Why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer | Us & Them | DW Documentary

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Summary

TLDRThe content explores varying perspectives on capitalism, poverty, and the growing inequality in South Africa and the UK. Interviewees present personal narratives highlighting how capitalism can be seen as both beneficial and as a form of modern-day slavery. In South Africa, business owner Sakhumzi Maqubela shares his success story contributing to the local economy and employment, juxtaposed against prolonged unemployment and poverty for many due to apartheid-era legacies. In contrast, the UK segment addresses poverty through the lens of food banks, exorbitant housing costs, and the societal divide between the wealthy and the impoverished, exacerbated by limited social housing and government aid cuts. The discussions reflect on larger economic issues, social injustices, and potential calls for revolution amidst rising inequality.

Takeaways

  • 🏆 Capitalism offers opportunities for those who work hard, yet concurrently fosters stark economic disparities.
  • 🗝️ Poverty is described as dehumanizing, creating an ongoing struggle for survival.
  • 🏚️ South Africa's past of apartheid continues to perpetuate income and social inequality.
  • 💥 In the UK, the growing housing crisis and reliance on food banks highlight economic distress.
  • 🚀 "Rags to riches" stories, like that of Sakhumzi Maqubela, offer hope amid systemic challenges.
  • 🏗️ The economic divide questions if wealth is determined by destiny or circumstance.
  • ⛓️ Inequality persists with extreme wealth concentration among a few, causing potential social unrest.
  • 🍽️ Initiatives like Second Chance Cafe aim to mitigate poverty, fostering community support.
  • 🚌 High unemployment in South Africa leads to joblessness and entrenched poverty for many.
  • 🐢 Cost of living pressures in the UK exacerbate poverty, particularly in housing and wages.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The conversation starts with differing views on capitalism and poverty. It highlights the struggles of climbing the economic ladder, the chances some perceive everyone to have, and questioning whether wealth and poverty are due to destiny, luck, or other factors. Princess Manuka Majola shares her story of making ends meet through various jobs, despite a challenging background, inspired by Nelson Mandela's call for proactive action against unemployment and crime.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Sakhumzi Maqubela, a restaurant owner from Soweto, discusses his role in building the local economy, which contrasts with South Africa's status as a nation with significant inequality. This segment highlights the racial and spatial legacies of apartheid that continue to perpetuate disparities in income, education, and living conditions, particularly for the black population and women.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Jamie Burnham from Hackney talks about his experience with unemployment and reliance on food banks, which are growing due to poverty in Britain. This part reflects on the gap between the rich and poor in the UK, with 20% living in poverty. It also emphasizes how systemic issues, such as unaffordable housing and eroded state benefits, force people to depend on food banks.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The narrative explores personal struggles with economic instability and limited opportunities. There are stories highlighting the challenges due to brain injury affecting one's ability to work, familial responsibilities amidst financial constraints, and societal issues like a high unemployment rate in South Africa, affecting 24 million adults. In the UK, housing problems persist despite being a developed country.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:28:26

    Liz Brewer and others discuss wealth disparity, high living costs, and unfair tax practices among the wealthy. The segment also talks about grassroots support systems like Second Chance Cafe, which helps those in need while encouraging community integration. The narrative wraps up by touching on potential social upheaval due to ongoing inequality and the individual's role in creating change.

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Video Q&A

  • What is the main theme of the video?

    The video explores the themes of capitalism, poverty, and inequality in both South Africa and the UK.

  • Who are some of the people featured in the video?

    Key figures include Princess Manuka Majola, Sakhumzi Maqubela, Liz Brewer, and Jamie Burnham.

  • What does Princess Manuka Majola do for a living?

    She washes people's laundry and fills out forms to pay her rent.

  • What is the significance of Vilakazi Street in Soweto?

    It's a famous street with historical significance, home to Nelson Mandela and Archbishop Desmond Tutu, and boasts ten restaurants owned by Sakhumzi Maqubela.

  • How does the UK video segment portray poverty?

    It highlights the prevalence of food banks, rising housing costs, and the reliance on government benefits by those in poverty.

  • What challenges does the South African segment highlight?

    Challenges include high unemployment rates, inequality stemming from apartheid, and the economic divide between rich and poor.

  • What is the Second Chance Cafe?

    A cafe where people pay what they can afford, providing a community space where people can share meals regardless of their financial situation.

  • How does inequality manifest in South Africa?

    It manifests in disparities in income, education, healthcare, and living conditions, with a stark divide between rich and poor.

  • What is the impact of the housing crisis in Britain?

    It has led to a housing system imbalance where social housing is scarce, forcing many to rent overpriced and substandard homes.

  • What is the historical context of inequality in South Africa?

    Inequality is deeply rooted in apartheid and colonialism, leaving a legacy of racial and spatial segregation.

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  • 00:00:04
    We are ready to start working here.
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    By Friday, we need to open, here.
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    Yes, I do believe in capitalism that if you work hard,
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    then you need to benefit.
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    Yes, I think capitalism is slavery.
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    To be poor means
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    to be a beggar.
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    To be always asking.
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    It kills the person in you, the human being in you.
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    So that's how costly poverty is.
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    Being poor is difficult.
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    When I’m climbing the ladder, things can happen.
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    Things go wrong and then a couple of rungs of the ladder
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    can get broken and you fall down to the bottom again.
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    So you've got to start climbing again.
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    I think everybody has a chance and it's been proved time and time again.
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    To sit down and resent somebody who's got more than you,
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    in my book is unacceptable because there's no reason
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    that you couldn't be in that place because you've got every opportunity.
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    Being rich or poor
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    is it destiny, luck, or something else entirely?
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    With the gap between rich and poor growing ever wider,
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    how can people continue to see eye to eye?
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    My name is Princess Manuka Majola
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    It's a name I got from my dad because
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    at that time I was the Princess.
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    Through the work that I do, washing people's laundry
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    and filling out forms, I'm able to pay my rent.
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    At some point it was bad that I had to sell some of my stuff
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    just to make sure that I have a roof over my head.
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    My mother was a kitchen girl, my father was a garden boy…
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    When the former president,
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    Nelson Mandela said people must stop complaining
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    that unemployment is high in the country.
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    People must stop complaining the crime is high.
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    He asked,
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    what are you doing in your own capacity to create jobs or curb crime?
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    That touched me.
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    I said, let me make a difference.
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    My name is Sakhumzi Maqubela, I come from Soweto, South Africa
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    a township in Johannesburg.
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    I'm a businessman,
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    I run Sakhumzi restaurant in the very famous Vilakazi street in Soweto,
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    that has been running for 23 years.
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    Sakhumzi means we are building a home.
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    Oh really?
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    Nice.
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    Yes.
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    It's the only restaurant between the Archbishop
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    Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela with two Nobel Peace Prize winners.
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    The archbishop used to stay in this house next door.
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    Really?
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    All right, but so far, so good, guys.
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    In Soweto, I can say, I am the biggest employer.
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    More than 1000 people are working,
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    because we have ten more restaurants.
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    When we started in 2001, there was no economy in Vilakazi Street.
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    Meaning there was no one exchanging money.
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    People were coming in and out.
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    We are making a difference in the economy of Soweto.
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    South Africa is one of Africa’s most developed economies.
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    Yet, it’s also one of the most unequal countries in the world.
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    The legacy left by colonialism and apartheid,
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    rooted in racial and spatial segregation,
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    has created a death spiral of inequality
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    in income, education, quality of
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    health and household living conditions.
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    Where the black population, and black women in particular, suffer the most.
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    My name is Liz Brewer and I live in Belgravia.
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    Belgravia is just an area of London.
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    You've got Buckingham Palace nearby.
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    You've got some of the most stately London homes around.
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    I've been to Chelsea or Kensington, but as only when I'm playing monopoly.
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    I'm receiving benefits at present.
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    Is about £320 per month,
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    which isn't that much really,
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    compared to how much the prices have gone up for different food
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    and drink or whatnot.
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    My name is Jamie Burnham and I live in Hackney.
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    I haven't worked for about five and a half years now.
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    There's poverty and there’s poverty.
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    There's people who have got used to not working and being given handouts
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    and they've liked that lifestyle.
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    It's this feeling that, they're entitled,
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    they're entitled to being given it.
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    Without the food banks I’d find it extremely difficult to cope.
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    I mean.
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    Take me to the nearest food bank here.
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    Show it to me.
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    There’s more food banks than there are McDonald's in the UK,
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    which is difficult to believe, but there is.
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    Despite Britain being one of the richest countries in the world,
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    20% of its population
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    that’s 14 million people
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    live in poverty.
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    The costs of housing, food,
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    and energy have hit people on low incomes hardest.
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    And state benefits have been eroded over the preceding decades
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    forcing almost 3 million people to rely on 2,500 foodbanks for survival.
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    We have to tell the volunteers,
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    it is 1 Weetabix not 2.
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    There's plenty of it down here.
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    Last week, we had 340 collecting…
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    ...over 14 hundred we collected for
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    Which is the biggest amount we ever had.
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    How many people are you collecting for?
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    Oh, just myself.
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    Just yourself, Okay.
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    If you go around that way.
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    Thank you.
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    Would you like some milk?
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    Do you have normal milk or soya milk?
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    Just normal milk, please.
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    Thank you.
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    Would you like some cereal?
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    Porridge?
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    Yes, I’ll have some porridge, please.
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    I have one toilet roll please?
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    Can you get it for me?
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    Yes I can.
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    There you go.
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    Thank you very much.
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    And choose two fruits.
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    Oh.
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    Some weeks we have piles and piles.
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    This has to stretch for all people.
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    Pear, please.
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    And another one?
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    Tangerine or Banana?
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    Tangerine, please!
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    I trained for three years as a carpenter's apprentice,
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    and the day I passed I was run over by a car.
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    And I had to wait seven and a half years being temporarily retired
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    because of the brain injury with no work.
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    I couldn't do any heavy lifting or building work ever again
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    because of the brain injury.
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    So that was the three years carpentry apprenticeship,
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    messed up completely and I had to go for something else.
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    Office work.
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    Life has been good in the last ten years.
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    I live with my three children and my wife.
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    We've got two domestic workers.
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    We've been in Douglasdale for the last ten years.
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    It's one of those wealthy neighborhoods of Sandton.
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    I get to work seven days a week and I've got crazy hours.
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    I've got a panel beating shop that has been running for 12 years.
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    From my employees, I expect performance from them.
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    When I hire them,
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    I make it clear that I've hired them to make more money.
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    Most of their parents are in jail,
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    most of their parents are ship ins, meaning pubs.
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    I have to educate them to tell them that they are special,
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    that they are important in this country.
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    So once they know themselves,
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    they are able to perform and look after our clients
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    because at least they love themselves.
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    I grew up with parents, who were working, both of them.
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    Loving parents, loving grandparents.
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    In 1985, my parents had a car accident.
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    I can say I lost it.
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    I could not focus very well.
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    I was acting as if I'm happy.
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    But when you don't have love, when you don't know what is life all about,
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    then you become poor.
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    But later through reading good books,
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    I had to find myself and accept that whether you’ve got parents,
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    whether you come from divorced family,
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    you are not special with your problems.
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    I'm a mother of four kids, three boys and a daughter.
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    My last born, which is my girl, her father passed on.
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    He was actually gunned down in front of his daughter
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    at his parents’ home just at the entrance.
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    She's staying with her grandparents because, um,
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    I can't be able to provide money to pay her fees.
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    That pains me a lot, because it's
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    like a history is repeating itself.
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    I grew up with my grandmother from maternal side.
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    My parents split up when I was only four years old.
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    After not seeing my mom for a whole year she came back home.
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    So she spent with us Christmas Day and on the 31st in the morning,
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    she went back,
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    only to be met by her death
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    because she was stabbed by her boyfriend
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    at around 5:30 in the evening the same day.
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    I was only turning 11.
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    And life wasn't the same ever again.
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    My boys are out of school.
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    Um.
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    They are sitting at home.
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    They are not working.
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    So they came and requested me to assist them
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    with giving them 300 rand so that they could stock up some cigarettes,
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    some food stuffs, some sweets, some chips,
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    so that they can have a table of their own and start selling something.
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    Sometimes they actually use more than their profit
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    then I have to make sure, I find money again to invest.
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    So it's a bit shaky.
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    From 0 to 18 I can look after my children,
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    but I cannot be there for them forever.
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    I try by all means to teach them how to earn a living
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    rather than to be entitled,
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    because that is what is happening with
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    most of our people in this country.
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    Democratic elections ended apartheid in 1994.
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    But poverty has continued to be an enduring problem ever since.
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    The country’s unemployment rate of 30% is the highest in the world.
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    That means 24 million adults there are barely surviving.
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    At the same time, roughly one-third of the total number of millionaires
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    on the African continent live in South Africa.
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    If I don't have the money to go to the launderette,
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    I can get three buses down to my mum's place in South London
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    and use my mum's washing machine,
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    which is probably annoying for my mother but helpful for my me.
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    How are you coping?
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    I’m alright.
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    Thank you.
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    Good to see you.
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    I have blamed myself before, but then I found out,
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    there is no point blaming myself, because I’m still trying.
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    I'm looking to get into government paid, um, HGV training and license.
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    Oh, really?
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    It would be, driving along.
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    It is something you are good at.
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    I still want to become employed.
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    I want to work.
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    It is very difficult
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    because I need to earn enough money
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    because don’t want to work and then I have to spend
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    90% of my wages on rent and I only have a tiny bit left to live by.
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    How much is your room?
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    238 Pounds a week
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    A week?
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    A week.
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    You could fit in this room about ten of the rooms that I live in.
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    It is tiny.
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    I live in a house, um, which is, um, a three bedroom house,
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    but it’s been made into, um, seven different rooms,
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    seven separate rooms for people to live.
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    And the room that I live in is around about 12 foot by eight foot.
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    Within that, I could fit my double bed.
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    In one corner there is a lavatory, which is very small.
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    There's an attached kitchen, which I can't use
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    because there's no windows or ventilation in there.
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    And within the kitchen is where my shower is
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    and it is all paid for by the housing benefits,
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    which is lucky for me definitely.
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    Since the 1980s, when those in publicly owned council homes
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    were allowed to buy them outright,
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    Britain’s housing system has become increasingly unbalanced,
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    leading to the housing crisis seen today.
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    More and more people who would be eligible for social housing
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    are stuck privately renting unaffordable, poor-quality homes.
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    As private rental prices continue to grow at a record high rate in Britain,
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    many tenants’ rents are subsidized by housing benefits
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    going to private landlords, costing the government £23.5bn per year
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    almost twice as much as it invests in affordable housing.
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    I started off living a very conventional life.
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    I was a debutante,
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    which in those days meant that you
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    were supposed to marry into park gates,
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    as it were.
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    You were taught everything from how to run a household,
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    how to even make a bed properly.
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    You had to have corners.
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    To this day I do corners for the bed.
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    Having done the season, I didn't want to get married.
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    So having run away from home,
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    I went to Portugal and I opened the first discotheque nightclub
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    in the Algarve.
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    It was big news.
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    And so on the opening night, believe it or not, without an airport,
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    600 people came.
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    Paul McCartney could come and nobody bothered him.
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    It was an extraordinary time.
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    I was always arranging parties for these seriously highfliers
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    like Richard Branson, Dame Shirley Bassey, Ivana Trump.
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    What I really value and appreciate about mum.
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    She will just against all odds, make things happen.
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    She works harder than anyone I've ever met.
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    And she's the sort of person who goes into a room
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    and everything's kind of broken and chaotic and you say,
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    How the *** is this going to work?
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    And then by half an hour later,
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    there's this incredible thing that she’s created.
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    What's very noticeable is especially at the moment.
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    There are people who are in this country
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    who have got a lot more than people who've worked
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    very, very hard all their life.
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    And what is unfair is a lot of them are not really honoring
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    that position and paying the taxes because they're offshore.
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    They're able to have the advice to be able to keep their money,
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    to keep their super yachts, even though on paper they may be bankrupt.
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    But there they are in the south of France,
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    on their yachts and and laughing…
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    Are we in China-Town?
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    I haven’t been here for ages.
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    Extreme wealth and extreme poverty have seen a sharp simultaneous
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    increase for the first time in 25 years.
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    In Britain the richest 1% hold more wealth than 70% of the population.
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    Such severe inequality is estimated to cost
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    the UK £106.2 billion pounds a year in damage to the economy,
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    people, and their communities.
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    In South Africa, weekly protests rooted in poverty and joblessness
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    are the norm.
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    The country also experiences exceptionally high rates of murder,
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    gender-based violence, robbery, and violent conflict.
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    I've always perceived, um,
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    rich people as arrogant people and somehow I've been right
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    because majority of the ones I know, they are arrogant
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    and they are miserable.
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    I don´t wish to be rich.
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    I just wish to be employed.
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    Give me a job that will allow me to live my comfortable life.
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    That's it.
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    My dream is actually nothing else than getting a home,
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    a house that maybe I could say it’s a home for my kids.
  • 00:24:46
    And then if I can just get a stand where I could build
  • 00:24:49
    a 2 or 3 room shack.
  • 00:24:56
    I want when I leave this earth my kids to know,
  • 00:24:59
    our mother built this for us so they will be safe there.
  • 00:25:09
    I think I start with one shack at a time until I reach the 3 shacks.
  • 00:25:45
    If I'm going to my volunteer work,
  • 00:25:47
    I like to go to Sainsbury's close to me, buy a nice cake,
  • 00:25:52
    a big cake so I can take it along there so they can serve it
  • 00:25:56
    for other people, other customers.
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    who's turning up there.
  • 00:25:59
    I think it's a good thing to help.
  • 00:26:10
    I brought you a cake.
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    What cake, did you bring?
  • 00:26:17
    Madeira Party Cake.
  • 00:26:20
    On two days during the week,
  • 00:26:22
    I do voluntary work at a cafe called Second Chance Cafe.
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    You can go there you can pay what you feel.
  • 00:26:32
    If you have nothing, you do not have to pay.
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    But you can pay a small amount or a large amount
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    to go towards the charity there.
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    We're open to everybody, so we get a lot of people.
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    Coming from the food bank so they can pick up food there
  • 00:26:51
    and then come over here and have a hot meal or vice versa.
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    So there's a lot of people from the food bank,
  • 00:26:56
    but then there's just people in general from the neighborhood.
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    So that's the whole idea is that you get all sorts of people
  • 00:27:02
    coming together to chat and share a meal together
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    for normally wouldn't get to do this.
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    Here you go.
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    Who’s the green and red. There you go, sir.
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    It cannot be that the rich will always be richer forever.
  • 00:27:37
    One day, there's gonna be a revolution in this country
  • 00:27:41
    that no one will be able to stand if things keep on going
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    the way they are going.
  • 00:27:47
    People now all want to be the same.
  • 00:27:49
    They all want to be on a level, which can't happen.
  • 00:27:54
    I really want to be helpful, useful and have a point.
  • 00:28:00
    You’ve got to make it happen.
  • 00:28:01
    Nobody else is going to make it happen for you.
  • 00:28:04
    That’s up to you!
  • 00:28:17
    I hope my answers were okay?
Tags
  • capitalism
  • poverty
  • inequality
  • South Africa
  • UK
  • housing crisis
  • food banks
  • employment
  • economy
  • society