Josh on Killing: Do You Miss War? | On Killing: Season 1 | Cut

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Resumo

TLDRHaastattelussa keskustellaan sodasta ja tappamisesta veteraanin näkökulmasta. Hän kuvaa kokemuksiaan ensimmäisestä tappamisestaan Shogranin laaksossa ja siitä, miten sota muuttui hänelle työksi, jota halusi vain tehdä loppuun päästäkseen kotiin. Haastateltava avaa myös sodan kaipausta ja sen alkukantaista viehätystä, vaikka myöntää, että jotkut tapahtumat, kuten naisen tappaminen, olivat vaikeita. Haastateltava kokee tärkeäksi, että veteraanit puhuvat avoimesti kokemuksistaan, vaikka samalla heidän tehtävänsä oli suojella siviilejä näiltä kokemuksilta. Hän myös kyseenalaistaa filosofisesti elämän arvon sodassa, vertailen omaa elämäänsä vihollisten elämään.

Conclusões

  • 🔫 Tappaminen puolustustarkoituksessa on oikeutettua haastateltavan mielestä.
  • ✈️ Lentokoneonnettomuus motivoi liittymään armeijaan.
  • 💣 Ensimmäinen tappo tapahtui kranaatinheittimellä.
  • 🏞️ Sodan kokemus pidetään primitiivisenä ja alkukantaisena.
  • 👩 Naisen tappaminen taistelussa herätti ristiriitaisia tunteita.
  • 🗣️ Veteraanien tulisi puhua kokemuksistaan avoimesti eteenpäin.
  • 🛡️ Armeijassa tehtävänä oli suojella siviilejä sodan kauhuilta.
  • 🤔 Filosofoi elämän arvostuksesta sodan keskellä.

Linha do tempo

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    Haastateltava käsittelee näkemyksiään moraalista ja elämästä. Hän kasvoi juutalaisessa perheessä, jossa tappamiseen suhtauduttiin realistisesti, eikä sitä pidetty aina pahana, jos oli syy. Hän koki nuorena lentoturman, joka sai hänet miettimään elämänsä arvoja ja päätymään armeijaan. Hän paljastaa tappaneensa ihmisiä, erityisesti muistellen ensimmäistä tapausta, jossa hän käytti kranaatinheitintä. Hän kuvailee sodan kokemuksiaan ja tuntemuksiaan, korostaen sodan primaalisuutta ja manlinessiä. Hän pohtii elämän ja kuoleman roolia sodassa ja pohtii, onko yhden elämä arvokkaampi kuin toisen. Hän myös kehottaa veteraaneja puhumaan kokemuksistaan, jotta siviilit ymmärtäisivät paremmin, mutta samalla säästääkseen heidät sotakokemusten tuomista tunteista.

Mapa mental

Mind Map

Perguntas frequentes

  • Milloin on hyväksyttävää viedä toisen henki haastateltavan näkemyksen mukaan?

    Jos joku pyrkii vahingoittamaan minua tai perhettäni, teen kaikkeni estääkseni sen. Jos se tarkoittaa heidän tappamistaan, niin olkoon.

  • Miksi haastateltava liittyi armeijaan?

    Hän liittyi armeijaan, koska koki lentokoneonnettomuuden ollessaan 17-vuotias, ja halusi tehdä jotain merkityksellistä elämällään.

  • Miten haastateltava kokee ensimmäisen tapponsa?

    Hän muistaa ensimmäisen tapponsa elävästi, käytti kranaatinheitintä tappaakseen miehen ja kuvailee tapahtumaa melko raa'asti.

  • Kaipaako haastateltava sotaa?

    Kyllä, hän kaipaa sotaa ja kuvailee sen olevan äärimmäisen alkukantaista ja syvällistä.

  • Miksi haastateltava katsoo, että muiden veteraanien pitäisi puhua kokemuksistaan?

    Haastateltava uskoo, että keskustelu auttaisi sekä veteraaneja että siviilejä ymmärtämään toistensa kokemuksia paremmin.

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    - To you, when is it okay to take someone's life?
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    If they mean to do harm to myself or my family
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    I'll do anything I can to prevent them from doing it.
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    If it means taking their life,
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    fuck 'em, they've chosen their path.
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    I grew up religious.
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    I grew up in a Jewish household.
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    Judaism is one of those religions where
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    killing wasn't a bad thing.
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    They look at it at a realistic standpoint.
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    Don't do it if there's no reason behind it.
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    When I was a kid growing up,
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    I didn't have a lot of direction.
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    But I was in a plane crash when I was 17,
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    and after that, I was like,
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    "I need to do something with my life.”
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    Because, I almost just died,
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    and didn't stand for anything.
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    That's why I joined up.
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    - Have you ever killed anyone?
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    Yes.
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    Yes I have.
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    - Are there any that stand out to you?
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    My first one stands out the most.
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    We were in Shogran Valley.
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    Early in my deployment,
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    we might have been in the country for 12 or 15 days.
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    My first kill was this guy,
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    I just watched him running from a tree
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    to a larger rock outcropping, right in front of us.
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    He might have been 100 meters away.
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    I aimed my grenade launcher at him and fired,
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    and I watched my round go right in,
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    and just nail him right at his feet.
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    Was just (blows) guts.
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    It was pretty rad.
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    Everything is just split second, just (snaps)
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    you're a cunt hair away from getting killed.
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    It's just pulling the trigger.
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    You really just turn it into a job.
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    You just wanna get it done.
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    Then you go home, you can go back to your bed,
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    have a fake beer, and jack off.
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    - Do you miss anything about war?
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    I miss every goddamn second of it.
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    The war was awesome, it was so primal, and
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    deep, almost.
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    It felt like ancestors were inside me, you know?
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    Like you're doing something that,
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    that mankind's been doing ever since
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    we've had mankind.
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    The two things we've been doing, ever since we came out of
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    whatever we evolved from,
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    are fuck and kill.
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    There's nothing more manly
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    than watching helicopters fly overhead,
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    as you shoot a bunch of dudes.
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    As you're in a fucking gun fight.
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    Or shooting a goddamn missile at a person.
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    That's awesome!
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    - Are there any other kills that stand out to you?
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    - That you remember?
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    Yeah.
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    We were in a couple different villages,
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    in Sarobi,
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    and we'd gunned down these two guys
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    holding a larger machine gun, a PKM,
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    and they were right next to a qualm.
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    A qalat’s a house,
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    like a little mud hut.
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    And, a lady came out.
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    You don't shoot women or children on the battlefield,
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    it's hard but you can differentiate between
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    a man and a female.
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    We were just so into the moment,
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    we watched her pick up the rifle,
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    well, the machine gun,
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    and that was the cue.
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    And we just opened up,
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    it was just blood up against the wall.
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    She just slumped over, and it's like, "All right, we got her."
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    That one was a little rough, only because it was a woman.
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    You kind of have a code in your mind, as a soldier,
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    that you don't shoot women and kids.
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    You don't want to!
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    You never want to.
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    Because they're not the ones starting the fight.
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    But, you don't pick up the weapon, they know better.
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    That country's been in a war since its inception,
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    whenever the hell the country was created.
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    Ever since people started living there.
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    In war, you have to kinda weigh
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    someone else's life versus yours, or your buddy's,
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    and live with that feeling that you've killed someone,
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    because you have to go home, yourself.
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    I'm in college now.
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    Had I let them outweigh their lives versus mine,
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    I'm dead, what are they doing?
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    They're still living in their little village herding goats,
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    and that's the entire life that they know.
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    Or they're some mercenary asshole,
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    or they're some Taliban dickhead from Pakistan.
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    That's their life, is to wage war on people.
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    Mine is to come back,
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    eventually raise a family, maybe own a business.
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    Who the hell knows?
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    Is one life more precious than the other?
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    No, but in the grand scheme of things,
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    I felt like I wanted to go home more than they did,
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    and here I am now.
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    - Do you think more veterans should be open
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    - to talk about these things?
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    Absolutely.
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    I think it would help.
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    I think every veteran should talk.
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    We want you guys to know what we've been through,
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    so you can understand what we've been through.
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    But, we don't want you guys to know what we've been through.
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    To know how it feels to kill a person.
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    Our entire sole purpose of joining up,
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    and doing what we did, was to prevent you guys
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    from having to know what that feels like.
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    But, talk about it.
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    We're not wounded ducks.
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    Fucking soldiers!
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    Civilians love our fucking stories.
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    You know how many times I've gotten fucking laid?
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    A lot.
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    Chicks dig that shit.
Etiquetas
  • sota
  • tappaminen
  • veteraanit
  • armeija
  • Shogranin laakso
  • keskustelu
  • kokemukset
  • taistelu
  • juutalaisuus
  • moraali