Here Are All the Cars Where I Disagree With Everyone Else

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Summary

TLDRIn this video, Doug DeMuro discusses several cars where his opinions significantly differ from the general consensus. He defends cars like the BMW i8 and M2 for their driving experience and unique features, while criticizing the Ferrari Testarossa for being less original compared to the Lamborghini Countach. Doug also praises the INEOS Grenadier as a nostalgic SUV and expresses disappointment in the Lexus LFA's driving dynamics despite its legendary status. He challenges the negative perceptions of the Mini Countryman and Mercedes-Benz EQS, demonstrating a broader appreciation for vehicles often dismissed by enthusiasts. Finally, he highlights the aesthetic appeal of the Plymouth Prowler and the Pontiac Solstice—advocating for a more nuanced perspective on these cars.

Takeaways

  • 🚗 Doug believes the BMW i8 is a cool, futuristic car despite criticism.
  • 🔧 He argues the new BMW M2 is a significant manual sports car that should be appreciated.
  • 📉 Doug finds the Ferrari Testarossa overrated compared to the Lamborghini Countach.
  • 🛻 He lauds the INEOS Grenadier for keeping the classic SUV spirit alive.
  • 🔊 Doug feels the Lexus LFA doesn't live up to its hype from early reviews.
  • 🧩 He supports the Mini Countryman for being the most engaging small crossover.
  • ⚡ Doug enjoys the Mercedes-Benz EQS for its comfort and modern technology.
  • 🏎️ He considers the Plymouth Prowler a unique automotive achievement.
  • ✨ Doug suggests the Pontiac Solstice is a performance car deserving of more recognition.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Doug DeMuro discusses his unique opinions on cars that differ significantly from popular sentiment, focusing on cars he either loves or hates more than others do. He mentions that while most of his opinions align with prevailing views, he has identified a select few cars where he fundamentally disagrees.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The BMW i8 is a car that Doug has reviewed multiple times and appreciates for its futuristic design and enjoyable driving experience, despite the general consensus that it is a poor sports car. He argues that it deserves more recognition for its distinctive appeal and performance at a reasonable price point.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Doug expresses his strong admiration for the new BMW M2, which he believes marks the end of an era for traditional BMW performance cars. He contends that criticisms about its appearance overlook the car's driving capabilities and historical significance, emphasizing that enthusiasts should celebrate such vehicles rather than dismiss them.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:23:01

    He contrasts the Ferrari Testarossa and Lamborghini Countach, expressing that the former's reputation is overrated compared to the groundbreaking Countach. Doug believes the Testarossa is a derivative design that lacks the originality and excitement of its Lamborghini rival, whose driving experience and historic impact are far superior.

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Video Q&A

  • What is the main theme of Doug DeMuro's video?

    He talks about cars where his opinions differ from the general sentiment.

  • Which car does Doug DeMuro surprisingly like?

    He expresses positive views on the BMW i8 and BMW M2.

  • Does Doug agree with the criticism of the Ferrari Testarossa?

    He believes the Testarossa is overrated compared to the Lamborghini Countach.

  • What does Doug think about the INEOS Grenadier?

    He thinks it is misunderstood and aligns with old SUV enthusiasts' expectations.

  • How does Doug feel about the Lexus LFA?

    He finds it disappointing compared to the hype surrounding it.

  • Is Doug a fan of the Mini Countryman?

    Yes, he considers it a fun crossover amidst criticism.

  • What is Doug's stance on the Mercedes-Benz EQS?

    He appreciates it for its comfort and high-tech features despite common criticisms.

  • How does Doug feel about the Plymouth Prowler?

    He finds it cool and unique despite its driving limitations.

  • What does Doug think about the Pontiac Solstice?

    He believes it deserves more appreciation for its styling and performance.

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    this is Doug deuro and today we're going
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    to talk about cars where I disagree with
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    everyone else either I like the car way
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    more than everybody else does or I hate
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    the car way more than everybody else
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    does these are the top cars where my
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    opinion is different from everyone
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    else's
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    top cars where I disagree with everyone
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    else these are alphabetized um they're
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    not like in numbers numbered order where
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    I come up with the most disagreed and
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    they're just alphabetical and I should
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    say you know most of the time when I
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    review cars my opinion lines up with the
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    prevailing sentiment which makes sense
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    because good car reviewers who all say
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    the same thing uh I'm not going to be
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    the one guy standing saying no they're
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    all wrong like usually I drive the car
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    and yeah you know that that feels the
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    same and this is generally teased out to
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    be true when I go to product launches
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    and we're all under embargo and when it
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    finally comes time for us to publish we
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    all have a fairly similar opinion
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    whether it's Pro or con and that's
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    because car journalists who who are
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    experts in doing this who have driven a
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    zillion different cars generally have a
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    pretty good idea is this car great is
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    this car bad where does this car rank
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    Etc uh and so there are not a lot of
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    times when I have prevailing different
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    opinions in fact I I went through
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    hundreds and hundreds of my old videos
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    just like a list of the cars and I could
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    only think of maybe 20 cars where I
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    disagreed with the general sentiment uh
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    and and about half of them it wasn't
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    that much of a disagreement but the
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    other half with the cars I'm going to
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    talk about today do have a pretty
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    significant disagreement with how most
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    people feel about these cars and so
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    today I'm going to talk through starting
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    alphabetically again with the BMW i8
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    I've reviewed the I8 twice and both
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    times I liked it the general sentiment
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    is that it is a terrible car and it's
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    stupid and it's bad and it's awful um I
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    think most people don't like the I8
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    because you know it was BMW's latest
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    attempt at a at a sports car and it
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    wasn't particularly sporty it was a
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    three-cylinder engine it was a plug-in
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    hybrid this is a when plugins were not
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    as common as they are now when the I8
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    came out 10 years ago and people were
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    like so mad that BMW noted former
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    manufacturer of amazing pleasurable
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    sports cars was suddenly making this
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    stupid automatic futur looking thing
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    when they could have just done like a V8
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    manual true sports car and I get that
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    however if you take the I8 at face value
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    it's actually a pretty cool car their
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    goal wasn't to make a V8 manual sports
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    car they wanted to make something that
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    seems sort of futuristic and cool and
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    exciting and the I8 for its flaws for
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    what it could have been when you think
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    about what BMW was trying to execute I
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    think it was actually pretty cool they
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    wanted something that looked crazy and
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    the I8 looked crazy I mean it really
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    then especially but also now had like a
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    very futuristic very exciting crazy look
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    to it that was just people would see it
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    what is this thing I remember you know
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    when they first came out and and even a
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    few years later people had them on turo
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    and you could go rent one and drive it
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    around and you'd get all the looks and
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    all the attention because it was just
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    such an absolutely insane car it wasn't
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    that expensive uh and it was also
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    relatively fun to drive people oh it's a
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    three-cylinder well it's a
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    three-cylinder with electric assist and
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    obviously small motors with with
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    electric have become more common now but
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    it had like 306 400 horsepower some some
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    decent amount and and it was quick it
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    was a quick car that cornered flat that
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    steered well it was fun to drive and I
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    especially like the I8 now that it has
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    become relatively affordable this is a
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    $35 to $40,000 car that's a pretty good
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    bargain considering what it offers um I
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    understand that it is not the main you
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    know it's not an E46 M3 it's not a z3m
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    coupe but it's a fun car and given what
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    BMW was trying to execute I actually
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    think it was executed in a in a fairly
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    reasonably exciting Manner and I think
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    they're cool cars and frankly I think if
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    you ask the general public not car
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    enthusiasts but the general public they
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    would agree it's cool and it is next up
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    cars where I disagree with everyone else
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    this is a huge disagreement I have with
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    most people the new BMW M2 the new BMW
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    M2 which everybody just complains about
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    all people do is complain about the new
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    M2 new M2 is out just complain complain
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    complain and uh the way it looks you
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    know the fact that it's bigger and I
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    want to just slap all these people and
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    say look this is the end you're seeing
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    the last six-cylinder manual
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    transmission rear wheeel drive BMW like
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    this used to be BMW's bread and butter
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    when I was a kid this is what they did
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    and you are seeing the end of it this is
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    the last of the last you should
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    appreciate the fact that you are still
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    living in an era when BMW is
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    manufacturing a car like this because
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    soon you won't be this is this is where
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    it all stops the next one's going to be
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    an automatic plug-in hybrid whatever
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    this is all this is it this is the end
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    of the line and and I understand the
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    complaints about it not being that
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    attractive frankly I like how it looks I
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    preferred how the previous one looked I
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    preferred how the 1M looked back in 2011
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    of course it's a weird looking car a
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    little bit but I would I look past that
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    in two seconds especially when I get
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    behind the wheel and drive the car the
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    new M2 drives wonderfully it is it is
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    the last gasp of of still performing
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    still a BMW from what I remember it like
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    as a kid you know Ken always complains
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    BMW's lost the plot they've changed they
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    they're not the same brand as they were
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    that's true but there are still a few
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    bright shining stars uh which isn't true
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    for some Brands some brands have no
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    bright shining stars they they used to
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    be something and they've changed BMW
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    still has a few and the M2 is one of
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    them and my view is when a manufacturer
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    releases a car like this we should be
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    happy about the fact that they're even
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    still doing cars like this instead of
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    being like Oh the front end is ugly
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    that's why I'm not buying it oh the
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    fenders are ugly that's why I'm not
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    buying it no you're not buying cuz you
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    never were going to buy a car like this
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    in the first place we all know that you
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    just want to complain online but the
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    truth is it's a special thing to still
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    have vehicles like this in existence and
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    I'm thrilled that it's still here I
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    really am okay next car ride disagree
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    with everyone else this is going to be
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    controversial the Ferrari tester Roa and
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    actually I'm going to add the
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    Lamborghini Countach to this and and
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    make a full holistic Point here the
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    Ferrari tester Roa and the Lamborghini
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    kastro rival cars back in the 1980s and
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    the kunash was generally agreed to be
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    the insane one and as time has gone on
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    there's been more appreciation for the
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    Countach of course has become beloved
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    but the tester Roa has gained some
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    appreciation and I don't really think
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    it's warranted to be honest um they cost
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    about the same when they were new and
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    now the Countach is is many multiples
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    higher and I think that's a reflection
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    of two things number one the tester Roa
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    isn't that rare um but also it's a
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    reflection of the fact that the Kos was
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    a groundbreaking and amazing and
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    exciting and insane car and the
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    testarosa at its core was a copycat of
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    all that Lamborghini had come out with
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    the Mid Engine V12 Supercar and Ferrari
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    who had prior to that only made front
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    engine V12 supercars ran to the drawing
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    boards to try to get at Lamborghini they
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    had to come up with something and so
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    Ferrari had the boxer and then they had
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    the tester Roa and then Ferrari realized
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    they were never going to beat
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    Lamborghini and they bailed on the
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    mid-engine V12 Supercar and went back to
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    front engine cars in that segment and
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    which was the right call except for the
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    oneoff like the F50 and Lamborghini
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    continues this bloodline Mira Countach
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    Diablo Mercy Aventador and now RTO which
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    is amazing as well and I find it to be
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    interesting that there's been this kind
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    of ground swell of excitement about the
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    tester Roa in the last few years it's
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    just not that great it was a copycat car
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    of the Countach in my opinion I never
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    liked how it looked and also it just
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    doesn't drive all that well and the cool
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    thing about the Countach is it had this
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    groundbreaking the wedge shape it
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    basically invented the wedge design
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    which became so popular it was the first
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    car ever with scissor doors it was kind
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    of the beginning of the insane superar
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    as we know it today and the tester Roa
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    just never offered what the Kash did it
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    was just Ferrari's attempt at at at
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    doing what Lamborghini was doing and
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    frankly not a successful attempt now the
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    market agrees with me cachas are are
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    again like I said worth four or five
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    times what tester roas are worth and
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    that they deserve to be U but a lot of
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    people really hold the testera in this
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    High esteem that I just don't quite
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    understand it is simply not that great
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    not that original not that special and
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    not that cool looking uh when the count
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    is all of those things and on the
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    subject of the Countach in terms of cars
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    where I disagree with people you know
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    people always come up to me every time I
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    drive the kach to Cars and Coffee but
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    doesn't it drive like crap that's the
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    first thing they say and I just want to
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    slap him in the face and say get in
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    let's do this and take him for a spin
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    and say does you think it drives like
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    crap now like yeah it's it's this it's
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    this old agrarian kind of thing but all
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    cars were like that back then and this
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    one sounds unbelievable it is an
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    absolute Ely amazing menacing crazy
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    Driving Experience and when people talk
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    about oh it's not that great to drive
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    well but it's it's it's an old car like
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    all these 70s 80s cars are by modern
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    standards not that great to drive the
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    thing that separates this car is it's
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    just absolutely insane it feels insane
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    it drives insane it's a ridiculous thing
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    and the experience is so amazing and I
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    think that's what makes count so great
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    and frankly by comparison tester Roa
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    does not have that same EXP experience
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    you don't have the same level of sound
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    you don't have the same visual drama the
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    same craziness Ferrari created the
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    tester Roa to to copy the Countach and
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    and instead watered it down to things
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    that in my opinion make the Countach so
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    special so my disagreement here is that
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    I think the tester Roa isn't as great as
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    people say and I think the kachha is
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    better than people say um and when I
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    think back about the 80s mid-engine
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    Exotic Car Wars kunos has won it was
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    always the winner uh but and now it is
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    finally getting the recognition it
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    deserves and I'm thrilled about that
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    because there was a time when when
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    tester Roa values were higher than
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    countes values it made no sense the
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    market liked them better and finally
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    people have come around to understand
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    what makes the K so special and I think
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    the tester roa's General languishing
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    shows that somewhat people agree with me
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    but I just want to make it really clear
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    how I feel okay next car uh where I
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    disagree with everyone else this is a
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    car where most people watching will
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    agree with me but most everyone else is
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    will disagree with me and that's the
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    inos Grenadier I loved the gradi I think
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    it's awesome uh and a lot of the reviews
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    that I read were tremendously critical
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    of it and I think that people who review
  • 00:10:36
    that car critically Totally Miss the
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    point of what that car is about I see
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    complaints about the ride quality the
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    harshness the the the arrow the arrow
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    the wind noise the everything basically
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    that that it simply isn't like refined
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    enough and I want to just hit these
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    people and say that's the point it's not
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    refined enough that's the point but I
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    think a lot of the people who review the
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    car that way are not old SUV Enthusiast
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    and I'm an old SUV Enthusiast I have an
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    old G wagon now I had an old Land Rover
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    Defender I had an old Toyota Land
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    Cruiser I have had all of the old SUVs
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    and this that's the that's the world I
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    live in and so getting into the NEOS
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    Grenadier Felt Like Home to me in fact
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    my only real criticism of the Grenadier
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    aside from a few switch gear related
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    things my only real criticism is I think
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    the engine is too refined I think that
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    the car the whole intent of the car was
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    to be this blocky utilitarian truck but
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    then they use this kind of smooth BMW
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    6-cylinder and it doesn't work and I
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    wish that we in the states had gotten
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    the diesel version which I imagine feels
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    like a little bit more lumbering that's
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    my criticism I actually think the power
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    trade is too smooth um I think the car
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    in general is a great example of what
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    they were trying to do and I think the
  • 00:11:46
    reviews that are negative about it
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    missed the plot of what the car was
  • 00:11:50
    supposed to be and I think they did a
  • 00:11:52
    great job making the car precisely what
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    it was supposed to be uh and I love it
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    and I I love the inos Grenadier for what
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    it is and I think it's a great execution
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    of this thing that not many people want
  • 00:12:04
    anymore but some still do proven by the
  • 00:12:06
    sales okay next car where I disagree
  • 00:12:09
    with everyone else the Lexus LFA I
  • 00:12:12
    recently made a video about the most
  • 00:12:13
    disappointing cars I've reviewed talked
  • 00:12:15
    about my experience with the LFA there
  • 00:12:16
    I'll briefly mention it again here I
  • 00:12:18
    have always felt that the LFA when the
  • 00:12:19
    LFA was new the general sentiment among
  • 00:12:22
    car reviewers among car Enthusiast was
  • 00:12:23
    that the LFA was not that great of a car
  • 00:12:26
    it took him decades to develop it it was
  • 00:12:28
    laughable how long it took and then when
  • 00:12:29
    it came out it didn't drive all that
  • 00:12:31
    amazingly it didn't look all that great
  • 00:12:33
    there were there were very few of them
  • 00:12:34
    it was way too expensive there was not
  • 00:12:36
    much interest in them honestly a lot of
  • 00:12:37
    them sold to Lexus dealers who just
  • 00:12:39
    bought them kind of to take Toyota and
  • 00:12:41
    Lexus out of a Bine and over the years
  • 00:12:43
    this Legend is grown oh the LFA is so
  • 00:12:45
    cool and now I see people online and
  • 00:12:47
    forums being like I've always loved the
  • 00:12:48
    LFA and it's like no you didn't I was I
  • 00:12:51
    was there I remember when that car was
  • 00:12:53
    new there wasn't a lot of interest there
  • 00:12:55
    wasn't a lot of desire for that car and
  • 00:12:57
    now there's some revisionism going on
  • 00:12:59
    but but the truth is as someone who's
  • 00:13:00
    driven one I it's just not that great it
  • 00:13:02
    doesn't drive all that well the
  • 00:13:03
    transmission is tremendously clunky I'll
  • 00:13:04
    never forgive them for that you know
  • 00:13:06
    they could have done a manual they could
  • 00:13:07
    have waited and done dual clutch they
  • 00:13:08
    didn't either they chose the worst
  • 00:13:09
    transmission option and it really
  • 00:13:11
    affects the Driving Experience uh and I
  • 00:13:13
    never found the car to be that good-look
  • 00:13:14
    either it is the best sounding car ever
  • 00:13:16
    made it really is I just wish the
  • 00:13:17
    powertrain had gone into something else
  • 00:13:20
    uh and I just don't agree with the
  • 00:13:21
    current prevailing sentiment about that
  • 00:13:23
    car okay next car where I disagree with
  • 00:13:25
    everyone else this is one that I will a
  • 00:13:27
    hill I will die on the NC Mazda Miata
  • 00:13:30
    this is the third generation Mazda Miata
  • 00:13:32
    sold like 2006 to 2012 13 around there
  • 00:13:35
    and people don't like this people call
  • 00:13:36
    this the worst Miata which to me is like
  • 00:13:39
    saying the worst Day in heaven like okay
  • 00:13:43
    yeah it's the worst Miata I agree with
  • 00:13:45
    that but like it's still if they had
  • 00:13:47
    just come out with that car just the NC
  • 00:13:49
    and there was no na NB or ND people
  • 00:13:51
    would be like oh the Miata so cool
  • 00:13:54
    people only don't like the NC because of
  • 00:13:55
    the because they're able to compare it
  • 00:13:57
    to the na andb and N D um it's a little
  • 00:13:59
    bigger it's a little weird looking it
  • 00:14:01
    doesn't drive quite as well you know it
  • 00:14:03
    had lost a little of the plot from the
  • 00:14:04
    earlier cars but not much driving and
  • 00:14:06
    see it's still a thrilling car to drive
  • 00:14:08
    it's fun to toss around it's got great
  • 00:14:10
    steering and handling it's a really
  • 00:14:12
    really nice car it's just fun it simply
  • 00:14:14
    is a good fun car and I think people
  • 00:14:17
    wrongly beat up on the NC Miata I think
  • 00:14:19
    it totally deserves more praise than it
  • 00:14:21
    gets and I really really have always
  • 00:14:23
    enjoyed every experience that I've had
  • 00:14:24
    in the NC uh I I prefer the ND I think
  • 00:14:27
    the ND is the best Miata ever love the
  • 00:14:29
    na and the NB of course certainly the NC
  • 00:14:31
    is the worst Miata but again that's
  • 00:14:34
    that's hardly a complaint I mean it's
  • 00:14:36
    still better than basically every other
  • 00:14:38
    sporty car in its era uh it was just a
  • 00:14:41
    really well executed car just maybe not
  • 00:14:43
    as perfectly executed as some of the
  • 00:14:45
    other Miatas okay next car where I
  • 00:14:47
    disagree with everyone else this is a
  • 00:14:49
    big disagreement I have with basically
  • 00:14:50
    everyone else and that is the
  • 00:14:51
    mercedesbenz
  • 00:14:53
    eqs which I absolutely adore a lot of
  • 00:14:57
    people hate it and there's a lot of
  • 00:14:58
    reasons to hate it uh a lot of you know
  • 00:15:01
    car purist type people hate it cuz it's
  • 00:15:03
    electric I don't want an electric car
  • 00:15:04
    it's stupid okay fine then a lot of car
  • 00:15:06
    enthusiasts even who are willing to
  • 00:15:08
    accept an electric car hate it because
  • 00:15:09
    it's ugly and I've seen some of the
  • 00:15:11
    criticisms that this car has gotten that
  • 00:15:12
    are totally unfair and I think some of
  • 00:15:14
    it is on the fact that people really
  • 00:15:16
    don't like how it looks and they have
  • 00:15:18
    transferred that hatred to other parts
  • 00:15:19
    of the car that it just doesn't deserve
  • 00:15:21
    hatred for I've seen people call it low
  • 00:15:23
    quality I've seen people complain about
  • 00:15:24
    the ride I that is laughable to me as a
  • 00:15:28
    guy who has has has spent a lot of time
  • 00:15:31
    in comfortable cars because I hate
  • 00:15:32
    getting beat up anymore the eqs is a
  • 00:15:35
    seriously comfortable car and the
  • 00:15:37
    interior is really high quality another
  • 00:15:38
    thing that car purists don't like about
  • 00:15:40
    it is a lot of screens put a lot of
  • 00:15:41
    screens in a car it's an easy way for
  • 00:15:43
    automotive purist to be like that car
  • 00:15:44
    get 20
  • 00:15:46
    screens but for those of us who actually
  • 00:15:49
    know what consumers are looking for
  • 00:15:51
    technology and screens is a big part of
  • 00:15:53
    modern luxury cars and I think the
  • 00:15:55
    criticism about the eqs has been way
  • 00:15:57
    totally overblown it is a little bit
  • 00:15:59
    weird looking but it's also kind of cool
  • 00:16:00
    and futuristic and mostly it's just a
  • 00:16:02
    damn good car it is comfortable it is
  • 00:16:04
    high-tech it it it breaks a lot of the
  • 00:16:07
    things enthusiasts like it's electric
  • 00:16:08
    they hate that it's weird looking they
  • 00:16:09
    hate that it's it's way too many screens
  • 00:16:12
    they hate that but for a luxury car
  • 00:16:14
    buyer it is a damn good experience and I
  • 00:16:16
    think the eqs is a seriously excellent
  • 00:16:19
    car and if I were choosing between an
  • 00:16:20
    eqs and an S-Class I would choose an eqs
  • 00:16:22
    if I was buying one used cuz boy if
  • 00:16:24
    they'd appreciated mostly because
  • 00:16:26
    there's been a lot of criticism there's
  • 00:16:27
    not a lot of buyers but I think get
  • 00:16:29
    misplaced I think the eqs is a really
  • 00:16:31
    great electric version of an S-Class and
  • 00:16:33
    I am every time I'm able to drive a ride
  • 00:16:35
    in one I am thrilled it is a nice car
  • 00:16:37
    okay next one down of the last few cars
  • 00:16:39
    where I disagree with everyone else uh
  • 00:16:42
    this one is a little multifaceted I I'm
  • 00:16:44
    going to first talk about the mini
  • 00:16:45
    countrymen and then I want to talk about
  • 00:16:47
    mini in general the mini Countryman gets
  • 00:16:49
    a lot of hate because it's a crossover
  • 00:16:51
    mini they took the mini it was so small
  • 00:16:52
    they made an SUV and then people hate
  • 00:16:55
    mini because of the same thing like the
  • 00:16:56
    minis used to be cool and fun and now
  • 00:16:58
    they're now they're dumb now big people
  • 00:17:00
    say I I disagree dearly with this I
  • 00:17:03
    think that the mini countrymen is the
  • 00:17:04
    greatest little crossover there is yes
  • 00:17:06
    it's an SUV ified mini and so from a
  • 00:17:08
    purist perspective yes you can't make a
  • 00:17:10
    mini when it's an SUV but like have you
  • 00:17:12
    driven the other small luxury crossovers
  • 00:17:16
    they all are the most boring Vehicles
  • 00:17:18
    you will ever spend time in in your
  • 00:17:20
    entire life have you have you bid in an
  • 00:17:22
    Acura RDX have have you have you set
  • 00:17:25
    foot in an Infinity qx50 no nobody has
  • 00:17:30
    but you the point have you been an
  • 00:17:31
    Alexus NX like those cars are so dull
  • 00:17:34
    the mini countrymen is fun yes it is a
  • 00:17:37
    SUV ified mini and so on that level it's
  • 00:17:40
    bad but like from a SUV standpoint it is
  • 00:17:44
    the most engaging and enjoyable one out
  • 00:17:47
    there and if I were recommending to a
  • 00:17:49
    car Enthusiast which little luxury
  • 00:17:51
    crossover to get you got to get an
  • 00:17:53
    Countryman you just have to they're
  • 00:17:54
    they're just the most fun the most
  • 00:17:57
    personality the most engaging and
  • 00:17:58
    enjoyable and anybody who says anything
  • 00:18:00
    else is lying to themselves this is also
  • 00:18:02
    true of the mini brand there's a lot of
  • 00:18:04
    criticism these days of the mini brand
  • 00:18:05
    that I find totally misplaced yes the
  • 00:18:07
    cars are not as cool as they were when
  • 00:18:09
    it came out when the mini brand launched
  • 00:18:10
    20 plus years ago there was a huge
  • 00:18:13
    amount of Enthusiast interest and
  • 00:18:14
    support in those cars and a lot of the
  • 00:18:16
    people who bought the early Mini Cooper
  • 00:18:17
    s's were car enthusiasts it's hard to
  • 00:18:20
    imagine that now I tell that to younger
  • 00:18:23
    car enthusiasts and they don't believe
  • 00:18:24
    me but it's true there were a lot of car
  • 00:18:27
    enthusiasts in those cars at the time
  • 00:18:28
    now Min has seen as a brand for sort of
  • 00:18:30
    older people who want the Retro thing
  • 00:18:31
    the cars still drive really well there's
  • 00:18:33
    still fun little hot hatches everybody
  • 00:18:35
    has kind of abandoned the hot hatch
  • 00:18:38
    segment uh and a lot of those cars have
  • 00:18:40
    gone away and people aren't paying as
  • 00:18:41
    much attention as they used to but if
  • 00:18:43
    you are the mini is still a fun car to
  • 00:18:45
    drive it is still a legitimate thrill to
  • 00:18:47
    drive and I still enjoy uh getting
  • 00:18:50
    behind the wheel and driving a mini a
  • 00:18:51
    new Mini I think is a fun nice good fast
  • 00:18:55
    cool car and yes they're bigger now and
  • 00:18:57
    they're four now and they've lost some
  • 00:18:58
    of the fun of the old cars but you can
  • 00:19:00
    still get a fun exciting hot hatchback
  • 00:19:02
    Mini Cooper with a manual transmission
  • 00:19:04
    to this day and I think there's
  • 00:19:06
    something special about that even though
  • 00:19:08
    people hate them CU they're not what
  • 00:19:09
    they used to be they're still better
  • 00:19:11
    than a lot of the stuff that's out there
  • 00:19:13
    okay last two last two cars that I
  • 00:19:15
    disagree with everyone else number one
  • 00:19:17
    the Plymouth Prowler a lot of people
  • 00:19:19
    don't like this is a boomer it's a car
  • 00:19:21
    for Boomers and it's an automatic with a
  • 00:19:23
    Dodge and trepid V6 all true but it's
  • 00:19:25
    still cool as hell uh the the prowler Is
  • 00:19:28
    Not Great to drop
  • 00:19:29
    but it is so cool to look at and it is
  • 00:19:31
    amazing to me that even as far as the
  • 00:19:33
    late 1990s when there were so many
  • 00:19:35
    regulatory challenges a company built a
  • 00:19:37
    car like that from a pure Automotive
  • 00:19:40
    Enthusiast standpoint it is amazing that
  • 00:19:43
    that car ever got to production that is
  • 00:19:45
    a concept car and you can drive it
  • 00:19:47
    around with a trailer that looks like it
  • 00:19:50
    it is cool as hell and I love the
  • 00:19:52
    Plymouth Prowler and I think it is a
  • 00:19:54
    really special car uh it is not great to
  • 00:19:56
    drive it is more great from a existence
  • 00:19:59
    standpoint from a look at it standpoint
  • 00:20:01
    but you know what there are some cars
  • 00:20:02
    that are better to look at and cooler to
  • 00:20:04
    just possess than to drive and if that's
  • 00:20:07
    one of them so be it I think the prowler
  • 00:20:09
    is a is a neat car and it's a neat
  • 00:20:11
    exercise in Automobilia on the same
  • 00:20:13
    topic but flip the other way the last
  • 00:20:16
    car where I disagree with everyone else
  • 00:20:17
    is the Pontiac Solstice there's a lot of
  • 00:20:19
    complaints out there about the solstice
  • 00:20:21
    from enthusiasts who always complain
  • 00:20:22
    that it was never the car that the Miata
  • 00:20:24
    was and that is true uh the solstice was
  • 00:20:27
    heavier bigger uh and it never quite was
  • 00:20:29
    they never they tried to come out with a
  • 00:20:31
    Miata but they didn't really understand
  • 00:20:33
    quite what made the Miata so special
  • 00:20:34
    which was just its small toss Bess and
  • 00:20:37
    the solstice lost some of that but it
  • 00:20:38
    did gain some other stuff the solstice
  • 00:20:40
    looked better than any Miata I think and
  • 00:20:43
    and so did the Saturn Sky I think there
  • 00:20:44
    were really cool looking cars but the
  • 00:20:46
    other cool thing about the solstice in
  • 00:20:47
    the sky was the availability of the GXP
  • 00:20:50
    and the redline model which was this
  • 00:20:51
    turbocharged 2 L 4cylinder with 260
  • 00:20:53
    horsepower I love the Miata dearly but
  • 00:20:56
    every Miata has always felt underpowered
  • 00:20:58
    to me except maybe the NB Mazda speed
  • 00:21:01
    the solers in the sky were bigger than
  • 00:21:03
    the Miata but they gave you this
  • 00:21:05
    powerful engine which was actually
  • 00:21:06
    pretty available like they were they
  • 00:21:07
    were commonly seen even still and you
  • 00:21:10
    could really beat on it a 260 horsepower
  • 00:21:13
    Saturn Sky Pon exas was a cool car it
  • 00:21:15
    was fun to drive it was fast unlike the
  • 00:21:17
    Miata and it may not have quite had the
  • 00:21:20
    the exact like little car charm that the
  • 00:21:23
    Miata did it didn't have that um but it
  • 00:21:25
    had a lot of it it was close and it had
  • 00:21:26
    a lot more power it was a more muscle to
  • 00:21:29
    it and I think the solit in the sky are
  • 00:21:31
    unfairly vilified for not doing the
  • 00:21:33
    Miata formula right when in reality what
  • 00:21:35
    they did was a takeoff on the Miata
  • 00:21:36
    formula that I think was actually pretty
  • 00:21:38
    good which was a little bigger car a
  • 00:21:40
    little more substantial more expressive
  • 00:21:42
    styling and this massively powerful
  • 00:21:44
    power Trin that you can get 260 horses
  • 00:21:46
    in a car like that is good power and I
  • 00:21:49
    think those cars deserve more love than
  • 00:21:51
    they get from enthusiasts they are also
  • 00:21:52
    viewed as kind of a baby boomer car you
  • 00:21:55
    know take it to car shows and shine it
  • 00:21:56
    up and I actually think if a if carent
  • 00:21:58
    younger car enthusiasts got in a manual
  • 00:22:00
    sky red line they would be pretty
  • 00:22:02
    impressed with how it drives dynamically
  • 00:22:04
    how fast it is especially if they were
  • 00:22:06
    coming out of something like an NC or an
  • 00:22:07
    ND Miata they would say wow you know
  • 00:22:09
    this may not quite be the D Dynamic car
  • 00:22:12
    but it does have performance that is
  • 00:22:13
    that is pretty impressive so there you
  • 00:22:16
    go the car is where I disagree with
  • 00:22:18
    everyone else there's not many but there
  • 00:22:21
    are some and my disagreements are I'm
  • 00:22:24
    sure going to elicit a lot of complaints
  • 00:22:27
    in the comments so I'm excited to hear
  • 00:22:28
    them and see how you disagree with me
  • 00:22:30
    especially about the Lexus LFA I know
  • 00:22:32
    you love it you always loved it I know I
  • 00:22:34
    know uh but those are my disagreements
  • 00:22:37
    remember they are just mine subjective
  • 00:22:39
    opinion you can have your own it's fine
  • 00:22:41
    but that's how I feel
  • 00:22:43
    [Applause]
  • 00:22:43
    [Music]
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