VFTLS March 2025. Talking about the OBSBOT Tail 2 and the 5070.

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Summary

TLDRThe latest vmix Funtime live show explores live streaming updates, discusses features of new graphics cards, and previews the NAB show. The hosts emphasize their tech setup and get into the details about the new Obspot Tail 2 camera. They also respond to viewer inquiries, providing insights on products and live streaming software while highlighting preferences for Nvidia graphics cards over AMD. The live show fosters viewer interaction, sharing tech tips and addressing questions from the audience.

Takeaways

  • 🎤 Monthly live streaming tech updates.
  • 📅 NAB show from April 6-9 in Las Vegas.
  • 📷 New Obspot Tail 2 offers 4K quality.
  • 💻 Recommended Nvidia graphics cards for vMix.
  • 💬 Viewer Q&A provides interaction.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The vMix Funtime live show is back at vMix HQ, showcasing their live streaming software while discussing monthly updates. This month’s show is held earlier than usual, preparing for an early show next month. The show is streamed live on YouTube and their website, allowing viewers to participate in Q&As and giveaways. The setup includes various advanced equipment like Blackmagic cameras and a stream deck for seamless production.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The hosts discuss the latest graphics cards and whether investing in a 50xx card is worth it. They highlight the release struggles of high-end graphics cards and suggest that alternatives like the 4070 TI might offer better value for performance. They also touch upon the differences in size and weight of the new cards compared to older models, and share personal experiences with their hardware setups.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The NAB Show, scheduled for April 6-9 in Las Vegas, is discussed, with the hosts inviting attendees to visit their booth, SL 2323, in the South Hall. They recognize the logistical challenge of the South Hall's location and reminisce about their experiences at trade shows, seeking viewer opinions on their motivations for attending. The discussion also includes the comparison of their approach to announcing new features versus other companies.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    A new product from Obsbot, the Taale 2 camera, is introduced, showcasing its features compared to previous models. The hosts discuss its size improvements, battery life, and capability to achieve high-resolution video outputs. The Taale 2 is presented as a potentially economical option in the PTZ camera market, with insightful commentary on its performance relative to studio cameras.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Transitioning into a hands-on demonstration, the hosts connect the Taale 2 camera through HDMI to highlight its quality and versatility in streaming setups. They also compare its effectiveness against a high-end studio camera, encouraging viewers to consider whether the Obsbot cameras meet their needs for quality and cost.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    As the live show enters the Q&A section, the hosts address various questions, including technical specifications and compatibility of graphics cards with vMix software. They provide insights into their preferences for Nvidia cards due to their superior encoding capabilities, while also addressing inquiries about potential future models in the series.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:27

    The episode wraps up with engaging viewer questions ranging from technical setups to AI integration in vMix. The hosts remain authentic and humorous, inviting further engagement in future shows and teasing sneak peeks of upcoming camera technology and merchandise, including mouse pads featuring Australian wildlife.

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Video Q&A

  • What is this show about?

    It's a monthly live stream discussing updates in live streaming technology and product reviews.

  • Where will the NAB show take place?

    The NAB show will be held in Las Vegas from April 6th to 9th.

  • What is the expected quality of the new Obspot Tail 2 camera?

    The Obspot Tail 2 camera offers 4K resolution and good audio quality with new features supporting optical zoom.

  • Should I buy a 50 Series graphics card?

    It's suggested to consider other cards as they may offer better value for the price.

  • Does vMix support AMD graphics cards?

    Generally, vMix focuses on Nvidia GPUs and does not recommend AMD for high-quality encoding.

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    2025 yep it's come about pretty quickly
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    and this is a slightly earlier show this
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    Reason to the the show it's more like
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    way so we kind of have the actual
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    information I I get a little bit
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    frustrated sometimes when it's an 8 Hour
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    stream and there's 20 minutes of content
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    so not that there's much content in our
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    30 minute show but
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    some of your uh pressing questions and
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    production PC which is running vmix it's
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    second all right and that is the entire
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    show setup once again again uh for those
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    of you that are new for those that have
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    been around for a little while that is a
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    fairly typical one for us let's go to
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    our
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    first thing which is
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    [Music]
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    [Music]
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    newss all right so we're going to do
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    some news um Heath has decided that he
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    wants to I think you might need to fix
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    up the the lens on that one um but Heath
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    has decided that he wants to do some
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    vlogging some behind the scenes of The
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    Show for some reason so that's what he's
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    going to be doing in various periods
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    throughout the uh the show today there
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    we go that's that's what's wrong we need
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    to fix better that's why it's not
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    working for anyway so if we're in the
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    new section I don't know why he's doing
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    this but he is uh so we have should you
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    buy a 50xx card if you can see behind me
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    that's where we post the news thing so
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    we basically we send out a um images to
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    a bird dog play that then display on our
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    very cheap uh TV monitor and for those
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    that watched last month we used a PTZ
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    camera a zed cam I'm not going to say Z
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    CU people got upset Zed cam camera PTZ Z
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    Cam and uh you could actually see the
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    brand of the U the television last month
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    but you can't this month so we're not
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    going to diverge divulge which uh brand
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    that was you can watch last month's for
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    uh it is not a Prem brand we'll say that
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    yeah there you go anyway uh so I bought
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    a 570 did you I did much to the Su of
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    everybody in the office it's just the
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    empty box but this is the box your own
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    so basically the reason that I did so
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    we we decided Well I decided personally
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    that we should have one in the office
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    when they first launched you couldn't
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    buy them like across the board 507s 70
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    TI 880s '90s whatever um I was told that
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    I should buy 590 I looked at the price
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    recently and it was $7,300 Australian
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    and I said no that's ridiculous unless
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    it provides the most groundbreaking
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    Graphics changes and encoding changes
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    it's not worth buying so we don't have
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    one of those um but you also can't buy
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    them oh yeah even if you had $ 7300
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    Australian dollars you could not
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    purchase one so um yeah that's a uh
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    that's a bit of the pain you've put it
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    into your machine haven't you I've I
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    chucked it in my computer put in the
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    drivers haven't had any issues with it
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    so far um should you buy one um I think
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    there's much better value in some of the
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    other cards especially at the price
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    points with the 40 probably the 4070 TI
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    super I think that's probably a a good
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    sweet spot um just across the board
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    comparing everything uh I'm going to
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    continue to test mine out to make sure
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    sure that it's it's all good but uh I I
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    went from a 40 60 TI to this one um I
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    don't think there's a great deal of
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    difference you went from a 470
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    TI sure yep yeah 470 TI to the so70 I
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    know the numbers and the amount of TI
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    and supers and everything it yeah it is
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    pretty insane but yeah 470 TI um so I
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    put that in mind I actually got the
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    uh this is this is not a true
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    representation of the size right here
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    here it is it's so it's so
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    little so not I was going to do a title
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    this say not a true representation of
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    size I think it's a very cute size yeah
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    um but it it yeah somewhere on the box
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    it says something doesn't it I don't
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    know whether it actually does on this
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    one Nvidia SS uh sff yeah so this is sff
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    approved um so small form factor
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    approved meaning that it is considerably
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    smaller
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    um than what I had in mind so I had a
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    full size 47 TI and if you have a look
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    at our Blue Sky account I posted a photo
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    um and yeah it is considerably smaller
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    which is good but is how it should be I
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    don't know what sort of sacrifices
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    you're making with a small form factor
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    version um but everything kind of seemed
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    to be the same but again we'll find out
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    and it's much much lighter it is
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    narrower it
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    is all the dimensions are smaller
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    basically
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    unfortunately it is still I think uh 2
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    and2 slots thick or something like that
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    yeah so it's still pretty chunky um it'
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    be nice if it was two slots thick but
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    it's not as you know like you fit as big
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    as a lot more places than the other ones
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    funnily enough it got picked up cuz you
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    had sff it it got picked up by some
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    socials um as what was it Science
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    Fiction and Fantasy yeah so
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    automatically posted on Science Fiction
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    and
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    Fantasy they've got all these things
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    about books and things and then there's
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    my post about sff graphics cards which I
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    thought that was pretty funny makes no
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    sense whatsoever so should you buy one
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    probably not um but hold on and I'll
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    continue to test this 57 here to see if
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    it's even like I we don't think that
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    there's remotely enough game to to
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    update really um I am definitely
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    interested in the 590 and so like Tim
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    we'll take that out of your salary
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    nobody in the office agreed that Tim
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    should get this except for Tim no one in
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    the office agrees that we should get a
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    59 either except for me uh we all have
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    different opinions here uh but the 590
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    is interesting cuz it's got three
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    encoding chips instead of two or one and
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    it's got a huge memory bandwidth and
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    it's pretty fast and it's it's got a lot
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    of specs that are pretty amazing however
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    it as Tim says is insanely expensive so
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    you could literally buy two other
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    computers the 10 or 15 maybe 20% gains
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    you might achieve for four times the
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    price of a 40 series that's very very
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    good you know like it just doesn't stack
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    up but for some people where budget
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    isn't quite as
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    significant um maybe maybe it's the sort
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    of thing that people might want to look
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    at uh if you're running a 5090 or even
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    any of the 50 Series let us know in the
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    comments I'm curious how it's going we
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    weren't sure cuz the like we couldn't
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    get them it I was just perusing the
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    sites and then somebody mentioned
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    briefly mentioned an issue with some
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    sort of newer ver like the 50 version um
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    that they patched pretty quickly but um
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    I thought I would get one just so we
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    have it in house so that when someone
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    does say do you have a 50 Series card
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    I'm like yeah of course we do of course
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    we do so there was a driver issue at one
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    moment that we heard about from some
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    users but updates seem to have overcome
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    those so if you are experiencing any
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    issues with the 50 Series cards just try
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    updating the Nvidia driver
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    that might help anyway that's that's my
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    50 Series card very good all right next
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    is Nab show that's what that says I
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    think it's a bit of a blurry logo in the
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    background but uh we've got the NAB show
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    coming up in early April it is from the
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    6th to the 9th I believe uh and it's in
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    Las Vegas it we are in the South Hall
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    which is down the bottom there in South
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    lower uh we're at
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    Booth SL
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    2323 so nice and easy to remember uh and
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    unfortunately this year the South Hall
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    is pretty far away from the North Hall
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    and the West Hall so uh yeah you're
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    going to probably end up spending a day
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    or two in the South Hall before you plan
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    to go the other way I imagine cuz
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    they're miles apart with the central
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    Hall currently
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    out so that's what's going on at NAB
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    hope to see you there if you are able to
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    come and say hi is anyone going just let
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    us know in the comments yeah yeah yeah
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    who's coming does anyone go to these
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    things and do we will be we'll both be
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    there do you get anything from them like
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    these trade shows apart from mouse pads
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    we know that we know that you get mouse
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    pads what's your main motivation for
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    going to trade shows is it because
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    work's paying for it and you get a free
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    trip to Vegas uh is it for the
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    networking or is it for actually seeing
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    products that are being announced but
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    won't be delivered in 6 months so let us
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    know which one of those you are well the
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    the difference between some companies
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    and us is we don't announce features
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    that aren't pretty much there like
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    certainly at NAB we don't tend to
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    announce new features someone asked
  • 00:11:46
    what's going on with Central Hall yeah
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    Renovations yeah yeah so they
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    did they did South Hall two years ago
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    but they're also renovating that again
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    next year so Central is being renovated
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    North was renovated last year last 2
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    years so that'll be all new now
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    Central's being done and then South's
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    getting done again for some reason so
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    yeah that's why anyway we hope to see
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    you if you can come great uh and the
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    last bit of news is about obsbot again
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    these guys are constantly pumping out
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    new cameras um I thought I would just
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    show you the latest one so uh it is
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    called the taale 2 they sent us a um an
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    early release of it uh but before I show
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    it to you I'm going to show you their
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    previous products so that you can kind
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    of get an idea of scale and stuff so
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    this is their tiny two light so this is
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    when they were doing like the little
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    webcams and things like that they've got
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    their next model up which is the tail
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    air which is a bigger unit uh battery
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    powered so it can run completely
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    wirelessly ndi uh you can do power over
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    ethernet with an adapter um and it had
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    HDMI out but it was a micro HDMI so
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    we've got things like power over
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    ethernet with an adapter and micro HDMI
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    it's good but it's not great uh so with
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    their latest model which is the tail 2
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    which I'm going to try and grab
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    carefully because it is wired in right
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    now uh it's bigger it is quite a bit
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    bigger um compared to the tail 2 for
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    instance there's your size differences
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    sorry it's not totally INF Focus
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    everybody but I can't really move it any
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    further um so the tail two is quite
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    quite large but but it has on the back
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    hopefully you can see we've got um a
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    fullsize HDMI here plugged in we've got
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    SDI and we've got power over ethernet
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    coming in right there without an adapter
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    or anything has a really big battery so
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    they claim at
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    10860 uh resolution and frame rate you
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    can
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    achieve um what was it uh you can
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    achieve about 3 and half hours of
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    battery life which I think is pretty
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    good you know that's getting that's
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    getting pretty good coverage for most
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    sports um so uh I think that's pretty
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    good and I I imagine you could also plug
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    in a battery pack no promises there I
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    have never tested that um you should
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    have tried that should have should have
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    but we've only just gotten it uh we've
  • 00:14:19
    only just started testing it by the way
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    so get one sorry a battery pack is that
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    one fully charged no we bought that
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    pretty good one right yeah yeah we do
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    have a pretty good one um I mean you can
  • 00:14:32
    if you uh I think that's risky is it Poe
  • 00:14:34
    at the moment it is okay yes but it's
  • 00:14:36
    got a battery in it so you can unplug it
  • 00:14:38
    it's no big deal but anyway I just
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    thought I'd quickly show you adding it
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    into uh v-mix so what I've also got is
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    an AA media capture device to bring it
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    in over HDMI the reason I'm doing HDMI
  • 00:14:52
    is the camera has the capability of
  • 00:14:55
    doing
  • 00:14:57
    ndix and um sit and rtsp all at high
  • 00:15:05
    resolution and frame rate we're talking
  • 00:15:06
    4K 60 stuff uh and then the SDI cable is
  • 00:15:10
    only 3G um and if you don't know what
  • 00:15:13
    that means it means you're topping out
  • 00:15:15
    at 1080 p60 that's as much data as it
  • 00:15:17
    will travel it will transport so we're
  • 00:15:20
    using HDMI because we're going to get
  • 00:15:21
    the best quality we're going to get 4k
  • 00:15:23
    60 without any real major compression or
  • 00:15:26
    anything like that um uh
  • 00:15:29
    uh compared to doing it over ethernet
  • 00:15:32
    where you do have to compress it a fair
  • 00:15:34
    bit uh that being said I'll show you
  • 00:15:38
    I'll show you how this works I'm going
  • 00:15:39
    to go into a laptop where we've here we
  • 00:15:42
    go um hopefully you can see that
  • 00:15:45
    now
  • 00:15:47
    um and I'm going to go to add input I'm
  • 00:15:51
    going to go to camera because this is an
  • 00:15:52
    HDMI device coming in through that AA
  • 00:15:56
    media live gamer Ultra 2
  • 00:16:00
    .1 and it's already set up at my
  • 00:16:02
    resolution and frame rate that I'm
  • 00:16:03
    looking for and because this is an a
  • 00:16:06
    media uh USB capture device USB tends to
  • 00:16:11
    top out um with its for video format uh
  • 00:16:14
    has a bandwidth limitation so it tops
  • 00:16:16
    out um at a point where you can't use
  • 00:16:20
    the High um Quality video format so
  • 00:16:22
    you've got to drop it just a tiny bit to
  • 00:16:24
    nv12 so I'm clicking on
  • 00:16:26
    nv12 I'm clicking okay and bringing this
  • 00:16:29
    camera in and there we go uh I'll pop it
  • 00:16:33
    up on there so that you can see it and
  • 00:16:35
    actually what I'll do is cut it and full
  • 00:16:38
    screen it so that you guys can all see
  • 00:16:40
    it at full full size so that's the video
  • 00:16:45
    quality now you will notice that there's
  • 00:16:47
    an audio delay and it's because I'm
  • 00:16:50
    piping video through multiple systems to
  • 00:16:52
    get out to here but we're using the
  • 00:16:54
    original audio from our studio so sorry
  • 00:16:57
    about that that's not going to look
  • 00:16:58
    great right now now but I just thought
  • 00:16:59
    I'd quickly show you the difference
  • 00:17:01
    between a camera like this and our
  • 00:17:04
    high-end Studio camera so you can decide
  • 00:17:06
    for yourself whether you think that
  • 00:17:08
    quality is not too bad or maybe you
  • 00:17:09
    don't like it so here's the the OB spot
  • 00:17:12
    tail to and then this is our studio
  • 00:17:17
    camera so we definitely get a little bit
  • 00:17:20
    more um uh Talent Separation by that I
  • 00:17:24
    mean the background is a little bit
  • 00:17:25
    blurrier a little bit
  • 00:17:29
    but at the same time I have got the
  • 00:17:30
    camera set up in a different location so
  • 00:17:33
    that's worth considering so I'm going to
  • 00:17:34
    take it back to the ob spot so you can
  • 00:17:35
    see that again here's the quality once
  • 00:17:38
    again so yeah decide for yourself
  • 00:17:40
    whether you think something like that
  • 00:17:41
    might be a suitable solution for you uh
  • 00:17:46
    let's go back to there ah yeah I earned
  • 00:17:49
    it yeah I just pressed the wrong button
  • 00:17:52
    on our uh setup but anyway uh decide for
  • 00:17:56
    yourself whether you think it's
  • 00:17:57
    something that you might be interested
  • 00:17:58
    in looking at it is a slightly more
  • 00:18:00
    expensive camera but compared to regular
  • 00:18:03
    PTZ cameras out there or PTZ cameras if
  • 00:18:06
    I'm speaking Australian um it's not too
  • 00:18:09
    expensive so decide for yourself uh I
  • 00:18:12
    think they're now available or if
  • 00:18:14
    they're not they will be in the next few
  • 00:18:16
    days or weeks
  • 00:18:18
    so there we go that's that uh let's
  • 00:18:21
    let's shoot straight into q& a it's time
  • 00:18:25
    for q&
  • 00:18:27
    a what's it going to be
  • 00:18:31
    is it hello Bangladesh hello
  • 00:18:34
    Bangladesh I'm guessing that's being
  • 00:18:37
    directed to the entire all of Bangladesh
  • 00:18:41
    and and
  • 00:18:44
    Beyond uh does the OB spot Zoom yes it
  • 00:18:47
    does okay so uh thank you for bringing
  • 00:18:49
    that up so the tail 2 is the first OB
  • 00:18:52
    spot to offer some optical zoom uh so it
  • 00:18:56
    can optically zoom I think it's three
  • 00:18:59
    times or maybe even five times I'm sorry
  • 00:19:01
    I should have remembered that uh but it
  • 00:19:04
    also has because it's got a 4K sensor
  • 00:19:07
    and can uh run at 1080 and a lot of
  • 00:19:10
    people will probably use it at 1080
  • 00:19:12
    you've got that Zoom as well so no
  • 00:19:15
    quality losses um no quality losses
  • 00:19:18
    apparently achieving a what they call a
  • 00:19:21
    hybrid Zoom of uh 12 times maybe even oh
  • 00:19:25
    gee apologies for not remembering the
  • 00:19:28
    exact starts but it could be 12 or it
  • 00:19:30
    could be 16 times so you do have a fair
  • 00:19:31
    B of Zoom range which is Handy um it has
  • 00:19:34
    some pretty good Auto tracking as well
  • 00:19:36
    I've not tested it myself I've just seen
  • 00:19:38
    some footage of it um and it looks okay
  • 00:19:41
    it looks okay so there's plenty of
  • 00:19:44
    videos out there on YouTube now as this
  • 00:19:46
    product's getting tested more and more
  • 00:19:48
    by uh I guess influencers we don't fall
  • 00:19:51
    in that category we're just uh Hardware
  • 00:19:53
    testers K we're just hard Hardware
  • 00:19:55
    testers so we don't get any Kickbacks or
  • 00:19:57
    anything like that yeah
  • 00:19:59
    hello from Austria South Florida this is
  • 00:20:01
    a very good idea we should sublet the
  • 00:20:03
    show I think that's a good idea actually
  • 00:20:05
    could it could be like the live show
  • 00:20:08
    brought to you
  • 00:20:10
    by someone else look we feuring we do
  • 00:20:14
    end up talking about obsbot a little bit
  • 00:20:16
    but that is because they are just
  • 00:20:17
    pumping cameras out so fast um compared
  • 00:20:19
    to pretty much anyone else right now
  • 00:20:22
    you'd be lucky to see a camera a year
  • 00:20:24
    from or or you know a camera every
  • 00:20:26
    couple of years from most providers but
  • 00:20:28
    these guys are doing them every six
  • 00:20:29
    we've got a fancy camera coming for
  • 00:20:33
    na for the booth got we've got a a
  • 00:20:37
    series of cameras lined up uh for those
  • 00:20:39
    that joined us prior the show with the
  • 00:20:41
    giveaway we'll email them after the show
  • 00:20:43
    so just look out for an email um it's
  • 00:20:45
    too hard to log into this computer to to
  • 00:20:47
    run the thing good luck with your call
  • 00:20:49
    out I hope it's not anything
  • 00:20:52
    serious 1080 uh 1080 no great like
  • 00:20:55
    that's a very powerful graphics card it
  • 00:20:57
    genuinely is the the limitations being
  • 00:21:00
    um you don't have access to resizable
  • 00:21:02
    bar
  • 00:21:03
    av1 um I'm not sure whether you can do
  • 00:21:07
    HC or you know h265 that started with
  • 00:21:10
    the
  • 00:21:11
    20 uh and you don't have an uh Nvidia
  • 00:21:14
    broadcast either so I don't know if
  • 00:21:16
    anybody actually uses it in v-mix but it
  • 00:21:19
    is possible to sort of pipe your feed
  • 00:21:22
    through Nvidia broadcast and take
  • 00:21:24
    advantage of some of their
  • 00:21:25
    features do AMD video card work well
  • 00:21:29
    with vmix uh not really no um the reason
  • 00:21:34
    is uh We've focused heavily on nank
  • 00:21:37
    which is nvidia's encoding capabilities
  • 00:21:40
    and uh amds in our opinion are not uh
  • 00:21:46
    adequate for good encoding and so v-mix
  • 00:21:50
    is based around Nvidia Graphics you can
  • 00:21:53
    certainly look at AMD for your
  • 00:21:55
    motherboard and the likes of that and
  • 00:21:58
    like your motherboard CPU combination
  • 00:22:01
    but for GPU stick to
  • 00:22:04
    Nvidia will you be sharing any news new
  • 00:22:08
    new news at NAB uh typically NAB is
  • 00:22:12
    where we talk about the latest version
  • 00:22:15
    of v-mix because it's been out for a
  • 00:22:17
    month or two um and so we'll be mostly
  • 00:22:21
    focused on v-mix 28 this time around
  • 00:22:24
    that's that's what I can share
  • 00:22:29
    will will be there Saturday to Wednesday
  • 00:22:31
    we'll drop by Will and yeah come by will
  • 00:22:34
    uh that is that is a confusing sentence
  • 00:22:38
    will be there where do you research I I
  • 00:22:41
    mean I I mhm it's a good spot to see
  • 00:22:45
    everything all at once yep you get just
  • 00:22:47
    inundated with information yeah so like
  • 00:22:49
    we were discussing it before about
  • 00:22:51
    whether it's a you know a good place to
  • 00:22:54
    be to look at these new products that
  • 00:22:56
    may or may not exist but if you have the
  • 00:22:59
    option and obviously you can get handson
  • 00:23:02
    with a heap of different stuff I mean if
  • 00:23:05
    you've got a local camera shop or
  • 00:23:06
    something you can go down there and you
  • 00:23:07
    can kind of be Hands-On maybe with a
  • 00:23:09
    couple of different brands or models but
  • 00:23:10
    I suppose that if you go to NAB you can
  • 00:23:12
    see everything um all at once and I
  • 00:23:15
    guess you could probably make up your
  • 00:23:17
    make a decision based on that um yeah so
  • 00:23:22
    interesting to see why people go um
  • 00:23:24
    you'll be able to get hands on with vmix
  • 00:23:26
    as well I guess yep which the last
  • 00:23:28
    couple of shows we haven't we've we've
  • 00:23:30
    sort of had a different setup so it will
  • 00:23:32
    be a slightly different Booth design
  • 00:23:33
    this this year for those at NAB
  • 00:23:37
    yeah what do we got is Heath using an
  • 00:23:40
    ancient Microsoft keyboard with the
  • 00:23:42
    awful mushy Keys yes yes indeed I am yep
  • 00:23:46
    it is a uh classic old sometimes you
  • 00:23:50
    just end up with equipment that just
  • 00:23:52
    keeps going along with you and I think
  • 00:23:54
    this is probably the same keyboard that
  • 00:23:55
    we had for the
  • 00:23:56
    shudio um
  • 00:23:59
    last last office Block office we had it
  • 00:24:02
    is it is super old it just kind of moves
  • 00:24:04
    along but it has been really solid so we
  • 00:24:08
    we we have it wirelessly going to a USB
  • 00:24:11
    dongle which then runs through some
  • 00:24:13
    stuff back to our PC which is outside of
  • 00:24:15
    the studio uh but so it's a little bit
  • 00:24:18
    of a complex workflow for a keyboard but
  • 00:24:21
    it is solid so can you get 50 60s is
  • 00:24:23
    that a thing no I don't think the 5060
  • 00:24:26
    is out yet if it is is coming I'm not
  • 00:24:29
    sure what I have noticed is they are
  • 00:24:32
    Nvidia do tend to get rid of the lower
  • 00:24:35
    end models so for instance there was no
  • 00:24:38
    4050 released there was in laptops but
  • 00:24:42
    there wasn't in uh you know desktop PC
  • 00:24:46
    cards so who knows if we're going to see
  • 00:24:48
    a 5060 I would I would bet that we won't
  • 00:24:51
    see a 50/50 but I wonder if we won't see
  • 00:24:54
    a 5060
  • 00:24:56
    either yes can I use Xbox controllers
  • 00:24:59
    yeah absolutely I think we've got a
  • 00:25:00
    video that goes through that to some
  • 00:25:02
    degree and I think there's a preset in
  • 00:25:04
    there could just load it up absolutely
  • 00:25:07
    uh let me quickly show you I'll quickly
  • 00:25:09
    show you what the preset looks like um
  • 00:25:11
    let's
  • 00:25:12
    go and cut to
  • 00:25:15
    the um to this we're going to settings
  • 00:25:20
    again I pull I'll do this just to coup
  • 00:25:22
    my mouth so that the sync issues aren't
  • 00:25:24
    too bad uh okay and if we go down to
  • 00:25:31
    shortcuts and have a look at our
  • 00:25:33
    templates for
  • 00:25:34
    shortcuts down along here we've got um
  • 00:25:40
    help me find
  • 00:25:46
    it maybe there's not one there I'm going
  • 00:25:49
    to work through them all yeah yeah that
  • 00:25:51
    fifth one didn't there is sorry
  • 00:25:52
    apologies it took so long to find so yes
  • 00:25:55
    we can we can apply that um um yep and
  • 00:25:59
    now I've got a bunch of shortcuts all
  • 00:26:03
    linked to a standard
  • 00:26:06
    Xbox Xbox
  • 00:26:09
    controller so yeah give that a go give
  • 00:26:12
    that a go see how you go with
  • 00:26:16
    it I I bet that there were a bunch of
  • 00:26:18
    people watching just then going it's
  • 00:26:20
    right there it's right there just click
  • 00:26:21
    on the Xbox controller I can't see it I
  • 00:26:24
    can't see it yeah I think the the hvbc
  • 00:26:27
    stuff came in and in the 20 series cards
  • 00:26:30
    even though the 1650 was probably after
  • 00:26:33
    the 20 series cards on release date was
  • 00:26:36
    it probably yeah okay but he didn't get
  • 00:26:39
    the RTX no labeling for R tracing and
  • 00:26:42
    all those things so not that we use R
  • 00:26:45
    tracing does vmix run smoothly on
  • 00:26:47
    Windows 11 now still currently holding
  • 00:26:49
    off on Windows 10 till the updates run
  • 00:26:50
    out uh yes vmix runs really smoothly on
  • 00:26:53
    Windows 11 um uh provided you're using a
  • 00:26:57
    modern v-mix so v-mix 24 has some audio
  • 00:27:01
    known audio issues with Windows
  • 00:27:04
    11 uh 24 H2 which is their latest
  • 00:27:09
    Windows 11 so bear that in mind if
  • 00:27:12
    you're using 24 you will have to update
  • 00:27:16
    and it's likely you'll have to pay a $60
  • 00:27:18
    fee to do that to get the latest version
  • 00:27:20
    of V just letting you know which will
  • 00:27:22
    not double which will not in the second
  • 00:27:25
    yeah the that won't make any sense cuz
  • 00:27:28
    that was pre-show so that's the whole
  • 00:27:31
    point so yeah potentially we should have
  • 00:27:34
    looked into it a little bit more I
  • 00:27:36
    didn't go through the full article but
  • 00:27:37
    somebody in the our chat was saying that
  • 00:27:39
    it's $60 for the first year then
  • 00:27:41
    potentially $10 for the next year and
  • 00:27:43
    then it increases again for the third
  • 00:27:44
    year threee maximum for Windows 10 but I
  • 00:27:48
    I'm assuming it's just going to be
  • 00:27:49
    security updates for it um no new
  • 00:27:52
    features or anything like that so if
  • 00:27:53
    you're running a modern version of v-mix
  • 00:27:56
    um within the last few years then
  • 00:27:58
    we would urge you to update to Windows
  • 00:28:00
    11 basically all of our laptops have
  • 00:28:02
    been on Windows 11 for 3 four years now
  • 00:28:05
    like it's been a long time so and they
  • 00:28:07
    all run B miix fine for all our testing
  • 00:28:10
    and our travel and all of our trade
  • 00:28:11
    shows and stuff all of our trade shows
  • 00:28:13
    have been running on Windows 11 for
  • 00:28:15
    since Co so yep um no sort of major
  • 00:28:19
    issues at the moment um there were a few
  • 00:28:21
    bugs here and there with audio a few
  • 00:28:23
    years back which have been sort of
  • 00:28:25
    ironed out again it's one of these
  • 00:28:27
    things where they make updates to things
  • 00:28:28
    for no my personally like no real good
  • 00:28:31
    reason certain updates um and they've
  • 00:28:33
    changed menus and things like that but
  • 00:28:35
    nothing has interfered too much with
  • 00:28:37
    theix MH and it was a 40 5070 so that
  • 00:28:40
    would work fine
  • 00:28:42
    um but yeah if that's the card that you
  • 00:28:45
    have access to um I would say that
  • 00:28:49
    you're probably going to get better
  • 00:28:51
    value for money with a 40 series card um
  • 00:28:54
    as opposed to getting a 5070 but
  • 00:28:57
    depending on what you have access to and
  • 00:28:59
    uh all that kind of thing is um up to
  • 00:29:02
    you I guess um let's just do a quick run
  • 00:29:05
    of these ones if you want to if you want
  • 00:29:06
    to compare the performance of a 50
  • 00:29:10
    Series with a 40 series the things that
  • 00:29:13
    vmix benefit from are the Cuda cores
  • 00:29:18
    sometimes called Shader cores so the
  • 00:29:21
    number of Cuda cor you want to look at
  • 00:29:22
    that you want to look at the memory
  • 00:29:24
    bandwidth um and you want to have a look
  • 00:29:29
    at um just just the overall base clock
  • 00:29:33
    speed so if you can look at those three
  • 00:29:36
    things and compare them between cards
  • 00:29:39
    you'll sort of get a gauge on what's the
  • 00:29:41
    best value for you at the
  • 00:29:43
    time scard
  • 00:29:45
    here not to scale not to scale not to
  • 00:29:49
    scale yeah um the answer to this is no
  • 00:29:52
    vmix won't have ndi hx3 support no no HX
  • 00:29:57
    gener generally won't be available in
  • 00:29:59
    vmix we we output in full
  • 00:30:02
    ndi what you can do though is you can
  • 00:30:05
    use ndi Bridge which is one of ndi tools
  • 00:30:09
    features it's free from um new tech or
  • 00:30:12
    what do you call them now viz viz
  • 00:30:15
    it um yeah so it you grab ndi tools and
  • 00:30:20
    you can use ndi bridge in something
  • 00:30:22
    called local mode and what that will do
  • 00:30:24
    is it will take all of the ndi sources
  • 00:30:27
    including anything coming out of vmix at
  • 00:30:28
    full ndi and then excuse me and then you
  • 00:30:32
    can convert it to ndix so that's an
  • 00:30:35
    option set fade shortcut works great
  • 00:30:38
    excellent um any AI integration in v-mix
  • 00:30:41
    no no what do you want what do you want
  • 00:30:45
    your computer to do and specifically
  • 00:30:48
    like how perfect does it have to be so
  • 00:30:52
    would a 70% hit rate be good for your AI
  • 00:30:56
    for your AI feature do you want of your
  • 00:30:58
    data being sent to a cloud somewhere and
  • 00:31:01
    then sent back to vmix in real time let
  • 00:31:03
    us know so so so one of the limitations
  • 00:31:05
    of uh AI is it uses resources and
  • 00:31:10
    particularly Graphics resources and so
  • 00:31:12
    we do need to be careful that we're not
  • 00:31:14
    uh taking those resources away from your
  • 00:31:17
    v-mix production that is working very
  • 00:31:19
    hard to keep every frame in sync and
  • 00:31:22
    without dropping any of them every video
  • 00:31:24
    frame so yes we don't have a sneak peek
  • 00:31:26
    sneak PE of M you go back of back a TV
  • 00:31:30
    image technically speaking that was part
  • 00:31:32
    of one of the mouse pads so you can work
  • 00:31:36
    on that okay
  • 00:31:38
    uh I am going back this is exactly right
  • 00:31:42
    now I just love the the
  • 00:31:44
    phrasing uh so the third from the one
  • 00:31:47
    with the turkey in it this one
  • 00:31:51
    yeah there we go so that that's a sneak
  • 00:31:53
    peek of one of the uh one of the mouse
  • 00:31:56
    pads it's a that's a a brush turkey an
  • 00:31:58
    Australian brush turkey not that you can
  • 00:32:00
    see it for some reason is in well he's
  • 00:32:02
    oh when F it's gone but it's a um it's
  • 00:32:05
    set in a in a rainforest type scene yeah
  • 00:32:08
    with a with a brush turkey and a whip
  • 00:32:10
    bird and all all sorts of stuff in there
  • 00:32:12
    so one of them we have quite a few
  • 00:32:14
    because we uh I made a new character
  • 00:32:18
    mouse pad that is sort of of the time so
  • 00:32:23
    we have to make it nobody wanted it but
  • 00:32:25
    we had to make it because it would have
  • 00:32:27
    been a waste
  • 00:32:28
    so there's going to be a very limited
  • 00:32:30
    amount of those ones um
  • 00:32:32
    because uh it's of the time and that
  • 00:32:35
    sounds bad like you know when people
  • 00:32:38
    talk about old movies and things they
  • 00:32:39
    say it was very of the time you have to
  • 00:32:40
    ignore some of the things they say but
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    and it's not like that there's nothing
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    bad about it anyway it's my end of my
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    rant um someone just uh I'm not sure I
  • 00:32:52
    understand this one so well we integrate
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    Ai and vmix in the Funtime live show in
  • 00:32:58
    our okay yes Inc songs that we make if
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    you tune into this live you get access
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    to some intro videos and outro videos
  • 00:33:08
    that are not shown on anything else um
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    and so you're only going to catch that
  • 00:33:13
    if you actually catch us live and they
  • 00:33:15
    are mostly AI
  • 00:33:19
    generated oh no the videos aren't the
  • 00:33:22
    audio is yes I knew somebody would be in
  • 00:33:25
    that boat going it's right there it's
  • 00:33:27
    right there what are you
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    doing
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    um so this is
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    um it's it's a bit of a tough one when
  • 00:33:40
    it comes to like minimum recommendations
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    um we did look at I don't know whether
  • 00:33:45
    we updated it we did look at changing
  • 00:33:47
    some of these recently so we'll after
  • 00:33:49
    the show we'll take another look at it
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    to see if there was any potential I know
  • 00:33:53
    I think we Bas baselined the GPU but I
  • 00:33:56
    can't remember about the other
  • 00:33:58
    ideally take a look at the different
  • 00:34:01
    reference systems those builds will put
  • 00:34:03
    you in a good light as to HD cameras
  • 00:34:06
    replay and everything so look at the
  • 00:34:08
    low-end one of those um that's probably
  • 00:34:11
    a good way to go that's probably
  • 00:34:12
    depending on what you're trying to do
  • 00:34:14
    but even if it's a one or two camera and
  • 00:34:15
    you look maybe look at um expanding in
  • 00:34:18
    the future using the is it Ruby is that
  • 00:34:20
    the bass one or opal Opel the base yeah
  • 00:34:23
    looking at that one might be a good good
  • 00:34:24
    way to go that'll kind of give you
  • 00:34:26
    overhead um in the future I don't know
  • 00:34:29
    how expensive that would be to put
  • 00:34:30
    together but hopefully it's um yeah yeah
  • 00:34:33
    all right um let's just I think that'll
  • 00:34:38
    about do for now uh and then we have a
  • 00:34:40
    poster so we'll stick around so any more
  • 00:34:42
    questions and stuff that we go through
  • 00:34:43
    we'll um we'll take a look at them and
  • 00:34:45
    uh go from there so if you want to wipe
  • 00:34:48
    out the social and sure yeah so you can
  • 00:34:51
    full goodbye
  • 00:34:53
    farewell live
  • 00:34:55
    life live laugh live stream you can't
  • 00:34:59
    really see it but it's yeah he's
  • 00:35:01
    painting the picture in it
  • 00:35:05
    anyway Magnus the Magnificent yeah he
  • 00:35:08
    forgot his shirt so he had to use one
  • 00:35:11
    that was in his car his byd so all right
  • 00:35:15
    see you catch you next
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    month in the Phoenix Fun Time Life show
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