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michael thank you so much and thanks to
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thanks to all of you for the chance to
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be together and to think together this
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is indeed a a complicated and
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fastchanging time and a and and a very
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dangerous one so we really need clarity
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of thought i was an adviser to the
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Polish government in
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1989 uh to uh President Gorbachev in
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1990 and 911 to President Yelen in 1991
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to
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1993 to President KMA of Ukraine in
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1993 94 I've watched the events very
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close up for 36 years uh after the
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Maidan I was uh asked by the new
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government to come to Kiev and I was
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taken around the Maidan and I learned a
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lot of things uh
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firsthand i I've been in touch with
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Russian leaders for more than 30
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years i know the American political
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leadership
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uh close up uh our previous uh secretary
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of treasury was my macroeconomics
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teacher uh 51 years ago uh or just to
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give you an idea so we were very close
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friends for a half century i know all of
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these people i just want to say this
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because what I want to explain in my
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point of view is not uh secondhand it's
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not ideology it's what I've seen with my
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own eyes and experienced during this
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period in my understanding of the events
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that have befallen Europe in many
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contexts
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uh and I'll include not only the uh
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Ukraine crisis uh but uh Serbia
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1999 the wars in the Middle East
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including
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Iraq Syria uh the wars in Africa
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including Sudan Somalia uh
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Libya these are to a very significant
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extent that would surprise you perhaps
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uh and would be
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denounced about what I'm about to say
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these are wars that the United States
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led and caused the United States came to
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the
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view especially in 1990 911 and then
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with the end of the Soviet Union that
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the US now ran the
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world and that the US did not have to
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heed
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anybody's views red lines concerns
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security
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viewpoints or any international
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obligations s or any UN framework i'm
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sorry to put it so plainly but I do want
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you to
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understand I tried very hard in
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1991 to get help for Gorbachev who I
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think was the greatest statesman of our
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modern time
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i recently read the uh archived memo of
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the National Security Council discussion
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of my proposal how they
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completely dismissed it and laughed it
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off the table when I said that the
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United States should help the Soviet
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Union in financial
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stabilization and in making its reforms
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and the memo documents including some of
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my former colleagues at Harvard in
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particular saying we will do the
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minimum that we will do to prevent
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disaster but the minimum it's not our
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job to help quite the contrary it's not
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our interest to
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help when the Soviet Union ended in
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1991 the view became even more
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exaggerated and I can name chapter and
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verse but the view was we run the
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show cheney Wolawitz and many other
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names that you will have come to
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know literally believed this is now a US
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world and we will do as we want we will
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clean up from the former Soviet Union we
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will take out any remaining allies
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countries like Iraq Syria and so forth
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will
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go
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and we've been experiencing this foreign
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policy for
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now essentially 33
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years europe has paid a heavy price for
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this because Europe has not had any
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foreign policy during this period that I
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can figure out
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no voice no unity no clarity no European
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interests only American loyalty
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there were moments where there were
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disagreements and very uh I think uh
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wonderful disagreements especially in
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the last time of significance was 2003
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in the Iraq war when France and Germany
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said we don't support the United States
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going around the UN security council for
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this war that war by the way was
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directly concocted by
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Netanyahu and his colleagues in the US
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uh
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Pentagon i'm not saying that it was a
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link or mutuality i'm saying it was a
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direct
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war that was a war carried out for
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Israel it was a war that Paul Wolawitz
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and Douglas Feith coordinated with
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Netanyahu and that was the last time
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that Europe had a
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voice and I spoke with European leaders
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then and they were very clear and it was
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uh quite wonderful
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europe lost its voice entirely after
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that but especially in
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2008 now what happened after 1991 to get
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to 2008 is that the United States
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decided that unipolarity meant that NATO
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would
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enlarge somewhere from Brussels to
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Vladivosto step by step there would be
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no end to eastward enlargement of
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NATO this would be the US unipolar world
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if you played the game of risk as a
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child like I did this is the US idea to
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have the peace on every part of the
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board any place without a US military
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base is an enemy
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basically neutrality is a dirty word in
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the US political
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lexicon perhaps the dirtiest word at
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least if you're an enemy we know you're
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an enemy uh if you are neutral you're
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subversive because then you're really
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against us because you're not telling us
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you're pretending to be neutral
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so this was the mindset and the decision
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was taken formally in
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1994 when President Clinton signed off
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on NATO enlargement to the east you will
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recall that in February 7th
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1991 Hans Dietra Genture and James Baker
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III spoke with Gorbachev
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genture gave a press conference
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afterwards where he explained "NATO will
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not move eastward we will not take
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advantage of the dissolution of the
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Warsaw pact." And understand that was in
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a jeritical
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context not a casual context this was
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the end of World War II being negotiated
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for German
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reunification and an agreement was made
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that NATO will not move one inch
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eastward and it was explicit and it is
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in countless documents and just look up
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national security archive of George
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Washington University and you can get
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dozens of documents it's a website
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called what Gorbachov heard about NATO
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take a look because everything you're
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told by the US is a lie about this but
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the archives are perfectly
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clear so the decision was taken in
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1994 to expand NATO all the way to
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Ukraine this is a project this is not
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one administration or another this is a
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US government project that started more
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than 30 years
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ago in
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1997 Ziggnu Bjinski wrote the grand
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chessboard that is not just musings of
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Mr bjinski that is the presentation of
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the decisions of the United States
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government explained to the public which
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is how these books
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work and the book describes the eastward
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enlargement of Europe and of NATO as
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simultaneous
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events and there's a good chapter in
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that book that says what will Russia do
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as Europe and NATO expand
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eastward and I knew Zig Bjinski
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personally he was very nice to me uh I
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was advising Poland he was a big help he
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was a very nice and smart man and he got
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everything
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wrong so in 1997 he wrote in detail why
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Russia could do nothing but exceed to
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the eastward expansion of NATO and
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Europe in fact he says the eastward
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expansion of Europe and not just Europe
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but NATO this was a plan a
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project and he explains how Russia will
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never align with
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China
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unthinkable russia will never align with
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Iran russia has no vocation other than
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the European vocation so as Europe moves
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east there's nothing Russia can do about
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it
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so says yet another American
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strategist is it any question why we're
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in war all the
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time because one thing about America is
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we always know what our counterparts are
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going to do and we always get it wrong
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and one reason we always get it wrong is
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that in game theory that the American
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strategists play you don't actually talk
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to the other side you just know what the
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other side's strategy is that's it's
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wonderful it saves so much
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time you don't need any diplomacy
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so this project began and we had a
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continuity of government for 30 years
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until maybe yesterday
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perhaps 30 years of a project ukraine
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and Georgia were the keys to the project
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why
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because America learned everything it
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knows from the
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British and so we
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are the wannabe British
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Empire and what the British Empire
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understood in
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1853 Mr palmer Lord Palmerston excuse
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me is that you surround Russia in the
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Black Sea and you deny Russia access to
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the Eastern
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Mediterranean and all you're watching is
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an American project to do that in the
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21st century
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the idea
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was that there would be
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Ukraine Romania Bulgaria Turkey and
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Georgia as the Black Sea
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literal that would deprive Russia of any
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international status by
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blocking the Black Sea and essentially
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by neutralizing Russia as more than a
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local
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power bjinski is completely clear about
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this and before Bjinsky there was
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Mckinder and who owns the island of the
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world owns the world so this project
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goes back a long time i think it goes
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back basically to
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Palmerston in 19 and again I've lived
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through every administration i've known
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these presidents i've known their
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teams nothing changed much from Clinton
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to Bush to Obama to Trump won to
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Biden maybe they got worse step by
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step biden was the worst in my view uh
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maybe also because he was not compass
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menus for the last couple of years and I
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say that seriously not as a snarky
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remark the American political system is
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a system of image it's a system of media
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manipulation every day it is a PR system
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and so you could have a president that
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basically doesn't function and have that
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in power for two years and actually have
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that president run for reelection and
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one damn thing is he had to stand on a
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stage for 90 minutes by himself and that
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was the end of it had it not been that
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mistake he would have gone on to have
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his candidacy whether he was sleeping
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after 400 p.m in the afternoon or
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not so this is actually the reality
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everybody goes along with it it's
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impolite to say anything that I'm saying
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because we don't speak the truth about
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almost anything in this world right
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now so this project went on from the
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1990s bombing Bgrade 78 straight days in
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1999 was part of this
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project splitting apart the country when
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borders are sacrosanked aren't they
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indeed except for Kosovo
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that's fine because borders are
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sacrosanked except when America changes
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them sudan was another related
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project the South Sudan rebellion did
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that just happen because South Sudin
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rebelled or can I give you the CIA
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playbook to please
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understand as grown-ups what this is
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about
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military events are costly they require
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equipment
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training base camps
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intelligence finance that comes from big
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powers that doesn't come from local
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insurrections south Sudan did not defeat
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North Sudan or
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Sudan in a tribal battle
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it was a US
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project i would go often to Nairobi and
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meet US military or senators or others
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with deep interests in Sudan's
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politics this was part of the game of
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unipolarity
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so the NATO enlargement as you know
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started in 1999 with Hungary Poland and
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the Czech
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Republic and Russia was extremely
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unhappy about it but these were
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countries still far from the border and
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Russia
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protested but of course to no avail then
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George Bush Jr came in when 9/11
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occurred president Putin pledged all
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support and then the US uh decided in
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September
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20th
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2001 that it would launch seven wars in
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five years and you can listen to General
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Wesley Clark online talk about that he
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was NATO Supreme Commander in 1999
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he went to the Pentagon on September
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20th 2001 he was handed the paper
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explaining seven wars these by the way
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were Netanyahu's wars the idea was
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partly to clean up old Soviet allies and
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partly to take out supporters of Hamas
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and
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Hezbollah because Netanyahu's idea was
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there will be one state thank you only
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one state it will be Israel israel will
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control all of the territory and anyone
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that objects we will overthrow not we
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exactly our friend the United States
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that's US policy until this
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morning we don't know whether it will
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change now the only wrinkle is that
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maybe the US will own Gaza instead of
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Israel owning Gaza
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but the idea has been around at least
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for 25
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years it actually goes back to a
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document called clean break that
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Netanyahu and his American political
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team put together in 1996 to end the
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idea of the two-state solution you can
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also find it
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online so these are projects these are
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long-term events these aren't is it
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Clinton is it Bush is it
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Obama that's the boring way to look at
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American politics as the dayto-day game
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but that's not what American politics
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is so the next round of NATO enlargement
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came in 2004 with seven more
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countries the three Baltic states
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Romania Bulgaria Slovenia and Slovakia
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at this point Russia was pretty damn
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upset this was a complete violation of
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the post war
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agreed with German
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reunification essentially it was
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a it it was a fundamental trick or
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defection of the US from a cooperative
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arrangement is what it amounted to
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because they believe in uniolarity
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so as everybody recalls because we just
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had the Munich Security Conference last
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week in 2007 President Putin said "Stop
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enough enough stop
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now." And of course what that meant was
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in 2008 the United States jammed down
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Europe's throat enlargement of NATO to
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Ukraine and to Georgia this is a
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long-term
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project i listened to Mr sakashi in New
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York in May of 2008 and I walked out
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called Sonia and said "This man's
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crazy." And a month later a war broke
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out because the United States told this
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guy "We save Georgia." And he stands at
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the Council on Foreign Relations says
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"Georgia's in the center of Europe."
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Well it ain't ladies and gentlemen it's
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not in the center of Europe
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and the most recent events are not
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helpful for Georgia for its safety and
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your MPs going there or MEPs going there
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and European politicians that gets
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Georgia destroyed that doesn't save
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Georgia that gets Georgia
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destroyed completely destroyed in 2008
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as everybody knows our former CIA
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director William Burns sent a long
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message back to Condisa Rice net means
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net about expansion this we know from
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Julian Assange because believe me not
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one word is told to the American people
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about anything or to you or by any of
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your newspapers these days
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so we have Julian Assange to thank but
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we can read the memo in
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detail as you know Victor Yanukovich was
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elected in 2010 on the platform of
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neutrality russia had no
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territorial interests or designs in
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Ukraine at all i know I was there during
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these pe these years what Russia was
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negotiating was a 25-year lease to 20
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42 for Savasto naval base that's
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it not for Crimea not for the Donbas
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nothing like
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that this idea that Putin is
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reconstructing the Russian Empire this
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is childish propaganda excuse me if
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anyone knows the daytoday and
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year-to-year history this is childish
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stuff childish stuff seems to work
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better than adult
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stuff so no designs at all the United
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States decided this man must be
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overthrown it's called a regime change
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operation
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there have been about a hundred of them
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by the United States many in your
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countries and many all over the
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world that's what the CIA does for a
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living okay please know it it's a very
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unusual kind of foreign policy
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but in America if you don't like the
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other side you don't negotiate with them
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you try to overthrow
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them preferably
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covertly if it doesn't work covertly you
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do it
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overtly you always say "It's not our
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fault they're the aggressor they're the
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other side they're Hitler." That comes
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up every two or three years whether it's
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Saddam Hussein whether it's Assad
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whether it's Putin that's very
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convenient that's the only foreign
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policy explanation the American people
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are ever given
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anywhere well we're facing Munich 1938
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well we're facing Munich 1938 can't talk
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to the other side they're evil
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implacable foes
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that's the only model of foreign policy
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we ever hear from our mass media and the
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mass media repeats it entirely because
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it's completely suborned by the US
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government
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now in
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2014 the
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US worked actively to overthrow
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Yanukovich
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everybody knows the phone call
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intercepted by my Columbia University
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colleague Victoria
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Nuland and the US Ambassador Peter
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Pat you don't get better evidence the
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Russians intercepted her call and they
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put it on the internet listen to it it's
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fascinating i know all these
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people by the way by doing that they all
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got promoted in the Biden administration
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that's the job now when the Maidan
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occurred I was called immediately oh
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Professor Saxs the new Ukrainian prime
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minister would like to see you to talk
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about the economic
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crisis because I'm pretty good at
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that and so I flew to
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Kiev and I was walked around the
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Maidan and I was told how the US paid
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the money for all the people around the
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Maidan
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spontaneous revolution of
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dignity ladies and gentlemen
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please where do all these media outlets
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come from where does all this
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organization come from where do all
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these buses come from where do all these
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people called in come from are you
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kidding this is organized
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effort
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and it's not a
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secret except to citizens of Europe and
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the United States everyone else
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understands it quite clearly
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then came
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Minsk and especially Minsk 2 which by
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the way was modeled on South Turoleian
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autonomy and the Belgians could have
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related to mitzu very well it said there
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should be autonomy for the
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Russianspeaking regions in the east of
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Ukraine
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it was supported unanimously by the UN
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Security
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Council the United
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States and Ukraine decided it was not to
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be
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enforced germany and France which were
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the guaranurs of the Normandy
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process let it go
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and it was absolutely another direct
00:28:01
American unipolar action with Europe as
00:28:05
usual playing
00:28:08
completely useless subsidiary role even
00:28:11
though it was a guarantor of the
00:28:15
agreement trump one raised the armaments
00:28:20
there were many thousands of deaths in
00:28:24
the shelling by Ukraine in the
00:28:26
Donbas there was no Minsk 2
00:28:30
agreement and then Biden came into
00:28:33
office and again I know all these people
00:28:37
i used to be a member of the Democratic
00:28:39
Party i now am strictly sworn to be a
00:28:45
member of no
00:28:47
party because both are the same
00:28:51
anyway and because this is I the
00:28:54
Democrats became complete wararm mongers
00:28:56
over time and there not was not one
00:29:00
voice about peace just like most of your
00:29:04
parliamentarians the same
00:29:08
way so at the end of
00:29:14
1991 Putin put on the table a last
00:29:18
effort in two security agreement drafts
00:29:22
one with Europe and one with the United
00:29:24
States the US put on the table December
00:29:27
15th n uh
00:29:30
2021 i had an hour call with Jake
00:29:33
Sullivan in the White House begging
00:29:37
"Jake avoid the
00:29:39
war you can avoid the war all you have
00:29:43
to do is say NATO will not enlarge to
00:29:48
Ukraine." And he said to me "Oh NATO's
00:29:52
not going to enlarge to Ukraine don't
00:29:54
worry about it." I said "Jake say it
00:29:57
publicly." No no no we can't say it
00:29:59
publicly
00:30:01
said "Jake you're going to have a war
00:30:04
over something that isn't even going to
00:30:07
happen." He said "Don't worry Jeff there
00:30:09
will be no
00:30:12
war." These are not very bright
00:30:15
people i'm telling you if I can give you
00:30:19
my honest view they're not very bright
00:30:21
people and I've dealt with them for more
00:30:24
than 40
00:30:25
years they talk to themselves they don't
00:30:28
talk to anybody else they play game
00:30:31
theory in non-ooperative game theory you
00:30:34
don't talk to the other side you just
00:30:37
make your
00:30:38
strategy this is the essence of game
00:30:44
theory it's not negotiation theory it's
00:30:48
not peacemaking
00:30:50
theory it is unilateral
00:30:53
non-ooperative theory if you know formal
00:30:56
game theory that's what they play it
00:30:59
started at the Rand Corporation that's
00:31:01
what they still play in 2019 there's a
00:31:04
paper by Rand how do we extend Russia do
00:31:08
you know they wrote a paper which Biden
00:31:11
followed how do we annoy
00:31:14
Russia that's literally the strategy how
00:31:17
do we annoy Russia we're trying to
00:31:20
provoke it trying to make it break apart
00:31:23
maybe have regime change maybe have
00:31:25
unrest maybe have economic crisis
00:31:28
that's what you call your
00:31:31
ally are you
00:31:37
kidding so I had a long and
00:31:41
frustrating phone call with
00:31:44
Sullivan i was standing out in the
00:31:46
freezing cold i happened to be h trying
00:31:49
to have a ski
00:31:51
day and there I was jake don't have the
00:31:55
war
00:31:56
oh there'll be no war
00:31:59
jeff we know a lot of what happened the
00:32:02
next month which is that they refuse to
00:32:06
negotiate the stupidest idea of NATO is
00:32:10
the so-called open door
00:32:13
policy are you kidding nato reserves the
00:32:17
right to go where it wants without any
00:32:20
neighbor having any say whatsoever
00:32:24
well I tell the Mexicans and the
00:32:27
Canadians don't try
00:32:29
it you
00:32:31
know Trump may want to take over Canada
00:32:34
so Canada could say to China why don't
00:32:37
you build a military base uh in uh in in
00:32:41
Ontario i wouldn't advise
00:32:44
it and the United States would not say
00:32:47
well it's an open door that's their
00:32:50
business i mean they can do what they
00:32:52
want that's not our
00:32:54
business but grown-ups in Europe repeat
00:32:58
this in Europe in your commission your
00:33:03
high
00:33:05
representative this is nonsense stuff
00:33:07
this is not even baby
00:33:12
geopolitics this is just not thinking at
00:33:15
all so the war started what was Putin's
00:33:20
intention in the war
00:33:22
i can tell you what his intention was it
00:33:26
was to force Zalinski to
00:33:29
negotiate
00:33:32
neutrality and that happened within 7
00:33:36
days of the start of the
00:33:39
invasion you should understand this not
00:33:42
the propaganda that's written about this
00:33:44
oh that they failed and he was going to
00:33:46
take over Ukraine
00:33:49
come on ladies and gentlemen understand
00:33:52
something
00:33:54
basic the idea was to keep NATO and what
00:33:58
is NATO it's the United
00:34:00
States off of Russia's
00:34:04
border no more no
00:34:06
less i should
00:34:09
add one very important point
00:34:13
why are they so interested first because
00:34:17
if China or Russia decided to have a
00:34:20
military base on the Rio Grand or in uh
00:34:25
the Canadian border not only would the
00:34:27
United States freak out we'd have war
00:34:29
within about 10
00:34:32
minutes but because the United States
00:34:35
unilaterally abandoned the
00:34:37
anti-bballistic missile treaty in 2002
00:34:40
and ended the nuclear arms control
00:34:43
framework by doing
00:34:45
So and this is extremely important to
00:34:49
understand the nuclear arms control
00:34:52
framework is based on trying to block a
00:34:56
first
00:34:57
strike the ABM treaty was a critical
00:35:00
component of that the US unilaterally
00:35:03
walked out of the ABM treaty in
00:35:05
2002 it blew a Russian gasket so
00:35:09
everything I've been describing is in
00:35:11
the context of the destruction of the
00:35:13
nuclear framework as well and starting
00:35:16
in 2010 the US put in Aegis missile
00:35:19
systems in Poland and then in
00:35:24
Romania and Russia doesn't like that and
00:35:27
one of the issues on the table in
00:35:30
December and January December 2021
00:35:33
January 2022 was does the United States
00:35:36
claim the right to put missile systems
00:35:38
in
00:35:39
Ukraine and Blinken told Lavrov in
00:35:43
January 2022 the United States reserves
00:35:47
the right to put middle missile systems
00:35:49
wherever it wants
00:35:53
that's
00:35:54
your puditive
00:35:57
ally and now let's put intermediate
00:36:00
missile systems back in Germany the
00:36:03
United States walked out of the INF
00:36:05
treaty unilaterally in 2019 there is no
00:36:08
nuclear arms framework right now
00:36:15
none when Zilinski said in seven days
00:36:19
let's negotiate
00:36:21
i know the details of
00:36:23
this
00:36:26
exquisitly because I've talked to all
00:36:29
the parties in
00:36:31
detail within a couple of weeks there
00:36:34
was a document
00:36:36
exchanged that President Putin had
00:36:39
approved that Lavrov had presented that
00:36:42
was being managed by the Turkish
00:36:44
mediators i flew to Anchora to listen in
00:36:49
detail to what the mediators were
00:36:53
doing ukraine walked away unilaterally
00:36:57
from a near
00:37:00
agreement why because the United States
00:37:04
told them to because the
00:37:07
UK added icing to the cake by having
00:37:13
Bojo go in early
00:37:16
April to Ukraine and explain and he has
00:37:20
recently and if your security is in the
00:37:23
hands of Boris Johnson God help us
00:37:26
all keith Starmer turns out to be even
00:37:30
worse it's unimaginable but it is true
00:37:37
boris Johnson has explained and you can
00:37:40
look it
00:37:42
up on the website that what's at stake
00:37:45
here is western
00:37:48
hegemony not Ukraine Western hegemony
00:37:54
michael and I met at the Vatican with a
00:37:57
group in the spring of
00:38:00
2022 where we wrote a document
00:38:04
explaining nothing good can come out of
00:38:06
this war for Ukraine negotiate now
00:38:09
because anything that takes time will
00:38:11
mean massive amounts of deaths risk of
00:38:14
nuclear escalation and likely loss of
00:38:19
the war
00:38:21
i want to change one word from what we
00:38:23
wrote then nothing was wrong in that
00:38:27
document and since that document since
00:38:30
the US talked the negotiators away from
00:38:32
the
00:38:33
table about a million Ukrainians have
00:38:36
died or been severely
00:38:40
wounded and the American senators who
00:38:43
are as nasty and cynical and corrupt as
00:38:48
imaginable say this is wonderful
00:38:51
expenditure of our money because no
00:38:53
Americans are
00:38:54
dying it's the pure proxy war one of our
00:38:58
senators nearby me uh
00:39:02
Blumenthal says this out
00:39:04
loud mitt Romney says this out loud it's
00:39:08
best money America can spend no
00:39:11
Americans are
00:39:13
dying it's
00:39:16
unreal now just to bring us up to
00:39:21
yesterday this failed this project
00:39:25
failed the idea of the project was that
00:39:28
Russia would fold its
00:39:30
hand the idea all along was Russia can't
00:39:34
resist as Ziggnu Bjinski explained in
00:39:39
1997 the Americans thought we have the
00:39:42
upper
00:39:43
hand we're going to win because we're
00:39:46
going to bluff them they're not really
00:39:48
going to fight they're not really going
00:39:50
to
00:39:52
mobilize the nuclear option of cutting
00:39:55
them out of
00:39:56
Swift that's going to do them in the
00:40:00
economic sanctions that's going to do
00:40:03
them in
00:40:05
the Himars that's going to do them in
00:40:08
the Attackums the
00:40:12
F-16s honestly I've listened to this for
00:40:15
70 years i've listened to it as
00:40:19
semiunderstanding I'd say for about 56
00:40:23
years they speak nonsense every day my
00:40:28
country my
00:40:30
government this is so familiar to me
00:40:34
completely familiar i begged the
00:40:36
Ukrainians and I had a track record with
00:40:38
the Ukrainians i advised the Ukrainians
00:40:41
i'm not anti- Ukrainian i'm pro-
00:40:42
Ukrainian completely i said "Save your
00:40:45
lives save your sovereignty save your
00:40:48
territory be neutral don't listen to the
00:40:51
Americans."
00:40:53
I repeated to them the famous adage of
00:40:56
Henry Kissinger that to be an enemy of
00:40:59
the United States is dangerous but to be
00:41:02
a friend is
00:41:04
fatal okay so let me repeat that for
00:41:07
Europe to be an enemy of the United
00:41:10
States is dangerous but to be a friend
00:41:12
is
00:41:15
fatal so let me now finalize a few words
00:41:20
about Trump
00:41:26
trump does not want the losing
00:41:30
hand this is
00:41:33
why it is more likely than not this war
00:41:36
will
00:41:37
end because Trump and President Putin
00:41:41
will agree to end the
00:41:43
war if Europe does all its great
00:41:49
wararmongering it doesn't matter the war
00:41:51
is
00:41:53
ending so get it out of your
00:41:57
system please tell your
00:41:59
colleagues it's
00:42:02
over and it's over because Trump doesn't
00:42:06
want to carry a
00:42:08
loser that's it it's not some great
00:42:12
morality he doesn't want to carry a
00:42:15
loser this is a
00:42:17
loser the one that will be saved by the
00:42:20
negotiations taking place right now is
00:42:24
Ukraine second is Europe your stock
00:42:27
markets rising in recent days by the
00:42:30
horrible news of negotiations i know
00:42:34
this has been met with the sheer horror
00:42:37
in these
00:42:38
chambers but this is the best
00:42:41
news that you could get
00:42:44
now I
00:42:46
encouraged they don't listen to me but I
00:42:50
tried to reach out to some of the
00:42:52
European leaders most don't want to hear
00:42:55
anything from me at
00:42:57
all but I
00:42:59
said don't go to
00:43:02
Kiev go to
00:43:05
Moscow discuss with your
00:43:07
counterparts are you kidding you're
00:43:10
Europe your $450 million people your 20
00:43:14
trillion dollar
00:43:16
economy you should be the main economic
00:43:21
trading partner of Russia its natural
00:43:26
links by the way if anyone would like to
00:43:29
discuss how the US blew up Nordstream
00:43:32
I'd be happy to talk about that
00:43:39
so the Trump administration is
00:43:43
imperialist at
00:43:46
heart it is a great
00:43:50
powers dominate the
00:43:52
world it is we will do what we want when
00:43:56
we can
00:43:58
we will be better than a
00:44:02
scineesscent Biden and we'll cut our
00:44:06
losses where we have
00:44:08
to there are several war zones in the
00:44:11
world the Middle East being another we
00:44:14
don't know what will happen with that
00:44:16
again if Europe had a proper policy you
00:44:21
could stop that war i'll explain how
00:44:26
but war with China is also a possibility
00:44:32
so I'm not saying that we're at the new
00:44:35
age of
00:44:36
peace but we are in a
00:44:41
uh very uh different kind of politics
00:44:45
right now
00:44:47
and Europe should have a foreign
00:44:50
policy and not just a foreign policy of
00:44:53
rousophobia a foreign policy that is a
00:44:56
realistic foreign policy that
00:44:58
understands Russia's situation that
00:45:00
understands Europe's situation that
00:45:03
understands what America is and what it
00:45:05
stands
00:45:06
for that tries
00:45:08
to avoid Europe being invaded by the
00:45:12
United
00:45:13
States because it's not impossible that
00:45:17
America will just land troops in Danish
00:45:21
territory i'm not joking
00:45:25
and I don't think they're joking and
00:45:27
Europe needs a foreign policy a real one
00:45:32
not a yes we'll bargain with Mr trump
00:45:36
and meet him
00:45:38
halfway you know what that will be like
00:45:42
give me a call
00:45:46
afterwards please don't have American
00:45:49
officials as head of Europe have
00:45:52
European
00:45:54
officials
00:45:56
please have a European foreign
00:45:59
policy you're going to be living with
00:46:01
Russia for a long
00:46:03
time so please negotiate with
00:46:06
Russia there are real security issues on
00:46:09
the
00:46:11
table but the bombast and the
00:46:15
rousophobia is not serving your security
00:46:18
at all it's not serving Ukraine security
00:46:21
at all it contributed to a million
00:46:24
casualties in Ukraine from this
00:46:27
idiotic American adventure that you
00:46:31
signed on to and then became the lead
00:46:33
cheerleaders
00:46:35
of solves
00:46:40
nothing on the Middle East by the
00:46:43
way the
00:46:45
US completely handed over foreign policy
00:46:48
to Netanyahu 30 years ago the Israel
00:46:53
lobby dominates American politics just
00:46:57
have no doubt about it i could explain
00:47:00
for hours how it works it's very
00:47:04
dangerous
00:47:06
i'm hoping that Trump will not destroy
00:47:09
his
00:47:10
administration and worse the Palestinian
00:47:12
people because of Netanyahu who I regard
00:47:16
as a war criminal
00:47:19
uh properly indicted by the
00:47:23
IC and that needs to be told no more
00:47:28
that there will be a state of Palestine
00:47:31
on the borders of the 4th of June
00:47:33
1967 according to international law as
00:47:36
the only way for peace it's the only way
00:47:41
for Europe to have peace on your borders
00:47:45
with the Middle East is the two-state
00:47:48
solution there is only one obstacle to
00:47:51
it by the way and that is the veto of
00:47:54
the United States and the UN Security
00:47:56
Council so if you want to have some
00:47:59
influence tell the United States "Drop
00:48:02
the
00:48:03
veto you are together with 180 countries
00:48:07
in the world the only ones that oppose a
00:48:12
Palestinian state
00:48:14
are the United States Israel
00:48:18
Micronia Nau
00:48:21
Palao Papa New
00:48:24
Guinea Mr
00:48:27
malay and
00:48:30
Paraguay so this is a place where Europe
00:48:33
could have a big
00:48:35
influence europe has gone silent about
00:48:38
the JCPOA and
00:48:40
Iran netanyahu's greatest dream in life
00:48:44
is a war between the United States and
00:48:47
Iran he's not given up and it's not
00:48:50
impossible that that would come
00:48:52
also and that's because the US in this
00:48:57
regard does not have an independent
00:48:59
foreign policy it is run by Israel it's
00:49:03
tragic it's amazing by the
00:49:07
way and it could end trump may say that
00:49:12
he wants foreign policy back maybe i'm
00:49:16
hoping that it's the case finally let me
00:49:18
just say with respect to China China is
00:49:21
not an enemy china is just a success
00:49:25
story that's why it is viewed by the
00:49:29
United States as an enemy because China
00:49:32
is a bigger economy than the United
00:49:36
States that's all
00:49:40
[Applause]
