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busu is an online language platform that
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claims to teach you real world language
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skills by connecting you with native
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speakers and boasts full courses from
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beginner to Upper Intermediate in any of
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15 languages even offering Advanced
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courses in some of those languages sth
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I'm going to smoke you guys 5 years ago
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I reviewed it and I really liked it and
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talk about why it is the best language
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learning app back then it felt like a
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nice combination of virtually living in
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the country and being instructed in the
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building blocks of the
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language per 5 years is a long time
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especially when you've since learned a
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lot about what language learning really
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is no that is not how this works
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additionally we've seen the emergence of
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language and language learning tools
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that we once would not have dreamt of
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but sadly the most popular language app
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and I think you know which one I'm
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talking about has only gotten worse it's
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been an hour and a half and I've only
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finished those two to see if Buu has
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followed suit and become a joke really
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that was the or moved a step in the
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right direction I spent three whole days
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testing busu premium this time in most
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of the languages that it offers complete
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beginner A1 Korean in 65 so have the
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childish useless games that seem to pass
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for language learning in some apps
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infected even the once more mature apps
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like busu or is it still worthwhile for
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a language learner to be looking at busu
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premium I still think it's relatively
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good at what it does in short can you
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learn a language with bu how much of
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this do you feel like you would need to
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do my name is Lamont we do language
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learning stuff on this channel and if
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that interests you maybe subscribe and
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let's do it Shana chos first of all I
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want to say that this is like my ninth
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or 10th attempt at making this video
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because every time I thought I'd wrapped
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up everything I wanted to say about busu
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I would think to check something else
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and need to add to my review basically
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busu it's good and it's bad and if they
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wanted to make the good parts of it they
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could they could make it all good but
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they don't do that okay so on screen you
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can see the languages that they're
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offering that's two new languages since
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my last review 5 years ago 5 years two
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languages seems a little bit slow but
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anyway the new languages are Korean and
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Dutch that now gives it 15 languages
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overall including English and look it
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makes sense for me to just dive into the
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major flaw that I think holds busu back
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at first I tested it in German Russian
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and even Korean and I found that it just
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moved too slowly through those courses
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for anyone over the age of four so I
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tried the Dutch course but this time
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since I'd found the German 2 easy and I
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already speak Swedish I scrolled all the
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way to the bottom of the Dutch A1
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section and just had a crack at the A1
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certificate test now according to Buu's
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program it should take you around 20
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days at something like 15 minutes a day
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to reach a level where this certificate
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would be achievable that's 20 days 15
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minutes a day so I wondered if it would
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be possible to compress those 20 days
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into zero days and just take the test
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because English is a Germanic language
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and Swedish just teach us to
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say that's an even more Germanic
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language so I skipped straight to the
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Dutch A1 test without doing any lessons
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and look I'll be honest I was kind of
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confident I was like I think I could
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pass this and then I can say hey I
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learned Dutch in 20 minutes which is an
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awesome YouTube title but I did not
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expect this no one expects a VPN shark
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who can talk what no I knew you could
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talk did you get bigger a little rude of
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you to ask but yes too many hot dogs at
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ball games oh yeah you've been going to
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the game so that the people who are in
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blackout zones can still watch their
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teams play that's right plus I've been
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to Europe like a million times since we
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SP come on no one can get to another
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continent that quickly it took me 24
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hours and cost three grand have you
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learned nothing probably not really SJ
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is VPN I can transport you across the
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world in a matter of seconds so that
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websites and apps would treat you like
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your dare okay so what they like speak
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to you in the local language then
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sometimes yes oh a lot of language
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options on streaming content are blocked
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because they're like no one in Australia
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wants to watch this in Swedish only
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widows would want that let's not show it
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it's not just weirdos but with me there
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is no judgment you want to watch it in
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Swedish sh po you want to listen to an
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audio book in Finish no I what makes you
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think that uh the fact that your audio
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book app is infinish oh no no no no
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that's just cuz it's cheaper than the
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Swedish one but it still has all the
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content in
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Swedish what you're welcome oh that was
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that was you so you're a little slow but
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that's okay because Sur Shar is fast you
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can put it on your device connect and
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boom you're somewhere else and now
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hackers and trackers can't see you
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properly either and for good measure it
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comes with a bunch of extra security
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features meaning you get a broader and
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safer internet experience it sounds good
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but I'm not sure I'll like it can I just
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try it yes I have a free 30-day trial
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awesome do I have to do anything
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particular to get that yes you need to
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edit this video so that it looks like
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I'm actually talking put the link in the
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description the QR code on screen
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a bunch of stuff you actually kind of
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need to get going Lon yeah okay no I
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meant do the people who are watching
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need to do anything specific to get the
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30-day free trial or the really cool
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discount and all that good stuff well
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you should have said that come on man I
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thought you did language stuff be
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specific other people can just use the
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QR code up there or the link all right
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that sounds really easy it is anyway I'm
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off to swet no way can I come with you
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no you're making a video get back to
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work so as I was saying I I did the
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Dutch A1 exam with literally no study at
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all but I still thought that maybe I
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could pass but I didn't expect to get
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91% on an exam that busu wanted you to
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take after 3 weeks and okay I understand
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that someone who speaks Swedish is going
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to have an advantage in starting out in
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Dutch and I got a bit lucky with some of
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the 50/50 guesses but that doesn't
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matter I should not even be able to get
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70% let alone 90 on a test that's
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designed to be taken after like five or
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six hours of study and I took after zero
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hours my question isn't why is this test
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so easy rather why are we supposed to do
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so many lessons before taking this level
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of test if I or if anyone else and even
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someone who only speaks English took
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this test after 1 hour of good
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instruction in Dutch I think you'd score
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100% and you would not have to guess
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anything in my opinion busu is taking
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maybe five or even six times as long as
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it needs to to teach you the basics in a
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language like Dutch for the average
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language learner so it's a complete
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waste of time and I can end the review
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there right well not quite because where
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busu starts making a little more sense
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is in these specific courses see when
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you select a language it doesn't just
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start you out in that language it gives
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you options for different courses within
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the language and normally I find these
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also to be a complete waste of time
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because you see that there are things
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like German for business but it says
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that the level is A2 I want to know how
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anyone is doing business in German if
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they're at an A2 level even B2 German
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would make it tricky to do business in
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and because language doesn't exist in
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these neat little bubbles anyway I don't
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believe that a lot of these have any
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real logic behind them other than to
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make the student believe that they're
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learning the things relevant to that
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Niche normally I think that but some of
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these courses actually do make sense for
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example these Spanish ones seem decent
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enough okay complete Latin American
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Spanish is a bit of a stretch because
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Latin American Spanish is like 40
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dialects of Spanish but they're
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basically saying that you can do the
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entire Spanish courses A1 through to B2
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without using European Spanish which is
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good then there are things like Advanced
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exam preparation which focuses on things
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that you're likely to have to read and
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speak about in exams and it is quite
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Advanced but it's nothing that you
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shouldn't be able to do if you really
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are at a C1 level so it's useful if
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you're actually at B2 and trying to kind
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of sneak through one of these exams as
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the though your C1 which I think is what
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a lot of people are trying to do when
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they take those exams anyway in Russian
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there's one for the celic alphabet just
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by itself which makes sense when it is
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indeed just an alphabet and everything
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you read is going to have to go through
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that alphabet and it doesn't take very
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long to learn so it's good that they
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have that option and the same thing
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exists for both Korean and Arabic and
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again that is how I would prefer to do
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it if I were learning those languages in
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Japanese there's a course for each of
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the three writing systems I don't know
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how exhaustive they are but it's good
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that you can focus on whichever one you
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want to focus on French is lacking
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anything useful when it comes to the
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specific courses and being so similar to
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English I'd say if you really feel that
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you must use busu to learn French just
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skip straight to B1 you'll pick it up
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the A1 and A2 courses are going to spend
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probably 30 hours total teaching you
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what you could probably learn with a few
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few good YouTube videos and just going
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off script here for a second I want to
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clarify that I'm not being all like oh
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French is so easy I learned it in 2 days
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it's just that they're going to spend a
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whole lesson that takes like six minutes
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teaching you bonjour and it's like you
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know that already okay you've lived in
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the world you know what the French for
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hello is and you know tons of other
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words as well you don't need to do the
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A1 and A2 courses in something like this
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English has a lot of specific courses
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and some of them do look okay but I
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doubt that anyone who's watching this
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video is actually interested in taking
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any of them anyway lastly I want to talk
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about Chinese which has a character
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course which puzzled me because it says
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that the level is A1 and I just thought
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yeah but isn't like the whole language
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just made of 50,000 characters I mean
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the characters can't all be at A1 but
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what they mean is that you can start it
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at A1 and it is quite a long course that
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takes you through all the characters and
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that's why I'm bringing it up last
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because it moves us on to a different
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topic the Chinese characters course
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teaches you the most common Chinese
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characters as you'd imagine along with
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the words that they are used in and all
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at a pace that makes sense for someone
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who is new to Mandarin but notice how
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even though it's a character's course
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you still learn about words and their
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construction and sentences and how
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Chinese people interact and how they
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greet each other Etc what I'm saying is
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the characters are not taught in
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isolation because that would not make
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any sense instead they're taught with
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the context that you need to learn them
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so there's a lot of new information for
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an English speaker and they give you
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time and context to learn it good where
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it goes wrong is when they take exactly
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the same approach for Dutch German
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French Spanish Etc in one five minute
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lesson you learn the isolated
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phrase or and they're acting like that's
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exactly the same as learning not only
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how to say w j but also the characters
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for those words you can see the problem
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with that right no and I'm not saying
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that in French and German instead of a
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5- minute lesson it should just be a
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40-second lesson I'm saying use the 5
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minutes to expose us to more of the
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language give us more context and we'll
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learn everything including the specific
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thing that you want us to learn more
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quickly and more thoroughly they're like
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success you got it right we use gck to
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ask a friend informally how they are
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well isn't that what she asked but I put
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false so I'm not any clearer in fact
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it's like one of those things where the
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answers made me more confused but there
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are two of these additional or side car
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courses that I want to focus on because
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they had the right idea right here and
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whether it's busu or anything else this
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is the sort of stuff that can make
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language learning programs and apps
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worthwhile and whatever app or anything
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else that you're looking at if it
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doesn't have this sort of stuff and
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preferably a lot of it forget it for
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example in Korean one of the additional
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courses is this one where they've made
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this lowquality animated K drama of
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their own and you learn the vocabulary
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through that story and I was sitting
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there doing it for the sake of this
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review and I'm like guys this is it you
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had it right here but it's only 20
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minutes long in total and I'm like what
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are you doing why is the whole course
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not like this and I understand animating
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things even to a basic level like this
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is expensive but they've gone to the
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effort of recording multiple short
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videos of Korean saying an or or
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whatever it is and no matter how little
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that cost them I can guarantee you that
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it wasn't free to do it but it does
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nothing for the learner I actually put
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some much earlier footage of me testing
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busu onto my YouTube channel members for
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them to just see the process of my
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reviewing it and one of the channel
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members made the very astute observation
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that there is zero point to having a
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video when it's one phrase like does
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that make it more immersive to have a
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video of someone bowing and saying hello
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no I don't think it does any amount of
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money that they spent on these videos
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would have been better off being put
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into the krama you don't even have to do
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the animation for every part of it but
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just having the story is a good start we
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know which is a less well-known language
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learning program it has a lot of these
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mini stories last I checked they did not
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have audio on the stories which I think
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is a bit of a shame but whether it's du
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lingo or wio or busu or anything else I
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always wonder why are you spending 10
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minutes on videos that are teaching us
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to say hello when you could spend 30
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minutes making our brains immerse in
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something harder because we're going to
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learn more than five times as much in
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those 30 minutes it's only three times
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as long but we're going to learn a lot
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faster and better in that amount of time
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another interesting one that busu have
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is one called learn Spanish with El
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because it's the best thing they have
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and again it makes me ask why isn't
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there a lot more of this there are
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videos and articles all in Spanish with
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questions and closed passages again in
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Spanish busu if you're watching this is
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it right here that you had it right here
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do more of this there's nothing wrong
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with busu and there's certainly nothing
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wrong with these parts except that
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there's not enough of it it's missing
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the bank of content that something like
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pod 101 or spele both have a lot more of
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opportunities to hear more than 5
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Seconds of the language at a time I can
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remember even when I did German in high
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school which was not at a high level at
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all but even in that in our final year
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at least we would hear passages of about
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maybe 2 minutes of dialogue in German
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and then we would be asked questions
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about that on the paper that we're in
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German and we had to answer in German
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and we'd get maybe 3 minutes and then
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they'd play it again and then we'd get
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another 3 minutes and and then they'd
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play it again and then we'd get a final
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3 minutes a lot of chances to hear the
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same thing but it was immersive in that
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it was audio in German questions in
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German answering in German now don't get
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me wrong I was not ready for that I
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failed most of the time but that's
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because I never did my work I hardly
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ever went to class I really was not a
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good student in German but my point is
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we were kids expected to tick a box to
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say that we' completed a certain subject
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and we were still EXP to do harder
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German back then than I'm seeing in busu
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now and when I say harder I don't mean
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like grammatically or with harder
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vocabulary I mean more immersive German
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the topics I can see here in the B2
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section of busu are Advanced topics but
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as long as you're being served these
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little morsels of the language all the
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time it's just not going to prepare you
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for real German whether it's spoken by
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someone in ger or whether it's just a
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book in German you're not going to get
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there doing these 5 and 8C phrases I
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still don't really see a place to
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immerse anywhere I don't see a place to
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hear more than three words in Russian or
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any other language at a time until I've
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done tons of these super rudimentary
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exercises and that's not really
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necessary we need the immersion before
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we need to spend actual time doing
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actual things that's master in infan see
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come on like I'm I'm meant to be up to
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B1 by now I meant to have done what 40
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50 hours of this and you're still giving
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me one word of a sentence that's pretty
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slow and it's the only word that has an
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F in it and I'm supposed to not know
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that out of two potential words come on
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basically there's just like when they're
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asking me things those things are too
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easy not because my German or my Russian
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or my Korean are good but because
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they're too easy it's like one option
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and you're asking me to listen for one
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word out of maybe four or maybe six if
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it's in German it's like firstly how can
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you possibly get that wrong and secondly
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does that really train you for like for
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this for this many words this that might
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be too bright for the camera but like
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this is a kids book right you're asking
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me to complete this whole thing and
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saying like yeah that'll get you ready
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for this no it won't you need to do more
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you need to have more challenging things
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because they've just got more language
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in it right more challenging doesn't
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mean throwing curve balls at us and
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going like oh this thing that's like
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very near we're going that we're going
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to make you watch out for that more
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challenging just means more language I
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think with language learning more is
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more the person who knows 10,000 words
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in their target language is almost
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certainly going to be a better overall
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speaker a more fluent speaker than the
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person who knows 2,000 words and I
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disagree with anyone who says that they
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can get through all this and know the
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kind of 6,000 7,000 that they'll need to
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read something like this and even then
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I'm not sure that would be enough why
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are we being babied so much and it's not
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just busu it's duo lingo to my knowledge
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it's Babble the only one that doesn't do
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it that I'm aware of is speakly I think
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speakly is the most assimilated with
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what real language learning is actually
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like okay so quick counterargument time
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the counterargument to my criticism of
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busu and a lot of things such as du
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lingo is okay but you're meant to do
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immersion on your own something like
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this would work if you did it alongside
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immersion and online lessons with a
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teacher well yes if we're comparing
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doing cognitive Lang language immersion
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only so that is watching and listening
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to content in the language and doing
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nothing else on top of that with doing
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that same amount of cognitive language
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immersion plus say 30 minutes of busu a
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day then yes busu on top of the
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cognitive immersion would be better than
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nothing point taken I guess but firstly
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I see no recommendation from busu to be
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doing that kind of thing speakly is the
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only platform that I've seen and I'm not
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saying it's the only one just the only
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one I've seen that actually tells you to
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do things outside of itself outside of
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speaky and secondly it would still be
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significantly better again if you were
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to take those 30 minutes that you would
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have spent on Buu and put them into some
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kind of deliberate work with the stuff
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that you're watching and listening to
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for example taking an audio book that
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you've been listening to repetitively I
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hope and going through the book
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underlining words you don't know look
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them up something like that I call this
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getting your hands dirty being proactive
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about your own learning and obsessing
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over the material that you're working
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with basically what I'm saying is that
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for someone who is willing to put in the
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work to learn the language I don't think
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busu is appropriate at least not at the
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A1 or A2 stages but then just like I've
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said about duo lingo I also don't think
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it would work on its own so then I
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wonder who it's really for and I just
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think that something like this it's so
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broken down and structured and
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predictable and the environment is so
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safe and clean and there's like true or
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false or what did they say here and they
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ask you to listen for one word out of
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four it's just too easy and it's not
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developing fluency yeah okay when they
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send out the 75% off offers it's like
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$48 Australian it is pretty cheap I just
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can't really see myself ever using this
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unless they had a really obscure
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language that was hard to find anywhere
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else but they don't have that when I'd
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finally spent 3 days testing busu I had
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this to say it works for what it's
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trying to do and I'll say it again I
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just think it's trying to do the wrong
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thing it's trying to have you
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consciously learn and piece together the
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language at a rate of maybe six or seven
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pieces a day and a language is an entity
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that if learned properly contains
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thousands of interacting pieces so many
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that you will never be able to
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consciously learn them and so at this
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pace it's not going to take a really
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really long time it's just not going to
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happen ever so do I think busu is worth
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it look if you're not already getting
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exposure to the language every day
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through podcasts videos books or
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whatever then no busu is not going to
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teach you the language it's not the
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answer you're looking for but I guess it
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will teach you more than you already
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know because that would be nothing if
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you are getting exposure to the language
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and you've learned to be okay with not
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understanding things and just listening
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to things until you understand more but
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you want some guidance as well then
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maybe particularly if you're already at
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A2 then you can just go straight into
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the B1 sections of busu in most
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languages because the beginner stages
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are horrendously tedious and unnecessary
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but maybe if you can actually speak the
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language a little on your own then you
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might appreciate the native speaker
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feedback feature the whole thing is
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nicely laid out it's very clear what
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you're doing it has some nice features
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and they all work properly and it can be
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fun if you skip through to the more
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challenging sections so if you're
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looking to fill out your routine and
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you're prepared to move through busu
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faster than we'll feel comfortable and
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certainly faster than they recommend
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then maybe but if you're looking for an
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all-in-one solution to learn a language
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no get more exposure to the language
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learn to understand more words and
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phrases get more exposure use those
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words and phrases to understand more of
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what you're exposing your brain to and
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then get more exposure and then
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understand more and then learn to
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understand more and then start writing
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and then start speaking and then get
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corrected on that writing and speaking
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and then go back and get more exposure
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and just keep doing that over and over
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and over again until you understand
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everything that you read and listen to
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and then write and speak and then go
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back and repeat everything I just said
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again that is how you learn a language
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loiero
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uh yes you need to edit this video
