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Papa 1 Papa two Papa 3
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papa no promoted demoted depending on
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where
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you is the glass half full or half
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[Music]
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empty hello this is Tobias Forge from
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Ghost I am here to react to uh
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characters of the clergy so we'll see
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what my reactions might be yeah very
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crude but cool it is popping I wonder if
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this it's hard to tell I mean we did a
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lot of shows on the first tour the first
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album cycle it looks like one of those
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in in maybe London or might have been K
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but I don't remember if this is the
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place some someone might correct me like
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this is the n no it's not well I mean
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the first
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era he was uh he was never properly like
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introduced as as a a potential impostor
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as as any of the other Papas after him
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has been there's always been push back
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as soon as someone new came in it was
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always like whereas the first show we
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ever did was in bburg so that was the
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first time anyone ever saw it now of
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course that that Festival was a little
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bit of a too cool for school metal Fest
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really cool bance I mean it's a cool
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Festival but but a very like no no
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spontaneous outbreak of of of overjoy we
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also warmed up a little just a day after
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or something that when we' done one show
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and then we flew to London and played a
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show there at the Camden underworld I
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don't know this might be Camden
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underworld I'm not sure that would have
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been our second show and that was
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definitely a little bit the crow was
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very nubri and sang along a lot uh then
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I knew that we were on the right path
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yeah costume wise it had um Advanced
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slightly I basically contacted a local
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seamstress in Lyn shoing where I lived
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you know she was like a pro like a
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professional seamstress and she was like
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yeah you know she she had a certain cck
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and sort of church attire that she would
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make for like the I guess the local
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church in in in L shpping so I was like
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okay let's uh take a little bit of that
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and uh well I'm going to need a hat like
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this and a hat like that and went over
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to the the lace department and just
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like this looks cool if you take this
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lace and this lace and this lace and
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these buttons and sort of put them
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together that might make this cool thing
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for the middle it was really that like
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crude might have been an embroidery
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machine so the the grucifix is here it
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was literally like here data file
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print and and those came out like so how
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how many many do you want like oh six 1
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2 3 4 5 six so ad hoc every day just
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felt like or every month or every tour
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just felt like this is almost over so
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let's have fun for as long as we can
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next picture is same uh outfit I'm
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trying to remember
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why am Meritus second uh in in uh not
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make
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makeup sort of came about there was this
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big spin-off with you know Papa Meritus
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2 minus the the M makeup is the same as
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Papa Meritus number two with the makeup
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but somehow people were just like oh
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it's another character I don't know who
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I'm looking at no it's the same guy he
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was just not wearing the same attire
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this has been confusing for me too
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Meritus 3 so all these three first dudes
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are brothers and the age difference
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between two and three is like 3 months
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and anybody with like a biological
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knowledge might say that that's that's
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NE possible it is if you have two
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mothers so that some says something
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about the father number three this is
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where uh things got a little bit more
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um um interesting in terms of uh design
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we started working with beia b b
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ulun um for this album it turned out
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really cool I mean it was it was also
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based on a
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similar Mo as as this the previous one
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uh a lot of lace a lot of um material
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but this was more from a worldwide point
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of view like picked up a little bit here
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and there and I think if I just go back
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one there are little medallions or what
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look like medallions on on its uh placed
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the medallions were like glue and like
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old uh Gru fixes and stuff so it was
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like a grucifix with the chain and
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everything and just like put together
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with the all kinds of little brushes or
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something like it was really really cool
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oh
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yeah this was a big step for for the
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band uh because I was feeling already on
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the second album cycle on on number
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two that going around being spooky is is
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is fun and all but it's um sooner or
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later it's going to you know wear off
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because when you play a longer show
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longer than an hour sooner or later is
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going to start coming off as stale and
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still standing and just not fun so
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therefore Papa M just got this getup
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that was uh inspired by um Charles III I
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guess the uh swed Swedish King from late
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1700s when he claimed a throne he he had
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a costume like that so that's basically
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basically taken from Charles II that
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differed definitely from Pap amerus 2
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both one and two had more like a dirty
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traditional
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Halloween kind of thing it's small
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nuances but you can see that it's more
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like linear more straight lines and
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angles po
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sibling to Papa 123 also L lot of cool
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embroidery on that
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one sister imperator for the um the
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observant you might have noticed that
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there has been a a little bit of a
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circulation of sister sisters what uh
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breaks my heart here a little is that
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this particular one passed away which
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was a drag because she she was a very
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fun and cool actress the whole idea of
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casting is is sometimes fun part of my
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job because um you know first sister was
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obviously she she was who she was she
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just came in and did her job and and
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then at a certain point she she proved
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very hard to work with and basically
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bowed out and then uh we had to find
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someone who like looked almost like her
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or as as close as you can Poss possibly
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get uh hence the car accident and then
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uh when from one day to another
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literally when we were shooting episodes
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and we were going to shoot episodes
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again she had passed away and so you had
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to sort of do that thing again where we
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had to find someone who looked like her
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and the other one so far I think we we
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we did really well however now now I
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just moved over to the next picture that
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picture is taken by my sister my old old
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old apartment with black
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cloth in the back the casso were the
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same you know what we asked local
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seamstress to do for uh Papa's
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undergarment was basically uh one ended
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up being the ghoul suits you know the
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idea is always for them always been for
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them to be a uniformed bunch of um
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soldiers if you will in this case with
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uh very generic uh
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alchemic uh symbols I remember we were
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in in
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Denmark we took this photo with the
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obligatory smoke Esther cagara took this
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picture yeah this is
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um
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another ghoul suit that was meant to
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look like a um pilot
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diver but but as as if it was
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some uh underwater airplane in the 1800s
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the the whole look of the cycle was
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supposed to be a little bit more
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specific it was it was influenced by St
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panr Station in London where you had
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sort of goth uh meets Victorian
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industrialism we're jumping back in time
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after Papa 3 came Cardinal copia before
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it felt a little bit you know repetitive
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and kind of predictable Papa one Papa
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two Papa 3
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papa no so you know we needed to break
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things up a little how about introducing
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a character who hasn't really fully
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bloomed yet and um hence Cardinal copia
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this is the first time uh ghoul costumes
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were made also with be arand and and
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sort of her under her
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curation and Godfather to
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there's this wonderful
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scene with uh what's his name insert
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name here who is like the most dawn of
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all of them he's like he's like someone
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impersonating uh the Marlon Brando
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character you know where Marlon
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obviously sort of did it cool and if
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someone sort of like does that as a joke
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and I always found found that character
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uh one very funny and also that he had
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really cool clothes so I wanted Cardinal
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copia to have a getup that was similar
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to to that one here we go Cardinal
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made Papa photos taken at the Stockholm
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City Hall really cool room it's huge
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Hall with with golden ornate uh Mosaic
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on on the walls it looks absolutely
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amazing it's been really amazing taking
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these pictures in cool locations much
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thanks to Nicolas yanson at Universal
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very good friend of mine but also he has
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a nose for for um locations location is
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key you can take cool pictures with you
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know with black background and and white
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background and all that and or you can
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impose anything that you want but when
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you have a a great location it looks
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fabulous M fourth the first picture that
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picture was taken in U Mexico on in
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March 2020 when we thought that a new
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album is going to be recorded and you
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know hopefully within half a year or
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half a year but within nine months we
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were going to have a new album out no
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but we managed to uh introduce him uh
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papus IV being the elevated Cardinal
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copia on that show in Mexico City which
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was cool po Meritus as uh one of the
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baseball Furies you know growing up with
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80s V video violence uh the Warriors was
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of course a big big film when the uh
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opportunity knocked to do something
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baseball esque it was a no-brainer of
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course papa merus ivth is a baseball
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Fury frer imperator that's where we're
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at that's where he he's at promoted
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demoted depending on where
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you is the glass half full or half empty
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that's something that you need to come
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to terms with in life he has an
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important role it needs to uh land into
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in in his mind that he's important still
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even though he's not the focal
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point V is
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coming it's true each one has an element
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of course that I I like or or something
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that I could look back on with a certain
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degree of Joy uh I definitely think that
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Papa 3 with the addition of something as
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easy as pants made the show better and
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made the show more fun first Cardinal uh
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when he was just Cardinal was fun
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because of the different attires that
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you talking about different colors there
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are elements in in in each that are that
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are fun but but for me as an Entertainer
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I think that uh even from a novelty
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point of view the newly found Fame of
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and the feeling of of the band sort of
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making it was of course fun on the first
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two albums but uh I think from an from
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an enter being or wanting to be an
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Entertainer uh point of view it
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definitely got more interesting and more
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fun after where it
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was slightly
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more um intuitively doing uh more fun
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stuff rather than sort of just
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like doing that
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uh thank you for watching cheers
