PayPal Stock: The Good, The Bad & The HUGE Opportunity

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Resumo

TLDRPayPal's latest quarterly earnings report indicates a shift towards profitable growth with improved transaction margins and share repurchases. Revenue increased by 1%, with transaction margin dollars showing a 7% year-over-year growth. Active accounts reached a record 436 million. Although the stock is currently undervalued and down significantly year-to-date, PayPal is strategically positioning itself for future growth with initiatives like expanding its ad business and emphasizing value-added services. Market guidance remains stable, which is positively received by investors as they remain cautious of macroeconomic impacts.

Conclusões

  • 📈 Revenue increased by 1% this quarter.
  • 📊 Transaction margin dollars grew by 7% year-over-year.
  • 💳 Active accounts reached 436 million.
  • 🛍️ Strong focus on profitable growth rather than high growth.
  • 📉 Stock remains undervalued, down 23% year-to-date.
  • 🔄 Share repurchases of $1.5 billion this quarter.
  • 🌍 Expanding ad business internationally.
  • 🤖 New strategies for PayPal debit card adoption successful.
  • 👀 Guidance unchanged and positively received by the market.
  • 🤔 Long-term outlook remains bullish despite current challenges.

Linha do tempo

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    PayPal's latest quarterly earnings report revealed a shift from growth mode to profitable growth, showing improvements in transaction margins and profitability, despite a slight year-over-year revenue increase of only 1%. The stock was down initially but showed signs of recovery. Key strategies presented include expansion in branded checkout experiences and significant growth in Venmo's transaction volume, with the overall aim of transitioning towards stronger profit margins by 2025. Shareholder support through stock buybacks was also a highlight, with $1.5 billion returned in the quarter alone.

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    For the current quarter, PayPal reported increased total payment volume (TPV) growth of 4% year-over-year, bolstered by engagement in branded experiences and active account growth. Analysts posed questions regarding macroeconomic conditions and plans for increased international ads. Concerns about consumer spending were addressed with demonstrated resilience in transaction margins, which have grown year-over-year for five consecutive quarters. While PayPal's pace might be slower compared to other fintech firms, there is a sense of cautious optimism regarding its long-term profitability and market positioning, with the expectation that the stock will regain value following strategic enhancements.

Mapa mental

Vídeo de perguntas e respostas

  • What was PayPal's revenue for the quarter?

    Total revenue for the quarter was $7.79 billion.

  • How did the stock react to the earnings report?

    Initially, the stock was down 3-4% but later rose 1-1.5%.

  • What is PayPal's focus now?

    PayPal is focused on profitable growth rather than high growth.

  • What has been the trend in transaction margin dollars?

    Transaction margin dollars have increased by 7% year-over-year.

  • How many active accounts does PayPal have?

    PayPal has 436 million active accounts.

  • What is the guidance for the next quarter?

    They expect transaction margin dollars to increase by 4-5% year-over-year.

  • Is PayPal's ad business expanding?

    Yes, PayPal has recently expanded its ad business internationally.

  • How did the market react to PayPal's guidance?

    The unchanged guidance has been viewed positively by the market.

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    PayPal released their latest quarterly
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    figures before the market opened. And
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    when that happened, the stock was
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    actually down 3 to 4% at the time of
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    making this video were actually up 1 to
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    1.5%. So let's go over the earnings
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    report and a couple of comments that
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    were made in the earnings call I already
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    covered so far. If you missed that
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    video, that will be in the top right
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    corner. Now for PayPal, it's important
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    to note that we are not in growth mode.
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    We are in profitable growth mode. Now
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    profitable growth mode mean that the
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    business is still growing year-over-year
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    might not be growing by much but
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    profitability wise transaction margin
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    dollars EPS margins as a whole is
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    improving each and every quarter and
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    that's the most important part as of
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    on them in just a bit. So, PayPal,
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    PayPal is a stock or PayPal, should I
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    say, because yeah, really, if you look
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    at the last 12 months, this is a stock
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    that in the last 12 months basically did
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    well, absolutely nothing. It's still
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    down
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    1.7%. Craziest thing here is that year
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    to date, year to date, we're still down
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    around
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    23%. I mean, it was undervalued before.
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    It is extremely undervalued right now.
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    We're back in the 60s. were of course
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    closer to $100 a couple of months ago.
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    But this is a company where margins are
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    improving, free cash flows are in the
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    billions. They're buying back stocks
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    quite a lot each and every quarter.
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    PE-wise, it is very low. Of course, it
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    should not be that high because this is
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    not a high growth company. So, I
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    understand that. But still, there is
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    quite a lot of value here. But then
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    again, the turnaround story in this case
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    is also well taking a little bit more
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    time. All right, let's start with slide
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    number one here. Advancing strategic
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    growth drivers. So, of course, we've
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    seen that already last quarter, but we
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    do have now updated numbers. So, first
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    up, win at checkout scaling highest
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    converting checkout experiences. So, now
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    over 45% of US branded checkout traffic
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    is on the new experience. 3 months ago,
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    that was 25%. So, quite some growth
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    there. They're also going to expand to
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    Europe, more specifically the UK and
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    Germany. They also said that they've
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    seen over 50% pay with Venmo TPV growth
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    in Q1. Then as for scale omni channel
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    and grow with Venmo, building momentum
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    beyond e-commerce. So they've added
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    around 2 million firsttime PayPal and
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    Venmo debit card users in Q1. Around 40%
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    of Venmo debit card monthly active
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    accounts growth in Q1 as well. and
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    buying operator TPV grew by more than
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    20%. As for PSP selling their strong
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    suit of value added services. So this is
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    again where the strategy come in right
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    pricing to value which is why we're not
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    seeing revenue growing as fast as
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    previously expected. But the margin
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    profile, the profitability profile is
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    becoming better and better. Now remember
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    the plan is for that to happen in 2025.
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    So we could see revenue reacelerate in
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    2026. So they've meaningfully increased
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    transaction margin dollar growth
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    contribution from PSP in Q1. They've
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    launched optimized debit routing with
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    Wfair and Upwork and fraud protection
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    advanced with Regal Cinemas. And then as
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    for the last part right here, scale next
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    gen growth vector. So here we're talking
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    about crypto, we're talking about
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    PayUSD. And I'll talk a little bit more
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    about the ads business further down the
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    line. All right. So for the quarter,
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    what did we have? We've had total
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    revenue of
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    $7.79 billion. Of course, most of it is
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    coming from transaction revenue. And now
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    the rest here, the blue part right here,
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    that's the other value added services,
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    which has to do with everything uh but
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    well the payment services. And that has
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    actually been increasing quite nicely
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    each and every quarter. Of course, very
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    very small part of the business, but
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    it's always nice to see that
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    reacelerate. Now if you want to see more
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    segment and KPIs when you look at the
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    financials for PayPal or any other
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    company you can scroll down and look at
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    the key performance indicators for
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    example active accounts you can see how
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    many they are how much that has grown
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    yearoveryear and that would create a
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    very very goodlooking chart for us. Of
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    course, we can see that it has increased
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    2.1% year-over-year to a record
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    436 million for the quarter. The
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    previous record was back here December
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    2022 at
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    435 million. And here as well, you can
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    see that growth started to reacelerate
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    in 2023 or towards the end of 2023. Now,
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    of course, we can look at various other
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    things where they generate the revenue
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    from etc etc. number of payment
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    transactions. All of that can be found
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    Pro for free. Continuing here and
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    looking at TPV growth. So total TPV
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    increased by 4% year-over-year. We've
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    seen a 2% increase in PSP or payment
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    service providers, 8% increase in P2B
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    and 4% in branded or 6% if you exclude
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    leap day. Now if we look at branded
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    experiences online and offline, that
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    actually increased 7% year-over-year and
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    Venmo increased 10%. So quite a good
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    performance when you look at TPV.
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    Looking at account and activity metrics,
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    we've seen the active accounts which we
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    can see again right here powered by
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    Finchad. We can look at monthly active
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    accounts that has increased 2%
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    year-over-year. Number of payment
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    transactions that's down 7%
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    year-over-year. They're saying here
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    reflecting pricetoval actions driving
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    lower pre-intentry transactions which
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    again was to be expected. Now, you might
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    say, "Okay, so far, I mean, this quarter
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    looks okay, maybe weaker than expected,
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    but to be honest, no, it's not weaker
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    than expected. It's just that, well, we
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    were expecting a weak quarter. We were
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    expecting 2025 to be the year of
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    profitable growth, but very, very low
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    growth. Then, looking at transaction
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    margin dollars, fifth consecutive
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    quarter where we've seen year-over-year
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    growth. So, that has increased by 7%
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    year-over-year. transaction margin at
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    47.7% that has increased 274 basis
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    points year-over-year. Very very good to
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    see. And so all in all, what did we get?
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    Revenue increase of just 1% but non-GAAP
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    operating income did increase 16%.
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    Non-GAAP operating margin of 20.7%
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    that's up
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    257 basis points year-over-year. and on
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    the app EPS of $1.33 that has increased
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    23% year-over-year. They also returned $
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    1.5 billion via share repurchases $6
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    billion on a trailing 12-month basis
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    reducing weighted average shares by 7%.
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    So I mean if they can continue to do
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    that I believe by early 2030s this
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    company will just be private. Moving on
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    to the take rate. So total take rate did
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    decrease to 1.87% 87% transaction take
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    rate did come down as well to 1.68% 68%.
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    They say here that transaction take rate
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    is down six basis points driven by
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    payouts and merchant mix within Brainree
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    and branded checkout. International TPV
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    did increase 5% on an FX neutral basis
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    driven by continued growth in Europe and
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    crossber TPV increased by 6% also on FX
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    neutral basis driven predominantly by
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    intrauropean corridors. And so looking
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    at free cash flow for the quarter that
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    was just under a billion dollars, they
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    say here that free cash flow includes
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    negative impacts from the timing between
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    originating European buy now pay later
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    receivables as held for sale and the
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    subsequent sale of these receivables,
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    changes in working capital and shifting
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    a portion of annual incentive plan from
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    stock to cash, which is why we're seeing
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    here, of course, a 45% decrease
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    yearover-year. As for guidance for next
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    quarter for the full year, not much has
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    changed which has been seen as a
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    positive by the market especially with
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    everything that's going on right now. So
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    for the second quarter they expect
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    transaction margin dollars to increase
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    four to 5% yearover-year. Non-GAAP EPS
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    to increase 9% at the midpoint and GAP
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    EPS to be between 1.24 and
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    1.25. As for a full year of fiscal year
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    2025, transaction margin dollars, same
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    thing here, four to five% year-over-year
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    growth, non-GAAP EPS growing 8% at the
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    midpoint, free cash flow between 6 to 7
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    billion and repurchases of shares around
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    $6 billion. So again, nothing much has
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    changed and that has been viewed as
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    something positive by the market because
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    they also said that look given the
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    uncertainties right now we even though
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    we had a strong start of the year even
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    though Q2 looks okay we want to give
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    ourselves some flexibility for the
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    second half of the year in case there
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    are some drastic changes aka a decline
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    in consumer spending e-commerce activity
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    and all of that and so a couple of
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    things that were mentioned during the
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    earnings call PayPal debit Card TPV
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    growth exceeded 100% in Q1. Users who
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    adopted the PayPal debit card transacted
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    nearly six times more and generated more
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    than two times the average revenue per
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    account compared to those who use online
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    branded checkout only. As for the PSP
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    business, the PSP business remains a key
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    driver of transaction margin dollar
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    growth with a focus on value added
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    services. That's the blue bars that
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    we've seen at the start of the video.
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    Talking about the macroeconomic
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    considerations the company's monitoring
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    consumer and SMB held closely as well as
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    the potential impact of tariffs and
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    geopolitical events. PayPal recently
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    expanded its ad business internationally
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    with a launch in the UK and is launching
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    offsite ads which are ads informed by
  • 00:11:19
    PayPal's insight but placed outside of
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    the PayPal platform. It still is very
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    very small. I wouldn't really expect
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    that much from PayPal ads in 2025. It's
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    probably something that will affect the
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    top line and bottom line for the company
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    probably starting in
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    2026. An analyst at JP Morgan asked
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    about macroeconomic impacts on consumer
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    and SMB held. The CEO noted consistent
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    consumer behavior and opportunities in
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    the buy now pay later and rewards
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    program. The CFO added that charge off
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    rates and delinquencies showed stability
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    or improvement. Then Dolph from Mizuo
  • 00:11:56
    asked the following. He inquired about
  • 00:11:58
    branded experience. TPV traction. Alex
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    Chris emphasized the success of both
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    PayPal debit card adoption and its
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    impact on consumer habituation. As for
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    an analyst at Barclays, they asked about
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    well the impacts of tariffs on the
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    business. The CFO said was specifically
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    when it comes to the China side. CFO
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    said that Chinese merchants selling into
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    the US represent less than 2% of branded
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    checkout TPV. And then the last one
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    here, Bank of America. They were looking
  • 00:12:26
    for insights into branded volume growth.
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    Alex Chris highlighted improvements in
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    branded checkout experiences and plans
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    for European expansion. And so to
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    conclude this quarter for PayPal, yes,
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    it can be painful holding this stock,
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    especially if you look at other fintech
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    stocks that are moving faster than
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    PayPal. Yes, it's true. Some others are
  • 00:12:47
    in their growth phase. PayPal not so
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    much. They're more focused right now on
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    well to be honest changing the business,
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    changing the way people interact with
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    the whole PayPal ecosystem, but they're
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    doing so in a very profitable way. So
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    yes, I would say the growth story is
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    taking maybe a bit longer than what I
  • 00:13:06
    previously expected, but definitely not
  • 00:13:08
    longer than what we were told a quarter
  • 00:13:11
    or two ago. I think things are still on
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    track. Yes, the stock's reaction, the
  • 00:13:16
    stocks movement sucks for sure. I didn't
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    think we would be back in the 60s, but
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    then again, I don't control the market.
  • 00:13:22
    Alex Chris doesn't control the stock as
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    well. They can just buy back more and
  • 00:13:26
    more shares in the meantime, but I do
  • 00:13:29
    still think that this will be a
  • 00:13:31
    tripledigit stock. When? That's a very
  • 00:13:34
    good question. I remain pretty bullish
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    on the company until I get proven wrong
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    by management. But if I look at the
  • 00:13:41
    data, things are moving in the right
  • 00:13:44
    direction. So, all in all, that's about
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    Bye-bye.
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  • profitability
  • stock market
  • financial results
  • active accounts
  • transaction margins
  • share repurchase
  • ad business
  • growth strategy