO, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT A 15%
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    REDUCTION CAN BE DONE WITHOUT
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    AFFECTING ANY OF THE CRITICAL
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    GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
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    >> Bret: I WANT TO TALK.
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    >> MAKING IT BETTER.
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    >> Bret: TALK TO ALL THE GUYS
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    HERE ABOUT SPECIFICS.
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    BUT FOR YOU WHAT IS THE MOST
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    ASTONISHING THING YOU FOUND OUT
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    IN THIS PROCESS.
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    >> THE SHEAR AMOUNT OF WASTE AND
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    FRAUD IN THE GOVERNMENT.
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    IT IS ASTONISHING.
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    IT'S MIND-BLOWING.
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    WE ROUTINELY ENCOUNTER WASTE OF
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    A BILLION DOLLARS OR MORE.
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    CASUALLY.
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    YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE
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    SIMPLE SURVEY THAT WAS --
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    LITERALLY 10-QUESTION SURVEY DO
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    YOU U. DUE IT WITH SURVEY MONKEY
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    $10,000.
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    THE GOVERNMENT WAS BEING CHARGED
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    ALMOST A BILLION DOLLARS FOR
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    THAT.
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    >> Bret: FOR JUST A SURVEY.
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    >> FOR A BILLION DOLLARS FOR
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    ONLINE SURVEY DO YOU LIKE THE
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    NATIONAL PARK.
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    WHAT HE WILL BE DONE WITH THAT
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    SURVEY.
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    SURVEY GOING TO NOTHING.
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    >> Bret: YOU TECHNICALLY ARE A
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    SPECIAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE.
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    YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 130 DAYS.
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    ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE PAST
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    THAT OR DO YOU THINK THAT'S
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    THE-WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO?
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    >> I THINK WE WILL HAVE
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    ACCOMPLISHED MOST OF THE WORK
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    REQUIRED TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT
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    BY A TRILLION DOLLARS WITHIN
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    THAT TIME FRAME.
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    >> Bret: SO, IN THAT TIME FRAME,
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    130 DAYS?
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    >> YES.
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    >> Bret: AND THE PROCESS IS A
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    REPORT AT SOME POINT?
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    100 DAYS?
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    >> NOT REALLY A REPORT.
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    WE ARE CUTTING THE WASTE AND
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    FRAUD IN REAL TIME.
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    EVERY DAY THAT PASSES, OUR GOAL
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    IS TO REDUCE THE WASTE AND FRAUD
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    BY $4 BILLION A DAY EVERY DAY
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    SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
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    SO FAR WE ARE SUCCEEDING.
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    >> Bret: GOING TO TALK TO THE
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    SPECIFICS, THERE OBVIOUSLY ARE
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    DOGE CRITICS WHO ARE READING ALL
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    KINDS OF STUFF, OBVIOUSLY
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    LAWMAKERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
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    THE AISLE ARE ATTACKING YOU.
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    AND THEY CHARACTERIZE THE
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    APPROACH AS.
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    THIS FIRE READY AND THEN AIM.
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    AND THEN HOW DO YOU APPROACH
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    THAT?
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    HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
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    >> WELL, I DO AGREE THAT WE
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    ACTUALLY WANT TO BE CAREFUL IN
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    THE CUTS.
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    WE WANT TO MEASURE TWICE IF NOT
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    TRIES AND CUT ONCE.
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    AND ACTUALLY THAT IS OUR
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    APPROACH.
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    THEY MAY CHARACTERIZE IT AS
  • 00:02:57
    SHOOTING FROM THE HIP, BUT IT IS
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    ANYTHING BUT THAT.
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    WHICH IS NOT TO SAY WE DON'T
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    MAKE MISTAKES.
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    IF WE WERE TO APPROACH THIS WITH
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    THE STANDARD OF MAKING NO
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    MISTAKES AT ALL, THAT WOULD BE
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    LIKE SAYING SOMEONE IN BASEBALL
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    IS GOING TO BAT 1,000.
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    THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
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    SO, WHEN WE DO MAKE MISTAKES.
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    WE CORRECT THEM QUICKLY.
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    AND WE MOVE ON.
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    >> Bret: SOME PEOPLE SAY THIS
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    SHOULDN'T TAKE A ROCKET
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    SCIENTIST.
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    STEVE DAVIS, YOU ARE A ROCKET
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    SCIENTIST.
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    >> USED TO BE.
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    [LAUGHTER]
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    >> Bret: NOW ESSENTIALLY YOU ARE
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    THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF
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    DOGE.
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    DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
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    FAIR TO SAY?
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    >> YEAH.
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    PART OF THE DOGE TEAM.
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    >> Bret: SO HOW DID YOU END UP
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    HERE?
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    WHAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE YOU
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    SEE?
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    >> THE REASON I'M HERE, WHICH
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    WHICH IS PROBABLY FOR MANY IS I
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    THINK THE GOAL IS INCREDIBLY
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    INSPIRING.
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    I THINK MOST OF THE TAXPAYERS IN
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    THE COUNTRY WOULD AGREE THAT IN
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    ORDER TO HAVE AT COUNTRY GOING
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    BANKRUPT WOULD BE VERY BAD THICK
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    AND THEREFORE THE COUNTRY NOT
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    GOING BANKRUPT IS A GOOD THING.
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    THAT ALL OF US ARE WILLING TO
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    KIND OF PUT OUR LIVES ON HOLD IN
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    ORDER TO DO.
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    THE THING THAT'S SPECIAL RIGHT
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    NOW, WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THERE
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    IS A CHANCE TO SUCCEED.
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    THAT THERE IS AN ADMINISTRATION
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    THAT IS SUPPORTIVE AND A GREAT
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    CABINET AND JUST A GREAT GROUP
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    THAT WILL ACTUALLY MAKE SUCCESS
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    A POSSIBLE OUTCOME.
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    AND I THINK THAT'S GIVEN THE
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    INSPIRING MISSION AND GIVEN THE
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    NONZERO CHANCE OF SUCCESS IT WAS
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    WORTH DOING.
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    >> I WOULD LIKE TO REEMPHASIZE
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    THAT POINT.
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    THE SUCCESS OF DOGE IS ONLY
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    POSSIBLE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP
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    AND WITH THE OUTSTANDING CABINET
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    THAT HE SELECTED.
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    IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT
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    THE SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT AND
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    THE CABINET.
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    >> Bret: BUT YOU ARE FINDING THE
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    MONEY.
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    I MEAN, IT'S BIG NUMBERS.
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    RIGHT?
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    >> YEAH.
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    LIKE HE SAID THE MINIMUM IS OFF
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    A BILLION DOLLARS.
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    OVER $830 MILLION WHICH WAS THE
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    ONLINE SURVEY.
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    THAT'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF
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    MONEY THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN
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    FOUND IF THE DOGE TEAM WASN'T
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    WORKING WITH THAT IN THAT CASE
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    THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND
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    TAKING IT ONE STEP FURTHER.
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    DOGE PUBLISHES THESE THINGS ON
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    OUR WEBSITE FOR MAXIMUM
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    TRANSPARENCY.
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    NOW THE GENERAL PUBLIC, IT WOULD
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    HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE
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    GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE SEEN THAT
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    NOW ANYONE CAN JUST LOG INTO TO
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    DOGE DOTTED GOV AND SEE THESE
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    PAYMENTS.
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    NOT YET IN REAL TIME, CLOSE,
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    PROBABLY BE IN REAL TIME THE
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    NEXT FEW WEEKS.
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    >> Bret: THE PROCESS STILL
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    INVOLVES CONGRESS, RIGHT?
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    AT SOME LEVEL.
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    >> WE TRY TO KEEP CONGRESS AS
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    INFORMED AS POSSIBLE.
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    THE LAW DOES SAY THAT MONEY
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    NEEDS TO BE SPENT CORRECTLY IT.
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    SHOULD NOT BE SPENT FRAUDULENTLY
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    OR WASTEFULLY.
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    IT'S NOT CONTRARY TO CONGRESS TO
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    AVOID WASTE AND FRAUD.
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    IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW AND
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    CONSISTENT WITH CONGRESS.
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    WE HAVE SEEN ACTUALLY GREAT
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    SUPPORT, AT LEAST FROM THE
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    REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND
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    OCCASIONALLY SOME DEMOCRATS,
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    TOO.
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    YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE TO SEE
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    PEOPLE CROSS THE AISLE ONCE IN A
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    WHILE.
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    BUT, USUALLY WHEN THEY ATTACK
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    DOGE, THEY NEVER ATTACK ANY OF
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    THE SPECIFICS.
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    SO THEY WILL SAY WHAT WE'RE
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    DOING IS SOMEHOW
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    UNCONSTITUTIONAL OR ILLEGAL OR
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    WHATEVER.
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    WE ARE LIKE WELL, WHICH LANE
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    LINE OF THE COST SAVINGS DO YOU
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    DISAGREE WITH?
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    AND THEY CAN'T POINT TO ANY.
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    AND WE LIST THEM ALL ON
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    DOGE.GOV.
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    AND THE DOGE HANDLE ON X.
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    AND YOU WILL SEE JUST OUTRAGEOUS
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    THINGS.
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    ONE OUTRAGEOUS THING AFTER
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    ANOTHER.
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    >> Bret: BESIDES ELON, YOU ARE
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    ONE OF SEVERAL BILLIONAIRES
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    HERE.
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    CO-FOUNDER OF AIR B AND N AND
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    YOU WANTED TO HELP OUT?
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    I BUMPED INTO ANTHONY AND ELON
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    IN FEBRUARY.
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    A LINE DEALT WITH RETIREMENT.
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    SOMEBODY TO HELP OUT TO FIX
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    RETIREMENT IN THE GOVERNMENT.
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    I LOVED THE CHALLENGE SO I
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    JUMPED ON BOARD.
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    IT TURNS OUT THERE IS ACTUALLY A
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    MINE IN PENNSYLVANIA THAT HOUSES
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    EVERY PAPER DOCUMENT FOR THE
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    RETIREMENT PROCESS IN THE
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    GOVERNMENT.
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    NOW, PICTURE THIS.
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    THIS GIANT CAVE HAS 22,000
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    FILING CABINETS STACKED 10 HIGH
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    TO HOUSE 400 MILLION PIECES OF
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    PAPER.
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    IT'S A PROCESS THAT STARTED IN
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    THE 1950s AND LARGELY HASN'T
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    CHANGED IN THE LAST 70 YEARS.
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    AND SO AS YOU DUG INTO IT, WE
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    FOUND A RETIREMENT CASES THAT
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    HAD SO MUCH PAPER THEY HAD TO
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    FIT IT ON A SHIPPING PALLET.
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    SO, THE PROCESS TAKES MANY
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    MONTHS AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE
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    IT JUST MANY DAYS.
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    >> Bret: WILL IT BE DIGITIZED?
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    >> ONLINE DIGITAL PROCESS TAKE
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    JUST A FEW DAYS AT MOST.
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    IT'S AN INJUSTICE TO CIVIL
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    SERVANTS WHO ARE SUBJECTED TO
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    THESE PROCESSES THAT ARE OLDER
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    THAN THE AGE OF HALF THE PEOPLE
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    WATCHING YOUR SHOW TONIGHT.
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    SO, WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE
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    GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE AN APPLE
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    STORE LIKE EXPERIENCE.
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    BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED.
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    GREAT EASIER EXPERIENCE, MODERN
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    SYSTEMS.
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    >> Bret: RIGHT NOW, IT'S BY
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    HAND?
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    >> YES.
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    THE RETIREMENT PROCESS A ALL BY
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    PAPER.
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    ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE CARRYING
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    PAPER IN MANILA ENVELOPES INTO
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    THIS GIGANTIC MINE.
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    >> Bret: CAN'T RETIRE ABOUT A
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    CERTAIN NUMBER EVERY MONTH.
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    >> ABOUT 8,000 A MONTH.
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    >> THE REASON WE DISCOVERED IT
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    WELL, LET'S ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY
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    RETIREMENT.
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    MOST THEY COULD DO IS 8,000 A
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    MONTH.
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    AND EVEN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES IT
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    CAN TAKE 6 TO NINE MONTHS JUST
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    TO HAVE YOUR RETIREMENT
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    PAPERWORK PROCESSED AND OFTEN
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    GET THE CALCULATIONS WRONG.
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    WE ARE LIKE WHY WOULD IT TAKE SO
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    LONG TO RETIRE?
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    AND THEY'RE LIKE WELL, BECAUSE
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    OF THE MINE.
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    WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE MINE?
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    WHAT'S THE MINE GOT TO DO WITH
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    RETIRING.
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    THAT'S WHERE WE DISCOVERED THAT
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    ALL THE RETIREMENT STUFF IS
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    STILL DONE BY PAPER IN A PROCESS
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    THAT LOOKS IDENTICAL TO WHAT
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    OCCURRED IN THE 1950s.
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    I CAN TAKE A SNAPSHOT IN THE
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    MINE WHEN IT FIRST STARTED IN
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    THE 1950s TO TODAY AND IT
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    LOOKS THE SAME.
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    >> Bret: AMAZING.
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    HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO TURN
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    OVER.
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    >> WE ARE WORKING AS QUICK AS WE
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    CAN PROBABLY NEXT COUPLE MONTHS
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    HAVE IT OVERHAULED.
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    WHY ARE WE SUBJECTING OUR
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    FEDERAL WORKERS TO PROCESSES
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    THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO
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    THROUGH A TRAINING JUST TO
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    RETIRE FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
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    WHOLE TRAINING PROGRAM THAT
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    PEOPLE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN
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    ORDER TO RETIRE.
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    I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER FOR
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    THEM.
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    >> Bret: AREM DOGE ENGINEER.
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    YOU GO INTO THESE PLACES MORE
  • 00:09:00
    THAN A DOZEN ENGINEERS.
  • 00:09:02
    FIRST TO GO INTO THE AGENCIES
  • 00:09:03
    AND VIEW THE COMPUTER DATA SETS.
  • 00:09:05
    TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE FINDING AND
  • 00:09:06
    FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND
  • 00:09:08
    HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS, EXPLAIN
  • 00:09:10
    IT FOR THEM.
  • 00:09:11
    >> YEAH.
  • 00:09:11
    I WILL SAY THE FIRST THING THAT
  • 00:09:13
    GOT ME REALLY EXCITED ABOUT DOGE
  • 00:09:15
    WAS LEARNING BASICALLY THE STATE
  • 00:09:18
    OF GOVERNMENT COMPUTERS.
  • 00:09:20
    BY SOME ESTIMATES, GOVERNMENT IT
  • 00:09:22
    COST ABOUT $100 BILLION.
  • 00:09:25
    ITS FUNDING SYSTEMS THAT ARE
  • 00:09:27
    OVER 50 YEARS OLD IN THE CASE OF
  • 00:09:28
    SOMETHING LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY
  • 00:09:29
    OR THE IRS.
  • 00:09:30
    SO, REALLY CRITICAL SYSTEMS ARE
  • 00:09:33
    OLD.
  • 00:09:33
    THEY COST A LOT OF MONEY TO
  • 00:09:36
    MAINTAIN.
  • 00:09:37
    AND THEY COULD BE -- THE EFFORTS
  • 00:09:38
    TO IMPROVE THEM ARE OFTEN VERY
  • 00:09:40
    DELAYED.
  • 00:09:41
    SO, I THOUGHT I'M A SOFTWARE
  • 00:09:44
    ENGINEER.
  • 00:09:45
    THAT MAYBE COULD MAKE A
  • 00:09:46
    DIFFERENCE HERE.
  • 00:09:49
    AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT INSPIRED
  • 00:09:51
    ME AT A HIGH LEVEL.
  • 00:09:53
    >> Bret: THERE IS A LOT OF
  • 00:09:54
    MYSTERY ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY
  • 00:09:55
    AND WORDS ABOUT IT FROM -- HERE
  • 00:09:56
    IS WHAT DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
  • 00:09:57
    SAYING ABOUT IT.
  • 00:09:58
    >> IT'S ABSURD THAT ELON MUSK IS
  • 00:10:00
    TRYING TO ELIMINATE BILLIONS OF
  • 00:10:01
    DOLLARS FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.
  • 00:10:03
    >> ELON MUSK AND PRESIDENT TRUMP
  • 00:10:04
    HAVE SET THEIR SITES ON CUTTING
  • 00:10:06
    SOCIAL SECURITY.
  • 00:10:07
    >> THEIR GOAL IS CLEAR.
  • 00:10:11
    DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY FROM
  • 00:10:13
    WITHIN.
  • 00:10:13
    >> Bret: YOU'RE IN THE BUILDING.
  • 00:10:15
    I MEAN, YOU ARE IN THE
  • 00:10:16
    COMPUTERS.
  • 00:10:16
    WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE?
  • 00:10:17
    WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
  • 00:10:18
    >> YEAH.
  • 00:10:19
    IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH MY
  • 00:10:20
    EXPERIENCE ON THE GROUND.
  • 00:10:22
    AND I WILL SAY THE TWO
  • 00:10:24
    IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING
  • 00:10:25
    TO MAKE TO SOCIAL SECURITY ARE
  • 00:10:27
    HELPING PEOPLE THAT LEGITIMATELY
  • 00:10:29
    GET BENEFITS, PROTECT THEM FROM
  • 00:10:31
    FRAUD, THAT THEY EXPERIENCE
  • 00:10:32
    EVERY DAY ON A ROUTINE BASIS,
  • 00:10:35
    AND ALSO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE
  • 00:10:37
    BETTER.
  • 00:10:37
    AND I WILL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE
  • 00:10:41
    IS AT SOCIAL SECURITY, ONE OF
  • 00:10:42
    THE FIRST THINGS WE LEARNED IS
  • 00:10:44
    THAT THEY GET PHONE CALLS EVERY
  • 00:10:45
    DAY OF PEOPLE TRYING TO CHANGE
  • 00:10:47
    DIRECT DEPOSIT INFORMATION.
  • 00:10:48
    SO, WHEN YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR
  • 00:10:49
    BANK ACCOUNT, CAN YOU CALL
  • 00:10:51
    SOCIAL SECURITY.
  • 00:10:52
    WE LEARNED 40% OF THE PHONE
  • 00:10:54
    CALLS THAT THEY GET ARE FROM
  • 00:10:56
    FRAUD CENTERS.
  • 00:10:58
    >> Bret: 40%?
  • 00:10:58
    >> THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:10:59
    ALMOST HALF.
  • 00:11:00
    >> YES.
  • 00:11:01
    AND THEY STEAL PEOPLE'S SOCIAL
  • 00:11:02
    SECURITY IS WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 00:11:04
    THEY CALL IN, THEY SAY THEY
  • 00:11:06
    CLAIM TO BE A RETIREE.
  • 00:11:09
    THEN THEY -- AND THEY CONVINCE
  • 00:11:11
    THE SOCIAL SECURITY PERSON ON
  • 00:11:12
    THE PHONE TO CHANGE WHERE THE
  • 00:11:14
    MONEY IS FLOWING.
  • 00:11:15
    IT ACTUALLY GOES TO SOME
  • 00:11:18
    FRAUDSTER.
  • 00:11:18
    AS IT IS HAPPENING ALL DAY EVERY
  • 00:11:20
    DAY.
  • 00:11:20
    AND THEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T
  • 00:11:21
    RECEIVE THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY
  • 00:11:23
    IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THE FRAUD
  • 00:11:25
    LOOPHOLES IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY
  • 00:11:27
    SYSTEM.
  • 00:11:27
    >> Bret: HOW DO YOU REASSURE
  • 00:11:28
    PEOPLE THAT WHAT YOU ALL ARE
  • 00:11:30
    DOING IS NOT GOING TO EFFECT
  • 00:11:31
    THEIR BENEFITS?
  • 00:11:34
    >> NO, IN FACT, WHAT WE'RE DOING
  • 00:11:35
    WILL HELP THEIR BENEFITS.
  • 00:11:37
    LEGITIMATE PEOPLE AS A RESULT OF
  • 00:11:38
    THE WORK OF DOGE WILL RECEIVE
  • 00:11:40
    MORE SOCIAL SECURITY, NOT LESS.
  • 00:11:42
    I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT AS A
  • 00:11:44
    RESULT OF THE WORK OF DOGE,
  • 00:11:46
    LEGITIMATE RECIPIENTS OF SOCIAL
  • 00:11:47
    SECURITY WILL RECEIVE MORE
  • 00:11:49
    MONEY, NOT LESS MONEY.
  • 00:11:53
    AND LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT I
  • 00:11:56
    SAID THIS, AND IT CAN BE PROVEN
  • 00:11:58
    OUT TO BE TRUE.
  • 00:11:59
    LET'S CHECK BACK ON THIS IN THE
  • 00:12:01
    FUTURE.
  • 00:12:01
    >> "THE WASHINGTON POST," THE
  • 00:12:02
    SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
  • 00:12:04
    WEBSITE CRASHED FOUR TIMES IN 10
  • 00:12:05
    DAYS THIS MONTH BECAUSE OF THE
  • 00:12:07
    SERVERS WERE OVERLOADED BLOCKING
  • 00:12:08
    MILLIONS OF RETIREES AND
  • 00:12:10
    DISABLED VETERANS FROM LOGGING
  • 00:12:11
    INTO THEIR ONLINE ACCOUNTS.
  • 00:12:14
    FREAKED PEOPLE OUT.
  • 00:12:17
    IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE.
  • 00:12:19
    >> YES, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE
  • 00:12:20
    SURE THAT THE WEBSITE STAYS
  • 00:12:23
    ONLINE.
  • 00:12:23
    >> Bret: BUT IS IT A RESULT OF
  • 00:12:24
    GOING IN THERE OR SOMETHING YOU
  • 00:12:25
    ARE DOING?
  • 00:12:26
    >> NO.
  • 00:12:27
    THE AMOUNT OF ISSUES THAT SOCIAL
  • 00:12:30
    SECURITY SYSTEM ARE ENORMOUS.
  • 00:12:31
    AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE ARE OVER
  • 00:12:34
    15 MILLION PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER
  • 00:12:35
    THE AGE OF 120, THAT ARE MARKED
  • 00:12:39
    AS ALIVE IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY
  • 00:12:41
    SYSTEM.
  • 00:12:41
    >> Bret: THAT'S AN ACCURATE
  • 00:12:42
    FIGURE.
  • 00:12:43
    >> CORRECT.
  • 00:12:44
    CORRECT.
  • 00:12:44
    THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
  • 00:12:45
    IDENTIFIED AS A PROBLEM.
  • 00:12:47
    AGAIN, PRE-EXISTING PROBLEM
  • 00:12:48
    SINCE 2008, AT LEAST, FROM AN IG
  • 00:12:51
    REPORT.
  • 00:12:52
    SO, THERE IS SOME GREAT PEOPLE
  • 00:12:53
    WORKING AT THE SOCIAL SECURITY
  • 00:12:55
    ADMINISTRATION THAT FOUND THIS,
  • 00:12:57
    2008, AND NOTHING WAS DONE.
  • 00:12:59
    AND SO 15 TO 20 MILLION SOCIAL
  • 00:13:01
    SECURITY NUMBERS THAT WERE
  • 00:13:02
    CLEARLY FRAUDULENT WERE FLOATING
  • 00:13:04
    AROUND, THAT CAN BE USED ONLY
  • 00:13:07
    FOR BAD INTENTIONS.
  • 00:13:08
    NO WAY TO USE THESE FOR GOOD
  • 00:13:10
    INTENTIONS.
  • 00:13:10
    ONE OF THE THINGS THE DOGE TEAM
  • 00:13:11
    IS DOING IS CAREFULLY AND VERY
  • 00:13:15
    METHODICALLY LOOKING AT THOSE
  • 00:13:15
    AND MAKING SURE ANY FRAUDULENT
  • 00:13:17
    ONES ARE ELIMINATED.
  • 00:13:20
    >> Bret: BRAD SMITH WORKING AT
  • 00:13:22
    HHS AND OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER
  • 00:13:23
    ELEMENT IS MEDICARE AND
  • 00:13:27
    MEDICAID.
  • 00:13:27
    NIH, WHAT ARE YOU FINDING?
  • 00:13:29
    >> YEAH.
  • 00:13:29
    I WOULD SAY THERE IS A COUPLE
  • 00:13:31
    THINGS WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO
  • 00:13:32
    IN OUR WORK AT HHS.
  • 00:13:34
    NUMBER ONE, MAKING SURE TO HAVE
  • 00:13:36
    THE BEST BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH IN
  • 00:13:39
    THE WORLD.
  • 00:13:39
    MAKE BEING SURE THAT PRESIDENT
  • 00:13:40
    TRUMP SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN
  • 00:13:43
    WE 100 PERCENT PROTECT MEDICARE
  • 00:13:44
    AND MEDICAID.
  • 00:13:45
    THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:13:46
    IF I TAKE NIH AS AN EXAMPLE.
  • 00:13:48
    TODAY IF YOU ARE NIH RESEARCHER
  • 00:13:51
    AND GET $100 GRANT AT YOUR
  • 00:13:52
    UNIVERSITY, TODAY YOU GET TO
  • 00:13:53
    SPEND 60 OF THAT AND YOUR
  • 00:13:55
    UNIVERSITY SPENDS 40 OF THAT.
  • 00:13:57
    THE POLICY WE ARE PROPOSING TO
  • 00:13:58
    MAKE YOU GETS TO SPEND 58 OF
  • 00:14:00
    THAT AND YOUR UNIVERSITY SPENDS
  • 00:14:01
    15.
  • 00:14:01
    THAT'S MORE MONEY GOING DIRECTLY
  • 00:14:02
    TO THE SCIENTISTS WHO ARE
  • 00:14:04
    DISCOVERING NEW CURES.
  • 00:14:05
    ANOTHER EXAMPLE AT NIH IS TODAY
  • 00:14:07
    THEY HAVE 27 DIFFERENT CENTERS.
  • 00:14:09
    THEY GOT CREATED OVER TIME BY
  • 00:14:10
    CONGRESS AND TYPICALLY BY
  • 00:14:11
    DISEASE STATE OR BODY SYSTEM.
  • 00:14:12
    THERE IS 700 DIFFERENT IT
  • 00:14:14
    SYSTEMS TODAY AT NIH.
  • 00:14:17
    >> Bret: 700 DIFFERENT IT
  • 00:14:18
    SYSTEMS.
  • 00:14:19
    >> SOFTWARE SYSTEMS THEY CAN'T
  • 00:14:20
    SPEAK TO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:14:21
    >> Bret: THEY DON'T TALK.
  • 00:14:22
    >> 27 DIFFERENT C.I. Os.
  • 00:14:24
    WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MAKING GREAT
  • 00:14:26
    MEDICINE CAD DISCOVERIES YOU
  • 00:14:27
    HAVE TO CONNECT THE DATA.
  • 00:14:29
    >> Bret: TIME-OUT YOU SAID 27
  • 00:14:31
    DIFFERENT CHIEF INFORMATION
  • 00:14:32
    OFFICERS?
  • 00:14:32
    >> CORRECT, CORRECT.
  • 00:14:34
    >> MOST ARE NONTECHNICAL.
  • 00:14:36
    >> Bret: THERE IS A LOT THERE.
  • 00:14:37
    >> THERE IS A LOT OF
  • 00:14:38
    OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:14:38
    IT WILL MAKE SCIENCE BETTER NOT
  • 00:14:39
    WORSE.
  • 00:14:40
    >> WHEN I SAY OUR JOB IS TECH
  • 00:14:41
    SUPPORT, I REALLY MEAN IT.
  • 00:14:43
    >> Bret: YEAH.
  • 00:14:44
    >> WE HAVE TO FIX THE COMPUTERS.
  • 00:14:45
    IF THE COMPUTERS CAN'T TALK TO
  • 00:14:46
    EACH OTHER.
  • 00:14:47
    YOU CAN'T GET RESEARCH DONE.
  • 00:14:48
    IF THE COMPUTERS CAN'T STAY
  • 00:14:51
    ONLINE, PEOPLE WON'T RECEIVE
  • 00:14:52
    THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY.
  • 00:14:53
    SO, WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE A
  • 00:14:54
    BUNCH OF FAILING COMPUTER
  • 00:14:56
    SYSTEMS THAT ARE PREVENTING
  • 00:14:57
    PEOPLE FROM RECEIVING THEIR
  • 00:14:58
    BENEFITS THAT ARE PREVENTING
  • 00:15:02
    PEOPLE FROM PREVENTING RESEARCH
  • 00:15:05
    FROM HAPPENING EXTREMELY
  • 00:15:06
    VULNERABLE TO FRAUD AND WE ARE
  • 00:15:09
    FIXING IT.
  • 00:15:13
    >> Bret: DOES THAT INCLUDE AI OR
  • 00:15:15
    THE SYSTEM OVERALL?
  • 00:15:16
    THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE AFRAID
  • 00:15:17
    OF.
  • 00:15:17
    THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL
  • 00:15:19
    LOOKING LIKE.
  • 00:15:19
    IS IT GOING TO AFFECT ME IN THE
  • 00:15:20
    LONG TERM?
  • 00:15:21
    >> IT'S GOING TO EFFECT PEOPLE
  • 00:15:22
    VERY POSITIVELY THE CHANGES WE
  • 00:15:28
    ARE DOING HERE SOLVENCY OF THE
  • 00:15:31
    GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES
  • 00:15:32
    OF AMERICA.
  • 00:15:32
    THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
  • 00:15:34
    DO.
  • 00:15:34
    ENSURE THAT PEOPLE DO RECEIVE
  • 00:15:36
    THEIR BENEFITS IN THE FUTURE.
  • 00:15:38
    AND YOU CAN ONLY RECEIVE YOUR
  • 00:15:41
    BENEFITS IF THE COUNTRY IS
  • 00:15:42
    OPERATING IN A HEALTHY AND
  • 00:15:44
    COMPETENT WAY.
  • 00:15:45
    >> Bret: UP NEXT, HOW THE DOGE
  • 00:15:46
    TEAM PLANS TO STREAMLINE SOME
  • 00:15:49
    FEDERAL JOBS AND AGENCIES.
  • 00:15:50
    AND, LATER, ELON MUSK ANSWERS
  • 00:15:52
    SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU
  • 00:15:55
    ASKED VI
  • 00:16:01
    >> Bret: ANTHONY ARMSTRONG, DOGE
  • 00:16:02
    OFFERS OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT,
  • 00:16:04
    MORGAN STANLEY BANKER, MMA GUY.
  • 00:16:07
    >> YEAH.
  • 00:16:07
    >> Bret: YOU KNOW MONEY.
  • 00:16:08
    THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY SLOSHING
  • 00:16:10
    AROUND.
  • 00:16:10
    >> THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY
  • 00:16:11
    SLOSHING AROUND.
  • 00:16:12
    IT'S A LOT OF MONEY SLOSHING OUT
  • 00:16:13
    THE DOOR.
  • 00:16:14
    IF YOU LOOK AT THE FEDERAL
  • 00:16:15
    GOVERNMENT AND THE WAY THE
  • 00:16:16
    WORKFORCE WORKS.
  • 00:16:17
    IT'S REALLY A ONEWAY RATCHET.
  • 00:16:22
    >> Bret: ONLY GOING UP.
  • 00:16:23
    >> THAT LEAVES WITH YOU
  • 00:16:25
    DUPLICATIVE FUNCTIONS AND LEADS
  • 00:16:27
    LEAST WITH YOU OVERSTAFFING AND
  • 00:16:29
    FUNCTIONS IN THE WRONG PLACES.
  • 00:16:30
    A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES DUPLICATIVE
  • 00:16:32
    FUNCTIONS BRAD MENTIONED 27 C.I.
  • 00:16:35
    Os IF YOU KEPT GOING WITH BRAD
  • 00:16:36
    HE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE
  • 00:16:37
    COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE.
  • 00:16:39
    GOT 40 DISTINCT COMMUNICATIONS
  • 00:16:41
    OFFICES IN HHS.
  • 00:16:44
    >> Bret: 40?
  • 00:16:44
    >> YEAH.
  • 00:16:45
    THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL BY THE WAY.
  • 00:16:46
    MULTIPLE OFFICES LIKE THAT.
  • 00:16:49
    >> DOES NOT MAKE ANYONE HEALTHY.
  • 00:16:52
    >> MANY HARD-WORKING
  • 00:16:54
    WELL-MEANING PEOPLE TOOK THESE
  • 00:16:55
    JOBS.
  • 00:16:55
    THESE JOBS WERE OUT THERE.
  • 00:16:56
    THEY APPLIED FOR THEM, THEY TOOK
  • 00:16:58
    THEM.
  • 00:16:58
    THEY ARE DOING WHAT'S THERE.
  • 00:16:59
    THEY ARE DUPLICATING THE EFFORT
  • 00:17:01
    OF 40 OFFICES.
  • 00:17:01
    SO YOU HAVE GOT THAT YOU HAVE
  • 00:17:04
    OVERSTAFFING, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF
  • 00:17:05
    OVERSTAFFING WOULD BE THE IRS
  • 00:17:08
    HAS GOT 1400 PEOPLE WHO ARE
  • 00:17:11
    DEDICATED TO PROVISIONING
  • 00:17:12
    LAPTOPS AND CELL PHONES.
  • 00:17:14
    JOIN THE IRS LAPTOP AND CELL
  • 00:17:16
    PHONE PROVISIONED.
  • 00:17:17
    IF EACH OF THOSE IRS OFFICERS OR
  • 00:17:19
    EMPLOYEES PROVISIONED TWO
  • 00:17:21
    EMPLOYEES PER DAY, YOU COULD
  • 00:17:23
    PROVISION THE ENTIRE IRS IN A
  • 00:17:25
    LITTLE MORE THAN A MONTH.
  • 00:17:27
    SO 12 TIMES A YEAR.
  • 00:17:29
    >> Bret: MAKE YOUR HEAD EXPLODE.
  • 00:17:31
    >> ONLY JOB TO GIVE OUT LAPTOP
  • 00:17:33
    AND A PHONE.
  • 00:17:34
    >> WHOLE IRS COULD BE ONCE A
  • 00:17:35
    MONTH.
  • 00:17:36
    THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
  • 00:17:37
    AND PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN
  • 00:17:38
    VERY CLEAR, SCALPEL AND NOT
  • 00:17:42
    HATCHET.
  • 00:17:42
    THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GETTING
  • 00:17:44
    DONE.
  • 00:17:44
    ONCE THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE.
  • 00:17:45
    THERE'S A VERY HEAVY FOCUS ON
  • 00:17:50
    BEING GENEROUS, BEING CARING,
  • 00:17:52
    BEING COMPASSIONATE, AND
  • 00:17:54
    TREATING EVERYONE WITH DIGNITY
  • 00:17:56
    AND RESPECT.
  • 00:17:56
    IF YOU LOOK AT HOW PEOPLE HAVE
  • 00:17:58
    STARTED TO LEAVE THE GOVERNMENT,
  • 00:18:01
    IT IS LARGELY THROUGH VOLUNTARY
  • 00:18:03
    MEANS.
  • 00:18:04
    THERE IS VOLUNTARY EARLY
  • 00:18:06
    RETIREMENT.
  • 00:18:06
    VOLUNTARY SEPARATION PAYMENTS.
  • 00:18:07
    WE PUT IN PLACE DEFERRED
  • 00:18:10
    RESIGNATION THE 8 MONTH
  • 00:18:11
    SEVERANCE PROGRAM.
  • 00:18:12
    A VERY HEAVY BIAS TOWARDS
  • 00:18:14
    PROGRAMS THAT ARE LONG-DATED
  • 00:18:15
    THAT ARE GENEROUS THAT ALLOW
  • 00:18:16
    PEOPLE TO EXIT AND GO GET A NEW
  • 00:18:18
    JOB IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
  • 00:18:21
    YOU HAVE HEARD A LOT OF -- A LOT
  • 00:18:25
    OF NEWS ABOUT RIFTS.
  • 00:18:26
    ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING FIRED.
  • 00:18:27
    AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, LESS
  • 00:18:31
    THAN .15.
  • 00:18:34
    NOT 1.5.
  • 00:18:35
    LESS THAN 0.15 HAS BEEN GIVEN
  • 00:18:42
    WRITTEN NOTICE.
  • 00:18:42
    >> SELECTED.
  • 00:18:43
    >> BASICALLY ALMOST NO ONE HAS
  • 00:18:45
    GOTTEN FIRED IS WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:18:46
    SAYING.
  • 00:18:46
    >> TOM CRASS, WORKING AT
  • 00:18:48
    TREASURY, YOU ARE HAVING ACCESS
  • 00:18:50
    TO THE PAYMENT SYSTEM, OVERSEES
  • 00:18:54
    ALL THE OUTGOING PAYMENTS.
  • 00:18:55
    ESSENTIALLY THOSE PAYMENTS WERE
  • 00:18:56
    GOING PLACES WHERE WE DIDN'T
  • 00:18:57
    KNOW WHERE THEY WERE GOING,
  • 00:18:58
    RIGHT?
  • 00:18:59
    >> YEAH.
  • 00:18:59
    UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE CASE,
  • 00:19:01
    BRET.
  • 00:19:01
    YOU KNOW, AS IN EXCFO OF A BIG
  • 00:19:05
    PUBLIC TECH COMPANY, REALLY WHAT
  • 00:19:06
    WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE APPLYING
  • 00:19:09
    PUBLIC COMPANY STANDARDS TO THE
  • 00:19:10
    FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
  • 00:19:11
    AND IT IS ALARMING HOW THE
  • 00:19:15
    FINANCIAL OPERATIONS AND
  • 00:19:16
    FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IS SET UP
  • 00:19:18
    TO DATED.
  • 00:19:18
    THERE IS ACTUALLY ONLY ONE BANK
  • 00:19:20
    ACCOUNT THAT IS USED TO DISPERSE
  • 00:19:25
    ALL MONEY OF THE FEDERAL
  • 00:19:27
    GOVERNMENT.
  • 00:19:27
    >> Bret: TIME OUT ONE BANK
  • 00:19:28
    ACCOUNT.
  • 00:19:29
    >> IT'S A BIG ONE.
  • 00:19:30
    A COUPLE WEEKS AGO HAD
  • 00:19:32
    $800 BILLION IN IT.
  • 00:19:34
    THE TREASURY WON'T COUNT.
  • 00:19:36
    SO, WHEN YOU HEAR, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:19:37
    SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WHAT
  • 00:19:38
    THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS
  • 00:19:39
    OF THE FRAUD, YOU HAVE TO ASK
  • 00:19:41
    WELL, WHY IS THIS ALLOWED TO
  • 00:19:44
    HAPPEN AT A FINANCIAL LEVEL?
  • 00:19:46
    WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE SIMPLE
  • 00:19:48
    BUT ALARMING.
  • 00:19:48
    THE TREASURY, UP UNTIL NOW AND
  • 00:19:50
    THANKS TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, WE'RE
  • 00:19:51
    FIXING THIS IVELGT IN FACT,
  • 00:19:52
    THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT
  • 00:19:53
    HE JUST SIGNED THE OTHER DAY
  • 00:19:55
    WHICH IS PROTECTING AMERICA'S
  • 00:19:57
    BANK ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT REALLY
  • 00:19:58
    IS THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
  • 00:19:59
    ONE, WE ARE CHANGING THE
  • 00:20:01
    CULTURE.
  • 00:20:03
    THE CULTURE HAS BEEN NOT A LOT
  • 00:20:04
    OF CARING AND NOT A LOT OF
  • 00:20:06
    COMMITMENT TO DOING WHAT'S
  • 00:20:07
    RIGHT.
  • 00:20:08
    RELATIVE TO FINANCIAL
  • 00:20:09
    OPERATIONS.
  • 00:20:10
    THERE'S A $500 BILLION OF FRAUD
  • 00:20:11
    EVERY YEAR.
  • 00:20:12
    THERE IS HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF
  • 00:20:14
    DOLLARS OF IMPROPER PAYMENTS.
  • 00:20:15
    AND WE CAN'T PASS AN AUDIT.
  • 00:20:20
    THE FINANCIAL REPORT IS PRODUCED
  • 00:20:21
    BY TREASURY WE CANNOT PASS AN
  • 00:20:24
    AUDIT.
  • 00:20:24
    MATERIAL WEAKNESSES.
  • 00:20:25
    IF I WAS A PUBLIC COMPANY CFO I
  • 00:20:28
    WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE REMOVED.
  • 00:20:29
    I COULDN'T FILE FINANCIAL
  • 00:20:31
    STATEMENTS.
  • 00:20:31
    I COULDN'T ISSUE SECURITIES.
  • 00:20:34
    >> Bret: HAVE TO PASS AN AUDIT.
  • 00:20:35
    >> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CANNOT
  • 00:20:36
    PASS AN AUDIT.
  • 00:20:37
    IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
  • 00:20:41
    IN FACT, IN ORDER TO PASS AN
  • 00:20:43
    AUDIT YOU NEED THE INFORMATION
  • 00:20:44
    TO PASS AN AUDIT.
  • 00:20:45
    YOU NEED TO HAVE THE PAYMENT
  • 00:20:46
    CODES.
  • 00:20:47
    YOU NEED HAVE THE PAYMENT
  • 00:20:48
    EXPLANATION AND A PERSON YOU CAN
  • 00:20:50
    CONTACT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT
  • 00:20:51
    PAYMENT WAS MADE.
  • 00:20:52
    NONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE
  • 00:20:53
    MANDATORY UNTIL JUST RECENTLY
  • 00:20:54
    JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.
  • 00:20:56
    IN FACT MAYBE LAST WEEK?
  • 00:20:57
    >> YEAH.
  • 00:20:57
    WE ARE SERVING 580 PLUS
  • 00:21:00
    AGENCIES.
  • 00:21:00
    UP UNTIL VERY RECENTLY,
  • 00:21:03
    EFFECTIVELY THEY COULD SAY MAKE
  • 00:21:03
    THE PAYMENT AND TREASURY JUST
  • 00:21:05
    SENT IT OUT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
  • 00:21:08
    NO VERIFICATION.
  • 00:21:08
    AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHAT
  • 00:21:11
    ANY HOUSEHOLD WOULD DO.
  • 00:21:12
    BUT, IMAGINE YOU ARE A
  • 00:21:13
    HOUSEHOLD, YOU HAVE A BANK
  • 00:21:15
    ACCOUNT.
  • 00:21:15
    EVERYONE HAS AN ATM CARD
  • 00:21:17
    CONNECTED TO THAT ACCOUNT.
  • 00:21:18
    EVERYONE HAS A CHECKBOOK.
  • 00:21:21
    NOT JUST YOUR CHILDREN.
  • 00:21:22
    IT'S YOUR PARENTS, IN-LAWS,
  • 00:21:24
    EXTENDED FAMILY.
  • 00:21:24
    THEY CAN ALL GO TO THE ACCOUNT
  • 00:21:26
    AND DISPERSE FUNDS NO.
  • 00:21:28
    QUESTIONS ASKED NO.
  • 00:21:29
    JUSTIFICATION, NO VERIFICATION.
  • 00:21:31
    >> Bret: UP NEXT, THE DOGE TEAM
  • 00:21:33
    TARGETS GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS AND
  • 00:21:35
    WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THEY'RE
  • 00:21:43
    FI
  • 00:21:43
    TYLER, INTERIOR DEPARTMENT.
  • 00:21:44
    YOU ARE A FORMER OIL COMPANY
  • 00:21:46
    CEO.
  • 00:21:46
    YOU ARE REVIEWING CONTRACTS
  • 00:21:48
    BEFORE THEY'RE APPROVED FOR
  • 00:21:49
    FUNDING.
  • 00:21:50
    WHAT ARE YOU FINDING?
  • 00:21:51
    >> WELL, ELON AND STEVE KIND OF
  • 00:21:53
    STOLE MY THUNDER A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:21:54
    BUT I ACTUALLY FOUND THAT
  • 00:21:56
    CUSTOMER SERVICE SURVEY
  • 00:21:58
    CONTRACT.
  • 00:21:58
    I ACTUALLY HAD AN EXAMPLE OF ONE
  • 00:22:00
    RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:22:01
    I COULD HAVE DONE THIS IN HIGH
  • 00:22:03
    SCHOOL.
  • 00:22:03
    [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:22:04
    >> Bret: IS THAT RIGHT?
  • 00:22:05
    >> IT'S THAT BAD.
  • 00:22:05
    >> I FOUND IT ON THE WEEKENDS.
  • 00:22:07
    BECAUSE UNDER THE BIDEN
  • 00:22:08
    ADMINISTRATION, THERE WAS NO
  • 00:22:10
    DEPARTMENTAL OVERSIGHT WITHIN
  • 00:22:11
    THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR
  • 00:22:13
    WHATSOEVER, NONE.
  • 00:22:14
    WE ARE NOW REVIEWING EVERY
  • 00:22:16
    SINGLE CONTRACT, EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:22:18
    GRANT AND WHEN THINGS DOM MY
  • 00:22:20
    ATTENTION THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.
  • 00:22:22
    I AM BRINGING THEM TO SECRETARY
  • 00:22:25
    ENTER GUM.
  • 00:22:29
    BURGUM.
  • 00:22:29
    IS HE FANTASTIC AND WONDERFUL TO
  • 00:22:31
    WORK WITH HIM.
  • 00:22:32
    >> Bret: IS THE BATTLE BETWEEN
  • 00:22:33
    GOVERNMENT OF DECADES AND
  • 00:22:34
    DECADES OF BUILD-UP AND
  • 00:22:36
    BUSINESS, WHICH YOU GUYS ARE, IS
  • 00:22:37
    THAT LIKE A TRAIN HITTING EACH
  • 00:22:39
    OTHER?
  • 00:22:39
    I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S
  • 00:22:41
    PRETTY DISRUPTIVE.
  • 00:22:42
    >> WELL, THIS IS A REVOLUTION.
  • 00:22:45
    AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE THE --
  • 00:22:46
    IT MIGHT BE THE BIGGEST
  • 00:22:48
    REVOLUTION IN GOVERNMENT SINCE
  • 00:22:50
    THE ORIGINAL REVOLUTION.
  • 00:22:51
    BUT, AT THE END OF THE DAY,
  • 00:22:52
    AMERICA IS GOING TO BE IN MUCH
  • 00:22:54
    BETTER SHAPE, AMERICA WILL BE
  • 00:22:57
    SOLVENT.
  • 00:22:58
    THE CRITICAL PROGRAMS THAT
  • 00:22:59
    PEOPLE DEPEND UPON WILL WORK.
  • 00:23:01
    AND IT'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC
  • 00:23:05
    FUTURE.
  • 00:23:05
    AND BUT ARE WE GOING TO GET A
  • 00:23:06
    LOT OF COMPLAINTS ALONG THE WAY?
  • 00:23:08
    ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:23:08
    ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED AT
  • 00:23:11
    PAYPAL, DO YOU KNOW WHO
  • 00:23:12
    COMPLAINS THE LOUDEST AND WITH
  • 00:23:13
    THE MOST AMOUNT OF FAKE,
  • 00:23:15
    RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION IN THE
  • 00:23:17
    FRAUD CENTERS.
  • 00:23:19
    THAT'S -- IT'S A TELL.
  • 00:23:22
    LIKE THE $2 BILLION TO STACEY SY
  • 00:23:25
    ABRAMS NGO DIDN'T EXIST AND
  • 00:23:28
    $2 BILLION FROM THE FEDERAL
  • 00:23:30
    GOVERNMENT.
  • 00:23:30
    WHY?
  • 00:23:30
    AND THERE ARE MANY SUCH CASES
  • 00:23:32
    LIKE THAT.
  • 00:23:33
    >> Bret: I THINK THAT MOST
  • 00:23:34
    PEOPLE, COMMON SENSEWISE, WOULD
  • 00:23:36
    SAY THE FRAUD HAS GOT TO END.
  • 00:23:38
    >> YES.
  • 00:23:38
    >> THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
  • 00:23:40
    94-YEAR-OLD MOTHER WHO SKIPS A
  • 00:23:42
    CHECK OR SOMEHOW DOESN'T GET
  • 00:23:44
    WHAT SHE IS SUPPOSED TO GET.
  • 00:23:45
    >> RIGHT.
  • 00:23:46
    WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY IS
  • 00:23:47
    ACTUALLY THAT THE 94-YEAR-OLD
  • 00:23:50
    GRANDMOTHER IS ACTUALLY AS A
  • 00:23:51
    RESULT OF DOGE'S WORK GOING TO
  • 00:23:53
    GET HER CHECK.
  • 00:23:54
    SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE ROBBED BY
  • 00:23:56
    FRAUDSTERS LIKE SHE IS GETTING
  • 00:23:57
    ROBBED TODAY.
  • 00:23:59
    AND THE SOLVE VENEZUELAY OF THE
  • 00:24:01
    FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL ENSURE
  • 00:24:02
    THAT SHE CONTINUES TO RECEIVE
  • 00:24:04
    THOSE -- THE SOCIAL SECURITY
  • 00:24:05
    CHECKS THAT MEDICARE CONTINUES
  • 00:24:12
    TO WORK THE REASON WE ARE DOING
  • 00:24:16
    THIS IF WE DON'T DO IT AMERICA
  • 00:24:18
    IS GOING TO GO INSOLVENT.
  • 00:24:20
    GOING TO GO BANKRUPT.
  • 00:24:21
    AND NOBODY IS GOING TO GET
  • 00:24:22
    ANYTHING.
  • 00:24:23
    >> Bret: WHY ARE YOU GUYS ALL
  • 00:24:23
    DOING IT?
  • 00:24:24
    YOU CAN PIPE UP.
  • 00:24:25
    YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE,
  • 00:24:26
    RIGHT?
  • 00:24:27
    I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
  • 00:24:28
    DOING THIS.
  • 00:24:31
    >> I BLESSED WITH FOUR BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:24:33
    CHILDREN, MY WIFE AND I.
  • 00:24:34
    BUT WE HAVE A REAL FISCAL
  • 00:24:36
    CRISIS.
  • 00:24:36
    AND, THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE,
  • 00:24:39
    AND WHAT'S WORSE, BACK TO MY
  • 00:24:41
    CHILDREN AND EVERYONE ELSE'S
  • 00:24:42
    CHILDREN, WE ARE BURDENING THEM
  • 00:24:44
    WITH THAT DEBT.
  • 00:24:45
    AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GROW.
  • 00:24:48
    STEVE.
  • 00:24:48
    >> Bret: THERE IS NOT A LOT OF
  • 00:24:50
    HIERARCHY HERE.
  • 00:24:50
    YOU ARE APPROACHING IT IN
  • 00:24:52
    DIFFERENT SILOS, BUT WITH THE
  • 00:24:54
    SAME KIND OF GOAL, RIGHT?
  • 00:24:56
    I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY SILICON
  • 00:24:58
    VALLEY PRIVATE SECTOR COLLIDING
  • 00:25:00
    WITH GOVERNMENT.
  • 00:25:01
    >> YEAH.
  • 00:25:02
    EXACTLY.
  • 00:25:02
    WE ARE HEADED IN A BAD PATH.
  • 00:25:04
    THE CHANCE OF SUCCESS EXISTS AND
  • 00:25:07
    THE ONE THAT IS IN OUR HEAD
  • 00:25:08
    RIGHT NOW FAIRLY MUNDANE ONE BUT
  • 00:25:12
    ILLUSTRATIVE IS CREDIT CARDS.
  • 00:25:14
    THERE ARE IN THE FEDERAL
  • 00:25:16
    GOVERNMENT AROUND 4.6 MILLION
  • 00:25:18
    CREDIT CARDS FOR AROUND 2.3 TO
  • 00:25:21
    2.4 MILLION EMPLOYEES.
  • 00:25:23
    THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
  • 00:25:25
    >> Bret: RIGHT.
  • 00:25:25
    >> SO ONE OF THE THINGS ALL OF
  • 00:25:26
    THE TEAMS HAVE WORKED ON IS WE
  • 00:25:28
    HAVE WORKED FOR THE AGENCIES AND
  • 00:25:30
    SAID DO YOU NEED ALL OF THESE
  • 00:25:32
    CREDIT CARDS?
  • 00:25:33
    ARE THEY BEING USED?
  • 00:25:34
    CAN YOU TELL US PHYSICALLY WHERE
  • 00:25:35
    THEY ARE?
  • 00:25:36
    >> Bret: I HOPE THEY ARE GETTING
  • 00:25:38
    FREQUENT FLIER MILES.
  • 00:25:39
    >> ACTUALLY, DIFFERENT NOTE, THE
  • 00:25:41
    REWARDS PROGRAM THE FEDERAL
  • 00:25:42
    GOVERNMENT HAS IS NOT VERY GOOD.
  • 00:25:44
    THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER.
  • 00:25:45
    >> Bret: THAT'S A NEGOTIATION.
  • 00:25:46
    >> EXACTLY.
  • 00:25:47
    SO FAR THE TEAMS HAVE WORKED
  • 00:25:48
    TOGETHER AND THEY HAVE REDUCED
  • 00:25:50
    IT FROM 4.6 MILLION TO
  • 00:25:52
    2.3 MILLION.
  • 00:25:54
    SO,.
  • 00:25:55
    >> WE'RE TAKING IT EASY.
  • 00:25:56
    CLEARLY THAT SHOULD NOT BE --
  • 00:25:59
    SHOULD NOT BE MORE CREDIT CARDS
  • 00:26:00
    THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE.
  • 00:26:05
    >> Bret: MIDDLE LEVEL EMPLOYEES
  • 00:26:06
    ARE THEY SEEING A BENEFIT TO
  • 00:26:07
    BEING EMPOWERED BY TAKING OUT
  • 00:26:10
    BUREAUCRACY?
  • 00:26:10
    I MEAN.
  • 00:26:10
    >> ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, I THINK
  • 00:26:11
    WHAT YOU ARE SEE SOMETHING
  • 00:26:12
    TAKING THE BEST OF SILICON
  • 00:26:14
    VALLEY THE BUSINESS WORLD AND
  • 00:26:15
    BRINGING IT TO GOVERNMENT.
  • 00:26:16
    BRINGING THE BEST PRACTICES AND
  • 00:26:18
    BEST METHODOLOGIES AND PEOPLE
  • 00:26:20
    ARE INSPIRED, RIGHT?
  • 00:26:21
    ESPECIALLY ON RETIREMENT PROCESS
  • 00:26:23
    SAYS I COULD SPEAK TO.
  • 00:26:25
    THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
  • 00:26:26
    MODERNIZE AND GET OFF OF PAPER
  • 00:26:28
    SINCE EARLY 22000S.
  • 00:26:33
    VERY UNSUCCESSFULLY.
  • 00:26:34
    EVERY ATTEMPT GONE OVER BUDGET
  • 00:26:36
    AND BEEN CANCELED BECAUSE IT
  • 00:26:37
    HASN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
  • 00:26:41
    I SHOWED UP AND FEEL LIKE I'M
  • 00:26:43
    HERE IT'S AN INTERESTING
  • 00:26:44
    PROBLEM.
  • 00:26:44
    WE CAN USE DESIGN TO SOLVE IT
  • 00:26:46
    AND GET ENGINEERING AND CREATE A
  • 00:26:48
    BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY.
  • 00:26:49
    >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:26:50
    ELEMENTARY FINANCIAL CONTROLS
  • 00:26:51
    THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR ANY
  • 00:26:53
    COMPANY TO FUNCTION.
  • 00:26:54
    SO, LIKE IF THESE -- IF THE
  • 00:26:57
    FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS -- IF A
  • 00:26:59
    COMMERCIAL COMPANY OPERATED THE
  • 00:27:01
    WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES,
  • 00:27:02
    THEN IT WOULD BE -- IMMEDIATELY
  • 00:27:04
    GO BANKRUPT.
  • 00:27:05
    IT WOULD BE DELISTED.
  • 00:27:07
    THE OFFICERS WOULD BE ARRESTED.
  • 00:27:08
    THE CHANGES WE ARE PUTTING IN
  • 00:27:09
    PLACE WILL ENABLE THE FEDERAL
  • 00:27:10
    GOVERNMENT TO PASS AN AUDIT.
  • 00:27:12
    IT WILL ENABLE TAXPAYERS TO KNOW
  • 00:27:13
    WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING.
  • 00:27:15
    KNOW
  • 00:27:20
    >> THE WAYS THAT THE GOVERNMENT
  • 00:27:22
    IS DEFRAUDED IS THAT THE
  • 00:27:23
    COMPUTER SYSTEMS DON'T TALK TO
  • 00:27:24
    EACH OTHER.
  • 00:27:24
    IF THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS DON'T
  • 00:27:25
    TALK TO EACH OTHER, THEN YOU CAN
  • 00:27:29
    EXPLOIT THAT GAP.
  • 00:27:33
    AND FRAUDSTERS EXPLOIT THAT GAP
  • 00:27:34
    AND TAKE ADVANTAGE.
  • 00:27:35
    FOR EXAMPLE THERE WERE
  • 00:27:37
    $300 MILLION OF A SMALL BUSINESS
  • 00:27:38
    ADMINISTRATION LOANS THAT HAS
  • 00:27:39
    BEEN GIVEN OUT TO PEOPLE UNDER
  • 00:27:40
    THE AGE OF 11.
  • 00:27:44
    >> 300 MILLION UNDER THE AGE OF
  • 00:27:46
    11 AND OVER 300 MILLION UNDER
  • 00:27:49
    THE AGE OF 20.
  • 00:27:51
    >> Bret: DEFINITELY SMALL
  • 00:27:51
    BUSINESS LOANS?
  • 00:27:52
    >> YES.
  • 00:27:53
    THE OLDEST AMERICAN IS 114.
  • 00:27:56
    SAFE SO SAY IF THEIR AGE IS 115
  • 00:27:59
    OR ABOVE THEY ARE FAKE OR THEY
  • 00:28:00
    SHOULD BE IN THE GUINNESS BOOK
  • 00:28:02
    OF WORLD RECORDS.
  • 00:28:02
    AND WE SHOULD NOT BE GIVING OUT
  • 00:28:05
    LOANS TO BABIES.
  • 00:28:08
    SO,.
  • 00:28:08
    [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:09
    THE YOUNGEST RECIPIENT OF A
  • 00:28:11
    SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION
  • 00:28:12
    LOAN IS A 9-MONTH-OLD-YEAR-OLD
  • 00:28:15
    WHICH IS A VERY PRECOCIOUS BABY
  • 00:28:16
    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
  • 00:28:18
    OBVIOUSLY JUST FRAUDULENT.
  • 00:28:19
    AND THEY DO TERRIBLE THINGS.
  • 00:28:21
    THEY ACTUALLY WILL SEE A KID HAS
  • 00:28:22
    BEEN BORN.
  • 00:28:23
    THEY WILL STEAL THAT KID'S
  • 00:28:25
    SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND TAKE
  • 00:28:26
    OUT A LOAN AND LEAVE THAT KID
  • 00:28:28
    WITH A BAD CREDIT RATING.
  • 00:28:31
    LITERAL LAY BABY.
  • 00:28:32
    TERRIBLE THINGS ARE BEING DONE
  • 00:28:33
    IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
  • 00:28:34
    WE ARE STOPPING THESE TERRIBLE
  • 00:28:36
    THINGS.
  • 00:28:36
    >> Bret: CAN YOU STOP IT.
  • 00:28:37
    >> WE ARE STOPPING IT.
  • 00:28:39
    ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:28:39
    >> THE REASON IT IS HAPPENING
  • 00:28:40
    BECAUSE THE TWO SYSTEMS ARE NOT
  • 00:28:41
    TALKING TOO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:28:42
    >> YES.
  • 00:28:43
    >> RIGHT?
  • 00:28:44
    AND SO YOU DON'T KNOW AT THE
  • 00:28:46
    SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION
  • 00:28:47
    THAT YOU'RE GIVING A LOAN TO A
  • 00:28:49
    9-MONTH-OLD, WHICH HAPPENED IN
  • 00:28:50
    ONE CASE, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT
  • 00:28:52
    CROSS-REFERENCING THAT WITH THE
  • 00:28:53
    SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
  • 00:28:54
    DATA THAT HAS BIRTH DATES.
  • 00:28:59
    AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE SYSTEMS
  • 00:29:01
    ACROSS THE GOVERNMENT WHERE THE
  • 00:29:02
    SYSTEMS ARE NOT SPEAKING WITH
  • 00:29:03
    ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:29:04
    AND IF YOU JUST SOLVE THAT
  • 00:29:07
    SIMPLE PROBLEM, YOU WOULD SOLVE
  • 00:29:08
    A HUGE AMOUNT OF FRAUD.
  • 00:29:12
    >> ONE OF THE KEY TRICKS PULL
  • 00:29:14
    THAT THEY WILL USE THE FACT THAT
  • 00:29:16
    SOMEONE IS MARKED AS LIVE, AS
  • 00:29:21
    LIVE AND SOCIAL SECURITY.
  • 00:29:26
    AND THEN GET, UNEMPLOYMENT
  • 00:29:27
    INSURANCE FOR A DEAD PERSON
  • 00:29:28
    BECAUSE THE DATABASES DON'T TALK
  • 00:29:30
    TO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:29:31
    ALL THEY GOT WAS FROM SOCIAL
  • 00:29:32
    SECURITY IS THIS PERSON ALIVE?
  • 00:29:34
    YES.
  • 00:29:34
    THEY ARE NOT ALIVE, THE PERSON
  • 00:29:38
    IS POSSIBLY MARKED AS ALIVE IN
  • 00:29:40
    SOCIAL SECURITY, BUT THAT
  • 00:29:43
    FRAUDSTER CAN THOUGHT GET
  • 00:29:44
    UNEMPLOYMENT AND DISABILITY FROM
  • 00:29:45
    A DEAD PERSON.
  • 00:29:48
    IT'S HAPPENING ALL THE TIME AT
  • 00:29:51
    SCALE.
  • 00:29:52
    >> Bret: ARE YOU SURPRISED AT
  • 00:29:53
    SOME OF THE LEGAL EFFORTS AND
  • 00:29:54
    SOME OF THE JUDGES THAT HAVE
  • 00:29:55
    WEIGHED IN?
  • 00:29:56
    THERE IS ABOUT 8 OR 10 NOW OF
  • 00:29:58
    THESE CASES THAT ARE AT LEAST
  • 00:30:00
    TEMPORARY HOLDS.
  • 00:30:01
    THEY ARE BEING CHALLENGED BY THE
  • 00:30:03
    DOJ.
  • 00:30:04
    >> RIGHT.
  • 00:30:05
    >> Bret: ARE YOU SURPRISED BY
  • 00:30:06
    THAT PUSHBACK?
  • 00:30:06
    >> WELL, IT'S -- THE D.C.
  • 00:30:08
    CIRCUIT IS NOTORIOUS FOR HAVING
  • 00:30:10
    A VERY FAR LEFT BIAS.
  • 00:30:13
    AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE
  • 00:30:16
    CLOSEST TO SOME OF THESE JUDGES,
  • 00:30:18
    WHO ARE -- WHERE ARE THEY
  • 00:30:19
    WORKING?
  • 00:30:20
    ARE THEY WORKING AT THESE
  • 00:30:22
    NGOs?
  • 00:30:22
    THEY'RE THE ONES GETTING THIS
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    MONEY.
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    DOES THAT SEEM LIKE A SYSTEM
  • 00:30:24
    THAT LACKS CORRUPTION?
  • 00:30:27
    SOUNDS LIKE CORRUPTION TO ME.
  • 00:30:29
    >> Bret: LAST THING.
  • 00:30:29
    DO YOU GUYS ALL SEE THIS AS A
  • 00:30:31
    PATRIOTIC DUTY?
  • 00:30:32
    IS THAT REALLY WHAT THIS IS
  • 00:30:34
    ABOUT?
  • 00:30:35
    >> IT'S ESSENTIAL.
  • 00:30:36
    >> I DO.
  • 00:30:39
    100 PERCENT.
  • 00:30:39
    I WAS RUNNING FIVE BUSINESSES IN
  • 00:30:41
    HOUSTON.
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    AND I LEFT THAT.
  • 00:30:43
    I LEFT GREAT PEOPLE TO DO THIS.
  • 00:30:45
    AND MY WONDERFUL WIFE SAID GO
  • 00:30:46
    FOR IT.
  • 00:30:47
    AND HERE I AM.
  • 00:30:48
    BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ME
  • 00:30:49
    GIVING BACK TO THE COUNTRY.
  • 00:30:54
    .>> DID WE DON'T DO, THIS WE ARE
  • 00:30:56
    SHRUNK.
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    UNLESS THIS EXERCISE IS
  • 00:30:58
    SUCCESSFUL, THE SHIP OF AMERICA
  • 00:30:59
    WILL SINK.
  • 00:31:00
    THAT'S WHY WE ARE DOING IT.
  • 00:31:01
    >> Bret: GENTLEMEN, I REALLY
  • 00:31:03
    APPRECIATE THE TIME TODAY.
  • 00:31:05
    AND HOPEFULLY IT TOOK SOME OF
  • 00:31:06
    THE MYTH AND MYSTERY OUT O.
  • 00:31:14
    >> Bret: WE ASKED ON X YOUR
  • 00:31:18
    PLATFORM.
  • 00:31:18
    [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:19
    HERE IS C. SPERLING, HE WRITES
  • 00:31:21
    ARE THEY HAPPY AT THE SPEED IN
  • 00:31:23
    WHICH THEY ARE MAKING CHANGES?
  • 00:31:24
    ARE THERE ANY CHANGES THEY WOULD
  • 00:31:25
    LIKE TO MAKE BUT HAVEN'T YET?
  • 00:31:28
    >> WELL, I THINK IN THE CONTEXT
  • 00:31:29
    OF THE GOVERNMENT WE ARE MOVING
  • 00:31:32
    LIKE LIGHT ANY IN THE CONTEXT OF
  • 00:31:34
    WHAT I'M USED TO MOVING IT'S
  • 00:31:36
    SLOWER THAN WHAT I WOULD LIKE.
  • 00:31:38
    SO, WHAT SEEMS LIKE INCREDIBLY
  • 00:31:42
    FAST ACTION.
  • 00:31:43
    SLOWER THAN I WOULD LIKE TO BE
  • 00:31:45
    TOTALLY FRANK.
  • 00:31:47
    BUT BUT WE ARE MAKING SOLID
  • 00:31:51
    PROGRESS.
  • 00:31:51
    VERY SORT OF PHONY PROBLEM,
  • 00:31:54
    TOUGH -- REALLY IT'S KIND OF
  • 00:31:55
    LIKE PAINFUL HOME WORM FRANKLY
  • 00:31:59
    RECONCILING THE GOVERNMENT
  • 00:32:01
    DATABASES TO ELIMINATE WASTE AND
  • 00:32:05
    YOU FRAUD.
  • 00:32:06
    THE DATABASES DON'T TALK TO EACH
  • 00:32:07
    OTHER.
  • 00:32:07
    THAT'S THE BIGGEST SOURCE FOR
  • 00:32:09
    FRAUD IS THE FACT THAT THE
  • 00:32:11
    DATABASES DON'T TALK TO EACH
  • 00:32:13
    OTHER.
  • 00:32:13
    IT'S FRANKLY PAINFUL HOMEWORK
  • 00:32:15
    BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE AND WILL
  • 00:32:21
    GREATLY INPROVE THE EFFICIENCY
  • 00:32:22
    OF THE GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS.
  • 00:32:29
    >> THE GOVERNMENT HASN'T PASSED
  • 00:32:31
    AUDITS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
  • 00:32:32
    AS CRAZY IT SOUNDS THEY WILL
  • 00:32:34
    LOSE 20 OR $30 BILLION A YEAR.
  • 00:32:36
    THEY LITERALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE
  • 00:32:38
    IT WENT.
  • 00:32:39
    I MEAN, SENATOR COLLINS WAS
  • 00:32:40
    TELLING ME ABOUT HOW SHE GAVE
  • 00:32:43
    THE NAVY $12 BILLION FOR EXTRA
  • 00:32:46
    SUBMARINES.
  • 00:32:47
    GOT ZERO EXTRA SUBMARINES AND
  • 00:32:48
    THEN WHEN SHE HELD A HEARING
  • 00:32:50
    SAID WHERE DID THE $12 BILLION
  • 00:32:52
    GO THEY DIDN'T KNOW.
  • 00:32:53
    >> TALKING TO THOSE GUYS AND YOU
  • 00:32:54
    HAVE A GREAT TEAM YOU DON'T HAVE
  • 00:32:59
    TO BE HERE.
  • 00:33:03
    VIOLENCE AND VANDALISM AT TESLA
  • 00:33:05
    DEALERSHIPS.
  • 00:33:06
    HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR
  • 00:33:08
    EMPLOYEES, YOUR CUSTOMERS?
  • 00:33:09
    WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU, LIKE
  • 00:33:11
    HOW HAVE YOU TAKEN THAT IN?
  • 00:33:14
    >> I THINK A GREAT WRONG IS
  • 00:33:15
    BEING DONE TO THE PEOPLE AT
  • 00:33:17
    TESLA AND TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
  • 00:33:19
    TESLA IS A PEACEFUL COMPANY THAT
  • 00:33:20
    HAS MADE GREAT CARS, GREAT
  • 00:33:22
    PRODUCTS.
  • 00:33:23
    THAT'S ALL IT'S DONE.
  • 00:33:24
    IT HASN'T HARMED ANYONE.
  • 00:33:26
    AND YET PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING
  • 00:33:29
    VIOLENCE.
  • 00:33:29
    THEY ARE FIRE BOMBING TESLA
  • 00:33:31
    DEALERSHIPS.
  • 00:33:31
    THEY ARE SHOOTING GUNS INTO
  • 00:33:35
    STORES.
  • 00:33:35
    THEY ARE THREATENING PEOPLE.
  • 00:33:38
    YOU KNOW, THEY ARE ISSUING DEATH
  • 00:33:39
    THREATS AGAINST ME AND OTHER
  • 00:33:41
    TESLA PERSONNEL.
  • 00:33:43
    WHAT ARE THEY DOING THIS FOR?
  • 00:33:45
    WHY?
  • 00:33:46
    AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, IT SEEMS
  • 00:33:47
    TO ME, IS THEY ARE BEING FED
  • 00:33:49
    PROPAGANDA TO THE FAR LEFT.
  • 00:33:52
    AND THEY BELIEVE IT.
  • 00:33:55
    IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE.
  • 00:33:58
    THE REAL PROBLEM IS NOT NOT LIKE
  • 00:34:02
    THE CRAZY GUY THAT FIRE BOMBS A
  • 00:34:05
    TESLA DEALERSHIP, IT'S THE
  • 00:34:07
    PEOPLE PUSHING THE PROPAGANDA
  • 00:34:10
    THAT CAUSE THAT GUY TO DO IT.
  • 00:34:19
    GO AFTER THEM THE PRESIDENT IS
  • 00:34:23
    CLEAR.
  • 00:34:35
    ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
  • 00:34:36
    SEE ON THE FAR LEFT SOME EFFORTS
  • 00:34:37
    TO GO AFTER ELECTRIC VEHICLES IS
  • 00:34:39
    QUITE SOMETHING?
  • 00:34:41
    IT IS IRONIC.
  • 00:34:42
    IT SEEMS LIKE THE MOST IRONIC
  • 00:34:44
    OUTCOME IS THE MOST LIKELY.
  • 00:34:50
    >> Bret: PERSONALLY IT'S GOT TO
  • 00:34:51
    TAKE A TOLL.
  • 00:34:52
    >> IT DOES.
  • 00:34:56
    IT DOES.
  • 00:34:58
    I THINK THERE IS SOME REAL EVIL
  • 00:35:01
    OUT THERE.
  • 00:35:01
    AND WE HAVE TO OVERCOME IT.
  • 00:35:03
    >> Bret: I MEAN, YOU HAVE BEEN
  • 00:35:04
    CALLED A NAZI, A WHITE
  • 00:35:06
    SUPREMACIST, A FASCIST.
  • 00:35:08
    >> I MEAN I GOT THE NORMAL
  • 00:35:12
    PLAYBOOK.
  • 00:35:13
    THEY I GUESS STILL NEED TO CALL
  • 00:35:15
    ME STALIN, MUSSOLINI, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:35:19
    WHATEVER.
  • 00:35:19
    >> Bret: AND YOU ARE NOT.
  • 00:35:21
    >> I MEAN, THEY CALLED THE
  • 00:35:22
    PRESIDENT ALL THESE THINGS.
  • 00:35:23
    I THINK AT ONE POINT, THERE WAS
  • 00:35:26
    MAGAZINE COVER, WHICH SAID THE
  • 00:35:28
    PRESIDENT WAS WORST THAN -- THAT
  • 00:35:30
    PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS WORSE THAN
  • 00:35:32
    HITLER, MUSE LENA AND STALIN
  • 00:35:35
    COMBINED.
  • 00:35:35
    AND THE PRESIDENT HASN'T KILLED
  • 00:35:40
    ANYONE OWE HASN'T STARTED WARS,
  • 00:35:43
    IS HE GOOD AT STOPPING WARS.
  • 00:35:44
    THEY ARE PUSHING THESE LIES WHY
  • 00:35:48
    DO THEY PUSH THESE LIES?
  • 00:35:49
    I THINK WE NEED TO HOLD PEOPLE
  • 00:35:51
    RESPONSIBLE FOR PUSHING THESE
  • 00:35:52
    LIES.
  • 00:35:53
    BECAUSE THOSE LIES ALMOST GOT
  • 00:35:55
    THE PRESIDENT KILLED.
  • 00:35:58
    >> Bret: WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:35:59
    PEOPLE WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE
  • 00:36:00
    PRESIDENT YOU?
  • 00:36:00
    ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO HIM NOW.
  • 00:36:02
    YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH
  • 00:36:04
    HIM.
  • 00:36:04
    WHAT IS SOMETHING PEOPLE I THINK
  • 00:36:08
    THE PRESIDENT IS A GOOD MAN, HUN
  • 00:36:10
    NEXT MAN.
  • 00:36:11
    AND I HAVE YET TO SEE HIM DO
  • 00:36:16
    ANYTHING MEAN OR ANYTHING THAT
  • 00:36:18
    IS WRONG.
  • 00:36:18
    THAT I WOULD SAY MORALLY WRONG.
  • 00:36:21
    NOT EVEN ONCE.
  • 00:36:22
    >> Bret: A LOT IS COMING YOUR
  • 00:36:24
    WAY, BUT SOMETIMES YOU SAY STUFF
  • 00:36:25
    OR POST STUFF THAT GETS
  • 00:36:28
    ATTENTION.
  • 00:36:29
    YOU GIVE IT OUT, IN OTHER WORDS.
  • 00:36:31
    DEMOCRATIC ARIZONA SENATOR MARK
  • 00:36:33
    KELLY POSTED ON X ABOUT HIS TRIP
  • 00:36:34
    TO UKRAINE, TO PUSH FOR
  • 00:36:36
    CONTINUING TO SEND U.S. WEAPONS
  • 00:36:37
    AND SUPPORT THERE.
  • 00:36:38
    AND YOU POSTED THAT HE WAS A
  • 00:36:41
    TRAITOR.
  • 00:36:42
    WHY DO THAT?
  • 00:36:43
    >> WELL, I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD
  • 00:36:45
    BE -- SHOULD CARE ABOUT THE
  • 00:36:47
    INTEREST OF THE UNITED STATES
  • 00:36:48
    ABOVE THE INTEREST OF ANOTHER
  • 00:36:50
    COUNTRY.
  • 00:36:51
    AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY ARE A
  • 00:36:54
    TRAITOR.
  • 00:36:55
    >> Bret: IS HE A DECORATED
  • 00:36:56
    VETERAN, A FORMER ASTRONAUT A
  • 00:36:58
    SITTING SENATOR.
  • 00:36:59
    >> THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S FOR
  • 00:37:01
    HIM TO PUT THE INTEREST OF
  • 00:37:03
    ANOTHER COUNTRY ABOVE AMERICA.
  • 00:37:05
    >> Bret: OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE
  • 00:37:06
    SOME REPUBLICANS WHO THINK
  • 00:37:07
    SUPPORTING UKRAINE IS THE RIGHT
  • 00:37:08
    THING, STILL.
  • 00:37:09
    BUT THERE IS A BATTLE BACK AND
  • 00:37:11
    FORTH ABOUT HOW -- HOW DO YOU
  • 00:37:12
    THINK IT COMES TO AN END?
  • 00:37:18
    >> WELL, I THINK THERE WILL BE A
  • 00:37:21
    NEGOTIATED PEACE AND THE THING
  • 00:37:23
    THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED
  • 00:37:24
    ABOUT IS WE SHOULD THOUSANDS OF
  • 00:37:28
    PEOPLE DYING EVERY DAY IN
  • 00:37:30
    TRENCHES FOR NO MOVEMENT IN THE
  • 00:37:33
    LINES.
  • 00:37:34
    THE BORDERS HAVE REMAINED THE
  • 00:37:35
    SAME THE PAST TWO YEARS.
  • 00:37:37
    THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED
  • 00:37:38
    EVERY WEEK FOR NOTHING.
  • 00:37:43
    FOR WHAT?
  • 00:37:44
    AND I TAKE GREAT OFFENSE AT
  • 00:37:49
    THOSE WHO -- THOSE WHO PUT THE
  • 00:37:52
    APPEARANCE OF GOODNESS OVER THE
  • 00:37:54
    REALITY OF IT VIRTUE SIGNAL AND
  • 00:38:01
    CAN'T GIVE INTO RUSSIA BUT HAVE
  • 00:38:02
    NO SOLUTION TO STOPPING
  • 00:38:03
    THOUSANDS OF KIDS DYING EVERY
  • 00:38:05
    DAY.
  • 00:38:05
    THEY JUST WANT THAT TO CONTINUE
  • 00:38:08
    FOREVER.
  • 00:38:09
    I HAVE CONTEMPT FOR SUCH PEOPLE.
  • 00:38:11
    I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
  • 00:38:14
    BECAUSE THEY ARE VIRTUE
  • 00:38:16
    SIGNALING AND THEIR LACK OF A
  • 00:38:17
    SOLUTION MEANS THAT KIDS DON'T
  • 00:38:20
    HAVE A FATHER.
  • 00:38:21
    IT MEANS THAT PARENTS LOST A
  • 00:38:23
    SON.
  • 00:38:27
    FOR WHAT?
  • 00:38:29
    NOTHING.
  • 00:38:30
    >> Bret: YOU ARE OPTIMISTIC THAT
  • 00:38:31
    THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN MIGHT WORK?
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