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as many of you guys know and let me know
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on Discord stylist Studios actually
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responded to my video which is pretty
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admirable that they did respond this
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quickly however the response is uh not
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the best before I respond to this
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response let me just get a few things
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out of the way first number one a lot of
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people have been asking me if they can
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make a video about this yes please make
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a video about this if you have more to
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add to this or if you just want to
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report on it I I don't care both of
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those are great you can use Clips are in
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the video I'm not going to take down the
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video as you guys could probably tell
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from the video I I'm not too happy with
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um what found when I investigated
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stylist number two I've gotten probably
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250 different DMS with even more stuff
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so I probably will have to make a part
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two I really hope somebody like Ruben
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Sim makes a video about this because I'm
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just one person that did an
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investigation and this is so much stuff
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to go through it's ridiculous number
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three the cry person which was the first
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stylus mod I actually looked at the
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messages from I found a bunch of really
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bad messages from him he actually dm'd
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me on Discord he was 13 years old when
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he sent those messages he was talking
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with an 18-year-old about those topics
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and yes that just makes stylist look
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even worse the last thing before I start
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going into this the C person who was
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banned alongside Willow was actually one
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of the people who was by Willow and they
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banned this individual for quote being a
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victim they banned both of them and they
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put them together they put theer and the
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victim in the same announcement and said
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we're Banning these people for their
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behavior of course a lot of people
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thought that the Cali person was also a
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groer when actually they were the one
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being groom this Al led to probably one
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of the worst mod messages I've seen on
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PF and I've seen a lot in this Discord
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there are a lot of bad ones people made
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it a speech bubble gift on Discord uh
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you can see it right now that's what he
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said oh yeah let's just get into this
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response and uh go through what they
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said it says greetings everyone it has
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been a colorful Journey this evening for
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us as you all know Strider has posted a
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video with some serious allegations
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against our studio with a very
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compelling narrative I honestly thought
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the video turned out pretty bad but a
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bunch of access messages got leaked they
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started deleting everything and going
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into damage control before I even posted
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the video so I had to rush the video
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completely out before you know they
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started shutting down everything given
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his status is a former Cc or content
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creator and his past contributions to
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our game we are happy to provide a
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response for the community and address
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his concerns on behalf of stylist I do
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like how they said I had contributions
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to the game if you guys didn't know I
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basically used to look at all the
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updates and then give them feedback and
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stuff like that I also had DMS with
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every contractor except for M I never
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had any DMS with M which is is lucky and
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we'll get into more Mar stuff in a bit
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don't worry about that this part where
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they say from a glance I don't what do
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they mean bro did they watch the video
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or did they glance at the video in the
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content creator chat Leo who is one of
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the main pfds was asking people for like
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a summary of the video instead of just
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watching the video which is great if you
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make a game and people are calling out
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your game to not even watch the video
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calling them out anyway there are
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multiple allegations pertaining to
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members within our community to our
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staff members and contractors and
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leading up lastly to one of our lead
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developers the video begins with a
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twitch streamer named Bella the bat Pony
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blah blah blah basically for this one
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they say the admin failed to act and ban
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that individual for a year and then they
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said we are not involved with the
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content creator team they are not
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involved with Banning people so for this
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one they are claiming negligence they
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had no idea guys they made this Discord
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for their Community for their kids game
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but you know they don't really have to
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look at it at all personally I've never
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even heard of the individual until after
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watching this video I think this was
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made by Leo and if this is true that's
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that's pretty bad that was a 19-year-old
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talking to a 13-year-old the claim that
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this oversight is indicative of
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questionable behavior on the developers
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is frankly unfounded I think the fact
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that they don't know would also be
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pretty questionable but this one in
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particular wasn't supposed to indict the
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Developers for anything this one was
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just to make a timeline I actually had
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one before this that I cut from the
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video because it had even less to do
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with the developers because this video
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actually just started as a just scandals
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of PF thing that was basically just to
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talk about the scandals that have
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happened with this game and the content
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creators because basically nobody had
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has made a video like that before I just
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wanted to post that video Just to let
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people know what had happened and just
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give people information on why certain
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people had left because of course the
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devs hadn't given information to anybody
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about what had happened to all those
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content creators so it didn't start out
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as a PF devs exposed video but then I
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looked into it and I uh yeah I turned
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into that because that's what I found
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next the claim is that there were skins
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pertaining to the content creator case
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that were not removed for years despite
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containing skins of known Predators this
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is true similarly this issue did not
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surface the developer attention right
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away and there was a lack of internal
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systems in place to rapidly replace
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skins without any existing data
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modification tooling that we have today
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as such we have likely assigned a lower
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priority to this issue while bugs and
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exploits drew our constant
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Focus that okay I think removing a skin
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from a 19-year-old that talk to a
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13-year-old is probably a good idea
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especially if you're not going to tell
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people why those individuals got banned
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and they still have social media up so
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people could go and find them especially
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if they are under the age of 18 again
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this claimed that our negligence to
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remove these skins in a timely manner
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constitutes developer support for
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predatory behavior is baseless and Akin
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to outright defamation I don't think I
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said this in the video I'm pretty sure I
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just said they didn't remove the skins
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and if that looks bad for the developers
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that's not my problem I just said what
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they did which they just acknowledged
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what they did and yeah it looks bad
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because it's it's a bad look basically
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they said bugs are more important than
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removing the skins and yeah I thought it
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was weird that they didn't remove the
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Skins which is why I brought it up in
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the video it's a thing they did a
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similar situation happened today we
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would be much better equipped to process
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the removal due to framework
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improvements we have made in the last
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couple years next the topic of Juke is
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brought up later known to be one of the
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most serious offenders in both bad
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business and Phantom Forces says
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Community I don't know if he was one of
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the most serious offenders in bad
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business because they banned him from
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Bad Business after the first thing he
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did so I would probably just give it
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over to Phantom Forces for this one
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video primarily summarizes juke's
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offenses in a roundabout manner however
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it makes a false claim that after juk
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was exposed and removed by Bad Business
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Developers for sending inappropriate
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messages to miners he quote quickly
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became a phantom Force's content creator
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afterwards because he was friends with
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axis angle this entire response kind of
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feels like it's chat GPT and this also
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would be if they just read the
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transcript of the video I had to rush
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out this video and I did put something
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on screen that said he was actually one
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before I didn't know that he was already
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a PF content creator but then during
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editing I realized oh wait he already
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was so I did put something on screen
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I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
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and say they just missed that but to
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clarify juke's infractions were made
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known to us by bad business's developers
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while he was already an existing PF
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content creator this is true but neither
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team realized the extent of juke's
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predatory behaviors right away yes but
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Bad Business took the things he had
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already done and realized that it was
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already enough to ban if you go back to
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the first Jack's video that was plenty
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of stuff to get him removed from any
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community in general much less a
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children's game our initial
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interpretation was that he was removed
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for sending inappropriate messages ding
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ding ding that is true and we assumed
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that his disciplinary action had already
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been handled within the bad business
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Community he sent inappropriate messages
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to kids on Roblox I think you can ban
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him from every Community after that Juke
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later confided to us of his disciplinary
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action from Bad Business and wish to
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start a new in Phantom Forces this part
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was really interesting cuz I thought he
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was already a content creator for
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Phantom Forces which is true he was but
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but then he basically became a full Bad
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Business one and then he essentially
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moved back to Phantom Forces after he
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was kicked for talking to kids then they
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say presumably Having learned his lesson
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presumably Having learned his lesson he
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essentially talked axis into keeping him
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in the content creator program and
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letting him play PF which turned out to
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be pretty bad idea not going to lie
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remember guys if you talk to kids only a
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couple of times you probably will never
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do it again as we were unaware of any
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infractions he had committed in the
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Phantom Forces Discord itself if you do
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it in DMS if you do it in a different
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Discord you're fine to talk to kids but
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just don't do it in ours just kidding
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you can do it in RS cuz I talked about
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that in the video dude we were to keep
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an eye on his behavior to see if his
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removal from Bad Business was sufficient
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or if we needed to take action on our
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end therefore delaying actions to remove
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him until further notice we now know
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that it turned out to be well beyond the
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scope after Jax's video revealed more
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information than we were initially
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provided once we realized the extent of
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his actions axis angle made the decision
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to remove him immediately with that I
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firmly believe we have acted in best
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faith to the knowledge provided to us at
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the time Striders claimed that we were
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harboring Juke knowingly while he was a
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is therefore unwarranted axis angles in
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his apology is going to be talking about
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Juke a little bit but yeah the fact that
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Juke confided the messages told the
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Phantom Forces developers what Juke had
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done yes they didn't know the full
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extent but the full extent is is really
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bad what they already had was plenty of
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course what happened after is even wor
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worse so yeah the fact that stylist kept
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Juke on their content creator program
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after the bad business developers
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contacted them about it is very bad on
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its own but the problem is literally
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everything else stacked on top of it
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right this one event on its own wasn't
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enough for me to you know condemn the
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developers when this happened I thought
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it was really bad what they had done but
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I didn't go out and make a video about
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all of stylus because I didn't realize
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how much of an issue this had been but
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anyway next attention is brought to how
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one of our former moderators for having
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sent unsavory messages to miners dating
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back in 2018 this user has left on his
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own accord after these messages have
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been exposed in a Google do as such we
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are unable to pursue any further
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disciplinary action against the
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individual oh my gosh they did not they
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did not read they did not watch the
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video they did not watch the video
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spirals had a very long conversation
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with Leo about this guy in which Leo
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essentially just did nothing the whole
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time and now that this guy was getting a
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lot of different uh me messages about
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the whole situation because he was
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talking to a minor in 2018 he left of
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his own accord but Leto had plenty of
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time to do something about it basically
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spirals exposed Hal to Leo Leto said eh
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I'm not doing anything about this and
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then Hal left and now he's saying well
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he left so I couldn't do anything about
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it yes you could you could this is
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probably my favorite part of this whole
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thing the summary is rather brief but
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the concern raised in the video is that
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these messages still exist in the
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records of the public channels the
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resulting conclusion appears to be that
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we need to clean up these channels so
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that younger members cannot search for
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or stumble onto these inappropriate
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messages we agree with this and
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therefore we instructed our staff to
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purge the history of our eight plus
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year-old public channels to ensure our
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young members would not encounter these
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messages which however contradicts with
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strider's later talking points of cover
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up basically they put words in my mouth
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here this is not what I said and they
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said that we totally agree with what you
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didn't say we're actually not covering
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up anything which I'll talk a lot more
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about a cover up in my next video no I
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did not say that the public channels
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should be deleted in fact they were
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deleted before I even made the video
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because if you guys remember in my last
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video I talked about the fact that
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somebody leaked some of uh access angle
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old messages that didn't look too good
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for him so they deleted every single
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Channel now they're saying we actually
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instructed our staff to delete these
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channels because of this video because
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of this argument in this video that I
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didn't make as an aside there was a
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passing claim that our Discord lacked
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age verification and failed to ban users
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under 13 I love how they say this is a
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passing claim like this is just
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something that I mentioned for one
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second well I guess it kind of was I
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didn't mention it for that long but I
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think it's more than a passing claim I
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think it's a pretty big thing they say
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they fail to ban users under 13 what I
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got from the mod that I dm'd was not
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that they fail to ban users under 13 is
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that they don't even try thus leading to
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opportunities for miners to be taken
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advantage of we acknowledge that this is
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an issue that deserves more attention
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and we will review with the staff team
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on what can be done to better protect
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our community members they are now
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acknowledging this is a problem but then
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they completely pretend that this was my
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claim this was not my passing claim this
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was not my claim I DMD one of the admins
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hey what do you guys do about people
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under 13 and he said they don't even try
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to ban them this part is also very funny
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the video moves to former mmaker wolf
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dogs summarizing the inappropriate
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messages and photos he has sent to
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miners early on we received numerous
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reports with screenshots regarding these
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inappropriate messages however we were
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unable to immediately verify through
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Discord whether the submitted
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screenshots were legitimate or
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fabricated we have also been informed
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that there were many users who seek to
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Witch Hunt this user so we had
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conflicting information we decided we
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needed more time before making any
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conclusions regarding the reports later
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on our admin team discovered further
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evidence that these reports including
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evidence of the elicit photos were
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verified to be true we immediately
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ceased ties with wolf dogs and reported
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the issue directly to Discord let me
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guess uh Discord didn't do anything we
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decided that if legal action was
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required with authorities Discord
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themselves would be able to escalate the
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case as necessary this is a community of
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people they need to actually be informed
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on what is going on with this we
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consider the issue to be resolved and
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did not make any public announcements to
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avoid drawing attention from intrigued
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community members who may seek out these
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illicit photos themselves to spread
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around for amusement so remember guys
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this is the Predator we are talking
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about we need to make sure that he
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doesn't get embarrassed from people
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spreading photos of him they didn't tell
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people that this guy was talking to kids
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because they wanted to protect his
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photos are you kid dude do I even need
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to explain why that's just Mar
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inaccurately described as a fourth
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developer I think I said he's number
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four like the fourth most important
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developer on the game and yes
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technically he isn't a developer he was
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a contractor but in terms of the
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hierarchy and the people working at
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stylist he was number four I don't think
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you guys can argue that he wasn't number
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four so they're saying I inaccurately
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described him as a fourth developer I
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think I said he was the fourth most
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important and they're saying oh this is
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not the definition of a developer I
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meant is the fourth most important
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person working on the game if he's not
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technically a developer he's technically
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a contractor I guess you can use that to
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say this claim is completely false was
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one of our former contractors hired to
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manage content updates during a time
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when the lead developers myself were
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busy with college so he was doing a lot
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of this stuff during that time the video
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summarizes the strings of his
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inappropriate messaging conduct uh
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conduct sorry with Miners and the timing
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of his announcements to quit suddenly
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when we perceived reports of these our
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initial perception was that it was the
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start of another attempted WI hunt it's
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funny that the two people that have been
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uh quote unquote witch hunted uh
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actually talked to miners due to Mar's
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wavering reputation among certain
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community members he was pretty hated
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though he was pretty hated though I
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remember a lot of people didn't like him
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nonetheless we took the allegation
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seriously and we asked him to step down
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out of respect while we reviewed the
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reports basically for Juke they left him
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as a content creator and presumed he
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learned his lesson the guy who actually
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was confirmed to talk to kids he's
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allowed to stay on but Mah who was very
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hated and people could have
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realistically faked these screenshots he
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had to step down but Juke didn't which
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is bad because the M thing happened
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before Juke so for Mah they made him
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step down and then for Juke they kept
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him on it's like they got worse at it in
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what world would you have him step down
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if you didn't believe it was true but
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then for the guy where it actually
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happened you didn't it doesn't make any
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sense as the evidence turned out to be
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validated his voluntary resignation
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transformed into a permanent dismissal
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from our team are you sure about that
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actually are you sure about that
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actually however we determined his
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overall fractions were not on the same
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level as Juke and so this was deemed
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sufficiently handled an additional
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announcement for his further departure
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seemed unnecessary remember guys this is
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the number four guy goes Leo Axis
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shin7 or whatever his name is and then
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it went Mah Mah was number four you
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can't argue on that he was the number
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four guy in fact from their own
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statements in this he was essentially
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the number one guy on the game during
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this but when he talks to miners in the
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server where he is making a game which
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also happens to be a kids game you don't
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have to announce it you you guys don't
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actually have to announce it it's
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actually perfectly fine because yes his
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Discord is still around his Twitter is
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still around all of his stuff is still
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there especially the not safe for work
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accounts he has are still around and you
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didn't tell anybody that he likes kids
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in hindsight this was an unsatisfactory
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response for the community and we
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acknowledge that inadequacy in our
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thought process okay on their own each
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of these are very weird and I would be
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like what what are these guys doing but
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when you put together every single one
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yeah it's a consistent Behavior with
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these people Willow the next contractor
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to replace m is later found with similar
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reports of inappropriate messaging
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Behavior with miners summary of how the
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reports were handled is presented
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leading up to a public firing of Willow
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based on additional evidence that was
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later discovered to unveil the true
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severity of their infractions they were
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pretty bad I saw some of the things
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shrider concludes here that stylist has
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learned their lesson in making a public
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announcement this time compared to the
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previous cases however Strider
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immediately follows up to make a highly
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accused and fabricated claim that sid9
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is secretly Willow using an ALT account
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for sid9 who I have spent countless
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hours training to onboard into the PF
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content pipeline systems on such short
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notice this is outright insulting to the
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team we chose sid9 a close mutual friend
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among the leay developers with blah blah
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blah blah of ill intentions and we hope
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that the community would continue to
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respect his dedication and keeping
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Phantom Force's content ongoing I will
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say that the willow thing is the only
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thing I was like maybe it's not true
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which why I said allegedly the fact that
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between the days when axis said that
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Willow was stepping down with the
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ability to come back and permanently
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stepping down the sid9 account was
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created and said I'm going to be the
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next contractor is super weird remember
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they said that they were going to become
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a contractor before the extra things
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about Willow came out so this is sid9
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being created on a day where Willow
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could still come back to the game and
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then immediately saying oh I want to be
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a contractor someday is that not
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suspicious also the person that told me
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this is somebody who I hope will come
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forward because I do trust that they
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would know things like this they were a
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person that had a lot of community
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connections but unfortunately that
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person has not come forward I really
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hope they will you can see this is the
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thing that proves that my video is bad
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the only problem is let's go back up to
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Mar okay we took the allegation
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seriously and we asked him to step down
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out of respect remember that was on
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April Fool's Day 2021 however apparently
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in October of 2021 had a conversation
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with Shayan 007 which is the third main
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develop as I said about the fact that
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Mah could maybe be working on the game
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still and after pushing Shay enough he
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said he's in the process of onboarding
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new developers so 6 months after they
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had him stepped down he was still
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working on the game this isn't Willow
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we're talking about this is mar however
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the willow thing happened after Mar so
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if they let Mar stay around for that
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long they're probably going to let
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Willow stay a little bit after as well
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and they both do not deserve to be
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getting paid to work on a children's
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game after they got fired after they
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were exposed it can happen with one and
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so it can probably happen with the other
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and before I was about to start
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recording this video I actually got
00:19:06
another Smoking Gun about this which is
00:19:08
that oh my gosh I cannot believe this
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happened in 2022 I think February corny
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uploaded a video about the shotguns
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getting nerfed in Phantom Forces Corney
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used to be a Phantom Forces YouTuber now
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he just a Roblox YouTuber the reason
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that he knew about this update was that
00:19:22
guess who dm'd him about it it was mar
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mar sent me a nice little DM he said
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just want to let you know if something
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you might be interested in test place is
00:19:30
finally out after much delay or whatever
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remember guys this is February 2022 10
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months later so yeah well I can't prove
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that Willow was still working on the
00:19:40
game I think M was still working on the
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game because the devs actually said this
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further in the video srider chooses out
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of context clips of axis's stream to
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imply that axis must be feeling some
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sort of PR guilt with these unprompted
00:19:52
statements on stream going as far as to
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make connections to juke's actions I
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just said is he a Juke type individual
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I don't know and then I put maybe on the
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screen because of what happened after
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this editing Choice comes across as
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highly disingenuous and malicious and
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openly threatening and I don't think
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this is highly disingenuous or malicious
00:20:10
to say maybe we'll get into that we'll
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get into that I can't believe this dude
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I can't believe it yeah cuz we'll get
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into this and finally Strider makes the
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claim that stylist has chosen to cover
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up all of its behaviors and private
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chats particularly pretending to access
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angles chat records back in 2016 which
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they did as of a few days ago multiple
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users have coincidentally reported these
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messages to us and presented their
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concerns to us regarding the hazards of
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a top developer having made such
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messages the blah blah blah they further
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recommended that we take action
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immediately to purge these messages so
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that our younger community members would
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not be able to chance upon them upon
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review we agreed with this decision to
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replace all of our public channels as
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suggested by the user report Strider
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however claims this is an act of
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covering up evidence of wrongdoing which
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we firmly refute with our motivation
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stated here except that now you can't
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see any of the bad messages any of the
00:21:00
mods and developers have made oh my gosh
00:21:03
it's such a coincidence that you can't
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see any of them anymore what the freak
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oh no there's even more access messages
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like this one uh which was in 2018 which
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is he was 22 but man if there were more
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of them I mean dude it's so unlucky that
00:21:17
you guys can't find it anymore oh no as
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for Access angle chat Behavior they were
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Unbecoming for a lead developer involved
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sensitive topics that do not abide by
00:21:25
our Discord guidelines today we would
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however point out that the message it
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was sent is dark
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satire import during an age of
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immaturity immaturity at the age of 20
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years old once again these statements
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are super weird and happened on multiple
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different occasions same with the twitch
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thing I saw the twitch Clips months and
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months ago but I didn't immediately jump
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and make a video because none of it had
00:21:47
clicked yet you know what I mean most of
00:21:49
the things from this video I learned in
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the past couple of weeks just by
00:21:52
investigating and I do believe that
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these messages could have been dark
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satire like really really bad jokes it
00:21:58
was 16 you know he was 20 years old and
00:22:00
joking about that stuff still pretty
00:22:02
it's still really bad it's the fact that
00:22:04
these guys are essentially just
00:22:05
admitting to everything I talked about
00:22:07
in the video they refute two things
00:22:09
which is the willow thing and then they
00:22:10
come up with like a couple random things
00:22:12
that I said wrong in the video but
00:22:14
everything else they've said my bad my
00:22:16
bad we should have we should have maybe
00:22:18
probably maybe announced this and like I
00:22:20
said one of those things on its own is
00:22:22
still weird but it's not enough for me
00:22:23
to turn on this game make this video but
00:22:26
it's everything that I found and I found
00:22:28
so many things nonetheless our studio
00:22:29
will continue to evaluate if action is
00:22:32
needed against axis angle depending on
00:22:34
whether further reports of victims
00:22:35
involved due to his behavior will
00:22:37
surface to us oh my gosh I think these
00:22:40
people live in the same house with each
00:22:42
other by the way I think they do I I
00:22:44
can't remember them but guys they
00:22:45
wouldn't even know if axis angles has
00:22:47
done anything before please nobody come
00:22:49
up with anything or else we're going to
00:22:50
have to fire him until then we currently
00:22:52
stand by our conviction that none of
00:22:53
these statements alone indicate the axis
00:22:55
angle yeah none of these statements
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alone I agree with that none of these
00:22:58
statements alone indicate that axis
00:23:00
angle or any of the lead developers
00:23:02
myself or Shay are in support a behavior
00:23:04
against minors to continue baseless
00:23:06
claims with these as evidence would be
00:23:08
considered acts of defamation against
00:23:09
their team is this supposed to be like A
00:23:11
Veiled Threat of a defamation lawsuit
00:23:13
there is no way you can say this is
00:23:15
defamation you guys just admitted to
00:23:16
everything in this video basically and
00:23:18
for the one thing that I don't know
00:23:20
which is the willow thing I got that
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information from a different person and
00:23:23
also said allegedly because that was the
00:23:24
one thing I didn't really know like I
00:23:26
said none of these statements alone
00:23:27
indicate any of these things however
00:23:30
together I do think that they do
00:23:32
indicate something but it does show that
00:23:34
they do not care what happens to people
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as long as they're not really impacted
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they have continued to sweep this under
00:23:40
the rug which is why this video
00:23:42
completely blew up the community because
00:23:43
pretty much everybody underneath the
00:23:45
surface has been thinking about these
00:23:47
things and it really just took somebody
00:23:49
to connect the dots and realize that
00:23:51
this is not something that should be
00:23:53
happening on a Roblox game or any game
00:23:55
in general to be honest ultimately my
00:23:57
goal is to provide great games that our
00:23:59
community can enjoy we have a lot to
00:24:01
learn and improve with how we handle our
00:24:02
community but we will continue to make
00:24:04
our best effort with our staff and core
00:24:06
development team dude this is sad it
00:24:09
would be so easy it's like Roblox the
00:24:11
same thing with Ruben Sim where you have
00:24:13
people that are trying to help you get
00:24:15
these people out of your community but
00:24:17
you seem to essentially be doing not
00:24:19
just nothing but you essentially seem to
00:24:21
be pushing back against it it's so weird
00:24:24
but before we get to all the other
00:24:25
statements let's get into the first axis
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angles apolog okay cuz this is a really
00:24:30
important apology to talk about as you
00:24:31
guys probably know from the first video
00:24:33
the day before I uploaded that video a
00:24:35
bunch of axis angles old messages got
00:24:37
leaked and this was axis angle's apology
00:24:39
for that because he really does care
00:24:40
about his apology guys and this one is
00:24:42
sh lauff saying this morning we received
00:24:45
multiple reports regarding edgy jokes
00:24:47
made in the server back in 2016 we don't
00:24:49
personally subscribe to the comment
00:24:50
jokes made when reviewing the evidence
00:24:53
we came to the conclusion that almost
00:24:54
all the server messages at that time
00:24:56
required some level of action on our
00:24:58
part acknowledging this we decided to
00:24:59
arcave all channels created before 2018
00:25:02
the server started as a community that
00:25:04
didn't take itself seriously and with
00:25:05
that our server rules policies and
00:25:07
channels reflected that when the server
00:25:09
became partnered and linked to Phantom
00:25:10
Forces all of that changed hopefully
00:25:13
people understand why we arive chats
00:25:15
going through two years of very active
00:25:17
chat messages in multiple channels just
00:25:19
didn't seem feasible wait I thought this
00:25:20
was about axis angles messages why is it
00:25:23
written by a different person and it
00:25:25
doesn't mention him and he doesn't
00:25:26
apologize that's because this was the
00:25:28
day that the access messages got leaked
00:25:30
but because I didn't upload my video
00:25:33
these people weren't pressured to do
00:25:34
anything which is why they were going to
00:25:35
sweep it under the rug again dude it's
00:25:37
so silly that it's been 3 days as of
00:25:39
uploading this video since they wrote
00:25:41
this message and in their response
00:25:42
they're trying to pretend they don't
00:25:44
sweep things under the rug even though
00:25:46
when axis made these messages they shut
00:25:48
down the Discord and then posted this
00:25:51
instead of him apologizing it's
00:25:54
ridiculous unless I uploaded this video
00:25:57
nothing would happen happened this is
00:25:58
why I uploaded the video now we have the
00:26:00
axis angle apology and it has some good
00:26:02
in it it says I have several major
00:26:04
regrets I am embarrassed by my conduct
00:26:06
in the early days of the Discord and how
00:26:08
my actions normalized misbehavior and
00:26:10
put adult topics in a place accessible
00:26:12
to miners these unnuanced provocative
00:26:14
takes and vulgar jokes were not right
00:26:15
for me to make for that I am sorry which
00:26:18
if this was the only thing that he did
00:26:20
and there's even more stuff that people
00:26:22
have found and dm'd me about but if this
00:26:23
was the only thing he did I would be
00:26:25
like that is so weird but I think if he
00:26:27
made an apology it would have been fine
00:26:29
but the problem is he had the
00:26:31
opportunity to make an apology but when
00:26:33
people found his messages instead he had
00:26:36
a different person make a statement that
00:26:39
didn't even mention him and it's really
00:26:41
sad because a lot of people have been
00:26:42
throwing so much stuff at axis angle and
00:26:45
it's really sad because I I did not
00:26:47
think that axis angle would would do
00:26:50
that he said he failed to protect our
00:26:52
community from Juke I failed to gain an
00:26:54
understanding of what he really was
00:26:55
allowing him to keep making content
00:26:57
which is great that he responded to this
00:26:59
and like I said this would have been a
00:27:01
good response to this if this was the
00:27:04
only thing that happened and this is not
00:27:05
the only thing that happen that's the
00:27:07
problem I want to address some claims in
00:27:08
the video there are accusations that
00:27:10
sid9 is actually Willow sid9 is not
00:27:13
Willow please do not harass him when I
00:27:14
said that we may rehire Willow this was
00:27:17
after we removed her but before real
00:27:19
evidence came through the first claims
00:27:21
to come out against Willow while not
00:27:22
Savory were not illegal and seemed
00:27:24
politically motivated there was a lot of
00:27:26
nuance here the day after the fact more
00:27:27
people came out this time with
00:27:29
legitimate claims against Willow which
00:27:31
we immediately acted on I was never
00:27:32
juke's friends my first real
00:27:34
interactions just after I learned of him
00:27:36
occurred at Midwest furfest when he
00:27:39
asked if we could meet up for dinner it
00:27:40
was the most awkward set of interactions
00:27:42
I've ever had he manipulated another
00:27:44
person into giving him money so he could
00:27:45
buy me something then tried to
00:27:47
manipulate me into being his boyfriend
00:27:49
after drinking a whole bottle of my wine
00:27:51
but at least in 2021 you were like 26 at
00:27:54
the time I didn't see this as
00:27:56
manipulation but what he didn't Juke
00:27:59
would tell a Sab story get you to feel
00:28:00
sorry for him then turn around and
00:28:02
whatever lenience you gave him it was
00:28:04
like he could not stop himself from
00:28:05
taking the worst possible action at
00:28:07
every opportunity my takeaway is that I
00:28:09
got a small taste of what it's like to
00:28:11
be one of juke's victims unfortunately
00:28:13
the reason why I was on stream talking
00:28:14
about different levels of infraction and
00:28:16
harm is because ironically cancel
00:28:19
culture makes no room for nuance for me
00:28:21
cancel culture just means you said
00:28:23
something bad back in 2016 this is a
00:28:25
little bit different than what I would
00:28:27
normally think I would normally think of
00:28:29
um just a off-color joke and yeah the
00:28:31
things that he said in 2016 were pretty
00:28:33
bad they were in a kids server but it's
00:28:35
everything else that's the problem I
00:28:37
wasn't even going to put those
00:28:38
screenshots in the video until I
00:28:41
realized that he was 20 when he said
00:28:42
that because I understand that people
00:28:43
make really weird jokes but to be 20
00:28:46
years old in a kids game server that you
00:28:48
own saying those things and then doing
00:28:50
everything else dude come on man but
00:28:53
maybe my position as a privileged male
00:28:55
allows me the Comfort to consider more
00:28:57
nuanced takes unfortunate what I don't
00:28:59
know what that mean unfortunately I feel
00:29:01
my presumption that people are not out
00:29:03
to cause harm actually in turn makes
00:29:05
room for those people to perpetuate it
00:29:07
maybe Juke is not the exception but a
00:29:10
norm okay is he talking about me saying
00:29:12
I am out to cause har and cancel culture
00:29:15
or whatever absolutely not the case
00:29:17
because I actually liked this game I'll
00:29:20
probably go into that in part two but I
00:29:23
dude I did not I did not want to have to
00:29:26
make the video that I did did we have
00:29:29
always given second chances at stylist
00:29:31
this is probably a mistake in many in
00:29:33
many cases I've already taken major
00:29:35
steps to prevent Juke and Willow like
00:29:36
cases we will formally discuss policy
00:29:38
changes with staff to better address the
00:29:40
future the problem with this is that
00:29:42
this did not happen after Juke this did
00:29:45
not happen after Willow this did not
00:29:48
happen even after axis was exposed this
00:29:51
is after my video so the fact that these
00:29:53
people are saying that my video is
00:29:55
slanderous and is spreading a hateful
00:29:56
narrative and all this stuff but they
00:29:58
only only make changes when I made my
00:30:02
video can I does that it's just
00:30:05
ridiculous it's just ridiculous dude
00:30:08
this is so stupid I cannot believe that
00:30:11
they wait until my video and then
00:30:12
they're like well actually this video is
00:30:14
bad but actually going to maybe start
00:30:16
actually doing something about this
00:30:17
stuff they finally start to bring this
00:30:19
stuff up when I bring it to light and
00:30:21
then they say this video is actually
00:30:23
very bad and harmful but you will
00:30:25
continue to cover it up until I actually
00:30:28
talk about it it's ridiculous now this
00:30:29
is the most fun part of this okay
00:30:31
finally if anyone has evidence of me
00:30:34
victimizing or abusing them they can
00:30:36
make it public or report it to staff and
00:30:38
then we can deal with the
00:30:40
consequences C can you guys read that
00:30:42
again so he made an apology but there's
00:30:45
definitely something else going on here
00:30:47
how else are people supposed to take
00:30:49
that message if anyone has evidence you
00:30:51
should make a report and then we can
00:30:52
deal with the consequences if you didn't
00:30:55
do anything he wouldn't say this he
00:30:57
wouldn't say if he didn't do anything I
00:30:59
talked to Ruben Sim both of us could
00:31:00
agree that axis was weird I think this
00:31:02
game is harmful and um it's sad because
00:31:05
I really liked the game but I can't
00:31:07
really take this any other way I I think
00:31:09
that that yeah I don't know dude and
00:31:11
then AIS angle says we are working with
00:31:13
staff to assess what we will do moving
00:31:15
forward how much staff we will have left
00:31:17
and how to make changes to our policy to
00:31:19
provide a safe environment for the
00:31:21
community we will announce this action
00:31:23
plan in addition to some clarifying
00:31:25
statements in a follow-up response this
00:31:26
may take a while but probably doing here
00:31:29
is preparing to throw axess angles under
00:31:31
the bus and say that the other two
00:31:33
developers are fine and that they
00:31:35
weren't involved in anything and we can
00:31:38
just keep moving on am I clean are you
00:31:40
kidding me dude anyway this video has
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been very difficult to record um but
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yeah I hope I can explain why this
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response was not good uh yeah so you
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guys
