2025 Might be the ABSOLUTE Worst Year to Retire

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Summary

TLDRThe video emphasizes the importance of preparing for financial challenges as investors and retirees approach 2025. It identifies three main risks: sequence of return risk, which can adversely affect retirees withdrawing funds during downturns; inflation, which erodes purchasing power; and current stock market valuations that appear historically high. Using metrics like the CAPE ratio and Buffett indicator, the video suggests that now is a critical time for financial planning, especially for those transitioning into retirement. It stresses adapting withdrawal strategies in line with market conditions and remains vigilant about economic trends such as AI advancements.

Takeaways

  • 📉 Sequence of return risk highlights the danger of withdrawing funds during market downturns.
  • 💰 Dollar cost averaging benefits investors; for retirees, it can exacerbate withdrawal issues.
  • 📊 Inflation significantly impacts the real value of retirement funds over time.
  • 💡 High market valuations suggest caution for both investors and retirees.
  • 📈 The CAPE ratio and Buffett indicator are key metrics for assessing stock market valuation.

Timeline

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    The speaker discusses the critical importance of preparing for 2025 as both an investor and a retiree, aware of potential challenges such as sequence of return risk. This risk highlights the danger of withdrawing funds from an investment account during market downturns. The conversation emphasizes the need for strategic financial planning, particularly regarding withdrawal rates during retirement. An article referenced points out methods to mitigate these risks, focusing on historical market performance and withdrawal strategies in different time periods. Notably, the speaker illustrates how inflation intensifies these risks, especially if one retires during unfavorable market conditions. The discussion culminates in the identification of three major financial threats: sequence of return risk, inflation, and stock market valuation, urging individuals to factor these into their long-term investment decisions.

Mind Map

Video Q&A

  • What is sequence of return risk?

    It refers to the risk of receiving lower or negative market returns early in retirement, which can significantly affect the longevity of retirement savings.

  • How does inflation impact retirement funds?

    Inflation decreases the purchasing power of money over time, making it challenging for retirees to maintain their standard of living when withdrawing funds.

  • What are common indicators of stock market valuation?

    The CAPE ratio and Buffett indicator are commonly used to assess market valuations.

  • Is the stock market currently overvalued?

    Yes, the video suggests that based on historical measures, the stock market is at high valuations.

  • What strategies can retirees use to mitigate risks?

    Retirees can consider adjusting their withdrawal strategies based on market performance and inflation.

  • What are the main enemies for investors and retirees?

    The main enemies are sequence of return risk, inflation, and market valuation.

  • Why is asset allocation important for retirement planning?

    Asset allocation helps manage risks and ensure a sustainable withdrawal strategy in retirement.

  • What should individuals keep in mind about market timing?

    While timing the market is not advised, individuals should be aware of current valuations when planning long-term investment strategies.

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    if you're an investor in the stock
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    market or if you're thinking about
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    retiring this year you've got to give
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    some long hard thought to 2025 for an
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    investor you've just come off of two
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    very strong years in the stock market
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    for a retiree this is when you're about
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    to start transitioning from putting
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    money into your account to starting to
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    take your money out of the account and
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    there's three main enemies for all of us
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    and and the first one is one you may
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    have heard of but I want to use use it
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    as a lead into Enemy Number Two so the
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    first enemy is sequence of return risk
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    which is How likely are you to get bad
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    returns early in in as you're taking
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    money out as a retire if you're taking
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    money out as an investor now the the the
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    pleasant cousin to sequence a return
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    risk is dollar cost averaging if the
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    market starts going down and you're
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    putting money in that's a good thing for
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    you but if you're taking money out the
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    evil cousin of dollar cost averaging is
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    sequence a return risk which is just a
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    fancy way of saying you got unlucky so
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    whether you're retiring or you're you're
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    an investor and you have 10 years 20
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    years from retirement looking at 2025 is
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    important so let's start with sequence
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    of return risk and then I'll get into
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    the other two big enemies and there's an
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    an article that was published on medium
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    that I think is really good it's called
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    sequence of return risk is overstated
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    and the author is aravan and in in his
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    case instead of using like the 4% rule
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    he used a different method which is a a
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    5% withdrawal rate but if the market
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    starts going down you get the bigger of
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    either or 5% of of your retirement
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    account value or 95% of last year value
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    so it's just a way to reduce you're
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    spending if you get unlucky and you have
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    that sequence of return risk and he
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    looked at at several different periods
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    let's start off
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    1929 the the Great Depression you can
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    see here using that somebody goes on
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    nominal dollars if they had a million
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    dollars which back then was a lot of
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    money they would spend 50,000 a year and
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    it drops down to 30,000 a year so that
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    was a long time but time ago but what
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    about in the modern stock history
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    they're the worst year you could have
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    retired according to him was 1966 as far
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    as sequence or return risk you can see
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    they start off at 50,000 in 15 years
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    later that person is still taking
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    roughly $50,000 a year out of the
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    account and more recently if You'
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    retired just before the great uh uh the
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    dot bubble burst you can see You'd start
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    off at
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    $50,000 you'd drop down to a little over
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    $41,000 and then go back up to the
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    50,000 and then more recently the great
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    financial crisis you'd start off at
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    50,000 would bump up a little bit but
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    then you'd go down to about
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    $46,000 not that big of a deal given the
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    extreme level of of stock market drop
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    right top to bottom the S&P 500 was down
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    almost 60% 60% the S&P 500 so um now he
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    wants to go back and he wants to look at
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    1966 more closely to share what the
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    second enemy is so the first one is
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    nominal dollars right 1966 as a reminder
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    started off at at $50,000 it bottomed
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    out at a little less than
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    $45,000 so so what's the big deal it's
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    it's not that big of a change well if
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    you take inflation into account it is
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    because look at this it's 13 14 years
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    into retirement so in the next chart in
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    this medium article he shows what the
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    impact of inflation is and it's just
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    devastating right that you go from
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    50,000 and it's just a a one-way ride
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    down for 15 years when you're taking
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    inflation into account to the point
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    where this family is spending
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    17,31 so this is the dangerous sequence
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    it's not just the sequence of return
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    risk it's inflation as well so if
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    inflation had not been as bad as what it
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    was then then the pain for this family
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    if inflation had been zero you know that
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    family would have gone down again to
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    45,000
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    44,500 somewhere in that range and they
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    would have been fine but the combination
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    of inflation the combination of the
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    amount of time that it took brought this
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    family down to
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    177,000 um $300 so what's what's Enemy
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    Number Two for an investor what's Enemy
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    Number Two for a rety it's inflation
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    it's inflation and then of course you
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    know enemy number three is one that
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    we're talking a lot about which is
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    valuation is the stock market overvalued
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    because if if if you're an investor and
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    you've just come off a two great years
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    boy you'd hate to lose that and if
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    you're a retiree and you're trying to
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    invest your money
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    conservatively the nice thing about um
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    becoming financially independent is we
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    only have to do that once in our lives
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    and once we become financially
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    independent then job number one be comes
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    don't lose our financial Independence so
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    valuation of the stock market is really
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    important as we're thinking about our
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    long-term asset allocation I am not
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    saying you should time the market but
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    what I am saying is you should take
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    current valuations into mind when you're
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    thinking about what your long-term asset
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    allocation is going to be so let's look
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    at asset allocation we really have
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    there's there's two valuation measures
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    that I have a lot of respect for the
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    first one was developed by Professor
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    Robert Schiller of yell
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    University and it's it's it's called the
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    the the cape ratio the cyclically
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    adjusted PE ratio don't let that scare
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    you off it's basically a 10-year average
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    of how much investors are willing to pay
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    for a dollar of earnings from a company
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    so it's the 10-year average price to
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    earning ratio and and here we can see
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    what that is um so in January AR of
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    2024 that number was uh
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    32.2 it's risen since then as we all
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    know the stock market in 2024 was up
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    over
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    20% but even at the beginning of 2024
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    that was one and a half standard
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    deviations above what the norm has been
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    so because it's a 10year number it's not
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    going to dramatically increas but it is
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    going to increase that number so by
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    Schiller's definition we are at his
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    historically High valuations the other
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    investor I really like to follow and I
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    know a lot of folks do is Warren Buffett
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    and he has some called the buffet
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    indicator which he looks at a country's
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    total stock market value and divides
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    that um by the annual GDP the gross
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    domestic product of that country and so
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    as of May of
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    2024 that number was about 2x so the
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    stock market value back then was
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    55.8 trillion
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    the US economy back then was a little
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    over
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    8028 trillion so that gives us a ratio
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    of 2x and you can see here that puts us
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    you know unfortunately about two
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    standard deviations away so is the
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    market expensive you know a lot of
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    people will mince words on this but yeah
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    I think historically it is expensive I'm
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    not going to mince words does that mean
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    the Market's going to correct does that
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    mean there's going to be a drop in the
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    stock market Market I don't know I wish
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    I had that Crystal Ball but I don't have
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    that but by historic measures the stock
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    market is
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    expensive now every time when the stock
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    market gets expensive there could be
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    reasons for it right when the internet
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    first came out forget about the dot
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    companies but for everyday mom and pop
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    companies for uh Fortune 500 companies
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    the internet allowed those compan all of
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    the companies all of us to work better
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    faster and get more done than ever
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    before and now we have ai coming into
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    the equation which is the ability to
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    again do more hopefully less expensively
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    so it's important that all of us keep
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    our skills up keep up this latest trend
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    of AI I do think is significant another
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    thing that's significant that is in our
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    control is when we think about retiring
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    and that's why I made this video up here
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    why waiting the 65 to retire might be a
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    big mistake thanks for watching this
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    video bye-bye
Tags
  • investing
  • retirement
  • financial planning
  • market valuation
  • inflation
  • sequence of return risk
  • CAPE ratio
  • Buffett indicator
  • asset allocation
  • 2025