Fundamentalism UnPacked: Beliefs, Power & Impact by Atifa
Resumen
TLDRThis masterclass session, hosted by Isa, covers various aspects of fundamentalism, focusing on its definitions, historical roots, and its proliferation in contemporary society. It examines the interplay between fundamentalism, political structures, and the impact of modernization, specifically in the context of the United States. The session also delves into the reactionary nature of fundamentalism, discussing how it manifests across various religions, including Christianity and Islam. With an emphasis on theories within political development, the session encourages critical thought on the implications of fundamentalism in contemporary debates and governance, ultimately providing insights for application in future discussions.
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- 📖 Definition of Fundamentalism: A strict belief in the inherent truth of religious texts.
- 🌍 Historical Context: 1920s saw fundamentalism rise due to reactions against modernization.
- 🔍 Key Mechanism: Violence against perceived threats to traditional beliefs.
- ✝️ Christian vs. Islamic Fundamentalism: Both exhibit similar patterns in resisting modernity.
- 📉 Political Nature: Fundamentalism often intersects with governance, influencing political behavior.
- 🛡️ Defense Mechanism: Fundamentalism can increase in response to fear of losing religious identity.
- 🔄 Reactionary Nature: Fundamentalism is often a response to change rather than an ideological stance.
- 💡 Modernization's Impact: Growing secularism challenges but does not eliminate fundamental tendencies.
- 🌐 Global Phenomenon: Fundamentalism exists in various cultures and religions beyond Christianity.
- 📊 Relevance in Debates: Understanding fundamentalism is crucial for navigating political and social discussions.
Cronología
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The session begins with an introduction to Atifa Van, a member of the Malaysian team, and the seminar topic of 'Fundamentalism Unpacked: Beliefs, Power, and Impact'. Isa, an IM student and speaker, shares his background and sets the agenda for the lecture focusing on defining fundamentalism and its significance in political landscapes.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Isa references Jonathan J. Edwards' definition of fundamentalism, emphasizing the belief in the inherent truth of scripture, the idea of premillennialism, and the unquestionable nature of these beliefs. The session outlines how fundamentalism often arises in reaction to perceived threats against shared beliefs, leading to collective movements.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
The structure of the lecture continues with an exploration of how fundamentalism manifests and mobilizes, guided by community intimacy, recognition of threats, and unified actions against this perceived negation. The speaker relates this to both religious movements and wider social movements like Black Lives Matter.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
As the discussion evolves, Isa elaborates on the historical context of fundamentalism, contrasting its rise in the US and UK, while underscoring the influence of modernity and tradition on its development, positing that fundamentalism often functions in reaction to modernization, using the US Protestant movement as a primary example.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
The lecture then transitions to discuss the growth of fundamentalism in the 20th century, driven partly by the industrialization and modernization of society, and the particular cultural pockets formed among Protestant communities. Isa notes the role of the interchurch movement in this context and the push against centralization.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Isa contrasts the acceptance of modernization in Catholicism versus the resistance in Protestantism, highlighting fundamentalism's roots and development in America during the 1920s. The interchurch movement is described as a threat to individual church autonomy, fueling the rise of fundamentalism as a counter movement.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
In discussing fundamentalism today, Isa argues that events such as 9/11 and the Trump presidency reflect a revival of fundamentalist sentiments as political identities became intertwined with religious ideologies. The speaker cites fundamentalism's defensive nature and its resurgence in political discourse during contemporary times.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Isa presents the notion that fundamentalism is often reactionary, emerging in response to perceived threats from modernity and secularism. This creates a cycle of rise and fall, with each new societal challenge reinvigorating fundamentalist ideologies, particularly in the context of identity politics.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
The conversation then shifts to fundamentalism outside of Christianity, discussing examples like Islamic fundamentalism, Hindu nationalism, and their manifestations across different cultures and political systems, illustrating that fundamentalism is not confined to one religion.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
The lecture concludes with a discussion on applying the understanding of fundamentalism in debate motions, framing debates around religious authority, the implications of religious education, and the impacts of secular governance, emphasizing the inherent connection between fundamental beliefs and political power.
- 00:50:00 - 00:56:42
Finally, the audience is engaged through questions and discussions about the definitions and implications of fundamentalism, the influence of modernity, and the political nature of fundamentalist movements. The session wraps up with thanks and acknowledgment of Isa's insightful presentation.
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Vídeo de preguntas y respuestas
What is fundamentalism?
Fundamentalism is often defined as a strict adherence to specific theological doctrines, particularly in relation to scripture, where followers believe their religious texts are inherently true and beyond question.
How did the 1920s influence the rise of fundamentalism?
The 1920s saw significant modernization, prompting a reactionary movement among certain Protestant groups in the US, who felt marginalized by centralized religious movements.
Is fundamentalism solely a Christian phenomenon?
No, fundamentalism exists in many religions, including Islam (e.g., Islamic fundamentalism) and Hinduism (e.g., Hindutva).
How does fundamentalism relate to modernity?
Fundamentalism often emerges in reaction to modernity, with fundamentalists striving to return to what they see as traditional practices and beliefs.
What role does fear play in the rise of fundamentalist movements?
Fear of losing religious identity or moral decay often motivates individuals to adopt fundamentalist beliefs as a form of defensive reaction.
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- 00:00:05hello and welcome you all to the ideal
- 00:00:07master class with atifa Van just to give
- 00:00:10a bit of idea of who they are they are
- 00:00:12the member of the maladian team of w WC
- 00:00:16of 2025 and they were the fifth best ESL
- 00:00:19speaker and the session that they are
- 00:00:21going to take today is fundamentalism
- 00:00:23unct beliefs power and impact we are so
- 00:00:26happy to have you here and hoping to
- 00:00:29have a wonderful session handing it over
- 00:00:33TOA hi everyone so my name Isa a quick
- 00:00:37introduction um I'm an IM student I
- 00:00:40competed at WDC and alhamdulillah
- 00:00:43managed to break and yeah I'm here to
- 00:00:47teach on fundamentalism tonight so I'm
- 00:00:50gonna quickly share my screen I'm not oh
- 00:00:54yeah I do have permission one
- 00:00:57second okay I need to send a request
- 00:00:59first
- 00:01:13okay all right so it's just
- 00:01:17a one
- 00:01:24slide all right just checking that my
- 00:01:26screen can be seen
- 00:01:33um it isn't visible it's not visible
- 00:01:36yeah it's just showing that you have
- 00:01:37started your screen sharing so would you
- 00:01:39mind do it again yeah it's it's visible
- 00:01:42now oh wait I think I know what the
- 00:01:44problem
- 00:01:46is it's visible
- 00:01:49now uh yeah but if I full screen you
- 00:01:51can't see anymore right can you see it
- 00:01:53now no no we did uh can you try a full
- 00:01:55screening
- 00:01:56now yeah it's on full screen now can you
- 00:01:58see it yeah n
- 00:02:00works all right okay so what I'm going
- 00:02:04to be teaching tonight is fundamentalism
- 00:02:07unpacked beliefs power and impacts so a
- 00:02:10quick backstory I was inspired to do
- 00:02:12this based on my class for theories of
- 00:02:14political
- 00:02:15development where we kind of just
- 00:02:17learned about like how different
- 00:02:19countries develop in general and what
- 00:02:22factors can lead to that development one
- 00:02:24of them being religion especially when
- 00:02:26it comes to nation building the way that
- 00:02:28National politics looks can vary vastly
- 00:02:32based on what the voter landscape is and
- 00:02:36when religion is involved even in more
- 00:02:38secular states such as the us or the UK
- 00:02:40um those things still have very very
- 00:02:42prominent impacts towards the political
- 00:02:44landscape of said country so the first
- 00:02:48thing that I kind of want to think about
- 00:02:49is what do you think about when you hear
- 00:02:51the term fundamentalism so let's just
- 00:02:53like think about it for a second and you
- 00:02:56guys are free to like pop up raise your
- 00:02:58hand and share what you think
- 00:02:59fundamentalism is before we start just
- 00:03:01so I can get a gist of what our
- 00:03:03beginning ideas are coming into this
- 00:03:19lecture yeah sure go ahead your
- 00:03:26te oh there's a chat okay I don't know
- 00:03:29if you can see if I open the chat yeah
- 00:03:31fixed ideology I think we to anyone
- 00:03:42else yeah I think when we think of uh
- 00:03:45fundamentalism The Habit that we kind of
- 00:03:48jump into is simply the idea of religion
- 00:03:51full stop so what we're going to cover
- 00:03:54in this lecture is to what extent does
- 00:03:57fundamentalism actually expand and
- 00:03:59through like these mechanisms that we
- 00:04:02learn of fundamentalism expanding we're
- 00:04:04going to try and apply that to actual
- 00:04:07debate motions near the end so here's
- 00:04:11the oh here's the agenda or like the
- 00:04:14contents of tonight's lecture the first
- 00:04:16thing we're going to do is to Define
- 00:04:17fundamentalism so this is not just
- 00:04:19defining fundamentalism itself it's also
- 00:04:21like how fundamentalism forms and what
- 00:04:24theories are out there about
- 00:04:26fundamentalism if you're unclear what
- 00:04:27fundamentalism is it'll be explained in
- 00:04:29a second so don't worry the second is on
- 00:04:31the origins of fundamentalism where it
- 00:04:33came from how it expanded and how it got
- 00:04:35to where it is today third is the growth
- 00:04:37of fundamentalism where it stands now
- 00:04:40lastly the last two things are going to
- 00:04:41be fundamentalism Beyond Christianity
- 00:04:43because the study of fundamentalism is
- 00:04:46mostly on Christianity but we're going
- 00:04:48to see how it applies to other religions
- 00:04:49and whether or not they follow the same
- 00:04:50pattern and lastly is the conclusion and
- 00:04:53key takeaways and that's where we're
- 00:04:54going to try and apply everything that
- 00:04:56we learn to a couple of
- 00:04:58motions Okay so so let's start with
- 00:05:00defining fundamentalism if I'm ever too
- 00:05:03fast just let me know so I'm going to
- 00:05:06specifically cite a study by um Jonathan
- 00:05:10J Edwards where he defines
- 00:05:12fundamentalism as a principle belief
- 00:05:14that the Bible is inherently true and
- 00:05:16without error obviously this particular
- 00:05:18study was referencing Christian
- 00:05:20fundamentalism but I think even if we
- 00:05:22were going to apply it to things like
- 00:05:24Islam or Hinduism it would still kind of
- 00:05:27follow the same gist which is basically
- 00:05:30a belief a principal belief specifically
- 00:05:32meaning that regardless of what happens
- 00:05:34around you you still believe that your
- 00:05:36scripture is inherently true and without
- 00:05:38error therefore cannot be questioned um
- 00:05:41it follows a belief of premillennialism
- 00:05:43which is an idea that the deterioration
- 00:05:46of spirituality is an inevitable event
- 00:05:49so here we can see the key themes of
- 00:05:50fundamentalism already which means
- 00:05:52regardless of what type of
- 00:05:53fundamentalist you are or to what extent
- 00:05:55you practice fundamentalism you are
- 00:05:57likely to still believe in these two
- 00:06:00things which is one that whatever
- 00:06:02religion you're following is true 100%
- 00:06:04And any questioning of it is probably
- 00:06:05going to be perceived as a threat but
- 00:06:08secondly um that people are going to
- 00:06:11walk away from this path over time and
- 00:06:13you know you need to fight against it so
- 00:06:15the specific thing I want to point out
- 00:06:17is that in my opinion fundamentalism is
- 00:06:20one of the best
- 00:06:22documented U materializations of A
- 00:06:25Collective Dogma what do I mean when I
- 00:06:27say Dogma I mean a group of indiv ual or
- 00:06:30at least an individual who truly truly
- 00:06:33believes that something is true to an
- 00:06:36extent where they don't view it to be
- 00:06:38something as unquestioned as sorry they
- 00:06:40don't view it to be something that can
- 00:06:42be questioned and you know how sometimes
- 00:06:46you kind of just Gaslight yourself into
- 00:06:48believing something is true I think if
- 00:06:49any of us are religious we will
- 00:06:51understand the idea that you're
- 00:06:53indoctrinated to an extent where even
- 00:06:54just questioning that religion makes you
- 00:06:56feel some sense of guilt so
- 00:06:58fundamentalism is the outcome of a bunch
- 00:07:01of people doing that at the same time
- 00:07:03meeting each other and you know kind of
- 00:07:05sticking together to fight for that
- 00:07:06cause a couple of questions which exist
- 00:07:09in Academia include whether or not
- 00:07:11fundamentalism is something which is
- 00:07:13truly political uh whether it's an
- 00:07:15intellectual ideology or something which
- 00:07:17is reactionary and we're going to
- 00:07:18explore this in a second but just as a
- 00:07:21quick introduction um when I say whether
- 00:07:24or not when I ask whether or not it's
- 00:07:26inherently political the question is if
- 00:07:29you believe believe that the Bible is
- 00:07:30inherently true does that have anything
- 00:07:32to do with the country's governance is
- 00:07:34it something which should be imposed on
- 00:07:36a country's governance what you will
- 00:07:38find throughout this lecture is that in
- 00:07:40a lot of cases or at least in the cases
- 00:07:42which seem to matter most a lot of the
- 00:07:44time it has been considered to be
- 00:07:46political and to be relevant to a
- 00:07:47country's governance at least to a
- 00:07:49certain extent in terms of whether or
- 00:07:51not it is intellectual or reactionary
- 00:07:53and by reactionary I simply mean that
- 00:07:55like is it if I think cause is it
- 00:07:57someone something which mobilizes people
- 00:07:59to go on the street or whether it's
- 00:08:01simply just an ideology which exists in
- 00:08:03books it seems to be a mix of both in
- 00:08:05other words the intellectual ideology of
- 00:08:07fundamentalism seems to fuel the
- 00:08:09reactionary nature of the movement um
- 00:08:12but the number of people who engage in
- 00:08:13it as an ideology seems to be much much
- 00:08:16bigger than those who are actually
- 00:08:18reactionary the best documented example
- 00:08:20of this would be the American Protestant
- 00:08:22Christians so one thing that we need to
- 00:08:25get made clear from the beginning is the
- 00:08:27difference between Protestants and
- 00:08:29Catholics if any of this is not 100%
- 00:08:32correct and somebody knows it's not 100%
- 00:08:34correct I hope you forgive me because
- 00:08:36I'm not Christian but based on what I've
- 00:08:38read Protestant oh sorry Catholic
- 00:08:41Catholics are essentially the sect of
- 00:08:44Christianity which believe that religion
- 00:08:47is something which can evolve with time
- 00:08:49not necessarily evolve but can adapt and
- 00:08:51can survive throughout
- 00:08:53modernization Protestants are people who
- 00:08:55often believe that we cannot stray from
- 00:08:59the old ways or from the traditions of
- 00:09:01Christianity and therefore they're more
- 00:09:03likely to be fundamentalists um in fact
- 00:09:06the biggest fundamentalist movement
- 00:09:08which we're going to learn about in a
- 00:09:09second in the 1920s in the US were a
- 00:09:12Protestant movement and to this day
- 00:09:15Protestants are often more political
- 00:09:17than
- 00:09:18Catholics okay so the specific mechanism
- 00:09:23that I want to introduce in this lecture
- 00:09:25is how fundamentalism kind of mobilizes
- 00:09:28inov self and this is a very interesting
- 00:09:32um Theory brought up by a scholar name
- 00:09:35that I cited just now Jonathan J Edwards
- 00:09:37so he puts out three steps which help to
- 00:09:42Define fundamentalism as a counter
- 00:09:44movement the thing about this counter
- 00:09:48movement and this is not necessarily
- 00:09:49just fundamentalism but fundamentalism
- 00:09:52is a counter movement because of the
- 00:09:54flow that it followed it is the idea
- 00:09:56that there is it begins with a common
- 00:09:58intimacy so these people in this group
- 00:10:01they share this common Intimacy in this
- 00:10:03particular case it's often the love for
- 00:10:05J sorry the love for Jesus the Bible if
- 00:10:08you a Muslim it would be you know the
- 00:10:09belief in the Quran and this isn't and
- 00:10:11I'll extend a bit more about how this
- 00:10:13isn't just religion in a second the
- 00:10:15second is the observation that there has
- 00:10:18been a negation of this Unity which
- 00:10:21previously led to a form of intimacy so
- 00:10:26if you believed in the Bible the second
- 00:10:29step before you become a c movement
- 00:10:31would be realizing that there are a
- 00:10:33bunch of people going against the Bible
- 00:10:36or no longer following the scripture so
- 00:10:39that becomes the previous Unity that you
- 00:10:42have you feel as if it is something
- 00:10:44which has been betrayed and that hurts
- 00:10:46you because that was your common
- 00:10:48intimacy that's what you had in common
- 00:10:49that's what made everyone brothers and
- 00:10:51sisters in this religion and then lastly
- 00:10:55as a result of that negation comes the
- 00:10:57invoking of a new unity in which this
- 00:11:00group of people who have noticed that
- 00:11:03their previous intimacy has been negated
- 00:11:06now feels um motivated to form this new
- 00:11:10form of collectivization or this new
- 00:11:12group of individuals whose key role is
- 00:11:15to fight against the negation of unity
- 00:11:18which has happened in the past when we
- 00:11:20look at fundamentalism you'll see this
- 00:11:22pattern in which these people they have
- 00:11:24the common intimacy that being you know
- 00:11:27the Bible and Jesus Christ and then it
- 00:11:29feels like that's been negated as people
- 00:11:31tend to stray away as you know when we
- 00:11:34talk about Catholics and Protestants
- 00:11:36Catholics seem to be straying away
- 00:11:38because they're more willing to embrace
- 00:11:40modernity and because of that you feel
- 00:11:42the need to to collectivize and fight
- 00:11:45against the negation of that unity and
- 00:11:47people stringing away pull them back to
- 00:11:49the right path and there's a specific
- 00:11:50word for it it's like rebirth or
- 00:11:52something if I'm not
- 00:11:53mistaken um and this will also be common
- 00:11:57in other forms of fundamentalism like
- 00:11:59Islamic fundamentalism especially if the
- 00:12:00religion is a um what's it called
- 00:12:03missionary in which you the goal of the
- 00:12:05religion is to spread the religion in
- 00:12:07Islam we also see people believe in the
- 00:12:09Quran so and so forth we and then
- 00:12:11there's a negation people feel like
- 00:12:13people are spraying away from the Quran
- 00:12:14you know people are starting to not
- 00:12:16dress or cover up the way that they used
- 00:12:17to and therefore invokes a new form of
- 00:12:20unity in which we have all of these like
- 00:12:22really really conservative Muslims
- 00:12:23fighting for their place in governance
- 00:12:25and politics but again this isn't just
- 00:12:27limited to religion if you were to look
- 00:12:29at other movements in general things
- 00:12:32like um black lives matter there was
- 00:12:34always this common intimacy the idea
- 00:12:36that oh black people deserve to have a
- 00:12:38place in America that was negated the
- 00:12:40moment in which um George Floy was
- 00:12:43killed by a police officer in which you
- 00:12:44notice that the intimacy that America as
- 00:12:46a whole had has in fact been betrayed
- 00:12:49therefore invokes a new unity and you
- 00:12:51will notice this patent over and over
- 00:12:53again I'm saying this now because I feel
- 00:12:55like this is an incredibly important
- 00:12:57Concept in debate in which when you talk
- 00:13:00about what motivates people to mobilize
- 00:13:02what is the Tipping Point that causes
- 00:13:04people to care enough to get on the
- 00:13:06street and fight for
- 00:13:10something um I'll get to that in a
- 00:13:12second and fight for
- 00:13:13something this is one of the ways in
- 00:13:16which you can prove that Tipping Point
- 00:13:18that will cause people to actually
- 00:13:20mobilize against something to answer the
- 00:13:22question on whether or not
- 00:13:23fundamentalism is always against
- 00:13:24modernity in a lot of cases yes um but
- 00:13:27we'll we'll Define modernity in a second
- 00:13:30and what that really means to be against
- 00:13:36modernity okay so here's a new question
- 00:13:39on whether or not uh fundamentalism is a
- 00:13:42product of modernity or tradition let's
- 00:13:45define tradition and modernity first
- 00:13:47when we talk about tradition in most
- 00:13:49cases we're talking about the olden days
- 00:13:52essentially so like for Christianity
- 00:13:54this was the age where church had
- 00:13:56significant governmental power and
- 00:13:57political power um in countries like
- 00:14:00Malaysia this is probably like right
- 00:14:02after Independence when you know mutis
- 00:14:05and religious leaders had a lot of power
- 00:14:07and were able to influence people there
- 00:14:09was that sense of control by these
- 00:14:11religious institutions when we compare
- 00:14:13that with
- 00:14:17modernity when we compare that with
- 00:14:19modernity modernity is essentially the
- 00:14:21idea
- 00:14:23that basically time should progress and
- 00:14:25therefore ethics should progress because
- 00:14:27if you were to learn if you were to take
- 00:14:29a little bit deeper into like the study
- 00:14:31of Ethics you will notice that ethics is
- 00:14:34something which is constantly uh
- 00:14:37evolving and often we consider that to
- 00:14:40be a sign of modern sorry we often
- 00:14:43consider that to be a sign of
- 00:14:44modernization as the world progresses as
- 00:14:47life gets better people are better able
- 00:14:49to question what is right and what is
- 00:14:51wrong people are better able to question
- 00:14:54themselves on what their identity
- 00:14:56is um and therefore you know you know
- 00:14:59the world modernizes and so do ethics
- 00:15:01when we question whether or not
- 00:15:03fundamentalism itself is a product of
- 00:15:05modernity or tradition the argument for
- 00:15:07tradition is the idea that
- 00:15:08fundamentalism is actually the struggle
- 00:15:11to return to Divine practice so we're
- 00:15:12trying to go back and it's motivated by
- 00:15:15a fear of eventually detaching from the
- 00:15:17scripture this can be seen even in cases
- 00:15:19of like just trying to preserve holy
- 00:15:21scriptures things like the Bible and the
- 00:15:22Quran so that would be the theory that
- 00:15:24it comes from tradition when you
- 00:15:27consider um
- 00:15:30modernity and this is the opinion that I
- 00:15:32prefer but both are going to be useful
- 00:15:34in debates as to how these groups
- 00:15:35function modernity people argue sorry
- 00:15:39Scholars have argued that as the economy
- 00:15:41got better and people had better
- 00:15:42purchasing power as the world as a whole
- 00:15:45economy started increasing the middle
- 00:15:47class specifically was responded by
- 00:15:50seeking their personal identities
- 00:15:53because now that you're not like working
- 00:15:54in a coal mine 24/7 you can think about
- 00:15:57what type of person you want to be in
- 00:15:59this world independent of the things
- 00:16:00that you're forced to do because you
- 00:16:02have that free time and the luxury of
- 00:16:03having enough money to have that sort of
- 00:16:05free time but secondly one Trend that we
- 00:16:08see as time goes on is the idea that
- 00:16:12there is a certain type of knowledge
- 00:16:14which is more valuable than scriptures
- 00:16:17specifically empirical or scientific
- 00:16:19knowledge so it is these individuals who
- 00:16:22received more recognition and you know
- 00:16:24just more legitimacy in society the
- 00:16:26modern reaction that we saw which helped
- 00:16:29fuel fundamentalism into what it is
- 00:16:31today is the Feeling by these religious
- 00:16:33leaders or religious individuals that
- 00:16:35they also needed to prove themselves to
- 00:16:38be empirical and to reach that level of
- 00:16:40modern cultural relevance therefore
- 00:16:43causing them to try to return to the
- 00:16:45fundamentals through Modern ways such as
- 00:16:48the publication of many different books
- 00:16:50that we're going to look at in a second
- 00:16:52but lastly and this is more like
- 00:16:54wishiwashi but it's actually very
- 00:16:56intuitive if you think about it as the
- 00:16:58war Dres like as the towers get taller
- 00:17:01as the cars get faster it is pretty
- 00:17:04natural for any religious person to feel
- 00:17:06like the end is near because most
- 00:17:08religions denote that as the world gets
- 00:17:11more uh gets more modern the um the end
- 00:17:16is going to be there like I'm Muslim so
- 00:17:17we believe that if people are racing to
- 00:17:19build the tallest tower then the world
- 00:17:22is going to end soon and that's why
- 00:17:23whenever something is taller than the BJ
- 00:17:25Khalifa I will go to Hajj immediately so
- 00:17:29this is some of the reasons of
- 00:17:31modernization that lead to people
- 00:17:33returning to
- 00:17:35fundamentalism I'm going to answer some
- 00:17:36of the questions in the chat um firstly
- 00:17:41on against modernism um in typical cases
- 00:17:45yes if you follow the theory that it is
- 00:17:46in fact a counter movement and it is
- 00:17:48reactionary then typically
- 00:17:50fundamentalism is in fact always against
- 00:17:52modernism because fundamentalism is
- 00:17:55believed to have started existing in the
- 00:17:571920s so back the question question what
- 00:17:59was the Tipping Point in the 1920s and
- 00:18:01for most of the world the Tipping Point
- 00:18:04was modernization this is around the
- 00:18:06time when things like cars started to
- 00:18:08exist modern jobs a lot of big big
- 00:18:10corporations started to exist at the
- 00:18:12time life before that was just like
- 00:18:13universities and horses right so this
- 00:18:15modernization is something which
- 00:18:18triggered a lot of Christian groups
- 00:18:20particularly Protestants to go against
- 00:18:23modernism through fundamentalism the
- 00:18:26extent as to which they felt like it was
- 00:18:29actually a threat is to the point where
- 00:18:31they were willing to be militant and
- 00:18:32militant does not mean the Army it means
- 00:18:35like kind of like aggressive in nature
- 00:18:38going on the street you know really
- 00:18:40really pressing politicians this is what
- 00:18:41we call
- 00:18:42militant um the second question is
- 00:18:45sustainability uh fundamentalism as
- 00:18:48belief that past natural systems better
- 00:18:50yeah the idea that the past natural
- 00:18:51system was better is typically one of
- 00:18:53the motivations especially since you're
- 00:18:54trying to return to traditional
- 00:18:56practices which were common back then um
- 00:18:59I wouldn't say on the question is
- 00:19:00fundamentalism just being Orthodox I
- 00:19:02wouldn't necessarily say that um it is
- 00:19:05not necessarily the complete rejection
- 00:19:07of what is happening now it's just I'd
- 00:19:10see the more common practice of
- 00:19:11fundamentalism is that you cannot let go
- 00:19:14of like old scriptures or like criticize
- 00:19:16scriptures in order to reach modernity
- 00:19:18it should be
- 00:19:19moderated in order to ensure that it
- 00:19:22does not go against scriptures um
- 00:19:24fundamentalism and conservatism I would
- 00:19:26say that fundamentalism is a form of
- 00:19:28conservatism so conservatism um like
- 00:19:32academically speaking is typically
- 00:19:34associated with literally conserving so
- 00:19:36it looks like not being willing to
- 00:19:38embrace change as much believing like
- 00:19:40the old days or the better days
- 00:19:41economically speaking conservatism is
- 00:19:43like more power to the free market less
- 00:19:46um what's it called government
- 00:19:47intervention so I wouldn't say that
- 00:19:50fundamentalism is sorry I wouldn't say
- 00:19:52that conservatism is fundamentalism but
- 00:19:54fundamentalism is conservatism they're
- 00:19:56not the same but they're closely related
- 00:19:58and I I would go far say that all
- 00:20:01fundamentalists are conservatives not
- 00:20:03all conservatives are
- 00:20:04fundamentalists uh the last question
- 00:20:06that we have right now is why does
- 00:20:08modernism lead to the idea that the end
- 00:20:09is nearing and what incentivizes people
- 00:20:11to return to fundamentalism the reason
- 00:20:14that modernism leads to the idea that
- 00:20:15the end is nearing is because this is
- 00:20:17typically what is denoted in scriptures
- 00:20:20um like obviously what I can site best
- 00:20:23is going to be Islam because I am a
- 00:20:24Muslim but in Islam there's a lot of key
- 00:20:27uh things about modernization which
- 00:20:29denote the idea that the end is near it
- 00:20:31looks like um the days being shorter it
- 00:20:33looks like like climate change happening
- 00:20:35right now uh because of pollution right
- 00:20:38but in the Quran that's also a sign like
- 00:20:39cold places becoming warm warm places
- 00:20:41becoming cold that's a sign of that that
- 00:20:43the end is near in Christianity the idea
- 00:20:46that people are starting to stray is
- 00:20:49also it's also a sign that the end is
- 00:20:52near judgment is near so a lot of
- 00:20:54scriptures like to quote modernization
- 00:20:56as a form of um like a sign that the end
- 00:21:00is near uh the incentive that people get
- 00:21:02to return I wouldn't use the word return
- 00:21:05but I would use the word turn to
- 00:21:08fundamentalism I would say that for the
- 00:21:10most part it would be fear when we think
- 00:21:13about it would be fear and defensiveness
- 00:21:16when we think about religion it's often
- 00:21:18it's a Dogma it's the thing that you
- 00:21:19believe in the most meaning that to a
- 00:21:24certain extent it's something which is
- 00:21:26unquestionable it's something that you
- 00:21:27must protect at all cost and that's why
- 00:21:30like all religions are so sensitive to
- 00:21:33any form of insult all religions are so
- 00:21:36sensitive to any form of like if you say
- 00:21:38that like oh I don't think your religion
- 00:21:39is real real that's so so so
- 00:21:41disrespectful the reality is I can't
- 00:21:43prove that my religion is real as much
- 00:21:45as I as anyone else cannot prove that it
- 00:21:47isn't real however I'm going to defend
- 00:21:49it with my life either way even though I
- 00:21:51can't give you any scientific evidence
- 00:21:53that is something which is true so the
- 00:21:56incentive is one the idea of protecting
- 00:21:58yourself from an increasingly secular
- 00:22:00World which is willing to question
- 00:22:03religion which can cause fundamentalists
- 00:22:06to become stronger and stronger in their
- 00:22:08actions um but secondly it's also a fear
- 00:22:12that the people around you will not
- 00:22:14benefit from Christ and Heaven the way
- 00:22:16that you wish for them to uh I'll do
- 00:22:18these next two questions before moving
- 00:22:20on to the next slide so uh there's
- 00:22:22another question which ask is there a
- 00:22:24study or data to show fundamentalism is
- 00:22:26growing or decreasing there are a few
- 00:22:28and if you're interested in going out
- 00:22:30and like reading up the best one that I
- 00:22:33can suggest is uh George Marsen he wrote
- 00:22:39what's the name of his
- 00:22:47book fundamentalism and American culture
- 00:22:51that's by George maren that's considered
- 00:22:53like the the most Canon piece on
- 00:22:57fundamentalism so and there's other
- 00:22:59pieces which I would recommend which is
- 00:23:01fundamentalism H and called George W
- 00:23:03bush and the return of the Sacred by
- 00:23:05Claus J milck so these are books which
- 00:23:09and studies which kind of go through the
- 00:23:11data
- 00:23:13specifically um yeah and we'll get
- 00:23:16there's a bit more data near the end of
- 00:23:18the lecture which we can cover also uh
- 00:23:21next question religion support
- 00:23:22fundamentalism is it because they
- 00:23:24believe modernization is against
- 00:23:26conservation since it creates a change
- 00:23:28yeah pretty much I think that's a good
- 00:23:29way of analyzing it leaving in the Bible
- 00:23:32and always tells the truth y uh elina's
- 00:23:35comment is correct never string away
- 00:23:36from tradition and fighting against
- 00:23:38modernisms that is a sign that the end
- 00:23:40is near yeah are people who practice
- 00:23:42more
- 00:23:42fundamentalism practicing atheism I
- 00:23:45wouldn't say so given that
- 00:23:46fundamentalism is dependent on believing
- 00:23:50in some sort of divine truth I don't
- 00:23:52think it's Pro possible to be atheist
- 00:23:54and fundamentalist at the same time but
- 00:23:56I do think it's possible to be atheist
- 00:23:58and conservative although I don't know
- 00:23:59what the motivation would be uh lastly
- 00:24:02do you think fundamentalism has
- 00:24:03decreased or increased due to the
- 00:24:05present globalized World which is so
- 00:24:07fastpaced and the fact that we can now
- 00:24:08get exposed to so many other ideologies
- 00:24:10and believe that's actually a really
- 00:24:12interesting question which we're going
- 00:24:13to answer near the end of this lecture
- 00:24:16on whether or not fundamentalism is
- 00:24:18returning or whether it never left at
- 00:24:21all so we'll get to that in a second and
- 00:24:23I'll try to remember it okay next part
- 00:24:26of the lecture is on the origin of
- 00:24:29fundamentalism so when we compare
- 00:24:33between oh okay when we analyze where
- 00:24:37exactly fundamentalism came from uh
- 00:24:41politically speaking there are two
- 00:24:42arguments one which believes that it was
- 00:24:44from America and one which believes that
- 00:24:46it was from the UK although this is
- 00:24:48something which is not resolved and I
- 00:24:50don't think it's worth analyzing I could
- 00:24:51be wrong maybe in 10 years I disagree
- 00:24:53with that statement but when we analyze
- 00:24:56whether or not it came from the US or
- 00:24:58the UK I think what's most important to
- 00:25:00analyze is what was the political state
- 00:25:02of these countries in the 1920s because
- 00:25:05fundamentalism is believed to have been
- 00:25:06born formerly in the 1920s in one of
- 00:25:09these two countries so if you were to
- 00:25:11look at the state that it was in and
- 00:25:14let's like think a second back in time
- 00:25:16during the 1920s the US was like
- 00:25:19industrializing quite fast growing in
- 00:25:22modernization sorry
- 00:25:28okay sorry um growing and modernization
- 00:25:31uh the government had been around for
- 00:25:33like almost a century at this point but
- 00:25:37when we look at the form of government
- 00:25:40that the US has formed under its um
- 00:25:45Constitution it is one which doesn't
- 00:25:48have an incredibly strong central power
- 00:25:52so the way the US has formed even though
- 00:25:54they have their Congress and like all
- 00:25:56the people in the White House they still
- 00:25:58give quite significant strength to their
- 00:26:01state governments meaning that and
- 00:26:03that's why when we look at the US like
- 00:26:05Texas and New York two different worlds
- 00:26:08like completely different beliefs
- 00:26:09completely different practices um I
- 00:26:12can't remember where Utah is somewhere
- 00:26:15there but Utah is like known to be like
- 00:26:16incredibly incredibly conservative like
- 00:26:19Mormons all live there so what we notice
- 00:26:22is that because there's no true Central
- 00:26:24Power and there's kind of a lot of
- 00:26:26freedom between the different states in
- 00:26:28how you want to govern that country it
- 00:26:31ends up being a very good place to form
- 00:26:33cultural Pockets by cultural Pockets I
- 00:26:36mean these small groups of
- 00:26:39um I mean these small groups of you know
- 00:26:43like communities which believe in all
- 00:26:45these different things for example the
- 00:26:48best example I can give you is like
- 00:26:50boarding schools tend to be cultural
- 00:26:52Pockets because you're secluded and you
- 00:26:54know you kind of have the power to do
- 00:26:55what you want you're more likely to have
- 00:26:57very
- 00:26:59um unique cultural practices within that
- 00:27:01small secluded area if you were to look
- 00:27:03at like the US um certain churches
- 00:27:07became their own cultural Pockets which
- 00:27:09could push their own ideologies because
- 00:27:11of the lack of control from the central
- 00:27:13government especially considering that
- 00:27:15in the US um you're not allowed to like
- 00:27:17endorse or really regulate
- 00:27:19these like religious institutions
- 00:27:22because of like the Constitution freedom
- 00:27:23of religion so and so forth so that
- 00:27:26allowed for things like fundamentalism
- 00:27:28once the ball started rolling which is
- 00:27:30what we're going to get to next Once the
- 00:27:31ball started rolling it was very easy
- 00:27:33for fundamentalists and people who
- 00:27:35believed in the push against
- 00:27:36modernization to kind of
- 00:27:38institutionalize themselves or in other
- 00:27:40words really attach themselves to the
- 00:27:43internal structures of the us whether
- 00:27:45it's through mega churches or prominent
- 00:27:47Protestant organizations when I say
- 00:27:49institutionalized what I'm saying is
- 00:27:51essentially they managed to become
- 00:27:53prominent enough to the extent where it
- 00:27:56would have been too expensive to stray
- 00:27:59from that path and this is what we call
- 00:28:00Path dependency essentially when you've
- 00:28:02built all of these churches when these
- 00:28:04religious leaders have become prominent
- 00:28:06in that area it's too difficult for a
- 00:28:09government or even the churches
- 00:28:11themselves to let go of these
- 00:28:13individuals or to kind of crush these
- 00:28:15ideologies because of how much it's kind
- 00:28:18of seeped into the structures of America
- 00:28:20at the time compare this with Great
- 00:28:22Britain as we know Great Britain doesn't
- 00:28:24have like a really strong Constitution
- 00:28:25it changes a lot meaning that there's a
- 00:28:27lot more freedom freedom for the
- 00:28:29government the central government to be
- 00:28:30like oh you can't do that and you can't
- 00:28:32do that and you can't do that either I'm
- 00:28:33going to change the Constitution now the
- 00:28:35one that doesn't exist um but also the
- 00:28:38political climate at the time back in
- 00:28:39the 1920s to like 1945 is um it was one
- 00:28:44which was much more open to criticism of
- 00:28:46the scripture and one of the big reasons
- 00:28:47for this is because the British monarch
- 00:28:50is mostly Catholic meaning that the
- 00:28:53ability for like the inherent belief of
- 00:28:56the biggest Christian Institution was
- 00:28:58one which is open to modernizing the
- 00:29:00scripture and you know modernizing the
- 00:29:02practice of Christianity in and of
- 00:29:04itself but secondly and what I think is
- 00:29:06really interesting is how secularism was
- 00:29:09viewed because in the US secularism was
- 00:29:12a threat to Christianity but in the UK
- 00:29:14and possibly because it's so much
- 00:29:16smaller and so much more diverse
- 00:29:18secularism is in fact a form of
- 00:29:21protection which means that if we
- 00:29:23separate the church to State then we can
- 00:29:25protect the church from being like
- 00:29:29misappropriated or like abused by these
- 00:29:32leaders or even weakening in strength so
- 00:29:36um going to this question is
- 00:29:38fundamentalism applied to the whole of
- 00:29:40America or only to the northern part as
- 00:29:42in South America we see that there is a
- 00:29:44diverse culture beliefs and one
- 00:29:53second sorry the a cat wants to come in
- 00:30:04okay in terms of the specific area it
- 00:30:06was more of the wher parts and I don't
- 00:30:09mean the Americans as a whole I mean the
- 00:30:11United States of America specifically
- 00:30:14but it would have been areas like Utah
- 00:30:16was well known to be very um
- 00:30:18fundamentalist at is till this day Texas
- 00:30:21is known to be quite fundamentalist so
- 00:30:22if you look at the demographic you can
- 00:30:24kind of already tell which area is more
- 00:30:26likely to be fundamentalist um even if
- 00:30:28you look at the voting map right now
- 00:30:30wherever is more Republican is more
- 00:30:32likely to be um is more likely to be
- 00:30:37fundamentalists or have a fundamentalist
- 00:30:38population on the question on how
- 00:30:41secularism protects um I
- 00:30:45think okay and this is me digging deep
- 00:30:47personally the reason why I as a Muslim
- 00:30:51or you know if I was to imagine myself
- 00:30:53as a Christian why I am pro- secularism
- 00:30:56is because I do not trust politicians
- 00:30:59with my religion so I believe that if if
- 00:31:03you are allowed to use religion in
- 00:31:06politics or if there is no separation of
- 00:31:09whatever religious institution whether
- 00:31:11it's the church or like Islam with the
- 00:31:13government I believe that politicians
- 00:31:15because of the way that they are and
- 00:31:17because of electoral Sciences will
- 00:31:19definitely abuse religion and therefore
- 00:31:22threaten my religion in terms of like
- 00:31:24the image of My Religion people are
- 00:31:26probably going to be less attracted to
- 00:31:27join My Religion because of the way it's
- 00:31:30being used in politics people are going
- 00:31:32to start like voting with people are
- 00:31:33going to become like more radical
- 00:31:36towards each other people will become
- 00:31:37more polarized against my religion
- 00:31:39because they dislike the way that it's
- 00:31:40being used in governance and therefore
- 00:31:43secularism for me and for these people
- 00:31:46you know Catholics in the UK secularism
- 00:31:48is in fact a form of protection against
- 00:31:50this sort of abuse of power um the last
- 00:31:53thing to note when it comes to Great
- 00:31:54Britain is how the channels of
- 00:31:56communication were actually quite
- 00:31:58different back then so what we mean by
- 00:32:00this is when you look at the UK and the
- 00:32:02type of universities they have they're
- 00:32:03pretty it's pretty crazy there right
- 00:32:04like Oxford has existed
- 00:32:07forever all of them have existed forever
- 00:32:09meaning that what is considered to be
- 00:32:12intellectual is very easy to find
- 00:32:15because there's like a couple of these
- 00:32:17very very big institutions which we
- 00:32:19trust to be the sources of
- 00:32:21intellectualism in this country what
- 00:32:23this means if that if you know Mr ABC to
- 00:32:28come forward and be like hey actually I
- 00:32:30believe in this it's incredibly easy for
- 00:32:32the intellectual channels in the UK to
- 00:32:34squash that ideology the formation of
- 00:32:37cultural politics oh sorry cultural
- 00:32:39politics sorry cultural pockets is much
- 00:32:42weaker because of these channels
- 00:32:44compared to the US where information was
- 00:32:46much more like can go where it wants
- 00:32:48people can spread it through their
- 00:32:49little cultural Pockets therefore
- 00:32:51allowing fundamentalism to spread okay
- 00:32:53any questions so far before I move on to
- 00:32:55the next part
- 00:33:06yeah I'm really sorry if the cat is
- 00:33:11noising fundamentalism exess in the USA
- 00:33:14how can idea spread easily um I think be
- 00:33:18careful when you think about the extent
- 00:33:20of fundamentalism I want to make it
- 00:33:21clear I'm not arguing that
- 00:33:23fundamentalism is like the core of
- 00:33:25American politics but it is definitely
- 00:33:27part of of American politics right now
- 00:33:29which means that even though
- 00:33:30fundamentalism has heavily spread itself
- 00:33:33in the US it doesn't mean that other
- 00:33:35things cannot or other ideas cannot
- 00:33:37spread themselves within the US so other
- 00:33:39ideas are still able to spread and
- 00:33:41fundamentalism at the end of the day is
- 00:33:42just another political motivation um at
- 00:33:46this point especially during its rise it
- 00:33:48didn't have any like legal power to this
- 00:33:50day it technically doesn't have any
- 00:33:52legal power unless a politician decides
- 00:33:54to follow through with it however it is
- 00:33:56an ideology which spreads and you or
- 00:33:57precious politicians to act in
- 00:33:59particular
- 00:34:01ways okay let's move on to the next part
- 00:34:04which is fundamentalisms rise to
- 00:34:07prominence so this I'm going to like
- 00:34:09site back something that I said earlier
- 00:34:11which is fundamentalists in the US
- 00:34:14specifically sought empirical
- 00:34:17rationalization and the reason for this
- 00:34:19is
- 00:34:20because one thing that happened in the
- 00:34:231920s was the um establishment of the
- 00:34:27interchurch World movement the goal of
- 00:34:29the interchurch world movement was to
- 00:34:32formally combine or like streamline
- 00:34:34protestantism into like one world
- 00:34:38movement what the people who started
- 00:34:40fundamentalism believed is that this is
- 00:34:43a form of marginalization because like
- 00:34:45if you centralize protestantism it means
- 00:34:48that you're going to give up power to
- 00:34:51other people essentially to decide your
- 00:34:54religion um so it's a little bit like
- 00:34:56you know how like Islam has like a
- 00:34:58Council internationally they were trying
- 00:35:00to do this with Protestants but
- 00:35:01Protestants felt like it wasn't a good
- 00:35:03idea because of the amount of power that
- 00:35:05it gave to other people to dictate their
- 00:35:08religion they much more preferred the
- 00:35:10local churches that they had this led to
- 00:35:13the release of like books like the
- 00:35:15fundamentals which is considered one of
- 00:35:16the earliest pieces of fundamentalist
- 00:35:19literature so fundament uh the
- 00:35:21fundamentals was volume after volume
- 00:35:23after volume of books which explained
- 00:35:25why fundamentalism is rational why why
- 00:35:27we must return why we must quite
- 00:35:29literally fight against modernization
- 00:35:33but additionally when you consider World
- 00:35:35War I and you know people literally
- 00:35:38facing war that idea of like the end is
- 00:35:41near and I might die tomorrow like
- 00:35:43increases so much to the extent what
- 00:35:45people feel like they're more willing to
- 00:35:47accept so there's two main things which
- 00:35:49contributed to the rise of
- 00:35:50fundamentalist prominence one is you
- 00:35:53know that fear of marginalization and
- 00:35:55the call from fundamentalist leaders for
- 00:35:57people to join fundamentalism but
- 00:35:59secondly the fear of this War caused
- 00:36:02people to be more theological and turn
- 00:36:04to religion leading to fundamentalism
- 00:36:07really having its roots in the
- 00:36:09US um so I'm seeing a question on does
- 00:36:12fundamentalism solely or mainly exists
- 00:36:14in America so it originated in America
- 00:36:16but eventually spread throughout the
- 00:36:17world you'll see it in most places
- 00:36:19honestly like a lot of Europe has a lot
- 00:36:22of Christian fundamentalism however um
- 00:36:25it is strongest in the US to this day
- 00:36:27and therefore when it comes to case
- 00:36:28studies on fundamentalism and trying to
- 00:36:30really show you the mechanisms of like a
- 00:36:33religious Dogma or religious ideology I
- 00:36:35do find the US to be the best example
- 00:36:38but that's not to say that
- 00:36:38fundamentalism doesn't exist anywhere
- 00:36:40else um Muslim fundamentalism goes crazy
- 00:36:43in like Saudi and I think that's like
- 00:36:45not not even like that's quite intuitive
- 00:36:48in Malaysia uh Islamic fundamentalism is
- 00:36:50very strong um I understand that India
- 00:36:53has
- 00:36:55Hindu they have Hindu fundamentalism by
- 00:36:58crime where SP I'm sure you guys know
- 00:37:06um let me look the name hindutva so
- 00:37:10India has hindutva which is a form of um
- 00:37:13Hindu fundamentalism but also seen as a
- 00:37:15form of Hindu
- 00:37:17nationalism uh the next question on the
- 00:37:20centralized channels prevented
- 00:37:21deformation of cultural pockets in the
- 00:37:23UK so how did that prove to be an
- 00:37:24advantage the reason it proved to be an
- 00:37:26advantage and this is a liberal take I'm
- 00:37:29gonna give you a liberal take the reason
- 00:37:30it proved to be an advantage is because
- 00:37:33if
- 00:37:34the if the fundamentalists and their
- 00:37:37small cultural Pockets cannot mobilize
- 00:37:40then they cannot become militant or
- 00:37:42become aggressive and when it comes to
- 00:37:45religion these things tend to be quite
- 00:37:47like reverse progressivism so the reason
- 00:37:51why the countries like the UK are able
- 00:37:52to progress very very easily is because
- 00:37:55of the lack of push back from
- 00:37:56fundamentalist groups because the
- 00:37:57fundamentalist groups were unable to get
- 00:37:59their feet off the ground in the first
- 00:38:01place uh the next one fundamentalism
- 00:38:04basically fights against modernization
- 00:38:05prevents modernized idea which are
- 00:38:07against conservation on religious ideas
- 00:38:10and against rationalized
- 00:38:13ideas
- 00:38:14um I'd say the first part is definitely
- 00:38:17correct it fights against
- 00:38:18modernization uh I wouldn't say it
- 00:38:20prevents modernized ideas I'd say like
- 00:38:22especially right now because of the need
- 00:38:24to seek imperi rationalization they're
- 00:38:26much more like to say that these
- 00:38:28modernized ideas need to be in line with
- 00:38:32the scripture or at least like Divine
- 00:38:34beliefs um prevents modernized idea
- 00:38:38which are against conservation on
- 00:38:39religious ideas and against rationalized
- 00:38:41idea I think they try to rationalize
- 00:38:43religion um and I think that's because
- 00:38:45these people are rational at the end of
- 00:38:47the day they're not just going to like
- 00:38:48willy-nilly say that oh you guys have to
- 00:38:50follow the Bible there is that need or
- 00:38:52like the desperation to prove yourself
- 00:38:54to much of society and therefore they're
- 00:38:56much more likely to rationalize religion
- 00:38:58rather than fight against rationalized
- 00:39:00ideas uh and the way that they
- 00:39:02rationalize religion is by trying to
- 00:39:04fight that these things are Justified
- 00:39:06empirically for us to choose the path of
- 00:39:08the scripture rather than go with
- 00:39:09modernization just because it's like
- 00:39:11convenient and
- 00:39:13capitalistic last one if secularism is
- 00:39:15meant to protect all religions and
- 00:39:16promote acceptance why do we still see
- 00:39:18religious conflicts in secular countries
- 00:39:20like India what exactly post wrong uh
- 00:39:23that's usually like that's a whole
- 00:39:25another topic on consolidation of power
- 00:39:28um there's a lot of ways to consolidate
- 00:39:29power like
- 00:39:31sure typically we don't allow religion
- 00:39:34in governance due to a fear of like
- 00:39:36having this Dogma or divine right to
- 00:39:38rule can lead to abuse of power but that
- 00:39:40does not mean that secular rule cannot
- 00:39:42consolidate power either um if you look
- 00:39:44at countries like the Philippines or
- 00:39:46Myanmar no not Myanmar like the
- 00:39:48Philippines they suffer from things like
- 00:39:50um what's it called like the whole
- 00:39:52family
- 00:39:54political dynasties they have political
- 00:39:56dynasties so there are all these other
- 00:39:58ways secular ways to consolidate power
- 00:40:02but I would say that religion is one of
- 00:40:03the most common
- 00:40:05ones uh how is fundamentalism connected
- 00:40:07to the rationalism of religion
- 00:40:09rationalizing religion is a method of
- 00:40:12promoting fundamentalism so when I say
- 00:40:15rationalizing religion I'm talking about
- 00:40:17trying to present your religion in a
- 00:40:19methodical and in empirical manner so
- 00:40:22it's as if you have like a scientific
- 00:40:24study and you'll see this all the time
- 00:40:26like Christians trying to prove prove
- 00:40:28why it's good to like why holy water is
- 00:40:31the cleanest water on Earth and they
- 00:40:33like look at it in a microscope and they
- 00:40:34freeze it and then when you look at the
- 00:40:36like water flakes it's actually like
- 00:40:37Jesus Christ like that's science right
- 00:40:40you're trying to empirically rationalize
- 00:40:42yourself Islam does a similar thing you
- 00:40:44know studies on why the Islamic diet is
- 00:40:47the best diet for humankind so this is
- 00:40:50these religions trying to rationalize
- 00:40:52themselves and prove to wider society
- 00:40:54that we should return to these
- 00:40:55scriptures in order to live the best
- 00:40:57sort of
- 00:40:58Life all right next slide what does
- 00:41:01fundamentalism look like now in the 21st
- 00:41:03century if we look through this if we
- 00:41:06look through this you'll see that in the
- 00:41:08early 2000s we kind of saw
- 00:41:10fundamentalism coming back so everything
- 00:41:13that I told you just now was like 1920s
- 00:41:15to 1940s then we saw a bit of a break
- 00:41:17and it was like the the secular wave
- 00:41:20where everyone believe that like yeah
- 00:41:22get rid of that get rid of this you know
- 00:41:24religion is your own business got
- 00:41:25nothing to do with the government but
- 00:41:27then in the early 2000s something
- 00:41:29shifted in which 911 happened and 911
- 00:41:33was one of the biggest pushes towards
- 00:41:35the association of political identity
- 00:41:37and religion this was one of the Tipping
- 00:41:39points in society and you know you can
- 00:41:41use this in debate about like how the
- 00:41:42world is now when trying to prove that
- 00:41:44status quo looks a certain way 911 was a
- 00:41:46Tipping Point in society in which people
- 00:41:50started to associate their political
- 00:41:51identity with religion and because of
- 00:41:53that voting behavior was no longer just
- 00:41:57like oh this gender or this demographic
- 00:41:59from this area is more likely to vote a
- 00:42:01certain way suddenly race and religion
- 00:42:03also became something very very
- 00:42:04prominent in predicting voter patterns
- 00:42:07and on top of that politicians responded
- 00:42:10to Bush's Patriots act which is
- 00:42:12essentially a security measure where you
- 00:42:14were allowed to like arrest without a
- 00:42:15warrant was considered fundamentalist if
- 00:42:18you look at it at a glance it doesn't
- 00:42:19seem so but these conservative security
- 00:42:22acts which are so defensive and
- 00:42:25defensiveness is a form of
- 00:42:27fundamentalism because fundamentalism is
- 00:42:29inherently defensive and trying to
- 00:42:31protect themselves from modernization
- 00:42:33therefore this Patriots Act was
- 00:42:34considered like the return of
- 00:42:35fundamentalism in the US fast forward 10
- 00:42:38more years the rise of trump that guy
- 00:42:42who's crazy and you know does stuff he
- 00:42:46was one of the biggest returns to
- 00:42:48fundamentalist patterns in modern
- 00:42:49politics this is when people started to
- 00:42:51get ballsy enough to say that hey let's
- 00:42:54not recognize transgender people anymore
- 00:42:56let's reject gay rights in America you
- 00:42:58land of the free and suddenly you can't
- 00:43:00people have the balls to say that you
- 00:43:02cannot be free in the land of the free
- 00:43:04and Trump allowed and motivated gave
- 00:43:08people it Trump became a Tipping Point
- 00:43:10which made a lot of these like
- 00:43:12fundamentalists brave enough to like
- 00:43:14show their face again and mind you
- 00:43:16people don't consider themselves they
- 00:43:18will not identify themselves
- 00:43:23do fund uh fundamentalists no longer
- 00:43:26will Iden identify with the term
- 00:43:29fundamentalism but it is the traits
- 00:43:32which we see in fundamentalism still
- 00:43:34very strongly exists lastly on how
- 00:43:37voting patterns continued It is believed
- 00:43:39that there are at least at least 5% of
- 00:43:41America that being 15 million non
- 00:43:44denomination n Christians in America
- 00:43:47these are individuals who through one
- 00:43:48way or another can be connected to
- 00:43:50fundamentalism there is probably going
- 00:43:52to be some form of fundamentalist
- 00:43:54culture which affects how they vote
- 00:44:03um uh the question on what is the
- 00:44:05meaning of marginalization by the inter
- 00:44:07Church movement the idea is that the
- 00:44:10inter Church movement was a movement
- 00:44:12which wanted to centralize Protestant
- 00:44:15Christianity into basically one
- 00:44:17institution so a similar example to this
- 00:44:19is the um fatwa Council in Islam which
- 00:44:23is an international Council which
- 00:44:25decides Islamic rulings so the the
- 00:44:27church movement was something similar
- 00:44:28but for Protestant Christians so what
- 00:44:31happened was when this uh organization
- 00:44:34was established a lot of protestant
- 00:44:36Christians felt like this was a threat
- 00:44:38or a form of marginalization to American
- 00:44:40Protestants in so far as it reduced the
- 00:44:43freedom that most churches have to
- 00:44:44decide what are the rulings or what
- 00:44:46should be the method of practice a lot
- 00:44:48of people also felt like it was too like
- 00:44:51um apolitical and they believed that
- 00:44:54themselves as Christians were in fact
- 00:44:55political and therefore felt like they
- 00:44:57were being marginalized by an
- 00:44:58interchurch movement which was basically
- 00:44:59telling them to shut up and that's why
- 00:45:01they felt
- 00:45:02marginalized um children fundamentalist
- 00:45:04has been increase once modernization
- 00:45:06increased at the T of the century that's
- 00:45:08uh this is actually really quite uh
- 00:45:10interesting statement and there's no
- 00:45:11particular answer and it's probably
- 00:45:12something that you're going to go back
- 00:45:13and forth on when it comes to the debate
- 00:45:15on whether or not fundamentalism is
- 00:45:17still here or if it's gone away and this
- 00:45:19is all dependent on the question we
- 00:45:21asked earlier on on whether or not it's
- 00:45:22reactionary or
- 00:45:24ideological so if you simply think it's
- 00:45:26ideological it's much more likely to
- 00:45:28decrease with modernization as new ideas
- 00:45:31come in but if it is reactionary then
- 00:45:33the idea of fundamentalism is actually
- 00:45:34likely to get a lot stronger like if we
- 00:45:37look at the modern day sure it went
- 00:45:39quiet for a while after the 19 after
- 00:45:41like 1945 but I'd say like as
- 00:45:43progressivism increased as like more
- 00:45:45liberal and Progressive rights were
- 00:45:47granted to minorities in a way which was
- 00:45:50like not very biblical or not very like
- 00:45:51muslamic therefore fundamentalism
- 00:45:54returns to fight against something which
- 00:45:56they believe is in fact going against
- 00:45:57the
- 00:45:59scripture did Trump result in a setback
- 00:46:01of the modern world it depends what you
- 00:46:03define by the modern world but I answer
- 00:46:05is intuitive which is yes because he got
- 00:46:07rid of like abortion rights um he's
- 00:46:09really really hurting like gender
- 00:46:11identity rights right now and these are
- 00:46:12all fundamentalist traits so I would say
- 00:46:14yes um but it was you know one step back
- 00:46:18for the modern world one step forward
- 00:46:20for fundamentalism how did 911 bring
- 00:46:22fundamentalism back I'd say mainly
- 00:46:24because the enemy in 9911 was of a
- 00:46:27certain religious identity that being
- 00:46:29Islam other religions felt like it was a
- 00:46:32threat towards them like if Islam is
- 00:46:33willing to go this far to spread their
- 00:46:35message then how far should we go should
- 00:46:38Christians push back further and that's
- 00:46:41why we started to see traits of
- 00:46:42fundamentalism coming back in
- 00:46:44legislation uh last question does Trump
- 00:46:46want to rationalize religion since he is
- 00:46:48often seen to be against religions
- 00:46:50though he is
- 00:46:51fundamentalist I'd say Trump is against
- 00:46:53every religion against Christianity if
- 00:46:55you actually look into it Trump has been
- 00:46:57seen he sells his own Bibles which is
- 00:46:59very unconstitutional by the way but he
- 00:47:01endorses and sells his own Bible in
- 00:47:03schools um meaning that he's not
- 00:47:06necessarily against all religions um it
- 00:47:09does seem like he's trying to
- 00:47:10rationalize Christianity but even if he
- 00:47:12doesn't it's quite clear that he wants
- 00:47:14to push fundamentalist principles by
- 00:47:16virtue of him using the moral ground of
- 00:47:21religion and you might not say this but
- 00:47:23when you question what is right or wrong
- 00:47:25the basis for this is often religion for
- 00:47:27example when somebody says that it is
- 00:47:30wrong to be gay there is no scientific
- 00:47:33evidence that this is something which is
- 00:47:35wrong there is only religious evidence
- 00:47:37therefore beliefs that being gay is
- 00:47:39wrong or the qu Community should not
- 00:47:41exist or that this and that or even like
- 00:47:43a lot of racial theories they tend to be
- 00:47:45rooted in religion which is why a lot of
- 00:47:47conservative politicians can be related
- 00:47:49to
- 00:47:50fundamentalism lastly how did the
- 00:47:52increased uh conservative security acts
- 00:47:54bring in fundamentalism I wouldn't say
- 00:47:56the increase acts brought in
- 00:47:57fundamentalism I would say that it was a
- 00:48:00form of fundamentalism because it was a
- 00:48:02form of protectionism or defending
- 00:48:04yourself from an outward Force because
- 00:48:07modernization globalization means that
- 00:48:09Muslims can now travel from their
- 00:48:11country to the US and because of that
- 00:48:15there was a need to protect yourself
- 00:48:16from these external religions which are
- 00:48:18trying to weaken yours I can see there's
- 00:48:21one more question is science against
- 00:48:23fundamentalism various religious ideas
- 00:48:25are not supported by science yeah um I'd
- 00:48:29say what I've noticed about a lot of
- 00:48:30religions is there is a certain sense of
- 00:48:33acceptance towards sciences and vice
- 00:48:36versa however for the most part A lot of
- 00:48:39the most famous um scientists like
- 00:48:41Albert Einstein were like there's no way
- 00:48:43God exists like Steph Hawking these were
- 00:48:46all people who pushed against so yeah a
- 00:48:48lot of prominent scientists tend to be
- 00:48:49against fundamentalism and believe that
- 00:48:51it's a step backwards lastly so would it
- 00:48:53be right to say that fundamentalism is
- 00:48:55growing today rather than modernization
- 00:48:57uh I'm going to use this to transition
- 00:48:59into the next part there is a theory
- 00:49:01which questions whether fundamentalism
- 00:49:03can actually go away or if it just goes
- 00:49:04back and forth so generally most
- 00:49:08movements will go back and
- 00:49:11forth
- 00:49:13between extremes so like Christian
- 00:49:17fundamentalism it was at an extreme in
- 00:49:19the 1920s one quiet came back in the
- 00:49:222000s and you'll see this with movements
- 00:49:25in general not necessarily
- 00:49:26fundamentalism things like black lives
- 00:49:29matter that was just the newest extreme
- 00:49:31we had the civil's right movement before
- 00:49:33this a much smaller and kind of less
- 00:49:35important example would be the SAG Afra
- 00:49:37the Hollywood strikes those happen every
- 00:49:40couple decades because of the way that
- 00:49:43the film industry um
- 00:49:47modernizes I'm seeing an opinion which
- 00:49:50is fundamentalism is not going to
- 00:49:51decrease because people don't understand
- 00:49:53Unity because everyone wants the
- 00:49:54religion to rule and all people of
- 00:49:55religion will be blam for one person's
- 00:49:57wrong Taliban is a group of terrorists
- 00:49:59and they want all people to become
- 00:50:00Muslims and anyone refuses yeah Taliban
- 00:50:02is actually an excellent example of
- 00:50:05fundamentalism uh I would say right now
- 00:50:07fundamentalism is less valued than
- 00:50:09science today however uh and this is my
- 00:50:12opinion I think fundamentalism is
- 00:50:14something to be reckoned with I think
- 00:50:16it's something which needs to be
- 00:50:17considered I feel like the reason why
- 00:50:19fundamentalism can get so strong and so
- 00:50:21dangerous is because of the way that
- 00:50:23it's kind of pushed aside and considered
- 00:50:25to be like just this silly extremist
- 00:50:27radical ideology um so I think it's
- 00:50:31necessary to recognize that is in fact a
- 00:50:33force to be reckoned with in order to
- 00:50:34get the full front of political an
- 00:50:37analysis and personally I don't think
- 00:50:40fundamentalism can overpower
- 00:50:42modernization that's just a d arguments
- 00:50:45I would give for that is
- 00:50:46one um internationally governments just
- 00:50:50don't really recognize fundamentalism
- 00:50:51that well two fundamentalism is in most
- 00:50:55cases Grassroots movements or like
- 00:50:56churches and that's still like the power
- 00:50:58Dynamic is just too big to allow for it
- 00:51:02to actually overtake modernization okay
- 00:51:04so we're near the end fundamentalism
- 00:51:07Beyond Christianity so fundamentalism is
- 00:51:09not in fact limited to Christianity
- 00:51:11we've seen multiple cases such as
- 00:51:13hindutva in India um in Malaysia there's
- 00:51:16very strong Muslim
- 00:51:18fundamentalism in terms of um like it's
- 00:51:22very well rooted within the government
- 00:51:24to the point we trying to shift away
- 00:51:26from it isn't possible we can still see
- 00:51:28a lot of religious leaders becoming
- 00:51:30politicians and they're more likely to
- 00:51:32push fundamentalism even if they don't I
- 00:51:35I don't explicitly identify as um what's
- 00:51:39it called if they don't explicitly
- 00:51:41identify as fundamentalists and lastly
- 00:51:42of course the example just now which was
- 00:51:44the Taliban which is probably one of the
- 00:51:46most extreme examples of fundamentalism
- 00:51:48we have in the modern world so in terms
- 00:51:51of the conclusion if we were to look at
- 00:51:52these motions we could there's a quite a
- 00:51:55bit of space for us to think about how
- 00:51:57to apply this information debate and I'm
- 00:51:59going to run through them really quick
- 00:52:00because I have like five minutes left
- 00:52:01first like this house believes that it
- 00:52:03is in the interest of religious leaders
- 00:52:04to forbid the use of artificial
- 00:52:06intelligence for any religious purpose
- 00:52:08so in this sort of motion what you want
- 00:52:10to question is what are the goals of a
- 00:52:12religious leader and it often follows
- 00:52:14the idea of fundamentalism the idea that
- 00:52:16you know the world is string away and we
- 00:52:18need to return people for their sake so
- 00:52:20because you're a religious leader it's
- 00:52:22likely to be benevolent but of course
- 00:52:24there's a world where you can argue that
- 00:52:25religious leaders aren't that that
- 00:52:26benevolent and just want to consolidate
- 00:52:28power but in any way how does artificial
- 00:52:31uh intelligence then blend with that so
- 00:52:34I think if you were government then we
- 00:52:35can very much apply what we've learned
- 00:52:37today the idea that modernization is
- 00:52:38inherently harmful to religion because
- 00:52:41it pushes people away from religion and
- 00:52:43therefore it's quite intuitive why
- 00:52:45artificial intelligence is something
- 00:52:46which would be pushed away or something
- 00:52:48which should be forbade because there
- 00:52:50are traditional ways which are taught in
- 00:52:52every religion which uh should be used
- 00:52:54over AI but if you were in the
- 00:52:56opposition
- 00:52:57you would be giving a much more like
- 00:52:59Catholic type of argument like anti-
- 00:53:01fundamentalist which is religion must
- 00:53:03progress because the people will
- 00:53:05progress anyways um second motion on in
- 00:53:08countries with significant religious
- 00:53:10divides this house would bend missionary
- 00:53:12schools so this question is going to be
- 00:53:14a question of the missionary itself um
- 00:53:17when it comes to religion and religious
- 00:53:19divides it's obvious that because of the
- 00:53:21extent of Dogma that a lot of people
- 00:53:22live in it's going to be something which
- 00:53:24is quite sensitive you then question
- 00:53:26like are these missionary schools also
- 00:53:28something which can incite this sort of
- 00:53:30damage and this sort of like sensitivity
- 00:53:32and therefore you question whether or
- 00:53:34not missionary schools can actually
- 00:53:35achieve their goal of missionary in the
- 00:53:37first place but secondly how people
- 00:53:39respond because note when you feel that
- 00:53:42your religion is harmed or being
- 00:53:43threatened you are much more likely to
- 00:53:45become militant and aggressive in nature
- 00:53:48so in these countries are missionary
- 00:53:49schools able to contribute to the
- 00:53:51aggressiveness or help tone it down uh
- 00:53:53third motion this house believes that
- 00:53:55the current pope should m mate that all
- 00:53:56future po be democratically elected by
- 00:53:58all Catholics um I feel like this is an
- 00:54:01argument on how Christians mainly would
- 00:54:03respond especially knowing that
- 00:54:05Protestant Christians tend to be quite
- 00:54:06critical of Catholics um to the extent
- 00:54:08where they're willing to be aggressive
- 00:54:10and how that would like play out in
- 00:54:11terms of polarization and sensitivity
- 00:54:13last motion this house believes that all
- 00:54:15religious positions should be directly
- 00:54:16elected by members of the constituency
- 00:54:18that they
- 00:54:20serve of the constituency that they
- 00:54:22serve um this again sorry the all
- 00:54:26position should be directly elected by
- 00:54:28members of the constituency they Ser um
- 00:54:30this again is a matter of how much how
- 00:54:35great polarization would occur so
- 00:54:38religion tends to be a case of
- 00:54:39polarization how will this group of
- 00:54:41religious people who truly truly believe
- 00:54:43that this is the only way to live how
- 00:54:45are they likely to respond to any
- 00:54:47changes in the legislation and how do
- 00:54:48they likely want to be governed by their
- 00:54:51local leaders okay so the next motion is
- 00:54:53thank you I'll go through the chat I
- 00:54:55kind of have like one minute
- 00:54:58left
- 00:55:00um as the holy C would adopt the two spe
- 00:55:03church policy is fundamentalism
- 00:55:04intellectual reactionary or just truly
- 00:55:06political overall so this is debatable
- 00:55:08and this is something that you will uh I
- 00:55:11don't have recordings I'm so sorry um
- 00:55:15but if I find some I'll send it to like
- 00:55:18the guy who contacted me and I can share
- 00:55:20with you guys so fundamentalism
- 00:55:22intellectual reaction are just truly
- 00:55:23political overall um I think that it's
- 00:55:26to debate and I think that will be the
- 00:55:28debate in a lot of motions whether or
- 00:55:29not it's just an ideology and are people
- 00:55:31willing to let go of like the reaction
- 00:55:33or whether it's reactionary and people
- 00:55:35will always fight back for the religion
- 00:55:37I'm very much more inclined to believe
- 00:55:39that it's reactionary and that's just
- 00:55:40like my analysis and my observation of
- 00:55:42the world I think people fight for the
- 00:55:44things they love and people love their
- 00:55:46religion that's why they fight in any
- 00:55:48case I do believe that religion is
- 00:55:49political based on the way that it can
- 00:55:51affect the way that you vote and the way
- 00:55:52that you interact the society around
- 00:55:55okay that's all for my session today I
- 00:55:57hope it was good and I hope you guys
- 00:55:58learned a
- 00:56:00lot thank you Thea for such a wonderful
- 00:56:03session it was really knowledgeable and
- 00:56:06it had all the aspects of what it should
- 00:56:08be and we' be really glad to apply some
- 00:56:10of the aspects of fundamentalism within
- 00:56:12the debates and kind of have that sort
- 00:56:14of narrative building and
- 00:56:15characterization within debates as well
- 00:56:18so thank you so much for joining and
- 00:56:20hope we you had very fun audience to
- 00:56:23give the session with thank you I love
- 00:56:26questions it was kind of tricky I was
- 00:56:28under a lot of pressure but you answered
- 00:56:31them very like profoundly incred session
- 00:56:35thank you I have another training
- 00:56:36session with another institution now so
- 00:56:38I gotta go yeah by way thank you so much
- 00:56:40thank
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