Prof. Robert Lustig - 'Sugar, metabolic syndrome, and cancer'
Summary
TLDRThe presentation focuses on the significant impact of sugar, particularly fructose, on health beyond just its role in obesity. The speaker, having arrived from a cancelled sabbatical due to university closures, discusses how sugar consumption is linked to various metabolic diseases, such as diabetes and cancer. The argument highlights that while obesity is a known risk factor, the non-obese can also suffer from the same diseases due to metabolic syndrome caused by excess sugar. Sugar, mainly fructose, overwhelms the liver, leading to fat production, increased triglyceride levels, and insulin resistance, which are central to developing metabolic syndrome. This syndrome, not obesity itself, is the real issue, as evidenced by countries with high diabetes rates but low obesity levels. The discussion extends to the role of the Warburg effect, where cancer cells utilize glucose anaerobically, and how sugar might fuel cancer growth. The speaker emphasizes the need to rethink nutritional labels and the potential harm of processed foods. They underscore the need for public and clinical guidance beyond weight-based measures, advocating for significant reductions in sugar consumption for health improvements.
Takeaways
- ✈️ Speaker traveled from Paris, highlighting a personal story of commitment.
- 🧬 Focus on sugar, especially fructose, and its metabolic effects.
- 📚 Discusses deep dive into scientific evidence regarding sugar and disease.
- 📉 Sugars contribution to non-obese individuals developing metabolic syndrome.
- 🧠 Details on the Warburg effect and cancer cell metabolism.
- 🔄 Metabolic diseases linked more to dietary intake than obesity alone.
- 🧪 Study shows health improvements by reducing sugar intake, not calories.
- 🍭 Fructose and its role in insulin resistance and liver fat.
- 📈 Global sugar consumption has increased dramatically.
- 🔬 Explanation of cellular mechanisms involved in metabolic syndrome.
Timeline
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The speaker opens by thanking the audience and introduces a topic related to science, correlation, and plausibility arguments. He discusses his work with 'Eat Real,' aiming to reduce sugar intake in schools, and highlights his non-exclusive support for low-carb diets, emphasizing the importance of tailoring diets to individual needs.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
The speaker addresses the correlation between obesity and cancer, highlighting specific types of cancer linked to obesity. He challenges the notion that obesity is the sole or primary risk factor for cancer, suggesting a separate underlying pathway specifically involved, referencing international obesity data to support his point.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
He argues against the idea that obesity is the direct cause of diabetes and related diseases, presenting evidence that diabetes rates increase faster than obesity rates worldwide and that diabetes can occur in normal-weight individuals. He introduces the concept of TOFI (Thin on the Outside, Fat on the Inside) to illustrate that metabolic health issues are not always visible.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
The speaker introduces the idea that metabolic syndrome, not obesity, is the major problem. He emphasizes that many normal-weight individuals suffer from metabolic diseases, suggesting that these issues are more about exposure to certain factors rather than behavior, calling it a national health problem larger than coronavirus.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
He proposes that processed and ultra-processed foods, particularly high sugar content, are significant contributors to metabolic syndrome and related health issues. He critiques the focus on obesity while pointing to sugar consumption as a more critical factor in health problems like cancer, with various studies showing a strong correlation between processed food consumption and increased cancer risk.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
The speaker highlights historical increases in sugar consumption and the introduction of high fructose corn syrup, discussing the physiological differences between glucose and fructose metabolism. He asserts that fructose is particularly impactful on liver health, leading to fatty liver disease, which is strongly associated with metabolic syndrome.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Detailed explanation of how fructose affects liver metabolism is provided, illustrating the pathway shifts leading to liver fat accumulation and insulin resistance. The speaker shares findings from a study on children that demonstrated metabolic improvements when sugar was reduced, even with caloric intake held constant, highlighting fructose's role in driving these liver changes.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
He explains the concept of fatty liver disease as an indicator of metabolic syndrome, sharing research showing that liver fat, not total body fat or even visceral fat, is a better predictor of metabolic health issues. This supports his argument that sugar, specifically fructose, is central to these chronic health problems rather than overall caloric intake.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
The speaker elaborates on the process of protein glycation, the Maillard reaction, and its implications for health, particularly in generating reactive oxygen species and contributing to cellular damage. This further supports his argument on the detrimental metabolic effects of sugar, especially fructose, beyond simple calorie consumption.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
He briefly explores the connection between sugar intake and cancer, referencing the Warburg effect and metabolic pathways in cancer cells that thrive on glucose for energy rather than cellular respiration. He suggests that controlling sugar intake could potentially impact cancer growth and development, referencing ongoing research on ketogenic diets for cancer treatment.
- 00:50:00 - 00:57:42
In conclusion, the speaker summarizes the evidence linking sugar to metabolic syndrome and cancer, emphasizing the unique, harmful effects of fructose. He advocates for reducing sugar consumption and challenges current nutritional practices in cancer treatment, suggesting alternative approaches may be more beneficial, and thanks collaborators and institutions involved in the research.
Mind Map
Video Q&A
What is the main argument of the presentation?
The main argument is that sugar, especially fructose, is a significant factor in metabolic diseases like diabetes and cancer, beyond just causing obesity.
Why is fructose considered more harmful than glucose?
Fructose is more harmful because it is primarily metabolized in the liver, leading to fat production and liver fat, contributing to diseases like diabetes and fatty liver disease.
Is there a correlation between sugar consumption and cancer?
Yes, studies show a correlation between sugar consumption and certain types of cancer, suggesting sugar may promote cancer cell growth.
What are some key takeaways about metabolic syndrome?
Fructose consumption leads to liver fat and insulin resistance, driving metabolic syndrome, which is a precursor to many chronic diseases.
How does sugar consumption affect non-obese individuals?
Even non-obese individuals can develop metabolic diseases due to sugar-induced insulin resistance and liver fat accumulation.
What is the Warburg effect mentioned in the presentation?
The Warburg effect refers to the observation that cancer cells metabolize glucose anaerobically, relying on glycolysis instead of oxidative phosphorylation.
What dietary changes were tested in the study mentioned?
The study tested reducing sugar intake and replacing it with starch, resulting in improved metabolic health indicators without weight loss.
What is the role of processed foods in the discussed health issues?
Processed foods, high in sugar, contribute significantly to health issues like obesity and metabolic syndrome, more than certain other calorie sources.
What is the difference between fructose and glucose metabolism?
Glucose can be stored as glycogen and is less likely to be turned into fat, while fructose is converted to fat in the liver, increasing health risks.
How does the body respond to sugar intake in terms of antioxidant use?
Consuming fructose increases reactive oxygen species production, requiring more antioxidants for quenching, which can deplete antioxidant reserves.
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- 00:00:01[Music]
- 00:00:20thank you so much Victoria thank Jeff
- 00:00:23and rod for sticking it out my gosh and
- 00:00:27thank all of you for making it thank me
- 00:00:31for making it because because I I flew
- 00:00:36in from Paris long story I was on a
- 00:00:41Fulbright I was actually doing a
- 00:00:42sabbatical it's been cancelled because
- 00:00:44the university's been closed so anyway
- 00:00:46Here I am so I'm going to talk to you
- 00:00:49today about something a little bit
- 00:00:52different but not totally and as you
- 00:00:55know I believe in the science and I
- 00:00:58always talk about correlation and
- 00:01:00causation well today I'm going to talk
- 00:01:01about correlation and also a
- 00:01:03plausibility argument and this is the
- 00:01:06first venue that I've presented this
- 00:01:09argument so I'm actually going to be
- 00:01:11interested in your feedback as to
- 00:01:12whether or not you think this makes
- 00:01:14sense so be cognizant of the fact that
- 00:01:18your guinea pigs to some extent but it's
- 00:01:21a friendly audience on the other hand if
- 00:01:23you don't like it I'm sure there are a
- 00:01:25lot of eggs in the room so because it is
- 00:01:27low-carb so you know hold them to
- 00:01:30yourself okay no we can so first of all
- 00:01:33I do have these disclosures I did write
- 00:01:35these two books for the general public
- 00:01:36and I am also the chief science officer
- 00:01:39of a non-profit in San Francisco called
- 00:01:42eat real because we believe in real food
- 00:01:45we are bringing real food to schools we
- 00:01:48have gotten rid of 270,000 pounds of
- 00:01:51sugar from the Mount Diablo Unified
- 00:01:53School District in one year ten pounds
- 00:01:55of sugar per year per child per year and
- 00:01:59we can do that for your school district
- 00:02:01too and we'll need to and you'll see why
- 00:02:05in addition I have another disclosure
- 00:02:07and that is that I am not really
- 00:02:09specifically exclusively low-carb I
- 00:02:13support low-carb I used low-carb in my
- 00:02:15practice for the right patient but I
- 00:02:18also used low-fat when necessary for the
- 00:02:21right patient okay the point is knowing
- 00:02:24who those patients are and that takes a
- 00:02:27little bit of science and or
- 00:02:29work and the little medicine so let's
- 00:02:33jump in I'm talking about sugar today
- 00:02:35and cancer so first of all everybody
- 00:02:38thinks it's about obesity well there's
- 00:02:41no question that obesity is a risk
- 00:02:42factor for cancer and it's about a
- 00:02:45hazard risk ratio of about 1.5 so about
- 00:02:4850% increased risk of developing cancer
- 00:02:51these are different studies that look at
- 00:02:53that
- 00:02:53but when you look at the specific
- 00:02:55cancers that seem to be associated with
- 00:02:58obesity prostate colon lymphoma
- 00:03:01esophagus stomach liver pancreas kidney
- 00:03:03leukemia they are endodermal origin they
- 00:03:07are not of misa dermal or ectodermal
- 00:03:09origin so they are not bone they are not
- 00:03:12muscle they are not fat cancers and from
- 00:03:16ectodermal they're not a skin and they
- 00:03:19are not CNS they're endodermal cancers
- 00:03:21and that actually suggests that there's
- 00:03:23some specific pathway involved if you
- 00:03:27look at the International Agency for
- 00:03:28research on cancer here's the list and
- 00:03:30again it holds up based on international
- 00:03:35data that these cancers are specifically
- 00:03:39related to obesity now the question is
- 00:03:41why
- 00:03:42well obesity could predisposed to cancer
- 00:03:44for several reasons one out of host
- 00:03:46issue could be a storehouse for toxins
- 00:03:48because most of them are nonpolar
- 00:03:52for instance benzene and other specific
- 00:03:57carcinogens like for instance things
- 00:03:59that you find in meat after you've
- 00:04:01grilled it in terms of methyl science
- 00:04:03etcetera could be due to increased
- 00:04:06estrogen synthesis because adipose
- 00:04:08tissue has higher Matei so there's an
- 00:04:09increase in estrogen load could be due
- 00:04:12to oxidative stress and reactive oxygen
- 00:04:13species due to metabolic syndrome as
- 00:04:16we'll talk about or could be due to
- 00:04:17hyperinsulinemia as Jeff talked about or
- 00:04:21igf-1 which is higher in kit and cancer
- 00:04:24and specifically free igf-1 and lower
- 00:04:27IGF binding protein one which is insulin
- 00:04:30regulated negatively so the higher the
- 00:04:32insulin the lower the IGF bp1 the higher
- 00:04:35the free igf-1 and the greater risk for
- 00:04:38cancer because after all these are all
- 00:04:40growth factors so
- 00:04:42knowing that the American Society of
- 00:04:45Clinical Oncology ASCO this is what they
- 00:04:48put out in 2014 they said yeah we know
- 00:04:52that there's a relationship between
- 00:04:53obesity and cancer so we need education
- 00:04:55and awareness clinical guidance tools
- 00:04:56and resources research promotion policy
- 00:04:58and advocacy oh yeah sure sure
- 00:05:00blah blah blah yada yada yada and weight
- 00:05:03management too in cancer survivors
- 00:05:05that's it that's what they said okay so
- 00:05:09first of all how well you think that
- 00:05:11works second of all don't we need weight
- 00:05:13management and everybody to prevent the
- 00:05:16cancer just the survivors I mean like
- 00:05:19how dumb is this but that's where we are
- 00:05:21so they would say to you well obesity is
- 00:05:23the problem I'm not so sure that that's
- 00:05:25true and here's three reasons why number
- 00:05:29one here is a scattergram of all of the
- 00:05:33countries in the world obesity
- 00:05:34prevalence on the x-axis diabetes
- 00:05:36prevalence on the y-axis and you would
- 00:05:39look at this scatter gram and you would
- 00:05:40say well very clearly dr. Lustig there
- 00:05:42is a correlation and here it is and
- 00:05:44there is I don't know argue that but you
- 00:05:46know correlation is not the same thing
- 00:05:47as concordance because there are
- 00:05:50countries that are obese without being
- 00:05:52diabetic such as Iceland Mongolia
- 00:05:54Micronesia and there countries that are
- 00:05:57diabetic without being obese such as
- 00:05:58India Pakistan and China India and China
- 00:06:01today have an 11 percent diabetes rate
- 00:06:03and they're not fat we are the fattest
- 00:06:06nation on earth and we have a nine point
- 00:06:08four percent diabetes rate if obesity is
- 00:06:11the cause of diabetes the obesity is the
- 00:06:13cause of metabolic syndrome obesity is
- 00:06:15the cause of cancer then how do you
- 00:06:17explain that well the fact is you can't
- 00:06:20because it's not true
- 00:06:22in addition problem number two obesity
- 00:06:25is increasing worldwide at the rate of
- 00:06:27two point seven eight percent per year
- 00:06:29amortized over the last 40 years yet
- 00:06:32diabetes is increasing worldwide at the
- 00:06:34rate of four point zero seven percent
- 00:06:36per year amortized for the same period
- 00:06:39of time if diabetes is just a subset of
- 00:06:42the larger group of obese individuals
- 00:06:45then how come it's going up faster
- 00:06:49problem number two problem number three
- 00:06:52here are the secular trends in
- 00:06:54biddies race again diabetes being the
- 00:06:56sentinel disease of metabolic syndrome
- 00:06:58in the entire united states and on the
- 00:07:02left side you can see the total numbers
- 00:07:04in the black on the right we have them
- 00:07:07stratified by weight category obese atop
- 00:07:11and you can see there's been a 25%
- 00:07:13increase in incidents per year
- 00:07:14amongst the obese true those also been a
- 00:07:1725% increase in the normal weight
- 00:07:20population as well
- 00:07:21if diabetes is just a manifestation of
- 00:07:24obesity then how come the normal weight
- 00:07:26people are getting diabetes just as fast
- 00:07:30problem number three so here's the most
- 00:07:33important thing as many of you have seen
- 00:07:35this set of slides before but it's the
- 00:07:37most important thing to explain and Jeff
- 00:07:40actually had several slides to this
- 00:07:42point as well this is a Venn diagram of
- 00:07:44the entire United States population 240
- 00:07:47million 30% obese BMI over 30 70 %
- 00:07:52normal weight BMI under 30 now the
- 00:07:55standard mantra from the doctors and the
- 00:07:58dietitians and the Institute of Medicine
- 00:08:01and the Surgeon General and the National
- 00:08:02Institutes of Health and the White House
- 00:08:04and Congress out in the food industry is
- 00:08:06the following 80% of those obese
- 00:08:11individuals 80% of those 30% those 57
- 00:08:15million people they're sick they're fat
- 00:08:21and they're sick and they're sick
- 00:08:23because they're fat and if they would
- 00:08:25only just diet and exercise we'd solve
- 00:08:27this problem that's what they say
- 00:08:29garbage total complete trash anybody
- 00:08:33know why it's on the slide well it is
- 00:08:38true and Jeff's mentioned it in his talk
- 00:08:40it is true that 80% of 30% are
- 00:08:43metabolically oh I don't argue that that
- 00:08:45is absolutely true but that means 20% of
- 00:08:4730% or not they are metabolically
- 00:08:49healthy we have a name for them mhm Oh
- 00:08:52metabolically healthy obese that will
- 00:08:56live a completely normal life diet a
- 00:08:57completely normal age not cost the
- 00:08:59taxpayer a dime they even have normal
- 00:09:02length telomeres the ends of the
- 00:09:07chromosomes that determine
- 00:09:08how fast your cell dies and if
- 00:09:09determines how fast you die they are not
- 00:09:12bothering anybody they're just fat
- 00:09:15conversely and this is the important
- 00:09:17part 40% of the normal weight population
- 00:09:21have the exact same diseases as devii
- 00:09:24obese normal weight people get type 2
- 00:09:26diabetes hypertension lipid problems
- 00:09:27cardiovascular disease cancer and
- 00:09:29dementia - they get it at a lower weight
- 00:09:34true but if they get it how can it be
- 00:09:39about behavior this actually looks more
- 00:09:42like exposure this more it looks more
- 00:09:45like what influenza does or cholera or
- 00:09:47for that matter coronavirus okay so this
- 00:09:53can't be about behavior this is about
- 00:09:55some exposure that everyone including
- 00:09:57the normal weight people are exposed to
- 00:09:59and if you do the math turns out there
- 00:10:03are more thin sick people 67 million
- 00:10:06than there arc that's sick people 57
- 00:10:09million but the thin sick people are
- 00:10:11calling the fat sick people the problem
- 00:10:13and when you do the math on all of them
- 00:10:16that's more than half the u.s.
- 00:10:18population and I guarantee you no matter
- 00:10:20how bad coronavirus gets it will not be
- 00:10:23half the u.s. population so this is a
- 00:10:27bigger problem even than coronavirus but
- 00:10:30that is now a national emergency this is
- 00:10:32not figure and I can prove it to you and
- 00:10:37Jeff mentioned it as well okay so here
- 00:10:39are two equally weighted people okay CT
- 00:10:43scans through the abdomen of two equally
- 00:10:45weighted people ones healthy one sick
- 00:10:47which ones sick a or b b b is sick
- 00:10:50because a he's got metabolically healthy
- 00:10:54obesity he's got big love handles he's
- 00:10:57got subcutaneous or big butt fat B he's
- 00:11:02got fat all around his organs he's got
- 00:11:04intra-abdominal fat he's got visceral
- 00:11:06fat he's got big belly fat and we have a
- 00:11:08name for this it's called as Jeff said
- 00:11:11tophi tof i thin on the outside fat on
- 00:11:14the inside real medical term 1500
- 00:11:16MEDLINE citations go look it up so my
- 00:11:20question to you sitting here
- 00:11:22right now are you at OFI how would you
- 00:11:27know how could you know does your doctor
- 00:11:29know if your NOC doctor knows how come
- 00:11:31the doctors not telling you and if your
- 00:11:33doctor did now what would they do about
- 00:11:34it anyway these are the issues fact
- 00:11:37matter is you guys are using low-carb
- 00:11:39for those people which is a good idea
- 00:11:41and I'm not against it I'm for it and
- 00:11:44I'm supportive oh okay but I think that
- 00:11:47that may be not necessary for some of
- 00:11:50the patients I think that we can do
- 00:11:52something a little less extreme and help
- 00:11:55just as many people so that's the issue
- 00:11:58so what I'm arguing is obesity is not
- 00:12:02the problem obesity is a marker for the
- 00:12:04problem metabolic syndrome is the
- 00:12:06problem that's where the money goes
- 00:12:08seventy-five percent of all health care
- 00:12:09dollars and here are the diseases
- 00:12:11diabetes is the Sentinel disease but
- 00:12:14cancers on the list and I will show you
- 00:12:17how and why so if it's not calories and
- 00:12:22it's not obesity then it's I guess the
- 00:12:24type of calories and as you've heard
- 00:12:26already all calories are not the same so
- 00:12:29if you look at this monograph that came
- 00:12:31out from ASCO many years ago we know
- 00:12:35that dietary components do have some
- 00:12:38relevance to cancer promotion dietary
- 00:12:41fat can increase colon mammary
- 00:12:44pancreatic cancer dietary protein can
- 00:12:46increase colon and mammary cancer
- 00:12:47dietary starch can increase will variant
- 00:12:49prostate cancer and dietary fiber will
- 00:12:52prevent colon cancer and I would argue
- 00:12:54with Michael he's and I already did
- 00:12:56that fiber does have a value he said
- 00:12:59there it had no value I would argue it
- 00:13:02has a very real value it is not food for
- 00:13:05you
- 00:13:05it is food for your bacteria it is food
- 00:13:09for your microbiome and if you don't
- 00:13:11feed your microbiome guess what your
- 00:13:12microbiome will feed on you which is not
- 00:13:15so good and I am actually writing a
- 00:13:18whole book about this whole issue right
- 00:13:20now we can talk about it at the Q&A if
- 00:13:22you want so the ASCO position doesn't
- 00:13:26even mention dietary composition it just
- 00:13:28mentioned weight loss even though they
- 00:13:31put this monograph out
- 00:13:32well turns out it depends on what the
- 00:13:35food is as you can imagine so ultra
- 00:13:38processed food is now more than half of
- 00:13:41the UK diet it is 62% of the American
- 00:13:45diet ultra processed food ok that is
- 00:13:47food that is basically been stripped of
- 00:13:49its matrix and conglomerated into new
- 00:13:51shapes and sizes and if you look at what
- 00:13:54is ultra processed food okay in the
- 00:13:57lower-left pretty much three quarters of
- 00:14:01it is sugar that's what that is the
- 00:14:03marker for ultra processed food and the
- 00:14:06reason is because if you didn't put
- 00:14:07sugar in it it would taste like it
- 00:14:12is the marker for processed food because
- 00:14:13that's the only way they can get you to
- 00:14:15eat it because sugar is addictive so if
- 00:14:17they could put cocaine though food they
- 00:14:19would but they can't so they do this
- 00:14:21instead and you can see that in terms of
- 00:14:25the quartiles of ultra processed food
- 00:14:28consumption the highest quartile has the
- 00:14:30most significant increased in cancer
- 00:14:32rates and every 10% increase in
- 00:14:34processed food increases your cancer
- 00:14:35risk by 12% so here's what our sugar
- 00:14:39consumption has done over the last 200
- 00:14:42years our ancestors getting fruits and
- 00:14:44vegetables out of the ground with the
- 00:14:45occasional honey consumed about 4 pounds
- 00:14:47of sugar per year fine no problem easy
- 00:14:52with the advent of the pot still and
- 00:14:56distillation and crystallization and CNH
- 00:14:59and Domino and hoe Texas and Hawaii and
- 00:15:02Louisiana
- 00:15:02we increased our sugar production and
- 00:15:05our sugar consumption till we stabilized
- 00:15:08when price equals demand before World
- 00:15:09War two there's the rationing of World
- 00:15:11War two came up to the same level and
- 00:15:13then of course we had many things happen
- 00:15:15in the 60s we had the high fructose corn
- 00:15:18syrup enter our world we had the dietary
- 00:15:21guidelines and we had hurricane Allen
- 00:15:23which destroyed the sugar crop and so
- 00:15:25high fructose corn syrup came in to take
- 00:15:27its place because it was a natural
- 00:15:29product ok so all these things happen
- 00:15:32you know basically substituted sugar for
- 00:15:34fat as you've all heard a zillion times
- 00:15:36ok so we have increased our consumption
- 00:15:39of sugar by 25 fold not 4 pounds per
- 00:15:42year 100 pounds per year and it is that
- 00:15:45change
- 00:15:46okay that people don't talk about here's
- 00:15:48everyone talking about 40% fat and 30%
- 00:15:51carbohydrate know that okay just look at
- 00:15:53the sugar okay it's insane
- 00:15:56so what are we talking about we're
- 00:15:58talking about two molecules glucose and
- 00:16:00fructose so on top is high fructose corn
- 00:16:03syrup on bottom is sucrose table sugar
- 00:16:05cane sugar beet sugar the stuff you put
- 00:16:07in your coffee glucose is a six membered
- 00:16:10ring notice six membered fructose is a
- 00:16:13five membered ring they are not the same
- 00:16:15they're not handled the same by the body
- 00:16:17and I will show you how in a moment
- 00:16:20now sucrose you'll notice six membered
- 00:16:22ring five membered ring Oh glycosidic
- 00:16:24linkage linking the two the enzyme
- 00:16:26sucrose in your intestine Cleaves this
- 00:16:28in a nanosecond you absorb the two
- 00:16:30moieties separately but ultimately what
- 00:16:33ends up in your portal vein which hits
- 00:16:35your liver exactly the same so it
- 00:16:37doesn't matter whether it's high
- 00:16:39fructose corn syrup or sucrose and the
- 00:16:40data say that high fructose corn syrup
- 00:16:42and sucrose are virtually identical yeah
- 00:16:44they're virtually identically bad
- 00:16:46they're equally dangerous they're
- 00:16:49equally toxic and I use that word very
- 00:16:52specifically because it is not dependent
- 00:16:55on calories or obesity and we have
- 00:16:58causation so I'm very comfortable with
- 00:17:01the word toxicity toxic and it is the
- 00:17:04fructose moiety that is specifically
- 00:17:06toxic so is sugar public enemy number
- 00:17:09one
- 00:17:10trans fats used to be but we know that
- 00:17:12and they're coming out of the diet so
- 00:17:14sugar now is the one that the food
- 00:17:18industry adds specifically to get you to
- 00:17:20buy more so yes it is public enemy
- 00:17:22number one so let's talk about sugar and
- 00:17:24disease start with obesity now the food
- 00:17:28industry will tell you that yeah sugar
- 00:17:30causes obesity but it's not very very
- 00:17:33significant in fact the data suggests
- 00:17:36only ten percent of weight gain is
- 00:17:38related to sugar and that's seen on this
- 00:17:41slide BMI of about 0.8 BMI points you
- 00:17:45see the diamonds it's passed the
- 00:17:47identity line so it's significant but
- 00:17:50it's only ten percent you know there are
- 00:17:52things that are much worse in terms of
- 00:17:54weight gain and that's true actually
- 00:17:56there are things that are worse in terms
- 00:17:57of weight gain but they tell you that
- 00:17:59sugars and
- 00:17:59related to obesity because of this they
- 00:18:04also throw this out and this is got to
- 00:18:07be debunked and I'm doing it right now
- 00:18:09so if you look at this slide you'll
- 00:18:12notice from 2000 to 2020 we are sugar
- 00:18:16consumptions actually gone down which is
- 00:18:18true it's gone down by about 10 percent
- 00:18:19because they obesity epidemic because
- 00:18:21people are trying to cut back true so
- 00:18:24we've gone from a hundred pounds down to
- 00:18:25about ninety pounds it's true in the
- 00:18:28meantime obesity rates continue to
- 00:18:30escalate so they're saying how could it
- 00:18:32possibly be sugar because after all
- 00:18:34sugar is going down obesity is going up
- 00:18:35and so they use this as an argument
- 00:18:38against regulation and against
- 00:18:41culpability for their product is this
- 00:18:44true well this was a hard one to deal
- 00:18:48with until just this past year in fact
- 00:18:52just this past month when it finally
- 00:18:53came out I actually reviewed this
- 00:18:55article a group at UT Knoxville actually
- 00:18:58did a little calculus and they actually
- 00:19:00remodeled it based on the state of
- 00:19:03Wisconsin and you can see the data here
- 00:19:04they had 46 calendar years and
- 00:19:07seventy-five different life ages that
- 00:19:09they examine separately and what they
- 00:19:11did was they applied a mathematical
- 00:19:13function that did not just look at
- 00:19:15today's sugar consumption it looked at
- 00:19:17last year's sugar consumption as well
- 00:19:19and by doing that and you can see that
- 00:19:22on the lower left corner how they did
- 00:19:25that okay they developed a new model and
- 00:19:27the model now approximates the data
- 00:19:29almost identically so this is a
- 00:19:33complicated function but nonetheless a
- 00:19:36real function in terms of the cumulative
- 00:19:40effect of sugar probably due to its
- 00:19:43effect on adipocyte growth and adver
- 00:19:47genesis now it is true that there are
- 00:19:51other things that cause weight gain that
- 00:19:52is true potato chips and french fries
- 00:19:54numbers one and two i don't argue that
- 00:19:56sugar comes in third there's you know
- 00:19:59sweets and desserts and sugar sweetened
- 00:20:01beverages you add them together they
- 00:20:02come in third so yeah there are a lot of
- 00:20:04things that cause weight gain sugar only
- 00:20:06being one of them this is very
- 00:20:08interesting this is a group from UC
- 00:20:11Davis Roberto Diwali what they do
- 00:20:13they collected the cash register
- 00:20:15receipts from all of the fast-food
- 00:20:18restaurants in all 37 oacd developed
- 00:20:23countries for 20 years
- 00:20:25how's that okay and ask the question
- 00:20:30does fast food consumption predict
- 00:20:33weight gain and the answer is clearly it
- 00:20:35does there it is right there okay and
- 00:20:37this is a baseline to you know 20 years
- 00:20:41later so this is a predictive of
- 00:20:42prospective correlation so then they ask
- 00:20:44the question okay
- 00:20:45fast food predicts weight gain what
- 00:20:49about fast food predicts weight gain and
- 00:20:51so they had to model they had to do a
- 00:20:54multivariate linear regression analysis
- 00:20:56to ask which of the components was it
- 00:20:58the hamburger or was it the french fries
- 00:21:01or was it the soft drinks that was the
- 00:21:06question and it turned out it was all
- 00:21:07the soft drinks it wasn't the hamburger
- 00:21:10it wasn't the French fries I actually
- 00:21:12have to tell you I was a little
- 00:21:13surprised okay
- 00:21:15and when they did all the rest of the
- 00:21:17modeling that didn't change the effect
- 00:21:19of the soft drinks so basically the soft
- 00:21:22drinks are the driver of the fast foods
- 00:21:24effect on obesity now the problem is
- 00:21:27that the soft drink companies don't like
- 00:21:30that they don't want you to know that
- 00:21:34and so they've published their own data
- 00:21:37and so this was a meta-analysis that was
- 00:21:41done in 2013 where they looked at 18
- 00:21:45separate data points and asked the
- 00:21:48question
- 00:21:48duh do sugar beverages predict weight
- 00:21:51gain if the food industry sponsored the
- 00:21:55study five out of six said no effect of
- 00:21:58sugar beverages on waking if the studies
- 00:22:01were independently funded 10 out of 12
- 00:22:04said yes effective sugar I'm waking so
- 00:22:07you can see that corporate sponsorship
- 00:22:09had something to do with the outcome and
- 00:22:12this was nailed down even more by my
- 00:22:14colleague at UCSF Dean Schillinger in
- 00:22:16annals of internal medicine because he
- 00:22:18had 60 data points okay and you can see
- 00:22:21that there were 26 that were food
- 00:22:23industry-sponsored 26 out of 26
- 00:22:26no effect of sugar on diabetes or
- 00:22:28obesity whereas of the 34 that were
- 00:22:32independently funded 33 out of 34 said
- 00:22:35yes effective sugar on OBC herbs
- 00:22:37diabetes so bottom line the literature
- 00:22:41is polluted its polluted and it's
- 00:22:44polluted on purpose
- 00:22:46because then they can go back and save
- 00:22:48see it's inconclusive which is what
- 00:22:50they've been doing for the last 50 years
- 00:22:53okay sugar and diabetes forget sugar and
- 00:22:57weight gain sugar and diabetes let's
- 00:22:59talk about the real disease let's talk
- 00:23:01about metabolic syndrome so I'm going to
- 00:23:03present to you plausibility mechanism
- 00:23:05correlation and causation 'el studies so
- 00:23:08this is what you learned in med school
- 00:23:11you get fat the fat cell is the problem
- 00:23:17you get fat and because you get fat the
- 00:23:22fat drives cytokines TNF alpha il-6
- 00:23:25which go via the portal vein to the
- 00:23:27liver the liver responds to those by
- 00:23:29becoming insulin resistant increasing
- 00:23:32hepatic glucose output hgo which thereby
- 00:23:34increases blood sugar which they're
- 00:23:37caused by causes the islet cells to have
- 00:23:39to make more insulin which then drives
- 00:23:41more energy into fat and so you end up
- 00:23:43with this vicious cycle but it starts
- 00:23:45with the fat it's the adipose centric
- 00:23:48view of metabolic syndrome and then the
- 00:23:51muscles along for the ride this is what
- 00:23:53they teach in medical school the
- 00:23:56question is is it true yes or no
- 00:24:03we'll talk about it so what I'm going to
- 00:24:07say to you is it is true for about 10%
- 00:24:10of the population for about 50% of the
- 00:24:14population there's a different
- 00:24:15explanation which has been buried and
- 00:24:18I'm gonna explain that one to you a
- 00:24:20little bit differently it starts with
- 00:24:23the liver not with the fat okay because
- 00:24:26the liver gets insulin resistant and how
- 00:24:27so on the Left we have normal liver
- 00:24:30sinusoids mild canaliculi cooked for
- 00:24:33cells all good and on the right we have
- 00:24:35fatty liver disease and you can see the
- 00:24:39fat vacuoles you can see the macrophages
- 00:24:41you can see the beginning of scarring
- 00:24:42and fibrosis the question is what caused
- 00:24:45it prior to 1980 if you saw this under
- 00:24:48the microscope bingo it's alcohol
- 00:24:50but now five-year-olds get this and they
- 00:24:55don't drink alcohol it turns out sugar
- 00:24:59does the exact same thing and the reason
- 00:25:00is because sugar and alcohol are handled
- 00:25:03by the liver virtually identically
- 00:25:06that's why kids are getting the diseases
- 00:25:09of alcohol without alcohol because
- 00:25:12fructose and ethanol are handled by the
- 00:25:14liver virtually identically and it makes
- 00:25:16sense that that would be the case
- 00:25:17because after all where do you get
- 00:25:18alcohol from fermentation of sugar it's
- 00:25:21called wine we do it in Napa and Sonoma
- 00:25:23every day not during coronavirus but
- 00:25:25otherwise yeah all the time so the big
- 00:25:28difference between fructose and alcohol
- 00:25:30is that for fructose that for alcohol
- 00:25:32the yeast does the glycolysis the first
- 00:25:35step for for fructose we do our own
- 00:25:39first step but after that the
- 00:25:40mitochondria of the liver have to handle
- 00:25:43it virtually the same way and this is
- 00:25:45mitochondrial overload from whatever the
- 00:25:48substrate is that caused the overload it
- 00:25:51could also be branched chain amino acids
- 00:25:53by the way from corn-fed beef also
- 00:25:57causes this so all you lo carvers keep
- 00:26:00that in mind so here is a fat fraction
- 00:26:05map from an MH Oh metabolically healthy
- 00:26:09obese notice the love handles on the
- 00:26:11sides okay but take a look at this guy's
- 00:26:13liver dark
- 00:26:142.6 percent fat this is mah oh this guy
- 00:26:18will outlive you
- 00:26:20now take a look at this guy in the
- 00:26:22center this is more like what you'd see
- 00:26:25okay
- 00:26:25notice the obesity but take a look at
- 00:26:27this guy's liver 24% liver fat
- 00:26:29this guy's got non-alcoholic fatty liver
- 00:26:31disease this guy's got metabolic
- 00:26:33syndrome now take a look at this guy
- 00:26:36is he fat no love handles
- 00:26:39take a look at his liver 23% liver fat
- 00:26:42this guy is thin but he's got the same
- 00:26:47diseases as the guy in the center fin
- 00:26:50sick fat sick fat healthy so you cannot
- 00:26:56tell from the outside what's going on on
- 00:26:59the inside because it's the fat you
- 00:27:02can't see that makes the difference and
- 00:27:05the fat you can't see is in your liver
- 00:27:08and how did it get there that's the
- 00:27:13point and it didn't get there from the
- 00:27:16grass-fed beef but it could have gotten
- 00:27:19there from the corner fed beef but it
- 00:27:22most assuredly got there from the sugar
- 00:27:26Naf old is the liver manifestation of
- 00:27:29metabolic syndrome and it correlates
- 00:27:31with all the other manifestations of
- 00:27:33metabolic syndrome so large waist high
- 00:27:35glucose low HDL high triglycerides high
- 00:27:37blood pressure all the things you've
- 00:27:38heard about in both adults on top and in
- 00:27:40children on the bottom fatty liver
- 00:27:43disease is liver metabolic syndrome it
- 00:27:48is 45% of Latinos and that's one of the
- 00:27:51reasons why Latinos are so predisposed
- 00:27:53to getting diabetes because they have
- 00:27:54get fatty liver faster because they have
- 00:27:57two polymorphisms that drive liver fat
- 00:27:59faster than it does in Caucasians
- 00:28:02african-americans however are protected
- 00:28:04from fatty liver disease they are much
- 00:28:07more likely to export the fat out of
- 00:28:10their liver to take up residence in the
- 00:28:12peripheral adipose tissue which is why
- 00:28:14they increase their sub-q fat so that's
- 00:28:17why they have more obesity why they have
- 00:28:19a higher BMI before they get sick now
- 00:28:22about one out of 20 people with liver
- 00:28:25fat will go on to develop
- 00:28:26steatohepatitis
- 00:28:27that is fatty liver plus inflammation
- 00:28:30and of those 25% will develop cirrhosis
- 00:28:32and will die of their disease if they
- 00:28:34don't get over transplant now this is
- 00:28:37probably the other most important slide
- 00:28:39I'm going to show you so the question is
- 00:28:41which fat causes the disease we all
- 00:28:48assumed it was just how fat you were
- 00:28:50know then we assumed okay it's all the
- 00:28:53belly fat the visceral fat this was the
- 00:28:57first study that said no it's the liver
- 00:28:58fat so this was work from Sam Klein's
- 00:29:01group at Washu st. Louis and what they
- 00:29:03did was they when they finally got a
- 00:29:05three tesla scanner because you need a
- 00:29:07big scanner to be able to look at liver
- 00:29:09fat and it took a while what they did
- 00:29:12was they put a whole bunch of fat people
- 00:29:13in a scanner and they measured visceral
- 00:29:15fat versus liver fat and what they
- 00:29:18showed in this study was that when they
- 00:29:19held the liver fat constant the visceral
- 00:29:21fat explained none of the effect on
- 00:29:24insulin resistance whereas when they
- 00:29:27held the visceral fat constant the liver
- 00:29:29fat explained all of the difference in
- 00:29:31insulin resistance it's the liver fat
- 00:29:34that makes the difference not the
- 00:29:36visceral not the subcutaneous it's the
- 00:29:39liver fat and 45 percent of adults in
- 00:29:43the United States now have fatty liver
- 00:29:46disease you want to talk about epidemics
- 00:29:48that's the epidemic okay I guarantee a
- 00:29:51corona virus will not reach 45% now the
- 00:29:55question is where that fat come from
- 00:29:57that liver fat and that's in the right
- 00:29:59picture and you'll notice in the gray
- 00:30:03non-systemic fatty acids non-systemic
- 00:30:08now we know where systemic fatty acids
- 00:30:11come from they come from adipose tissue
- 00:30:13lipolysis or from diet but this is non
- 00:30:17systemic where do those come from the
- 00:30:21fat made right in the liver through a
- 00:30:24process called de novo lipogenesis dnl
- 00:30:28new fat making this is what your liver
- 00:30:32does to sugar to get it out of the liver
- 00:30:35it turns it into fat and then exports it
- 00:30:39out in VLDL
- 00:30:41which we measure in the serum
- 00:30:43triglyceride okay so here's how the
- 00:30:47liver handles glucose glucose comes in
- 00:30:50and first of all only 20% of a glucose
- 00:30:52bolus actually hits the liver because
- 00:30:53the other 80% is metabolized by the rest
- 00:30:55of the body and pretty much all the
- 00:30:57glucose ends up as glycogen liver starch
- 00:31:00non-toxic non-dangerous is what your
- 00:31:02liver wants to do with excess glucose
- 00:31:04that's why marathoners carb-load is to
- 00:31:07increase their hepatic glycogen stores
- 00:31:10okay now can glucose get turned into fat
- 00:31:14in the liver yeah but you've got to
- 00:31:16really work at it okay so you know
- 00:31:18there's not going to be very much
- 00:31:19pyruvate reaching the mitochondria and
- 00:31:21so there's you know that it's regulated
- 00:31:23because insulin is going to keep the
- 00:31:24pyruvate at the right level for the
- 00:31:27mitochondrial carboxylic acids Vmax so
- 00:31:32you're not going to end up overwhelming
- 00:31:34your mitochondria with glucose okay you
- 00:31:37might end up gaining weight with glucose
- 00:31:39but you're not going to overwhelm your
- 00:31:41mitochondria with glucose right now a
- 00:31:43little bit of it might end up as citrate
- 00:31:45and then the citrate will get thrown off
- 00:31:47via the citrate shuttle exit the
- 00:31:48mitochondria and then that citrate will
- 00:31:50act as the substrate for these three
- 00:31:52enzymes that you can see there a CL ATP
- 00:31:56citrate lyase AC C sto a carboxylase one
- 00:31:59and FAS fatty acid synthase and those
- 00:32:01build citrate into fatty acyl Co a fatty
- 00:32:06acids which then get hooked onto a
- 00:32:11triglycerol backbone to form a
- 00:32:14triglyceride which then get packaged
- 00:32:17with a PO B with phosphatidylcholine and
- 00:32:20then get exported out as VLDL and that's
- 00:32:24what you measure in your serum
- 00:32:25triglyceride everybody see how that
- 00:32:26works
- 00:32:26got it so for any molecule of glucose
- 00:32:30how much of its going to end up as fat
- 00:32:31not very much but here's fructose now
- 00:32:37fructose is a whole nother story
- 00:32:38because only the liver can metabolize
- 00:32:40fructose so a hundred percent of the
- 00:32:43fructose load ends up at the liver and
- 00:32:44do you see glycogen anywhere no glycogen
- 00:32:49doesn't go to glycogen go straight down
- 00:32:51to the mitochondria the mitochondria end
- 00:32:52up with a huge pyruvate
- 00:32:54can't they'll deal with the whole thing
- 00:32:56and so it sends out a whole bunch of
- 00:32:58citrate which then ends up being built
- 00:33:00up into fatty acyl Koei's now some of
- 00:33:03that will get exported out as
- 00:33:05triglyceride and that's why you have the
- 00:33:07hypertriglyceridemia
- 00:33:08of sugar consumption but some of it
- 00:33:10won't make it out some of it will stay
- 00:33:13in the liver will stick in the liver and
- 00:33:16now you've got a lipid droplet now
- 00:33:17you've got fatty liver disease and once
- 00:33:19you have fatty liver disease now you
- 00:33:21have insulin resistance at the level of
- 00:33:24the liver so fructose and it's not
- 00:33:27insulin regulated so basically when you
- 00:33:30hit your intestine with a 20 ounce coke
- 00:33:34you are basically generated a tsunami of
- 00:33:39sugar that your liver can't handle and
- 00:33:43your liver has no choice but to take
- 00:33:45that whole tsunami and turn it into fat
- 00:33:48some of it will go out and be risk
- 00:33:52factor for heart disease and obesity and
- 00:33:54some of it will stick and be a risk
- 00:33:56factor for fatty liver disease and
- 00:33:57diabetes so I guess you can choose which
- 00:34:00one you want to die off but that's where
- 00:34:03the draw that's the driver of the
- 00:34:04phenomenon and we've proven that by
- 00:34:08doing a study where we basically took 43
- 00:34:10kids from our own UCSF pediatric obesity
- 00:34:13clinic with metabolic syndrome
- 00:34:15african-american and Latino all high
- 00:34:18sugar consumers and what we did was we
- 00:34:20figured out what they were eating on
- 00:34:22their home diet we studied them on their
- 00:34:24home diet and then for the next nine
- 00:34:25days we catered their meals no added
- 00:34:29sugar
- 00:34:31we took their % consumption of sugar
- 00:34:34from 28% of calories to 10% of calories
- 00:34:38everybody got that 28% down to 10% so
- 00:34:42that's a loss of about 350 to 400
- 00:34:44calories per day as sugar now if you do
- 00:34:49that for 10 days 9 days you're going to
- 00:34:52lose some weight we didn't want them to
- 00:34:55lose weight because if they lost weight
- 00:34:56and they got better people would say
- 00:34:58well of course they got better they lost
- 00:34:59weight we wanted them to stay the same
- 00:35:01weight so we had to replace what we took
- 00:35:06out with something else
- 00:35:08we gave them refined starch got it so in
- 00:35:14the vernacular we took the pastries out
- 00:35:16we put the bagels in we took the
- 00:35:18sweetened yogurt out we put the baked
- 00:35:20potato chips in we took the chicken
- 00:35:22teriyaki out we put the turkey hotdogs
- 00:35:24in okay so we can give him good food we
- 00:35:26gave him crappy food we hadn't processed
- 00:35:28food we get him kid food
- 00:35:30we gave him food kids would eat we
- 00:35:31bought it at Safeway okay but it was no
- 00:35:34added sugar food it was high starch low
- 00:35:37sugar food and we gave him a scale and
- 00:35:40every day we'd call him up on the phone
- 00:35:42say would you weigh and if they were
- 00:35:44losing weight eat more in order to keep
- 00:35:47them weight constant over the course of
- 00:35:49the 10 days and then we studied him
- 00:35:51again and we published these three
- 00:35:55papers and actually a fourth and we're
- 00:35:56about to we're writing the fifth and the
- 00:35:58sixth now on the study so this is just
- 00:36:02describing what I just told you all of
- 00:36:04their labs got better their fasting
- 00:36:07glucose went down five points their
- 00:36:08blood pressure went down five points
- 00:36:10their fasting lactate and that's really
- 00:36:12important they had a lactate level at
- 00:36:14baseline you're not supposed to have a
- 00:36:17lactate level at baseline if you have a
- 00:36:19lactate level where's mark if you have a
- 00:36:21lactate level at baseline that means you
- 00:36:23are either post-exercise or you have
- 00:36:25cancer or you have a mitochondrial
- 00:36:27encephalomyelitis gids had a lactate
- 00:36:30level and it went down just by switching
- 00:36:34starch for sugar they're fasting insulin
- 00:36:38went down 25% the glucose area to the
- 00:36:41curve went down 8% their insulin the
- 00:36:43area to the curve went down 25% their
- 00:36:45triglycerides went down 46% every aspect
- 00:36:50of their metabolic health improved with
- 00:36:51no change in calories and no change in
- 00:36:53weight we reverse their metabolic
- 00:36:55syndrome and I'll show it to you so
- 00:36:57here's their oral glucose tolerance test
- 00:36:58before and after on the left is the
- 00:37:00glucose down 8% and there's the insulin
- 00:37:03curve the Kraft curve if you will and
- 00:37:06you'll notice that before it wasn't
- 00:37:09coming down because they were insulin
- 00:37:11resistant and even though they were
- 00:37:14getting more glucose they actually had a
- 00:37:17more sensitive insulin curve
- 00:37:20their insulin Aryan to the curve went
- 00:37:22down 25% and they started clearing the
- 00:37:24insulin because their liver was working
- 00:37:26better so we wanted to see whether or
- 00:37:30not their liver was turning that sugar
- 00:37:32into fat so what we did was he gave them
- 00:37:34c-13 labelled acetate which got
- 00:37:36incorporated into new palmitate which we
- 00:37:38could then measure in the VLDL and
- 00:37:40here's what their Denova lipogenesis did
- 00:37:44it got cut in half so they're making
- 00:37:46less fat in their liver even though
- 00:37:47they're getting just as many calories
- 00:37:49and more glucose now what happened to
- 00:37:53their fat stores now remember they
- 00:37:55didn't lose weight kept the same weight
- 00:37:57so there's subcutaneous fat did not
- 00:38:00change at all but take a look at their
- 00:38:03visceral fat went down 7% but take a
- 00:38:05look at their liver fat went down 22%
- 00:38:0922% with no change in calories in no
- 00:38:11change in weight and as it turns out
- 00:38:13their change in liver fat predicted
- 00:38:16their change in insulin sensitivity and
- 00:38:19now we actually have data that showed
- 00:38:21that they had non-alcoholic fatty
- 00:38:23pancreas disease - and that got better
- 00:38:27when we took the sugar out of their diet
- 00:38:28so in cartoon form fatty liver with lots
- 00:38:34of triglyceride lots of VLDL lots of
- 00:38:36liver fat nine days of isocaloric
- 00:38:38fructose restriction the liver fat went
- 00:38:41down the de novo lipogenesis went down
- 00:38:42the VLDL went down and the insulin
- 00:38:45sensitivity and the insulin secretion
- 00:38:46improved in other words we reversed
- 00:38:48their metabolic syndrome with no change
- 00:38:50in calories no change in weight QED
- 00:38:52proof positive fu
- 00:39:02so we think that the adipose centric of
- 00:39:08your version of metabolic syndrome is
- 00:39:10actually the problem it can happen yes
- 00:39:14but you have to get really fat to have
- 00:39:16that happen what more likely happens is
- 00:39:19your liver gets insulin resistant
- 00:39:21because of the sugar bolus that now all
- 00:39:25of us are exposed to from processed food
- 00:39:27which drives fatty liver which then
- 00:39:30drives hepatic glucose output which then
- 00:39:32drives the beta cell to make extra
- 00:39:34insulin which then drives increased out
- 00:39:37of agenesis at the level of the fat cell
- 00:39:39this is the HEPA docent review of
- 00:39:42metabolic syndrome and then the muscles
- 00:39:44along for the ride but that's not all
- 00:39:47you think that's all there's more
- 00:39:51reactive oxygen species we know this is
- 00:39:53very important for metabolic syndrome so
- 00:39:56here are five pictures of food they all
- 00:39:59share one thing in common what is it
- 00:40:02they're all brown thank you this is
- 00:40:05called the Browning reaction or the my
- 00:40:08yard reaction it's the reason for
- 00:40:11hemoglobin a1c it's the non enzymatic
- 00:40:13glycation of proteins so here's how you
- 00:40:17should think about it you can slow roast
- 00:40:20your meat at 375 degrees for an hour or
- 00:40:24you can slow roast your meat at 98.6
- 00:40:27degrees for 75 years the answer is the
- 00:40:30same your browning you're just all
- 00:40:32browning your browning right now as we
- 00:40:34speak it's part of life okay death is
- 00:40:37part of life this is what kills you okay
- 00:40:40it's just a question of how fast and if
- 00:40:43you don't believe me here's newborn rib
- 00:40:45cartilage in the upper left nice and
- 00:40:48white and there's 88 year old rib
- 00:40:50cartilage nice and brown okay you're
- 00:40:53browning and if you add orange juice
- 00:40:54this morning you're browning seven times
- 00:40:56faster but I already know you didn't
- 00:40:58because this is the low carb conference
- 00:40:59okay
- 00:41:00so why is this happen because the
- 00:41:04aldehyde moiety of the linear form of
- 00:41:07glucose binds to epsilon amino groups of
- 00:41:09lysine on the hemoglobin molecule which
- 00:41:12forms a shift base and then
- 00:41:13spontaneously decomposes to form this
- 00:41:14amid linkage and that basically stays
- 00:41:17for three months and that's why you
- 00:41:19commissioner hemoglobin a1c and every
- 00:41:21time this reaction occurs you throw off
- 00:41:23an ro s a reactive oxygen species in
- 00:41:26oxygen radical oxidative stress which
- 00:41:29has to be quenched by an antioxidant in
- 00:41:33the liver that would be glutathione or
- 00:41:35vitamin E in other organs they have
- 00:41:38other antioxidants but primarily we're
- 00:41:40talking about liver here
- 00:41:41okay everybody with me and it doesn't
- 00:41:43matter if it's glucose or fructose but
- 00:41:45it turns out glucose doesn't do this
- 00:41:48very fast it does it but it doesn't do
- 00:41:51it very fast okay
- 00:41:53the reason is because of that ring form
- 00:41:55remember that six membered ring well
- 00:41:58there it is on top so there's the linear
- 00:42:00form of glucose the ring form there's
- 00:42:02the space-occupying model notice six
- 00:42:05membered ring hydroxy methyl group
- 00:42:07sticking up not bothering anybody
- 00:42:09this is a happy compound at pH 37 a pH
- 00:42:137.4 37 degrees only 0.8% of the glucose
- 00:42:17in your body is in the linear form where
- 00:42:20it can bind to proteins but now take a
- 00:42:23look at fructose below linear form ring
- 00:42:26form space-occupying model five membered
- 00:42:29ring tighter wound easier to break apart
- 00:42:34called ionic strain two hydroxy methyl
- 00:42:39groups axially button heads called
- 00:42:42allosteric interaction basically driving
- 00:42:45them apart so at pH 37 degree at the h7
- 00:42:49point for 37 degrees 3% of the fructose
- 00:42:52will be in the linear form and that
- 00:42:55reactive keto group is just as reactive
- 00:42:57as the reactive aldehyde group so more
- 00:43:00fructose more oxygen radicals and we can
- 00:43:06show that and you can do the study at
- 00:43:08home if you want take two test tubes
- 00:43:10fill them with albumin bovine serum
- 00:43:12albumin
- 00:43:13in water okay add equal amounts of
- 00:43:17glucose or fructose to each cap them
- 00:43:19with parafilm put them in the sunlight
- 00:43:20and each day come back and stick it in
- 00:43:22your home spectrophotometer and this is
- 00:43:24how fast the reaction occurs you see for
- 00:43:27glucose you see for fructose seven times
- 00:43:29faster 100 times the number of oxygen
- 00:43:32radicals well you have to do something
- 00:43:34with those you have to quench them you
- 00:43:36have to make them you know basically die
- 00:43:38and that's what the peroxisomes do and
- 00:43:41that's why people use tea CDs for
- 00:43:43metabolic syndrome is because that
- 00:43:45increases the number of peroxisomes and
- 00:43:48we know because if the more greater the
- 00:43:51fructose consumption the greater the
- 00:43:52steatosis
- 00:43:53or fibrosis so this is basically what
- 00:43:56we're saying is fructose enters the
- 00:43:59liver cell combined cause the my yard
- 00:44:02reaction which will then generate
- 00:44:04reactive oxygen species the mitochondria
- 00:44:06will generate reactive oxygen species in
- 00:44:09addition of course the cytokines that
- 00:44:11come from the peripheral fat will also
- 00:44:13generate reactive oxygen species so you
- 00:44:15have this ro s pool sitting in the liver
- 00:44:17that has to be quenched and they go to
- 00:44:20the peroxisome to die unless the
- 00:44:23peroxisome doesn't have enough
- 00:44:25antioxidants in which case then the RO
- 00:44:27s's can damage the liver cell it can
- 00:44:30cause lipid peroxidation because protein
- 00:44:31denaturation can cause what we call ER
- 00:44:34stress and the plasmic reticulum stress
- 00:44:37you may have heard that term okay and
- 00:44:39what that means is you will end up not
- 00:44:41being able to fold your insulin molecule
- 00:44:44or being able to fold your insulin
- 00:44:46receptor molecule known as the unfolded
- 00:44:48protein response so now you've got
- 00:44:49cellular metabolic dysfunction and
- 00:44:51potentially cell death that is metabolic
- 00:44:55syndrome okay I've got one minute and 13
- 00:45:00seconds to tell you about cancer so I'm
- 00:45:06gonna talk about plausibility mechanisms
- 00:45:07correlation no causation yet and that's
- 00:45:10the issue so you've probably heard the
- 00:45:13cancers of metabolic disease because
- 00:45:15different things affect its ability to
- 00:45:18progress and all of those things are
- 00:45:20related to metabolic syndrome so the
- 00:45:23question is the plausibility how does
- 00:45:25sugar make the
- 00:45:26happen so who here has ever heard of
- 00:45:29otto warburg good the Warburg effect he
- 00:45:33was the person who figured out that
- 00:45:34cancer cells do not need oxygen to grow
- 00:45:37he won the Nobel Prize in 1931 so can
- 00:45:41anybody else think of a cell that
- 00:45:44doesn't need oxygen to grow how about a
- 00:45:48fetus the oxygen tension in a fetus the
- 00:45:52po2 is 30 so how does this how does the
- 00:45:56fetus grow it grows faster turns out
- 00:45:58actually that the more oxygen the less
- 00:46:00growth the less oxygen the more growth
- 00:46:03this makes absolutely no sense except it
- 00:46:06does and this is the key so
- 00:46:09differentiated tissue have mitochondria
- 00:46:12cancer cells don't anaerobes grow but
- 00:46:16they don't have mitochondria either in
- 00:46:17fact mitochondria burn energy all the
- 00:46:21way to carbon dioxide but cancer cells
- 00:46:23and fetal cells and anaerobes they need
- 00:46:26the glucose they need the carbon
- 00:46:29backbone of glucose for other stuff if
- 00:46:31they burn it all the way to carbon
- 00:46:33dioxide guess what no other stuff they
- 00:46:36needed for ribose for DNA they needed
- 00:46:38for lipids for membranes they needed for
- 00:46:41amino acids to build their cells
- 00:46:43that's how cells grow so you can either
- 00:46:48burn or you can grow you can't do both
- 00:46:50and at any given point in a cell's life
- 00:46:53they will have to do either one or the
- 00:46:56other never both at the same time and
- 00:46:58that's important for you to understand
- 00:47:01there is a growth paradigm there is a
- 00:47:04burning paradigm okay we're going to
- 00:47:07talk about in a minute what those are
- 00:47:08and what causes that so when a cell is
- 00:47:12doing the right thing
- 00:47:13nutrient transporters bring stuff in and
- 00:47:16the glycolysis occurs you get two
- 00:47:19pyruvates you have two NADH s and two
- 00:47:22ATP's so you don't get a whole lot of
- 00:47:24ATP out of Peyer of it out of glucose
- 00:47:26from the glycolysis but the pyruvate
- 00:47:29will enter the TCA cycle throw off a lot
- 00:47:32of nadh which will then of course
- 00:47:36act as a oxidative reaction later and
- 00:47:41you get 30 ATP out of the TCA cycle
- 00:47:44burning of of pyruvate okay and you will
- 00:47:49make a little bit of lactate not very
- 00:47:51much and that will recycle and that will
- 00:47:54come in and will also end up as asked
- 00:47:56your Co way through that process I just
- 00:47:58showed you and it will throw off 108 ATP
- 00:48:00so when your cell is in burning mode you
- 00:48:03can generate a whole lot of ATP from
- 00:48:05glucose or from fat and protein the same
- 00:48:08thing but when you have a cancer cell
- 00:48:10you do not have mitochondria the
- 00:48:13mitochondria can't keep up with the cell
- 00:48:15division in addition because the cells
- 00:48:17growing so fast it outgrows this blood
- 00:48:19supply so there are a lot of cells in
- 00:48:21cancers that can't be fed with oxygen so
- 00:48:25they are growing without oxygen the
- 00:48:28question is if you're only getting 2 ATP
- 00:48:30out of glycolysis because that's what
- 00:48:31you can do without oxygen how can they
- 00:48:34do that how can they stay alive and the
- 00:48:35answer is because they're putting in 400
- 00:48:38times more because they have opened up
- 00:48:41the floodgates so that that cancer cell
- 00:48:44is now being flooded with glucose that's
- 00:48:47why so glucose is absolutely vital for
- 00:48:51cancer cell growth to make ATP short but
- 00:48:54mostly by via glycolysis but there's 400
- 00:48:57times as much but you need ribose for
- 00:48:59DNA you need fat for membranes the
- 00:49:01pentose phosphate shunt makes that
- 00:49:03happen so if you burn it all the way to
- 00:49:07carbon dioxide that's an end product
- 00:49:08you're done okay yeah makes a lot of ATP
- 00:49:11but that's it you can't grow on that so
- 00:49:15you don't want oxygen you don't want
- 00:49:19mitochondria in a cancer cell so cancer
- 00:49:23cells are all about making new cells now
- 00:49:25you got a whole bunch of glucose coming
- 00:49:27in so you got a whole bunch of pyruvate
- 00:49:28a whole bunch of ATP you're not going to
- 00:49:31do much in the mitochondria at all
- 00:49:33you're gonna generate a whole bunch of
- 00:49:34lactate cancer cells make lactate like
- 00:49:36crazy the pentose phosphate Chen is
- 00:49:37gonna make ribose genomic DNA okay
- 00:49:40you're gonna generate the de novo
- 00:49:42lipogenesis you're gonna make fat out of
- 00:49:43your asset Eelco a like I showed you in
- 00:49:45the
- 00:49:46in out of the mitochondria and you're
- 00:49:48going to take glutamine and you're going
- 00:49:50to turn that into proteins as well okay
- 00:49:54so what is fructose do fructose enters
- 00:49:56that glycolysis remember it doesn't have
- 00:49:58insulin and it doesn't need anything and
- 00:50:00it generates more fat and more ribose
- 00:50:04now the question is why real quick this
- 00:50:08is the hypothesis part of this this is
- 00:50:11the cellular metabolism in cancer worked
- 00:50:13out by Luke and Leia's group at Cornell
- 00:50:16and there are three count'em three
- 00:50:20enzymes in each cell that tell the cell
- 00:50:23what to do with the energy and here they
- 00:50:26are the first one is called pi3 kinase
- 00:50:29you may have heard of it pi3 kinase
- 00:50:31determines whether the cell opens up to
- 00:50:33let the four hundred times as much
- 00:50:35glucose in that's it's job is to open
- 00:50:38the floodgates the next one is am p
- 00:50:41kinase and that's the one that tells the
- 00:50:43mitochondria burn or not okay so take
- 00:50:46that extra glucose and either burn it or
- 00:50:48don't depending on whether it's turned
- 00:50:51on or off and then the last one which is
- 00:50:53not on the slide is called mTOR
- 00:50:54mammalian target of rapamycin and that's
- 00:50:56the enzyme that tells the cell whether
- 00:50:58to live or die it generates otology when
- 00:51:01it's on okay so we know that this is
- 00:51:05true because we know that metformin can
- 00:51:07inhibit cancer and the foreman
- 00:51:08stimulates an p kinase because it's
- 00:51:10basically generating mitochondria and by
- 00:51:13doing so it's improving insulin
- 00:51:15sensitivity and it's also increasing
- 00:51:17burning so that you don't have the the
- 00:51:21tools to make extra cells so metformin
- 00:51:25is an anti-cancer drug it's also an
- 00:51:27anti-aging drug because it's allowing
- 00:51:29stuff to burn to completion so here's
- 00:51:33the hypothesis there are three enzymes
- 00:51:35they can either be on or off which means
- 00:51:38there are eight permutations two to the
- 00:51:40cubed so one is for growth when pi3
- 00:51:43kinase is on the ampa kinase is off and
- 00:51:46mTOR is on you have growth and that's
- 00:51:49when you have cancer when it's the
- 00:51:51opposite when the pi3 kinase is off the
- 00:51:54ante highnesses on in the mTOR is off
- 00:51:55that's burning these are the two growth
- 00:51:57and burning growth and burning
- 00:51:59so every cell in the body has to be able
- 00:52:01to do one of these at one time in its
- 00:52:03life but there are six other
- 00:52:06permutations and here they are and it
- 00:52:10turns out that whenever you have one of
- 00:52:11these other permutations that's when you
- 00:52:14have disease so when the pi3 kinase is
- 00:52:20on but the others are not now you have
- 00:52:23all this extra glucose and you don't
- 00:52:24know what to do with it
- 00:52:25that's metabolic syndrome when the mTOR
- 00:52:28is on and nothing else is on then you
- 00:52:30have early aging because you can't clear
- 00:52:32cells because there's no autophagy
- 00:52:34because that's the garbage crew otology
- 00:52:37and when you don't have otology you have
- 00:52:39cellular senescence when you have a good
- 00:52:43thing about a MP kindnesses it turns off
- 00:52:45mTOR so you can actually have mTOR being
- 00:52:50on ik will be turned off by MP kinase
- 00:52:52point is you can have different aspects
- 00:52:55of cellular survival and disease based
- 00:52:59on these different enzymes being set at
- 00:53:02different places and you know what sets
- 00:53:03those enzymes in different places food
- 00:53:06no drugs food a MP kindness is the
- 00:53:12master regulator I'm gonna go through
- 00:53:13this really fast okay it promotes all
- 00:53:16the burning things which are here in
- 00:53:18green and it stops all the growth things
- 00:53:21which are here in blue and if you up the
- 00:53:24iamp kinase you can't even get liver fat
- 00:53:25because your livers burning like crazy
- 00:53:27you can't even store it it is
- 00:53:30exquisitely sensitive to a MP that's why
- 00:53:33it's called a MP kinase because a MP
- 00:53:34fits into the active site and a MP goes
- 00:53:39into that active site and basically
- 00:53:41turns on that because it says we need
- 00:53:44more mitochondria because a MP says that
- 00:53:46so much ATP has been basically used up
- 00:53:50okay well that active site has three
- 00:53:54arginine and the fructose gets converted
- 00:53:58to a meta Futaba light called
- 00:54:00methylglyoxal and we found this in our
- 00:54:03studies in kids and what it does is it
- 00:54:06goes into that active site binds to
- 00:54:08those arginines through that mired
- 00:54:10reaction
- 00:54:10and basically inactivates the ANP kinase
- 00:54:13and when you have a and P kinase that's
- 00:54:15dead guess what happens you get growth
- 00:54:21when you shouldn't so we know that
- 00:54:25because we measured D lactate D lactates
- 00:54:27a very specific metabolic byproduct of
- 00:54:29methylglyoxal not l lactate d lactate
- 00:54:31different you need a special study and
- 00:54:34it's higher in the obese and we saw in
- 00:54:37our children it went down by 38% just by
- 00:54:40getting rid of the fructose so we're
- 00:54:42pretty darn sure that methylglyoxal is
- 00:54:45the business end of the fructose
- 00:54:46molecule it is the toxic metabolite in
- 00:54:49the liver that is driving EMP kinase to
- 00:54:52do all the wrong things and none of the
- 00:54:55right things so I'm gonna go I'm just
- 00:55:00going to because of time I'm gonna
- 00:55:01forget about that I'm just gonna finish
- 00:55:02with correlation so does sugar
- 00:55:05consumption correlate with cancer in
- 00:55:08humans and the answer is yep in certain
- 00:55:12ones endodermal ones like there and with
- 00:55:16breast cancer as well but fiber will
- 00:55:19make that go away and if you look at
- 00:55:22sugar sweetened beverages against
- 00:55:24obesity you can see they are synergistic
- 00:55:27in terms of cancer risk American Heart
- 00:55:31Association knows this says we need to
- 00:55:32cut our sugar consumption but we haven't
- 00:55:34and basically our food dollars are being
- 00:55:38spent on processed foods loaded with
- 00:55:41sugar very specifically because the food
- 00:55:44industry knows when they added you buy
- 00:55:46more and this is what we are giving
- 00:55:49cancer patients and sure plus take a
- 00:55:52look at the ingredients it's a baby
- 00:55:55milkshake or a Coca Cola either or it's
- 00:55:58the same thing so do you think that's a
- 00:56:00good idea to give to a cancer not so
- 00:56:03much
- 00:56:03so in summary sugar consumption
- 00:56:06correlates with a be seeing cancer
- 00:56:07obesity is associated with cancer
- 00:56:09development but metabolic syndrome due
- 00:56:11to insulin resistance is the reason
- 00:56:14fructose possesses unique metabolic
- 00:56:17characteristics that promote cellular
- 00:56:19damage the de novo lipogenesis the liver
- 00:56:21fat the mired reaction and the reactive
- 00:56:24oxygen species
- 00:56:25with the cellular asian sugars an
- 00:56:27independent risk factor for metabolic
- 00:56:29syndrome and we have causation on that
- 00:56:33it's exclusive of calories it's
- 00:56:35exclusive of obesity it is causation
- 00:56:37causation meets the definition the
- 00:56:41scientific and the legal definition for
- 00:56:43causation and that is why there are now
- 00:56:46lawsuits that are succeeding against the
- 00:56:49food companies sugar may also be a risk
- 00:56:52factor for cancer development and
- 00:56:53promotion through these mechanisms I
- 00:56:56just described and we currently consume
- 00:56:58triple our limit it is driving these
- 00:57:02processes and nutritional support for
- 00:57:05cancer provides high fructose content
- 00:57:07you think that's a good idea I don't
- 00:57:09think so in fact Memorial
- 00:57:11sloan-kettering and MD Anderson are now
- 00:57:13conducting experiments with the
- 00:57:15ketogenic diet in patients with cancer
- 00:57:18to see if they they will improve for
- 00:57:20this reason and I am an advisor to both
- 00:57:22so with that I want to thank my
- 00:57:24collaborators at UCSF at Berkeley at
- 00:57:28Toro University at San Francisco General
- 00:57:30at University of Sydney Kieran Rooney
- 00:57:32whom should be known to this group
- 00:57:34already and with that I will close and
- 00:57:37answer questions at the Q&A thank you
- 00:57:39[Applause]
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