Miraculous Ladybug Is Kind Of Sexist

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Summary

TLDRVideo käsitleb "Miraculous Ladybug" telesaate võimalikke seksistlikke elemente, väites, et hoolimata naispeategelase kangelaslikust kujutamisest, esinevad saates mitmed aegunud stereotüübid. Marinette on küll tugev ja sõltumatu, kuid tema tegelaskuju keskmes on liigne romantiline huvi Adrieni vastu. Samas Adrieni arengut käsitletakse mitmekesisemalt ja sõltumatult tema romantilisest huvialast. Lisaks käsitletakse nais- ja meesnegatiivseid tegelasi erinevalt, kusjuures meestegelaste lunastamine näidatakse positiivselt, samas kui nais antagonistid saavad karmima kohtlemise. Autor tõstatab küsimusi, kas selline lähenemine on tegelikult progressiivne või sisaldab see seksistlikke troppe, mis võivad kahandada saatega seotud positiivseid sõnumeid tüdrukute võimestamise kohta.

Takeaways

  • 🔥 Marinette kui juhtiv kangelane saadet inspireerida.
  • 💔 Romantiline kinnisidee Adrieni vastu nõrgestab Marinette iseloomu.
  • ⚔️ Naistegelaste vahelised konfliktid keerlevad sageli armurivaali ümber.
  • 😕 Negatiivsete karakterite erinev käitlemine sugude põhjal.
  • 🔄 Meestegelastele antakse viimasel hetkel lunastust.
  • 🤔 Autor kahtleb, kas saade on tõesti progressiivne.
  • 🔍 Võimalikud vanad seksistlikud tropid saates.
  • 🎬 Vastuseis naistegelaste armudraamale.
  • 🧩 Adrieni areng on sügavam võrreldes Marinette'ga.
  • 🤷‍♀️ Autor kutsub vaatajaid jagama oma mõtteid ja arvamusi.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    奇迹是一部带有女权色彩的节目，主角Marinette化身为Ladybug。这个节目强调女孩可以独立且有力量，不需要依赖男人。剧中，Marinette从一个软弱的角色成长为有信心的领导者，然而节目过多地将焦点放在浪漫方面，尤其是Marinette对Adrian的痴迷，使她的角色发展依赖于一个男孩，显得不够进步且单薄。

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Marinette与其他主要女性角色之间的竞争似乎主要围绕着对Adrian的感情，这显得老套和不够创新。节目中男性角色，如Gabe和Andre，即便有不可取的行为，却在故事中获得了一定的宽容或者最后的‘救赎’，而女性反派角色则常常没有这种待遇，显得不公。

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:22

    节目在处理男性与女性反派角色方面存在偏差，彰显了某种刻板印象，即男性角色即便有缺陷，也可能最终被赋予同情和理解，而女性角色则被全然贬低，没有赎罪的余地。这种双重标准的问题在鼓励年轻女性自立的节目中显得尤为突出。

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Video Q&A

  • Mis on video peamine teema?

    Video käsitleb "Miraculous Ladybug" telesaate võimalikke seksistlikke elemente.

  • Kuidas on naistegelaste käitumine saates esile toodud?

    Naistegelaste käitumine keskendub peamiselt romantilistele suhetele ja ühe mehe tähelepanu võitmisele, mis võib tunduda tagasihoidlik ja stereotüüpne.

  • Millised on autori peamised probleemid saatega?

    Autor kritiseerib saadet naistegelaste liialdatud romantilise kinnisidee, meeste ja naistegelaste erineva kohtlemise ning seksistlike tropide tõttu.

  • Kuidas "Miraculous Ladybug" peategelaste arengut võrreldakse?

    Marinette, naispeategelase, areng on tihedalt seotud romantilise huviga, samas kui Adrieni, meespeategelase, areng on mitmekülgsem.

  • Kuidas võimutavad negatiivsed tegelased erinevalt?

    Meespeategelased saavad näiliselt andeksandmise ja näidatakse pehmete ja lunastust vääritena, samas kui naispeategelased saavad karmima karistuse ja nende lunastamist ei käsitleta.

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    so is miraculous kind of sexist to
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    anybody else like yeah just a general
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    question and my goodness I know this is
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    already a bit of a spicy question to ask
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    and probably a spicy opinion to hold I
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    kind of think it is or at least I think
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    it sort of is in some regards now
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    obviously the intention behind the show
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    itself is largely uplifting and an
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    inspiring girl power type of story where
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    Marinette ladybug is the main hero of
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    the tale don't let the title fool you
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    this is not the tales of cat Noir it's
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    the tales of ladybug nobody's shortening
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    the title to miraculous cat Noir are
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    they they shorten it to miraculous
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    ladybug she's the main character and
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    that's all you need to know really it's
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    simply how the show's framed and on the
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    surface I think it actually does send
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    quite an empowering message right that
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    the hero doesn't always need to be a man
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    that girls can be independent and strong
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    and can lead and they get the job done
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    for themselves and through the vessel of
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    Marinette we do see this play out on
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    screen when we first meet her she's
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    rather Meek and scared and just not a
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    very heroic or exciting character at
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    least that that's what she's like at the
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    start of the timeline when you put those
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    episodes in chronological order but
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    after she's chosen by masterfood to
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    become the next winner of the miraculous
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    all because of her selfless kindness she
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    begins to develop far more as a
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    character she becomes self-confident a
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    self-assured hero she leads the duo to
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    Victory many times she's not the Damsel
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    in Distress she's not some weakling that
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    can't do anything right she's the one
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    that in the overwhelming majority of
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    episodes comes up with the winning
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    strategy that defeats the villain and
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    gets the Akuma and also in the majority
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    of the episode she's also just straight
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    up the person that does the most work
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    within the winning strategy whilst cat
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    Noir kind of awkwardly shuffles off to
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    the side or gets defeated you know as is
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    tradition on top of that over the course
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    of the show it's Marinette that's chosen
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    to be trained by Foo and set up to be
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    the future Guardian to replace him at
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    the end of season three and it's her
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    that leads the team of Heroes she's in
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    charge she's trusted to know all of the
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    identities except for cat noirs and hand
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    out the miraculous to whom she will and
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    really she's just the main leader in the
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    effort to defeat hawkmoth or Shadow moth
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    or Monarch whatever you want to call him
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    old smooth brain Gabe himself and so
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    yeah in that regard I do think the show
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    was a bit of a breath of fresh air a new
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    era so to speak a bit more Progressive
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    than some shows have been in the past
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    but that's just the obvious thing right
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    oh yes the girl is the main hero it's a
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    step in the right direction but at the
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    same time the show for me at least still
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    comes across as really sus when you
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    compare it to a bunch of other shows of
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    this era and indeed past eras and there
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    are a few ways in which I've noticed
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    this but for starters we can start with
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    the hyper fixation on romance or rather
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    the hyper fixation of the story to have
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    all the main lead girls just thirst over
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    this one dude driving most of the drama
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    and the story development and this is
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    pretty much the exclusion of all else
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    and so yes I'm talking about the thirst
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    for Adrian because when you think about
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    Marinette what is the main goal in her
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    life that comes to mind that you see
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    across all of the seasons of the show
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    and if you've not said managed to win in
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    Adrian's heart then I'm sorry you are
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    the weakest link goodbye pretty much
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    every episode you'll ever see you'll
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    have this Force its way into the story
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    in some regard and it never really
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    changes even when she dates Luca it's
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    very brief and then she's just back at
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    it again her whole identity changes she
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    goes from the self-assured leader of her
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    friend group to a complete creepazoid
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    and with a flip of a coin pretty much
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    her whole identity revolves around this
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    one dude and if you strip it away she no
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    longer has any real story Beyond
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    fighting Gabe which is not enough if you
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    ask me for a well-rounded character let
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    alone you protagonist even her
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    interactions with her friends over time
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    largely become colored by this Obsession
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    all of their schemes and their
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    discussions to try and get her in with
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    Adrian it's fine for a sometimes
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    storyline as I know real friendships do
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    have these sort of discussions but like
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    it's such a dominant force in the story
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    that I do think it actually actively
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    harms Marinette as a character or at
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    least it did in early Seasons especially
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    it makes her whole Arc dependent on this
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    one guy which doesn't feel very
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    Progressive to me I mean I'm not against
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    romance and I do think it has a place in
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    the story but the way it's framed is
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    just very odd to me I mean it even
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    spills over into a number of the other
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    main characters and their relationships
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    with Marinette our main hero take Lila
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    for example she's pretty much being set
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    up as the main villain of the show's
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    next big Saga she's replacing Gabe and
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    she's getting her hands on the
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    miraculous of the butterfly and so
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    clearly she needed a reason to go up
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    against Marinette it just makes sense to
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    have them at odds right to build up this
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    rivalry whilst you can before Lila goes
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    off through Hawk moth and kind of has to
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    be in the shadows by necessity and how
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    is it do you think they built up this
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    Grand rivalry how do you think they did
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    it that's right they had Marinette get
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    massively and irrationally jealous at
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    Lila trying to crack onto Adrian that's
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    how that is the entire story of why they
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    hate each other what will turn out to be
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    a multi-season clash between these two
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    characters boils down into an attempted
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    tug of war over Adrian's affections
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    which oh I don't know it kind of worked
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    at First until it basically just
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    consumed their whole storyline even
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    beyond the point of reason because after
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    Adrian has given Lila the proverbial
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    middle finger she's still trying to
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    manipulate her way in to getting with
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    this dude she pretty much swears a blood
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    Feud against Marinette for all time
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    because she was blocked that one
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    time like she straight up tries to ruin
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    this girl's life same with Chloe yeah
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    there's the pre-built history with Chloe
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    and Marinette but the reality that in
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    practice many of their conflicts simply
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    boil down to jealousy and competition
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    About a Boy even late into the game
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    where once again Adrian has told Chloe
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    where to shove it she's still trying to
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    get in she's still trying to manipulate
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    him to get him away from Marinette and I
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    don't know I do think it makes him seem
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    like weaker characters it feels lazy and
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    contrived in falling into a lot of those
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    old tropes that we probably want to get
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    away from I mean I don't think they're
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    overtly trying to be sexist or
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    misogynistic or anything like that but
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    it certainly seems quite regressive live
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    to have so many of the prominent female
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    cast members your main protagonist two
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    of your major antagonists Al kagami's
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    whole vibe was about Adrian and then she
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    switches to Felix who conveniently looks
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    exactly like Adrian but yeah they become
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    rabid dogs when they're confronted with
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    this handsome boy they lose all sense of
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    character and they fight it out a bunch
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    of animals trying to get the last link
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    of sausages it's especially hard to take
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    Marinette your main protagonist
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    seriously as a result of all this her
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    thirsty Shenanigans go way too far and
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    it becomes weird and the problem is it's
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    not a reciprocal thing take a look at
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    Adrian in his storyline yes obviously
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    there's still the obsession with ladybug
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    and all of that but it's not in the same
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    way it's much reduced and it doesn't
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    Define his relationships with pretty
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    much every other character because there
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    are major facets to historian
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    personality and interpersonal
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    relationships that develop independently
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    of ladybug like his friendships with the
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    various Side characters kagami Luca Nino
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    his bond with plague Natalie being a
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    surrogate mother foreign his stormy and
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    abusive relationship with Gabe and all
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    that entails hell even the development
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    of his relationship with Marinette
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    because like I said that's a new thing
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    he doesn't know that marinette's ladybug
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    so it's a different relationship and
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    that for him from his point of view
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    develops naturally and healthily and
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    only after that does that all twist
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    together his story develops into it it's
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    not the only facet of his personality
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    that is so much depth he's a character
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    that does not live solely to play out
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    his obsession with his romantic interest
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    and instead he has much more of a life
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    and personality outside of that it's
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    just the difference in the way that the
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    story deals with both their arcs that I
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    do find really astounding and really
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    regressive oh and on top of that can I
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    remind anybody how they frame the
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    rejection of cat Noir by ladybug over
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    and over again how that's treated by the
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    story is treated as a massive negative
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    plague yells at ladybug about it saying
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    that she should be grateful for having
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    someone love her so much the sad music
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    playing over and over again every time
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    he's rejected and gets sad Captain wants
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    gets angsty ladybug apologizes for
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    hurting his feelings imagine that the
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    rejected man who can't accept a no is
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    treated by The Narrative by the story by
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    the writers as the victim whilst the
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    woman who does the right thing and tells
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    him no and won't accept his romantic
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    affection and all the while makes it
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    very clear to him that she's not trying
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    to lead him on before exercising her
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    right to feel safe and avoid his overly
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    creepy ways is considered to be a shrew
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    to be cruel a heartbreaker that's
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    straight out of the Nice Guy's subreddit
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    but that's not all and I would argue
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    that this next one is probably the worst
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    of it it's how the show frames the arcs
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    of his villains and the different way it
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    wants you to view villainous male
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    characters versus villainous female
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    characters look Gabe's a massive piece
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    of and you can't possibly try to
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    deny that fact it's just how it is he
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    abuses his son and random other children
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    and really anyone and is willing to
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    sacrifice everybody in the world and
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    anything in the world in pursuit of his
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    selfish desire of bringing him his wife
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    back to life even though on real talk
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    let's be honest she played with who I
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    actually got burned that was the price
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    she paid to have a kid too bad and it
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    was one that she actually seemed to have
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    long since accepted so he goes against
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    her dying wishes and he does heinous
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    to her only child but at the last
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    second he changes his mind and decides
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    to be a good person like he gets a
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    literal last second Redemption and then
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    he's remembered as a tragic hero what
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    he's a piece of trash but the show is
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    framing him as a hero at the end what
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    next up look at Andre he's also up there
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    for worst father in the franchise he
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    bows down to the every whim of his
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    abusive and narcissistic wife allowing
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    his daughter to become just as twisted
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    and indeed he engages in a ton of
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    shady and corrupt dealings himself and
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    at the end of all of that he ditches his
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    daughter whom he mostly raised himself
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    and considers her a lost cause with the
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    show suddenly painting this dude as a
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    victim and a hero for letting Chloe have
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    it for tearing her apart verbally and
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    abandoning her to be raised by his wife
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    his truly terrible horrible abusive wife
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    sure yeah I guess he's a hero then isn't
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    he so now we have two undeserved I'd
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    argue Redemption asks for the major male
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    antagonists well just another comparison
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    Felix in his intro does he not assault
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    Marinette or at least harass her quite
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    badly that ain't good and he Slaughters
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    the entire planet because he has daddy
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    issues and existential issues but at no
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    point beyond that brief intro do I think
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    this story ever really frames him as a
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    villain no he's an anti-hero a bit of a
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    badass who yeah he makes some mistakes
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    but it's all good because he's a soft
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    boy at heart and he gets done come
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    on now but what about the ladies what do
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    they get any redemption in sight well we
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    have Natalie and she does get a pretty
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    good Redemption Arc this one that
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    actually feels the most earned because
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    she doesn't just suddenly get the
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    Redemption Arc out of nowhere she gets
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    sick trying to help Gabe because I think
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    on one hand she loves him two on one
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    hand she was very close to Emily and
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    three she loves Adrian so much and wants
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    him to have his mother back but then she
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    gets sick she see Gabe's going crazy and
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    then he's abusing Adrian way too hard
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    and so she tries to change things decent
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    enough well written I think but then who
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    are our other female villains three
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    truly terrible characters who show No
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    Remorse at all no goodness and by the
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    end there's no real positive qualities
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    we're talking Chloe we're talking Lila
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    we're talking Audrey Audrey especially
  • 00:11:30
    is blamed for everything that Andre has
  • 00:11:33
    ever done obviously she must have lured
  • 00:11:35
    the poor innocent man in with her
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    terrible womanly wiles and corrupted him
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    making him give up on his filmmaking
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    dreams to become a businessman and a
  • 00:11:43
    politician it really is like some made
  • 00:11:45
    up red pill Reddit storyline on top of
  • 00:11:48
    that she has an affair baby whom Saint
  • 00:11:50
    Andre adopts at the end out of nowhere
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    yikes so she's just the worst piece of
  • 00:11:56
    shitty trash a terrible woman the worst
  • 00:11:58
    one imaginable No Redemption No Remorse
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    no positive qualities at all just rage
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    and hate and cruelty and he is our
  • 00:12:05
    little cream puff sweetheart who was led
  • 00:12:08
    astray by the power of Snooze new cringe
  • 00:12:10
    and then there's Lila who's being set up
  • 00:12:12
    to be the next big villain to replace
  • 00:12:14
    Gabe and I would be very shocked based
  • 00:12:16
    on the trajectory of her character if
  • 00:12:18
    she ever gets the same treatment Escape
  • 00:12:19
    where the writers try to make you
  • 00:12:21
    understand the point of view that she
  • 00:12:23
    has and then give a bit of a positive
  • 00:12:24
    spin on them from time to time like Gabe
  • 00:12:27
    and his pancakes Arc and the fact that
  • 00:12:29
    he really does love his wife and does
  • 00:12:31
    love his son to some extent and then we
  • 00:12:33
    move on to the Arc of Chloe Who develops
  • 00:12:35
    over the early Seasons into a sort of
  • 00:12:37
    hero only to regress and regress really
  • 00:12:40
    hard and become even worse than she ever
  • 00:12:42
    was before and then on top of that they
  • 00:12:43
    add new new flashback episodes that
  • 00:12:46
    paint her as even worse than she was in
  • 00:12:48
    season one through three so she goes
  • 00:12:50
    from entitled bully to raging
  • 00:12:53
    Audrey Jr in every single way her
  • 00:12:55
    sympathetic relationship with her
  • 00:12:56
    abusive mum it's washed away because now
  • 00:12:59
    she's simply always been an awful person
  • 00:13:01
    and then she gets that extreme Cosmic
  • 00:13:04
    punishment from on high as she loses
  • 00:13:06
    everything her only friends her home her
  • 00:13:09
    father's love all of it feels like the
  • 00:13:11
    writers are getting some sort of sick
  • 00:13:13
    gratification out of writing the
  • 00:13:15
    breakdown of a teenage girl it's a yikes
  • 00:13:17
    from me dog but no I very much doubt
  • 00:13:20
    they're going to give her the last
  • 00:13:21
    second Redemption where she apologizes
  • 00:13:23
    and realize she was wrong she's gonna go
  • 00:13:24
    down with no regrets the only reason she
  • 00:13:27
    might be remorseful is that she didn't
  • 00:13:29
    manage to destroy marinette's life and
  • 00:13:31
    that's not to mention kagami's mum who
  • 00:13:34
    seems good for now right oh she's had a
  • 00:13:36
    Redemption but she's doing all this good
  • 00:13:38
    stuff no she came across as really
  • 00:13:40
    terrible in the show and it's very
  • 00:13:42
    obvious she's being set up to do some
  • 00:13:43
    more terrible once the story
  • 00:13:45
    continues her out of the blue change of
  • 00:13:47
    heart very much feels like and
  • 00:13:49
    I doubt there's going to be the same
  • 00:13:50
    level of sympathy that's applied to her
  • 00:13:52
    story as games either I'm happy to be
  • 00:13:54
    wrong but I'm not convinced I mean
  • 00:13:57
    yeah it's not necessarily bad riding
  • 00:13:59
    right it's pretty generic in 2D at times
  • 00:14:02
    but it wouldn't bother me if it was
  • 00:14:04
    consistent if Gabe and Andre and Felix
  • 00:14:08
    they were all treated as badly as these
  • 00:14:10
    ladies are but they aren't they get to
  • 00:14:13
    change they get people to trust them
  • 00:14:15
    they get people to believe in them
  • 00:14:17
    whereas the opposite is not true for the
  • 00:14:19
    female characters and to me it just
  • 00:14:21
    plays into so many bad tropes that I do
  • 00:14:24
    not think have a place in a show that
  • 00:14:25
    aims to empower young girls EG that
  • 00:14:28
    abusive men which all three of these
  • 00:14:30
    guys are to some extent can be fixed or
  • 00:14:34
    misunderstood and need guidance and can
  • 00:14:36
    earn Redemption because under it all
  • 00:14:38
    they're just soft boys who need love
  • 00:14:40
    yikes no thanks and meanwhile bad women
  • 00:14:45
    they're the source of all evil we need
  • 00:14:47
    to burn them at the stake we need to see
  • 00:14:49
    their lives fall apart in great detail
  • 00:14:51
    we need the karmic Justice to slap these
  • 00:14:54
    in the face no mercy no
  • 00:14:57
    forgiveness yikes yikes yikes red flags
  • 00:15:00
    everywhere no thank you and so yeah
  • 00:15:03
    that's all I've got for you today so
  • 00:15:05
    with all that being said I think I'll
  • 00:15:07
    leave things here and say these have
  • 00:15:08
    been my opinions and now I'd like to
  • 00:15:10
    hear yours what do you think about all
  • 00:15:11
    this do you agree with me disagree am I
  • 00:15:14
    reading too much into things I'm really
  • 00:15:16
    curious for your thoughts so make sure
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    to like comment subscribe and let me
  • 00:15:19
    know
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