Ted Cruz: Trump's First Week, Texas vs. California, Immigration, DOGE, Greenland
Summary
TLDRIn this engaging episode of the All-In Podcast, Senator Ted Cruz shares insights into Texas's unique political and economic landscape compared to California. He discusses the historical significance of Texas's 'Come and Take It' flag, emphasizing a culture that values independence and resiliency. The senator highlights the favorable conditions in Texas, such as lower housing prices, no state income tax, and a business-friendly environment, contrasting it with California's high taxes and regulatory challenges. Cruz also addresses the immigration debate, advocating for legal pathways while securing the southern border. He calls for a more focused and fact-based immigration discussion that aligns with labor market needs and emphasizes the need for reduced government spending. Cruzβs anecdotes about individual responsibility and resilience resonate throughout the conversation, stressing the importance of promoting an environment conducive to business and personal success.
Takeaways
- πΊπΈ Texas culture values independence and resilience.
- π‘ Housing prices in Texas are generally lower than in California.
- π« Texas has no state income tax, promoting business growth.
- π A focus on legal immigration is essential for economic success.
- π Government spending in Texas is more restrained than in California.
- π The importance of discussing immigration needs with concrete numbers.
- π¨βπ©βπ§βπ¦ Individual responsibility is key to personal success in society.
- πΌ Entrepreneurs are celebrated in Texas, unlike in some blue states.
- βοΈ Political discourse must shift towards constructive conversation.
- π οΈ Infrastructure development in Texas supports small businesses rather than pet projects.
Timeline
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
Podcast begins with the hosts discussing the inauguration of Donald J. Trump as the 47th President, accompanied by special guest Senator Ted Cruz from Texas. Cruz showcases his custom-made boots featuring Texas symbolism, igniting a discussion about Texas history and the 'Come and Take It' flag related to the Texas Revolution.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Cruz explains the historical battle against General Santa Ana when Texas was part of Mexico, emphasizing Texan resilience in the fight for independence. The importance of the Texas Revolution is highlighted as a pivotal moment in American history.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
The conversation shifts towards the contrast in housing developments between Texas and states like California. Cruz praises Texas's low taxes and minimal regulations as reasons for economic growth, suggesting that California's strict regulations stifle development.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Cruz notes that California's change in politics since the 1980s has contributed to its decline, particularly after the 1987 amnesty deal. He discusses the negative impact of illegal immigration on California's demographics and politics, implying that it has shifted the state's political alignment.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
The discussion stretches to the efficiency of Texas's government, with Cruz asserting that effective governance requires less spending and lower regulation. He contrasts this with California's high-tax system, arguing that the exodus of people from blue states correlates with their search for better opportunities in red states like Texas.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Cruz expresses confidence in Texas's image as a welcoming environment for businesses and families, backed by the state's growing population and economic prosperity. He reflects on the influx of people relocating to Texas from other states, particularly California, seeking better opportunities.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Cruz emphasizes the need for legal immigration while advocating for securing the southern border to manage illegal immigration, sharing his personal family story of legal immigration to the US. He articulates a philosophy focusing on individual responsibility and self-determination.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
The podcast delves into political dynamics in Washington, with Cruz lamenting politicization and polarization in debates, advocating for civil conversations around bipartisan consensus. He highlights the importance of open dialogue across the aisle to address pressing issues effectively.
- 00:40:00 - 00:48:11
In conclusion, Cruz discusses upcoming priorities for the Trump administration, including border security, job creation, and deregulating the energy sector. He mentions the necessity of addressing public spending responsibly to mitigate inflation while promoting economic growth.
Mind Map
Video Q&A
What are the key differences between Texas and California regarding housing markets?
Texas has lower housing prices and no state income tax, leading to more development opportunities compared to California's high taxes and regulations.
What is Ted Cruz's stance on immigration?
Cruz supports legal immigration and believes in securing the border while also bringing in skilled workers.
How does Texas's government spending compare to California's?
Texas engages in less government spending, which Cruz argues contributes to a better economic environment.
What does Cruz mean by the 'Come and Take It' flag?
The flag represents Texas's defiance against the Mexican government's demand to surrender their arms, marking a significant moment in Texan history.
What does Cruz propose for improving infrastructure in Texas?
Cruz suggests prioritizing projects that benefit small businesses and the community rather than focusing on pet projects.
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- 00:00:01[Music]
- 00:00:05hey everybody welcome back to the all-in
- 00:00:06podcast we're here at the inauguration
- 00:00:09of our 47th president Donald J Trump and
- 00:00:13we have a very special guest joining us
- 00:00:15on our coverage Senator Ted Cruz from
- 00:00:17the great state now my great state of
- 00:00:20Texas welcome to the all-in podcast and
- 00:00:22welcome to Texas it's pretty great uh
- 00:00:24where'd you get the boots uh any chance
- 00:00:26I can get a recommendation here a refer
- 00:00:28that's easy these are lucazi
- 00:00:30uh the factory is in El Paso they're
- 00:00:32handmade there they're beautiful okay uh
- 00:00:35and and these particular Boots the front
- 00:00:37of them have the Senate seal on on them
- 00:00:39oh that's cool oh that's strong that's
- 00:00:41um and the back of them that's really
- 00:00:43great have the come and take it flag
- 00:00:46whoa which I don't know do you know the
- 00:00:48history of the come and take it flag I
- 00:00:49was about to ask you okay since you're a
- 00:00:50new Texan this is important and he
- 00:00:52started saying y'all so he's adapting
- 00:00:54but he needs to learn y'all got to stop
- 00:00:56giving me a hard time about that okay
- 00:00:58all right so Texas in the 18 20s and
- 00:01:001830s we were part of Mexico and the
- 00:01:03dictator of Mexico was General Santa Ana
- 00:01:07and there's a little town in South Texas
- 00:01:09called the town of Gonzalez and then
- 00:01:11General Anna sent an order to the
- 00:01:13texians which is what we were called
- 00:01:14back then
- 00:01:15texians to hand over their guns and
- 00:01:19there was a cannon that guarded the city
- 00:01:21and General San Ana said hand over the
- 00:01:24cannon and the texians responded by
- 00:01:27making a flag with an image of the
- 00:01:29cannon and underneath it the Legend come
- 00:01:31and take it wow and and they flew it
- 00:01:35over the town and that was the beginning
- 00:01:36of the Texas Revolution now the epilogue
- 00:01:39is San Ana came in with about 6,000
- 00:01:41soldiers and he did in fact take the
- 00:01:43cannon I mean Gonzalez was a tiny little
- 00:01:45town and the Texas Revolution was very
- 00:01:48much like the American Revolution we
- 00:01:49lost every damn battle the Alamo was a
- 00:01:52Slaughter golad was a Slaughter much
- 00:01:54like Washington where every battle he
- 00:01:55lost and lost and lost and then at San
- 00:01:58Joo we won defeated Santa Ana General
- 00:02:01Sam Houston and we became our own Nation
- 00:02:03the Republic of Texas from 1836 to 1845
- 00:02:07says something about resiliency doesn't
- 00:02:08it it does let me ask you a question um
- 00:02:11having lived in New York and grown up
- 00:02:13there now and then done 20 years uh in
- 00:02:16California now my second year in Texas
- 00:02:19or starting my second year um it's
- 00:02:22amazing to me that you're allowed to
- 00:02:24build things in Texas like homes or
- 00:02:27factories and the price of home hes has
- 00:02:30gone down two years in a row and then
- 00:02:31the other two places I live the price of
- 00:02:33homes go up every year 10
- 00:02:3620% um and then you don't have state
- 00:02:38taxes um how is all this possible when
- 00:02:42you look at it just from first
- 00:02:44principles how are you able to
- 00:02:45accomplish so much development in Texas
- 00:02:48when in California the nimbyism like
- 00:02:51literally if you want to build yeah it's
- 00:02:53a great question a cancer W for children
- 00:02:55they'll stop you because it throws shade
- 00:02:57on a protected species of flower
- 00:03:00so California used to know the answer to
- 00:03:02this 50 years ago California was the
- 00:03:05economic engine of the country and
- 00:03:07unfortunately you're cursed by idiot
- 00:03:10politicians who were destroying this
- 00:03:12this Mighty economic engine you know
- 00:03:15none of this is rocket science in in
- 00:03:17Texas we believe in Freedom we believe
- 00:03:19in low taxes and low regulations and and
- 00:03:21to understand the
- 00:03:22state Texas was basically founded by a
- 00:03:25bunch of
- 00:03:27wildcats who were guys with fourth grade
- 00:03:29educ a that began drilling holes in the
- 00:03:32ground and one after the other became
- 00:03:34the richest man on Earth yeah and and
- 00:03:36the
- 00:03:37ethos of Texas you know it was
- 00:03:40interesting number of years ago I was
- 00:03:42visiting with with a CEO and an
- 00:03:43executive team of a company that had
- 00:03:45moved from California to
- 00:03:47Texas and they didn't have any Texas
- 00:03:49ties but they were just fed up with
- 00:03:50California they moved to Texas so I was
- 00:03:52asking them they only been in Texas for
- 00:03:53a couple of months I said all right
- 00:03:54what's the biggest
- 00:03:56difference and I thought maybe they'd
- 00:03:58say taxes or maybe regulations or maybe
- 00:04:00lawsuits those were the three things I
- 00:04:02was going to guess their answer blew me
- 00:04:04away they said the biggest difference is
- 00:04:06the
- 00:04:07culture and what they said is in
- 00:04:09California if you're in business you're
- 00:04:12a pariah they said look there's an
- 00:04:14exception for Tech and an exception for
- 00:04:17Hollywood if I need more yeah well I
- 00:04:18mean that was their view but they were
- 00:04:20not in Tech or Hollywood they they were
- 00:04:22in sanitation which was not a sexy
- 00:04:23business mhm and and the way they
- 00:04:26described it they said if you're at a
- 00:04:27party and someone asked what do you do
- 00:04:28and you say I'm a businessman
- 00:04:30they said people to turn around and walk
- 00:04:32away and I got to say as a Texan that is
- 00:04:35weird I mean we lionize entrepreneurs
- 00:04:38but California was a pioneering State
- 00:04:41the Gold Rush what happened because it's
- 00:04:45you know it's always easy to blame idiot
- 00:04:47politicians but in a democracy those
- 00:04:49politicians are elected by the voters so
- 00:04:51the something where did the voters go
- 00:04:54that caused this change in that state
- 00:04:56compared to where the voters went in
- 00:04:58Texas when they both came from and all
- 00:05:00of America all the United States all the
- 00:05:02the states of the Republic came from a a
- 00:05:04pioneering origin well there is a cause
- 00:05:07and a fact and you go back to 1987 and
- 00:05:091987 is when Ronald Reagan signed
- 00:05:12amnesty into place and at the time there
- 00:05:14were 3 million illegal immigrants living
- 00:05:16in the United States and Congress went
- 00:05:19to the American people said all right we
- 00:05:20got a deal for you we're going to secure
- 00:05:22the Border we're going to fix the
- 00:05:23problem of illegal immigration forever
- 00:05:26and in exchange we're going to give
- 00:05:27amnesty to the 3 million people who are
- 00:05:29here illegally now right and in ' 87 the
- 00:05:32American people said okay that sounds
- 00:05:33like a reasonable deal they took the
- 00:05:35deal MH now we now know what happened
- 00:05:37which is the amnesty happened but the
- 00:05:39Border never got
- 00:05:41secured what did that mean for
- 00:05:43California the highest concentration of
- 00:05:45illegal immigrants was in California
- 00:05:491988 California voted Republican the
- 00:05:52presidential race as it had for six
- 00:05:54consecutive years six consecutive Cycles
- 00:05:58previously right 1988 was the last year
- 00:06:01California ever went Republican well
- 00:06:03Schwarzenegger for president oh for
- 00:06:05president in in the presidential race
- 00:06:08and so I think the amnesty law played a
- 00:06:10significant part the federal law
- 00:06:12changing the voting composition of the
- 00:06:14state yeah and then and look you guys
- 00:06:17would know the state politics more but
- 00:06:18it also seemed to me that you have the
- 00:06:21public employee unions in California
- 00:06:23that realized that they could vote
- 00:06:25themselves more and more of of the large
- 00:06:28s
- 00:06:30of democracy right and it um so Jason
- 00:06:33brought up a really important question
- 00:06:35to kick this off um I just want to give
- 00:06:38you a chance to maybe expand on it which
- 00:06:40is there are so many examples Texas is
- 00:06:44one um you can look abroad the UAE as as
- 00:06:48an example is another where there's a
- 00:06:51high degree of quality of infrastructure
- 00:06:54and Y you know civility Social Services
- 00:06:57education security
- 00:07:00um but you don't have the traditional
- 00:07:02taxation right and so how is Texas able
- 00:07:06to actually keep the wheels
- 00:07:09on and States like California which has
- 00:07:12you know $322 billion budget is just
- 00:07:16completely falling apart how like what
- 00:07:18is what what happens because you then
- 00:07:20see everything at the federal level but
- 00:07:22when you go back to your state you see
- 00:07:23hey we don't have and and your real
- 00:07:26estate taxes aren't that much higher are
- 00:07:28they than California yeah the real
- 00:07:29estate taxes are a little bit higher but
- 00:07:31we have no income tax so it more more
- 00:07:33than makes up for it yeah yeah 2% one
- 00:07:35and a half to that's the principal
- 00:07:37Avenue of Taxation you got real estate
- 00:07:39taxes and sales taxes or or where the
- 00:07:40state and and local governments get
- 00:07:42their taxes uh but no income tax look
- 00:07:45some of it is government does less uh I
- 00:07:48mean there's a philosophy that
- 00:07:49government doesn't have to spend and
- 00:07:50provide everything government does
- 00:07:53police and firefighters and Roads and
- 00:07:55does the basic responsibilities of
- 00:07:57government right but it's not not
- 00:07:59engaged in funding every pet project of
- 00:08:01every politician right
- 00:08:04um that's part of
- 00:08:08it you know you look at across the
- 00:08:11country I mean it is not a complicated
- 00:08:12migration pattern that people are
- 00:08:16fleeing bright blue states with high
- 00:08:18taxes and high regulations yeah and they
- 00:08:20are coming to Red states with low taxes
- 00:08:22and low
- 00:08:23regulations any safety so we've had it
- 00:08:27has now been more than a DEC that we
- 00:08:30have had over a thousand people a day
- 00:08:32moving to Texas so when I was first
- 00:08:34elected 13 years ago we had 26 million
- 00:08:38Texans today we have over 31 million
- 00:08:40Texans so we've added 5 million Texans
- 00:08:43in 13 years and and the biggest state
- 00:08:46folks come from is California it's
- 00:08:47interesting the migration pattern you
- 00:08:49get a lot of California to Texas New
- 00:08:51Yorkers tend to go to Florida more we
- 00:08:53get some New Yorkers but but for
- 00:08:54whatever
- 00:08:55reason West Coast folks seem to prefer
- 00:08:58Texas and East Coast folks seem to
- 00:08:59prefer Florida but I actually think the
- 00:09:01competition in terms of where we lose
- 00:09:04people
- 00:09:05to we lose people either to Florida or
- 00:09:08Tennessee those are about the only two
- 00:09:10places if someone's thinking of leaving
- 00:09:12and I love that competition I want
- 00:09:14Florida and Tennessee to be out fighting
- 00:09:16and saying we can create an even better
- 00:09:17environment for small businesses and
- 00:09:20jobs and and part of it
- 00:09:22is the number one reason people come to
- 00:09:24Texas is Texas where the jobs are and
- 00:09:26you want an environment where you have
- 00:09:28small businesses are doing great but
- 00:09:30people also want to be safe and and so
- 00:09:32you know you look at things like like
- 00:09:34defunding the police or Soros
- 00:09:36prosecutors that let murderers go yep
- 00:09:39and that gives people a pretty acute
- 00:09:41incentive to get the heck out we uh were
- 00:09:43involved in the recall of Chess budine
- 00:09:46our podcast and David Sachs our
- 00:09:48compatriot who couldn't make it um he's
- 00:09:50he's busy working uh with you guys here
- 00:09:52um but yeah this this crime issue seems
- 00:09:56people have seemed to Lost uh they seem
- 00:09:58to have lost a script on who the state
- 00:10:01is working for the taxpayers or the
- 00:10:04criminals and in Texas it it's just
- 00:10:07extraordinary that you've figured out
- 00:10:10that you could prioritize the people not
- 00:10:12committing crime and not cater to the
- 00:10:14people committing crime I mean I'm
- 00:10:15saying this in the most factious way
- 00:10:17possible but it's just common sense and
- 00:10:19I think it it feels to me like
- 00:10:20Californians have had enough and it's
- 00:10:22just going to take a decade or two to
- 00:10:24unwind it but let's let's double click
- 00:10:26on immigration since the the great state
- 00:10:28of Texas has to deal with this than
- 00:10:30anybody but this is a land of immigrants
- 00:10:33we are all immigrants on this land and
- 00:10:35so that's our tradition in fact you're
- 00:10:37sitting next to two extraordinary
- 00:10:39immigrants my my Bes chamat and freeberg
- 00:10:42what do you believe at this point in
- 00:10:43time is America for the Americans are
- 00:10:45here or do you believe we should be
- 00:10:48getting the best and brightest to come
- 00:10:49to this country look absolutely both um
- 00:10:52I have for a long time describe my
- 00:10:54immigration views in in four words legal
- 00:10:58good illegal bat okay um I think most
- 00:11:02Americans most Texans agree with that
- 00:11:04and most immigrants yeah look there's a
- 00:11:06right way to come to this country
- 00:11:08there's the way you came to this country
- 00:11:09there's the way my dad came to this
- 00:11:10country my dad was born in Cuba he grew
- 00:11:13up in Cuba he fought in the Cuban
- 00:11:15Revolution when he was a teenager he
- 00:11:16fought was thrown in prison he was
- 00:11:18tortured when he was 17 years old and he
- 00:11:21came to Texas in 1957 he he was 18
- 00:11:24couldn't speak English had $100 in his
- 00:11:27underwear and he washed dishes making 50
- 00:11:29cents an hour but he came legally
- 00:11:31because he had applied to the University
- 00:11:33of Texas he'd gotten in he came on a
- 00:11:34student visa and he was an 18e old
- 00:11:37freshman and he started going to school
- 00:11:39here and he came legally and he worked
- 00:11:41and and got a job and went on in time to
- 00:11:43start a small business and and work was
- 00:11:45he able to see your success is he still
- 00:11:47with us he is my dad is 85 oh my God
- 00:11:50what a dream for him he he is my hero it
- 00:11:52is he he's an incredible he I will say
- 00:11:56when you have lost freedom
- 00:12:00it's personal to you yeah you know
- 00:12:02people ask sometimes you know why why do
- 00:12:04you do
- 00:12:06politics and and I grew up as a kid I
- 00:12:08would sit on the floor along with my
- 00:12:10cousin BBE with my dad and and bib's Mom
- 00:12:14my theonia and she
- 00:12:16also she was also imprisoned and
- 00:12:19tortured in Cuba and we would sit and
- 00:12:22sit and listen to them tell stories yeah
- 00:12:24and all I ever wanted to do from when I
- 00:12:26was three four five years old was was be
- 00:12:28a freedom fighter
- 00:12:29I mean it was it's inspiring because
- 00:12:33what they said and still say and they're
- 00:12:35both still going strong is is look
- 00:12:37if the only thing that prevents us from
- 00:12:40tyranny is having good people in office
- 00:12:43who will fight for our freedoms and so I
- 00:12:46got to tell you today I I literally jump
- 00:12:48out of bed every day because I I look at
- 00:12:50the US Senate and I think it is
- 00:12:52basically the Roman Coliseum and and you
- 00:12:55strap on some armor and you grab a
- 00:12:57battle ax and and you go fight the Barb
- 00:12:59Varan and and that is that that's an
- 00:13:01amazing opportunity I I feel blessed and
- 00:13:05fortunate every day you are in Arena do
- 00:13:08you think it's become we were talking
- 00:13:09with ro cona congressman from California
- 00:13:12earlier uh today and we talked about how
- 00:13:16there might be good policy put forth by
- 00:13:18one of the two parties but the other
- 00:13:20party's intention is always to get more
- 00:13:24seats get more attention get more votes
- 00:13:26and hurt the other party so we end up
- 00:13:28having conflict over policy do you feel
- 00:13:31like there's too much of that in DC and
- 00:13:33a lot of people talk about the you know
- 00:13:35everything has become too politicized as
- 00:13:37opposed to you know I always think about
- 00:13:39the show I love the show the westwing
- 00:13:40and he always talks about the great
- 00:13:41debate you know like we never have the
- 00:13:42great debate anymore we don't talk about
- 00:13:44the fundamental you know policy
- 00:13:46decisions we talk about the Republicans
- 00:13:48said this and so and so it gets personal
- 00:13:50and it gets political as opposed to like
- 00:13:52let's all take our hats off and talk
- 00:13:53about what's the right thing for the
- 00:13:54country Doge being a great example in my
- 00:13:56opinion but I'd love to hear your point
- 00:13:58of view on how things operate in DC
- 00:14:00today well well listen I I agree with
- 00:14:02your point at the outset which is that
- 00:14:04we need to talk to each other um I worry
- 00:14:07that we are too polarized and and
- 00:14:11tribalize that the left only listens to
- 00:14:14left-wing media the right listens to
- 00:14:15right-wing media anyone who disagrees
- 00:14:17you scream at them uh the the sense of
- 00:14:21community and and that we used to have
- 00:14:23has been
- 00:14:24badly badly unraveled you know on social
- 00:14:28media if someone agrees with you you
- 00:14:29unfriend them and and we're all in this
- 00:14:31little Echo chain but we're all Patriots
- 00:14:33is the sad part all Americans all
- 00:14:35Americans but we're we're living in
- 00:14:37alternate realities and and so look what
- 00:14:40y'all are doing is really important I'm
- 00:14:41grateful for this podcast we got to talk
- 00:14:43to each other um I do a podcast every
- 00:14:46week called verdict with Ted Cruz we've
- 00:14:48got about a million unique listeners
- 00:14:50that listen to the verdict podcast and
- 00:14:52we do it Monday Wednesday and Friday
- 00:14:54every week my podcast is beating CNN
- 00:14:58yeah it's incredible and I think the
- 00:14:59reason is the same reason people listen
- 00:15:01to you guys because you're actually
- 00:15:02talking about issues and you're not just
- 00:15:04screaming at each other you know it's
- 00:15:06it's not Jerry Springer go grab a a
- 00:15:08chair and fling it at somebody but it's
- 00:15:11have a real and substantive conversation
- 00:15:14and I'll tell you one of the things that
- 00:15:15I've done and enjoyed is I've taken the
- 00:15:17podcast on the road to college
- 00:15:19campuses and so couple what has that
- 00:15:21been like well for example we did one at
- 00:15:24at Yale a couple years ago and had about
- 00:15:27700 students come out and I know how the
- 00:15:29reaction would be and interestingly
- 00:15:32enough about a third of the students
- 00:15:33were left of center and and and I know
- 00:15:36that because it was right after kataji
- 00:15:37Brown Jackson was confirmed and I made a
- 00:15:40reference to that and about a third of
- 00:15:42the room began cheering and and I
- 00:15:44stopped and I said hey look the fact
- 00:15:46that you're cheering at that shows that
- 00:15:48obviously we're coming from different
- 00:15:50places on the political Spectrum I said
- 00:15:52I want to thank you especially for
- 00:15:53coming here uh because you may not agree
- 00:15:56with me on on everything or even most
- 00:15:59things yeah but but thank you for coming
- 00:16:01and being part of a conversation and so
- 00:16:03we did it's about 90 minutes of all Q&A
- 00:16:05and and we had a rule we said if if you
- 00:16:07have a hostile question if you have an
- 00:16:09antagonistic question come to the front
- 00:16:12of the line and we spent 90 minutes
- 00:16:14having a real conversation afterwards I
- 00:16:17I went out with an orthodox Rabbi on
- 00:16:19campus and and we got a drink and he
- 00:16:21said he said Ted you know I've been
- 00:16:23working on Yale's
- 00:16:24campus for decades he said this is the
- 00:16:28biggest group of students I've seen have
- 00:16:31a positive civil constructive
- 00:16:33conversation on conservative ideas he
- 00:16:35said in 20 years there's something about
- 00:16:38the podcast format where you're taking a
- 00:16:40little bit of time you're not rushed in
- 00:16:41six or seven minutes like you are on the
- 00:16:43weekly shows where I see you all the
- 00:16:44time uh and and that's sparring yeah and
- 00:16:47you're just trying to get a message out
- 00:16:49in three minutes five minutes but here
- 00:16:50you know you can open it up maybe listen
- 00:16:52to each other invite guests in with
- 00:16:53different opinions learn something uh
- 00:16:56with the specifically the immigration
- 00:16:57issue which seems to be the one that's
- 00:16:59tearing us apart a whole bunch there's
- 00:17:01so much consensus hey we we want the
- 00:17:02board to close we want it legal but we
- 00:17:04also want to bring in a certain number
- 00:17:06of people and we want a system and uh
- 00:17:08you know I did my research on this and
- 00:17:10places that have consensus like Canada
- 00:17:12uh Japan Australia New Zealand just they
- 00:17:15they seem to understand that you need to
- 00:17:17match immigration to the reality of
- 00:17:21unemployment and which jobs you need but
- 00:17:24the one criticism I have of politicians
- 00:17:26which I think you're one of um sadly
- 00:17:28iest charge yeah is you you you all
- 00:17:31don't talk about it in numbers we need
- 00:17:34this many nurses we need this many
- 00:17:35doctors we need this many construction
- 00:17:37people we have 4% unemployment record
- 00:17:40great job uh to our politicians and
- 00:17:42helping that out um you know we can
- 00:17:44bring in two million people this year
- 00:17:46hey if it goes up to 5% we're going to
- 00:17:47bring in 1.5 I I wish that the
- 00:17:50discussion could be more granular and
- 00:17:52with numbers and you guys could actually
- 00:17:53say it's not 500 it's 450 because if we
- 00:17:56were in a business decision here and we
- 00:17:58do business together and we say hey we
- 00:17:59have to deploy these resources to get
- 00:18:01this outcome but it's so contentious and
- 00:18:04polarized and not fact and number based
- 00:18:07why is that on this issue that you guys
- 00:18:09can't just put some numbers on paper so
- 00:18:12well look there there are a lot of
- 00:18:13numbers that matter intensely let's
- 00:18:14start at one where you talked about low
- 00:18:16unemployment as you know that number can
- 00:18:18be deceptive because we also have among
- 00:18:20the lowest labor force participation
- 00:18:22we've ever had 62% right now and so
- 00:18:24there are millions that have just
- 00:18:26dropped out of the labor force
- 00:18:27altogether they're not measuring in in
- 00:18:29Topline unemployment but it's still a
- 00:18:31real challenge we have healthy young
- 00:18:34adults who should be working and who are
- 00:18:36not working why aren't they in your mind
- 00:18:38is it because they have the resources to
- 00:18:40not do that um look I think it and I
- 00:18:42think it varies state by state but I
- 00:18:44think when you have a welfare state
- 00:18:45where you get paid for not working it's
- 00:18:48bad incentive people end up not working
- 00:18:49and the statistics are really crushing
- 00:18:52that if anyone doesn't work for a year
- 00:18:55the odds of their going back to the
- 00:18:57workforce drop precipitously that once
- 00:19:00someone gets the habit of dependency I
- 00:19:04I've said a bunch of times you know I I
- 00:19:06try to think of of every policy from the
- 00:19:09perspective of easing the means of
- 00:19:10ascent up the economic ladder and I
- 00:19:13think about you know my dad when when he
- 00:19:14was a teenage kid in Austin washing
- 00:19:17dishes thank God some well-meaning
- 00:19:20liberal didn't come to him and and say
- 00:19:22Rafael let me take care of you right
- 00:19:24totally just stay home let me send you a
- 00:19:26government check don't work so hard at
- 00:19:28and and it's utterly destructive it it
- 00:19:30breaks your your self-respect your
- 00:19:33individual responsibility but it comes
- 00:19:36from an empathetic Place Center Senator
- 00:19:38so and and and I know this like in you
- 00:19:40know in kind of a a liberal setting you
- 00:19:43see people in need you want to help them
- 00:19:44and you use government as a tool to help
- 00:19:47people in need and the fundamental issue
- 00:19:49is that in many cases that creates an
- 00:19:50incentive model that makes it very
- 00:19:52difficult for that solution for that
- 00:19:54situation to find a solution on its own
- 00:19:56a market solution and over time it gets
- 00:19:59bigger and bigger and bigger and you
- 00:20:01have cascading effects that I believe
- 00:20:03we're now realizing in this country with
- 00:20:04what I estimated somewhere between 40 to
- 00:20:0650% of people that are employed in this
- 00:20:09country employed by government or
- 00:20:11government um service providers and
- 00:20:13you're right that much of it is not from
- 00:20:15ill will and and and but we do need to
- 00:20:18have a real conversation about what
- 00:20:20works to lift people into prosperity and
- 00:20:23and by the way all of us know this in
- 00:20:24our own life if if your kid let's say
- 00:20:27you have a kindergarten who's struggling
- 00:20:28with math there's not a one of us who
- 00:20:31would do our kids math homework y we
- 00:20:33know that's not helping them that that
- 00:20:35if your daughter doesn't learn to do
- 00:20:38arithmetic it's going to hurt her for
- 00:20:40the rest of her life so you've got to
- 00:20:41work through that problem with her even
- 00:20:43if itd be easier for you just to finish
- 00:20:45it for right we know that in our lives
- 00:20:48um you know the old adage of give a man
- 00:20:50a fish you feed him for a day teach a
- 00:20:51man to fish you feed him for a lifetime
- 00:20:53right we know that with people we love
- 00:20:57but yet when it comes to public public
- 00:20:59policy you have a lot of people who
- 00:21:01don't think about it more broadly I'll
- 00:21:02say back in
- 00:21:032017 I I did three different CNN Town
- 00:21:07Hall debates with Bernie Sanders and
- 00:21:10listen I like Bernie because he is an
- 00:21:12Unapologetic socialist yeah and I'm an
- 00:21:15apologetic
- 00:21:16capitalist and we had 90-minute Town
- 00:21:18Hall debates on on which system was
- 00:21:21better for maximizing human prosperity
- 00:21:23and abundance yep and we didn't insult
- 00:21:26each other neither of us called each
- 00:21:27other a son of a [Β __Β ]
- 00:21:29we talked about the facts and and and
- 00:21:31I'll point out something let's take
- 00:21:32socialized medicine it's interesting the
- 00:21:35as The Advocates of socialized medicine
- 00:21:37when I pointed out all of the problems
- 00:21:40socialized medicine produces in every
- 00:21:42country in which it's been implemented
- 00:21:43the United Kingdom
- 00:21:44Canada Bernie's answer was well it
- 00:21:47wouldn't be that way here so the reality
- 00:21:49would not be here every year about
- 00:21:5150,000 Canadians come to America on what
- 00:21:55they call medical tourism because they
- 00:21:56can't get the medical care they need in
- 00:21:58Canada
- 00:21:59and I will suggest to you a question
- 00:22:00particularly for those of y'all that are
- 00:22:02are
- 00:22:03Californians that I love asking
- 00:22:05Advocates of socialized
- 00:22:07medicine why didn't California adopt it
- 00:22:10right you've got a Democrat Governor
- 00:22:12you've got a Democrat super majority
- 00:22:14legislature there's no constitutional
- 00:22:15impediment California could adopt
- 00:22:17socialized medicine today yep right it's
- 00:22:19not the mean old Republicans that are
- 00:22:22stopping them and as you know the
- 00:22:23legislature looked at it and realized it
- 00:22:25would bankrupt them by the way Vermont
- 00:22:27Bernie's home state they could adopt it
- 00:22:30and the reason you don't see California
- 00:22:33or New York or Illinois or Vermont or
- 00:22:34any blue state in America adopt
- 00:22:35socialized medicine it wouldn't work
- 00:22:37doesn't work it wouldn't work and people
- 00:22:39would flee their state and so their
- 00:22:41answer is we want to do it to everyone
- 00:22:44in the entire country so you can't flee
- 00:22:46unless you're willing to leave America
- 00:22:47you're stuck and I think what's
- 00:22:48challenging Senator is that then you
- 00:22:50have compromises that get you to a point
- 00:22:52where the federal government has a big
- 00:22:54enough role in healthcare my opinion is
- 00:22:56much of the inflation in healthare costs
- 00:22:58arises from the federal government's
- 00:23:00role in the same way that the federal
- 00:23:01government has a role in student loans
- 00:23:03that has driven up the cost of education
- 00:23:05and the federal government has a role in
- 00:23:06providing loans for housing has also
- 00:23:08driven up the cost of housing educ
- 00:23:10education across the board dists the
- 00:23:12free market but the empathetic solution
- 00:23:15is we need to provide access to those
- 00:23:16who can't get it and then at the end of
- 00:23:18the day it inflates the cost of all of
- 00:23:20those services and ultimately the
- 00:23:21quality of the services the roads and
- 00:23:23I'll give you the anecdote real quick
- 00:23:24yeah my brother lives in England they
- 00:23:26just had a child he and his partner and
- 00:23:28went to the delivery room and they
- 00:23:29couldn't get a bed for lab she was in
- 00:23:32labor they could not get a bed to have
- 00:23:34the baby I think it took them 36 to 72
- 00:23:36hours to actually get into a bed while
- 00:23:38she was in labor it was the most insane
- 00:23:40he's calling me he can't get a bed it
- 00:23:41was I'm like you're living in the
- 00:23:43fraking UK this is supposed to be one of
- 00:23:45the wealthiest Nations on Earth that's
- 00:23:46the outcome of socialized medicine and
- 00:23:48along the way you get the inflationary
- 00:23:50effects that we're dealing with in the
- 00:23:51United States today I'm with you on
- 00:23:55sorry let's uh you're the quarterback
- 00:23:57okay quarterback the next two weeks of
- 00:24:00the Trump
- 00:24:02Administration well on Monday we're
- 00:24:04going to see a flurry of executive
- 00:24:05orders I think it'll be in the
- 00:24:06neighborhood 100 executive orders I'm
- 00:24:08optimistic about them that's the number
- 00:24:10they're talking about wow it it it's
- 00:24:11going to be in that neighborhood
- 00:24:13shocking off and I actually I'm I'm
- 00:24:16pretty happy about that now look will I
- 00:24:18agree with all 100 I don't know my guess
- 00:24:20is I'll agree with the vast majority of
- 00:24:22them but I don't know everything that's
- 00:24:23in there so we'll see and in some ways
- 00:24:25it'll just make it almost impossible for
- 00:24:27the Democrats to react because where do
- 00:24:28you focus yes and and and Jamal that's
- 00:24:32actually a point you know I think back
- 00:24:34to so my wife Heidi and I met on the
- 00:24:372000 George W Bush campaign and and so
- 00:24:39we both served uh as young people in the
- 00:24:42Bush Administration and and I I think
- 00:24:44there is a Quantum of outrage and I call
- 00:24:47it the arsonic Quantum of outrage if you
- 00:24:50remember the beginning of bush
- 00:24:5143 one of the first things he did is his
- 00:24:55EPA revoked a rule on arsenic and for
- 00:24:58like 6 weeks the media saturated the
- 00:25:01airwaves with the evil Republicans want
- 00:25:03to poison our children with Arsenic and
- 00:25:05I mean it was it dominated forever and
- 00:25:08they beat The Living Daylights out of
- 00:25:09him for it now look Monday when you get
- 00:25:11a 100 executive orders I think that's
- 00:25:14how much outrage there
- 00:25:15ish and that arsonic Quantum of outrage
- 00:25:19will be directed at everything
- 00:25:21smeared which makes it very hard for
- 00:25:23them to oppose anything coherently and
- 00:25:27directly and gives an opportunity I hope
- 00:25:30for this Administration what I'd like to
- 00:25:32see is really
- 00:25:34delivering on the Mandate of this
- 00:25:36election the outcomes in November let's
- 00:25:38ask that what were yeah what were the if
- 00:25:40you had to distill what are your
- 00:25:42specific takeaways as the Mandate in
- 00:25:44priority so number one secure the border
- 00:25:46and I believe that'll start on January
- 00:25:4820th it will start by ending Catch and
- 00:25:50Release so that when people are
- 00:25:52apprehended they are detained and
- 00:25:53they're sent back to where they came
- 00:25:55from yeah um I think that will be
- 00:25:58followed up by going and arresting
- 00:26:00criminal illegal aliens going and
- 00:26:03arresting murderers and rapists and
- 00:26:04child molesters and G and gang bangers I
- 00:26:07think all of that will roll out very
- 00:26:09very fast I think there is also a
- 00:26:11mandate to end the federal government's
- 00:26:13war on energy on Texas oil and gas um
- 00:26:17and that will lower prices at the gas
- 00:26:19pump at the grocery store every Bill
- 00:26:22people are paying and I think if you
- 00:26:24look at the top two issues in this
- 00:26:26election uh it it was illegal
- 00:26:29immigration and safety and it was
- 00:26:31inflation in the economy I think we will
- 00:26:34also
- 00:26:37see a lessening of the job killing
- 00:26:40regulations on small businesses a return
- 00:26:42to thriving booming economic growth what
- 00:26:45would those be look there are a host of
- 00:26:47them energy is is is the easy example
- 00:26:50where where the the Biden
- 00:26:51administrations put in over 90 different
- 00:26:54regulations and executive orders all
- 00:26:56designed to drive up the cost of energy
- 00:26:58right so the input gets higher and
- 00:27:00everybody suffers got it and so I expect
- 00:27:02I expect pretty much all of those to be
- 00:27:05reversed hydrocarbon and then subsidies
- 00:27:07for quote green
- 00:27:09energy look I I think on energy we ought
- 00:27:12to pursue all of the above uh beyond
- 00:27:15that I think I think there is also a
- 00:27:17mandate on the economic side the 2017
- 00:27:21Trump tax cuts are expiring this year
- 00:27:23we're going to extend them my hope is we
- 00:27:25make them bigger and Bolder that's going
- 00:27:27to take some time we'll do that through
- 00:27:29What's called the reconciliation process
- 00:27:32and then on on foreign
- 00:27:34policy I think under Biden we have
- 00:27:38abandoned and alienated our friends and
- 00:27:40we've shown weakness and appeasement to
- 00:27:42our enemies I think that will stop right
- 00:27:44on Monday as well Senator you just said
- 00:27:46five things but what you didn't say was
- 00:27:48Doge so cutting taxes there's an
- 00:27:51inflation problem there's no way you're
- 00:27:52cutting taxes and not cutting government
- 00:27:54spending and not tampering inflation
- 00:27:56down don't we have to cut federal
- 00:27:59spending how important is Doge how real
- 00:28:01is it is it a marketing gimmick from
- 00:28:02your point of view how much can actually
- 00:28:04be done is it a real you know is is this
- 00:28:07kind of require legislative Authority
- 00:28:09and it's going to be a longer form
- 00:28:10process or is there going to be a lot of
- 00:28:12very quick action so and I'm happy to
- 00:28:15answer that directly let me just say one
- 00:28:17thing you just said there um with
- 00:28:19respect is incorrect yes you said
- 00:28:21there's no way we're cutting taxes and
- 00:28:23not cutting spending and having
- 00:28:25inflation stay down and I just saying
- 00:28:28that's objectively false because that's
- 00:28:30exactly what happened in the first Trump
- 00:28:31term which is the 2017 tax cuts CBO had
- 00:28:35these apocalyptic projection y about
- 00:28:38you're saying tax revenue grow went up
- 00:28:39as the as the economy grow tax revenue
- 00:28:41went up every single year after we cut
- 00:28:44the taxes the revenue from the federal
- 00:28:45government went up so we cut taxes sadly
- 00:28:49we did not cut spending yeah um I tried
- 00:28:52mightily to cut spending but we did not
- 00:28:54have the votes to do it and inflation
- 00:28:57still stayed down so the econom is
- 00:28:59booming yeah you can turn things around
- 00:29:01look Doge but is there a deficit mandate
- 00:29:04so I am excited about Doge um Elon is a
- 00:29:08good friend I admire the hell out of him
- 00:29:10I'm thrilled that he's a
- 00:29:12Texan um you know I've joked with Elon
- 00:29:15that that that he doesn't just think
- 00:29:17outside the box he doesn't know there is
- 00:29:18a damn box that that's a great thing um
- 00:29:23now Elon calls me periodically going
- 00:29:25what all right what the hell is this
- 00:29:26government thing how does this work this
- 00:29:27way and I'm I'm trying to give whatever
- 00:29:30guidance I can on that but I think how
- 00:29:33you deal with uh a
- 00:29:38disruptor uh in government is going to
- 00:29:40be an interesting challenge VC is is
- 00:29:43very smart very
- 00:29:45creative I will say a couple of
- 00:29:48challenges right now look I'm excited
- 00:29:50about Doge I want to see some big bold
- 00:29:52creative ideas I'm going to give you two
- 00:29:55warning
- 00:29:56signs number one the phrase waste Fraud
- 00:29:59and Abuse MH anytime someone talks about
- 00:30:01waste Fraud and Abuse they don't really
- 00:30:03want to cut government spending you know
- 00:30:05why because there is no waste Fraud and
- 00:30:07Abuse caucus there's no one that says
- 00:30:09I'm for the waste so it's the easy place
- 00:30:12to go we'll cut the waste if you
- 00:30:15actually cut real government spending
- 00:30:18there is always always always a
- 00:30:20constituency who's pissed off who likes
- 00:30:22the thing they're getting totally and so
- 00:30:24you have lots of politicians who say
- 00:30:26they're going to lose they're going to
- 00:30:26lose their votes right somebody will be
- 00:30:29matad that's right and and so that is a
- 00:30:32challenge I will say secondly at least
- 00:30:35in the first term Donald Trump did not
- 00:30:38campaign as a small government
- 00:30:40conservative and he did not govern as a
- 00:30:43small government conservative and in
- 00:30:44fact I I will relay a story at at the
- 00:30:47end of the first term you remember we're
- 00:30:50in covid and and the government is in
- 00:30:52the business of sending out checks and
- 00:30:54more checks and more checks to people
- 00:30:55all over the country andum TR wanted the
- 00:30:58checks to be even bigger and a lot of
- 00:31:00the folks in the White House they asked
- 00:31:02me they said Ted can can you go try to
- 00:31:03talk him talk him down from this Lynch y
- 00:31:06that's a tough job so so I went on Air
- 00:31:08Force One and and I'm sitting there with
- 00:31:11the president I'm trying to make the
- 00:31:12case that we don't need these gigantic
- 00:31:14uh stimulus checks and he goes Ted and I
- 00:31:18get the back of the hand he goes Ted no
- 00:31:21one ever lost an election by spending
- 00:31:23too much money I said yeah but they did
- 00:31:25bankrupt the
- 00:31:26country so I did not succeed then well
- 00:31:30you know what you should have done you
- 00:31:31should have asked him to keep the same
- 00:31:33number but just make the check larger
- 00:31:34and the signature bigger that's a good
- 00:31:36idea look I I'll go with it he likes are
- 00:31:38you a small government conservative very
- 00:31:40much so and is what percent if there if
- 00:31:43no one was going to be able to run for
- 00:31:45reelection what percent of Congress do
- 00:31:47you think would support a massive
- 00:31:49reduction in government agencies how
- 00:31:52much of this really is driven by this
- 00:31:53kind of I got to get reelected so look
- 00:31:55it's it's a good versus what I versus
- 00:31:57what principes tell me yeah listen I I
- 00:31:59am also a passionate advocate of term
- 00:32:01limits so so I have
- 00:32:03introduced uh in every Congress a
- 00:32:05constitutional amendment that would
- 00:32:06limit Senators to two terms limit house
- 00:32:08members to three terms yeah I think term
- 00:32:10limits would change that dynamic in a
- 00:32:12very significant way right and the
- 00:32:14career politicians in both parties
- 00:32:15oppose it um look on any big spending
- 00:32:19bill you unfortunately have a bipartisan
- 00:32:22Coalition in favor of spending you have
- 00:32:23essentially all the Democrats and about
- 00:32:26half the Republicans there about 20 of
- 00:32:29us who will vote against a trillion
- 00:32:31dollar spending Bill and and and we are
- 00:32:34frequently begging our colleagues and to
- 00:32:37be honest I don't think we will ever see
- 00:32:39real spending
- 00:32:41restraint without strong presidential
- 00:32:43leadership which means it will never
- 00:32:45come from a Joe Biden or KLA
- 00:32:47Harris and look if if Elon and beet
- 00:32:50convince president Trump that he's going
- 00:32:52to lean in aggressively on on cutting
- 00:32:54spending great but that hadn't happened
- 00:32:56so far what would it take for for the
- 00:32:58voters to eventually get there because
- 00:32:59it would require the voters backing a
- 00:33:01candidate with that message and it seems
- 00:33:02like no one sees that because what
- 00:33:04everyone sees is I want to get X and the
- 00:33:06only way I get X is if I get the
- 00:33:07government to do X for me yeah look it
- 00:33:09it varies it takes electing strong
- 00:33:12leaders so I elections matter and and I
- 00:33:15engage so so I think I've probably
- 00:33:18campaigned for more candidates for
- 00:33:20Senate house and and governorship than
- 00:33:22any Republican in the country I mean I
- 00:33:24travel all over the country I endorse
- 00:33:26candidates and I follow the old Bill
- 00:33:28Buckley role which is I support the most
- 00:33:31Conservative candidate who can win yeah
- 00:33:34and that varies look look a candidate
- 00:33:36who can win in Texas is different than a
- 00:33:38candidate who can win in Maine yeah
- 00:33:39right and and so but but I can say the
- 00:33:43problem is you get I can tell you in
- 00:33:45Texas I mean when I ran 2012 I ran for
- 00:33:49Senate I'd never been elected before
- 00:33:51yeah never been elected to nothing yeah
- 00:33:54literally the last thing I was elected
- 00:33:56to was student counsil
- 00:33:58by the way Cham you may not remember
- 00:33:59this you actually wrote me a check that
- 00:34:01race I was going to tell that St we
- 00:34:02looked it up which because we were
- 00:34:04together in Utah y Peter teal had an
- 00:34:07event or he does his thing and we had a
- 00:34:10breakfast and uh Ted was surrounded by
- 00:34:15sort of a handful of us who were
- 00:34:17speaking to him and then what I would
- 00:34:18say is like every
- 00:34:20traditional Democrat from Central castle
- 00:34:24and he went through the firing squad and
- 00:34:25he came out the other side and I thought
- 00:34:27wow this this is really great and so
- 00:34:29then I I was I was very happy to donate
- 00:34:32well I I was you you were a demned donor
- 00:34:33back then I was a demned donor but I but
- 00:34:35see here's the thing like and I think
- 00:34:37what you're getting what I think what
- 00:34:39the senator speaks to which is what I
- 00:34:41agree with
- 00:34:42is ideology matters and so when you make
- 00:34:45decisions about how you think the
- 00:34:46country should
- 00:34:48run you should stay loyal to that and I
- 00:34:51think what happens instead is people
- 00:34:54stay loyal to a party Y and it's the
- 00:34:56minute you do that that the whole thing
- 00:34:57breaks and this is what's broken and I
- 00:34:59think what the great thing that Donald
- 00:35:01Trump did was he basically conducted a
- 00:35:04hostile takeover of the Republican Party
- 00:35:05undoubtedly yeah and then committed subu
- 00:35:09and that's the most important thing that
- 00:35:10happens I mean are reset you don't have
- 00:35:14to go and kick the COA ring what will
- 00:35:16they say what will all this
- 00:35:17infrastructure say what does Sor say all
- 00:35:20of that is done the whole thing's
- 00:35:22flipped over hey Senator you that's very
- 00:35:24powerful I you had an anecdote from me
- 00:35:25two nights ago I don't know if you're
- 00:35:26willing to share it about a convers
- 00:35:27regarding Denmark and
- 00:35:29Greenland do you want to tell us what
- 00:35:31you think uh so happens here look my
- 00:35:35view on Denmark and Greenland so I did a
- 00:35:37podcast two weeks ago on Denmark
- 00:35:40Greenland and Canada and I did all all
- 00:35:42three of them on my verdict podcast and
- 00:35:45and I put them in a spectrum let's start
- 00:35:47with Canada I think the president's
- 00:35:50Canada remarks we're just trolling I
- 00:35:52think he was just screwing with Trudeau
- 00:35:53I think he was sitting at the table and
- 00:35:55decided you know why are you even
- 00:35:57country you ought to be a state you
- 00:35:59should be a governor that I send jcal
- 00:36:00texts like that all the
- 00:36:02time you know I would have paid frankly
- 00:36:04to be sitting at that table to see
- 00:36:06Trudeau's face in fact um look it was
- 00:36:09reminiscent if you remember in the
- 00:36:112016 uh campaign on the debate stage
- 00:36:14where Trump turned Rand Paul was at the
- 00:36:16end and he's like why are you even on
- 00:36:18this stage and what is it with your hair
- 00:36:20yeah I I mean it was the same sort of
- 00:36:21comment that was just just messing with
- 00:36:24him yeah um I put that in one and by the
- 00:36:27way way that may be the most epic troll
- 00:36:29of all time because I think that
- 00:36:31literally pushed Trudeau into resign
- 00:36:33crazy huh I mean it it's a fair why
- 00:36:35would he not why would he do that go to
- 00:36:36Maro I mean such a stupid thing to do he
- 00:36:38just should have been like yeah you know
- 00:36:40we're our own sovereign country Banks
- 00:36:42well he was already I think we he go he
- 00:36:44likes he likes to go with the trend so
- 00:36:45that was the trend yeah that's what
- 00:36:46happens when you're a weather v um I
- 00:36:48will say I I couldn't resist tweeting
- 00:36:50and said you know trau lasted really
- 00:36:52long for a son of Fidel
- 00:36:54Castle which wa
- 00:36:58no no no keep telling us
- 00:36:59about can yeah denark Greenland um
- 00:37:03Greenland on the other hand I think is a
- 00:37:05very serious policy proposal and and I
- 00:37:08think there are you know Trump mentioned
- 00:37:10this in the first term and a lot of
- 00:37:11people dismissed it oh this is just
- 00:37:13Trump talking wacky yeah but I think
- 00:37:15there are
- 00:37:16enormous National Security and economic
- 00:37:19reasons why acquiring Greenland makes a
- 00:37:21ton of sense and you look at Greenland's
- 00:37:24location on the Arctic it has incred
- 00:37:27inedibly prime location on the Arctic if
- 00:37:29from a national security perspective God
- 00:37:32forbid we ever get in a shooting war
- 00:37:34with China or with Russia icbms are
- 00:37:38coming right over the Arctic right and
- 00:37:39Greenland is a prime location to deal
- 00:37:43with that we're also seeing more
- 00:37:44shipping lanes coming in and around the
- 00:37:46Arctic and China and Russia are both
- 00:37:48competing for prized prized access there
- 00:37:53Greenland makes an enormous sense from
- 00:37:54that perspective it also makes an
- 00:37:56enormous perspective from critic
- 00:37:57minerals and rare earth minerals they
- 00:37:59have vast amounts uh and so what I said
- 00:38:03is look I think we should pursue this
- 00:38:05seriously I'll tell you I had a
- 00:38:06conversation this week with the Danish
- 00:38:08ambassador to the United States um and
- 00:38:11and look Denmark's a little freaked out
- 00:38:12by all this conversation Y and and I'll
- 00:38:15tell you what I told the Ambassador I
- 00:38:16said listen Denmark is our friend you
- 00:38:18our Ally you will continue to be our
- 00:38:20friend and Ally but friends and allies
- 00:38:23can have conversations we can have and
- 00:38:25and the Ambassador said well well
- 00:38:26Greenland's not for sale I said that's
- 00:38:27fine everything's for sale we're going
- 00:38:30to have a conversation and and by the
- 00:38:32way if you maintain that one of the
- 00:38:34things this has produced is a growing
- 00:38:36independence movement in Greenland
- 00:38:37totally and if you do nothing you may
- 00:38:39end up getting nothing for Greenland
- 00:38:41because they break off on the Run
- 00:38:42totally right now look for it to happen
- 00:38:46I think you would probably have to have
- 00:38:47a referendum on Greenland yep I find it
- 00:38:51quite plausible that the greenlanders
- 00:38:53about 50,000 of them yeah would say wait
- 00:38:55a second I get to be an American they P
- 00:38:57just showed positive results he just did
- 00:38:58a survey there I mean to to become an
- 00:39:00American is in many ways the greatest
- 00:39:02gift we can give anyone on planet Earth
- 00:39:05totally and the billions in investment
- 00:39:08if Greenland became an American
- 00:39:09territory the difference it would make
- 00:39:11for greenlanders well Senator we could
- 00:39:12pay 200 billion dollars for the
- 00:39:14territory to Denmark they would their
- 00:39:16federal debt or their National debts
- 00:39:17about 150 billion they'd have a 50
- 00:39:19billion Surplus they could build a
- 00:39:20pension plan around want that's why we
- 00:39:22have you could spend another you could
- 00:39:23spend another 10 billion to put everyone
- 00:39:25in a great situation for the rest of
- 00:39:26their life a resident of Greenland and
- 00:39:28that becomes an American territory and
- 00:39:30be like a whole new philosophy for us I
- 00:39:32think we just go right to 60 States
- 00:39:34let's just make an open offer no but so
- 00:39:35so it's and and yeah and sorry how does
- 00:39:37the president of the administration how
- 00:39:38are they going to tackle this or do you
- 00:39:39have any insights into what's going to
- 00:39:40happen here so look uh Ken Howry you
- 00:39:42guys know I know is a good friend who
- 00:39:44has been nominated the ambassador to
- 00:39:45Denmark I've talked with good friend of
- 00:39:47yeah talked with Ken just yesterday
- 00:39:48about this y um I think we need to lean
- 00:39:51in and try to negotiate both with with
- 00:39:53Denmark and Greenland um I'm certainly
- 00:39:55from the Senate going to push it but I
- 00:39:57wanted contrasted is Canada become going
- 00:39:59to become a state no but Greenland
- 00:40:01listen we acquired make it a protractor
- 00:40:04Louisiana Purchase we purchased from
- 00:40:06France Alaska we purchased from Russia I
- 00:40:08mean there's a long history of this
- 00:40:10totally Puerto Rico next let's go if
- 00:40:12they want to come on board why not well
- 00:40:14it's an American this it's a it's not a
- 00:40:17state and so Panama I view as kind of in
- 00:40:20the middle of the two right and and
- 00:40:21Panama is a little more
- 00:40:23complicated look I think Jimmy Carter
- 00:40:26giving away the Panama Canal now remains
- 00:40:29one of the most spectacularly stupid
- 00:40:31decisions a president has ever done in
- 00:40:33office I think it was profoundly harmful
- 00:40:35to US National Security interest to our
- 00:40:38economic
- 00:40:39interest that being said it's been long
- 00:40:41enough that unwinding it is really tough
- 00:40:45yeah however president Trump if you
- 00:40:47listen to what he's saying on Panama
- 00:40:49he's he's got actually some very
- 00:40:51sophisticated legal arguments that he's
- 00:40:53making number one when we gave the
- 00:40:56Panama Canal to technically sold it for
- 00:40:58a dollar uh we had a binding agreement
- 00:41:00that laid out the terms of that transfer
- 00:41:03yeah and one argument that President
- 00:41:05Trump has put forth is that Panama is in
- 00:41:09violation of that agreement because they
- 00:41:11have allowed China to effectively seize
- 00:41:13control of the canal how is that because
- 00:41:16a Chinese state-owned Enterprise owns a
- 00:41:18building on one end of the canal and on
- 00:41:21the other end of the can and should we
- 00:41:23be at a point of conflict military or
- 00:41:26other with China it's not ult to imagine
- 00:41:28those Chinese State own Enterprises
- 00:41:30using that location to try to shut down
- 00:41:33anyone traversing the sounds like they
- 00:41:35avoided the contract I that's that's a
- 00:41:37pretty powerful argument the second
- 00:41:39argument and I had breakfast this
- 00:41:40morning with with President Trump he had
- 00:41:42breakfast with all the Republican
- 00:41:43Senators two and a half hours he gets
- 00:41:45sworn in tomorrow and he spent two and a
- 00:41:47half hours stamina stream of
- 00:41:49Consciousness talking we talked about
- 00:41:51Pano he's pointing out uh the president
- 00:41:53said this morning said US Navy ships pay
- 00:41:56double
- 00:41:58what any other country's Navy ships pay
- 00:42:00right he said that that american
- 00:42:02commercial ships pay 58% more y than
- 00:42:07other nations pay look we need to drill
- 00:42:08down into those facts but on the face of
- 00:42:11it I think there's a powerful argument
- 00:42:14that that's inconsistent with the terms
- 00:42:16of the agreement and is the final
- 00:42:19outcome of this that we get total
- 00:42:21control of the Panama Canal back
- 00:42:23probably not I think that's a high lift
- 00:42:26but in many ways I think Trump is
- 00:42:27negotiating on price and I could easily
- 00:42:29see an outcome where both Navy ships and
- 00:42:32commercial ships that are American pay
- 00:42:35much much lower rates number one and
- 00:42:37number two critically that we get China
- 00:42:39the hell out of the canal and and that
- 00:42:41if we accomplish those two that would be
- 00:42:44a massive improvement from us interest
- 00:42:46have you um I'm sure you've been paying
- 00:42:48attention uh beyond the things that
- 00:42:50you've been a part of the confirmation
- 00:42:52hearings can you give us the sort of
- 00:42:54blowby blow of where you think things
- 00:42:55have gone well where there was room for
- 00:42:57improvement whether there's going to be
- 00:42:59some spotty weather ahead look I've been
- 00:43:02really happy so far um I think the array
- 00:43:06of cabinet nominees has been very very
- 00:43:08strong were there a couple that were you
- 00:43:10thought going in we have to this one
- 00:43:12will be a little bit harder than the
- 00:43:13other and well look clearly the most
- 00:43:15bumpy was Matt Gates and and they
- 00:43:16withdrew Matt Gates yeah um he was not
- 00:43:18going to get confirmed there there were
- 00:43:20multiple Republican Senators who were
- 00:43:21going to vote now right um but I will
- 00:43:24say I mean they withdrew that nomination
- 00:43:26pretty quickly was strategic they sent
- 00:43:27him up the hill to take the first two
- 00:43:29and Pam Bondi seems amazing Pam Bondi is
- 00:43:31going to be terrific she's going to get
- 00:43:32confirmed easily I think right now every
- 00:43:35Trump cabinet nominee gets confirmed
- 00:43:37that's great um Pete hegi is clearly who
- 00:43:40they're shooting at the most um I don't
- 00:43:43think they've scored real blood I I did
- 00:43:45a whole podcast on the Heth uh
- 00:43:47confirmation
- 00:43:48hearing where it spoke volumes that the
- 00:43:51Democrat virtu virtually all of the
- 00:43:53Democrat attacks were personal attacks
- 00:43:56based on Anonymous charges typically
- 00:43:58with no evidence and with no one coming
- 00:44:00forward and putting their name on it and
- 00:44:03they had virtually nothing to say about
- 00:44:04the job to which he'd been nominated and
- 00:44:06what he intends to do as the Secretary
- 00:44:08of Defense I I think
- 00:44:10that that fundamentally is a flawed
- 00:44:13strategy I so I think everyone gets
- 00:44:15through right now do you think that
- 00:44:15you'll see any Democrat
- 00:44:18Senators support any of the candidates
- 00:44:21yes um Rubio so Rubio will get 90 votes
- 00:44:25he could get north of 95 votes it'll be
- 00:44:27a huge bipartisan vote for
- 00:44:29Rubio John Radcliffe for CIA he'll get
- 00:44:32significant bipartisan votes Shan Duffy
- 00:44:35at Transportation he'll get a bunch of
- 00:44:37bipartisan votes uh Howard lutnick at
- 00:44:39Commerce my guess is he'll get
- 00:44:41bipartisan votes although he hasn't had
- 00:44:42his hearing yet so we'll see so there
- 00:44:45will certainly be some Pam Bondi I think
- 00:44:47Pam is terrific Brook Rolland Brook will
- 00:44:50get bipartisan votes part of it is all
- 00:44:52right let's take Shawn Duffy so I
- 00:44:54chaired the confirmation hearing for
- 00:44:55Shawn Duffy secretary trans
- 00:44:57Transportation it was a Love Fest why
- 00:45:00was it a Love Fest because everyone
- 00:45:03wants a bridge or a road in their state
- 00:45:05so if you're a Democrat you're like wait
- 00:45:07you're Santa Claus and you're giving out
- 00:45:08hundreds of billions of dollars I want
- 00:45:10some and so everyone wants it and so
- 00:45:13Brook Rollins at at Department of
- 00:45:14Agriculture again everyone wants stuff
- 00:45:16for a and farmers in their state so in
- 00:45:19that sort of role it's easy for it to be
- 00:45:21a Love
- 00:45:22Fest Pam Bondi even though she did very
- 00:45:25well
- 00:45:27I'd be surprised if Democrats vote for
- 00:45:29just the nature of attorney general in
- 00:45:32this politicized environment my guess is
- 00:45:35I think of the committee the D's are
- 00:45:36going to vote no but I think Pam will
- 00:45:39hold every Republican and so I I think
- 00:45:41she she gets through easily Bobby
- 00:45:43Senator I think he makes it through I
- 00:45:45spent an hour with him it'll be
- 00:45:47interesting this is I was talking with
- 00:45:49him about this W will any Democrats vote
- 00:45:51for him obviously he's been a Democrat
- 00:45:54his whole life until like 12 minutes ago
- 00:45:56they hate him and they really they do
- 00:45:58view him as a Judas for daring to to
- 00:46:01change all of us it's still look J K too
- 00:46:06you look at like red Dy number three you
- 00:46:08look at what what Bobby is doing I'm I
- 00:46:10am re what I more change before he's
- 00:46:13become AJ secretary the food system is
- 00:46:15so screwed like let him cook let's see
- 00:46:18what he can do and his willingness to
- 00:46:21take on corruption Corruption of of big
- 00:46:25pharmaceutical compan get in bed uh with
- 00:46:28big government that they perpetuate
- 00:46:30their monopolies using government power
- 00:46:32so I I talked to Bobby for example about
- 00:46:34a bill that I've I've been fighting for
- 00:46:36a long time that I call the results act
- 00:46:38the results act says that if any
- 00:46:40pharmaceutical any medical device is
- 00:46:42approved in another major developed
- 00:46:44country so approved in Canada or Japan
- 00:46:46or the EU that the FDA has 60 days to
- 00:46:49approve it here or it's deemed
- 00:46:50automatically approved by operation love
- 00:46:52it
- 00:46:53brilliant I I'm going to fight for I
- 00:46:56have been fighting for that but I think
- 00:46:57now I'll have an HHS secretary that that
- 00:46:59agrees with it and I do think if you
- 00:47:02look at these cabinet nominees the most
- 00:47:05striking characteristic of virtually all
- 00:47:07of them is that they're change agents
- 00:47:08that they're going to fundamentally
- 00:47:10disruptors and and that's exciting we
- 00:47:12need that all right listen your people
- 00:47:14have been trying to for 20 minutes but
- 00:47:18you know what let the man cook I got to
- 00:47:21tell the president our bestie Phil helm
- 00:47:24youth every time he sees you comes back
- 00:47:26to our game says what a great poker
- 00:47:28player what a gentl he drops your name I
- 00:47:31can get him on the phone right now I
- 00:47:32told him call him right now he never
- 00:47:34does it he was 100% right you are
- 00:47:36amazing great to have you on the you are
- 00:47:38tempting me with poker chips I mean
- 00:47:40we're going to get you in a game I know
- 00:47:41you don't make it to California much but
- 00:47:43when you do come play just so you know
- 00:47:44the boots play and we need scotch and a
- 00:47:46cigar and and I am perfectly happy happy
- 00:47:50maybe we'll go playing often I can't
- 00:47:51stand all these gang balls where
- 00:47:53everyone's in in tuxedos but but but but
- 00:47:55my happy place is sitting around the
- 00:47:57poker table man you're going to fation
- 00:47:59and good scotch so great to have you and
- 00:48:01uh congratulations on the big win and
- 00:48:03thank you for your service appreciate it
- 00:48:04thank you very much thanks a lot thank
- 00:48:06you that was great
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