حوار | جاستن صن: لن أبيع البيتكوين حتى لو بلغت مليون دولار

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Summary

TLDRيتناول الفيديو حوارًا يركز على آراء وتحليلات متعلقة بعالم العملات الرقمية، مع تركيز خاص على البيتكوين على مدى السنوات الطويلة الماضية. يتحدث المتحدث عن استثماراته، وتجربته الشخصية في السوق، ورؤيته لكيفية تقدم التنظيمات تحت إدارة ترامب، وأهمية الابتكار مثل blockchain و AI لتحقيق الاستقرار والنمو في الصناعة. يبرز أيضًا تأثير السياسات العالمية على سوق العملات الرقمية وتوقعاته بشأن مستقبل الاستثمار في هذا القطاع.

Takeaways

  • 💰 التزام قوي بالبيتكوين، بغض النظر عن سعرها.
  • 🌍 توقعات إيجابية بشأن تنظيم العملات الرقمية تحت إدارة ترامب.
  • 🎨 قيمة الفن المفاهيمي، مثل شراء موزة بمبلغ 6.2 مليون دولار.
  • 🤖 تفاؤل حذر بشأن تأثير الذكاء الاصطناعي على سوق العملات الرقمية.
  • 📈 أهمية الابتكار لتحقيق نمو السوق.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    يتحدث المتحدث عن عدم وجود نية لبيع بيتكوين الخاص به، حيث يمتلك Bitcoin منذ قيمته كانت 10 سنتات ويشير إلى أن قيمة التقنية ستكون أكثر وضوحًا عندما تعتمد البنوك مثل هذه التقنيات. يشير أيضًا إلى شغفه بـ Charles، لكنه ينبه إلى المخاطر المحتملة لتأثير الذكاء الاصطناعي على سوق العملات المشفرة.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    ثم يلتقي المتحدث مع Justin Sun، حيث يتم تناول موضوع شراء ثمرة موز بقيمة 6.2 مليون دولار. يتحدث Justin عن تجربته في عالم جمع التحف الفنية والـ NFTs، موضحًا كيف أن فن الموز هو جزء من مجموعة أكبر من الأعمال الفنية التي جمعها.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    يستمر Justin في توضيح كيفية تشابه TRX مع XRP من حيث الخلفية والأسس، حيث يذكر تجاربه السابقة مع XRP. يشير إلى نجاح TRX في نقل مليارات الدولارات يوميًا خلال سنوات تطويره الثمانية ويكشف عن طموحهم لبناء شبكة التسوية.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    ثم يتناول Justin كيف أن القوانين الجديدة قد تعزز سوق العملات المشفرة في ظل حكم ترامب، ويشير إلى أنه يتوقع مزيدًا من التعديلات الإيجابية التي قد تساهم في العودة إلى الولايات المتحدة. ويؤكد على أهمية التوازن بين القطاع التقليدي وDeFi.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:11

    في النهاية، يُظهر Justin تفاؤله بشأن صعود سوق العملات المشفرة وانتشار استخدام الـ blockchain، وينوه إلى أن الخيارات المستقبلية ستفيد الجميع في الصناعة مع ظهور فترات جديدة من النمو والتطوير.

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Video Q&A

  • لماذا لا يخطط المتحدث لبيع بيتكوين؟

    لأنه يؤمن بقيمة البيتكوين ويعتقد أنه لا يوجد مجال أكثر إبداعًا من عملة البيتكوين.

  • ما تأثير AI على سوق العملات الرقمية؟

    يعتقد المتحدث أن AI ليس قويًا كما نعتقد وأنه يمكن ضبطه بالقوانين للحماية.

  • كيف تتوقع أن تتطور التنظيمات بعد تولي ترامب الرئاسة؟

    يأمل المتحدث في أن تساعد السياسات الجديدة ترامب في دفع نمو سوق العملات الرقمية.

  • ما هي دلالة شراء الموز بمبلغ 6.2 مليون دولار؟

    يعتبره تعبيرًا عن قيمة الفن المفاهيمي في عالم الرموز غير القابلة للاستبدال.

  • كيف يقيم المتحدث تنظيم سوق العملات الرقمية في الصين؟

    يرى أن الصين تتبنى تنظيمات صارمة، مما يدفع الأفراد للبحث عن بيئات أكثر ترحيبًا.

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    you mentioned that you will not sell
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    your Bitcoin I think $1 million I will
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    stay no matter what's the price I I
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    won't sell at all some of my friends
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    bought Bitcoin at 10 cents at that time
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    and I have never made this much of the
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    money in my whole life you know once the
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    banks adopt those technology Isis will
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    succeed my impression about Charles is
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    uh he is like a cowboy you know eii also
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    might affect the cryptocurrency market
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    in a very negative way so I think AI is
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    not as powerful as we think right now
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    are you optimistic about the regulations
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    after Donald Trump takes over the White
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    House one of the philosophies I think
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    president Trump doing is better than the
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    last administration his new policies
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    will drive lots of business back to
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    United States does it taste like the
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    $6.2 million
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    origin bcoin
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    the god of
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    bananas Mr Justins son thank you so much
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    for your time and it's a pleasure to
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    meet you today uh first of all I will
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    ask you this is a banana for2 dams yes
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    once it gets into your hands it will be
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    worth $6.2 million I'll ask you just to
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    take a bite please
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    okay it like the six2 million thank you
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    so much we can we can leave it now Mr
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    Justin son I think it's the um everyone
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    now wants to know what's
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    behind the the process of buying a
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    banana for $6.2 million because a lot of
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    people they are saying that it's a
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    Marketing Act yes um first of all I have
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    been um into this Arts Gallery
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    collection um industry for quite a long
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    time so before that uh I was a collector
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    of Picasso Andy wo uh and
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    Jack um so actually banana is just one
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    of the RPS uh I feel quite interest I
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    also collect lots of nft Arts the people
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    and those artists as well so uh I think
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    this is basically like one of the uh
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    collections um um because I that's also
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    the first time I look into conceptual
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    art uh of course uh banana today is the
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    um comedian it's the most famous
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    conceptual art uh in the world um but
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    actually uh I was surprised um to see
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    like everybody feels so excited about it
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    and banana has a track like CU it was
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    about the value you gave it the value
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    now yes many of the attraction um so I I
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    feel kind of the surprise um but before
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    that um U my process is very simple
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    right so I just see the banana I I think
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    it's a good art but of course I always
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    get also give a budget for it um
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    actually you know my um thinking of the
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    budget is up to $5 million you know if
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    above Way Beyond that U I probably won't
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    buy it so so that's why I think at that
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    day you know this is uh is kind of like
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    a coincidence right eventually I win the
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    bit you were planning to stop paying
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    more than 5.2 so let's say if someone
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    have paid like 5.5 you will never go
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    with them uh 5.5 probably I will go but
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    for example let's say like $8 million
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    right even I will say like let's buy
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    Bitcoin yeah it's it's kind of crazy
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    right uh let let's go go with Bitcoin
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    exactly Mr son uh you mentioning that
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    TRX which is your cryptocurrency is the
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    new xrp yes are you relying here on the
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    blockchain project of the
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    TRX because it's Unique as we know um or
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    on the community yes or is there any
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    like new announcements or Partnerships
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    in the future that you are relying on
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    for this increase yes sure um so first
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    of all actually lots of people don't
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    know the background so I get into
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    cryptocurrency uh because of xrp um I
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    join uh xrp at that time the company is
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    called opencoin um later turn to riol
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    labs around
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    2013 uh I and I work for the company
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    until 2015
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    um so when we first you know um create
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    TRX uh we actually uh um doing a lot of
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    um uh similar things with xrp you can
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    see the circulation Supply is kind of
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    same it's all um uh 100 bilon uh
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    circulation Supply um and also the name
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    you know share two similar character r r
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    and X right um so so that's why I think
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    there's lots of the similar ity between
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    the TRX community and xrp Community um
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    and also when we first founded TRX uh we
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    want to do the similar things with xrp
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    uh cuz when I join xrp xrp uh is
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    dedicated to create uh a new Swift
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    decentralized swift it will become the
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    settlement layer for all the banks like
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    all the financial institution and every
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    developers in the world right people can
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    have stable Co
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    settling the network you know and I'm
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    glad you know after we find found it TR
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    Network for the past 8 years we we kind
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    like doing the um doing this job and uh
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    doing it very good um today we are
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    settling around 30 billion dollars like
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    every day uh and like everybody is uh
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    excited about this new settlement layer
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    um we have been building for quite a
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    long time Mr son you mentioned the AI
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    and it's so important now to about it so
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    are you concerned about that that AI
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    also might affect the cryptocurrency
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    market in a very negative way um so
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    right now I'm positive about AI um
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    because I think AI is invented by human
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    right so we can put uh lots of rules um
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    on top of the AI itself to make sure AI
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    won't break any rules um but also I
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    think AI is not as powerful as we think
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    right now Mr
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    um regulations are one of the most
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    important things for the crypto industry
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    because we've seen like a very tough
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    years on the crypto
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    companies are you optimistic about the
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    regulations after Donald Trumps takes
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    over the White House yes um I think it
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    still takes some time you know to change
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    the regulation completely uh but I
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    definitely believe uh president
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    Trump's um got elected again um in the
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    election like really helps uh crypto to
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    grow to a new stage uh because before
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    that um uh I think us is not only a
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    country uh it's represents like one of
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    the strongest country their regory
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    attitude towards cryptocurrency right so
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    that's why I think if us don't have a
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    clear regulatory process most of the
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    country in the world uh will be like
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    very kind of conservative uh in terms of
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    crypto but I believe like after
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    president Trump get got elected uh and
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    himself right also doing a crypto pro
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    project World Liberty Financial which
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    aiming to bridge the traditional Finance
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    with the defi uh with the blockchain
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    industry uh which I think really helps
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    uh the industry itself grow to a new
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    stage you mention mentioned the word
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    Liberty financial and I have to ask you
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    about it first of all I think a lot of
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    people now in the crypto industry um
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    they are jealous because of what you did
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    in one year yes and they've never done
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    it in 10 years yes according to that
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    I'll mention your role in the world
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    Liberty um uh and first of all you are
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    an advisor now for them and at the same
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    time you are an investor right yes what
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    are we waiting from this role yes so
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    first of all I think um myself will be
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    super beneficial to uh the world Liberty
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    Financial uh because World Liberty
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    Financial is aiming to bridge the
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    traditional Finance with the Defi and
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    the blockchain industry um but my
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    expertise um basically is on
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    decentralized finance building a
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    blockchain uh blockchain security so
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    that's why I think we can help a lot um
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    Liberty Financial to grow untraditional
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    um Finance into um the decentralized
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    world so yeah only in the US we are
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    talking on yeah sure sure yes yes uh for
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    sure uh I think that's also um the value
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    of world Liberty Financial in right but
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    of course as the name you know uh I
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    think uh World Liberty Financial of
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    course is not limited to United States I
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    think they in the in the name of the
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    projects right we know they want to
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    expand to the world everywhere you know
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    uh they want to uh make us as a hub of
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    global defi development uh which I think
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    I'm um I I totally agree with this
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    Vision um and I think we will continue
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    to grow this product to a global basis
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    do you think also that making the US
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    again a Global Hub or a the new hub for
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    the cryptocurrency market will make like
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    a lot of companies who left to to go
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    back there to leave all the countries
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    and go back there yes first of all I
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    think the um the last Administration you
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    know law en enforcement action or these
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    kind of the um signals right only
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    driving lots of crypto uh currency
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    project away from United States um I
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    definitely believe you know um uh World
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    Liberty financial and president Trump
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    set a very good example not only
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    um attract crypto business back to us
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    but I think his new policies uh will uh
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    Drive lots of um business back to United
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    States um I can give you example uh for
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    example even Apple a company right
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    popular in United States actually put
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    most of their funds outside of us
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    actually in Ireland uh I think it's
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    because of the regulatory hurdles here
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    um but I think after president Trump you
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    know resume in the office um even lots
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    of the major public listed us companies
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    were considering like move their funds
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    or move their uh employees uh back to
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    United States because um I I think this
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    is a a big opportunities right um so
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    that's also one of the philosophies I
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    think president Trump doing is better
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    than the last Administration um is he
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    traded uh entrepreneurs uh with uh uh
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    respect and um understanding uh um at
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    the end he's the businessman he knows
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    what want to deal with them ex exactly
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    right rather than you know go after like
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    every uh entrepreneurs you know ask him
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    for money you know uh he is offering
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    opportunities for them right so that's I
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    think for um every country if you want
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    to success um that's like the way you
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    know you can make your country like
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    really grow and on the other hand China
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    is still very conservative about the
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    crypto regulations and at some extent
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    it's like doing very tough regulations
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    on the cryptocurrency
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    market what's the reason behind that in
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    your opinion yeah I think China uh right
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    now is also I I we love competition
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    right I think if we have two biggest
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    country in the world China and the
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    United States compete for the crypto Hub
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    you know that will be the best best for
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    the entrepreneurs uh in the industry and
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    also the same time actually I I believe
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    it's good for the world as well right so
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    uh we need two uh biggest superpowers in
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    the world you know compete for the
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    business you know compete for Bitcoin to
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    become the Hub of Bitcoin you know
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    compete to buying Bitcoin in low price
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    you know uh I I think it's uh great for
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    everybody uh in the industry uh for
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    example you know recently Microsoft you
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    know uh just declin to buy Bitcoin as
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    their result you made a tweet about that
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    exactly reserve and I said like you know
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    if you don't buy Bitcoin you know in
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    100K US Dollars you know you will buy it
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    in exactly $1 million so that's why I
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    think every company is seeing the
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    opportunity right if you know Microsoft
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    will be the last one who buy it you know
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    you're going to buy it with the highest
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    price actually right so that's why I
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    think this is the country competition is
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    also here right um I think for all the
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    uh head of states in the world uh you
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    make you need to make sure your country
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    is the first uh if you are not the first
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    you will be the last right because at
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    the end of the day like everybody going
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    to join a blockchain industry going to
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    join crypto uh you definitely don't want
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    to be the LA last here right so that's
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    um that's like my stand on the policy
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    making of uh cryptocurrency everyone is
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    happy now
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    we have seen the 100K Mark and we've
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    doing a lot of celebrations yes what's
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    after that after the 100K what's up yes
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    I think it's uh so lots of people seeing
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    this might be a hype you know um might
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    be a end of the story some of the people
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    myell Bitcoin and say oh I achieved like
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    Financial Freedom you know I I I can to
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    retire but for for me and I think for a
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    lots of builders in the industry uh I
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    think this is the beginning of the new
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    era actually you know because uh us has
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    Unleashed so much potential and the
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    older Regulators in the world will start
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    to embrace cryptocurrency I think this
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    is the first time actually we have
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    chance to go to the mass adoption um
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    because lots of hurdle we have before
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    has disappeared um for example um today
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    I think one of the biggest hurdle for
  • 00:15:56
    cryptocurrency uh to get Mass adoption
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    it's not because our of our technology
  • 00:16:03
    uh is because of the re hurdles and a
  • 00:16:05
    lot of the uh traditional financial
  • 00:16:08
    banking discrimination uh for example
  • 00:16:11
    like Tron today uh we are handling over
  • 00:16:14
    30 billion dollar um transaction every
  • 00:16:17
    day and for the past like eight years
  • 00:16:20
    there no even a single glitch right it's
  • 00:16:22
    a settle instantly every day uh people
  • 00:16:26
    can get their money uh it's actually way
  • 00:16:28
    better than Swift you know uh way better
  • 00:16:31
    than the traditional Finance is doing
  • 00:16:33
    but one of the reason um um for today's
  • 00:16:36
    hurdle is banking they are still very
  • 00:16:39
    conservative for cryptocurrency I if you
  • 00:16:42
    receive like one single dollars from
  • 00:16:45
    cryptocurrency they will say right from
  • 00:16:47
    Bitcoin they will say oh it's uh they
  • 00:16:50
    make a big deal of it but actually you
  • 00:16:52
    know the money is clean uh the same AML
  • 00:16:56
    you know the same kyc process is opted
  • 00:16:59
    on the blockchain with the traditional
  • 00:17:01
    finance and that's also something I
  • 00:17:03
    always try to convince them is actually
  • 00:17:08
    on blockchain is more transparent than
  • 00:17:10
    traditional Finance because you know on
  • 00:17:13
    blockchain if for example a sension
  • 00:17:15
    dollars is transferred to a bank which
  • 00:17:18
    is kind traceable you know until like
  • 00:17:21
    who is sending it who belongs to it you
  • 00:17:24
    know and we can take action against it
  • 00:17:27
    so so that's why um I I think blockchain
  • 00:17:29
    is a perfect solution but before that
  • 00:17:32
    people is just like too concerned about
  • 00:17:34
    it and refuse to use it right uh imag in
  • 00:17:37
    the future US Government prove you know
  • 00:17:40
    Trump blockchain and all the US Banks
  • 00:17:43
    plugs plugs into Trump blockchain and
  • 00:17:47
    their users can send in money instantly
  • 00:17:49
    without waiting for one second and they
  • 00:17:52
    can send their money like all way around
  • 00:17:55
    the world and with zero dollars you know
  • 00:17:57
    uh cost wow I think it will unleash the
  • 00:18:01
    whole process right it will unleash the
  • 00:18:04
    whole potential of blockchain which I
  • 00:18:07
    think benefits everyone in the world
  • 00:18:09
    right I think the last Administration
  • 00:18:11
    try to um painting the crypto is like
  • 00:18:14
    always money laundry technology you you
  • 00:18:18
    know once the uh Banks adopt those
  • 00:18:20
    technology you know Isis will succeed
  • 00:18:24
    something that that's they they they're
  • 00:18:26
    trying to make this picture which is
  • 00:18:28
    completely wrong right which we know
  • 00:18:31
    today is all the small business and the
  • 00:18:35
    everyday business and even the big banks
  • 00:18:38
    in Us in all jurisdiction will will
  • 00:18:41
    flourish and and actually every business
  • 00:18:44
    will get benefits uh instead of hurt um
  • 00:18:48
    by adopting blockchain technology so
  • 00:18:50
    that's why I think the next 10 years uh
  • 00:18:54
    will be fascinating uh and I will I I
  • 00:18:57
    definitely believe we will see um
  • 00:19:00
    everybody's life will change like
  • 00:19:02
    positively um whether or not they're
  • 00:19:05
    using cryptocurrency right because uh uh
  • 00:19:08
    all the institutions will embrace
  • 00:19:10
    it uh in a recent interview you
  • 00:19:14
    mentioned that you will not sell your
  • 00:19:15
    Bitcoin yes on uh 100K yes on which
  • 00:19:20
    price you will s your Bitcoin uh I think
  • 00:19:23
    my position on bitcoin uh is not depends
  • 00:19:26
    on cry on price at all so I know uh lots
  • 00:19:30
    of my friends you know because I have
  • 00:19:31
    been in the Bitcoin uh industry since
  • 00:19:35
    2012 uh at that time you know Bitcoin is
  • 00:19:38
    you bought it for three cents I think
  • 00:19:40
    yes 30 cents it was 30 cents 10 cents
  • 00:19:42
    you know uh at that time you know um
  • 00:19:45
    people is just mining Bitcoin for fun
  • 00:19:48
    you know using their personal computer
  • 00:19:50
    and uh you can buy like a thousand
  • 00:19:53
    Bitcoin like five five $500 you know if
  • 00:19:57
    you give them like $200 they probably
  • 00:19:59
    take it too uh because you know they
  • 00:20:01
    just want to make make make bads the
  • 00:20:04
    electronic fees they pay for Bitcoin um
  • 00:20:07
    but for me um I think is uh the idea the
  • 00:20:11
    whole idea uh is if I can find a new
  • 00:20:15
    place more
  • 00:20:17
    excited um than Bitcoin I probably leave
  • 00:20:20
    right I will sell my Bitcoin and go to
  • 00:20:23
    those industry but as long as I don't
  • 00:20:26
    find any industry is more excited about
  • 00:20:29
    Bitcoin no matter what's the price right
  • 00:20:32
    I I won't sell at all at that extent you
  • 00:20:35
    are a Believer you don't like you don't
  • 00:20:37
    have concerns that the drop will the
  • 00:20:39
    price story will drop again uh no not
  • 00:20:42
    already seen that not at all uh and I
  • 00:20:45
    think that's also one of the reason uh
  • 00:20:47
    why I can hold you know start from 10
  • 00:20:50
    cents to 100K dollars right for most of
  • 00:20:53
    the people if you are considering
  • 00:20:55
    Financial returns that will be insane
  • 00:20:57
    because some of my friends bought
  • 00:20:59
    Bitcoin at 10 cents at that time you
  • 00:21:02
    know told me you know uh uh uh a week
  • 00:21:06
    after buying Bitcoin they told me I have
  • 00:21:08
    sold it all you know at 30 cents you
  • 00:21:12
    know what I have made
  • 00:21:14
    300% return how B you know and I have
  • 00:21:18
    never made this much of the money in my
  • 00:21:20
    whole life you know and I I sell it like
  • 00:21:23
    completely you know because you know I I
  • 00:21:25
    I made so much money right um so that's
  • 00:21:29
    I think is a different angle right uh
  • 00:21:31
    for me uh I will never leave the
  • 00:21:33
    industry because I can never find an
  • 00:21:36
    industry um as exciting as Bitcoin right
  • 00:21:40
    so so that's why I think some days I
  • 00:21:42
    don't know if I find out like going to
  • 00:21:45
    the Mars you know has more potential and
  • 00:21:48
    more excited I may sell my Bitcoin to to
  • 00:21:51
    buying a space uh aircraft to go to Mars
  • 00:21:54
    right but before that you know uh I
  • 00:21:56
    think I will stick to the Bitcoin no
  • 00:21:59
    matter the price even tomorrow you know
  • 00:22:01
    uh the Bitcoin price goes to $1 million
  • 00:22:04
    I will ask myself you know um do I still
  • 00:22:08
    want to stay in the industry do I find
  • 00:22:11
    more uh uh a better industry than bcoin
  • 00:22:15
    you know if the answer is no I think $1
  • 00:22:17
    million I will stay stay here too last
  • 00:22:21
    two questions yeah first one is about um
  • 00:22:25
    excuse me to say that I'll ask you about
  • 00:22:29
    Charles hoskinson the founder of cardano
  • 00:22:32
    in two times the first when you posted
  • 00:22:36
    about liberland and the second time when
  • 00:22:39
    you uh reassure user regarding the
  • 00:22:42
    12,000
  • 00:22:43
    Bitcoin uh 12,000 Bitcoin backing the
  • 00:22:48
    usdd is there like any problem like
  • 00:22:53
    personal problem between you and Charles
  • 00:22:55
    hoskinson uh not not at all actually I I
  • 00:22:58
    met uh Charles on in several you know
  • 00:23:02
    occasions uh including Satoshi round
  • 00:23:04
    table and also all different industry uh
  • 00:23:09
    meetings you know um my impression about
  • 00:23:13
    Charles is uh he is like a cowboy you
  • 00:23:16
    know when uh he's wearing it's actually
  • 00:23:20
    you know quite different from you know
  • 00:23:22
    all the crypto funders uh because most
  • 00:23:26
    of them were like business suit you know
  • 00:23:28
    uh and uh or just like a cicon valley
  • 00:23:31
    style you know but child is uh uh look
  • 00:23:35
    like a cowboy right which is uh I think
  • 00:23:37
    very unique actually I pick up his uh
  • 00:23:40
    image you know uh first time when I met
  • 00:23:43
    him uh and but for our the things we are
  • 00:23:46
    doing right now I think most of the
  • 00:23:48
    initiative is uh uh is very new I think
  • 00:23:52
    that's why you know when the new scenes
  • 00:23:54
    comes out people might don't really like
  • 00:23:57
    understand it I I I totally feel the
  • 00:24:00
    sympathy of it uh I think most of our
  • 00:24:03
    project will be easier for people to
  • 00:24:06
    understand uh or making comments um
  • 00:24:10
    after probably three years we have dewel
  • 00:24:12
    it uh rather than you know like the the
  • 00:24:15
    first day you know when it born because
  • 00:24:17
    the the idea might be like too crazy you
  • 00:24:20
    know to to understand and uh it might
  • 00:24:23
    draw a lot of controversial uh
  • 00:24:26
    controversy sorry controversy uh for
  • 00:24:28
    example uh like the banana is also the
  • 00:24:30
    same thing right uh last time I told
  • 00:24:33
    jist probably let's look back the the
  • 00:24:36
    bananas price after three years you know
  • 00:24:39
    uh probably we will have new
  • 00:24:41
    understanding of this art you know
  • 00:24:43
    because right now at the beginning
  • 00:24:45
    people will say like wow $3 million for
  • 00:24:47
    banana is insane right but I think let's
  • 00:24:51
    see like in the next three years like
  • 00:24:53
    how what what happened to it Mr son it
  • 00:24:56
    was really a pleasure meet you today
  • 00:24:59
    there's a lot also to talk about thank
  • 00:25:02
    you so much for your time
  • 00:25:04
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