KENDALL JENNER Opens Up About Anxiety, Insecurity, & How To Be Truly Happy! | Jay Shetty
Summary
TLDRThis podcast episode features a heartfelt conversation between Jay Shetty and Kendall Jenner, where they discuss their personal journeys, the importance of mental health, and the challenges of living in the public eye. Kendall shares insights about happiness, the need for boundaries, and her experiences as a model and entrepreneur. The two delve into themes of self-love and authenticity, stressing that true validation comes from within and not from external sources. They also reflect on the influence of their past experiences on their current perspectives and the importance of sharing positive messages.
Takeaways
- π± Self-love is essential for happiness.
- π« It's crucial to set personal boundaries.
- π Validation should come from within, not from others.
- π¨ Creativity thrives in entrepreneurship.
- π΄ Animals, like horses, can provide immense comfort.
- π± Taking breaks from technology can benefit mental health.
- π Everyone experiences their own struggles, regardless of status.
- π Emphasizing gratitude creates a positive perspective.
- π Sharing personal stories fosters connection.
- β¨ Embracing one's journey is essential for growth.
Timeline
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The discussion begins with the idea that happiness should not be dependent on the actions of others, emphasizing the importance of self-control over one's happiness.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
The speaker expresses excitement about connecting with Jay Shetty, believing it is a manifestation of their thoughts and desires.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
They share stories about admiration for each other's work, especially around mental health advocacy and the impact it has had on them personally.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
There's a reflection on curiosity and determination as qualities both speakers admire in influential figures, highlighting a desire to know more about each other's stories.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Kendall expresses her passion for self-care, notably through cold plunges and maintaining physical and mental well-being, emphasizing the importance of personal growth.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
The conversation touches on the need to share positive experiences and helpful tools with others, not as a pity party but as a means of connection and helpfulness.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Kendall shares her philosophy about life, focusing on self-affirmation and countering negative self-talk with kindness and understanding.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
The role of social media is acknowledged as both a positive and negative influence, with a focus on spreading positive news and stories to counteract negativity.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
The discussion turns to personal loss, particularly about a close friend, and how shared grief can connect many people over the experiences of loss and love.
- 00:45:00 - 00:53:59
The episode concludes with reflections on purpose, the importance of self-awareness, and the practice of gratitude and kindness towards oneself and others.
Mind Map
Video Q&A
What is Kendall's approach to happiness?
Kendall believes that true happiness comes from within and should not depend on the actions of others.
What is Kendall working on personally?
Kendall is currently focusing on setting boundaries and managing her stress levels.
How does Kendall feel about validation?
She no longer values external validation as much as she used to.
What is Kendall's favorite aspect of being an entrepreneur?
She enjoys being her own boss and expresses her creativity through her tequila brand, 818.
What law would Kendall create?
She would create a law that mandates people to take a break from their phones for half a day, particularly on Sundays.
What inspires Kendall's curiosity?
Kendall is inspired by the journey of meditation and wants to deepen her practice.
What experiences shape Kendall's view on family and friendships?
She values honesty and believes in the significance of taking time for oneself within relationships.
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- 00:00:00if your happiness depends on the actions
- 00:00:03of others you know you're at Mercy of
- 00:00:06things that you can't control the
- 00:00:08bestselling author and host the number
- 00:00:10one Health and Wellness podcast on
- 00:00:12purpose with J
- 00:00:14shett yeah I'm not even just saying this
- 00:00:16I literally think I manifested this like
- 00:00:20it's the after I saw you at simy and
- 00:00:22Hayes's house so that was a couple
- 00:00:24months ago and then a few weeks ago my I
- 00:00:27was talking to my social media girl
- 00:00:28randomly we were just talking about
- 00:00:30bunch of stuff um and just kind of what
- 00:00:33I would love to represent just talking
- 00:00:34about a new chapter for me and whatever
- 00:00:36and I was she was like who would you
- 00:00:39really want to like talk to or whatever
- 00:00:40and I was like it would be so cool to
- 00:00:41talk to Jay and she was like that would
- 00:00:44be really cool and then we kind of just
- 00:00:45that was kind of the thought and
- 00:00:47whatever and then you hit me and I was
- 00:00:48like no freaking way he's hitting me
- 00:00:50right now so I was like absolutely this
- 00:00:53is like perfect it's the universe just
- 00:00:54putting it in perfect timing because
- 00:00:56that that makes me so happy because it
- 00:00:57was exactly the opposite way so I've for
- 00:01:01a long time had people that I'd love to
- 00:01:03sit down with and every time I saw you
- 00:01:04do something with mental health and
- 00:01:06Vogue or any of the segments that you
- 00:01:08ever did I was just like she's amazing
- 00:01:10like you know it's incredible to the way
- 00:01:12you were talking about it when you'd
- 00:01:13post about it I'd be like oh this is
- 00:01:15incredible like to see see you speaking
- 00:01:17so openly about it and vulnerably about
- 00:01:18it and so I've always wanted to do this
- 00:01:21and then but we've never really crossed
- 00:01:23paths and so I'm always just a bit like
- 00:01:25and I don't like asking friends of
- 00:01:27friends when I haven't met someone and
- 00:01:29so I I was like that day I had to like
- 00:01:30pluck up the cage be like I'm just going
- 00:01:32to ask it myself cuz it's easier when I
- 00:01:34ask and I know Christie so but I was
- 00:01:37like I it's nicer when there's I told my
- 00:01:39team too I was like it's so much nicer
- 00:01:41when there's like a personal connection
- 00:01:42and someone really feels comfortable
- 00:01:44rather than it's like a PR no it was it
- 00:01:46was so perfect like when I think back to
- 00:01:48it I'm like that was me just trusting
- 00:01:50the universe and not pushing for
- 00:01:52anything and I knew it was going to kind
- 00:01:54of happen when it was supposed to and it
- 00:01:56literally did so you felt it too we got
- 00:02:00yeah and I hope that this is the of
- 00:02:02spending more time together camera too I
- 00:02:05would love that cuz like I think also I
- 00:02:08don't know like I admire people like you
- 00:02:10I admire like you know the the Michael
- 00:02:14polands and Michael singers and whim
- 00:02:15Hoffs of the world and I feel like you
- 00:02:17fit in that category for me of just
- 00:02:19people that are cuz you know I know a
- 00:02:21little bit about your story I'd like to
- 00:02:22actually know more which would be really
- 00:02:24cool to actually I know we're obviously
- 00:02:25not here to for that exactly but for me
- 00:02:28just personally like I I'd love to know
- 00:02:30more of your story I know that um you've
- 00:02:33had quite the experiences and I think
- 00:02:35that's so cool I'm like so intrigued by
- 00:02:37people with just that amount of
- 00:02:38curiosity and like determination
- 00:02:41determination and patience like that
- 00:02:43takes so much patience to be like you or
- 00:02:46like any of those people that I just
- 00:02:47listed it's so cool to me and I just I
- 00:02:50wish I wish for myself but I'm working
- 00:02:52on it no you're that curious too you're
- 00:02:54that curious I am it's just you know
- 00:02:56that that level of like I said patience
- 00:02:58and DET determination is like it's a
- 00:03:01gift like that is like a really really
- 00:03:04amazing gift and like I said like I'm
- 00:03:06just working on it all the time and I
- 00:03:08that's my goal in life I guess well well
- 00:03:10I I think I feel the same way about you
- 00:03:13again that and by the way I love all
- 00:03:14those people you just mentioned too so
- 00:03:16so feel very honored to be put into that
- 00:03:18group of people and we've had whim on
- 00:03:19the podcast before too so he's been a
- 00:03:21guest but with you I feel the same way
- 00:03:23back when it's like when when you see
- 00:03:25someone who is so curious who could get
- 00:03:28away with not worrying about this things
- 00:03:30if you don't want to but then still
- 00:03:31being courageous enough to talk about
- 00:03:32these things and then using your
- 00:03:34platform as a space to open up these
- 00:03:35dialoges like that is as if not more
- 00:03:39important as well as as doing the work
- 00:03:41and doing the path yeah I can see you
- 00:03:44doing the work it's fun watching you do
- 00:03:45the work and figuring it out I love
- 00:03:47working on myself like it is actually
- 00:03:49like a passion of mine and like I just I
- 00:03:53find so much comfort and joy and like
- 00:03:56actually finding where I think I could
- 00:03:58better myself and being like even if
- 00:04:00it's physical like physical as in like
- 00:04:02my physical health or working out or I
- 00:04:04just started doing speaking of Wim Hof I
- 00:04:06just started doing like cold plunges and
- 00:04:08Ice baths and like even if I don't have
- 00:04:09the time to go outside I just got a cold
- 00:04:11plunge I did it right before I got here
- 00:04:13it's the best thing ever it's also again
- 00:04:15it takes so much mental the whole thing
- 00:04:18of it is all mental so I don't know just
- 00:04:20stuff like that I really love so I'm
- 00:04:23always I'm always trying to just be the
- 00:04:25best version of me and so I just love
- 00:04:28that it like actually makes makes me
- 00:04:29feel really good I love selfcare and I
- 00:04:31just love stuff like that so it's been
- 00:04:33really cool but it's cool for you to say
- 00:04:36that you enjoy seeing that from me
- 00:04:38because there's always been kind of this
- 00:04:40weird part of it for me where I'm like
- 00:04:42is this a pity party cuz I don't want it
- 00:04:44to be like I want this to feel very
- 00:04:47positive I want to connect with people
- 00:04:49and I guess that's that is my goal there
- 00:04:51is to be like there actually is this
- 00:04:53side of me that you might may not know
- 00:04:55of but the goal here is to connect and
- 00:04:58also not
- 00:05:00feel like I'm throwing some pity party
- 00:05:02for myself because I want this to be a
- 00:05:04learning experience for everyone I want
- 00:05:06this to be really positive and really
- 00:05:08really well received I want you to look
- 00:05:09at it and actually have a positive
- 00:05:11feeling towards it so I don't know
- 00:05:13you'll find like if I you know when I do
- 00:05:15kind of post about something or when I
- 00:05:16want to talk about something I'm usually
- 00:05:18sharing a tip or like sharing kind of
- 00:05:21like a little technique even if it's
- 00:05:22something so simple as like run walking
- 00:05:24outside taking a few deep breaths and
- 00:05:25journaling like it's just that kind of
- 00:05:28stuff that I really like um to share
- 00:05:31because I feel like I want to be helpful
- 00:05:33more than anything absolutely and that's
- 00:05:34how that's at least how I see it like I
- 00:05:36see it not not completely not as a pity
- 00:05:39party at all but so much more as just
- 00:05:41hey here's a reminder or here's
- 00:05:42something that I did and I feel like
- 00:05:45that positivity shines through too in
- 00:05:46the way you do it so at least if that
- 00:05:48helps whatever that's worth from the
- 00:05:50outside it definitely comes across that
- 00:05:52way and this has easily been the warmest
- 00:05:55introduction to a flow a conversation
- 00:05:57I've ever experienced in my entire life
- 00:05:59doing this say I was actually I was
- 00:06:00actually really nervous coming in here
- 00:06:02cuz this means so much to me like and
- 00:06:04I'm serious cuz you know I've done a lot
- 00:06:07of interviews in my life and when when
- 00:06:09thinking about this one or thinking
- 00:06:10about that I even wanted to do something
- 00:06:12like this it just it means a lot to me
- 00:06:15and so it made me a little nervous and I
- 00:06:17was like I just want to get this right
- 00:06:18this isn't like you know me going out
- 00:06:20and promoting something or talking about
- 00:06:22something this is you know something
- 00:06:24very real that um we all experience
- 00:06:26which is just you know our ourselves and
- 00:06:29our well being and just everything so
- 00:06:32yeah and this is this is a you know for
- 00:06:33me genuinely and and I really do mean
- 00:06:35this like the podcast has been a great
- 00:06:39excuse or really from my side an
- 00:06:41intention to get to know people I'm I
- 00:06:43really admire and so for me it's been a
- 00:06:45great way of building new friendships
- 00:06:47and relationships because if you can sit
- 00:06:48and talk to someone and really get along
- 00:06:49with each other you're like oh we should
- 00:06:51do this more often and so well I'm
- 00:06:53honored yeah so for me it's definitely
- 00:06:54been that and to me you know you saying
- 00:06:58that and you know taking as
- 00:06:59intentionally as you are it's you know
- 00:07:02for me it's as important I I always Shar
- 00:07:03this before we start recording usually
- 00:07:05but we just flowed hey everyone welcome
- 00:07:08back to on purpose the number one Health
- 00:07:10podcast in the world thanks to each and
- 00:07:12every single one of you that come back
- 00:07:14every week to listen learn and grow now
- 00:07:17it's very rare that I get to sit down
- 00:07:18with someone that I have admired for a
- 00:07:20very long time from afar someone that I
- 00:07:22believe has inspired me through the
- 00:07:24sharing of their story someone who
- 00:07:26speaks so vulnerably and openly about
- 00:07:28the things that I most care care about
- 00:07:30mental health purpose uh the Journey of
- 00:07:32life and Discovery and curiosity and
- 00:07:36what I want to share about this person
- 00:07:37is when I bumped into them at a mutual
- 00:07:38friends birthday party and I just want
- 00:07:40to give a big big shout out to Simeon
- 00:07:41Hayes because this wouldn't happen
- 00:07:43without them I love you Simeon Hayes
- 00:07:44You've been amazing guest on the podcast
- 00:07:46before as well uh I would have bumped
- 00:07:48into this individual and had this
- 00:07:49opportunity to reach out to them and as
- 00:07:52soon as I reached out this has been the
- 00:07:53most flowing conversation and connection
- 00:07:56that I possibly had on the podcast to be
- 00:07:58honest so I just want to put that out
- 00:07:59I'm speaking about the one and only
- 00:08:01someone who needs no introduction but
- 00:08:03successful business founder
- 00:08:04International supermodel uh founder of
- 00:08:07the incredibly successful tequila brand
- 00:08:08818 and star on the Hulu the Kardashians
- 00:08:12which premieres in second season on
- 00:08:14September 22 the one and only Kendall
- 00:08:17Jenna Kendall thank you so much for
- 00:08:19doing this thanks for having me that was
- 00:08:21a wonderful introduction oh well it's
- 00:08:23it's honestly been such an honor getting
- 00:08:25to know someone who it's very rare that
- 00:08:28I find someone who
- 00:08:30functions in with very similar values in
- 00:08:32in a personal connection sense so when I
- 00:08:34reached out to you I I really meant
- 00:08:37everything I said and I could have
- 00:08:38written you an essay but I was like
- 00:08:39let's spare her the details and then to
- 00:08:42to get your response and then for us to
- 00:08:44be here within a couple of weeks of
- 00:08:45connecting and even your message this
- 00:08:47morning I just want people to know I was
- 00:08:49like the the text you sent me this
- 00:08:50morning I was like this never happens
- 00:08:53like I was like this is amazing and I
- 00:08:54was like but and I was literally going
- 00:08:55to do the same thing and so to me I was
- 00:08:57like this is very rare and so I love the
- 00:08:59Synergy and the flow that we're
- 00:09:01experiencing and me too I'm excited to
- 00:09:03get into it now it's funny cuz I called
- 00:09:05I called Hayes before um the other day
- 00:09:07and I was just like oh my God I'm going
- 00:09:09on your friends show and whatever and
- 00:09:11she was like he's the best it's you're
- 00:09:13just going to flow right into it he's so
- 00:09:15easy to talk to and that's literally
- 00:09:16what happened and like I told you I just
- 00:09:18feel like I manifested this moment for
- 00:09:20for both of us and for this just this
- 00:09:22whole experience and so I am really
- 00:09:25happy to be here and I'm honestly
- 00:09:26honored like I said I admire you and I
- 00:09:28there's so many people like you that I
- 00:09:30admire so I think sitting down here with
- 00:09:32you is just so cool for me and I get to
- 00:09:35talk about fun things with you so
- 00:09:37amazing first of many and and I wanted
- 00:09:39to start with because I I always like to
- 00:09:41start with just things that I've seen
- 00:09:42more recently a couple of days ago I
- 00:09:43think you posted a beautiful picture of
- 00:09:45you hugging your horse uh and you were
- 00:09:47like you know like snuggle time or
- 00:09:48something like that and I was just like
- 00:09:50when when did horses become a part of
- 00:09:52your life and how did you get so close
- 00:09:54to them I think I've spent many
- 00:09:56lifetimes with horses I think this is
- 00:09:59very one of many lifetimes that I've had
- 00:10:01I grew up in a horse community so where
- 00:10:03we grew up horses everywhere tra more
- 00:10:06Trails than there were homes really and
- 00:10:08so I was always around horses and I just
- 00:10:11was deeply in love with them and I have
- 00:10:13no explanation and that's why I say I
- 00:10:14feel like in past lives I have just been
- 00:10:16around horses yeah so since I was a
- 00:10:18really young kid loved them and continue
- 00:10:22to love them my whole life they're just
- 00:10:24the best they're the most majestic and
- 00:10:27gorgeous and spiritual they feel
- 00:10:30everything I just like it's such an
- 00:10:32honor to be in their presence and to be
- 00:10:35able to do what I can do with my horse I
- 00:10:37find so magical that I can stand in her
- 00:10:40stall with her and just like Vibe out
- 00:10:42with her I I like sometimes come to like
- 00:10:44a little get a little teary eyed when
- 00:10:46I'm standing in my stall with her
- 00:10:47because I'm like this is so cool that
- 00:10:48you allow me to do this and we have this
- 00:10:50connection without any words it's just
- 00:10:52the best thing ever so I love them yeah
- 00:10:55that's so special I I have a different
- 00:10:56teide story with horses but I'll tell
- 00:10:59I'll tell you the short version so when
- 00:11:01I proposed to my wife who I can't wait
- 00:11:02to introduce you to when I proposed to
- 00:11:04her which was eight years ago or
- 00:11:05something like that when when I proposed
- 00:11:07to her I organized a very what I would
- 00:11:10consider like a very a very Hollywood
- 00:11:12proposal it was it was too over the top
- 00:11:14and I would do it totally different
- 00:11:15today with all everything I've learned
- 00:11:17happens yeah it happens it happens and
- 00:11:20so we were walking to by the temps in
- 00:11:22London which is where we're both born
- 00:11:23and raised and this Acappella group
- 00:11:25jumps out and they're singing Bruno Mars
- 00:11:27and then like they give her a bouquet of
- 00:11:28flowers
- 00:11:29and then I get out on one knee I propose
- 00:11:31we have dinner by the river and then we
- 00:11:33walk around the corner and there's a
- 00:11:35horse R and carriage to take us around
- 00:11:38to take us around London and so we're on
- 00:11:40this Carriage we have this beautiful you
- 00:11:42know path through London and then we get
- 00:11:44into the train to get back home to her
- 00:11:45parents to tell them and they already
- 00:11:47knew she's got hives all over her face
- 00:11:51and all over she was allergic she's
- 00:11:53allergic to horses and I found out the
- 00:11:55day I proposed it I was like all right
- 00:11:57so then she was like she had tears and
- 00:11:58when we got back par were like what did
- 00:11:59you do to at least you got to enjoy the
- 00:12:01moment at least you got to yeah it was
- 00:12:03until after but but no I I love horses
- 00:12:05no I love horses the same way you do
- 00:12:07like I I used to go to India a lot when
- 00:12:09I was a kid and that's where I first
- 00:12:11learned to be with horses and I mean
- 00:12:14they're so therapeutic absolutely
- 00:12:16there's a reason there's ecoin therapy
- 00:12:18it's the best but exactly yeah they make
- 00:12:20me they make me when I'm with her I have
- 00:12:24a few but I'm most mostly with one of my
- 00:12:26horses right now cuz I'm her name's
- 00:12:28delandra didn't name her she came with
- 00:12:30her name but I call her Dylan or D um I
- 00:12:33love her so much but when I'm with her I
- 00:12:35I genuinely I speak of like I I spoke
- 00:12:38about how I've just loved horses my
- 00:12:39whole life I I feel like a kid around
- 00:12:41her like I feel like my 12-year-old self
- 00:12:44that would get up every morning at
- 00:12:46throughout the entire summer at 8:00
- 00:12:47a.m. to go just be at my trainer's
- 00:12:50facility and I would stay there from
- 00:12:518:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. I'd ride all her
- 00:12:54horses I'd groom all her horses I would
- 00:12:56just sit in the Stalls with all the
- 00:12:57horses like it just anytime with her I
- 00:12:59just have that sense of like being a
- 00:13:01child again and it's a really really
- 00:13:03good feeling animals have that special
- 00:13:05ability don't they like whichever animal
- 00:13:07you're attracted to and I i' I never
- 00:13:10thought I would but when I lived as a
- 00:13:11monk the animal that's revered in India
- 00:13:14is cows and you would never think of
- 00:13:16cows being like Majestic or you know in
- 00:13:20that way especially when you're not in
- 00:13:21India but the cows in India have these
- 00:13:22like Lotus like eyes like the eyes are
- 00:13:24just like absolutely stunning yeah and
- 00:13:27they're so special and they're such
- 00:13:28gentle animals and recently r and I went
- 00:13:32trekking with gorillas in Rwanda and
- 00:13:34gorillas are the we have to go that
- 00:13:37sounds unreal it was unbelievable and
- 00:13:40they're the animal that's revered in
- 00:13:42Rwanda so whenever they have a new
- 00:13:44gorilla that's born they have a naming
- 00:13:45ceremony with the community love it's so
- 00:13:48beautiful but and then I heard somewhere
- 00:13:50that you your first job was you were a
- 00:13:51dog walker yeah and so I was thinking
- 00:13:53like do you have any lessons or anything
- 00:13:55you learned by being a dog walker I
- 00:13:57think first jobs are so interesting yeah
- 00:13:59no I mean I was always a super
- 00:14:03disciplined child like meaning to my
- 00:14:05like I just loved I would put myself to
- 00:14:07bed at 700 p.m. be like my mom would be
- 00:14:10like playing with me and my little
- 00:14:11sister and be like Mom it's 7 I got to
- 00:14:13go to sleep like it's time for my bed
- 00:14:15time she'd be like are you okay and so I
- 00:14:17was always that kid and so I I think I
- 00:14:20just was always really eager to like
- 00:14:21work I don't know why I just like wanted
- 00:14:23to always have something to do something
- 00:14:25that I felt passionate about that I
- 00:14:26really enjoyed and so yeah when I I was
- 00:14:29young I put some flyers around our
- 00:14:31community and said I would walk dogs and
- 00:14:33I ended up getting people that would get
- 00:14:36let me have their dog for a few hours
- 00:14:37and take it for a walk so I loved
- 00:14:39animals and I liked having something to
- 00:14:41do so I spent I was a kid that liked to
- 00:14:43be by myself with animals so like I
- 00:14:47think that that was a cool very fitting
- 00:14:49thing for me cuz I got to be by myself
- 00:14:52walking but then also experience all
- 00:14:53these little dogs with me yeah I wish I
- 00:14:56did that I used to deliver newspapers so
- 00:14:58that was my first job and it's not as
- 00:15:00glamorous in London because it's raining
- 00:15:02was that what you were Desiring or was
- 00:15:04that no I was 14 years old and wanted to
- 00:15:06make some money just like I need a I was
- 00:15:07like I need to make some money yeah and
- 00:15:09so I was like I'm going to start doing
- 00:15:10this and you don't get to you know you'd
- 00:15:12see in the movies where the paper boy
- 00:15:14just like Chucks the paper at the door
- 00:15:16but I'd like to actually go and put it
- 00:15:17inside so my only interaction with dogs
- 00:15:19is they were on the inside grabbing the
- 00:15:21paper and so yeah they barking at you
- 00:15:23yeah they're barking and stuff but I
- 00:15:26always love knowing about people's first
- 00:15:27jobs and and how things started for them
- 00:15:29because of you know obviously where you
- 00:15:30are today but what do you think it was
- 00:15:33in those early years where you just said
- 00:15:36you were very disciplined like it sounds
- 00:15:37like you were you were aware of certain
- 00:15:39habits that you built then what were
- 00:15:41some of the things that you feel
- 00:15:43confident about or how how did you look
- 00:15:45for validation in those early years and
- 00:15:47where did it come from for you I mean
- 00:15:49it's interesting so Kylie my little
- 00:15:51sister she was always the social
- 00:15:53butterfly I was always I just liked
- 00:15:56being to myself I don't know if that's
- 00:15:58the Scorpion in me so it just came
- 00:16:00naturally or whatever I had a I had a
- 00:16:02group of friends who I loved but I just
- 00:16:05I I like can vividly remember just on
- 00:16:07the weekends not running to go be with
- 00:16:09my friends all the time during the
- 00:16:10summer I was with them but on the
- 00:16:12weekends um in between school I would I
- 00:16:14was really just by myself I would love
- 00:16:16to like hang out in my room I like was
- 00:16:19kind of a nerd I loved video games and
- 00:16:21like sitting on the computer and playing
- 00:16:22Sims all day like I just kind of liked
- 00:16:25being to myself and then all day long
- 00:16:27during the summer was with my horses and
- 00:16:30yeah I don't know I just it just brought
- 00:16:31me joy I don't think I have like you
- 00:16:34know a super long explanation for that
- 00:16:37it was so simple for me as a kid like it
- 00:16:39was just as simple as that made me happy
- 00:16:42and that's just what I wanted and it
- 00:16:44explains I guess a lot of me now um I
- 00:16:48went through like a phase where I felt
- 00:16:49like I had to be around people I think I
- 00:16:51live a very social life and my job is
- 00:16:53very social so I was you know kind of
- 00:16:58conditioned to want to be around people
- 00:17:00a lot and then as you know the pandemic
- 00:17:02came around you're not around as many
- 00:17:05people anymore and now I'm just re-
- 00:17:06enjoying being by myself which is really
- 00:17:08cool yeah and um I had the most I had
- 00:17:11the best day on Sunday all by myself I
- 00:17:13got up I went and rode my horses I like
- 00:17:16um took my niece to ride her Pony just
- 00:17:20me and her was so nice brought her back
- 00:17:22home went to my house got in my cold
- 00:17:24plunge went in my pool laid out journals
- 00:17:27like I was having the best and I was
- 00:17:29just pretty much all by myself so I I
- 00:17:31enjoy it so much I love that I'm sure
- 00:17:32that's so refreshing for people to hear
- 00:17:34too because I feel like people may from
- 00:17:36the outside perceive a life which
- 00:17:38obviously like you said for work it's
- 00:17:39busy and it's social and of course you
- 00:17:41have wonderful friends but to know that
- 00:17:43you can feel comfortable in your own
- 00:17:44company and that's been a habit that
- 00:17:46you've developed I crave simple things
- 00:17:49like I I love my life and I love my job
- 00:17:52and I I feel so fortunate that I have
- 00:17:55been placed here that for some reason I
- 00:17:58was given this life like I feel
- 00:18:01immensely grateful for that and I have
- 00:18:03had so much fun and I like think back on
- 00:18:05just the experience that I've had the
- 00:18:06experiences that I've had this far and
- 00:18:08it's like it's like it's shocking to me
- 00:18:10I'm like this is so freaking cool that I
- 00:18:13live this life but at the end of the day
- 00:18:15like when I am home and when I'm alone
- 00:18:16like I crave the simple things I love a
- 00:18:19simple day I love just like a simple
- 00:18:21routine and being to myself and being
- 00:18:24around the people that I love my small
- 00:18:26core crew so yeah that's beautiful yeah
- 00:18:28I mean that's I think that's what we're
- 00:18:30all striving for is that passion in our
- 00:18:32careers and our work and then the
- 00:18:34simplicity at home what would you say I
- 00:18:36I was thinking about this and I've
- 00:18:37watched so many of your interviews and
- 00:18:39and read so much too but what would you
- 00:18:41say for you as being one of your like
- 00:18:44proudest moments or greatest
- 00:18:45achievements or something that you
- 00:18:46really feel like and internally I mean
- 00:18:48like for the basis of our conversation
- 00:18:50like something that really brings you
- 00:18:52Joy internally when you think about it
- 00:18:54or when when you had it like I said I
- 00:18:56look back and the things that I've
- 00:18:59accomplished just even my job like I
- 00:19:01think I really at one point when I was
- 00:19:04younger decided I want to be a model and
- 00:19:06this is what I want to do and the fact
- 00:19:08that I executed because we talk about
- 00:19:10that determination like I really was I
- 00:19:13was 14 years old when I kind of made
- 00:19:15that decision and was like this is what
- 00:19:17I want to do and I went to my mom and I
- 00:19:18was like please help me do this and I
- 00:19:21didn't stop until I was
- 00:19:2424 that I was like okay I think I need
- 00:19:27to like take it back and not which we
- 00:19:29can also get into cuz that's a very kind
- 00:19:31of dramatic story but like I I just knew
- 00:19:35and I think I'm proud of myself for
- 00:19:38being that kid and being determined to
- 00:19:40do that and then executing and doing it
- 00:19:42to the to the level that I had done it
- 00:19:44and that I I guess I still do but I I
- 00:19:47also am proud of I think more so the
- 00:19:51self-work that I've done within that
- 00:19:53process cuz there was a long period of
- 00:19:56time I'd say the core years of it that I
- 00:19:59was extremely
- 00:20:01overworked not my happiest not because I
- 00:20:04wasn't doing what I loved but just
- 00:20:06because I was overwhelmed and I was I
- 00:20:09felt like I was saying yes to everything
- 00:20:11cuz I felt really really grateful and
- 00:20:13really honored to be in the position
- 00:20:15that I was in so I was always saying yes
- 00:20:18and it just took a lot out of me to the
- 00:20:20point where I just wasn't happy anymore
- 00:20:23and so I had to set those boundaries for
- 00:20:26myself when I was about 23 24 I'd say
- 00:20:28like what a year before the pandemic so
- 00:20:30yeah I was probably 23 I really set
- 00:20:33boundaries for myself and I was like I
- 00:20:35want to continue to do this cuz this is
- 00:20:36what I love but I need to start saying
- 00:20:40no when I can and
- 00:20:42prioritizing me and prioritizing like
- 00:20:46you know my happiness and my well-being
- 00:20:49and it has done wonders for me like I
- 00:20:52feel like I can show up better for
- 00:20:54myself and I can show up a better person
- 00:20:57for the people that get to be around me
- 00:20:59that day and you know that I work with
- 00:21:01on that day
- 00:21:02so yeah that's what I'm proud of sorry I
- 00:21:05didn't give you a long answer that's a
- 00:21:07great answer that's an amazing I I was I
- 00:21:09won't say I was hoping for that because
- 00:21:11I I'm always open to wherever anyone's
- 00:21:13life experience goes but there's a part
- 00:21:14of me that loves hearing that like I
- 00:21:16really appreciate hearing that because
- 00:21:18when you've achieved so many incredible
- 00:21:19things in your career which you have to
- 00:21:21then say well this is the part like
- 00:21:22knowing how to navigate it or making the
- 00:21:25right choices at the right time healthy
- 00:21:27balance the healthy balance it's so
- 00:21:29important it's important for all of us
- 00:21:31like we have to this is what we're
- 00:21:33prioritizing you know yeah so how did
- 00:21:36you find the courage to do that at the
- 00:21:3823 Mark as you're saying you're in a
- 00:21:40competitive industry as you said it was
- 00:21:43overwork it's fastpaced I'm guessing
- 00:21:46there's comparison in that industry
- 00:21:47there's competition in that industry
- 00:21:49it's not an easy space to be you're you
- 00:21:52know you're in the top 0.01% in your
- 00:21:55industry so it's it's hard and the
- 00:21:57reason I asked this is because I work
- 00:21:58with so many people in this space and to
- 00:22:01have the courage to say no I know that
- 00:22:04if I sort this out then all of this is
- 00:22:07going to be just fine that actually
- 00:22:09takes more courage than we recognize we
- 00:22:11realize that when you have nothing then
- 00:22:13there's nothing to lose you can actually
- 00:22:14have a lot of Courage but when you have
- 00:22:16everything and there's everything to
- 00:22:17lose and a lot of the time at least what
- 00:22:19I've heard in in town is you know older
- 00:22:22managers and agents and I'm not saying
- 00:22:23you have any of this but people that I
- 00:22:25know will be told well hey if you don't
- 00:22:27do this like you'll be forgotten next
- 00:22:28year or you know your your career is
- 00:22:30only going to last another 6 months how
- 00:22:31did you have that courage to say no no
- 00:22:33no I need to do this like where did that
- 00:22:35come from and I think that it's like
- 00:22:37I've never thought about it that way to
- 00:22:39be completely honest with you I just
- 00:22:41knew that if I had gone any further that
- 00:22:44I was going to lose myself I was at that
- 00:22:47very I was on the Teeter Totter edge of
- 00:22:51that point where had I gone any further
- 00:22:55I was probably not going to be great it
- 00:22:58was so important to me to feel good that
- 00:23:02I just knew that it was something that I
- 00:23:04had to do and I can't say like you're
- 00:23:07absolutely right like there were so many
- 00:23:10people around me that had told me not to
- 00:23:14say no and told or told me yeah told me
- 00:23:16not to say no told me not to stop I
- 00:23:19fought my way out of it a little bit
- 00:23:21because there were people that had
- 00:23:22worked for me that you know didn't want
- 00:23:25me to stop because it might have
- 00:23:26benefited them of course um but I got to
- 00:23:29that point and I just knew I had to do
- 00:23:31it and I I just I don't know I don't
- 00:23:32know how to explain it I guess it was
- 00:23:35just such an unbelievable Sensation that
- 00:23:37I had where I knew that if I do this I'm
- 00:23:40going to be better for everyone and I'm
- 00:23:41going to be better for myself which
- 00:23:43means I'm going to be better for the
- 00:23:44people around me and I have to do this
- 00:23:46and so it wasn't really I want to be
- 00:23:49able to live with happiness God forbid
- 00:23:53any of this ever went away and I think
- 00:23:56that that was a big moment for me of
- 00:23:58being being like I'm going to be okay if
- 00:24:01I don't get this job tomorrow and I'm
- 00:24:03going to be okay if I don't get that job
- 00:24:05in a month if I have to take this time
- 00:24:07to do whatever things will come
- 00:24:09everything's going to work out the way
- 00:24:10it's supposed to and I had to trust that
- 00:24:12so yeah well to me on from the outside
- 00:24:14and it's it's beautiful that you didn't
- 00:24:15see it in yourself because that almost
- 00:24:17makes it even more wonderful but the
- 00:24:18idea that to me from the outside that's
- 00:24:20a lot of Courage yeah it takes a lot of
- 00:24:22Courage it takes a lot of vulnerability
- 00:24:24and openness and and it takes courage at
- 00:24:26every level whether some 's thinking
- 00:24:28about quitting their job to do something
- 00:24:30they love or whether someone's trying to
- 00:24:32relocate their family and doesn't know
- 00:24:34how or whether Someone Like You is
- 00:24:36feeling success but then going well wait
- 00:24:38a minute and I think in the past few
- 00:24:39years we've seen athletes and musicians
- 00:24:41and actors and people in all creative
- 00:24:43industri step back and say well I need
- 00:24:45to put me first and I think that that's
- 00:24:48empowering because I think we hear about
- 00:24:50burnout in work and corporate so often
- 00:24:54sure for sure so what what was it that
- 00:24:57you started to do that new found time at
- 00:25:00that time like where was is that where
- 00:25:01the curio was the Curiosity always there
- 00:25:03and now you could actually follow it it
- 00:25:05was it was it was always there and I had
- 00:25:08had a lot of people coming to me telling
- 00:25:10me about meditation and how it changed
- 00:25:13their life and therapy and so many
- 00:25:16different things and I was a bit
- 00:25:18overwhelmed cuz I was like oh my God
- 00:25:19what of this is going to suit me I think
- 00:25:21it's a very personal experience I think
- 00:25:23everybody has a very different version
- 00:25:25of all of that stuff and so it was a
- 00:25:28little overwhelming so I think I really
- 00:25:29just took the time to be off for a
- 00:25:31second it was even the little things it
- 00:25:33was like being able to go to my friend's
- 00:25:35birthday party which I wouldn't have
- 00:25:37been able to go to before because I was
- 00:25:39working a lot I I love hearing that
- 00:25:40because I think it is those simple
- 00:25:42things like you know giving yourself
- 00:25:44that space whatever it is that you
- 00:25:46needed to do yeah when you needed it and
- 00:25:49and like you said sometimes it's like
- 00:25:50that's when all the Subscribe buttons
- 00:25:52come up in front of you and it's like
- 00:25:53try this and try this and it's like well
- 00:25:54no no no let me just take my time it was
- 00:25:57also now that I think think about it
- 00:25:59yeah 23 I'm 26 I've had my horse for so
- 00:26:03around that time is when I bought the
- 00:26:06horse that I have now who is my like I I
- 00:26:10jump her and I like have I I have two
- 00:26:12other horses but they're like retired so
- 00:26:14I don't really ride them the same way I
- 00:26:16ride her so yeah I guess it was around
- 00:26:18that time too that I was like I'm going
- 00:26:20to do this cuz I love this and like I
- 00:26:22want to get back into it and this is
- 00:26:23what I've loved my whole life so so it
- 00:26:25was around that time that I feel like
- 00:26:27all of that started happening and I
- 00:26:28bought my horse and I like started
- 00:26:30taking more time for things that made me
- 00:26:32really happy yeah what what I what I'm
- 00:26:34noticing in you and observing or at
- 00:26:36least from just no in a good way in a
- 00:26:39good way it's all good I was just saying
- 00:26:41it's like it feels like no matter what's
- 00:26:43happening in your Orit there's this
- 00:26:45pillar of belief that it's important to
- 00:26:48be happy yeah like it you know that's
- 00:26:50like this core Center belief in your
- 00:26:52life where it's like it's important to
- 00:26:53be happy it's important to be happy it's
- 00:26:55that has to be the goal for sure and and
- 00:26:58you know it's not always easy we live in
- 00:27:03such an interesting industry and in such
- 00:27:06an interesting time with social media
- 00:27:09that it can be very hard sometimes you
- 00:27:12can fall victim to so many things that
- 00:27:16don't serve you and that don't make you
- 00:27:18happy if your happiness depends on the
- 00:27:22actions of others you know you're at
- 00:27:25Mercy of things that you can't control
- 00:27:27mhm and that's never where I want to be
- 00:27:30so I I always want to live in like me
- 00:27:33and my therapists talk about like my
- 00:27:34higher goddess my higher self like I
- 00:27:37always want to live there knowing that
- 00:27:40you know when I'm there you can't take
- 00:27:42that away from me that that's mine and
- 00:27:44no matter what you can disagree with me
- 00:27:46you can agree with me that's not going
- 00:27:49my I'm not changing I'm not shifting I'm
- 00:27:51here I'm in my higher goddess so I kind
- 00:27:54of I always live by like keep hold my
- 00:27:58happiness and not letting anyone else
- 00:28:00affect it and though I fall victim to it
- 00:28:02at times as we all probably do
- 00:28:05absolutely I um I strive every day to
- 00:28:07live in that place so what what are some
- 00:28:10of the qualities of your higher goddess
- 00:28:11so that that kind of uh Avatar she's
- 00:28:15awesome like I said I don't love a pity
- 00:28:17party I also like you know sometimes it
- 00:28:20feels weird to like say good things
- 00:28:22about yourself but I've also learned a
- 00:28:24lot about talking to myself and a lot
- 00:28:26about looking in the mirror and being
- 00:28:27like you're great you're gorgeous you're
- 00:28:30amazing you're loyal you're positive
- 00:28:33you're so many like I love words of
- 00:28:35affirmation I love just sitting there
- 00:28:38and reassuring myself of who I am
- 00:28:41because that's another thing for me you
- 00:28:43know there's so many false narratives
- 00:28:46about me about all of us I'm sure like
- 00:28:49so many people think they have you
- 00:28:51figured out when they don't even know
- 00:28:54the half of it so sitting there and
- 00:28:56being like you know you get frustrated
- 00:28:58sometimes it could feel really unfair
- 00:29:00you could be reading something that
- 00:29:01someone is saying about you or hearing
- 00:29:02something that someone's saying about
- 00:29:04you and being like that is so unfair cuz
- 00:29:06that's not who I am and that really gets
- 00:29:09to me sometimes and that really sucks
- 00:29:11but then looking at myself in the mirror
- 00:29:13and being like but I know who I am and
- 00:29:15that's all why does anything else matter
- 00:29:18and my friends know who I am and my
- 00:29:19family knows who I am my dog knows who I
- 00:29:22am my horse knows who I am like why does
- 00:29:24any of everything else is just noise I I
- 00:29:27do this exercise I don't think I've
- 00:29:28shared this before but I do this
- 00:29:30exercise with some of my clients where
- 00:29:31we'll go on a walk and we'll be on a
- 00:29:33hike wherever we are and I'll ask them
- 00:29:36what they think a piece of you know
- 00:29:39maybe there's a little leaf or maybe
- 00:29:41there's some a flower or something that
- 00:29:43looks a little unique on the path and
- 00:29:45I'll say what do you think that feels
- 00:29:47like and what do you think it would feel
- 00:29:49like if you picked it up in your hand
- 00:29:51and they'll be like oh it looks really
- 00:29:52rough and like it might scratch me and
- 00:29:55like it looks like a bit you know like
- 00:29:57uneven or what whatever and it looks
- 00:29:59kind of hard and strong and then I'll
- 00:30:01ask them to pick it up and nine times
- 00:30:03out of 10 it's completely different like
- 00:30:06they'll pick it up and it'll just
- 00:30:07dissolve in their hands or they'll turn
- 00:30:09it over and the color's really soft and
- 00:30:12sorry the shape the shape's really soft
- 00:30:14and the color is totally different on
- 00:30:15the other side and I do that exercise to
- 00:30:17help us realize just how multifaceted
- 00:30:19humans are like today I've got to meet
- 00:30:21you and and obviously we're spending a
- 00:30:23lot of deep intimate vulnerable time
- 00:30:25together so you learn faster about
- 00:30:27someone but if someone only follows
- 00:30:28someone on social media or only sees
- 00:30:30someone at an event or only sees one
- 00:30:32interview it's so easy to create such a
- 00:30:35singular view of someone and I think and
- 00:30:38I want to say this because I really
- 00:30:39think we all feel it I don't think
- 00:30:41anyone wants to be seen in a singular
- 00:30:45way if you had to choose one word that
- 00:30:48had to be you for the rest of your life
- 00:30:50I don't think anyone wants that I think
- 00:30:52we all know that we're messy and complex
- 00:30:55and different of but we like to put
- 00:30:58someone else in a box whoever that may
- 00:31:00be because it's easier then to live life
- 00:31:03and say okay well that's persons a b
- 00:31:06right yeah know so there's this
- 00:31:08beautiful piece of wisdom that I always
- 00:31:09share from Charles Horton coie and he
- 00:31:12wrote this in 1890 I think it was which
- 00:31:15just shows how true this has been for
- 00:31:17such a long time and obviously long
- 00:31:19before that as well and he said the
- 00:31:21challenge today is I'm not what I think
- 00:31:23I am I'm not what you think I am I am
- 00:31:27what I think you think I am and we'll
- 00:31:31let that blow everyone's mind it gives
- 00:31:32me chill every time I say it Charles
- 00:31:35hton coie said the challenge today is
- 00:31:37I'm not what I think I am I'm not what
- 00:31:39you think I am I am what I think you
- 00:31:43think I am and what he's trying to say
- 00:31:45is that we live in a perception of a
- 00:31:48perception of ourselves so if I think
- 00:31:51you think I'm smart then I allow myself
- 00:31:53to feel smart right it's like we need
- 00:31:56that validation need that validation or
- 00:31:58if I think you think I'm not smart then
- 00:32:01I feel hurt and and the challenge is I
- 00:32:04don't know what you're thinking at all
- 00:32:05especially outside in the world and so I
- 00:32:07find that what you're saying around like
- 00:32:09well what do I think about myself like
- 00:32:11how do I feel about myself how do the
- 00:32:12people that actually know me feel about
- 00:32:14me I think that's really empowering I
- 00:32:16wanted to ask you because I feel like
- 00:32:18from from what I've seen and from what
- 00:32:20I've heard you have you have great
- 00:32:21friendships you have a great
- 00:32:22relationship with your family as you
- 00:32:23said like what do you think have been
- 00:32:25really great habits or in relationships
- 00:32:29that have helped you build up good
- 00:32:30friendships and and family relationship
- 00:32:31because I think for so many people
- 00:32:34sometimes their friendships and their
- 00:32:35family can often be the most difficult
- 00:32:37part but I feel like the way you
- 00:32:39communicate or the way you're talking
- 00:32:40about it I'm like okay there's some
- 00:32:41really good habits in place here have
- 00:32:43there been any principles or rules that
- 00:32:45you've learned along the way that have
- 00:32:46been helpful I mean of course honesty um
- 00:32:50I'm a big person on like keeping a
- 00:32:52really honest healthy communicative
- 00:32:56relationship um but but I also think
- 00:32:58like I find it really important to have
- 00:33:02not feel like you're on top of each
- 00:33:03other when you have your family around
- 00:33:05or you're friends around it's okay to
- 00:33:07like sometimes even if you're at like a
- 00:33:09family dinner running to the bathroom
- 00:33:11and just being let me just take a couple
- 00:33:12breaths because this is getting
- 00:33:14overwhelming do you know what I mean so
- 00:33:16I just love to like take a second my
- 00:33:19feelings are valid like sometimes my
- 00:33:21family's a lot which I bet everyone
- 00:33:22already
- 00:33:23knows everyone's families are have a
- 00:33:26sense of crazy to them but but I think
- 00:33:28that I can get really overwhelmed really
- 00:33:30easily I am prone to just you know a
- 00:33:34good amount of anxiety and just being
- 00:33:36extremely overwhelmed and kind of taking
- 00:33:38everything too seriously sometimes so I
- 00:33:40like to just step away sometimes and
- 00:33:42just be like this is okay I'm allowed to
- 00:33:44feel this way it's valid I'm just going
- 00:33:45to take a deep breath and I'm not going
- 00:33:46to react and then I'm going to go back
- 00:33:47out there and I'm going to be
- 00:33:49fine sometimes I do that I love that I
- 00:33:52love how easy it is we don't need no one
- 00:33:53needs to learn a new meditation practice
- 00:33:55or a new things
- 00:33:57simple as that yeah it's as simple as
- 00:33:59that I love that I you know one of the
- 00:34:02things that you know when which which
- 00:34:04really touched my heart when I saw this
- 00:34:05because I think when things happen in
- 00:34:07culture and and everyone talks about it
- 00:34:09but but sometimes you're like okay well
- 00:34:11I can tell that there's a real
- 00:34:12connection here like when when you lost
- 00:34:14Virgil right like that when I when I saw
- 00:34:17your message and what you spoke about it
- 00:34:18I was like wow this is this is someone
- 00:34:20who had a really deep connection with
- 00:34:21this individual and going through grief
- 00:34:23is really really tough like you know
- 00:34:25people who lose and I lost uh two really
- 00:34:27close people to me during the pandemic
- 00:34:29I'm sorry uh one was thank you one was
- 00:34:31one was my spiritual teacher since I was
- 00:34:3312 years old and he died of stage four
- 00:34:36brain cancer and I hadn't seen him
- 00:34:39during the pandemic I couldn't go back
- 00:34:40for his because that was still when it
- 00:34:41was like TI lockdown so I couldn't go
- 00:34:43back for his funeral and you know he'd
- 00:34:46been the person who'd been such a key
- 00:34:48piece of my life and then the other
- 00:34:50person pretty much in the same year was
- 00:34:53my best friend as a monk so he was still
- 00:34:55a monk wow and and he having to get
- 00:34:58cancer and he passed away during the
- 00:34:59pandemic I couldn't see him either and
- 00:35:01he was my age and so to lose someone
- 00:35:03that was you know he was still there and
- 00:35:05so yeah and so and so when I saw your
- 00:35:08you know your wonderful tribute to
- 00:35:10Virgil as well I was like you know how
- 00:35:13how do you process something like that
- 00:35:14when you know it's not only industry
- 00:35:16friends but genuine friendship beyond
- 00:35:18that just how yeah well my first thought
- 00:35:21here is why is it always the best people
- 00:35:24like why is it always these people that
- 00:35:25are just such balls of light in
- 00:35:28everyone's life it's like so you just
- 00:35:31think about it and you're like this is
- 00:35:32so unfair and you're going through every
- 00:35:34emotion and to be honest it was really
- 00:35:38shocking cuz not everyone knew what he
- 00:35:40was um going through and suffering from
- 00:35:44so it was really shocking um I'll never
- 00:35:47forget the day I found out and it just
- 00:35:51absolutely obviously breaks your heart
- 00:35:55and you can't help but be like oh my god
- 00:35:58did I did I ever say enough did I ever
- 00:36:01tell him enough it's really interesting
- 00:36:04to share that feeling with so many
- 00:36:06people it feels good in a way and you're
- 00:36:09just like everyone it makes you feel so
- 00:36:12human and you're sharing this emotion
- 00:36:14with people that knew him people that
- 00:36:15didn't know him people that just loved
- 00:36:18him from afar and it's just a really
- 00:36:22beautiful and incredible thing to a
- 00:36:24certain degree but then also just
- 00:36:26obviously the most
- 00:36:28devastating thing it hits so hard when
- 00:36:31so many people are talking about it and
- 00:36:33so many people are affected by it so it
- 00:36:35was definitely um a really
- 00:36:38shocking really sad time yeah it was
- 00:36:42yeah yeah and those and and it's really
- 00:36:44interesting what you said there is like
- 00:36:45why and and I had that with my spiritual
- 00:36:47teacher for sure I was just like like he
- 00:36:50was you know and and what's really
- 00:36:53powerful about what I could at least
- 00:36:55remember from him at that time was that
- 00:36:57even though he had stage for brain
- 00:36:58cancer which means he'd lost his
- 00:37:00short-term memory and a lot of his
- 00:37:02long-term memory was impaired if you
- 00:37:04ever met him he would just thank you for
- 00:37:07your service to God like he would just
- 00:37:08say thank you for everything you're
- 00:37:10doing for other people and he would just
- 00:37:11be grateful and I was just like that's
- 00:37:14exactly how V was too he was the most
- 00:37:18positive lived life like appreciative
- 00:37:23wanted to say yes to everything wanted
- 00:37:26to just be there for everyone one you
- 00:37:28could literally ask him to design a
- 00:37:30pencil for you and he would be like
- 00:37:32it'll be done tomorrow what do you what
- 00:37:34else do you need like he just had so
- 00:37:37much to give and he gave it and that
- 00:37:40wasn't that was pre his diagnosis that
- 00:37:43was like that was just who Virgil was
- 00:37:46and so to then find out what he found
- 00:37:49out at a certain point in his life and
- 00:37:50still be that person it's still like I'm
- 00:37:52going to show up for everyone and like
- 00:37:55my time here is so special to all these
- 00:37:57other people and I'm going to like be
- 00:37:59here to make them feel amazing is just
- 00:38:03like unreal like it makes you just be
- 00:38:05like what like H how you're how could
- 00:38:09you be that incredible and giving like
- 00:38:10that is so crazy there wasn't a selfish
- 00:38:13bone in that man's body like he was just
- 00:38:15the best so but I'm sorry to hear about
- 00:38:18your oh no I I think it's it's actually
- 00:38:20nice speaking about people that we both
- 00:38:22love in in a s in a in a similar way
- 00:38:24even though they're in such different
- 00:38:26places in life doing very things but to
- 00:38:29talk about someone's and I think that's
- 00:38:30a big part of it for me at least with
- 00:38:32grief that I feel like when I talk about
- 00:38:34the beautiful qualities of the people
- 00:38:36that I lost it gives me so much
- 00:38:39confidence that they want me to live it
- 00:38:43and they want me to try and embody it
- 00:38:45and that how fortunate we are to have
- 00:38:47experienced that type of humanity yeah
- 00:38:49like you know and those are my thoughts
- 00:38:51of him like I think all we ever really
- 00:38:53want as human beings is to be you know
- 00:38:55when we do leave this earth we want to
- 00:38:57be remembered so beautifully and posit
- 00:39:00positively I know at least I do of
- 00:39:02course but like you just want you of
- 00:39:05course want to make people feel
- 00:39:06something and he made so many people
- 00:39:09feel something and for that it is so
- 00:39:11special like what do they say that we
- 00:39:13you know we have our purpose here and I
- 00:39:15know that he fulfilled a purpose here
- 00:39:17that he was supposed to fulfill and I
- 00:39:19think that that's I think about it
- 00:39:22beautifully like I obviously it's a very
- 00:39:24very sad situation and it and it breaks
- 00:39:27my heart but I have nothing but
- 00:39:30beautiful thoughts of him and I think
- 00:39:32that's really cool and really special so
- 00:39:34yeah you thank you for sharing that too
- 00:39:36and I I had to ask you because yeah I
- 00:39:39just I feel I I love hearing amazing
- 00:39:41things about amazing people that you
- 00:39:42know because I think so many of the most
- 00:39:44incredible people I grew up reading
- 00:39:46about people that I never met and I
- 00:39:48spent a lot of my life studying books
- 00:39:50about people that I never met so Malcolm
- 00:39:51X and Martin Luther King and Einstein
- 00:39:54and people that I really see as people
- 00:39:56that have directed so much of my life
- 00:39:59from how they lived and I feel like he
- 00:40:02was potentially one of those people that
- 00:40:03I never met him but whenever I hear
- 00:40:05about him I'm just like oh this is
- 00:40:07someone that we could learn from you
- 00:40:09spoke about purpose there I was
- 00:40:11wondering how has your purpose changed
- 00:40:12you had this very confident view of I
- 00:40:15want to be a mono you know you you've
- 00:40:17superseded exceeded and continue to
- 00:40:19flourish in that world and I and I
- 00:40:21always wish that you do how has your
- 00:40:23purpose evolved as that time's gone on I
- 00:40:26think I've learned learned a lot I've
- 00:40:27learned a lot about myself about what I
- 00:40:30want from my life and which is kind of
- 00:40:32what we've been talking about but um I'm
- 00:40:35actually really excited to get older and
- 00:40:38to learn so much more about not only
- 00:40:41myself but like the journey and the path
- 00:40:44that I I guess want to take and want to
- 00:40:46be on so I'd say you know my purpose has
- 00:40:50evolved from obviously within business
- 00:40:54doing what I want to do and making sure
- 00:40:57I'm happy and finding the thing that I
- 00:40:59love and all those things but I've kind
- 00:41:02of like I said really tuned in to me and
- 00:41:04I think my purpose at least at this very
- 00:41:06moment and what I've kind of evolved
- 00:41:08into is is my higher goddess like I am
- 00:41:11determined to tune into her at all times
- 00:41:14but also as I get older I have so much
- 00:41:18that I want to
- 00:41:21connect with other people and with you
- 00:41:24know AKA social media and people that
- 00:41:27may not know me personally um and just
- 00:41:29you know the following like I said I I
- 00:41:31was given this life for some reason for
- 00:41:34whatever reason I was placed here and I
- 00:41:36do feel a purpose to share and connect
- 00:41:41and put a smile on people's spaces or
- 00:41:43make someone feel a positive feeling and
- 00:41:46so I think that within me wanting to
- 00:41:48achieve me tuning into my higher goddess
- 00:41:51I think that also entails me being a
- 00:41:54great version of myself for other people
- 00:41:56to that than experience and my tips and
- 00:42:00my tools and whatever I can share
- 00:42:02whatever help I can give I I really um
- 00:42:05you know as corny as it sounds I want to
- 00:42:07spread love like I want people to feel
- 00:42:09love I that's really I guess the purpose
- 00:42:13yeah that's that's beautiful I mean what
- 00:42:15more could you ask for yeah right yeah
- 00:42:17and and and it is funny that so much of
- 00:42:18the stuff that is corny or you know
- 00:42:20whatever that's the stuff that's true
- 00:42:22right like that's the stuff it is like
- 00:42:25there's also just we all just like live
- 00:42:27in such a it's an interesting time
- 00:42:29obviously and it can feel really
- 00:42:31negative and I tend to stay off of
- 00:42:35platforms like social media platforms
- 00:42:37because it's hard to look at sometimes
- 00:42:39and it feels really negative so I feel
- 00:42:41like we all just need a little bit of a
- 00:42:42smile sometimes I agree I agree I I post
- 00:42:46these uh videos every day which are just
- 00:42:48these fun silly things that happen in
- 00:42:51the world that my my team will find I'll
- 00:42:53find and I post them every day literally
- 00:42:55for that reason and that reason only
- 00:42:56because I'm like like I may or may say
- 00:42:58may or may not say something that makes
- 00:43:00someone smile but this definitely will
- 00:43:03like this this without a doubt will
- 00:43:05bring some joy to someone's life and if
- 00:43:07if this is the only joy that someone
- 00:43:08experienced I want them to see good in
- 00:43:09the world and believe that there's good
- 00:43:11in the world that's one of my favorite
- 00:43:12things to see on um Tik Tok when I sit
- 00:43:14in my bed at night and fall victim to
- 00:43:16Tik Tok I love to see there's people
- 00:43:19that'll post like um here's like five
- 00:43:22amazing facts that have happened in the
- 00:43:23world in the last couple weeks or
- 00:43:25whatever and it'll be like the you know
- 00:43:27pandas are not extinct anymore and like
- 00:43:30the bar Great Barrier Reef is coming
- 00:43:31back and stuff like that and so I'm like
- 00:43:33that's so cool that's what I want to
- 00:43:34hear exactly and and you know if it was
- 00:43:37like it's going down it's like it's
- 00:43:39going to get a lot of likes and hits but
- 00:43:41if it's going up it doesn't get the same
- 00:43:42attention why do we like gravitate
- 00:43:45towards the negative so much like very
- 00:43:47interesting we have to retrain I I
- 00:43:49genuinely believe it's just a pattern
- 00:43:52it's a pattern and a habit that's been
- 00:43:53adoped for so long AB absolutely and we
- 00:43:56have to retrain
- 00:43:57the clickbait of it all and the whole
- 00:43:59thing and we're like that's going
- 00:44:02downhill I need to see what's happening
- 00:44:03and we just like we do need to retrain
- 00:44:06our brains it's exactly what it is yeah
- 00:44:08and it starts with what you said earlier
- 00:44:10it starts with how we see ourselves it
- 00:44:12is all from that if someone looks in the
- 00:44:14mirror as you were saying earlier or if
- 00:44:16someone just reflects on themselves not
- 00:44:18in physically but just internally yeah
- 00:44:22most of us will spot all the negative
- 00:44:24things about ourself and then we take
- 00:44:26that out into the world spot all the
- 00:44:27negative things about everyone else and
- 00:44:29then we take that out into social media
- 00:44:32so that just propels from if you it's
- 00:44:34all a reflection it's all yeah if we ask
- 00:44:36someone to sit down and write down as
- 00:44:38you said we feel uncomfortable taking a
- 00:44:40compliment or we feel uncomfortable
- 00:44:42saying saying nice about ourselves right
- 00:44:43exactly and so it all starts with our
- 00:44:46relationship with ourselves if we were
- 00:44:47able to find three good things about
- 00:44:49ourselves today I promise you you're
- 00:44:51going to find three good things about
- 00:44:52the person sitting in front of you and
- 00:44:54and that will right exactly uh I do a
- 00:44:58lot of like inner inner child work with
- 00:45:00my um therapist and there's actually a
- 00:45:03trend on Tik Tok that was going around
- 00:45:04but um coincidentally enough we ended up
- 00:45:07naturally speaking about it in my
- 00:45:08session and it was like this trend on
- 00:45:10Tik Tok I guess that was like um like a
- 00:45:13girl being like anytime you're being
- 00:45:16mean to yourself just think this is who
- 00:45:18you're talking about and then it flashes
- 00:45:19to like a photo of her as a kid and so I
- 00:45:22me and my therapist were talking about
- 00:45:24something similar and she was like why
- 00:45:26don't you find like a photo of yourself
- 00:45:27and put it on your bathroom mirror so
- 00:45:30that every morning every night every day
- 00:45:32when you walk into your bathroom mirror
- 00:45:33you're looking at her and you're
- 00:45:34remembering that if there's anything
- 00:45:36negative that you're ever saying about
- 00:45:37yourself if you're ever being mean to
- 00:45:38yourself you're talking about her and so
- 00:45:41I did that and I went into my um I went
- 00:45:44into like my memorabilia closet in my
- 00:45:46house and I was looking through old like
- 00:45:47photo books and I've seen these photo
- 00:45:49books my whole life I've literally seen
- 00:45:50every photo that's been in here and I
- 00:45:53like flipped to a page and there was a
- 00:45:54photo I'd never seen of myself ever it
- 00:45:57was a polaroid so it was the original
- 00:45:59photo and it was just me as a little
- 00:46:01girl with a bow in my hair and a dress
- 00:46:03on and I have like a little alien tattoo
- 00:46:05or something right here and I'm like
- 00:46:07have this big cheesy smile on my face
- 00:46:09and I was like that's the photo I'm
- 00:46:10putting on my thing I can show you the
- 00:46:12photo later I have a picture of it on my
- 00:46:13phone but um so I pasted it on my
- 00:46:16bathroom mirror and I talked to her and
- 00:46:19I'm always like if I'm ever looking in
- 00:46:20the mirror and being negative towards
- 00:46:22myself or anything I always look right
- 00:46:24over to her and I'm like she's dope and
- 00:46:26I love her and so it's just another way
- 00:46:29of just self love I love that that's
- 00:46:30such a great tool that's such a great
- 00:46:32tool my team found a kid picture of me
- 00:46:34and made an embarrassing version of that
- 00:46:35Trend so I'll show you that too but oh
- 00:46:37awesome okay so you know it yeah I know
- 00:46:39exactly I know exactly you're talking
- 00:46:41about as well K you were saying earlier
- 00:46:43that you know you you wanted to come
- 00:46:44here and you you wanted to share and
- 00:46:46manifested and you there were things you
- 00:46:47wanted to share what is it that's on
- 00:46:48your heart that you've wanted to share
- 00:46:51that maybe we didn't go there today
- 00:46:52already or is there something on your
- 00:46:53mind and heart as an experience or a any
- 00:46:56anything that really Drew you here and
- 00:46:59made this happen right like I want to
- 00:47:02honor that I think we've obvious we've
- 00:47:04honestly touched a lot of what I felt
- 00:47:06like I would have loved to get off my
- 00:47:08heart I don't know I was really excited
- 00:47:10honestly to come here and share a little
- 00:47:15bit of me that I feel is very sometimes
- 00:47:19scary for me to share and um like I said
- 00:47:21I came in here and I was a little
- 00:47:22nervous cuz this is important to me and
- 00:47:24like this part of
- 00:47:27you know everyone's journey and and what
- 00:47:29we're talking about today is it's so
- 00:47:31important I really that was I guess my
- 00:47:33intention here today was to come in and
- 00:47:35share a little bit of me and maybe for
- 00:47:38whoever's watching they find some
- 00:47:40comfort in this or some Joy from this or
- 00:47:43they understand me a little bit more you
- 00:47:45know what I mean so I think that we've
- 00:47:47hit a lot of really cool points and yeah
- 00:47:50I mean I feel I feel really good good I
- 00:47:52wanted to honor that I I asked that
- 00:47:54because you know I think I think when
- 00:47:57when you feel you're in that flow with
- 00:47:59someone and yeah I I feel like you know
- 00:48:01we've learned so many new things about
- 00:48:02you today and there's so many moments
- 00:48:03where I'm like I just feel like you're
- 00:48:05so comfortable and and you've been so
- 00:48:07open with us but I just wanted to honor
- 00:48:09that and make sure that you feel that
- 00:48:11you've really felt heard and seen I
- 00:48:13appreciate that thank you so I want be
- 00:48:15hope so we all want to just be
- 00:48:16understood at the end of the day so I
- 00:48:19think the closer you get to people
- 00:48:22humans the closer you get to people of
- 00:48:25different backgrounds and different
- 00:48:26walks of
- 00:48:27Life the more you start to recognize how
- 00:48:30similar we all are yeah exactly and how
- 00:48:32many challenges we all share despite how
- 00:48:35much money someone has in the bank
- 00:48:37despite how much Fame someone has
- 00:48:38despite how much follows someone has and
- 00:48:41what we find is that everyone feels
- 00:48:43their own guilt for where they are and
- 00:48:44everyone feels their own pressure for
- 00:48:46where they are and everyone feels their
- 00:48:48own challenge for where they are and you
- 00:48:49just start to realize that we all have
- 00:48:51the same emotions exactly in different
- 00:48:54mixes yeah we're all just having a human
- 00:48:56experience exactly we're all just going
- 00:48:58day by day I think we all need to be a
- 00:49:01little bit kinder to each other and just
- 00:49:04take it easy on some people so cuz we
- 00:49:06are we're all we all have our own
- 00:49:08struggles and um I don't know I'm I'm an
- 00:49:11empath so I like feel for things and I
- 00:49:14feel for people and um yeah yeah and it
- 00:49:18starts with you the the person right
- 00:49:20yeah it's exactly I thought you meant me
- 00:49:22I was like I I don't want that power I
- 00:49:25was like thank you I I meant that to our
- 00:49:28listener like it starts with yourself
- 00:49:30like if you can be kinder to yourself
- 00:49:32chances are you're going to be I I found
- 00:49:35that the days I stopped judging myself I
- 00:49:37stopped judging others because it it
- 00:49:39changed how I saw Humanity so uh Kendall
- 00:49:43we end every on purpose episode with a
- 00:49:45final five which is a fast five round I
- 00:49:48ask you a question and you answer it
- 00:49:51with a one word or one sentence maximum
- 00:49:53so it's super quick and short and we
- 00:49:55have to whisk you away because you need
- 00:49:56you need to go to your next appointment
- 00:49:58uh but okay so the first question is
- 00:50:01what's something you're curious about
- 00:50:02right now ooh
- 00:50:05um I am super curious about I was saying
- 00:50:10how I love um Michael Singer and I think
- 00:50:13what I really love I'm reading uh the
- 00:50:15surrender experiment right now and I'm
- 00:50:16only in the first couple chapters so
- 00:50:18he's basic this is not a quick answer
- 00:50:20it's I love please please he's basically
- 00:50:22at the first part of the book where he's
- 00:50:24talking about how he was curious about
- 00:50:27meditation and how he got into
- 00:50:28meditation and how he really just was
- 00:50:30like on a trip with his friends and his
- 00:50:32girlfriend in the woods and like sat in
- 00:50:33a corner or sat at a tree and was like
- 00:50:35I'm going to just really dive into this
- 00:50:36and see what happens that's what I'm
- 00:50:38curious about right now it's just
- 00:50:40actually like I meditate I do a lot of
- 00:50:42breathing work breathing exercises and I
- 00:50:44just really want to tap in yeah like
- 00:50:47Michael Singer did I love that that's
- 00:50:49that's a great answer that's a great
- 00:50:50answer uh second question if there's
- 00:50:52anything that you're working on
- 00:50:53personally right now what are you
- 00:50:54working on on yourself is there any yes
- 00:50:57um I'm working on I'm working on
- 00:51:00boundaries and I'm working on not my
- 00:51:04stresser like I can stress about things
- 00:51:07in my mind and I overthink and I just so
- 00:51:09I'm really working on like calming down
- 00:51:12and just letting things flow better and
- 00:51:15not being so controlling over things
- 00:51:17especially that I can't control love it
- 00:51:19so uh question number three uh what's
- 00:51:22your favorite thing about founding 818
- 00:51:25ooh um entrepreneur and being a Founder
- 00:51:28probably that like I I you know was a
- 00:51:31model and I worked for people a lot I
- 00:51:34kind of love being my own boss and
- 00:51:36really being able to have my own
- 00:51:39creative a place where I can be creative
- 00:51:42and just really express my creativity
- 00:51:44and have so much fun doing all of that
- 00:51:46creative stuff and I've learned so much
- 00:51:49and learning about the culture and
- 00:51:50learning about the tequila and
- 00:51:52everything like I've just had the best
- 00:51:54time so I love that uh question number
- 00:51:56four what's something you used to Value
- 00:51:58but you don't value
- 00:51:59anymore
- 00:52:02validation great answer I don't care
- 00:52:04anymore great answer at least I'm
- 00:52:06telling myself that yes yeah well we
- 00:52:08have to make it a thought first no but
- 00:52:11it it's true like I used to care so much
- 00:52:13more about validation I really don't
- 00:52:15care anymore at least thank yeah uh
- 00:52:19Fifth and final question if you could
- 00:52:20create one law that everyone in the
- 00:52:22world had to follow what would it be ooh
- 00:52:25I would do like like on like a Sunday
- 00:52:28you have to take half the day and like
- 00:52:30not look at your phone or something
- 00:52:32that's great I love that that's a legit
- 00:52:34L that's great right would be kind of
- 00:52:36nice or the full day being really crazy
- 00:52:39I love that idea I love that uh Ken
- 00:52:41Jenner everyone this was amazing Kendall
- 00:52:43this honestly uh and I'm excited to
- 00:52:47catch up afterwards too but this there
- 00:52:49was just so much flow and Synergy in
- 00:52:50this whole thing happening and I
- 00:52:52couldn't thank you more for doing this
- 00:52:54with me here on on purpose and I hope
- 00:52:57that this is the first of many times
- 00:52:58that we'll did this but I hope it's the
- 00:53:00beginning of a beautiful friendship and
- 00:53:02relationship and uh sure I want to
- 00:53:05everyone who's been listening or
- 00:53:05watching back at home please let me and
- 00:53:08Kendall know tag us letting us know what
- 00:53:10resonated with you what connected with
- 00:53:11you like what was it that you've got
- 00:53:13curious about or what were something she
- 00:53:15said that just shifted your perspective
- 00:53:17or where you learned something new I'd
- 00:53:18love to hear it I know there were tons
- 00:53:20of moments for me where I was listening
- 00:53:23going this is amazing this is incredible
- 00:53:25this is awesome so any wisd nuggets that
- 00:53:27stuck out to you please let us know cuz
- 00:53:29I love seeing uh what made a difference
- 00:53:31in your life as well and a big thank you
- 00:53:33to Kendall for opening our heart and
- 00:53:36opening up our mind I'm honored thank
- 00:53:38you so much thank you thank you so much
- 00:53:40that's amazing if you want even more
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