AI and Your Education featuring Dr. Andrew Shean
摘要
TLDRIn a Facebook Live session, hosts Jess and Lauren, along with guest Dr. Andy Sheen, discuss the growing role of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in education. They underline how AI can serve as a personalized tutoring tool, providing support and feedback around the clock. AI has potential to democratize education by offering resources that were traditionally accessible only to those who could afford them. The conversation explores AI as a partner in enhancing learning through writing assistance, critical thinking, and curiosity-driven exploration. However, the speakers caution against using AI for dishonest purposes, like cheating, which could undermine genuine learning and skill-building. They stress the need for educators to bring human elements to learning while integrating AI, as it becomes part of the educational landscape. Lastly, they encourage students to engage with AI as a means to become self-directed learners, adapting to this rapidly evolving technological tool to augment both education and professional life.
心得
- 🎓 AI is revolutionizing education by providing personalized tutoring.
- 🌍 AI democratizes access to educational resources.
- 🕵️♂️ Be critical of AI's accuracy; it's a tool, not a truth.
- 💡 Use AI to aid in learning, not as a shortcut for cheating.
- 🤝 Educators should integrate human elements with AI.
- 📚 AI can support writing, research, and curiosity-driven learning.
- 🕒 AI offers 24/7 support, aligning with varied student schedules.
- 🔍 Being a self-directed learner is crucial in the AI era.
- 🚫 Avoid using AI for dishonest purposes as it hampers true learning.
- 💻 AI's role in education is expanding, necessitating adaptation.
时间轴
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The video begins with introductions by the hosts, Jess and Lauren, introducing the special guest, Dr. Andy Sheen, a Chief Learning Officer at Penn Foster. They announce the discussion topic on AI's impact on education. Lauren informs the audience about privacy and offers contact options for further inquiries.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Dr. Andy Sheen introduces himself and shares his background and role at Penn Foster. He emphasizes his involvement in academic programs and support teams. The hosts outline the AI-focused topics for discussion, including its relevance to education and its use in learning. They query Dr. Sheen about AI's impact on tutoring, highlighting its potential to make one-on-one tutoring accessible for all.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Dr. Sheen delves into the possibility of AI democratizing education by making personalized tutoring universally accessible. He explains the evolution and integration of AI into everyday platforms, and how rapid adoption similar to technologies like ChatGPT has been noted. Emphasizing its importance, he encourages learners to stay informed and curious about AI advancements.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
The discussion turns to the benefits of AI as a 24/7 educational resource. While acknowledging the unique human aspects tutors offer, Dr. Sheen stresses the supplementary role AI can play, especially for students with busy lifestyles, by providing continuous availability. He believes AI can elevate the educational experience if used correctly.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
The hosts and Dr. Sheen discuss practical uses of AI for learning, such as aiding in writing and generating feedback. Dr. Sheen advises against using AI to do the work for students but encourages its use for brainstorming and learning enhancement. He highlights the importance of developing effective prompts for getting useful feedback from AI tools.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
They explore the reliability of AI for research, cautioning against blindly trusting its outputs. Dr. Sheen likens AI to an intern that occasionally gets things wrong and advises maintaining a critical eye. The conversation underscores the need for students to be discerning in their research and critically evaluate AI-provided information.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
The notion of AI enhancing curiosity and exploration in an educational context is expanded upon, drawing parallels with Montessori learning principles. Dr. Sheen advocates for the democratization of knowledge through AI's personalized learning tools, stressing its potential to make sophisticated inquiry accessible to all and transform the traditional learning landscape.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:18
Concluding the discussion, they address ethical considerations about AI usage in education, emphasizing it should not substitute personal effort and integrity. Dr. Sheen reiterates the potential of AI to enhance both education and professional spheres when used as an aid rather than a replacement for human input. The conversation ends on an encouraging note for embracing AI's educational opportunities.
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视频问答
Who is the guest in the video?
The guest is Dr. Andy Sheen, Chief Learning Officer at Penn Foster.
What is the main topic discussed in the video?
The integration and impact of AI in education.
Is using AI in education considered cheating?
Using AI for support and tutoring is encouraged, but using it to cheat would not be beneficial in the long run.
How can AI be used effectively by students?
AI can be used for writing assistance, research, understanding difficult concepts, and as a 24/7 tutor.
What is a concern when using AI for research?
AI can sometimes provide inaccurate information, so it's important to verify the information received.
How does AI democratize education?
AI provides more equal access to resources like tutoring that might have been expensive previously.
Should educators fear AI?
Educators should focus on what human elements they bring to the educational process, complementing AI's capabilities.
Can AI tools be trusted completely for learning?
It's important to critically evaluate the information from AI, as it can sometimes provide misleading information.
What are some AI tools mentioned?
Tools like ChatGPT for text, and AI applications for creating images, videos, and websites.
Why should students become self-directed learners with AI?
AI provides the resources and opportunities for students to learn independently at any time.
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- 00:01:00hey everybody and welcome to another
- 00:01:02Facebook live I'm your host Jess and I'm
- 00:01:05your host Lauren and today we have a
- 00:01:08super extra special guest with us
- 00:01:11um we're gonna talk all things AI we
- 00:01:14know it's a new topic there's a lot
- 00:01:16going on on the internet all over the
- 00:01:18place and we're gonna tell you about how
- 00:01:20it ties into your education but before
- 00:01:22we jump into all of the good content
- 00:01:24Lauren is going to give us a couple
- 00:01:26Facebook live disclaimers so take it
- 00:01:28away Lauren
- 00:01:29thanks Jess so thank you all for
- 00:01:31everyone who's watching and joining us
- 00:01:33today we're so excited to have this
- 00:01:35conversation with you as a reminder just
- 00:01:37please don't leave any personal
- 00:01:39information in the very public comments
- 00:01:41section
- 00:01:43um if you need to get in touch with us
- 00:01:44you're welcome to give us a call the
- 00:01:46number for admissions if you're not
- 00:01:48currently enrolled is one eight eight
- 00:01:53four two seven six five zero zero if you
- 00:01:56are already a Penn Foster student and
- 00:01:58you'd like to chat with us the number
- 00:02:00for student services is
- 00:02:031-888-427-1000 all of that being said if
- 00:02:07you have any questions about AI thoughts
- 00:02:09on AI how you use AI in your education
- 00:02:12please leave all that in the comments
- 00:02:14section because we do love to look
- 00:02:17through that see what you guys you know
- 00:02:19have to say and are thinking about this
- 00:02:21and and really include you in this
- 00:02:22conversation
- 00:02:25um and as just mentioned we have an
- 00:02:27amazing guest with us today our chief
- 00:02:30learning officer Dr Andy Sheen he is our
- 00:02:33resident expert on all things AI so
- 00:02:36welcome Andy
- 00:02:38um can you just tell us a little bit
- 00:02:39about yourself and what you do at Penn
- 00:02:41Foster yeah yeah I absolutely and thanks
- 00:02:44Lauren just really excited to be here so
- 00:02:46yeah I'm the chief learning officer at
- 00:02:47the Penn Foster group I've been here for
- 00:02:49gosh almost two and a half years and
- 00:02:52loved every minute of it um been a chief
- 00:02:54academic officer for like the last 10
- 00:02:56years and just for what it's worth I
- 00:02:58began my path in education as a high
- 00:03:00school English teacher and worked with
- 00:03:02the at-risk youth and that's kind of
- 00:03:04where my part is and probably always
- 00:03:06will be at Penn Foster I lead academic
- 00:03:09programs so those include like your
- 00:03:11instructors your graders the folks that
- 00:03:13you interact with when you need extra
- 00:03:15support and help with academics I also
- 00:03:17lead um kind of the vision for the
- 00:03:19learning design teams those are the
- 00:03:21folks that help create the actual
- 00:03:22content and then I lead the academic and
- 00:03:25non-academic support team so the folks
- 00:03:27when you call in and need help with like
- 00:03:29a payment or you don't know what your
- 00:03:31next course or program might look like
- 00:03:32those are the folks that help you so
- 00:03:34yeah that's me
- 00:03:37definitely
- 00:03:41and it's cool that I think you have so
- 00:03:43much insight into a lot of how our
- 00:03:46Learners interact with us at Penn Foster
- 00:03:48and their experience and I think it's
- 00:03:51cool that that's something that you
- 00:03:52think about and in the conversation of
- 00:03:55AI which is what we're going to get into
- 00:03:58um so some topics we'll cover today are
- 00:04:00what kind of AI is relevant to education
- 00:04:02how you can use AI to help you learn
- 00:04:05what are some do's and don'ts of using
- 00:04:08AI for school
- 00:04:10is using AI cheating that's a popular
- 00:04:13question right now and why you should
- 00:04:15learn more about AI
- 00:04:18um so Andy overseeing so many aspects of
- 00:04:21education and the learner experience at
- 00:04:24Penn Foster let's kick it off by you
- 00:04:26telling us a little bit more about what
- 00:04:28kind of AI is most relevant to education
- 00:04:32yeah that's a good one so just maybe
- 00:04:35I'll do like the rule of three and then
- 00:04:37if we want to dive deeper into something
- 00:04:39um let's do it let me start with one
- 00:04:42this which is there was a study many
- 00:04:46many years ago that and you're an
- 00:04:47education research was like the study
- 00:04:50and it was by um Bloom and it was called
- 00:04:53the two Sigma study and basically what
- 00:04:55they did is they took three different
- 00:04:57groups one group got like your normal
- 00:04:59typical direct instruction one group was
- 00:05:02required to do Mastery learning and the
- 00:05:04other group got one-on-one tutoring
- 00:05:07um they called this study the two Sigma
- 00:05:09study because the group they got to
- 00:05:11tutoring got two standard deviations
- 00:05:14increase in learning which is
- 00:05:16significant but the challenge is that
- 00:05:19one-on-one tutoring is very very
- 00:05:21expensive and if a school can't support
- 00:05:24it typically folks let's say you come
- 00:05:26from an affluent family can tend to
- 00:05:29afford tutoring but folks let's say that
- 00:05:31you know just getting by I may not
- 00:05:33necessarily be able to afford that so
- 00:05:35there was a real kind of
- 00:05:37um inequity in that and so you fast
- 00:05:39forward to Ai and to me it's the
- 00:05:42beginning of one-on-one tutoring for
- 00:05:44everybody
- 00:05:45so there's a real uh democratization and
- 00:05:48at least what I view as the potential of
- 00:05:50AI so I I just want to ground ourselves
- 00:05:52in the promise of um a technology
- 00:05:55generative AI at least that's fairly
- 00:05:58recent and uh I think that's really
- 00:06:00exciting so the potential here is is
- 00:06:02immense
- 00:06:03I think the second thing is
- 00:06:06um you know it's absolutely relevant to
- 00:06:08education and quite honestly it's going
- 00:06:10to be integrated into the common
- 00:06:12platforms that I'm guessing a lot of you
- 00:06:14use today so simple example right if
- 00:06:17you're using Google it's now and
- 00:06:19increasingly going to be powered by I
- 00:06:21think Bart is that right or whatever the
- 00:06:23name of their their AI engine is which
- 00:06:26is going to make things like search and
- 00:06:28other functionalities
- 00:06:29increasingly more sophisticated so you
- 00:06:32may not even know it right now but
- 00:06:34you're using generative
- 00:06:35um Ai and then finally three we have
- 00:06:39over the last four to five months
- 00:06:42um the creation of so many new tools
- 00:06:44that are powered by this new artificial
- 00:06:47intelligence right Chad GPT is probably
- 00:06:49the one that you've heard the most about
- 00:06:52um this is crazy right I mean I think in
- 00:06:54January they had one million users and
- 00:06:56in February 100 million users that's the
- 00:06:59fastest adoption of an educational
- 00:07:01technology technology in general that I
- 00:07:03think we've seen ever more than Facebook
- 00:07:06more than you know you name it so
- 00:07:09there's something very powerful
- 00:07:10happening here but it's more than just
- 00:07:12chat gbt right I mean you have image
- 00:07:15creation video creation and you're now
- 00:07:18seeing billions of dollars in
- 00:07:20investments in everything under the sun
- 00:07:23right writing feedback math tutoring I
- 00:07:26mean you name it it's happening you know
- 00:07:29and I think I think for you as a user
- 00:07:31what I would just really encourage you
- 00:07:34is to be um be really in the know be
- 00:07:37somebody who's reading about this who's
- 00:07:39who's seeking Insight who's asking
- 00:07:41friend friends who's looking to
- 00:07:42resources like what Penn Foster group
- 00:07:45offers was which we just launched a new
- 00:07:48um site on our Learning Resource Center
- 00:07:49all about Ai and you can get much more
- 00:07:52specifics here but but really be
- 00:07:54somebody who's taking this seriously and
- 00:07:57who's inquiring and seeking to learn
- 00:07:59more about it because listen this this
- 00:08:01is not going away this isn't this isn't
- 00:08:03a fad this is you know think about many
- 00:08:06many years ago right when you use paper
- 00:08:08maps use paper maps anymore no like same
- 00:08:11kind of concept right it's here to say
- 00:08:13I want to go back to one thing that you
- 00:08:16said about the access that AI kind of
- 00:08:19provides for outcomes when you know
- 00:08:21typically in the past you had to have
- 00:08:23been able to afford a tutor to get that
- 00:08:26extra help and extra support and now ai
- 00:08:29is accessible for anyone but I think
- 00:08:31another cool thing about it is that you
- 00:08:34know seeing a tutor working with
- 00:08:35somebody in person can be intimidating
- 00:08:37for a lot of people and it's also not
- 00:08:40immediate so if you need help in the
- 00:08:42moment
- 00:08:43AI is is there for you and ready and
- 00:08:47it's also not as scary to open up chat
- 00:08:49GPD as it could be for a tutor so I
- 00:08:53think that's kind of another cool way
- 00:08:54that it opens up access to to positive
- 00:08:57learning outcomes yeah yeah but Lauren I
- 00:09:00could as there's a couple things there
- 00:09:01that are really worth noting I think
- 00:09:03your point about we in education world
- 00:09:06we call kind of the gold standard
- 00:09:08meeting the student at the point of need
- 00:09:10and right and if you're a student for
- 00:09:12example on this this session and you're
- 00:09:14let's Penn Foster student you know uh
- 00:09:17you might be studying Saturday night you
- 00:09:20know Sunday morning Tuesday after the
- 00:09:22kids go to bed and those are times in
- 00:09:25which there's not always a human
- 00:09:26available to help you we wish there was
- 00:09:28but there's not always and so to be able
- 00:09:31to have access to an AI tutor for
- 00:09:33example that's available 24 7 which
- 00:09:36really aligns with that point of need
- 00:09:37concept is huge right so I think that's
- 00:09:41a great point now um if you happen to to
- 00:09:44be an educator and and you're listening
- 00:09:46to this or even like a tutor and you're
- 00:09:48listening to this I would just really
- 00:09:50challenge you in a good way because if
- 00:09:53you um if you can't be available 24 7
- 00:09:56and you're not as accessible as an AI
- 00:09:58what I hope you bring in Spades is the
- 00:10:00human element right how how do you
- 00:10:03motivate and care and connect in ways
- 00:10:06with your learners that let's say a
- 00:10:08computer can't so my hope is this is the
- 00:10:10kind of technology that like lifts all
- 00:10:12boats right
- 00:10:14um so view this as almost like ways to
- 00:10:16be the best version of yourself as a
- 00:10:18tutor but but Lauren the key Point here
- 00:10:20is um that 24 7 you know availability is
- 00:10:24significant especially for our Learners
- 00:10:25who are living super busy lives and I
- 00:10:27think that's one of the you know
- 00:10:28potential game changers here definitely
- 00:10:30and I agree with what you said too
- 00:10:31there'll be aspects of tutoring and
- 00:10:33education that you know an in-person
- 00:10:36conversation you just need to have that
- 00:10:39in those moments but if we can
- 00:10:40supplement some of that that need to
- 00:10:43learn more more with AI or with online
- 00:10:45tools then that's awesome yeah 100
- 00:10:49yeah that makes a hundred percent sense
- 00:10:51and I feel like
- 00:10:53you said
- 00:10:55it's something we need to learn about
- 00:10:56because it's not going anywhere you can
- 00:10:58either fight it or you can rock out to
- 00:10:59it it's one or the other and I think
- 00:11:02that that's really important whether
- 00:11:04you're a student or you're a
- 00:11:06professional already I mean it's it's
- 00:11:08infiltrating so many Industries and so
- 00:11:10many like parts of our everyday life we
- 00:11:13really need to know more about it and
- 00:11:15it's you know its relevance to education
- 00:11:18in terms of this conversation
- 00:11:21um so in your opinion Andy what is the
- 00:11:23best way for a student to use AI
- 00:11:26platforms to help them learn
- 00:11:28yeah that's a good one so there's
- 00:11:31there's a lot of sort of like Endless
- 00:11:34Possibilities
- 00:11:36um but if you if you think about a few
- 00:11:38really basic ones right so one a lot of
- 00:11:42students struggle with with writing
- 00:11:44right listen when I um went to grad
- 00:11:47school that was probably like my biggest
- 00:11:49fears like gosh I'm gonna have to write
- 00:11:51a lot am I really gonna be successful
- 00:11:55um and I was a student
- 00:11:56um who was able to like go to the
- 00:11:58writing lab and spend time with writing
- 00:12:00tutors where not everybody did so I
- 00:12:02think one of the ways you should think
- 00:12:04about using AI is for writing now this
- 00:12:05is a really important distinction I
- 00:12:06think we'll get into this aside in a
- 00:12:08second I am not saying use AI to write
- 00:12:10your paper
- 00:12:12um I'm saying use AI to think to that
- 00:12:15tutoring concept to provide
- 00:12:18um to provide feedback to you right and
- 00:12:20so one of the things that you want to
- 00:12:21get practicing get good at and they call
- 00:12:24it kind of prompts is being able to
- 00:12:27write a prompt in an AI engine like chat
- 00:12:30GPT that can give you the kind of
- 00:12:33feedback that you're looking for now we
- 00:12:35at Penn Foster group we're gonna we're
- 00:12:38gonna help you do that
- 00:12:40um we're not only we can help you do
- 00:12:41that within your actual writing
- 00:12:43assignments but in the Learning Resource
- 00:12:44Center that I mentioned we actually have
- 00:12:46references to strategies and tips about
- 00:12:48writing prompts but if you get really
- 00:12:50good at writing prompts in a chat GPT
- 00:12:52like AI engine
- 00:12:54um you can find ways to submit your
- 00:12:56paper right and get automated
- 00:12:58personalized feedback in like the snap
- 00:13:01of a finger right so
- 00:13:03writing is you know help is a huge way
- 00:13:06that I think Learners can take advantage
- 00:13:08of AI to support their academic progress
- 00:13:10but it's not just feedback with writing
- 00:13:12right I mean you can get an outline for
- 00:13:15an essay that you want to read you can
- 00:13:17brainstorm topics you can ask for a
- 00:13:20model example example right not not take
- 00:13:23that example and use it as as your own
- 00:13:26people but an example to look at and say
- 00:13:28oh this is kind of what the rubric that
- 00:13:30I'm getting that I'm supposed to write
- 00:13:32here's an example of what an AI might
- 00:13:34write relative to that rubric and and
- 00:13:36use it as as a model to look at and say
- 00:13:39okay this is how this should be crafted
- 00:13:41and then use that then to write and
- 00:13:43generate your own your own writing right
- 00:13:46so within the the writing process and
- 00:13:49then the actual feedback
- 00:13:51um AI presents tremendous tremendous
- 00:13:55support
- 00:13:55um for Learners to me I I used to love
- 00:13:58as a kid I don't know about you all
- 00:14:00remember like the encyclopedia
- 00:14:01britannicas where you would just go
- 00:14:03through and flip pages so you'd be like
- 00:14:05on W and we learn about whales you know
- 00:14:07but that was like fascinating that's
- 00:14:08when we were younger and super curious
- 00:14:10about everything you can think of AI as
- 00:14:13sort of like a 21st century encyclopedia
- 00:14:17and so okay what's that look like in
- 00:14:19real life go get curious go have
- 00:14:21conversations back and forth with an AI
- 00:14:25right I mean I was I think the other day
- 00:14:27just asking all sorts of questions about
- 00:14:29history you know I mean it's just
- 00:14:31fascinating to hear what the eye engine
- 00:14:34will will share with you based on the
- 00:14:36questions
- 00:14:37um you ask and and this is an important
- 00:14:39differentiator between an AI engine like
- 00:14:42chat gbt and Google right listen no
- 00:14:45knock on Google I love Google but we
- 00:14:47should know that when you submit
- 00:14:48questions to a search engine the top
- 00:14:51hits are often ones that are paid for
- 00:14:53and so in a chat GPT at least for now
- 00:14:56that's not the case so you're getting
- 00:14:59information
- 00:15:00more purposely aligned with your
- 00:15:04question and with less let's call it
- 00:15:06economic motivation so think of AI is
- 00:15:09almost like a get curious like a
- 00:15:11conversational q a and then lastly I
- 00:15:14would say based on the specific type of
- 00:15:18thing you're trying to learn there's
- 00:15:19likely an application for you right are
- 00:15:22you trying to create images for a
- 00:15:24presentation do you want to put a little
- 00:15:26video together you know for some kind of
- 00:15:30um artifact that you want to create you
- 00:15:32name it there's an AI creating a website
- 00:15:35in like a couple questions boom like
- 00:15:37there's an AI tool out there and that's
- 00:15:38back to like get get into the research
- 00:15:41mode here like really
- 00:15:43um spend some time reading and thinking
- 00:15:45and talking to friends and you know
- 00:15:47soliciting experts like our lrc page so
- 00:15:50that you really become aware of all that
- 00:15:52that's possible and keep rest of it
- 00:15:54because gosh every day something new
- 00:15:56gets created and I really think we're
- 00:15:57going to be in that stage for a bit of
- 00:15:59time here absolutely you talked about
- 00:16:01using AI for research how much can you
- 00:16:04trust AI to help you with the research
- 00:16:07is it accurate do you feel like there's
- 00:16:10a need to you know double check the
- 00:16:12information you're receiving
- 00:16:14he has a really a really good question
- 00:16:17that I think Point
- 00:16:19um there's a professor Who I Really Love
- 00:16:21at I believe the Wharton School of
- 00:16:23Business who coined this term he said he
- 00:16:26said um and he's chat gbt like chat gbt
- 00:16:29is like a really patient intern who
- 00:16:31occasionally lies to you
- 00:16:34um and it is true right and in the kind
- 00:16:37of the clinical terms they call it
- 00:16:39hallucinating because because remember
- 00:16:40there's not like real artificial
- 00:16:43intelligence yet right it's really based
- 00:16:45on statistical you know math in which
- 00:16:49you're creating all these different if
- 00:16:51then then that kind of work behind the
- 00:16:54scenes that then produces these results
- 00:16:57for you and if and if the the algorithm
- 00:17:00if you will
- 00:17:02um isn't quite certain what you're
- 00:17:03asking or or sometimes might generate an
- 00:17:06answer that's not a hundred percent true
- 00:17:09so get on like your BS detector right
- 00:17:12like think reflectively skeptical right
- 00:17:16by the way that's true of reading
- 00:17:18textbooks that's true of listening to
- 00:17:21professors people have subjectivity
- 00:17:23people are not a hundred percent right
- 00:17:26let me tell you as a teacher I made a
- 00:17:28lot of stuff up when I didn't know the
- 00:17:29answer I'm just kidding sort of but I
- 00:17:31mean really right and so like have a
- 00:17:33certain skeptical lens to it which is
- 00:17:35great because hopefully that that
- 00:17:37facilitates a certain amount of critical
- 00:17:38thinking right walk into any educational
- 00:17:41environment to any textbook to any AI
- 00:17:44engine with a certain amount of like
- 00:17:45Discerning between what has Merit and
- 00:17:48what doesn't so but at the end of the
- 00:17:50day you should not accept a hundred
- 00:17:53percent of what you get in there as as
- 00:17:55gospel
- 00:17:57um I I would I would really assume most
- 00:17:59of it is probably at least somewhat
- 00:18:01accurate but have a critical eye
- 00:18:05that's a really good point
- 00:18:07um I wanted to go back to something else
- 00:18:09that you said about using it to get
- 00:18:11curious there's a lot in that last
- 00:18:12answer you gave that was really
- 00:18:13interesting
- 00:18:15um you know I love I think you know when
- 00:18:18I think about learning when you're going
- 00:18:19through a course you know you're trying
- 00:18:22to really get the information you need
- 00:18:23to pass the test pass the exam and make
- 00:18:26it through
- 00:18:28um and you know when you're maybe
- 00:18:29looking at your textbook or your course
- 00:18:31materials there's only going to be a
- 00:18:33certain amount of information on the
- 00:18:34subject that really enables you to you
- 00:18:37know get through the course
- 00:18:39um but one cool thing about AI is it
- 00:18:42enables you to have that resource to dig
- 00:18:45a little bit deeper and I think that
- 00:18:47that's very cool too even if you just
- 00:18:48want to deepen your understanding for
- 00:18:50curiosity purposes but then the more you
- 00:18:52understand often the better you may do
- 00:18:55on an exam or in your course because you
- 00:18:57can understand that concept more
- 00:18:59holistically so
- 00:19:01I don't know I think that's just another
- 00:19:03really cool part about AI but yeah but
- 00:19:06can I so sorry
- 00:19:08building on him um there's a really
- 00:19:12wonderful
- 00:19:13um educator and and those of you who
- 00:19:16have kids you may have sent your kids to
- 00:19:18school called Montessori or or heard of
- 00:19:21of um of the methods but one of the
- 00:19:24things that I love about Montessori
- 00:19:26schools and the Montessori sort of
- 00:19:28pedagogy which is like you know like the
- 00:19:30way we think about teaching and learning
- 00:19:32is this notion where kids sort of
- 00:19:34especially early on are able to kind of
- 00:19:37independently seek out things they're
- 00:19:39interested in and when they're there
- 00:19:41they go deep and they play and they they
- 00:19:43create and so as you get further along
- 00:19:46in your education like just to be honest
- 00:19:49like my fear is we lose some of that
- 00:19:51Montessori magic and My Hope in the
- 00:19:55early days of online learning was that
- 00:19:57we could democratize knowledge right
- 00:19:59whereas in you know in higher education
- 00:20:02at least this this knowledge used to
- 00:20:03just be in the heads of these brilliant
- 00:20:05professors and it was their job to sort
- 00:20:07of let you know their Brilliance and it
- 00:20:09was your job to like remember it and
- 00:20:11figure out how to apply it I think we're
- 00:20:13in a world where like knowledge is
- 00:20:16everywhere and accessible by by a lot of
- 00:20:19people through the internet
- 00:20:21um now we have to get better at creating
- 00:20:23Equity with technology like that's a
- 00:20:25whole other topic but the Hope here is
- 00:20:28that we democratize knowledge that
- 00:20:31doesn't mean that you just figure out
- 00:20:32how to learn overnight that's a whole
- 00:20:33separate thing but that's a step right
- 00:20:35it's democratizing knowledge and then
- 00:20:36you take AI right especially genitive Ai
- 00:20:39and and really it it's gonna be I think
- 00:20:43like a learning tool for you for the
- 00:20:46rest of of our lives and that's really
- 00:20:48exciting because it's it's it's not just
- 00:20:50about looking for insight in an ocean
- 00:20:52right it's really having more of a
- 00:20:55personalized tool to take that
- 00:20:56information that's now somewhat
- 00:20:58ubiquitous and democratized and being
- 00:21:01able to have a tool that's able to like
- 00:21:03distill and get for you especially as
- 00:21:05you get better at writing prompts the
- 00:21:06kind of information that's most relevant
- 00:21:08and so now you have like kind of a
- 00:21:11version of a teacher accessible to you
- 00:21:14um in a way that that I don't even know
- 00:21:16I even dreamed of like 10 15 years ago
- 00:21:19and so this notion of like Get curious
- 00:21:23and and yes there's like specific things
- 00:21:25we need for you to learn in your program
- 00:21:27that are relative to the jobs you want
- 00:21:28to get but as Lauren said if there's
- 00:21:30something that you're you're fascinated
- 00:21:32by go back to that time when you're a
- 00:21:33little kid and you really want to dive
- 00:21:35deeper on you have the means to go dive
- 00:21:38dive deep and to me that's kind of
- 00:21:41revolutionary quite honestly
- 00:21:43and I think it's part of what makes AI
- 00:21:46pair really well with online education
- 00:21:48to your point because if you're sitting
- 00:21:50in a brick and mortar classroom you're
- 00:21:52often maybe not able to be on your phone
- 00:21:54or not able to be you know using AI to
- 00:21:57search and go deeper on certain topics
- 00:21:59and you're trying to keep up with a live
- 00:22:00teacher when you're online at home doing
- 00:22:04that then you can kind of you know have
- 00:22:06your course up but maybe take a pause
- 00:22:08and and dig deeper on something that
- 00:22:10you're curious about and I just think
- 00:22:12that that's that's a really cool pairing
- 00:22:15absolutely yeah I mean I think the
- 00:22:18people who are going to get this right
- 00:22:19aren't going to try to fight it off
- 00:22:21they're not going to try to ignore it's
- 00:22:23not going away think of like paper maps
- 00:22:26um they're gonna be the ones and I'm
- 00:22:28going to go back to like my human tutor
- 00:22:30analogy they're going to figure out
- 00:22:31where the human component really is a
- 00:22:34special unique quality that then is
- 00:22:37leveraging AI to be even more of a
- 00:22:40powerful educational environment like
- 00:22:42don't think of them as a either or think
- 00:22:44of like how they fuse together in the
- 00:22:47best possible way but I agree with you
- 00:22:49that I think online environments are
- 00:22:50especially poised to take advantage of
- 00:22:53this new technology
- 00:22:54yeah I think that it's really cool too
- 00:22:56the way that you know this the
- 00:22:58conversation is kind of going that you
- 00:23:01can become an expert on how to utilize
- 00:23:03AI best for you it's not necessarily a
- 00:23:07crutch it's another tool that we need to
- 00:23:09learn how to harness and learn how to
- 00:23:12use for each individual you know learner
- 00:23:16or or professional or anybody in in that
- 00:23:19in that matter so I think that that's a
- 00:23:22really cool way of looking at it that
- 00:23:24like obviously and we'll get into this
- 00:23:26next I think is about AI whether it's
- 00:23:29cheating or you know usually utilizing
- 00:23:31it for certain things
- 00:23:33um but once you learn how to use it for
- 00:23:37you it's it's a tool it's not a crutch
- 00:23:41if that makes sense yeah 100 it 100 does
- 00:23:45I mean and I just uh just I could just
- 00:23:47one like other uh recommendation sort of
- 00:23:50encouragement to Learners is giving you
- 00:23:52have access to a version of uh 21st
- 00:23:56century encyclopedia and a one-on-one
- 00:23:58tutor
- 00:24:00um and you can go deep and get curious
- 00:24:01and do it 24 7. I just like encourage
- 00:24:05students so much to think about what it
- 00:24:07means to be a self-directed learner
- 00:24:09right I mean I think you know people ask
- 00:24:12me sometimes like what's what's the most
- 00:24:14important thing you would you would tell
- 00:24:15a student you know to get good at you
- 00:24:17know and I mean I think critically is
- 00:24:19probably one of them but but gosh be a
- 00:24:21self-directed learner you're you're
- 00:24:23living in times where
- 00:24:25um it's never been easier to access
- 00:24:27knowledge now that doesn't mean it's the
- 00:24:30equivalent of like sending you to the
- 00:24:31library and saying teach yourself
- 00:24:32economics we know that learning is much
- 00:24:35more complex and messy which is why
- 00:24:36folks like Penn Foster group exist is
- 00:24:38because we really know the ingredients
- 00:24:40that lead to good learning
- 00:24:42um but you can absolutely take advantage
- 00:24:45of some of these tools that you know
- 00:24:47folks even six seven months ago didn't
- 00:24:50have access to so I just encourage you
- 00:24:52to be a self-corrected learner and
- 00:24:54encourage you to leverage these tools
- 00:24:57um because I really think there's a huge
- 00:24:58benefit here and it's not going away
- 00:25:00it's only going to increase
- 00:25:03um in in what's available
- 00:25:06so let's get super practical and maybe
- 00:25:09go through some of the dues
- 00:25:13in tandem with school
- 00:25:16yeah I mean well let's let's start with
- 00:25:18the don'ts right and and remember like
- 00:25:21there was a time where like the
- 00:25:23typewriter or the calculator
- 00:25:27um right were very feared the internet
- 00:25:30um we're very feared in in sort of the
- 00:25:33public educational uh organization and
- 00:25:36probably with some Merit you want to
- 00:25:37sort of like take it in and figure
- 00:25:39figure it out but those are really
- 00:25:41common tools right today
- 00:25:44um and so I I think with AI when I
- 00:25:47wouldn't view just AI in general has a
- 00:25:49as a threat but it is kind of how you
- 00:25:52use it that matters so like a don't is
- 00:25:55do not and we've gone over this before
- 00:25:57I'm just going to say it again they're
- 00:25:58like do not use AI to cheat like what
- 00:26:01benefit is that if you don't do the
- 00:26:04learning and you don't do the thinking I
- 00:26:06mean I mean maybe you you get away with
- 00:26:08it and you get a degree or certificate
- 00:26:10but do you have the skills that you're
- 00:26:12gonna need to be effective in your job
- 00:26:15and future jobs like you're sort of just
- 00:26:18cheating yourself in a way and so don't
- 00:26:19use AI to cheat do the thinking
- 00:26:23um do do the learning right don't don't
- 00:26:25cut and paste essays or be in your exam
- 00:26:28and have you know an AI engine on the
- 00:26:30other side and just like typing the the
- 00:26:33question and getting the answers like
- 00:26:35that's that's not what we want right and
- 00:26:38and honestly the more that that happens
- 00:26:40the more you're going to see educational
- 00:26:41organizations like fight back the
- 00:26:45Innovative possibilities like
- 00:26:46democratizing learning so be part of
- 00:26:48good and fair use right so don't don't
- 00:26:51use it to cheat I think is probably like
- 00:26:53my my number one message the other thing
- 00:26:55that I would say is and we've touched
- 00:26:57upon this as well but but don't accept
- 00:26:58everything as gospel right I mean it's
- 00:27:00capable of hallucinating or not being
- 00:27:03100 accurate so approach it with some
- 00:27:06level of discernment right like what's
- 00:27:08accurate here what's not which is I
- 00:27:10think a great tool for critical thinking
- 00:27:13so don't accept 100 of it is true have a
- 00:27:16Discerning you know I critical lens
- 00:27:18don't use it to cheat
- 00:27:21um and then the third thing I would say
- 00:27:23is
- 00:27:24um make sure you're like adding your own
- 00:27:26personal creativity especially when
- 00:27:28you're using it as like a productivity
- 00:27:30tool like creating a video or like
- 00:27:32creating an image or creating a website
- 00:27:34think about it as offering you like a
- 00:27:37base and then you get to like work with
- 00:27:39that base so don't don't let it Rob you
- 00:27:41of being creative and and producing and
- 00:27:44and like you know and making it your own
- 00:27:46personal Mark right
- 00:27:49um there's tons of dues and like we've
- 00:27:51gone over some of them like get curious
- 00:27:53think of like 21st century encyclopedia
- 00:27:56use it to go deep you know where you
- 00:27:58really have interest and think there's
- 00:28:00real relevance get knowledgeable
- 00:28:02research and and find out about the
- 00:28:06trends and the tools and the
- 00:28:07applications that are really uh highly
- 00:28:11rated and feel very relevant to your to
- 00:28:13your learning and and use it as like a
- 00:28:1624 7 point of need as sort of Lauren
- 00:28:18mentioned tutor when when you need it
- 00:28:21right and then you know my my final call
- 00:28:24to action which I'll just reiterate is
- 00:28:25like become a self-directed learner it's
- 00:28:29the greatest gift I think you know an
- 00:28:31educational world that you can have
- 00:28:32especially now with AI
- 00:28:35absolutely
- 00:28:37so Andy also if I know we've talked a
- 00:28:40lot about doing your own research about
- 00:28:42Ai and learning about it just you know
- 00:28:45the best the best way to fight the fear
- 00:28:47of it is to know everything you could
- 00:28:49possibly know
- 00:28:51um so in your opinion where are the best
- 00:28:53resources to learn about utilizing AI me
- 00:28:56I know we talked about we have the in
- 00:28:58the Learning Resource Center but is
- 00:28:59there anywhere else that you would
- 00:29:00suggest Learners or anybody watching to
- 00:29:03go to get the the DL if as it were on um
- 00:29:07on AI the download yeah I love it um
- 00:29:10yeah I mean um I'm a big fan of the Khan
- 00:29:13Academy and I'm a big fan of some
- 00:29:16calling them they actually have a course
- 00:29:18on AI on their website non-profit it's
- 00:29:22free and um I really encourage folks to
- 00:29:25check that out there's a ton of great
- 00:29:27insight as well as a ton of great
- 00:29:29resources in that free course
- 00:29:32honestly this sounds kind of cheeky but
- 00:29:34ask AI right um I think if you have a
- 00:29:38chat GPT although I'd probably use a
- 00:29:40more modern version
- 00:29:42um that has the most most up-to-date uh
- 00:29:45intelligence in it
- 00:29:47um you can ask you can ask it about
- 00:29:48what's the future look like for AI you
- 00:29:50can ask it like recommended resources
- 00:29:54um you can you know you can really use
- 00:29:56it as like a tool to ask about itself
- 00:29:59which I know it sounds funny but listen
- 00:30:02I was leading an AI Summit at the Penn
- 00:30:04Foster group and one of the first things
- 00:30:05I need to do is craft an email and I
- 00:30:07literally asked chat GPT about its own
- 00:30:10future and its answer felt pretty right
- 00:30:13on and then quite honestly you know I
- 00:30:15mean check out the news I mean there's
- 00:30:17news articles that are coming about
- 00:30:19feels like daily with like breakthroughs
- 00:30:22in in Ai and a lot of times they'll
- 00:30:25reference in those articles you know a
- 00:30:27lot of existing resources and
- 00:30:29applications so just check out the news
- 00:30:32about Ai and you know even like
- 00:30:33subscribe to a feed
- 00:30:36um you know I think is is worthy
- 00:30:38um and and just have information come to
- 00:30:40you as it becomes most updated right but
- 00:30:43but again outside of the like specifics
- 00:30:46I mean just immerse yourself in that
- 00:30:48world I mean you you have right the
- 00:30:51internet you have search engines like I
- 00:30:54mean I really think just get curious and
- 00:30:56spend some time just digging and
- 00:30:58guaranteed you're gonna find some gems
- 00:31:01that's really good advice one more thing
- 00:31:04on the cheating do's and don'ts topic
- 00:31:07that I know a lot of people watching
- 00:31:09will want to know is can your teachers
- 00:31:12tell if you're cheating with AI yeah so
- 00:31:16the answer we're just being honest right
- 00:31:18the answer is sort of
- 00:31:21and so what I mean by that is um I don't
- 00:31:24know if you guys are familiar with like
- 00:31:25spam right but if you have an internet
- 00:31:27you typically get hit with Spam which is
- 00:31:30maybe like an unwanted advertisement or
- 00:31:32a pop-up that you didn't really like and
- 00:31:34so there's all these tools that are
- 00:31:37essentially spam filters right that you
- 00:31:39know you set up that sort of block the
- 00:31:41spam and what's amazing is like the
- 00:31:44tools and the spam are increasingly in
- 00:31:46this battle for like who's more
- 00:31:48sophisticated and you'll block some
- 00:31:49stuff but some stuff will find a way way
- 00:31:52through I'd argue that's very similar to
- 00:31:54what's happening in the generative AI
- 00:31:56space
- 00:31:57um some people will tell you that they
- 00:32:00figured out a tool that that can detect
- 00:32:02it chat GPT zero is one that at the Penn
- 00:32:06Foster group we've been looking at we
- 00:32:08have a tool called grammarly that all
- 00:32:11paper submissions
- 00:32:13um run through that can tell whether or
- 00:32:15not for example you went and got a paper
- 00:32:16from course hero or whether you used too
- 00:32:19much internet citation and not an enough
- 00:32:21of your own thinking but to the extent
- 00:32:23that it can really tell whether or not
- 00:32:25you've used like a generative AI engine
- 00:32:27is back to that like spam filter race
- 00:32:31sometimes we think there there's an
- 00:32:33ability to figure out sometimes the
- 00:32:35technology
- 00:32:37um is advancing and sort of like where
- 00:32:39it's going in the future I don't know
- 00:32:41but right now I'd say if you listen to
- 00:32:43The Experts I think they would say it's
- 00:32:45we do not have a hundred percent
- 00:32:47accurate way to detect and catch AI
- 00:32:51which to me means that the individual
- 00:32:53user has even more uh significance and
- 00:32:57sort of the ethical consideration of
- 00:33:00fair use and again this is a tool that
- 00:33:03can be harnessed for incredible good
- 00:33:05right but it also can be a tool where if
- 00:33:08too many people use it to cheat you're
- 00:33:10gonna see a lot of educational
- 00:33:12organizations like lock it up and not
- 00:33:15take full advantage of it and so I feel
- 00:33:17like as a community of Learners let's
- 00:33:19let's all Embrace doing our own thinking
- 00:33:22and our own learning using AI is an
- 00:33:25incredible tutoring tool but not as a
- 00:33:27means to do the work for us because then
- 00:33:29like what do you really gain right so
- 00:33:32that's a long answer Jess but I just
- 00:33:34felt it was worth expounding on I got
- 00:33:36into education hearing myself talk if
- 00:33:37you can't you can't tell
- 00:33:40no that makes 100 sense and and I think
- 00:33:43that that was important to cover and I
- 00:33:45think in a lot of what you said earlier
- 00:33:48too you know at the end of the day you
- 00:33:51have to do the learning like there are
- 00:33:52no shortcuts in life even if you use AI
- 00:33:56or other methods of cheating to you know
- 00:33:58get through your schoolwork or get
- 00:34:00through whatever you're working on
- 00:34:01You're Gonna Get You know it's the karma
- 00:34:04will come back to you later on like you
- 00:34:06still will need to have that knowledge
- 00:34:08for your career or for your life so you
- 00:34:12know really it is about doing the
- 00:34:13learning but just using AI to expand it
- 00:34:16not to
- 00:34:18block you from actually you know doing
- 00:34:20the right thing in your education yeah
- 00:34:23that's right absolutely so I think that
- 00:34:26being said there's a lot of ways that
- 00:34:28you know we covered on how to use AI
- 00:34:30with your education to empower it and
- 00:34:32support it and a lot of what you spoke
- 00:34:35about today but there are also ways to
- 00:34:38use AI to support it you know in your
- 00:34:41education like in task organizations but
- 00:34:43then in your life and in your career
- 00:34:46um so can you talk a little bit about
- 00:34:48why you should learn more about Ai and
- 00:34:51use it in your life
- 00:34:53yeah I mean I mean it in terms of like a
- 00:34:57productivity tool I mean this I don't
- 00:35:00think we've seen anything right quite
- 00:35:02like this and so 100 like we've covered
- 00:35:05how you use AI for more explicit
- 00:35:07learning and like an educational
- 00:35:09environment
- 00:35:10but you know there's this slogan that
- 00:35:12like AI is not ai's not I mean yes it's
- 00:35:16going it's going to automate and display
- 00:35:18some jobs right it's also going to
- 00:35:20create
- 00:35:21a lot of new jobs I I think though the
- 00:35:24the saying is that what AI is really
- 00:35:26going to disrupt is the folks that are
- 00:35:29not using AI as a productivity tool
- 00:35:32right that's who's really going to be at
- 00:35:35risk but the individual right who has
- 00:35:37their own sort of call it like the human
- 00:35:39expertise and skill set
- 00:35:42powered with like AI that to me is where
- 00:35:46like the magic is and so just a simple
- 00:35:48example right I mean imagine let's say
- 00:35:50you're a web developer or you're a coder
- 00:35:53right I mean AI has the capability to
- 00:35:57help you create code right or to help
- 00:36:00you create web you know content and so
- 00:36:05using it in your job is going to become
- 00:36:08in my opinion I mean and obviously
- 00:36:10certain trades more so than others but
- 00:36:11it's it's almost going to become again I
- 00:36:13keep going back to the example of like
- 00:36:14when was the last time you used a paper
- 00:36:16map right yeah it's gonna just almost
- 00:36:18become common it's just like what we do
- 00:36:21just like it's so often that we use the
- 00:36:23internet or a computer in a lot of our
- 00:36:26jobs I mean literally it's going to be
- 00:36:27that common but I think if you can get
- 00:36:28in early right now you can really
- 00:36:30distinguish
- 00:36:31um and separate yourself I was talking
- 00:36:32to a good friend of mine this weekend
- 00:36:34who happens to be
- 00:36:36um uh own a small investing firm and
- 00:36:39they focus really on sociable socially
- 00:36:41responsible investing he's never really
- 00:36:43used AI before I was like have it write
- 00:36:45you a business plan have it draft you
- 00:36:47weekly Communications and we just went
- 00:36:49down the list he's like oh my gosh
- 00:36:51because I never knew all the
- 00:36:52possibilities so absolutely to work but
- 00:36:55same is true of life right I mean you
- 00:36:58want to learn about gardening you wanna
- 00:37:00you wanna know tips on how to like coach
- 00:37:03kids in sports I mean it's like a much
- 00:37:07more sophisticated version of Google
- 00:37:09because the insight and the feedback
- 00:37:12that you get is far more tailored and I
- 00:37:15would argue at least currently less
- 00:37:16economically motivated meaning that like
- 00:37:19someone didn't pay to have what they
- 00:37:21think rise to the top
- 00:37:23um of the search so I I really think
- 00:37:26that not only can AI be a huge benefit
- 00:37:28for education but it can be a huge
- 00:37:30benefit in life and career 100 percent
- 00:37:34I think in a lot of what you just said
- 00:37:36too it seems like AI can be useful and
- 00:37:38kind of giving you the base like
- 00:37:39figuring out the base business plan
- 00:37:41figuring out the outline of your paper
- 00:37:43and then it leaves you with a lot more
- 00:37:45room for creativity to figure out how to
- 00:37:48really take that base and make it
- 00:37:50something special and get curious and
- 00:37:53and you know pour your life experience
- 00:37:55and creativity and your heart in it and
- 00:37:57I think that that's really cool that it
- 00:37:59saves you the time and you know how to
- 00:38:02do something and then you get to use
- 00:38:04your critical thinking abilities to fill
- 00:38:06in the rest
- 00:38:08I think that's it I mean I think that's
- 00:38:10I think that's my hope where we go
- 00:38:14awesome
- 00:38:16well
- 00:38:19I just feel like I I learned so much and
- 00:38:23I'm sure everybody watching feels the
- 00:38:25exact same way I mean we could sit here
- 00:38:27and talk about this for hours and hours
- 00:38:29especially with someone with as much
- 00:38:31expertise as you Andy so just genuinely
- 00:38:34thank you from me and Lauren and
- 00:38:36everybody watching for taking the time
- 00:38:38to to talk about this like super
- 00:38:40important relevant kind of ambiguous
- 00:38:44topic
- 00:38:45um for our our Facebook audience it's
- 00:38:48been really great
- 00:38:49that's great thanks Justin Lauren even
- 00:38:52if I could maybe just one thing to the
- 00:38:53audience just to like maybe end with
- 00:38:56like the significance here uh the CEO of
- 00:38:59Google uh recently said that the gender
- 00:39:01of uh AI technology is more significant
- 00:39:05breakthrough than electricity
- 00:39:07so those are not that's not someone who
- 00:39:10just goes out and says stuff that says
- 00:39:12it right so that's a significant comment
- 00:39:15and I just encourage you to take that in
- 00:39:18for a second and then think about the
- 00:39:20fact that we're kind of in the early
- 00:39:21days of this and so lean in right think
- 00:39:25about right think about embracing it and
- 00:39:28getting curious and maybe even getting
- 00:39:30excited because you know especially from
- 00:39:32a learning perspective I think the
- 00:39:34possibilities are tremendously exciting
- 00:39:37and I really hope you take advantage of
- 00:39:39it
- 00:39:41that's a really good insight and advice
- 00:39:43thank you so much for sharing that thank
- 00:39:45you for joining us I'm sure we'll have a
- 00:39:47follow-up conversation about this a year
- 00:39:49from now and who knows what'll change
- 00:39:51with how fast uh AI is developing but
- 00:39:54this was an awesome conversation today
- 00:39:56thank you so much Andy thank you for
- 00:39:57everyone watching we hope you all dabble
- 00:39:59in Ai and take the time to learn more
- 00:40:02about it and we'll be sharing more from
- 00:40:04the Penn Foster side as as we come up
- 00:40:07with resources and ways to help you use
- 00:40:10it
- 00:40:11all right thanks everyone everyone see
- 00:40:14you next time bye
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