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please join me in welcoming Camille
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Paula yeah okay so I have this new book
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okay you know I had thought I was done
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with these subjects so I thought okay
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that I had dealt I had stomped okay on
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political correctness I went back to
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teaching and writing I didn't have to go
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back in public again I was writing on
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poetry on arch on movies etc I felt so
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liberated and now okay you know class
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okay I'm back okay I have to come go
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back on the heat on the road again okay
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this enormous surge of political
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correctness and it's gotten even worse
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okay you know you know people attacking
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speakers and Berkeley okay which is one
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of the great influences on me okay when
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I arrived in college 1964 fall of 64 it
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just happened that spring Mario Savio
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the Free Speech Movement okay huge
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influence on me okay all right the
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essence of the 60s the essence
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okay was free speech you know for free
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thought and free speech what the heck
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happens okay you know we've got the
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situation today where people go out they
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have in their heads these boobies these
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slogan words jargon words load low
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determines or we're against racism
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sexism homophobia who isn't okay and so
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on all right all right and and we are
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the forces of light they are the forces
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of darkness what kind of like Manichean
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you know if they're simplistic thinking
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is this all of art and culture in the
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u.s. is coming to a dead halt because of
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this hysteria okay so anyway I'm back
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and I'm back okay all right so all right
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oh my god all right
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so I was looking I've been looking
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forward for years to getting Mike Mike
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my third essay collection now my last
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one was vamps and tramps in 1994 okay
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I saw all these years have passed and
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I'm so in my third essay collection was
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part of the package deal with my
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publisher cannot double they you know
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with with glittering images so it's been
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years I've been waiting finally I
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thought I at last I'll get so many
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essays which I've written important
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essays I feel we are scattered all over
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the world in one place at last you know
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and but instead okay as I'm assembling
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all the material my publisher says gee
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all these things you know that you were
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saying 20 25 years ago about sex and
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gender seem like they're now they belong
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now so they had this idea they invented
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this idea they invented this book okay
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they could be called these essays off of
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the mass of the other things I wanted
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out right ends and put it into this into
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this book okay so it took me a long time
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I had to have you know go through
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everything I'd ever been written and
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presented them the editors with this
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pile of stuff and all on these subjects
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of sex gender and feminism and then and
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then they decided what would be you know
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they thought would be most interesting
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to contemporary readers because of how
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prophetic I was you know but so many
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issues including okay the you know the
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growth of that parasitic you know master
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class of administrators and college
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campuses is one of my big themes okay I
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was when the first thing you know send
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up that oh I mean probably be first to
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like send this warning shot up about it
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I said watch out okay that this
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bureaucracy you know that is slowly
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expanding and getting his tentacles into
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into into the operations of colleges and
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universities and look what's happened
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okay the faculty has totally lost power
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the faculty are eunuchs okay the faculty
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in this country have not yet what what
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have they ever said where have they
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stood up OK against against all these
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incursions on free speech free thought
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speeches nothing they're all they're all
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think they pose as leftist none of them
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are leftist this is like this is a
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delusion okay they're bourgeois
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careerists who latched on to leftism as
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a wonderful badge
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okay and I know because that when I
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entered graduate school in 1968 okay
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there weren't any leftists okay let's
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just didn't go to graduate school are
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you kidding me okay
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alright if there was anyone who was
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really you know kind of a radical they
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dropped out after a semester or two okay
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you know I mean I'll give you an example
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but night when I my last year of college
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I went to Harper College State
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University of New York at Binghamton and
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it's basically called Berkeley East as a
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matter of fact it so many radicals with
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all it's all these like incredibly
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progressive Jews you know from from New
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York City
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oh my god I I was like I'm from upstate
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a nob State girl so I'll do it the girls
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you know they were they were dressed in
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black leotards Martha Graham leotards
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everything they knew about abstract arts
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and so on I think we absolutely radical
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it was there forever
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anyway he's like so I know what a real
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radical looks like seething real radical
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looks like and when I was confronted by
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the leader of the campus radicals in my
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last semester of college and they said
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we heard okay that you're going to the
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Yale graduate school do one deal right
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and I said yeah okay alright and they
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said no you don't go to Yale okay in
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fact you don't even go to graduate
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school okay if you're gonna go to
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graduate school you have to go to
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Buffalo SUNY Buffalo know that now I
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actually would have been like you know I
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actually applied to Buffalo and would
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have been very happy to have gone there
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because it had Leslie Fiedler game who
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was an extremely radical writer in the
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forefront of all these studies about
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racism sexism homophobia okay i huge
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influence on me okay huge influence and
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also there was Norman Holland's okay who
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did psychoanalytic criticism at a time
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when it was not you know fashionable and
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during the period of the declining new
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criticism all right so I would have gone
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there but I chose Yale because of the
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library and I made the right choice
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because the library Sterling library was
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indeed the basis of all of my work i
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ransacked the stacks okay of that
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library but I just want to point out to
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you okay that's you know that my going
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to graduate school was regarded as in
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some way you know offensive to radical
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politics right and my choosing of Yale
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it was in particularly because it was an
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intolerable right so this idea I mean
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and then the people around me or my
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fellow students
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I mean they were they were progressive
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tending I would say but the idea that
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any of those people okay where actual
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radicals is such a joke okay alright as
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they as they you know as they trim
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themselves to fit into the wonderful
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career system moving up I well I thought
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I was there I might buy my third year at
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Yale as this stuff the French theory
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started leaking in okay from from the
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from the yearly visits from Derrida okay
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right and it was brought in this plague
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was brought in okay from Johns Hopkins
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you know University
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okay right so I saw it starting and I
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said I remember saying to a fellow
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student I said they're like high priests
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murmuring to each other okay I saw the
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disgusting elitism okay of
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post-structuralism from the start the
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idea that that is any kind of a leftist
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system is absolute nonsense okay all
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right so do you mean like well I don't
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start naming names already doing don't
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really want to all right what I've been
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on the attack against the queen of
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Gender Studies Judith Butler
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okay now Judith Butler okay it's like
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presents herself as the great leftist
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who the Berkeley right now and so on and
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so on but she practices post
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structuralism okay this this labyrinth
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in contorted jargon ridden thing the
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most elitist system in the world what
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does that have to do with leftism I mean
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this is a woman okay who now I I knew
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her because when I arrived at my first
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job at Bennington College and nothing
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was I was I was there right
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undergraduate gold 1972 um and she
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entered Bennington maybe a year or two
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after that so I knew her okay as a
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student and I and I mean she's like a
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smart smart okay but what can I say okay
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sweet and quirky individual okay in no
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way
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okay was Judith Butler ever okay an
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opponent of any system never did she
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challenge any system okay at all
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okay whereas I was in constant trouble
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if anything as a professor they finally
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kicked me out of there after I'd like
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you know seven or eight years
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it was like one incident after another I
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was either kicking someone and you know
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we're having a fistfight or
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doing some you know I always like this
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end
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was a police oh you know when I came on
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the scene in people said oh she's too
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much oh my god I am a shadow okay by 99
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when I came on the scene 1990 I was a
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shadow of what I was
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Amazon feminist you know in the in
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anyway so I know Judith Butler okay and
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you know and she wasn't even in my
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classes but I had her her girlfriends
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you know in my classes and so anyway she
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transferred to Yale she transferred to
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yell in the middle of the band and it
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Bennington at that moment was in the
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David Bowie
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you know transgender okay you know
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flamboyant moment huge influence on me
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enormous David Bowie yeah I mean over
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that period she transfers to you okay at
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the very moment as post-structuralism
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is the hip thing to do okay it's very
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hip in no way was it some sort of a act
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of defiance or resistance okay
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she adapted herself to the smoothly
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careerist thing post-structuralism which
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has destroyed the humanities okay
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absolutely destroyed it and my prescient
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book there is a reprint of what I wrote
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for The Chronicle of Higher Education
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which was a review about
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2013 maybe okay they asked me to review
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three new books by women young women
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academics and the trendy new fate thing
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of a bondage and you know and damage in
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bondage and domination okay and these
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are books from University presses so I'd
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like to know what what to expect and my
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essay which is a lengthy and detailed
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essay in the book okay
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demonstrates that how post structuralism
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has destroyed and destroyed a whole
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generation of young scholars maybe two
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generations now alright these these
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young women each one of their voices you
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can feel their personalities okay these
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are lively women okay you know lively
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optimistic idealistic women and and that
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horrible freight they have to carry in
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order to try to get a job okay in this
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profession with so many so few jobs you
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know because there's all kind the the
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bottom dropped out of the teaching
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profession like in the 1970s basically
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okay so in order to preserve any kind of
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job opportunity for them so they have to
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mouth platitudes about Foucault as
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Foucault so powerfully said okay
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on and on and on I mean you can't
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believe these books are ruined okay
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there's what this one book in particular
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that I really love meant in this essay
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okay which is about dominatrixes okay of
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big city Braavos so can she wouldn't did
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actual you know field research you know
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it if happens book that should have been
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published by it by a trade in a press
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didn't hear to it to a general audience
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with all but the crap that's in there
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okay
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the couldn't gobbledygook okay all right
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like actually even in the preface you
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know this young woman says and I want to
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thank my professor blah blah blah at
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Princeton okay for for telling me that
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possibly pure okay had much to say of
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know about dominators I had nothing to
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say about dominators this okay that guy
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has which is a con he's come he's
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absolutely required reading for
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undergraduates
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the guys are fraud okay he knows that
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this is a guy who knows nothing about
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about the history of the earth they like
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the base like this Oh II please
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pretentious theory people the amount of
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time that students are wasting at the
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undergraduate and graduate level okay
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reading this crap okay this post post
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structuralist cramp okay and then we
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having to read critics in English trying
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to imitate the contorted sound of a
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translated you know into English version
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of a French original okay that's what
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that's what's out there right now okay
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I mean and they all go to conferences
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and then they Mir back you know to each
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other and this the same discourse and oh
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oh wait and as a whole style you have to
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get this is slightly it's a kind of a
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superior there's a superior kind of
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snide style you have to get very knowing
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slightly smirking
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Serperior okay I mean it it's sick it's
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an absolute sickness okay
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parents are bankrupting themselves okay
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to send their kids to the Ivy League to
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have this junk inject it into their
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heads okay and then we wonder why
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okay the arts are the American arts are
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so boring even the popular arts are not
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boring okay
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even the popular arts can't get it right
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like right you know like this week I've
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listened spaz tweak in despair okay this
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much-touted series okay starring Susan
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Sarandon whom I love okay Jessica Lange
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a great actress okay Joan Crawford
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versus Betty Davis yet they can't even
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get that right okay
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I mean the films are there they invade
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if like the production that the clothing
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the sets the direction the writing every
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single thing shoddy crappy okay this is
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what we're surrounded by this is why I
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only watch now Turner Classic Movies the
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great things of the past to watch a
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great production values alright r.i.p
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robert osborne okay you know when one of
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the great kind of sirs a film my
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goodness alright at any rate okay
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I've been out for 25 oh my god how long
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I've been going on about these things
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and you're both the left and the right
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are guilty of ignoring the problems of
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the universities okay I blame you know
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you know William F Buckley okay as well
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okay they need none of them took it
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seriously and they said all
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post-structuralism
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it's a fad it'll go away I kept warning
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and warning like my own mentor Harold
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Bloom okay when I was writing my expose
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about a post structuralism junk bonds
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and corporate raiders you know they took
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six months to do it began is just a
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review of two books of you know of
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classics books by and by right these gay
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guys Foucault you know followers and so
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on I had no idea that's all just gonna
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give them a positive review and then I
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saw this - horror okay no was a full
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coat world and I spent six months doing
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this even my mentor Harold Bloom you
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said to me you're wasting your time okay
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you're wasting your time this is this
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was the attitude of the senior
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professors yeah you're right you're
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wasting your time to try to reform the
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Academy okay right so the entire
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professorial okay the Liberals and the
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Conservatives ignored this
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can this thing it's gonna go away it's
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gonna go away well no it didn't UK
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because once the job we want to let you
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know the body fell out of the job market
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for in 1970s suddenly you had the system
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okay where you have you know essentially
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a system of servitude where a young
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faculty members have got to talk the
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talk okay I've got to show okay that
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same that they believe in the same
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things that their superiors right now
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you know where I really noticed the
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drop-off and quality of scholarship was
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when I was doing glittering images my
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last book which came out five years ago
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okay so for that I chose like you know I
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it was like some of the 29 works of art
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whatever okay and for each each work I
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ended up with I read through all of the
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available scholarship and writing
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comments Haryana okay so I would begin
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chronologically and I would work through
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okay at or to the present every single
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case okay
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oh my god it was so obvious okay my
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great period is that of the late 19th
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century into the mid 20th century the
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great period of German philology in
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British classical scholarship which had
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like a great woman Jane Harrison won one
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of the you know important figures of the
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Cambridge School of anthropology and so
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on I love that period I love the
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wonderful lucidity of the prose of those
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great British classicists of the first
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part over the you know of the 20th
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century and so on okay so that's my
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period so I went into wouldn't we knew
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anything about that for you know for the
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older works of our my goodness okay
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the incredible you know depth of and
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breadth of the air you dition and the
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ability to articulate you to use as
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graceful English that has that has
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lasted Tuesday alright so I wouldn't
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move through and without fail in every
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single case okay by the time I mean the
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last thing worth reading okay in art
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history you know about anything okay
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it's like it's like the 1960s okay the
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70s okay it starts to weaken by the 80s
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that you know the horror of post
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structuralism has has set in okay and by
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the ninety it's a complete crap you
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cannot believe the books that are
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published and you know it's open know
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there will be books okay there are good
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quality scholarship in a very narrow
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area you you will find good monographs
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that by specialists okay in this last
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period but the entire broad learning the
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broad vision that you need to be an
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undergraduate teacher and I point out
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okay that's what you absolutely you need
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the big trans historical vision okay the
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whole but no no no the narrative of art
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history is now declared specious okay so
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couldn't that now we have this new
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things things like new New Historicism
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where you take like a little thing here
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you just choose one thing at random here
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choose one thing at random here
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one thing you random there and then you
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mix them all together and you make some
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a few clever gestures toward it and
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that's your form of oh it's fraud an
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absolute fraud okay alright until you
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know what they've abandoned they've
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abandoned the great those great survey
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courses the art history survey courses
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first semester you know Stone Age that
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you know happened I'm going half way all
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the way down second semester to
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modernism to Abstract Expressionism and
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so on
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they've abandoned that okay all right
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it's considered naive too naive for our
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super sophisticated post-structuralist
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okay you're saying oh no we don't want
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to do that okay
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all right please all right so what we
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want to do is our narrow little
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specialty areas like that so you can't
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even find faculty members who you know
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young faculty who are trained to think
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in these great historical periods like
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that so what's the end result is that
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students have absolutely no historical
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sense whatever okay they're in it we
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reflected with what's called present ISM
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okay that is this focus on the present I
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mean I'm always complaining like Susan
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Sontag you know I always say Susan
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Sontag knew nothing before the
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Enlightenment that's it's okay but
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post-enlightenment fine okay post-french
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revolution better okay but she had no
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broad vision of anything the old the old
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universal scholarship or the aspiration
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toward universal scholarship is
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completely gone this is ridiculous it's
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absolutely ridiculous right I mean
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that's those survey courses in the
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timeline the timeline of it is very
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helpful to young people to get a sense
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of human history okay all right so
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that's another reason why young people
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get so upset by current politics okay
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it's because they have no sense that you
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know you know what the history of the
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world has been Empire is rising
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empires falling nothing but ruins and
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this huge cycle of things happening and
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so an election that happens in a
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temporary election it's not the end of
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the world it's not the apocalypse okay
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regroup and try again hello okay all
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right yeah yeah everyone says oh no
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there's nothing but the present nothing
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or or or more speak more spacious okay
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is like once there was a utopia in fact
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everywhere but here everyone but here in
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America is a utopia okay and therefore
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there are there are problems with
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America okay hello okay the no say the
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horrors of history have been totally
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hidden from from young people do you
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know that yes the banality of public
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school education today absolute
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emptiness okay sorry I don't I'm gonna
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definitely all right so the banality
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okay did this picture of human life
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everyone nice very nice Ness okay is the
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answer in the public schools you get no
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bullying okay alright let's treat
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everyone nice be actually open and
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tolerant make never make any judgments
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etc but the actual hard facts of human
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history and world geography and my point
00:19:46
out all right they know nothing they
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know nothing okay all right
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I think me and Ivan a good position you
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seem to judge this because I am NOT
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teaching X hen okay I am NOT just from
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teaching thank God I'm not teaching at
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any of the big elite schools where they
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get the you know the feeders coming from
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all the private schools and the best
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suburban school so they're getting the
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best of the best of the brightest of
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eager beaver's everyone perfect everyone
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but they're very good you know it all
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that and say no I'm getting like
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aspiring artists who come from a huge
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variety of educational backgrounds so I
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have people from good suburban school
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districts I also have you know you know
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people from inner city brilliant dancers
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jazz musicians and so on I have people
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from farms you know in North Carolina
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and so on okay so I'm able to judge the
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general degeneration
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okay of American public school education
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and I'm able to compare it with to
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contrast it with the European public
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school education okay so when I go to
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Europe there's a sense of general
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cultural now I don't
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like you know enshrine Europe you know
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III think we're far more open in society
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than the Europe is nevertheless the
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level of education okay of general
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cultural education that is that a
00:21:01
standard for India in Europe okay it
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puts to shame what's happening in the
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United States okay alright the students
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know absolutely nothing okay I mean I
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mean literally nothing I'm sorry I
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remember standing on this stage of made
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from one from one of my books and and
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talking about the you know my shock when
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let me just tell that story okay and
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it's getting it's getting worse
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this happened making out maybe fifteen
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years ago I have a course which I
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invented called the art of song lyrics
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and I have a section of the course
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that's on the great Negro spirituals of
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the late 19th century okay so I was I
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was new and one of my favorite ones for
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them and go down Moses okay and which
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I've done many times so I give him the
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lyric we listen to it you talk about the
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lyric and then we you know listen to it
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again
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okay so one that's one case like a one
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you know I was going on and on I thought
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I was feeling something something's
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wrong I could tell I wasn't
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communicating and I didn't know why why
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and it suddenly hit me to my heart they
00:22:03
did not recognize the name Moses okay
00:22:08
and that's what's happened secular
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humanism is a big bust I'm telling you
00:22:12
now okay alright because with me if you
00:22:15
take religion away and politics becomes
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a religion okay
00:22:19
dogma becomes comes a religion and
00:22:22
that's what's happened okay all these
00:22:23
enlightened parents want to to raise
00:22:25
their children without any you know
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religious contacts and the end result is
00:22:30
inability to recognize the great myths
00:22:33
you know the great stories the great
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legends of the West
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okay so that was very disturbing but
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then I recently in the past fall I you
00:22:42
know and I you know I was normally you
00:22:45
know I'm talking I'm talking I'm talking
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to the class I'm always reading you know
00:22:48
their faces and so on and I suddenly had
00:22:51
this sense that's not the terror class
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but a good proportion of the class was
00:22:59
not recognizing the name Hitler
00:23:04
okay
00:23:05
and I thought afterward why should they
00:23:09
why should they think of it these are
00:23:11
kids born 1718 years ago right okay so
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we're talking about the turn of the
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century Hitler for them 30s and 40s that
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would be like World War one for me who
00:23:23
grew up you know after world war ii and
00:23:25
way and we didn't we know nothing about
00:23:27
World War one so why should they know
00:23:30
about Hitler okay but you know excuse me
00:23:35
okay this is like should be the basic
00:23:37
knowledge but the public schools don't
00:23:40
want to teach that because that would be
00:23:41
upsetting they don't want it you don't
00:23:43
want to ever upset young people no we
00:23:45
don't like to upset them with anything
00:23:46
so we'll have happy talk okay in the
00:23:48
school about the universally you know
00:23:50
universal benevolence of mankind not a
00:23:53
good idea okay my view I I think
00:23:56
students should be exposed to the
00:23:58
horrors of history okay okay and to the
00:24:00
disasters of history I think it's
00:24:02
exactly what they need
00:24:03
okay and so the people wonder how do we
00:24:05
get this snowflake generation where they
00:24:06
can't tolerate anything it's because of
00:24:08
the again the pablum that they're being
00:24:10
taught at the public school level okay
00:24:12
all right it's an entire system that now
00:24:14
is devoted to like grinding everything
00:24:17
down into gruel okay we don't want to
00:24:20
offend anyone okay all right so I'm
00:24:23
always saying you know my prescription
00:24:25
for education always is start in the
00:24:27
most distant pink antiquity in case they
00:24:30
love the stories of ancient Egypt and so
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on show the great empires you know with
00:24:36
all the artworks and mean everything and
00:24:38
talk about the great trajectories you
00:24:40
know of history and I and I've also been
00:24:42
saying and I'm an atheist I've been
00:24:44
saying are the best multiculturalism the
00:24:48
optimal one it puts comparative religion
00:24:51
the world great world religions at the
00:24:53
center I have been saying that for 25
00:24:55
years that's you know that to the true
00:24:59
world understanding will only come from
00:25:01
an exploration of the religious
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background you know of the peoples of
00:25:05
the world that's the you know the main
00:25:07
texts the main belief systems that the
00:25:09
holy spots the your the artifacts they
00:25:11
it's a great the great you know
00:25:13
interdisciplinary way
00:25:14
to teach culture ok invite me by talking
00:25:17
about you because because that oh
00:25:18
nothing I'm always saying is that that
00:25:20
was actually the essence of the 1960s
00:25:22
that's been lost until one of those
00:25:24
essays that I was hoping to finally get
00:25:26
out front and one be cool next year now
00:25:27
is this essay I wrote and it's now G was
00:25:31
my probably 2003 when the last when it
00:25:33
was published and it's called cults and
00:25:36
cosmic consciousness the religious
00:25:39
vision of the American 1960s which has
00:25:42
been completely forgotten all people
00:25:44
look back and all they see is the
00:25:45
politics of the 60s they don't see the
00:25:47
cosmic perspective okay and the way the
00:25:50
whole generation turned away from the
00:25:53
career system turned away from
00:25:54
materialism okay and sought spiritual
00:25:57
enlightenment
00:25:58
alright that was bigger than politics
00:26:00
okay all right so what's happened that's
00:26:01
all that's left in the 60s is this idea
00:26:04
of social reform which is very important
00:26:06
okay but that's not the whole of human
00:26:08
life if you for people who are not
00:26:09
religious or come from a secular home
00:26:11
they don't have any of this the
00:26:13
metaphysics okay of the cosmic vision
00:26:15
okay so that's why I think teaching
00:26:17
religion is a very good idea it and by
00:26:20
the way if that if if my prescription
00:26:22
had been adopted we wouldn't have all
00:26:24
this chaos and confusion about Islam
00:26:27
today people would know about it they
00:26:29
would know the holy texts and be able to
00:26:31
talk about it you know yeah
00:26:33
contradictions in the text or this group
00:26:35
follows this part or this group calls
00:26:36
that part okay so everybody is like you
00:26:38
talking in this blank zone of total lack
00:26:42
of knowledge of these very passionate
00:26:44
belief systems that are out there okay
00:26:46
and I'm always warning I've been warning
00:26:48
for years okay that the West should not
00:26:51
repeat the mistake of the Roman Empire
00:26:53
okay you know the Roman Empire got very
00:26:56
comfortable and tolerant in his late
00:26:59
phases I mean very sophisticated they
00:27:02
open to homosexuality into all you know
00:27:04
all kinds of things you're very except
00:27:06
and and there was nothing there was
00:27:07
nothing at the heart of it okay there
00:27:09
was there was no passionate belief at
00:27:11
the heart of Imperial Roman culture
00:27:13
except political power you know by by
00:27:15
Rome itself right so into that vacuum
00:27:17
what came hello class what came from
00:27:20
Palestine okay this you this of two very
00:27:23
passionate belief system right Chris
00:27:26
Jannetty okay came and spread because of
00:27:29
the hollowness of that very tolerant
00:27:32
secular lifestyle of Imperial Rome and
00:27:34
here we are two thousand years later and
00:27:36
Christianity is thriving so well I'm
00:27:38
always warning okay you know if you have
00:27:40
if you believe in nothing okay
00:27:42
nothing but a certain comfort level and
00:27:45
you're tolerant to everything and
00:27:47
there's a system out there that is
00:27:49
passionate and militants okay it's the
00:27:52
passion okay
00:27:53
the belief system you know that is
00:27:55
passionate that's core there's going to
00:27:56
win so I'm warning so for me the remedy
00:28:00
is always education better education
00:28:02
broader education deeper education okay
00:28:05
and anyway okay now what else okay right
00:28:09
which I was telling you okay don't just
00:28:12
put together the book okay and you know
00:28:15
there are things in here in the book
00:28:17
okay which some things people would know
00:28:19
but other things I've been writing in
00:28:21
the last few years
00:28:22
okay you know for like for like Time
00:28:23
magazine and so on op eds
00:28:25
and one in particular your issue that
00:28:28
that nobody is talking about but me
00:28:29
apparently is this stupid age 21 law
00:28:33
okay that there was passed you know in
00:28:35
the in the mid 1980s were young people
00:28:38
in America I can't go out and buy a beer
00:28:40
okay alright if they have to in
00:28:42
meanwhile okay what did that well in
00:28:44
what did that / - you know the only
00:28:46
countries in the world that have a
00:28:48
strict a rule about that are very
00:28:51
repressive Muslim regimes and Qatar and
00:28:54
so on all right
00:28:55
I mean that in Europe young people can
00:28:57
buy alcohol they're 1415 they learn how
00:29:00
to drink right now the disastrous
00:29:02
cultural effects of that law I point out
00:29:06
okay is that is once young people in
00:29:10
college could go men and women could go
00:29:13
to a bar sit at a table in a public
00:29:17
place over a cheap beer and flirt with
00:29:20
each other learn how to converse in
00:29:22
adult context in a protected zone what
00:29:24
happened the minute that law happened
00:29:26
you know Mothers Against Drunk Driving
00:29:28
we married your own business is what I
00:29:30
glad I say to them okay I mean all right
00:29:32
so what was the end result okay the
00:29:35
fraternity parties keg parties okay I'm
00:29:38
fistic ated elfish Dionysian routes okay
00:29:42
that's what happens okay big kid now
00:29:45
they're all drinking like this and so on
00:29:47
what kind of conversation what kind of
00:29:49
sophistication are you gonna get at a
00:29:51
noisy fraternity party okay the whole
00:29:53
art of conversation of flirting gone
00:29:56
immediately what happened in the 80s the
00:29:59
date-rape furor started immediately all
00:30:02
of a sudden by the late 80s you're
00:30:04
getting all this confusion okay wait
00:30:08
wait do it again do it again
00:30:09
how many minutes oh three minutes all
00:30:11
right okay all right all right
00:30:13
so I say no don't it's gonna be the Q&A
00:30:16
don't okay so I say okay all right this
00:30:20
is redic young people need okay to you
00:30:25
know step over into delirium in some way
00:30:28
okay and so what you'd be again getting
00:30:31
the pills okay all right right
00:30:33
Molly all that stuff okay things from
00:30:35
off the streets okay they're all
00:30:37
wonderful okay that was that's a big
00:30:39
improvement okay all right you start
00:30:41
getting the raves and so on pencil the
00:30:43
brains our pickles from that crack
00:30:44
what's wrong with alcohol it goes back
00:30:46
thousands of years
00:30:48
okay beer wine and not today your
00:30:51
margaritas
00:30:52
it's a scotch and sodas whiskey sours
00:30:56
and so on all right all right and
00:30:59
another thing you know you like you get
00:31:01
drunk it's too much okay
00:31:04
you know you don't want to hunter goal
00:31:05
you know bottle of tequila okay but what
00:31:07
I'm saying is there's a hangover it goes
00:31:09
okay all that other crap stays in the
00:31:12
brain okay the kids are great their
00:31:14
brains are pickled from all that stuff
00:31:16
and now adding with the antidepressants
00:31:18
you know the entire professional class
00:31:19
of Manhattan is on all this
00:31:20
antidepressants go get a beer okay is
00:31:24
what I say
00:31:25
yeah I can remember okay you know and I
00:31:29
was recently I was looking at say like
00:31:32
this 1940s movies and I would see like
00:31:34
the men would go into the bar to have a
00:31:36
beer and it'll be like little 6 ounce
00:31:38
glasses 6 ounce and that's what we had
00:31:40
in college so I actually went on Amazon
00:31:42
and I found them okay I found the 6
00:31:45
ounce glass and I thought this is great
00:31:46
ok because you know you know today with
00:31:48
the mugs they give you a big mug hope I
00:31:50
could turn you to half way it's warm who
00:31:52
wants the warm half of the so if you
00:31:54
have the six ounces okay you keep
00:31:56
getting the nice frothy you know nice
00:31:58
cold beer and so I thought let's go back
00:31:59
to the six ounces that that's what we
00:32:01
had you know in college right and so
00:32:03
that's how young people learn to be
00:32:06
adults okay and actually you know wrote
00:32:10
this one of my my gate engage students
00:32:13
said to me how he lamented the that
00:32:17
particular law okay because he said in
00:32:19
the old days he said obviously older gay
00:32:22
men okay were you know a great help you
00:32:25
know to the younger gay men the younger
00:32:27
gay men learned about gay culture
00:32:29
through conversations in bars now you
00:32:32
know he said young gay men that here's
00:32:34
here is in the gate the gate overheard
00:32:36
you know that in the gay district is
00:32:38
where my university is and so on and and
00:32:40
to get sex or to or to flirt with anyone
00:32:43
it's being done on tinder right
00:32:45
all of a sudden you're like you're
00:32:46
matching up to have sex okay in but
00:32:49
there's no conversation okay
00:32:50
conversation is gone now that is a
00:32:52
cultural disaster okay to to Americans
00:32:55
young people not to have environments
00:32:59
adult environments where you can just
00:33:01
take the edge off with a little alcohol
00:33:02
okay and converse okay in a rational way
00:33:05
okay it's going on all the time that's
00:33:07
one for heaven's sakes existentialism
00:33:09
you know all those things began in
00:33:11
Parisian you know places are people are
00:33:13
drinking a glass of wine etc so it again
00:33:15
to provincialism of our culture okay I
00:33:18
want that rule ok abolish it's they're
00:33:22
selling marijuana in Colorado okay and
00:33:24
you can't get it and young people can't
00:33:25
walk into a bar here in Philadelphia
00:33:27
it's outrageous I want you to be
00:33:29
outraged
00:33:30
all right okay anyway
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