David Clayton - The Hidden Subject

01:11:34
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Summary

TLDRThe speaker, addressing a congregation, reflects on a secret message locked within the Book of Daniel that becomes comprehensible only at the end times. This message correlates with the gospel of the Kingdom, emphasizing the theme of judgment and God's eternal government. The talk parallels narratives from the Book of Daniel and Revelation, illustrating how an unsealed message from Daniel is meant to be broadcast to the entire world. The speaker articulates that God's intervention in history is purposeful, using biblical examples such as Israel's exodus and the coming of the Messiah. A key focus of the discussion is the theme of pre-advent judgment, highlighting God's character and the judgment of His kingdom. This judgment is not to endanger a believer’s salvation, but to validate the wisdom and righteousness of God's government. The speaker challenges traditional views on salvation as merely an individual concern, stressing instead a grander narrative about glorifying God’s character and His governance. Christians are called to demonstrate God's kingdom on Earth through their lives. This connects to a perceived reclamation of doctrine, particularly within the Advent movement. Despite past distractions from a legalistic interpretation, these core messages of judgment and divine authority remain integral to understanding the end time gospel narrative.

Takeaways

  • 🙏 The speaker focuses on a divine message in Daniel meant for the end times.
  • 📖 Understanding the Book of Daniel and Revelation is crucial to decode this message.
  • ✝️ The gospel of the Kingdom is central to the end-time message.
  • 🕰️ God's intervention through history demonstrates His control and timing.
  • 🕊️ The judgment of God's kingdom is pivotal, showcasing His righteous governance.
  • 🏛️ Christians are seen as representatives of God's character on Earth.
  • 🔍 Examining the salvation message involves a broader view of God's character.
  • 🌍 The Advent movement is acknowledged for its role despite issues with legalism.
  • 🚩 A pre-advent judgment demonstrates God's government to the universe.
  • 👑 This judgment validates Jesus' rule as everlasting.
  • 🌟 Understanding this message helps align with God's eternal plan.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker expresses gratitude for being present and explains that the talk will continue from a theme in the Book of Daniel, focusing on a 'secret' locked until the end times. He emphasizes the importance of understanding biblical messages critically and refers to Daniel 12:8-10 where Daniel is told the words are sealed till the end time.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    He discusses how God's timing in revelations and events, like the exodus of Israel and the coming of the Messiah, is pivotal and unstoppable. The message in Daniel is similar – meant for a specific time to create an awakening. He draws parallels between two angels in Daniel 12 and Revelation 10, suggesting they represent a deep mystery to be understood at the right time.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The theme is about the gospel of the Kingdom being a critical part of the hidden message. There's a suggestion that the hidden message in Daniel links to the everlasting gospel of the Kingdom, a continuity from the apostolic times. The speaker points out that the Reformation restored only a partial view of the gospel, focusing on man's salvation rather than the broader kingdom perspective.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The gospel, he argues, is more about understanding and serving a greater purpose beyond personal salvation – vindicating God’s government against Satan’s accusations. There's a personal testimony about the assurance of salvation received through understanding God’s character and the role of humanity in demonstrating God’s kingdom on earth.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    The importance of assessing and measuring the Church, the temple of God, is highlighted as part of a message to be prophesied in the end times. The speaker connects Revelation 11's symbolic measuring with a need to understand the church's role in God's end-time plan, also hinting at an impending judgment linked to the message in Daniel.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    A judgment scene in Daniel 7 is discussed, where the beast is destroyed, and the kingdom of Christ is established through judgment. The speaker relates this to two consequences in the judgment: the downfall of evil entities and the establishment of God's everlasting kingdom, implying a system of governance evaluated and approved.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    The broader issue involves Satan's attack on God’s character and government, starting before humanity's fall. The salvation story relates to a larger cosmic controversy involving propaganda wars led by Satan. God's character must be vindicated through unbiased truth-revealing judgments, countering Satan's misinformation campaign.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    He explains that God’s method of answering Satan involves first revealing His true character through Jesus and securing humanity’s role in the divine plan. The speaker stresses that the good news is not just personal salvation but participating in vindicating God's character and kingdom.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    The parallels between events 2,000 years ago and now include a prophetic messenger, the kingdom's message, and a judgment process necessary before establishing God's kingdom. Jesus' ministry and sacrifice were preceded by judgments of character and purpose, demonstrating God’s truth and sovereignty.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Drawing parallels to current times, the end-time 'Elijah' represents a movement or group preparing for God's kingdom by emphasizing the gospel of the kingdom and judgment. Believers are called to witness God's character through their lives, proving God’s government’s efficacy and divine wisdom.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:55:00

    The speaker ties the understanding of God’s character and judgment to being pivotal in recognizing God's rightful rule. He criticizes legalistic interpretations and stresses the relational aspect of faith with God over mere compliance. The judgment is about proving God’s model effective and superior.

  • 00:55:00 - 01:11:34

    Finally, the talk concludes by emphasizing the importance of understanding our role as representatives of God's kingdom on Earth, living as examples of God's character. This ultimate judgment is about establishing God’s permanent and flawless governance, ensuring the universe recognizes and desires God's rule.

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Video Q&A

  • What is the main topic of the speech?

    The speaker discusses the secret message in the Book of Daniel that is intended to be understood at the end of time, focusing on the gospel of the Kingdom.

  • Why is the Book of Daniel important according to the speaker?

    The Book of Daniel contains a sealed secret that is meant to be understood at the time of the end to awaken God's people.

  • What is the significance of the gospel of the Kingdom in the talk?

    The gospel of the Kingdom is the message that was presented 2000 years ago and is meant to be understood in the last days, also focusing on the message of God's character and government.

  • How does the speaker connect the Book of Daniel to the Book of Revelation?

    The speaker shows parallels between the angels in Daniel chapter 12 and Revelation chapter 10, indicating that an unsealed message is meant for the entire world.

  • What is the role of judgment in the speaker's message?

    The speaker emphasizes a pre-advent judgment focusing on the judgment of God's kingdom and character, which precedes the setting up of God's eternal rule.

  • What examples from the Bible are used to illustrate God's intervention in human history?

    Examples include Israel's exodus from Egypt, the coming of the Messiah, and the role of John the Baptist during Jesus' time.

  • What does the speaker say about the traditional understanding of salvation?

    He remarks that the question of man's salvation is only a part of the gospel and stresses a broader understanding focused on God's character and government.

  • How does the speaker view the role of Christians in relation to God's kingdom?

    Christians are seen as representatives of God's character, meant to demonstrate the greatness of God's government to the world.

  • Why does the speaker mention the Advent movement?

    He believes God intended to reveal truths about the end time atonement and pre-advent judgment through the Advent movement, though it became entangled in legalism.

  • What parallel does the speaker draw with judgments in history?

    He compares the judgment of kingdoms in Daniel with the judgment of God's kingdom before it is fully established, highlighting the testing of God's government.

  • What message is emphasized as the gospel in the end times?

    The reinforcement of God's character and government as the gospel, beyond the simple salvation message.

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    okay good morning brothers and
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    sisters I got a good
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    um good rest last night
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    but
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    um some Jamaican ladies brought me some
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    Jamaican is breakfast this morning and
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    because of
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    that I maybe ate a little bit too much
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    so I'm slightly
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    disoriented anyway I'm blessed to be
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    here happy to be here and
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    um so glad to see all of you
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    I pray that the Lord may give us
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    sunshine in our hearts in spite of the
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    rain and bless us
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    abundantly as we hear together from his
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    word so if you will bow your heads with
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    me we will
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    pray our father thank you so much for
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    another opportunity to Fellowship
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    together and to share in the study of
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    your
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    word I want to thank you for these
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    brothers and sisters who have braved the
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    rain to be here this
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    morning and we know that it is your
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    Delight to bless your people you don't
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    bring us together just to entertain us
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    but to draw us closer to yourself and to
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    help us to understand your purposes
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    better so we thank you for bringing us
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    together and we pray that as we submit
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    ourselves to you you will bless us this
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    morning because we come to you in the
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    name of your son Our Savior Jesus Christ
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    amen all right I'm going to uh continue
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    from where I left off yesterday and um
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    yesterday just a reminder for those of
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    us who might not have been here at that
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    time what I was trying to demonstrate
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    and I'm still going to focus on today is
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    that there is something there is a
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    secret that God locked up in the Book of
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    Daniel and it was not to be
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    understood until the end of time or the
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    time of the end
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    now every time I say this or something
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    like this I'm conscious of the fact that
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    people are always making extravagant
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    claims all right it makes me a little
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    bit cautious and a little
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    bit reluctant to say things like this
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    because you know I I've I've read a lot
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    of documents or seen a lot of articles
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    about God's hidden message God's secret
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    so I I'm very anxious when I say
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    something like this to to make sure that
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    we can understand and see it clearly
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    from the
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    Bible the the verse that we are looking
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    at it's on the screen in Daniel 12: 8
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    to10 is is the is the main reason why we
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    would come to this conclusion God says
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    it there's an there's this is not even
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    the
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    words of a prophet it's it's the words
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    of an Angel who is speaking to
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    Daniel Daniel doesn't understand all the
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    things that he's being told and so he
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    asks a question oh my Lord what shall be
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    the end of these things and the answer
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    he gets is
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    this go your way Daniel for the words
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    are closed up and
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    sealed till the time of the
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    end if God says this what hope is there
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    for anybody to understand it before the
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    time of the end it's an
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    impossibility why does God lock up a
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    message seal it it's there in the Bible
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    but it's incomprehensible until the time
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    of the end God intends that the message
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    when it is understood should create
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    a a Great Awakening among his people I
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    believe so it's not there here just for
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    you know novelty for the novelty of it
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    for for us to be
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    entertained God has a purpose in mind
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    you know when I think back on the way he
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    has worked in the past I
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    remember Israel was in Egypt for over
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    200 years then a moment in time came and
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    God found a man when the time when the
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    time arrived nobody had to go and try to
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    create a Revival God had a purpose and
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    he found a man and when he found that
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    man he sent him with a message and
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    whether all the forces of Satan could
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    not stop Israel coming out of Egypt
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    God's moment had arrived and you can
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    think of many times during the history
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    of the Bible when similar things happen
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    when it was time for the Messiah to
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    come John the Baptist appeared the wise
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    men came from the East the Shepherds
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    Angels appeared to the shepherds in the
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    field God has moments in time when he
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    decides to intervene in the Affairs of
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    men and nobody can stop it
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    and um I believe the message in Daniel
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    is one
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    such event one such moment that he has
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    he has locked up in
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    time for it to have its effect when the
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    appointed time arrives there's something
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    else in the Bible similar I'm just going
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    to drop this in by the way just to sort
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    of highlight what I'm saying you know in
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    Revelation chap 10 it says that um when
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    when the angel uttered this a roar he
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    wrote like
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    like he heard John heard seven
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    Thunders you remember I'm always
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    interested in that I'm fascinated
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    because it says John said he was about
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    to write what the Thunders
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    said and the the the voice said don't
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    write shut it up seal the things that
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    the seventh Thunders
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    said I I don't even try to understand
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    John heard a sound nobody has a clue
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    what he heard and God says don't write
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    it why why did you
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    even make John hear this if if it's not
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    recorded so we can ever hope to
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    understand and it's very interesting
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    because God gives a message in the seven
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    Thunders and he never even records what
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    he says so how do you have a hope of
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    understanding recently a brother gave me
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    a little clue that H might have
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    something he says in the Book of
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    Revelation there are seven places where
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    you hear the sound of Thunders maybe
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    something to pursue but
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    anyway it's just interesting the way God
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    does things and um I'm very interested
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    in this this message that was sealed up
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    because God says the wicked shall not
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    understand but the wise will understand
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    and you know which category we have we
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    intend to be in
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    right absolutely I hope so I hope
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    everybody everybody's clear on
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    that um so we saw that there is a
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    parallel between the
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    angel the the Clue the clue that that
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    we're looking
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    for we find in in in Revelation 10 this
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    hidden message because we see two angels
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    there's one in in Daniel CH 12 and
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    there's one in Revelation 10 and they
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    are very similar the what is said about
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    both these angels is almost identical
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    except in places where they need to be
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    different and I I'll show you what I'll
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    remind you of what I mean this is the
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    one who seals the
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    book this one tells Daniel to shut it up
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    and seal it until the time of the end
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    and he mentions a time period of three
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    and a half years time times and half a
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    time this one comes down with a book
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    open and it says the same thing about
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    him except now it says there shall be
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    time no longer or there shall be delay
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    no
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    longer and and now John is told that
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    he's to prophesy again to the whole
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    planet apparently the message that is
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    locked up in the Book of Daniel is for
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    the whole
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    planet and God tells John when you when
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    you have when this book is open and you
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    eat it it's sweet in your mouth bitter
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    in your belly then you will have a
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    message for the whole
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    planet and
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    apparently putting two and two together
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    I gather that this is the message that
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    was locked up in the Book of Daniel it
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    is now for the whole world so so just to
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    look at the just to compare both things
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    again so we get it clearly fixed in our
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    minds look at the parallel between both
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    passages just in case you might think
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    I'm kind of making this up but look at
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    the
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    parallel the angel stands on the river
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    this one stands on the sea and the Earth
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    the first one holds up his hand to
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    Heaven this one holds up his hand to
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    heaven the first one swears by the one
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    who lives forever the second one does
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    the same the first one says it shall be
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    3.5 times the second one says there
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    shall be time or they shall be delay no
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    longer the first one says the book is
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    shut and sealed the second one has a
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    little book open the first one tells
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    Daniel to rest because at the end of the
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    days he will stand in his place the
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    second one tells John he must prophesy
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    again the time is fulfilled and you must
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    prophesy again what I tried to say
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    yesterday is
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    that there's only one
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    message and that message is the gospel
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    of the Kingdom we saw that clearly Jesus
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    says this is what is to be preached to
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    All Nations then the end will come so
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    the message is the gospel of the
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    Kingdom that was preached 2,000 years
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    ago but it is to be preached until the
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    coming of Jesus and yet how can it be
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    that there's a there's a great message
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    locked up in
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    Daniel when the message for the time is
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    the gospel of the
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    Kingdom the conclusion that I tried to
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    share is that the message in Daniel
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    must have to do with the gospel of the
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    Kingdom if it is relevant at all it must
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    be a part of the Gospel of the Kingdom
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    because that is a message forever so it
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    must have to do with the gospel of the
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    Kingdom so that's what I tried to
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    present yesterday
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    maybe I wasn't very clear so I'm trying
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    to re re
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    re revisit this morning to make sure
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    everybody understand you
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    thank you Mark I like the reassurance I
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    need it so
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    anyway the theme of this restored
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    message the theme of
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    it and we're going to focus on that now
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    because as I said it has to do with the
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    gospel of the Kingdom but what about the
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    gospel of the
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    Kingdom
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    uh John says he took the little book out
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    of the Angel's hand he ate it up it was
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    in my mouth sweet as honey and as soon
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    as I had eaten it my belly was bitter
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    and now he gets the commission you must
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    prophesy again and I emphasize this word
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    again and I made the point that I think
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    if you do something again it must have
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    been done
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    before and the point I made is when
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    before do we ever see a commission to
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    prophesy to the entire world and I
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    suggested that that was in the days of
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    the Apostles when the message first was
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    given Jesus told them to go into all the
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    world to Every Nation people tongues and
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    kings and preach the
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    gospel that's the message now the angel
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    says to John you must prophesy again and
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    the reason for this is that during the
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    2,000 intervening years the gospel has
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    been largely
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    lost now they say the gospel was
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    restored in the time of the reformation
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    and that is partially true but the
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    Reformation brought an emphasis that I
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    believe is only partial and that's a
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    point I want to make most people when
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    they think about the gospel you know
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    what they think about they think about
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    how can man be saved I'm going to put
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    something to you that I'd like you to
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    lock away in your minds that the
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    question of man's salvation is only a a
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    small part of the Gospel man's salvation
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    is a small part of the gospel and if we
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    don't understand this it's difficult to
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    be in sync with God's purposes
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    I can say
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    this I stopped being concerned about my
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    salvation 40 49 years ago that's how
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    long I became a Christian in 49 years
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    I've never ever felt that I would be
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    lost or I might be
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    lost that's the kind of assurance I got
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    when I when I met the
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    Lord and even though I'm not suggesting
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    that I've been
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    perfect I've had moments when I so reget
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    regretted how I let him down but I I I
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    was never in any confusion as to what it
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    meant that God had received me as his
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    son I've never felt like I would ever be
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    lost so somebody might say if this is
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    true what motivation do you have for
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    doing better what motivation do you have
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    for serving the lord brothers and
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    sisters if our only motivation is to
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    save
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    myself you're self-centered and there's
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    something inherently wrong with that
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    after you become a Christian we we have
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    been called for something greater
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    something nobler and this greater
  • 00:14:04
    purpose is what I I hope to be able to
  • 00:14:07
    to
  • 00:14:09
    highlight today and maybe in in the next
  • 00:14:12
    presentation there's something more that
  • 00:14:14
    is involved in the good news that is
  • 00:14:16
    greater than the salvation of men and if
  • 00:14:19
    you are locked in there then your
  • 00:14:22
    understanding of God's purposes will be
  • 00:14:24
    necessarily very
  • 00:14:26
    limited so
  • 00:14:29
    now let me let me Skip to My Bible very
  • 00:14:31
    quickly I want you to look at something
  • 00:14:34
    um I need a different screen here but um
  • 00:14:36
    I want to go to
  • 00:14:38
    Revelation chapter
  • 00:14:41
    10 and um just just highlight something
  • 00:14:44
    something everybody knows there's no
  • 00:14:46
    question about it but I want to
  • 00:14:47
    highlight it
  • 00:14:49
    because sometimes it's good when we look
  • 00:14:51
    at it actually look at it it brings it
  • 00:14:53
    out more sharply to our mind I'm going
  • 00:14:54
    to Revelation 10 in the left panel I'm
  • 00:14:57
    in Revelation 10
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    in the right panel I'm in Revelation 11
  • 00:15:02
    all right now you know that when the
  • 00:15:05
    Bible was written there were no chapter
  • 00:15:08
    divisions so the chapter divisions are
  • 00:15:10
    put in by the
  • 00:15:12
    translators now the last thing you see
  • 00:15:14
    in Revelation 11 the last verse says he
  • 00:15:18
    said unto
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    me you must prophesy again before many
  • 00:15:22
    peoples and Nations and tongues and
  • 00:15:23
    kings and without pause instantly it
  • 00:15:26
    goes to the first verse of chapter 11
  • 00:15:29
    there's no chapter division when you
  • 00:15:30
    read the
  • 00:15:32
    Bible so you must prophesy again before
  • 00:15:36
    many peoples and Nations and tongues and
  • 00:15:38
    kings and there was given to me a re
  • 00:15:40
    like a rod and the angel stood saying
  • 00:15:44
    rise measure the temple of God and the
  • 00:15:47
    Altar and those who Worship in it so
  • 00:15:50
    verse 11 of chapter 10 and verse one of
  • 00:15:54
    chapter 11 they follow right behind one
  • 00:15:57
    another is what I'm saying
  • 00:16:00
    so it's it's reasonable to deduce or to
  • 00:16:05
    conclude that chapter
  • 00:16:07
    one verse one of chapter 11 is a follow
  • 00:16:11
    through or an explanation or a further
  • 00:16:14
    expansion on the last verse of chapter
  • 00:16:16
    10 right so what am I to prophesy about
  • 00:16:20
    what am I to to speak about I must
  • 00:16:22
    prophesy again and we say yeah the
  • 00:16:25
    gospel but what particularly about the
  • 00:16:27
    gospel well here is what the angel says
  • 00:16:31
    next he gives John something like a rod
  • 00:16:35
    and he says measure the temple of God
  • 00:16:38
    and those who Worship in it and the
  • 00:16:41
    Altar and those who Worship in it so so
  • 00:16:43
    this is connected to the
  • 00:16:45
    message that John is to give to the
  • 00:16:50
    world this this requires a little bit of
  • 00:16:52
    reasoning and that's why I'm trying to
  • 00:16:53
    be so painfully meticulous I want to
  • 00:16:56
    make sure that everybody understands my
  • 00:16:58
    reasoning
  • 00:16:59
    when it comes to the Bible you compare
  • 00:17:02
    one scripture with another but you have
  • 00:17:03
    to reason a little bit because you have
  • 00:17:05
    to you have to put the ideas
  • 00:17:07
    together in some kind of logical order
  • 00:17:11
    and I'm saying this because people say
  • 00:17:12
    all the time look here when it comes to
  • 00:17:14
    the Bible human reasoning doesn't count
  • 00:17:17
    and human human logic is not the issue
  • 00:17:20
    but but you're not an
  • 00:17:22
    idiot you read the Bible but you have to
  • 00:17:25
    understand what you read so to say that
  • 00:17:27
    you just read and you don't think about
  • 00:17:28
    that you read is is is a Fool's
  • 00:17:33
    approach you read and then you have to
  • 00:17:36
    wrly divide so you have to reason a
  • 00:17:38
    little bit so in everything that I'm
  • 00:17:41
    trying to present I'm trying to I'm
  • 00:17:43
    trying to to get us all to follow the
  • 00:17:45
    same kind of reasoning so that we don't
  • 00:17:48
    get off into nonsensical conclusions
  • 00:17:52
    right so I'm taking my time um and I
  • 00:17:56
    will say at the end if you think so some
  • 00:17:58
    of this these deductions and reasonings
  • 00:18:02
    are unreasonable please at the end you
  • 00:18:06
    can tell me all right you can even tell
  • 00:18:08
    me publicly I don't mind but save it
  • 00:18:11
    until the end but I would like to know
  • 00:18:12
    if if my reasoning isn't is is
  • 00:18:15
    irrational I would like to know so
  • 00:18:19
    anyway so John is told that he must
  • 00:18:22
    measure he's given a read like a rod and
  • 00:18:24
    he's told to measure the temple of
  • 00:18:27
    God the those that Worship in it but the
  • 00:18:30
    court which is without the temple leave
  • 00:18:31
    out and measure it not for it is given
  • 00:18:33
    unto the Gentiles and the holy city
  • 00:18:35
    shall they tread on the foot 40 and two
  • 00:18:37
    months I know that at least one person
  • 00:18:39
    here will recognize that this is a
  • 00:18:41
    picture I pirated from the Jehovah's
  • 00:18:43
    Witnesses
  • 00:18:46
    so they they had a nice picture it says
  • 00:18:48
    what I wanted to see I took it so I'm
  • 00:18:51
    sure they won't sue
  • 00:18:53
    me
  • 00:18:54
    um now when you talk about measuring
  • 00:18:57
    something what are you doing my grandson
  • 00:19:01
    is
  • 00:19:02
    always standing against the wall so I
  • 00:19:05
    can put a
  • 00:19:06
    ruler and I can see where he is and
  • 00:19:08
    every time he goes up by a fraction of
  • 00:19:10
    an inch he's
  • 00:19:12
    delighted when you measure something
  • 00:19:15
    what are you trying to
  • 00:19:17
    do you're making a judgment you're
  • 00:19:20
    you're
  • 00:19:22
    analyzing you are
  • 00:19:24
    assessing you could even be said to be
  • 00:19:27
    judging it's a form of judgment okay you
  • 00:19:30
    can measure in different ways you can
  • 00:19:32
    measure somebody's height you can
  • 00:19:33
    measure somebody's character you can
  • 00:19:35
    measure somebody's ability in a certain
  • 00:19:37
    subject you have different ways of of
  • 00:19:39
    measuring when I was a teacher I used to
  • 00:19:41
    measure my students ability to Reason by
  • 00:19:44
    maybe giving
  • 00:19:46
    comprehension tests you measure
  • 00:19:49
    somebody's ability in math by giving
  • 00:19:50
    them math problems and then you give
  • 00:19:52
    them a an a a mark afterwards 9 out of
  • 00:19:55
    10 or something but measuring signifies
  • 00:19:58
    assessing and another way to do it to to
  • 00:20:01
    to to label it would be to say it's a
  • 00:20:04
    way of
  • 00:20:05
    judging
  • 00:20:07
    now what does this mean it's in the
  • 00:20:10
    Bible right John is given some kind of
  • 00:20:14
    measuring instrument and he's told to
  • 00:20:17
    measure to assess to analyze the temple
  • 00:20:21
    of
  • 00:20:22
    God what go out and measure a
  • 00:20:25
    building it doesn't make much sense
  • 00:20:27
    until you begin to understand the temple
  • 00:20:29
    in the Bible is not simply the building
  • 00:20:33
    the New Testament concept of the temple
  • 00:20:35
    is not a
  • 00:20:37
    building it's a it's a structure that is
  • 00:20:40
    made up of people the temple of God is a
  • 00:20:42
    Church of the Living God and in also
  • 00:20:47
    associated with that is that your body
  • 00:20:49
    is a temple of the Living God if we go
  • 00:20:52
    by the New Testament interpretation of
  • 00:20:54
    Temple John is being told that there is
  • 00:20:58
    something which constitutes measuring
  • 00:21:01
    the Church of
  • 00:21:03
    God assessing analyzing the Church of
  • 00:21:06
    God as a part of the message that is to
  • 00:21:09
    be given when the Book of Daniel is
  • 00:21:12
    understood
  • 00:21:17
    properly measuring the temple assessing
  • 00:21:19
    or judging
  • 00:21:22
    now what is interesting is that in the
  • 00:21:24
    Book of Daniel in the Book of Daniel in
  • 00:21:26
    that book that was locked up
  • 00:21:29
    there is a scene there is a place which
  • 00:21:31
    focuses particularly on judgment now I'm
  • 00:21:35
    making a connection because I'm going to
  • 00:21:37
    come to a
  • 00:21:38
    point normally we read about this
  • 00:21:41
    judgment and um let me actually go to
  • 00:21:44
    Daniel
  • 00:21:45
    7 I have the verses here but I think
  • 00:21:48
    reading it from the Bible is a little
  • 00:21:50
    bit
  • 00:21:53
    more it makes it a little bit
  • 00:21:57
    more it we're able to focus better I'm
  • 00:22:01
    going to go to Daniel
  • 00:22:04
    7 and um I want you to look at that
  • 00:22:06
    judgment scene now you know you know
  • 00:22:08
    what happens in this chapter and by the
  • 00:22:11
    way I'm hurrying through some things
  • 00:22:14
    that normally we would take time to
  • 00:22:15
    study I'm I'm making some assumptions
  • 00:22:18
    I'm assuming that most people here if
  • 00:22:20
    not everybody is familiar with the books
  • 00:22:22
    of Daniel and Revelation Maybe I'm
  • 00:22:25
    Wrong at the end of this study I'm going
  • 00:22:27
    to put
  • 00:22:29
    an address on the
  • 00:22:31
    screen
  • 00:22:33
    where I
  • 00:22:35
    have some studies on the books of Daniel
  • 00:22:38
    and
  • 00:22:39
    Revelation
  • 00:22:41
    on two YouTube channels I'm going to put
  • 00:22:44
    it on the board so that the gaps that
  • 00:22:46
    I'm going to leave out this morning I'm
  • 00:22:48
    going through in a bit of a hurry
  • 00:22:49
    because I only have an hour so the gaps
  • 00:22:52
    that I necessarily have to leave out I'm
  • 00:22:54
    going to put the the the links on the
  • 00:22:56
    screen where we can do a more
  • 00:22:58
    comprehensive if we have the time or can
  • 00:23:00
    make the time to look at those
  • 00:23:03
    videos we can go through from chapter
  • 00:23:06
    the beginning of Revelation to the end
  • 00:23:07
    of Revelation and some of these things
  • 00:23:09
    that I'm I'm rushing over you can see
  • 00:23:12
    the details and get a better idea of why
  • 00:23:14
    do we say these things now in Daniel 7
  • 00:23:18
    of course you know about the four Beast
  • 00:23:19
    the lion the bear the the leopard and
  • 00:23:23
    the great and terrible Beast now also
  • 00:23:26
    the little horn that comes up on the
  • 00:23:28
    head of this terrible Beast now at the
  • 00:23:30
    during the career of this little horn
  • 00:23:32
    something extraordinary happens I
  • 00:23:37
    always let me talk to you a little
  • 00:23:39
    frankly a little freely okay I'm among
  • 00:23:41
    friends but I would say it even if I was
  • 00:23:44
    among enemies I am I am
  • 00:23:48
    not I've gotten to the place where I
  • 00:23:53
    don't I'm not defending denominations
  • 00:23:58
    I am I am very very very strongly a
  • 00:24:01
    person who uses the Bible and the Bible
  • 00:24:05
    alone but my background is that I've
  • 00:24:08
    been a 7day Adventist and there there
  • 00:24:11
    are certain things that adventism
  • 00:24:14
    teaches that are highly
  • 00:24:18
    criticized I cannot get away from them
  • 00:24:21
    I'm telling you the truth okay I'm not
  • 00:24:23
    defending a denomination but there are
  • 00:24:25
    certain things that I believe God God
  • 00:24:29
    God locked up in the Advent movement
  • 00:24:32
    speaking very freely most of you know my
  • 00:24:34
    background and you know my position but
  • 00:24:36
    there are two things in adventism that
  • 00:24:39
    makes me believe God was trying to do
  • 00:24:42
    something with that movement now I also
  • 00:24:45
    believe that the church became so locked
  • 00:24:49
    into
  • 00:24:51
    legalism until today that they they got
  • 00:24:54
    diverted from what God was trying to say
  • 00:24:56
    that's my honest heart heartfelt belief
  • 00:24:59
    without bias or Prejudice the church
  • 00:25:02
    today does not understand the meaning of
  • 00:25:05
    what God was giving and the two things I
  • 00:25:07
    mean is God taught them about an end
  • 00:25:10
    time day of
  • 00:25:12
    atonement as far as I know the Adventist
  • 00:25:14
    Church is the only group on Earth that
  • 00:25:17
    teaches this even though they
  • 00:25:19
    misunderstand so many aspects of it but
  • 00:25:22
    I think God gave the truth to them at
  • 00:25:24
    the beginning because it's very
  • 00:25:25
    important and the second thing is the TR
  • 00:25:28
    it's a it's it's Affiliated is the truth
  • 00:25:31
    of a
  • 00:25:32
    pre-advent
  • 00:25:35
    judgment I like to say it that way I
  • 00:25:37
    don't like to say investigative judgment
  • 00:25:38
    because the investigative judgment is a
  • 00:25:41
    concept that holds Terrors for many
  • 00:25:44
    people it's presented in a way that it
  • 00:25:47
    seems to jeopardize the salvation of
  • 00:25:49
    people the legalistic overtones of that
  • 00:25:53
    idea I will not be associated with it
  • 00:25:56
    but what is absolutely true is that the
  • 00:25:57
    Bible teaches for every honest rational
  • 00:26:03
    Bible student there is a pre-advent
  • 00:26:06
    judgment in the Bible there's a judgment
  • 00:26:08
    before Jesus comes again that's Bible
  • 00:26:12
    has nothing to do with denominations but
  • 00:26:14
    it's interesting to me and it means a
  • 00:26:16
    lot that God gave it to the Advent
  • 00:26:18
    movement and that's the reason why
  • 00:26:20
    although I'm not defending a
  • 00:26:23
    denomination I am not condemning the
  • 00:26:26
    Advent movement because I can't do that
  • 00:26:28
    because I can't explain who gave these
  • 00:26:30
    messages to that movement but what I
  • 00:26:33
    know is that I am fully persuaded that
  • 00:26:37
    legalism has destroyed the value of
  • 00:26:40
    these teachings to a great extent and
  • 00:26:44
    um you know I'm persuaded that even
  • 00:26:47
    those who talk about righteousness by
  • 00:26:48
    faith they don't understand the extent
  • 00:26:50
    of that legalism they don't understand
  • 00:26:52
    somewhere lurking in the background
  • 00:26:54
    there is always a a subservience to the
  • 00:26:58
    law
  • 00:26:58
    somewhere in the background no matter
  • 00:27:00
    how they talk about righteousness by
  • 00:27:01
    faith always in the background there is
  • 00:27:04
    this subservience to the
  • 00:27:07
    legal implications that they never get
  • 00:27:10
    away from I appreciated what brother
  • 00:27:12
    Steven was trying to say last night
  • 00:27:13
    because what he was doing he was trying
  • 00:27:15
    to get us away from thinking about the
  • 00:27:17
    law and to think about the relationship
  • 00:27:19
    with God as the primary
  • 00:27:22
    focus I mean I we don't have the time at
  • 00:27:25
    this camp meeting to explore that enough
  • 00:27:28
    but that is such a a a a a
  • 00:27:33
    precious vital thing to understand I'm
  • 00:27:37
    sure that even in this room there there
  • 00:27:39
    are are some of us who who we don't
  • 00:27:41
    understand the the depth of the of the
  • 00:27:45
    infusion of this legal mindset into our
  • 00:27:48
    thinking it's very hard to get out of it
  • 00:27:50
    but always from the beginning God wasn't
  • 00:27:54
    concerned so much about the rules to be
  • 00:27:56
    obeyed that was never the issue
  • 00:27:59
    the real issue
  • 00:28:01
    was our relationship with our father was
  • 00:28:06
    broken since I touched on it I just give
  • 00:28:08
    you a little example you
  • 00:28:11
    know the prodal son and I could have use
  • 00:28:14
    my grandson or any of my children closer
  • 00:28:17
    to to my heart you know the prodigal
  • 00:28:19
    goes
  • 00:28:20
    away he feeding swine he's eating hugs
  • 00:28:24
    food he he's he's whing away his
  • 00:28:27
    father's money money what do you think
  • 00:28:29
    the father is concerned
  • 00:28:31
    about every day my money is being Lost
  • 00:28:34
    Boy spending my money wasting my money
  • 00:28:36
    he's disgracing the family eating
  • 00:28:38
    feeding hugs and eating hog food what do
  • 00:28:41
    you think is going through the father's
  • 00:28:42
    mind you think he cares about the money
  • 00:28:45
    you think he cares about the fact that
  • 00:28:46
    his his family's reputation is at
  • 00:28:48
    stake he sits on the Vera every day as
  • 00:28:51
    one person says he has his binoculars to
  • 00:28:53
    his eyes watching the path watching the
  • 00:28:56
    path all he wants to see is the rugged
  • 00:29:00
    form of his son coming back that's all
  • 00:29:03
    he wants to see not a word about the
  • 00:29:06
    money lost not a word about the the
  • 00:29:08
    family name being dragged in the dust he
  • 00:29:11
    just grabs him and he he
  • 00:29:15
    does everything to make the boy
  • 00:29:18
    understand your mind again he puts the
  • 00:29:20
    robe around him he treats him like
  • 00:29:24
    royalty that's a beautiful story but it
  • 00:29:27
    it expressed is the way
  • 00:29:29
    God really what the issues really are
  • 00:29:33
    what what what many Christians have done
  • 00:29:36
    is that they have the the son come back
  • 00:29:39
    and the father says I'm going to put
  • 00:29:41
    this Rob around you but I want to make
  • 00:29:44
    sure that you don't go away again and I
  • 00:29:46
    want to make sure that you you have
  • 00:29:48
    learned how to spend money carefully and
  • 00:29:50
    I want to make sure that you have
  • 00:29:51
    learned the danger of e of feeding
  • 00:29:54
    hugs that's how many Christians see
  • 00:29:57
    Christianity
  • 00:29:59
    they can't get away from the
  • 00:30:00
    implications of I am I am I am on
  • 00:30:05
    probation I I am being watched I am
  • 00:30:07
    being held accountable even though I am
  • 00:30:12
    saved the most beautiful thing we can
  • 00:30:14
    ever learn is that God is a father that
  • 00:30:18
    God is a daddy I say Daddy because for
  • 00:30:21
    me Daddy means more than father father
  • 00:30:24
    is a a a a a biological
  • 00:30:29
    condition
  • 00:30:31
    Daddy when I said Daddy it had warmth it
  • 00:30:34
    had love it had tolerance it had
  • 00:30:37
    patience all of that was involved in the
  • 00:30:39
    word daddy so I like the word
  • 00:30:41
    anyway I'm distracted a little bit um
  • 00:30:45
    let me go back to
  • 00:30:46
    Daniel so what we see is that during the
  • 00:30:50
    career of the fourth Beast and the
  • 00:30:52
    little horn something happens Daniel uh
  • 00:30:55
    Daniel says I saw till the Thrones were
  • 00:30:57
    cast on Thrones were set in place and
  • 00:30:59
    the Ancient of Days did sit he goes on
  • 00:31:01
    to describe God the Father sitting on a
  • 00:31:03
    throne it
  • 00:31:06
    says the Judgment was set and the books
  • 00:31:09
    were
  • 00:31:10
    open which
  • 00:31:13
    judgment is it the Judgment 1,000 years
  • 00:31:16
    in the
  • 00:31:17
    future no this judgment is while the
  • 00:31:20
    little horn is speaking great words at
  • 00:31:24
    judgment sits where obviously in heaven
  • 00:31:27
    the father sits and angels are all
  • 00:31:29
    around him the 10,000 time 10,000s they
  • 00:31:31
    are angels they are not people if if
  • 00:31:34
    people read carelessly carelessly they
  • 00:31:37
    think these are people but when you go
  • 00:31:39
    to Revelation where the same exact
  • 00:31:41
    terminology is used 10,000 time 10,000
  • 00:31:44
    and thousands of thousands of angels we
  • 00:31:46
    are told that these are angels what are
  • 00:31:48
    they therefore they are therefore the
  • 00:31:53
    Judgment so look what happens in the
  • 00:31:56
    Judgment I held then I kept on looking
  • 00:31:59
    then verse 11 because of the voice of
  • 00:32:00
    the great words which a horn spake I
  • 00:32:03
    beheld even till the Beast was slain and
  • 00:32:05
    his body destroyed and given to the
  • 00:32:07
    Burning Flame when during the time of
  • 00:32:10
    the Judgment or at the end of the
  • 00:32:12
    Judgment the Beast is slain the Beast is
  • 00:32:15
    a is is a an institution that exists on
  • 00:32:19
    planet Earth this is not at the end of
  • 00:32:22
    time this is during the career of the
  • 00:32:24
    fourth Beast which is Rome the judgment
  • 00:32:29
    sits and the sentence is that the Beast
  • 00:32:31
    is destroyed and given to the Burning
  • 00:32:33
    Flame the
  • 00:32:36
    problem with Revel with Daniel 7 is that
  • 00:32:39
    I usually would stop at that point I
  • 00:32:41
    would stop at this point but let me go a
  • 00:32:43
    little further now verse 13 is a part of
  • 00:32:46
    the same passage I saw in the night
  • 00:32:50
    visions and behold one like the son of
  • 00:32:52
    man came at the clouds of heaven and
  • 00:32:54
    came to the Ancient of Days and they
  • 00:32:56
    brought him near before him no way you
  • 00:32:58
    can think that this is happening on
  • 00:32:59
    Earth Jesus the son of man he comes with
  • 00:33:02
    the Clouds Of Heaven I believe this
  • 00:33:04
    these clouds of Heaven have to be an
  • 00:33:07
    Entourage of angels I don't think there
  • 00:33:09
    are clouds in
  • 00:33:10
    heaven right I think it's an Entourage
  • 00:33:12
    of angels and they bring Jesus into the
  • 00:33:14
    presence of the father Heaven is a real
  • 00:33:17
    place things happen there and when does
  • 00:33:20
    this happen that's the question when
  • 00:33:22
    does this happen it happens at the same
  • 00:33:24
    time that the Beast is sentenced there
  • 00:33:26
    are two consequences of the Judgment
  • 00:33:29
    this was what I missed for most of my
  • 00:33:33
    life there are two consequences I never
  • 00:33:37
    it never hit me that there are not four
  • 00:33:39
    Kingdoms in Daniel 7 there are five
  • 00:33:44
    kingdoms The Lion The Bear the leopard
  • 00:33:48
    the terrible Beast and the kingdom of
  • 00:33:51
    Jesus Christ there are five
  • 00:33:55
    kingdoms I missed the five kingdom
  • 00:33:58
    look at what it says the Judgment sits
  • 00:34:00
    and in the Judgment there is a there is
  • 00:34:03
    an assessment of two kingdoms there's a
  • 00:34:05
    kingdom of the Beast he goes to the
  • 00:34:07
    Burning Flame there's a kingdom of
  • 00:34:09
    Christ also
  • 00:34:12
    assessed and in verse 14 it says and
  • 00:34:15
    there was given him dominion and glory
  • 00:34:18
    and a kingdom that all peoples Nations
  • 00:34:21
    and languages should serve him his
  • 00:34:23
    Dominion is an everlasting Dominion
  • 00:34:25
    which shall not pass away and his
  • 00:34:27
    kingdom om that which shall not be
  • 00:34:29
    destroyed so two consequences the Beast
  • 00:34:31
    kingdom is destroyed the kingdom of
  • 00:34:33
    Christ is given the the the the latitude
  • 00:34:36
    the The Authority the privilege of
  • 00:34:39
    lasting forever and
  • 00:34:41
    ever now how does this make
  • 00:34:45
    sense that the kingdom of Christ is
  • 00:34:47
    judged how does this make
  • 00:34:49
    sense I really if you have never been
  • 00:34:52
    exposed to this idea I really would like
  • 00:34:54
    you to watch those videos on Daniel and
  • 00:34:56
    the Revelation but let me just say quick
  • 00:34:59
    we all
  • 00:35:01
    assume that the kingdom of God is a
  • 00:35:04
    given God's kingdom
  • 00:35:07
    automatically receives Authority why
  • 00:35:10
    because God is
  • 00:35:13
    God no that's not how it works and I I I
  • 00:35:17
    will I will just reason a little bit and
  • 00:35:19
    then I will demonstrate it to you that's
  • 00:35:22
    not how it
  • 00:35:23
    works you know what I will leave it
  • 00:35:26
    until I get there it's on my it's in my
  • 00:35:29
    notes and I think I should take it in
  • 00:35:30
    order otherwise I'm going to be
  • 00:35:32
    repeating myself so the Beast is given
  • 00:35:35
    to the Burning Flame pardon the crude
  • 00:35:39
    illustration so the Beast is judged and
  • 00:35:43
    the other part one like the son of man
  • 00:35:45
    comes at the clouds of heaven and they
  • 00:35:47
    brought him near before
  • 00:35:49
    him see I'm repeating myself because I
  • 00:35:51
    had it all here and then there is given
  • 00:35:54
    to him glory and Dominion that all
  • 00:35:56
    people should serve
  • 00:35:58
    him two consequences in the
  • 00:36:01
    Judgment two entities two kingdoms being
  • 00:36:05
    judged the underlying theme of Daniel 7
  • 00:36:09
    is
  • 00:36:09
    Judgment there is a judgment but the
  • 00:36:12
    problem with the judgment is people
  • 00:36:13
    don't understand the nature of this
  • 00:36:15
    judgment and the issues in the
  • 00:36:19
    Judgment the reason for the judgment and
  • 00:36:21
    I think I'm getting to my point here now
  • 00:36:24
    so we have to understand first of all
  • 00:36:27
    sat 's three-fold
  • 00:36:29
    attack now Satan in the beginning
  • 00:36:32
    attacked two
  • 00:36:35
    things I think brother Steve was also
  • 00:36:37
    alluding to that last night but I I I
  • 00:36:40
    might add some elements that he maybe
  • 00:36:42
    didn't cover Satan attacked God in the
  • 00:36:45
    beginning now I'm going beyond the
  • 00:36:46
    Garden of Eden because first thing I
  • 00:36:49
    want us to understand is that Satan's
  • 00:36:52
    Satan's Rebellion did not start in the
  • 00:36:55
    Garden of Eden the problem in the
  • 00:36:57
    universe did not start in the Garden of
  • 00:37:00
    Eden the the the problem in the universe
  • 00:37:04
    is greater than planet Earth that's why
  • 00:37:06
    I say the salvation of man is a
  • 00:37:08
    secondary issue before man sin did God
  • 00:37:11
    have a
  • 00:37:12
    problem yeah there was a there was a
  • 00:37:15
    devil there was a devil who attacked God
  • 00:37:17
    before man sinned the attack upon
  • 00:37:20
    Humanity was simply a part of his
  • 00:37:24
    assault against God he wanted us because
  • 00:37:27
    we were God's Property he wanted us
  • 00:37:29
    because he could use us as Tools in his
  • 00:37:31
    plan to overthrow the government of God
  • 00:37:35
    but the problem existed before the good
  • 00:37:38
    news is not just about saving man the
  • 00:37:41
    good news has to do with something
  • 00:37:45
    greater that's why I am I I I believe
  • 00:37:49
    some of these
  • 00:37:50
    ideas would not be possible to
  • 00:37:52
    understand properly unless we grasp the
  • 00:37:55
    message of Daniel unless we understand
  • 00:37:57
    the Judgment taking place in
  • 00:37:59
    Daniel first of all he attacked God's
  • 00:38:02
    character now the Bible doesn't say a
  • 00:38:04
    lot
  • 00:38:05
    about the war in heaven
  • 00:38:09
    before man sin but we get some glimpses
  • 00:38:12
    of the way Satan goes about things don't
  • 00:38:14
    we he comes to Adam and Eve and he says
  • 00:38:17
    God is a
  • 00:38:18
    liar God knows that if you eat this
  • 00:38:20
    fruit you will become like God but God
  • 00:38:23
    is a kind of person like this he's
  • 00:38:25
    trying to keep you down he doesn't want
  • 00:38:26
    you to progress
  • 00:38:28
    he doesn't want you to to to be like him
  • 00:38:30
    and so he tells you not to do this and
  • 00:38:32
    it really is good for you he's
  • 00:38:33
    slandering God's
  • 00:38:37
    character he tries to make God out to be
  • 00:38:40
    a person with selfish evil motives and
  • 00:38:43
    of course he succeeded that's why we're
  • 00:38:45
    where we are today he attacked God's
  • 00:38:48
    character number one secondly he
  • 00:38:49
    attacked God's
  • 00:38:52
    government now this how do we why do we
  • 00:38:56
    say this and how do we prove this well
  • 00:38:58
    if you look at what happened when when
  • 00:39:00
    he went to heaven in the Book of
  • 00:39:03
    Job and he
  • 00:39:05
    attacked God's way of dealing with job
  • 00:39:08
    you remember the story he said job is
  • 00:39:10
    only serving you because you are taking
  • 00:39:13
    care of him it's not because you're good
  • 00:39:15
    it's not because there's anything in you
  • 00:39:17
    that is worth serving but job is serving
  • 00:39:19
    you because you are taking care of him
  • 00:39:22
    protecting him and so he's only doing
  • 00:39:24
    this for his own benefit it's not
  • 00:39:27
    because he thinks your way is better you
  • 00:39:29
    read between the lines and you see what
  • 00:39:30
    he's insinuating he's saying that nobody
  • 00:39:32
    could really serve God out of love and
  • 00:39:35
    admiration because God is not good
  • 00:39:37
    enough but job is doing it because he's
  • 00:39:40
    benefiting and God had to permit him to
  • 00:39:45
    terribly afflict job just to prove the
  • 00:39:47
    point
  • 00:39:49
    so the third thing that he did was he
  • 00:39:51
    attacked the human race and as I said
  • 00:39:54
    the attack against the human race was
  • 00:39:57
    the because we belonged to God and
  • 00:40:00
    because I think he sensed that in some
  • 00:40:02
    way we could become
  • 00:40:05
    Tools in God's battle to to clear his
  • 00:40:08
    name so he attacked the human race and
  • 00:40:10
    we know he succeeded
  • 00:40:12
    so Satan's method now we have to
  • 00:40:16
    understand this otherwise we can't
  • 00:40:17
    understand what is going on Satan's
  • 00:40:19
    method was based entirely on propaganda
  • 00:40:23
    now that's
  • 00:40:26
    obvious pictures sometimes confus us
  • 00:40:30
    when you go to Revelation 12 and it says
  • 00:40:31
    and there was war in heaven have you
  • 00:40:33
    ever seen the
  • 00:40:34
    pictures as the angels with swords right
  • 00:40:38
    and they they are they are in physical
  • 00:40:42
    Warfare
  • 00:40:44
    and I realize that that is so misleading
  • 00:40:49
    because if God created Satan by
  • 00:40:52
    speaking and if God upholds the universe
  • 00:40:54
    by the word of his power how long will
  • 00:40:57
    Satan last in a physical battle with
  • 00:41:01
    god if if Satan had
  • 00:41:04
    hope how could Jesus say to the the the
  • 00:41:07
    the Legion of
  • 00:41:08
    devils he could say to the Legion of
  • 00:41:11
    devils come out of this this man and
  • 00:41:13
    over a thousand Devils had to leave
  • 00:41:16
    instantly can evil angels put up a fight
  • 00:41:18
    against God's angels if it's a physical
  • 00:41:21
    battle it's
  • 00:41:23
    impossible so so the Warfare that we are
  • 00:41:26
    talking about cannot be a conflict of
  • 00:41:29
    force but it's a conflict that is based
  • 00:41:32
    on ideology
  • 00:41:35
    ideas and if s the way Satan fights this
  • 00:41:38
    war makes sense he uses propaganda okay
  • 00:41:41
    if you can't fight somebody there are so
  • 00:41:43
    many people in here that I mean I'm one
  • 00:41:45
    of the smallest men in
  • 00:41:48
    here I have a little bit of strength but
  • 00:41:51
    I mean I wouldn't try to to to to go
  • 00:41:54
    into a contest against some of the other
  • 00:41:55
    folks in here because I would lose right
  • 00:41:58
    but I can still beat you in some ways
  • 00:42:00
    right I I if we have something going on
  • 00:42:03
    I can find a way to use my brain to
  • 00:42:06
    maybe get public opinion turned against
  • 00:42:08
    you so badly that you creep out of here
  • 00:42:10
    with your tail between your legs because
  • 00:42:12
    I have shamed you and I've lied on you
  • 00:42:15
    and I've made everybody believe that
  • 00:42:16
    you're a
  • 00:42:17
    scoundrel I can work in this way if I am
  • 00:42:20
    devious enough and I'm that kind of
  • 00:42:21
    person that way we are not
  • 00:42:24
    fighting with Force of Arms but it's a
  • 00:42:27
    just the same and it's one I can hope to
  • 00:42:29
    use if I'm I can hope to win if I'm
  • 00:42:32
    smart enough That's what Satan tried to
  • 00:42:34
    do there's no way you can explain the
  • 00:42:37
    rebellion of Lucifer against God unless
  • 00:42:39
    you explain it this way it's a
  • 00:42:42
    propaganda War it's a war of information
  • 00:42:45
    That's what Satan set out to do in
  • 00:42:47
    trying to destroy God it's the only way
  • 00:42:50
    you can fight against God somebody will
  • 00:42:53
    say it doesn't make any sense God God
  • 00:42:57
    all God has to do is destroy him with a
  • 00:42:58
    snap of his fingers that's all he has to
  • 00:43:00
    do but that's not all he will do because
  • 00:43:02
    if that was what God would do Satan
  • 00:43:04
    would have been dead at least 6,000
  • 00:43:06
    years
  • 00:43:08
    ago the problem is that a good ruler
  • 00:43:12
    does not rule by force he rules because
  • 00:43:16
    the population wants him to
  • 00:43:19
    rule the population admires him loves
  • 00:43:23
    him desires him sees that his way is
  • 00:43:25
    good and wants him as their ruler that's
  • 00:43:28
    the way a good ruler rules a good father
  • 00:43:31
    manages his family in the same way those
  • 00:43:34
    who are dictators and who compel people
  • 00:43:36
    to
  • 00:43:37
    behave people don't stay around them
  • 00:43:41
    long God is a good God we say and it
  • 00:43:45
    means he's good also in his government
  • 00:43:47
    the way he governs people is by the
  • 00:43:50
    choice of the people that stands to
  • 00:43:52
    reason and so to destroy this what Satan
  • 00:43:55
    had to do was Destroy public opinion he
  • 00:43:58
    had to turn public opinion against God
  • 00:44:01
    and clearly he was so successful that
  • 00:44:03
    onethird of highly intelligent
  • 00:44:06
    beings came to accept his
  • 00:44:09
    lies so it it really is
  • 00:44:13
    [Music]
  • 00:44:15
    something
  • 00:44:17
    really
  • 00:44:19
    great that happened in this
  • 00:44:22
    rebellion and the solution to the
  • 00:44:25
    problem was not an easy one
  • 00:44:27
    no other way that Satan could fight God
  • 00:44:29
    it was a it was a war based on
  • 00:44:33
    misinformation how do you defend
  • 00:44:35
    yourself in something like this well the
  • 00:44:36
    first thing God had to give an
  • 00:44:41
    irrefutable revelation of the truth now
  • 00:44:43
    the word
  • 00:44:45
    irrefutable it means that you can't
  • 00:44:48
    argue against
  • 00:44:49
    it how does God
  • 00:44:52
    show that he's a good person how does
  • 00:44:55
    God show the kind of character that he
  • 00:44:56
    has has in a way that nobody can
  • 00:44:59
    question
  • 00:45:01
    it the greater you are the harder it
  • 00:45:05
    is the greater you are the harder it
  • 00:45:09
    is any little child in here 6 years old
  • 00:45:13
    he comes in here I watch him for 5
  • 00:45:15
    minutes I can tell what kind of
  • 00:45:16
    character he has because children don't
  • 00:45:20
    have the capacity to to deceive me
  • 00:45:22
    they're not subtle enough or smart
  • 00:45:23
    enough or tricky or cunning they they
  • 00:45:26
    they they're not they're developed
  • 00:45:27
    enough to be able to fool me I can tell
  • 00:45:28
    you in 6 minutes what a child is
  • 00:45:31
    like somebody who is in his 50s 60s
  • 00:45:35
    70s uh the older people if they set out
  • 00:45:38
    to deceive you they will do it easily
  • 00:45:41
    because theyve learn over their lifetime
  • 00:45:45
    how to mask their
  • 00:45:47
    emotions how to hide them in other words
  • 00:45:50
    if an older person is lying to you it's
  • 00:45:52
    harder to tell if God is lying to you
  • 00:45:55
    it's impossible to tell
  • 00:45:58
    if God sets out to deceive you you don't
  • 00:46:01
    have a chance you're a worm against
  • 00:46:04
    against a mind that is is indescribably
  • 00:46:08
    great what chance do you have if Lucifer
  • 00:46:11
    was right and God is this kind of person
  • 00:46:13
    how could you know God had to find a way
  • 00:46:16
    of giving
  • 00:46:18
    irrefutable evidence of the kind of
  • 00:46:21
    person he
  • 00:46:25
    was and um
  • 00:46:27
    of course the opinion of the people who
  • 00:46:29
    are involved this is what would
  • 00:46:31
    determine whether or not God's
  • 00:46:33
    government would be would remain or it
  • 00:46:35
    would would not remain because
  • 00:46:38
    honestly if God Reveals His true nature
  • 00:46:40
    and we don't want him I don't think God
  • 00:46:42
    is going to stay God is not going to
  • 00:46:45
    dominate and to compel people God is not
  • 00:46:47
    a Hitler God is not a dictator um
  • 00:46:51
    Kim Kim what is his name in Korea he's
  • 00:46:54
    supposed to be the most out standing
  • 00:46:57
    modern dictator I think and what I hear
  • 00:47:00
    about him I certainly wouldn't want to
  • 00:47:01
    have anything to do with his kind of
  • 00:47:03
    government God is not that kind of
  • 00:47:05
    person what God needs to defend him to
  • 00:47:08
    defend him what God needs is unbiased
  • 00:47:12
    judgment and to have unbiased judgment
  • 00:47:14
    you need the right information right
  • 00:47:16
    Satan has given the world bad
  • 00:47:18
    information Satan has given the church
  • 00:47:20
    bad information even in the in in in the
  • 00:47:23
    doctrine of righteousness by works and
  • 00:47:26
    all these certain little things even in
  • 00:47:28
    the doctrine of the Trinity Satan has
  • 00:47:31
    distorted the face of God so
  • 00:47:33
    badly that the Judgment that we beings
  • 00:47:37
    have of God is necessarily
  • 00:47:40
    distorted even even in the best picture
  • 00:47:43
    that we have there are elements of
  • 00:47:45
    ugliness that we don't quite get rid of
  • 00:47:47
    not too easily and God's purpose is to
  • 00:47:50
    clear away all of this unquestionably
  • 00:47:54
    because that's the basis on which God's
  • 00:47:56
    government is to be established forever
  • 00:47:59
    and ever it will be established not
  • 00:48:02
    because God says I am the strongest I am
  • 00:48:05
    the king you subject yourselves no it
  • 00:48:08
    will be established forever because
  • 00:48:10
    God's people say we have discovered the
  • 00:48:14
    beauty of your character we have seen
  • 00:48:17
    the glory of your government and we want
  • 00:48:20
    nothing else for all eternity not just
  • 00:48:23
    people but angels and all the beings
  • 00:48:26
    that exist in the sea and Under the Sea
  • 00:48:28
    and in the earth and under the Earth and
  • 00:48:30
    in the sky and under the sky everything
  • 00:48:32
    that lives will
  • 00:48:35
    know that God is indeed love the good
  • 00:48:39
    news is the good news about the kind of
  • 00:48:42
    God that God is that's ultimately the
  • 00:48:48
    gospel we have made the gospel about
  • 00:48:50
    ourselves but the gospel is really about
  • 00:48:53
    the God that we worship when we properly
  • 00:48:56
    understand that the good news is the
  • 00:48:58
    good news about the kind of God who
  • 00:49:00
    rules the
  • 00:49:03
    universe people think that's nonsense
  • 00:49:05
    they think you're being presumptuous
  • 00:49:07
    you're putting God on judgment we don't
  • 00:49:09
    put God on judgment God puts himself on
  • 00:49:11
    judgment because he will not rule except
  • 00:49:14
    through love and willing submissiveness
  • 00:49:18
    to
  • 00:49:20
    him it is because of God's weapon of
  • 00:49:23
    defense is unbiased judgment he will
  • 00:49:26
    defend himself through our opinion and
  • 00:49:29
    that's amazing that's amazing people
  • 00:49:32
    think of God and all they think about is
  • 00:49:34
    the
  • 00:49:35
    power that's nonsense if power makes you
  • 00:49:39
    no wonder many people worship Satan
  • 00:49:42
    because in this world he dis his Display
  • 00:49:44
    of Power is often very great you know we
  • 00:49:48
    were we were we were worshiping together
  • 00:49:51
    in our fellowship and there was a little
  • 00:49:52
    boy there and my my father when he was
  • 00:49:55
    alive he was talking about um the power
  • 00:49:57
    that God wants to give his people and
  • 00:49:59
    this little boy says that's what I want
  • 00:50:06
    power
  • 00:50:08
    and it was it was amusing we had a good
  • 00:50:11
    laugh but the thing is he was just
  • 00:50:12
    expressing how people are right they
  • 00:50:15
    want
  • 00:50:16
    power I I I often wonder why people go
  • 00:50:20
    through such hoops and and such
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    Shenanigans to become political leaders
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    why and I am convinced it's a power
  • 00:50:29
    therea and people go to worship Satan
  • 00:50:31
    because they looking for power if power
  • 00:50:34
    was the issue many people would have a a
  • 00:50:37
    right in worshiping Satan but God God
  • 00:50:40
    highlights as the greatest revelation of
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    himself not his power but his
  • 00:50:46
    character and we can see that here God's
  • 00:50:49
    answer is the good news but also the
  • 00:50:52
    good news of the kingdom and I'll touch
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    on that in just a moment
  • 00:50:57
    God's answer is first of all to reveal
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    God's character there's your answer
  • 00:51:01
    Satan the revelation of God's
  • 00:51:05
    character secondly God Saves
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    Humanity first of all because we are
  • 00:51:10
    valuable to him and secondly because for
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    part two of his work he needs
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    us and the third thing part two of God's
  • 00:51:20
    work is a revelation of God's government
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    so God Reveals His character and he
  • 00:51:24
    Reveals His government but to reveal his
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    he needs Humanity so he not only saves
  • 00:51:29
    us but he he he brings us into his
  • 00:51:33
    purposes of answering
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    Satan let me tell you that motivates me
  • 00:51:40
    far more than the issue of saving myself
  • 00:51:42
    I said I was saved 49 years ago why do I
  • 00:51:46
    serve him today why do I want to serve
  • 00:51:48
    him when I'm understanding this there is
  • 00:51:50
    a burning desire I want to be a part of
  • 00:51:53
    this mission to vindicate the government
  • 00:51:56
    of my
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    father it's something worth fighting for
  • 00:52:02
    It's A Cause to be a part
  • 00:52:04
    of I want to be the answer I want to be
  • 00:52:07
    a part of that answer that God gives
  • 00:52:09
    against his enemy who has plagued us and
  • 00:52:11
    plagued Our Father for Millennia I want
  • 00:52:15
    if God has an answer and he
  • 00:52:17
    does how wonderful to be a part of that
  • 00:52:20
    answer what what greater purpose could
  • 00:52:23
    there be for
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    Living God took my a out of the way
  • 00:52:28
    settled it so now I have something
  • 00:52:30
    greater to to devote my energies
  • 00:52:33
    to the glorifying of his name and the
  • 00:52:36
    establishing of his
  • 00:52:38
    kingdom so I'm going to I'm going to I'm
  • 00:52:40
    going to put a little chart on the
  • 00:52:41
    screen
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    here and I'm coming to the end in a
  • 00:52:45
    moment but I want to
  • 00:52:48
    highlight the gospel 2,000 years ago and
  • 00:52:52
    to show how the same elements are there
  • 00:52:54
    with slight differences 20 ,000 years
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    later which is our
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    day
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    so there was a messenger 2,000 years ago
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    what was his name it was
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    Elijah but it was actually John the
  • 00:53:09
    Baptist all right John the Baptist was
  • 00:53:11
    the Elijah before
  • 00:53:14
    God establishes his kingdom he sends an
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    Elijah John the Baptist was the Elijah
  • 00:53:21
    he was a messenger what was the message
  • 00:53:24
    the message that he sent was the Gospel
  • 00:53:26
    of of the Kingdom we saw yesterday that
  • 00:53:28
    John Jesus the disciples they all
  • 00:53:30
    preached the Kingdom of Heaven is at
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    hand the message was the kingdom is at
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    hand what was the
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    benefit the benefit was that the kingdom
  • 00:53:40
    was established Jesus Jesus died was
  • 00:53:43
    resurrected went back to heaven and the
  • 00:53:46
    kingdom was established the king came to
  • 00:53:48
    live inside of his
  • 00:53:51
    people the experience is that for 2,000
  • 00:53:56
    years the kingdom of God has been
  • 00:53:59
    growing now I want us to remember this
  • 00:54:02
    because a lot of people don't take that
  • 00:54:05
    part of it into account but if you look
  • 00:54:07
    at all the Parables of Jesus the Kingdom
  • 00:54:09
    of Heaven is like some level that a
  • 00:54:11
    woman took and hid in a measure of
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    meal and it stayed there until the whole
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    was
  • 00:54:19
    leavened it grows the Kingdom of Heaven
  • 00:54:22
    is like a mustard seed that was planted
  • 00:54:24
    in the ground it was the least of all
  • 00:54:25
    seeds but then it became a great
  • 00:54:28
    tree and all the birds of the air could
  • 00:54:30
    find lodgment in its branches something
  • 00:54:32
    like that he talks often about the
  • 00:54:35
    kingdom starting small and growing there
  • 00:54:37
    is a reason why it grows there's a
  • 00:54:40
    reason why God has waited 2,000 years
  • 00:54:42
    before he settles the issues that
  • 00:54:44
    growing period was necessary so the
  • 00:54:48
    kingdom was set up the good news of the
  • 00:54:49
    kingdom was preached the kingdom was at
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    hand and for 2,000 years the kingdom has
  • 00:54:55
    been growing now something
  • 00:54:58
    else before the kingdom could be set up
  • 00:55:01
    something was
  • 00:55:05
    necessary what am I talking
  • 00:55:08
    about before the kingdom was set up the
  • 00:55:10
    king's
  • 00:55:12
    character was
  • 00:55:14
    judged and Humanity was delivered those
  • 00:55:17
    two things took place you you couldn't
  • 00:55:19
    have the kingdom set up unless the king
  • 00:55:22
    first of all was judged now the Bible
  • 00:55:24
    doesn't talk about this very clearly but
  • 00:55:27
    I'll show you the verses that lead to
  • 00:55:29
    this conclusion so look at the pattern I
  • 00:55:32
    have on the screen because I believe
  • 00:55:33
    that this is a pattern at the end as
  • 00:55:35
    well you have an Elijah you have the
  • 00:55:37
    preaching of the Gospel of the Kingdom
  • 00:55:40
    you have a judgment then the kingdom is
  • 00:55:43
    established and then you have the final
  • 00:55:45
    experience if you don't have the
  • 00:55:47
    Judgment first the kingdom is not
  • 00:55:49
    established and I believe it happened
  • 00:55:51
    2,000 years ago let me show
  • 00:55:54
    you look at what Jesus said John 12 and:
  • 00:55:57
    31 when he was about to be crucified
  • 00:55:59
    what did he say now is the Judgment of
  • 00:56:02
    this world there was a judgment before
  • 00:56:06
    Jesus set up his kingdom he talks about
  • 00:56:09
    the Judgment of this world he talk about
  • 00:56:11
    the prince of this world but in every
  • 00:56:13
    one of these judgments brothers and
  • 00:56:15
    sisters I'm going to show you just like
  • 00:56:16
    how you had the Beast judged in Daniel 7
  • 00:56:20
    and the kingdom of Christ judging Daniel
  • 00:56:23
    7 the same thing happened 2,000 years
  • 00:56:25
    ago
  • 00:56:27
    Satan was judged but he was judged
  • 00:56:29
    because Christ was also
  • 00:56:31
    judged and I'll show you where it is
  • 00:56:33
    implied that Christ was judged even
  • 00:56:35
    though it doesn't say so clearly but it
  • 00:56:37
    stands to reason how could Jesus Come
  • 00:56:39
    into his kingdom unless he was first
  • 00:56:43
    examined and we know he was he went
  • 00:56:45
    through the greatest examination of all
  • 00:56:47
    not only while he was living and
  • 00:56:48
    ministering but on the cross he went
  • 00:56:51
    through the greatest examination of all
  • 00:56:54
    the character of God was put on this
  • 00:56:56
    playay the character of God was put
  • 00:56:57
    through the
  • 00:56:58
    ringer God's character was tested to the
  • 00:57:02
    uttermost when his son was dying on the
  • 00:57:04
    cross and Jesus showed the true nature
  • 00:57:08
    of the character of
  • 00:57:11
    God that is
  • 00:57:13
    why what does it say what does it say in
  • 00:57:15
    Hebrews chapter 5 it says he learned
  • 00:57:19
    obedience through the things that he
  • 00:57:21
    suffered what does the next line say and
  • 00:57:24
    being made perfect
  • 00:57:27
    he became the author of Eternal
  • 00:57:30
    salvation Jesus was not qualified to be
  • 00:57:32
    our savior until he was made perfect
  • 00:57:36
    where was he perfected on the cross he
  • 00:57:38
    learned obedience by the things he
  • 00:57:39
    suffered on the cross even the Son of
  • 00:57:41
    God the perfect Son of God was not
  • 00:57:43
    perfect as our savior until he was
  • 00:57:46
    examined and tested and put through the
  • 00:57:48
    ringer and he overcame God's character
  • 00:57:50
    was put on display and he was qualified
  • 00:57:53
    to be our savior
  • 00:57:58
    Hallelujah now is the Judgment of this
  • 00:58:00
    world he talks about this in two places
  • 00:58:03
    it says when the spirit comes he will
  • 00:58:04
    convict the world of judgment because
  • 00:58:06
    the prince of this world is judged Satan
  • 00:58:08
    was judged before Jesus got into his
  • 00:58:10
    kingdom but Jesus also it implies that
  • 00:58:14
    his character was always also tested
  • 00:58:16
    God's God's character was displayed John
  • 00:58:19
    1:8 says no man had seen God at any time
  • 00:58:22
    the only begotten son which is in the
  • 00:58:23
    bdom of the father he has done what he
  • 00:58:24
    has declared already revealed or
  • 00:58:27
    manifested or made him
  • 00:58:29
    known John 17:4 I have glorified thee on
  • 00:58:33
    the earth I have finished the work that
  • 00:58:36
    you gave me to do again
  • 00:58:38
    emphasizing the primary work of Jesus is
  • 00:58:41
    not to save
  • 00:58:43
    man that's important I'm not downplaying
  • 00:58:45
    that but even more important was to
  • 00:58:47
    glorify his father when I glorified you
  • 00:58:50
    on the earth I finished the work that
  • 00:58:52
    you gave me to
  • 00:58:54
    do I have manifested tested your name
  • 00:58:57
    your
  • 00:58:58
    character under the men that you gave me
  • 00:59:00
    out of the world
  • 00:59:02
    so in our day now that top column that
  • 00:59:06
    top row is looking at the message as it
  • 00:59:09
    was 2,000 years
  • 00:59:11
    ago you have Elijah again and this time
  • 00:59:15
    I believe it will ultimately be the
  • 00:59:17
    144,000 but when I say the
  • 00:59:20
    144,000 please understand there are many
  • 00:59:22
    people who think that the 144,000 you
  • 00:59:24
    come to a point in time and God locks
  • 00:59:26
    the door and then there's 144,000 who do
  • 00:59:29
    they preach
  • 00:59:31
    to the 144,000 are the last Christians
  • 00:59:34
    living on this Earth here's my
  • 00:59:36
    understanding of the 144,000 it starts
  • 00:59:39
    with people like us
  • 00:59:41
    today and as we share the good news with
  • 00:59:45
    others other people become a part of the
  • 00:59:47
    group and as they join the Army and they
  • 00:59:50
    start sharing other people become a part
  • 00:59:52
    of the group some of us perhaps will go
  • 00:59:55
    to sleep some of us might end up in
  • 00:59:57
    prison I don't know this is this of
  • 01:00:00
    course is understanding that a crisis
  • 01:00:02
    will arise surrounding the surrounding
  • 01:00:05
    the development of that final group of
  • 01:00:08
    Christians all of that we're not going
  • 01:00:10
    to go into that at this moment but the
  • 01:00:12
    final body of Christians is what the
  • 01:00:15
    Bible refers to as a 144,000 okay so the
  • 01:00:20
    Elijah of these last
  • 01:00:23
    days are to be
  • 01:00:26
    from among People Like Us where do we
  • 01:00:28
    get our message our message is the
  • 01:00:30
    gospel of the kingdom and
  • 01:00:34
    while originally they preached that the
  • 01:00:37
    Kingdom of Heaven is at hand I think the
  • 01:00:38
    message is the same but this time we
  • 01:00:40
    have an emphasis on the Judgment because
  • 01:00:42
    what we're talking about is the Judgment
  • 01:00:44
    of the Kingdom I think Christians need
  • 01:00:46
    to understand our Our Kingdom our
  • 01:00:50
    kingdom God
  • 01:00:52
    wants his kingdom to be on display in
  • 01:00:55
    such a way
  • 01:00:57
    that the universe will see the benefits
  • 01:01:00
    of the government of God in my next
  • 01:01:03
    presentation I will talk about this a
  • 01:01:04
    little bit more but let me just say a
  • 01:01:06
    quick
  • 01:01:08
    word as a Christian you're not a normal
  • 01:01:11
    person you're not a normal
  • 01:01:13
    person your business in this world is
  • 01:01:16
    far different from anybody else's we're
  • 01:01:20
    here to represent the king of the
  • 01:01:23
    universe we are here to show the world
  • 01:01:26
    the character of God that's our great
  • 01:01:28
    Mission the character of our God if you
  • 01:01:31
    don't want to be good for yourself you
  • 01:01:34
    should want to be good for our
  • 01:01:37
    father I'm not worried about my
  • 01:01:39
    salvation I'm safe but my goodness man
  • 01:01:43
    my father's Kingdom my father's name
  • 01:01:46
    yeah I will work for that I will be a
  • 01:01:49
    Works oriented person for my father's
  • 01:01:53
    name somehow God is going to put us in a
  • 01:01:58
    situation where his character comes
  • 01:02:00
    through in such a way that the planet
  • 01:02:02
    sits up and takes
  • 01:02:05
    notice and that is that is the kind of
  • 01:02:07
    development that we ought to be involved
  • 01:02:10
    in today you know not in the little
  • 01:02:12
    petty stupidness that the world is into
  • 01:02:14
    all kinds of nonsense and
  • 01:02:17
    rubbish we are about our father and
  • 01:02:19
    about his kingdom the kingdom of God is
  • 01:02:21
    to be Vindicated because God's character
  • 01:02:24
    is to be displayed God's government it
  • 01:02:26
    is to be seen by this planet that when
  • 01:02:29
    God lives inside of people they become
  • 01:02:31
    the best people that the world has ever
  • 01:02:38
    seen the benefit is that it says in
  • 01:02:41
    Revelation 11 that the kingdoms of this
  • 01:02:44
    world becomes the kingdoms of our God
  • 01:02:47
    and of his Christ and he shall reign
  • 01:02:49
    forever and
  • 01:02:50
    ever the
  • 01:02:52
    experience we will live with him for a
  • 01:02:54
    thousand years in the kingdom of heaven
  • 01:02:57
    and eventually that Kingdom will be set
  • 01:02:59
    up here forever and ever what comes
  • 01:03:04
    before our kingdom takes over what is
  • 01:03:07
    the prerequisite and again it's the same
  • 01:03:10
    thing brothers and sisters the king's
  • 01:03:12
    government is to be
  • 01:03:14
    judged Jesus will not obtain his kingdom
  • 01:03:18
    God will not have the whole universe
  • 01:03:20
    reconciled until the Judgment it makes
  • 01:03:23
    sense how do you put a a government in
  • 01:03:26
    place if it is not demonstr no no no how
  • 01:03:29
    do you put a government in
  • 01:03:31
    place with the freedom to exist forever
  • 01:03:34
    and ever and ever and ever unless you
  • 01:03:38
    first
  • 01:03:39
    prove this
  • 01:03:42
    government how can you give somebody
  • 01:03:44
    that Latitude to rule forever if you
  • 01:03:47
    have not tested his
  • 01:03:50
    system would you put Donald Trump as
  • 01:03:52
    president for eternity would you put
  • 01:03:55
    would you put
  • 01:03:56
    Cala Harris or Joe Biden or Barack Obama
  • 01:04:00
    as your president
  • 01:04:02
    forever even if you had bias towards any
  • 01:04:05
    of these
  • 01:04:07
    pitifully fragile human beings even if
  • 01:04:10
    you were so mistaken as to be biased
  • 01:04:12
    towards any of
  • 01:04:14
    them surely you want to give them a a
  • 01:04:17
    time to see exactly where they're going
  • 01:04:19
    before you put them there
  • 01:04:21
    forever our King is to be put on the
  • 01:04:24
    throne forever
  • 01:04:26
    because the judgment is to prove that
  • 01:04:29
    God's system of government
  • 01:04:32
    works that's what the judgment is for
  • 01:04:35
    it's not to jeopardize our Salvation
  • 01:04:37
    that you're trembling in case your name
  • 01:04:38
    is called that's not the
  • 01:04:41
    point the point is God's kingdom is to
  • 01:04:44
    be established forever because the
  • 01:04:46
    judgment will demonstrate how good it
  • 01:04:49
    has been the kind of people it
  • 01:04:52
    produces and I believe the message that
  • 01:04:55
    was hidden in the Book of
  • 01:04:56
    Daniel it was there in plain sight but
  • 01:04:59
    somehow nobody ever got the point I
  • 01:05:01
    never heard it the point is that it's
  • 01:05:04
    the Judgment of the kingdom of
  • 01:05:08
    Christ the point is that the whole issue
  • 01:05:10
    in the controversy is the Judgment of
  • 01:05:13
    our King it's not about us we were taken
  • 01:05:16
    care
  • 01:05:17
    of it's about it's about the
  • 01:05:20
    establishing of the kingdom of our
  • 01:05:23
    father and I think if Christians
  • 01:05:25
    understand this our motives will be
  • 01:05:27
    better our efforts will be more
  • 01:05:31
    energetic our our our joy in our place
  • 01:05:34
    and our purpose will be more satisfying
  • 01:05:37
    and more
  • 01:05:39
    real the kingdom the king's government
  • 01:05:42
    will be judged and man will be perfected
  • 01:05:44
    I use the word perfected advisedly
  • 01:05:46
    because it means different things to
  • 01:05:48
    different people but at the end God will
  • 01:05:50
    have a people who are what he wants us
  • 01:05:52
    to be that's what I mean by perfected
  • 01:05:54
    and that is when the kingdom of the this
  • 01:05:56
    world the kingdoms of this world will
  • 01:05:58
    become the kingdoms of our
  • 01:06:00
    God and of his
  • 01:06:03
    Christ I'm over my time I'm going to
  • 01:06:05
    stop here and I will pick up on the
  • 01:06:08
    third segment in the next section but I
  • 01:06:11
    I really hope that by the grace of our
  • 01:06:14
    father the main points I've been trying
  • 01:06:16
    to make I hope you get it if you get the
  • 01:06:19
    concept I will be happy the details you
  • 01:06:23
    know the Lord will fill in and like I
  • 01:06:24
    said if you go to okay let me give you
  • 01:06:26
    that address that I
  • 01:06:28
    promised the first two sentences the
  • 01:06:32
    first two lines are my YouTube channel
  • 01:06:35
    where I have videos dealing with this
  • 01:06:37
    subject if you look go to the playlist
  • 01:06:39
    and look for the Revelation tab you'll
  • 01:06:41
    find it the second one is also a second
  • 01:06:43
    channel for the openface fellowship we
  • 01:06:46
    also have Revelation studies there and
  • 01:06:49
    in case anybody wants to join us for
  • 01:06:52
    worship at any
  • 01:06:54
    time they the the bottom half gives you
  • 01:06:57
    the information to log into our Sabbath
  • 01:07:00
    meetings we meet at 9:30 at
  • 01:07:04
    10:30 on Sabbath morning and at 3:30 in
  • 01:07:07
    the evening that's at the moment Central
  • 01:07:12
    Time 10:30 on Sabbath morning 3:30 on
  • 01:07:17
    Sabbath
  • 01:07:18
    evenings and um central time so if you
  • 01:07:22
    if you if you would like to join our
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    fellowship you're welcome
  • 01:07:26
    now before I sit down let me stop and
  • 01:07:29
    ask what question do you have if any and
  • 01:07:33
    what objection if you have an objection
  • 01:07:34
    I would like to hear too i' be pleased
  • 01:07:37
    to know if you think I've gone overboard
  • 01:07:39
    or misrepresented or Twisted the word a
  • 01:07:41
    little bit so anything
  • 01:07:47
    anybody my dear sister go
  • 01:07:53
    ahead where
  • 01:08:05
    okay so for those who didn't hear she's
  • 01:08:06
    asking where does
  • 01:08:08
    1844 the Pioneers Ellen White's Visions
  • 01:08:12
    fit into all of this now I said
  • 01:08:14
    something earlier on that um probably I
  • 01:08:18
    I said I believe that God was working
  • 01:08:21
    with
  • 01:08:21
    the Advent movement from the beginning
  • 01:08:25
    because where did they get the doctrine
  • 01:08:27
    of the pre-advent Judgment from where
  • 01:08:30
    did they get the end time atonement from
  • 01:08:32
    and this was the Genesis of the Advent
  • 01:08:35
    movement that's where it started so I
  • 01:08:39
    really believe that you can't get away
  • 01:08:41
    from the reality that God worked with
  • 01:08:44
    that
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    movement however I also stand by what I
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    said that I believe that the movement
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    Got Hijacked diverted the the the Advent
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    movement never got away from
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    legalism we talk about 1888 we don't
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    have the time to talk about that today
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    but they never got away from legalism
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    and legalism is destructive it destroys
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    every
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    Doctrine and I believe that a lot of
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    what we have today and what people even
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    present as as righteousness by faith is
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    a distortion of the truth and I believe
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    that because of this I can't support
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    what passes today but said the adventism
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    and I don't even believe the Pioneers
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    got everything right I believe God gave
  • 01:09:29
    them the kernel that they should have
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    developed on but I think if you don't
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    get away from legalism you can't go
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    forward in in
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    understanding what God want you to
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    understand now I know your question
  • 01:09:43
    requires a very long
  • 01:09:46
    answer and maybe we can talk together
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    about it personally up here in the time
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    at my disposal I can't say more than I
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    just
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    said but um
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    you know it's a subject for a complete
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    presentation so if you would accept that
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    answer for the time being I would
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    appreciate
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    it all right
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    so I think we're going to have our
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    closing prayer thank you all for being
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    so attentive and I hope that by the
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    grace of our
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    father some of the things that are
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    worthwhile will stick in your minds and
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    in your hearts let's pray
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    our god of love of Grace of Mercy our
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    father thank you so much for being with
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    us this
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    morning and for blessing us as you have
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    done through your
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    word we know father that we are still
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    yet just like children on the seashore
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    Gathering Pebbles and there are such
  • 01:10:53
    precious gems still to be on
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    earth we thank you Father our hearts are
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    lifted up to you and we want to be a
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    part of that work that you are doing in
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    the world at this
  • 01:11:07
    time we pray that you will continue to
  • 01:11:11
    direct us that our surrender to you may
  • 01:11:13
    be
  • 01:11:14
    absolute that no Shadow may arise in our
  • 01:11:17
    hearts to Mar the beautiful work that
  • 01:11:20
    you want to
  • 01:11:21
    do thank you for blessing us now and for
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    continuing to bless us as we continue to
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    worship and to Fellowship
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    today in Jesus name we pray amen amen
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  • end times
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