Can 25 Liberal College Students Outsmart 1 Conservative? (feat. Charlie Kirk) | Surrounded

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Resumen

TLDRLa vidéo présente Charlie Kirk, fondateur de Turning Point USA, confrontant un groupe d'étudiants sur plusieurs questions sociales controversées, notamment l'avortement, la légitimité des genres, et la politique de diversité, équité et inclusion (DEI). Charlie engage les étudiants dans des discussions sur la définition du genre, arguant que le terme 'genre' n'existe pas en dehors des notions biologiques, et critique la sélection de Kamala Harris comme vice-présidente, qu'il attribue à des critères de race et de genre. Il critique aussi le système éducatif supérieur, le qualifiant de possible arnaque dû aux dettes des étudiants. Les étudiants répondent en présentant des perspectives basées sur l'inclusion et équité, en défendant le rôle du DEI dans l'avancement social et professionnel. Le ton de la vidéo est marqué par la tension entre les points de vue conservateur de Charlie et les arguments progressistes des étudiants, illustrant la polarisation sur ces thèmes en Amérique.

Para llevar

  • 🗣️ Charlie Kirk engage des débats intenses avec des étudiants sur des sujets controversés.
  • 💡 La vidéo aborde la définition du genre au-delà des chromosones.
  • 🌍 Les discussions mettent l'accent sur les différences de points de vue entre générations.
  • 📊 La légitimité économique de l'éducation supérieure est remise en question.
  • 🏛️ Chacun présente des arguments soutenant ou critiquant les politiques de diversité et inclusion.
  • ⚖️ Le débat sur l'avortement soulève des questions sur les droits et la moralité.
  • 🎓 Les étudiants défendent l'importance de certaines études universitaires malgré les critiques.
  • 📚 L'éducation et le choix universitaire sont discutés en terme de valeur et de nécessité.
  • 👥 Des interactions montrent la polarisation des opinions en Amérique.
  • 📢 Le rôle des politiques identitaires dans la société actuelle est vivement contesté.
  • 📺 La vidéo illustre la dynamique des discussions politiques actuelles en milieu universitaire.

Cronología

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Un débat commence autour de la question de savoir si les hommes peuvent donner naissance, expliquant les concepts de sexe assigné à la naissance et critiquant des arguments sur les droits des femmes, les avortements et les contraceptifs.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Charlie Kirk introduit son débat avec des étudiants "éveillés" sur la question de l'avortement qu'il qualifie de meurtre, tout en confrontant des perspectives religieuses sur le jugement et les droits des femmes.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Charlie et un étudiant débattent sur la viabilité d'un fœtus et sa valeur morale comparée à celle d'une personne âgée atteinte de démence, soulignant les différences biologiques et éthiques.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Le débat s'intensifie autour de la classification des fœtus en tant que parasites, mettant en avant des arguments biologiques quant à la survie autonome versus la dépendance à l'hôte.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Charlie critique l'usage des stérilets et des pilules abortives en les comparant à des actes de meurtre, suggérant que les avorteurs devraient être emprisonnés, mais pas les femmes "trompées" par la culture.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    La discussion s'oriente vers les situations où la vie de la mère est menacée par la grossesse, évoquant les options médicales comme la césarienne pour éviter l'avortement.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Charlie est confronté à l'argument selon lequel les réglementations en matière d'avortement ne garantissent pas nécessairement une diminution du nombre d'avortements et que l'éducation sexuelle pourrait être plus efficace.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    Un débat plus large s'engage sur les croyances religieuses, la morale et comment la société devrait traiter des problèmes comme la violence des gangs dans le cadre de la discussion sur l'avortement.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Charlie avance que les discussions sur l'ordre et la loi dans les sociétés doivent inclure des perspectives religieuses et non simplement une législation basée sur des droits logiciels.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    La question se déplace sur le rôle de la religion et de Dieu dans la définition des rôles de genre, et le débat s'enflamme sur l'identification de genre par rapport aux critères biologiques traditionnels.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:55:00

    Les étudiants expriment leurs opinions sur les définitions modernes du genre, notamment concernant l'identité de genre et l'objet contre subjectivité d'être homme ou femme dans le cadre religieux.

  • 00:55:00 - 01:00:00

    Le débat autour de la définition du genre et de ses implications dans le sport est abordé, avec des exemples concrets comme des compétiteurs transgenres dans les compétitions féminines et leur impact perçu.

  • 01:00:00 - 01:05:00

    Les notions de race et les politiques sociales sont discutées, abordant le sujet de la catégorisation basée sur des normes phénotypiques versus les identités culturelles.

  • 01:05:00 - 01:10:00

    Un étudiant replace la discussion sur la moralité subjective et objective, la construction sociale et les tensions autour de positions contraires sur la nature transcendantale de Dieu versus des croyances individuelles.

  • 01:10:00 - 01:15:00

    Charlie tente de démontrer que le besoin de définition de genre dépasse les simples pronoms en s'appuyant sur des théories biologiques et culturelles.

  • 01:15:00 - 01:20:00

    Un débat sur l'efficacité et la nécessité des politiques anti-discrimination dans l'enseignement supérieur révèle des divergences nettes sur l'approche appropriée du mérite et de la diversité.

  • 01:20:00 - 01:25:00

    Les discussions sur la compétence et l'autorité des dirigeants politiques comme Kamala Harris soulèvent la question des nominations basées sur la diversité sans compétence préalable vérifiée.

  • 01:25:00 - 01:30:27

    Un échange controversé sur l'histoire raciale et l'utilisation des lois économiques comme le redlining sert de débat complémentaire pour aborder encore les inégalités et les discriminations systémiques.

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Preguntas frecuentes

  • Comment la vidéo aborde-t-elle le sujet de la définition du genre ?

    Le débat traite de la définition d'un genre basé sur des normes sociales et personnelles plutôt que sur des chromosones biologiques.

  • Qu'est-ce que Charlie Kirk dit au sujet de Kamala Harris dans le débat ?

    Charlie Kirk affirme dans le débat que Kamala Harris a été choisie spécialement en raison de sa couleur de peau et de son sexe.

  • Quel est le sujet principal abordé sur l'avortement dans la vidéo ?

    La vidéo discute de l'idée que l'avortement est assimilé à un meurtre et soulève des points sur les droits de la femme et du fœtus.

  • Quel est le contexte de la vidéo ?

    Les discussions sont menées dans un cadre universitaire avec des étudiants américains engagés.

  • Pourquoi Charlie Kirk pense-t-il que l'université pourrait être une arnaque ?

    Charlie Kirk critique l'éducation supérieure en suggérant qu'elle pourrait être une arnaque pour certains étudiants en raison des dettes et du peu de valeur perçue des diplômes.

  • Comment les étudiants réagissent-ils aux arguments de Charlie Kirk ?

    Les étudiants contredisent souvent Charlie Kirk en apportant des perspectives basées sur l'inclusion et l'équité, et en défiant ses arguments avec des faits et des opinions personnelles.

  • Quel est l'objectif principal de la vidéo ?

    L'objectif est de démontrer comment les étudiants et Charlie Kirk confrontent des points de vue opposés sur des questions de société.

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    a person who is assigned male at Birth I
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    don't think they a signed male at Birth
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    so people are not male at Birth I think
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    that a person see your evidence that
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    college is a scam my friend so what do
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    you say in some cases women without your
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    these are murderers of course not
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    they're not murderers we the difference
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    between an IUD killing a conceived
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    zygote and like a mother going to
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    Planned Parenthood and killing the petus
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    in her room that was actually the best
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    point somebody made it's not about the
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    the cells it's not about no no no I'm
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    speaking no I'm speaking no I'm speaking
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    no I'm speaking no I'm speaking no I'm
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    speaking no I'm speaking hello everyone
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    I am Charlie Kirk founder of Turning
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    Point USA and uh I am surrounded by 20
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    woke college
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    kids my first prompt is abortion is
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    murder and should be
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    [Music]
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    illegal all right can I maybe go
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    okay hello what's your name Juliana nice
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    to meet you nice to meet you can we get
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    our terms right first yeah okay abortion
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    is the forcible ending of the viability
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    of a being in utero otherwise known as a
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    fetus do we agree that's what abortion
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    is okay yeah okay great and then murder
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    is the intentional taking of Life
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    different than killing or sudden death
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    so murder would be the intent with
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    intent taking another life do we agree
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    with that okay okay and then we agree
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    that murder in general in society should
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    be illegal yeah okay great so yeah no I
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    do want to preface that I'm a Catholic
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    so I think one really important thing
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    that the Bible says is to not judge and
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    just going back to the topic um I think
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    there's a big difference uh between you
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    know cells in utero than a living
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    breathing existing being and while um I
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    do believe it's murder and that's just
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    my personal belief right I don't believe
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    in telling people what to do with their
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    bodies that's not up to me and it's not
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    up to us as well as Christians to judge
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    should we prevent murder in society for
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    sure yeah I should be illegal but I
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    think that it's really different right
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    because you know these people
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    aren't sorry nice to meet you okay nice
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    to
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    meet okay what's your name NAA nice to
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    meet you okay can I just ask um at how
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    many weeks do you think that a fetus is
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    V viable well viability and moral worth
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    are two different things no but I'm
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    asking you at how many weeks do you 20
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    weeks a baby can survive outside of
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    utero so it's actually 24 to 26 weeks 20
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    the youngest ever in a niku unit
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    actually happened in San Diego not far
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    from here and Sur survived at 20 weeks
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    okay so under roie Wade 93% of abortions
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    happened in the first 13 weeks of
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    pregnancy that's 93% of the abortions
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    happened well before a fetus is
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    technically viable as a form of let's go
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    into VI ability so what is it about
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    let's say a six week baby that has a
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    heartbeat its own DNA fingerprint brain
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    waves that is less moral worth than an
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    88-year-old right now with dementia in a
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    home down the street that person
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    requires assistance requires help what
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    why is it that the six week baby is of
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    less moral worth well first of all it's
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    not a baby it's a fetus what does fetus
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    mean a fetus is in utero what does fetus
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    mean in Latin what the I'm sorry is this
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    a it means little human being
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    his smile is very creepy okay um smiling
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    is creepy no your smile specifically but
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    let's go back to we're losing track here
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    no but but is what species is the fetus
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    the fetus is not a species yet it's
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    technically classified as a parasite
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    until it is viable now I want to talk I
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    can't really get past that are you
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    saying you saying a baby is a disease or
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    a tumor a parasite is not a disease and
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    a tumor those are not the same thing a
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    parasite is defined as something that
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    cannot survive outside its host a baby
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    before it is viable cannot survive
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    outside of a woman's womb got it so
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    let's let's extrapolate that is not a
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    living organism are are old people with
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    Alzheimer's and Dementia that are being
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    assisted every day are they parasites no
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    they're not parasites they're human
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    beings who are on the brink of death got
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    it so my going my four-month-old that
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    requires mom's breast milk and requires
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    daily changes and feedings cannot
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    survive without its own is my
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    four-month-old the parasite your baby
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    can breathe on its own your baby can
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    drink water from its mouth to its
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    stomach but but it canot your bab can
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    eat can it hunt can it gather can it
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    reason but that's not what qualifies
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    something as being a living organism
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    being a living organism simply means can
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    you survive outside of a womb outside of
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    your host got it so I just want to make
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    sure I'm clear why does that then equate
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    to moral viability it equates to
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    Scientific viability why under what
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    standard because it is not alive and you
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    are advocating for the rights of
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    something that is not technically a life
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    got it so what is is something while
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    sacrificing the needs of the human woman
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    who is alive got it so but a a a mom can
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    survive yes without the baby in her uhuh
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    right yes the baby cannot survive
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    without the mom yes but a mom cannot
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    survive without her lungs so it's not
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    her body it's in her body it's not her
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    DNA so it's not her choice so it's a it
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    actually is directly her DNA it's it is
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    100% it's 50% of her DNA after
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    DNA he's going to win I'm telling you
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    this this this this could take a while
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    okay first of all do we have our terms
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    correct we agree actually no so first of
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    all I'd like to refine our terms I have
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    two points to bring up after that though
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    so you Define murder is like
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    intentionally like killing a human being
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    I think that's a very poor way to Define
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    murder because if someone were to like
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    break into my home and point a gun at
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    the heads of me and everybody I love and
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    I intentionally kill them to prevent
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    them from un from killing my family I
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    don't think I murdered them right so I
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    would Define murder as the unjustified
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    termination of a human life you're
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    making a good point let me further
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    clarify then so self-defense is very
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    warranted exactly right but I I can see
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    where you're going to go with how that
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    has to go with abortion but we can go
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    down that journey in a second yeah so I
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    mean like I I kind of do want to give
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    you my argument and so far as why I'm
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    pro-choice why I think it's Justified
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    but first I think that you know your
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    position is quite absurd right because
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    you're saying that it is murder to kill
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    a human being right at any point in
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    development especially when it's in the
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    mother's wom my question to you would be
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    well does this make women with iuds
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    murderers because it is the case that in
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    some scenarios an IUD will allow for
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    conception to occur meaning there's a
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    unique human life there but it will
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    prevent its implantation intentionally
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    killing it well no preventing
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    implantation is not necessarily the same
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    thing as terminating a fertilized egg
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    for example if you take Plan B for again
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    it's not it's not the same thing
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    preventing the production of proest
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    progesterone is not the same thing as
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    terminating a fully a a being that has
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    been fertilized you do not know for a
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    fact that the egg has been fertilized
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    you do not know that when even IUD okay
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    yeah so preventing a fertilization or
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    implantation to the uter lining is
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    killing a conceived zygote so what
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    happens a sperm goes into the egg right
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    the egg becomes fertilized it's a
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    conceived zygote in some cases it will
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    prevent the implantation of the
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    conceived zygote killing the conceived
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    zygote in some cases correct so what do
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    you say in some cases women are
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    murderers of course not they're not
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    murders we do not know for a case that's
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    that's like saying that every so what's
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    the difference between an IUD killing a
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    conceived zygo like a mother going to
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    plann Parenthood and killing the fetus
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    in her room well so you asking you're
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    asking two separate things if they if
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    they knew for certain to be more clear
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    that I have a fertilized egg and I'm
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    going to take a drug to prevent that
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    fertilized egg from attaching to their
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    uterin wall then yes that is an act of
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    killing or murder of course okay so do
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    you think all murderers should go to
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    jail do I think all murderers should go
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    to jail I mean on the third on third
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    degree murder however no I don't think
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    women that got abortions or had iuds
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    should go to jail because I think that
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    they have been deceived by mass culture
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    M Mass propaganda secondly the people
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    who should go to jail are the
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    abortionists who are the ones that have
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    been putting the abortion pill the ones
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    that have been doing procedures the ones
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    that have been going into the third
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    trimester and breaking babies backs and
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    inserting them with syringes while the
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    babies are crying and suffocating being
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    born alive and then being dead on the
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    operating table that is who should go to
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    jail
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    oh that was actually the best point
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    somebody made we'll have to we'll have
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    to talk about
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    it okay whenever I'm talking about this
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    discussion
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    um I always go to the question of what
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    about in The Case of the mother when her
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    life is in danger because I'm a big
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    believer I don't I don't know I'm still
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    iffy on if I think it's a or if it's
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    murder or not but even so I mean I don't
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    want to say murder is Justified guys
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    wait let me just get this one point and
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    then you can vote me out give me one
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    second um say the mother gets pregnant
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    and she knows that if she gives birth
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    she's going to die she has some kind of
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    Health complication then what do you do
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    in section I don't know what that means
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    to C-section they an ins guys wait hold
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    on give me one second go right they go
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    right below the belly button and they
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    deliver the baby and therefore she
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    doesn't have to give birth it's
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    technically birth but it's much safer so
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    that's that's actually safer than an
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    abortion
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    procedure sorry sorry
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    Lily hello how are you hi what's your
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    name Deen nice to meet nice to meet you
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    um I would say with abortion I think uh
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    it's it's very complicated but I think
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    the issue that I have primarily with
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    your stance of being pro-life that
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    there's no Nuance um there's women who
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    are being forced to travel hundreds of
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    miles to access abortion care even in
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    cases of rape in certain States that're
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    they're not giving any sort of um
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    allowance for that and I think um you
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    know a lot of people who are pro-life
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    they they say that they're pro-life but
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    I feel like they're really Pro birth
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    because in you know with Firearms uh the
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    United States has some of the highest
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    firearm deaths um out of oecd Nations
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    right and we can acknowledge that that's
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    for children who are actually living in
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    um so I feel like abortion while yeah it
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    is I can I can definitely see your point
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    I I just think that it should be allowed
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    in some circum yeah great um I'm happy
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    to get into the gun violence stuff later
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    but I want to really stay focused on
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    abortion right you can see you can say
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    you see my point can you see the world
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    also where since we know it's a human
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    life that it should be illegal since we
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    don't allow murder in our society well
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    that's that's that's where I have an
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    issue because abortion is not being done
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    willy-nilly it's it's like the life of
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    the mother's always how many abortions
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    do you think we have every day in
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    America guess I'm not sure I'm not sure
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    guess I I'm I'm honestly not sure maybe
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    I don't know a th000 4,000 a day so it
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    is kind of willy-nilly we have
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    1.6
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    sorry hello hi um I just want to clarify
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    the thing that you're aiming for is less
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    abortion right that would be you would
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    want or at least eventually it's also a
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    protection of those that can't protect
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    themselves but yes and that's why once
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    we after the reversal of Row versus Wade
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    we saw abortions go down dramatically in
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    Texas Alabama Mississippi we saw
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    thousands of babies that are now alive
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    and well that are able to have amazing
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    lives thanks to the reversal of Row
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    versus weight uh I don't think a lot of
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    that is true um it is but it's not true
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    because when you make abortion illegal
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    it doesn't actually decrease the amount
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    of ab a nice talking point in Texas the
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    numbers show differently birth has gone
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    up yeah legal goes down but illegal
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    abortions still happen abortions still
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    happen outside of whatever data you're
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    show that's not true but let's just say
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    so 40% so well if you if you want to
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    well first of all if you count the
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    abortion pill you're right but that's a
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    separate thing than a chemic chemical
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    abortion and surgical abortion different
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    things and I'm not debating I'm not I'm
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    not debating you I'm debating her so if
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    you want to do the flags and come back
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    in try and be faster next time so let me
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    ask you this so the question is we
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    should try to limit unjust suffering of
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    human beings right sure okay that's my
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    position is that there's unjust
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    suffering of anywhere between 1.4 to 1.6
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    million abortions a year of human beings
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    that are being massacred in the womb and
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    so that's not a woman's rights issue
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    that's not a men's rights issue that's
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    just a human rights issue okay the best
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    way to decrease abortions happening is
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    proper sex education limiting abortion
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    and making abortion illegal does not
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    actually decrease the amount of
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    abortions that happen so what is your
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    evidence of that what is my evidence of
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    that because we have increased sex
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    education last 30 years we've had no our
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    sex education is so bad in America well
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    by bad what do you mean by that we have
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    we have more access to birth control for
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    young kids we have more kids that are
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    learning you birth control at a younger
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    age we have more of that in our public
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    school system and we've seen all the
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    trends actually go in a negative
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    Direction so in fact we see that the
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    more sex exucation there is the the more
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    disturbing those Trends are so you say
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    that let me ask just one more thing you
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    say that if we make abortion illegal
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    people will still do it should we then
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    just make gang violence legal because no
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    I'm saying if you actually wanted to
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    decrease the amount of abortions that
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    happen you wouldn't be advocating for a
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    like to make abortion illegal you'd be
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    advocating for Alles that logic apply to
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    stealing looting kidnapping ARS sin and
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    murder well actually it does because
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    those are results of different societal
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    issues that you should be educating
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    yourself on rather than making ital
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    front can we should we make kidnapping
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    arson burgly murder legal because
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    they're symptoms of something else we
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    should be helping Society heal from
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    those things got answer the question we
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    want less of those things so we just
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    make them legal will get less
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    looting you know actually I'm going to
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    let someone else thank you very much
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    hi Parker nice to meet you yes nice to
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    meet you Charlie big Tick Tock guy here
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    so like uh pedophiles people who were
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    married to children in the past and
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    normalized in that Society should they
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    go to prison should pedophiles like if
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    you could go back in time would you put
  • 00:13:46
    those pedophiles in prison that was that
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    married those children because it was
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    normalized they were deceived into
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    thinking it's okay would you put them in
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    prison you had to slow down file should
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    get the death penalty no so you'd go
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    back in the past you give them the death
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    penalty even though they were deceived
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    into thinking it was okay but you said
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    people who get abortions who are women
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    shouldn't go to pris but it's not
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    currently illegal okay regardless at
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    that time at that time it wasn't no I
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    would not go back and retroactively
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    enforce laws where things were currently
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    not illegal you wouldn't put pedophiles
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    in prison in the past hold on a second
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    when was it ille when was it legal in
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    America well child marriage was legal in
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    America throughout the early 1900s and
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    especially throughout most of society
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    for thousands of years especially in the
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    Old Testament and in the Bible hold well
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    hold on hold on a second so where where
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    where is the levitical law that allows
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    you to marry a child oh yeah can you
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    name the verse so well I can't name the
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    first but the particular conditions that
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    are enlisted in the Bible are that you
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    have to beat physical maturity and
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    emotional maturity which is extremely
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    vague and throughout Society has been
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    seen there is not a verse but let's kind
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    of go back back under your VI let's go
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    back to well generally agreed upon it's
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    18 years old but let me ask you but you
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    but you because you you don't go based
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    on what's General you go based on the b
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    i I say 18 years old but let me ask you
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    a question where's when when does Life
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    Begin conception like conception great
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    so good so should we protect our life at
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    conception I care about Senti in life
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    not not so when do brain waves start you
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    think brain dead people should be able
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    to pull the plug on like family should
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    be able to pull the plug on individual
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    got to answer the question when do brain
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    when do brain waves when do brain waves
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    start uh you can see brain waves around
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    6 to 8 weeks which in brain dead
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    individual there are brain waves as well
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    so the brain waves necessary to produce
  • 00:15:11
    a subjective experience are met until
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    around 2 can you see it from my
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    perspective that at six to eight weeks
  • 00:15:17
    those brain waves will actually increase
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    not decrease if allowed the process of
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    development to continue did you know
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    those same EEG scans exist in brain dead
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    people that you don't think are the
  • 00:15:25
    difference with the brain dead people is
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    that the likelihood of those brain waves
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    actually increasing is very low at 6 to
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    eight weeks when by 15 weeks they can
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    hear the it's irreversible sensation
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    that's what brain death is I know that
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    it's not coma but you're you're you're
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    doing a red herring go back to it's not
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    what's a red herring six a red herring
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    is where you you avoid the topic and you
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    say something that is uh adjacent or
  • 00:15:44
    symmetrical to what I'm saying but not
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    actually I'm saying me that's not that's
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    not a red herring a six to8 week baby if
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    they're allowed to continue to develop
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    what ends up happening uh at a certain
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    point it will become a sentient being in
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    the future the same way if I keep
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    engaging with my girlfriend there'll be
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    a baby in the future yet I don't care
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    about unless you're infertile which we
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    don't know but so let's let's see let's
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    see the the process of development right
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    why answer my question why do you have
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    the ability or the right should those
  • 00:16:10
    child P3 go to prison the process of
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    should the pedophiles Go to Prison from
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    1904 how many pedophiles are alive from
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    1904 they're not alive right I meant
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    like if you can go back in the past
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    hypothetically speaking and you could
  • 00:16:20
    put them in prison would you put them in
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    prison I would have killed them myself
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    if I was aive back okay so then so then
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    you don't apply it based upon what
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    people are deceived to believe you apply
  • 00:16:27
    based on what you consider
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    think should
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    whys CL constructive debate if you keep
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    on talking over me I was finishing my
  • 00:16:39
    statement you were talking over me let
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    me ask you a very simple question do you
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    think it would be a good thing if we had
  • 00:16:45
    less abortions in America um it depends
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    on the context like are the abortions
  • 00:16:48
    prior to sentience yes all abortions
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    yeah no it would not be necessarily
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    better unless it is the case of the
  • 00:16:55
    people didn't want the abortions and it
  • 00:16:56
    would be negatively impactful to their
  • 00:16:57
    health medically speaking L abortion uh
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    after sentience yes okay so you you
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    believe in an 8we abortion ban yeah no
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    no no I don't I don't sorry I believe in
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    an abortion ban after 18 through 26
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    weeks okay that's that's a more
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    reasonable position I have to give you
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    credit for that it's similar to Trump's
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    15 weeks yeah so why why do you think
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    that most people don't share your view
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    on that um well people just don't know
  • 00:17:17
    really know what sentience is there's
  • 00:17:18
    not a lot of conversation about abortion
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    and these conversations are very
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    difficult like they're conceptually hard
  • 00:17:23
    to go through and I understand why a lot
  • 00:17:24
    of people don't understand their
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    positions on it I think people cutting
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    off I thought thought we weren people I
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    was actually complimenting
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    I how are you nice to see you um so I
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    just have one question there's like in
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    any case you don't think there's any
  • 00:17:44
    case where abortion should be legal
  • 00:17:45
    there's a very very rare couple cases
  • 00:17:48
    okay so you do think that a couple cases
  • 00:17:50
    it is legal if if if cesarian section is
  • 00:17:52
    not going to save the mother's life and
  • 00:17:55
    the mother's life is actually at risk
  • 00:17:56
    which is debated amongst growing numbers
  • 00:17:58
    of OBGYNs okay that is the only case
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    where abortion should be should be
  • 00:18:02
    allowed but people say it is a growing
  • 00:18:05
    consensus in the pro-life world that
  • 00:18:07
    abortion is never medically necessary
  • 00:18:09
    okay so if you had a daughter and she
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    was 10 and she got raped and she was
  • 00:18:14
    going to give birth and she no wait oh
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    and she was going to give birth and she
  • 00:18:17
    was going to live would you want her to
  • 00:18:19
    go through that and carry her that's
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    that's awfully graphic answer it's no
  • 00:18:23
    but it's a real life scenario that
  • 00:18:25
    happens to many people the answer is yes
  • 00:18:27
    the baby would be delivered okay great
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    so I that's insane um but let me tell
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    you why no hold on let me ask you a
  • 00:18:32
    question there's two ultrasounds I have
  • 00:18:34
    one is a baby conceived in one is a baby
  • 00:18:36
    conceived by a loving couple which one
  • 00:18:37
    is which which which person
  • 00:18:41
    here which person here was conceived by
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    tell me which one was conceived by you
  • 00:18:45
    don't know exactly cuz it's all human
  • 00:18:47
    rights and it's all human beings matter
  • 00:18:48
    it's but it's about your daughter who's
  • 00:18:50
    passed to give birth to it and it's
  • 00:18:52
    going to be tortured by that for the
  • 00:18:53
    rest of her life that's going to take
  • 00:18:55
    away every freedom she's ever going to
  • 00:18:57
    have that's going to ruin her life she's
  • 00:18:59
    going to grow up and going vitim crime
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    the the point is how you were conceived
  • 00:19:03
    is irrelevant to what human rights you
  • 00:19:04
    get when hold on one second if a person
  • 00:19:06
    conceiv the walks down the side of the
  • 00:19:08
    street it's not like they don't get
  • 00:19:09
    First Amendment rights or second
  • 00:19:10
    amendment rights or the worst thing to
  • 00:19:12
    do to that do the daughter is to then
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    say hey we're going to go murder the
  • 00:19:16
    being in inside of you they wouldn't
  • 00:19:18
    even know like listen they they wouldn't
  • 00:19:20
    know listen listen listen listen but
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    wouldn't it wouldn't a better story to
  • 00:19:23
    say something evil happened and we do
  • 00:19:25
    something good in the face of evil
  • 00:19:26
    instead of saying we're going to do evil
  • 00:19:28
    and then murder the being because we're
  • 00:19:29
    going to we're going to we're going to
  • 00:19:30
    Pander to the evil no what makes what
  • 00:19:33
    makes the West great is that we do good
  • 00:19:35
    after evil not evil after evil it's not
  • 00:19:38
    about the being and the the cells it's
  • 00:19:41
    not about no no no I'm speaking no I'm
  • 00:19:43
    speaking no I'm speaking I'm speaking no
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    I'm speaking no I'm speaking no I'm
  • 00:19:47
    speaking no I'm speaking no I'm speaking
  • 00:19:50
    thank you so it's not I'm not talking
  • 00:19:52
    about that I'm talking about the person
  • 00:19:54
    no I'm talking about the person who is
  • 00:19:56
    dealing with the pregnancy I am not
  • 00:19:59
    talking about the cells I don't I don't
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    care listen the fetus the whatever I
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    don't care about that right now until it
  • 00:20:06
    is
  • 00:20:08
    formed there is if there is a 5-year-old
  • 00:20:11
    child who is pregnant and the baby is
  • 00:20:13
    two weeks in can't get pregnant actually
  • 00:20:15
    they have and they have given birthy old
  • 00:20:18
    have given pregnant correct there is one
  • 00:20:20
    recorded case of a 5-year-old birth is
  • 00:20:23
    that is that is that common yes not it's
  • 00:20:26
    common for 5-year-old get sometimes and
  • 00:20:28
    it's they get pregnant I think they
  • 00:20:30
    should be able to have medical access to
  • 00:20:33
    something that could save not only just
  • 00:20:35
    their life but like their Lively Hood
  • 00:20:37
    how many how many I'm curious how many I
  • 00:20:38
    hope your daughter lives a very happy
  • 00:20:40
    life and gets away from you okay so that
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    is really nasty and so her her belief
  • 00:20:48
    system just so we're clear is that the
  • 00:20:52
    time's up yeah no I got it it's fine I
  • 00:20:54
    mean it's insanely nasty and we'll talk
  • 00:20:56
    again my next claim is that college is a
  • 00:21:05
    scam hello hello hello what's your name
  • 00:21:08
    I'm Maddox how are you doing good so
  • 00:21:11
    college is a scam well let's define our
  • 00:21:12
    terms College being traditional for your
  • 00:21:14
    college of course University not
  • 00:21:16
    Community College or Technical College
  • 00:21:18
    course a scam if we can agree on a
  • 00:21:19
    definition is where a majority of people
  • 00:21:21
    who will go through the institution or
  • 00:21:24
    business uh they're not getting their
  • 00:21:25
    money's worth their time's worth um and
  • 00:21:27
    they're being deceived when they sign up
  • 00:21:28
    so do we agree on those terms yeah
  • 00:21:30
    perfect okay well what would further
  • 00:21:32
    definitions what do you think is the
  • 00:21:33
    purpose of going to college the purpose
  • 00:21:35
    of college should be a traditional
  • 00:21:36
    liberal arts education the pursuit of
  • 00:21:38
    what is good true and beautiful okay
  • 00:21:39
    that's not what it is uh it should be
  • 00:21:41
    the betterment of yourself and your soul
  • 00:21:43
    uh nurturing your character uh and
  • 00:21:45
    becoming a better citizen understanding
  • 00:21:47
    the deeper things in life at the very
  • 00:21:49
    least though it should be preparing one
  • 00:21:50
    for the job market do you think college
  • 00:21:52
    does those things I think it does uh but
  • 00:21:55
    I would add on to your point that I
  • 00:21:56
    think not only is it for the betterment
  • 00:21:58
    of your s but it's the for the
  • 00:21:59
    betterment of society we need historians
  • 00:22:02
    we need certain majors that may not make
  • 00:22:04
    as much money I think those are for the
  • 00:22:05
    betterment of society would you agree
  • 00:22:07
    that there's some Majors that may not
  • 00:22:09
    make money but are still essential to it
  • 00:22:11
    depends do you think that getting a
  • 00:22:12
    degree in gender studies is good for
  • 00:22:14
    society uh I would agree yeah why why
  • 00:22:16
    would studying gender not be good for
  • 00:22:19
    study well learning that men can give
  • 00:22:20
    birth is not exactly a good use of time
  • 00:22:22
    is it is that what they're teaching in
  • 00:22:23
    college right now colleges yeah
  • 00:22:24
    according to the Center for Disease
  • 00:22:25
    Control they no longer say women can
  • 00:22:27
    give birth they say birthing person
  • 00:22:29
    okay do you think men can give birth do
  • 00:22:30
    I think men can give birth I think that
  • 00:22:32
    uh yes or no question I think that a
  • 00:22:35
    person who is assigned male at Birth I
  • 00:22:36
    don't think they assign mail at Birth so
  • 00:22:38
    people are not male at Birth I think
  • 00:22:40
    that a person see you're evidence that
  • 00:22:41
    college is a scam my friend college is a
  • 00:22:43
    scam you're not you're lacking in a lot
  • 00:22:44
    of here we can continue right now so
  • 00:22:46
    gender studies do you think that
  • 00:22:48
    studying gender is uh uh not Essential
  • 00:22:51
    should we not deepen our first of all I
  • 00:22:53
    don't think gender we're going to get
  • 00:22:54
    there later I don't think gender exists
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    I think that there are two Sexes
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    infinite personalities and genders
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    however let's get back to the core
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    contention can I ask my question again
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    real quick well I want to get back to my
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    core contention a scam so the majority
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    of kids that go to college if they end
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    up getting a job at all they end up
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    getting a job that does not require a
  • 00:23:11
    college degree do you think that certain
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    jobs that may not associate with a
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    direct major can incorporate skills that
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    you learn from a major I think I'm
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    personally I'm an econ major and
  • 00:23:21
    depending on what job I do in the future
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    I can still use the skills earned from
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    so tell me about Milton fredman tell me
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    about Milton Freedman he is an economist
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    from how about Thomas Soul Thomas Soul
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    lud vanus lud well I will say that first
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    how
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    about I'd love to see you answer the
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    gender studies question we will get
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    there
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    later that's that's what psychedelics
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    are for uh who's
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    next um well I think it's difficult to
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    think about just one major thinking
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    about just gender studies like sure like
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    not everyone should be a gender Studies
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    major we need doctors we need lawyers we
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    need everything however why does it
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    matter if 10 people want to be a gender
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    Studies major and it matters to them
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    like not everyone can be a lawyer not
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    everyone can be a doctor there needs to
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    be some people and you know what yeah it
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    sucks that some people do go to college
  • 00:24:16
    and get a degree and then they end up
  • 00:24:17
    not in a Workforce for that but I don't
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    think that has to do with like college
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    was a scam it's more like maybe that
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    just wasn't the path for them or that
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    life choice was just too hard to get for
  • 00:24:27
    them but some people are able to go to
  • 00:24:29
    college and get a degree and use it and
  • 00:24:31
    that is super important because imagine
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    if no doctors went to college they just
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    like I think I can do it well of course
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    doctors and lawyers need credentialing
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    right but well less than 5% of all
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    people that go to college end up
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    studying medicine or in legal the vast
  • 00:24:42
    majority go into soft social sciences
  • 00:24:44
    Communications with the humanities so
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    you're in college or have been is that
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    correct yeah are you forced to take
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    classes that you think are a waste of
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    time yeah I'm for you know what on so
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    they're taking your money and they're
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    forcing you that they're a waste of time
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    that's kind of scammy right oh I think
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    that some classes o some so you have to
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    probably go in debt right depends okay
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    are you going you going are you going
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    into debt no okay well that's good I
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    picked a school that actually offered me
  • 00:25:08
    a scholarship someone else is paying for
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    your college oh I I don't know depends
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    on me I mean that school that wanted to
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    give me an opportunity but that's not
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    what we're talking about we're talking
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    about talking about the scam element
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    right so you said that there are some
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    classes that if students had to go into
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    debt or had to pay for would not be a
  • 00:25:23
    good use of their time so it's not
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    representing students well well do you
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    think like high school is scam then cuz
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    I had to pay for high school but I
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    didn't I'm not going to use AP US
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    History in my psychology degree ever
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    well I think AP US History is actually a
  • 00:25:36
    really good use of time knowing about
  • 00:25:37
    your country and your history and well
  • 00:25:38
    but I'm not going to use that in my
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    career that's what we're talking about
  • 00:25:41
    in the career path for college let's go
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    back to what I said right we said
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    traditional college right fouryear
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    college and what a scam is we're a
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    majority a majority of the people that
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    will go through the Enterprise the
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    business or the institution are not
  • 00:25:54
    getting their time Worth or their money
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    worth so therefore I go back to my core
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    contention which is a majority of kids
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    that exit College will not use their
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    degree at all when they go to find a job
  • 00:26:03
    but if you ask them do you think college
  • 00:26:05
    was a scam I don't think majority of
  • 00:26:06
    them are going to say yes some of them
  • 00:26:08
    will some of them are going to well not
  • 00:26:09
    everyone who's being scammed actively
  • 00:26:11
    knows they're being scammed people still
  • 00:26:12
    buy erectile dysfunction drugs off the
  • 00:26:14
    internet and they get scammed that's
  • 00:26:16
    their own personal choice of course
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    people have choices to be scammed I'm
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    not saying they don't have a choice I'm
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    making an observation analysis of the
  • 00:26:23
    institution for example flying Spirit
  • 00:26:24
    Airlines kind of a scam should be shut
  • 00:26:27
    down there is some yeah agree there are
  • 00:26:29
    some things in life we have to take a
  • 00:26:30
    step back and like oh the consumer is
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    not being well served you want to shut
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    down a bunch of majors in colleges that
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    you think are scams no I never said that
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    so what would your proposal be to fix
  • 00:26:39
    the scam of college there is no proposal
  • 00:26:42
    I'm simply the contention is college is
  • 00:26:44
    a scam so then what's the point of that
  • 00:26:45
    statement to get you to agree but like
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    what would that do like what do you want
  • 00:26:49
    to fix in college that's going to help
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    in not be a scam let's we can get to
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    step interval two as long as you can
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    agree that college is a scam no cuz not
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    for everyone for me I'm using a degree
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    that's going to help me help people make
  • 00:27:01
    better what are you studying psychology
  • 00:27:03
    and criminal justice okay so and it's
  • 00:27:06
    being paid for by somebody else which is
  • 00:27:08
    which is fine that's good so psychology
  • 00:27:09
    and criminal justice um do you do you
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    absolutely need to get a degree to be
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    able to get you do yeah I really I mean
  • 00:27:17
    like I could I guess study it all on my
  • 00:27:19
    own but it's just like makes more sense
  • 00:27:21
    to go and have all these experience I'm
  • 00:27:23
    getting like wonderful experiences
  • 00:27:25
    internships all through my college
  • 00:27:27
    that's helping
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    no it's just that this is a paway that's
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    really helping me so you know there's 11
  • 00:27:33
    million jobs open in the country right
  • 00:27:34
    now that don't require a college degree
  • 00:27:36
    okay then the people who want those jobs
  • 00:27:37
    can go get those jobs I'm not one of
  • 00:27:39
    those push too many kids into college no
  • 00:27:42
    okay so the national graduation rate is
  • 00:27:44
    59% if I asked the room everyone would
  • 00:27:46
    agree that they know some people that
  • 00:27:47
    went to college that did not graduate
  • 00:27:49
    yeah right so we're probably sending too
  • 00:27:51
    many kids into this institution but if
  • 00:27:53
    they might have been able to do it then
  • 00:27:55
    like why is it not worth it to try and
  • 00:27:56
    to push yourself to get a better
  • 00:27:59
    education and go further that's a bad
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    thing right but some people are able to
  • 00:28:03
    work through that and it's like an
  • 00:28:05
    opportunity thing when an institution is
  • 00:28:07
    multi-trillion dollars in scale involves
  • 00:28:09
    23 million of our citizens every four
  • 00:28:12
    years and is not actually better in the
  • 00:28:14
    country for example if College was so
  • 00:28:15
    great we would see incomes going up for
  • 00:28:17
    Gen Z and Millennials we'd see more
  • 00:28:19
    people able to own homes kids wouldn't
  • 00:28:28
    I'm telling you this is so ableist what
  • 00:28:30
    you're doing by the way I'm telling you
  • 00:28:33
    right hello what's your name Al nice to
  • 00:28:36
    meet you okay so let me start by saying
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    well first of all you said we're sending
  • 00:28:39
    too many kids to college who's sending
  • 00:28:41
    them who's forcing them guidance
  • 00:28:42
    counselors parents Community are they
  • 00:28:44
    forcing them are they signing them up
  • 00:28:45
    themselves forcing I never said forcing
  • 00:28:47
    but you can have nudging and forcing are
  • 00:28:49
    two different things we also subsidize
  • 00:28:51
    College through the federal government
  • 00:28:52
    so you guys get subsidized interest
  • 00:28:53
    rates scholarships and Loans so the
  • 00:28:55
    taxpayer is nudging students
  • 00:28:58
    and gently and sometimes forcely pushing
  • 00:29:00
    them into college and you would agree it
  • 00:29:02
    is an expectation if you grow up in a
  • 00:29:05
    upper middle class home to go to college
  • 00:29:06
    you would agree with that so there's a
  • 00:29:07
    societal cultural push I didn't grow up
  • 00:29:09
    in an upper middle class so okay well
  • 00:29:11
    but do you would you see it from their
  • 00:29:13
    would you see how that's that argument
  • 00:29:15
    is correct I guess there might be a
  • 00:29:17
    pressure but no one's sending them
  • 00:29:18
    you're sending yourself well of course
  • 00:29:20
    well we're all over the age of 18 right
  • 00:29:22
    when you're in college so you're sending
  • 00:29:24
    yourself but that's besides let's be
  • 00:29:25
    honest I mean for that's a silly
  • 00:29:27
    argument
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    yes they're technically send themselves
  • 00:29:30
    I was just at Arizona State University
  • 00:29:32
    moving everyone had their parents there
  • 00:29:34
    they were co-signing on loans they were
  • 00:29:35
    there helping pay for stuff parents the
  • 00:29:37
    ones that are still checking in they're
  • 00:29:38
    the ones that largely subsidize their
  • 00:29:39
    lifestyle hey Mom can you vend me Veno
  • 00:29:41
    me 3,000 bucks so that I can go out an
  • 00:29:43
    extra night yes of course when you're 18
  • 00:29:45
    years old you're the one signing on the
  • 00:29:46
    dotted line but there's enormous
  • 00:29:48
    pressure and nudging and cultural
  • 00:29:50
    expectation that students go to college
  • 00:29:53
    right okay I think the problem here is
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    that it's it's up to the person you're
  • 00:29:58
    you're not you can't just go to college
  • 00:29:59
    and expect to come out with a degree you
  • 00:30:01
    have to put the work in you have to put
  • 00:30:02
    the work in you have to make connections
  • 00:30:04
    and some people might think college is
  • 00:30:05
    just four years of partying and drinking
  • 00:30:07
    and making friends whatever but you have
  • 00:30:08
    to actually put the work in and if you
  • 00:30:10
    put the work in you make connections
  • 00:30:11
    then you can find a job right outside of
  • 00:30:13
    college well no not not doubting that
  • 00:30:16
    you can't find a job it's just that 52%
  • 00:30:18
    of them get a job that doesn't require
  • 00:30:19
    them to get the degree but most jobs
  • 00:30:21
    offer intent to pay if you have a degree
  • 00:30:23
    and 86% 86% of people with a degree get
  • 00:30:27
    paid more then people with just a high
  • 00:30:29
    school diploma that's only if you count
  • 00:30:31
    the ones at the top 10% of in income
  • 00:30:32
    iners so not if you count Humanities not
  • 00:30:35
    if you count um people that study in the
  • 00:30:37
    uh social sciences if you count medicine
  • 00:30:39
    or you count law that's absolutely
  • 00:30:41
    correct however the vast majority of
  • 00:30:43
    kids that go to college are not studying
  • 00:30:45
    medicine law engineering business
  • 00:30:47
    finance they're studying Communications
  • 00:30:49
    social scien or Humanities which are on
  • 00:30:50
    the lower income ladder so as I
  • 00:30:52
    mentioned we have 11 million job
  • 00:30:53
    openings in this country right now that
  • 00:30:55
    do not require a college degree I'm
  • 00:30:57
    guessing in this room that within four
  • 00:30:59
    to five years you guys would killed to
  • 00:31:00
    be able to earn 80,000 $80 to $100,000 a
  • 00:31:02
    year yes do you know that in States
  • 00:31:04
    across the country and in cities they're
  • 00:31:07
    offering apprenticeships become plumbers
  • 00:31:08
    and welders electricians that doesn't
  • 00:31:10
    require for your college degree entrance
  • 00:31:11
    salary $80,000 a year but again 86% of
  • 00:31:15
    people with a bachelor's degree earn
  • 00:31:17
    more than people with a high school
  • 00:31:19
    dipla no 86% of all people with a
  • 00:31:21
    bachelor's degree if you take out the
  • 00:31:22
    top 10% it's actually lower than those
  • 00:31:24
    that don't go to college so the reason
  • 00:31:25
    that number that average goes up is
  • 00:31:27
    because the the doctors and the
  • 00:31:28
    engineers and the lawyers are the ones
  • 00:31:30
    that bring that average so significantly
  • 00:31:32
    up but let me ask you a question that do
  • 00:31:34
    you think that there's any waste at all
  • 00:31:36
    in the current College model do I think
  • 00:31:38
    there's any waste I don't think we need
  • 00:31:39
    all of it okay good what part um well
  • 00:31:42
    you have to start with your core classes
  • 00:31:44
    and it's like high school you're taking
  • 00:31:45
    the same classes in do you think like
  • 00:31:47
    for example um do you think that it's
  • 00:31:51
    okay nice to meet you
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    [Music]
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    wow I'm Emily nice to meet you Emily
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    thank you um earlier said that about 5%
  • 00:32:05
    of college students are going into
  • 00:32:07
    fields of like medicine law and
  • 00:32:08
    Engineering was it let let me clarify
  • 00:32:10
    yes as far as they're going to be able
  • 00:32:11
    to get postgraduate degrees so they will
  • 00:32:13
    go all the way up and get their jurist
  • 00:32:14
    master or they will end up passing the
  • 00:32:16
    bar or becoming a doctor right so it's
  • 00:32:18
    easy to say doctors lawyers but Health
  • 00:32:20
    Care Professionals if you count nurses
  • 00:32:22
    or people that work in healthcare that
  • 00:32:23
    number is closer to 20 25% okay so 5% um
  • 00:32:27
    who has a doctor can you like raise your
  • 00:32:29
    hand if you have a doctor like a medical
  • 00:32:32
    doctor a doctor yeah like a medical
  • 00:32:34
    doctor yeah you do okay um 5% is still a
  • 00:32:38
    lot of people right of course but that
  • 00:32:40
    means 95% might not need to exist at the
  • 00:32:42
    institution I don't think that's the
  • 00:32:44
    takeaway just because 5% which is still
  • 00:32:46
    millions of Americans all across board
  • 00:32:48
    but if you were to say hey we only have
  • 00:32:49
    medical schools only have legal we can
  • 00:32:51
    get rid of gender studies get rid of so
  • 00:32:53
    what's what's the contention well gender
  • 00:32:54
    studies is actually if you look on like
  • 00:32:56
    the pre-law track gender studies is a
  • 00:32:57
    pre law track if you're going to be a
  • 00:32:58
    lawyer you have to study gender studies
  • 00:33:00
    and other social cult point that college
  • 00:33:02
    is a scam why would why would a lawyer
  • 00:33:03
    need to study gender studies should a
  • 00:33:05
    lawyer know the law it's a social
  • 00:33:06
    science the law you think the law isn't
  • 00:33:08
    inadvertently affected by social
  • 00:33:10
    cultural and gender Norms of course it
  • 00:33:11
    is but shouldn't they first know the
  • 00:33:12
    Bill of Rights the Constitution The
  • 00:33:13
    Federalist Papers we learned that in
  • 00:33:15
    high school okay so what is marber
  • 00:33:17
    versus
  • 00:33:18
    Madison I haven't been in high school
  • 00:33:19
    for a really long time I'm not trying to
  • 00:33:21
    be a lawyer Lear yeah so I mean high
  • 00:33:24
    schools are brown what was Brown versus
  • 00:33:25
    the Board of Education that's for
  • 00:33:27
    desegregating school okay good yeah
  • 00:33:28
    which project 2025 wants to like defund
  • 00:33:31
    the Department of Education who wrote
  • 00:33:33
    the Constitution founding fathers 1778 I
  • 00:33:36
    don't know it wasn't 17 at 78 I don't
  • 00:33:38
    know yeah you don't know no okay well
  • 00:33:41
    this is the point is that you don't
  • 00:33:42
    learn it in high school you don't even
  • 00:33:43
    learn it in undergraduate and our our
  • 00:33:44
    law school is not learning it so maybe
  • 00:33:46
    well I'm not in law school no the point
  • 00:33:47
    is that you were saying they already
  • 00:33:48
    learned it and they don't I don't want
  • 00:33:49
    this to be a pop quiz or trivia I didn't
  • 00:33:51
    go to college and I'm asking you very
  • 00:33:53
    basic Civic questions and you're paying
  • 00:33:55
    to go to college and you can't answer
  • 00:33:56
    them that's so fair but I
  • 00:33:59
    think thank you
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    [Music]
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    sorry I have a question is church a scam
  • 00:34:12
    no because church is honoring the Divine
  • 00:34:13
    and the internal and the good and the
  • 00:34:14
    true and the Beautiful is college but it
  • 00:34:16
    but it deceives people because you you
  • 00:34:18
    give a promise of everlasting life which
  • 00:34:20
    you don't actually get because
  • 00:34:21
    Christianity is contradictory logically
  • 00:34:22
    speaking do you want to get into a
  • 00:34:24
    theological debate or are we going to
  • 00:34:25
    talk about college because I complet
  • 00:34:27
    completely disagree Jesus Christ is my
  • 00:34:29
    Lord and Savior and we will have eternal
  • 00:34:30
    life okay so how if there is a perfect
  • 00:34:32
    being that created the world how could
  • 00:34:34
    we exist in an imperfect world I'm happy
  • 00:34:36
    to have this discussion can we go back
  • 00:34:37
    to college though because do you think
  • 00:34:39
    because that's a little bit of a red
  • 00:34:41
    herring and a little bit of a rabbit
  • 00:34:42
    hole tell me what that has to do with
  • 00:34:44
    college being a scam well I do think
  • 00:34:45
    college can be a scam for certain people
  • 00:34:47
    I don't think it's a scam for everyone
  • 00:34:49
    for people like me college was very
  • 00:34:50
    beneficial for me for sure I'm asking
  • 00:34:53
    you based upon your definition of a scam
  • 00:34:54
    do you consider the Christian Church a
  • 00:34:56
    scam of course not it's giving people
  • 00:34:57
    life and treat teaches them goodness
  • 00:34:59
    Christianity is false then that's a
  • 00:35:00
    deception okay but you think it's false
  • 00:35:02
    I don't we can agree to disagree also
  • 00:35:03
    I'm not agreeing to disagree on that but
  • 00:35:04
    we're not talking about we're not
  • 00:35:06
    talking about the church we're talking
  • 00:35:07
    about college right so again also people
  • 00:35:09
    are not paying to go to church are they
  • 00:35:11
    but it's a redu absurdum you know that
  • 00:35:12
    is ask the question what's a redu out
  • 00:35:13
    ofum uh that's a Latin term that means
  • 00:35:16
    reducing down to the lowest common
  • 00:35:18
    belief correct yeah so I'm taking am I
  • 00:35:19
    right I didn't go to college I knew that
  • 00:35:21
    I'm taking your particular position let
  • 00:35:22
    let me ask you a question without you
  • 00:35:23
    interrupting me do you pay to go to
  • 00:35:24
    church uh no I don't some people forced
  • 00:35:28
    to pay based upon their particular
  • 00:35:29
    denomination in today do you pay to go
  • 00:35:30
    to church depending on the church no no
  • 00:35:32
    you don't do you have to go to debt and
  • 00:35:33
    to go to church uh in some circumstances
  • 00:35:36
    people do because they have to give up
  • 00:35:37
    10% of their income to be able to do
  • 00:35:39
    that which people can't circumstance
  • 00:35:40
    well they're LDS you understand that a
  • 00:35:42
    lot of LDS Churches specifically require
  • 00:35:43
    10% they don't require it and you're
  • 00:35:46
    talk do in plenty of places well you're
  • 00:35:47
    asking Mainline Christian isn't their
  • 00:35:49
    stigmatization if you don't do that okay
  • 00:35:51
    you're good at interrupting not good at
  • 00:35:52
    answering well you haven't answered any
  • 00:35:54
    of my questions yet I did say no church
  • 00:35:55
    is not a scam church is the bride of
  • 00:35:57
    Christ college is a scam and college is
  • 00:36:00
    people are going into debt they're
  • 00:36:02
    paying a lot of money but I want to ask
  • 00:36:03
    you a question you said it's a scam for
  • 00:36:04
    some people who is it a scam for yeah
  • 00:36:06
    for people who specifically aren't ever
  • 00:36:08
    going to use it never use any of the
  • 00:36:09
    knowledge that they from it well you say
  • 00:36:11
    52% I don't think you can grant qualify
  • 00:36:13
    52% of people don't do that for example
  • 00:36:15
    for example my job that's not going to
  • 00:36:17
    be recommended like as like an economics
  • 00:36:18
    degree and most economics Majors AR
  • 00:36:20
    going to go into Tik Tok debating online
  • 00:36:22
    but I use the information that I learned
  • 00:36:23
    in college in like on in my job on a
  • 00:36:26
    daily basis so I still
  • 00:36:28
    qualities that are then used in my job
  • 00:36:30
    later on what percentage of kids that go
  • 00:36:32
    to college are being scammed can you I
  • 00:36:33
    don't think I don't think anyone knows
  • 00:36:34
    that it's dependent upon an individual I
  • 00:36:36
    have no clue shouldn't we try to find
  • 00:36:37
    out well if you'd like to find some
  • 00:36:39
    empirics on that I'd love to see it I I
  • 00:36:40
    just did so 41 41 well well the
  • 00:36:43
    Department of Education is a source no
  • 00:36:45
    the Department of Education doesn't say
  • 00:36:46
    41% of people it was a scam for or that
  • 00:36:48
    they didn't use any of the information
  • 00:36:50
    they learned in college you are you are
  • 00:36:51
    using so are you saying none of them use
  • 00:36:52
    any of the information can I say three
  • 00:36:54
    words without you interrupting me do any
  • 00:36:56
    of them use the information L on can I
  • 00:36:58
    say five words that interrupt you've
  • 00:36:59
    interruped me multip time multiple times
  • 00:37:01
    so since you say college is a scam for
  • 00:37:04
    some people it's a ballpark for the kids
  • 00:37:07
    that do not graduate 41% that ended up
  • 00:37:09
    going and not graduating were they
  • 00:37:11
    scammed uh no just because you go and
  • 00:37:13
    pay for a particular thing but then you
  • 00:37:15
    don't follow through with it doesn't
  • 00:37:16
    mean you were scammed maybe they were
  • 00:37:18
    you decided to pay for it oh you could
  • 00:37:19
    say some people are misled some people
  • 00:37:20
    are sing to these things some people are
  • 00:37:23
    met in are misled in the church and you
  • 00:37:24
    never answered my question on that
  • 00:37:26
    because you're trying to I did take that
  • 00:37:27
    time down so you don't have to answer
  • 00:37:28
    the question about Christianity because
  • 00:37:30
    you know your world if you looks
  • 00:37:31
    terrible well what about Christianity
  • 00:37:32
    you want me to answer we're talking I
  • 00:37:33
    think it's false because I was saying is
  • 00:37:35
    is church a scam if church is a scam
  • 00:37:38
    that'd be predicated off of the idea
  • 00:37:39
    that you're deceived into believing that
  • 00:37:40
    there's everlasting life specifically
  • 00:37:42
    from Christianity again so Christianity
  • 00:37:44
    has to be true so can you grant that
  • 00:37:45
    what's the argument Christianity is true
  • 00:37:46
    did the resur what the argument you're
  • 00:37:48
    going to let me finish three words in a
  • 00:37:50
    row appreciate it okay did the
  • 00:37:53
    resurrection happen uh I don't think the
  • 00:37:55
    resurrection occurred okay I disagree
  • 00:37:58
    okay so let me ask you a question a
  • 00:38:00
    perfect Creator is it possible for them
  • 00:38:02
    to not desire something imperfect a
  • 00:38:04
    perfect is a perfect Creator I'm sorry
  • 00:38:07
    what there's a perfect creator that
  • 00:38:09
    desires everything that's just perfect
  • 00:38:10
    how can they desire something imperfect
  • 00:38:12
    flaud well because maybe they want to
  • 00:38:13
    get to know themselves maybe they want
  • 00:38:14
    to see their own creation maybe they
  • 00:38:15
    love want get to know them can I can I
  • 00:38:18
    finish can I finish talking here okay
  • 00:38:21
    maybe because God loved the world so
  • 00:38:22
    much that his creation which rebelled
  • 00:38:24
    against him given agency and Free Will
  • 00:38:26
    rebelled against them then got eternal
  • 00:38:28
    life what we actually deserve and then
  • 00:38:30
    sent his son on a rescue mission to save
  • 00:38:32
    us from that the church is the bride of
  • 00:38:35
    Christ will save us from Damnation that
  • 00:38:37
    we deserve college is far from the Bride
  • 00:38:40
    Of America it's currently scamming the
  • 00:38:42
    Youth of this country and sending them
  • 00:38:44
    into Oblivion didn't answer the question
  • 00:38:46
    I I did no you didn't say how they could
  • 00:38:47
    desire something imperfect how how well
  • 00:38:50
    God can anything that later God can do
  • 00:38:52
    anything so even something logically
  • 00:38:55
    contradictory it's not logically
  • 00:38:56
    contradictory so desire something imp an
  • 00:38:58
    un can an Unstoppable can an Unstoppable
  • 00:39:01
    object can an Unstoppable object hit
  • 00:39:03
    aable
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    let's get into it yeah my next claim is
  • 00:40:16
    that trans women are not
  • 00:40:21
    [Music]
  • 00:40:22
    women okay what's your name Sam nice to
  • 00:40:25
    meet you uh let's define our term
  • 00:40:27
    uh a woman is an adult female of XX
  • 00:40:29
    chromosomes you tell me what is a woman
  • 00:40:32
    I think a woman is somebody who
  • 00:40:33
    identifies as a woman got it so that's
  • 00:40:35
    not a definition that's like saying a
  • 00:40:36
    table is something that identifies as a
  • 00:40:38
    table give me an objective definition of
  • 00:40:39
    no it's not a table is an object well
  • 00:40:41
    tell tell a table can't identify as
  • 00:40:43
    anything it doesn't haveo you have to
  • 00:40:45
    give me an objective definition of what
  • 00:40:47
    a woman is if I decided right now that I
  • 00:40:49
    wanted to identify as a woman I would be
  • 00:40:51
    a
  • 00:40:52
    woman okay but that's not that doesn't
  • 00:40:54
    answer the question I know but right now
  • 00:40:56
    I'm a man right so if that happened
  • 00:40:57
    right now woman once once a person makes
  • 00:41:00
    the decision to identify as a woman
  • 00:41:02
    woman that's a separate issue what is a
  • 00:41:03
    woman that's the definition no I know
  • 00:41:06
    but you have to tell me what a person
  • 00:41:07
    who identifies thems as a woman but you
  • 00:41:09
    have ident how do you know that they are
  • 00:41:11
    that thing how do I I don't need to know
  • 00:41:14
    what they I can ask them if I want to
  • 00:41:15
    know but there needs to be you need to
  • 00:41:17
    tell me what that thing is though
  • 00:41:20
    somebody who we're not getting anywhere
  • 00:41:22
    we're not getting any it's important
  • 00:41:23
    because it's like saying a giraffe is a
  • 00:41:25
    thing that looks like a giraffe or a
  • 00:41:26
    coyot thing that looks like a coyote
  • 00:41:28
    it's called circular reasoning you have
  • 00:41:30
    to give me a actual definition I don't
  • 00:41:32
    have to I I did give you a definition no
  • 00:41:35
    you said that a woman is something that
  • 00:41:36
    thinks they're a woman that doesn't give
  • 00:41:38
    me a definition that simply what would
  • 00:41:40
    you consider a definition then an adult
  • 00:41:42
    female with XX no no I mean like what
  • 00:41:44
    what makes that a
  • 00:41:54
    definition hello hi Juliana jul
  • 00:41:58
    um I don't necessarily think that you
  • 00:42:00
    can define a woman just by her
  • 00:42:02
    chromosomes women are so much more than
  • 00:42:04
    that they come in a variety of shapes
  • 00:42:06
    sizes colors and I don't necessarily
  • 00:42:08
    think that you can count out somebody
  • 00:42:09
    who's trans just because they don't have
  • 00:42:11
    a certain set of chromosomes there are
  • 00:42:13
    also people who are born I'm trying to
  • 00:42:15
    I'm drawing a blank uh intersects so XX
  • 00:42:18
    y or Y YX or just yeah or like x0
  • 00:42:20
    nothing so so natural mutations upon the
  • 00:42:24
    binary essentially right yes so but but
  • 00:42:26
    they don't have both sex organs that
  • 00:42:28
    both that both operate right yeah but
  • 00:42:30
    that also I don't think necessarily
  • 00:42:31
    works right because if it's X there's a
  • 00:42:35
    so you're either more male or more
  • 00:42:37
    female right so you might have both a
  • 00:42:38
    penis and vagina but there's never been
  • 00:42:39
    a case of someone who can impregnate
  • 00:42:41
    themselves okay I also don't necessarily
  • 00:42:44
    think that uh works for this situation
  • 00:42:46
    but um I also want to say that one of my
  • 00:42:48
    best friends is trans and I would say
  • 00:42:49
    that she's more of a woman than I am I
  • 00:42:51
    think that women Define themselves by
  • 00:42:53
    multiple things not just their sex
  • 00:42:55
    organs if somebody asked me who I was as
  • 00:42:57
    a woman I would not say I have a vagina
  • 00:42:59
    totally fair no I think you said
  • 00:43:01
    something smart so you said that person
  • 00:43:02
    is more of a woman than you are
  • 00:43:04
    therefore you're greatting off a
  • 00:43:05
    definition of something accomplishes
  • 00:43:07
    Womanhood what is that I think it's well
  • 00:43:10
    that's the thing too and I I do think
  • 00:43:12
    that gets a little complicated right
  • 00:43:13
    because there are social norms for a
  • 00:43:15
    gender but I do think we try to break
  • 00:43:16
    that right for sure but you said that
  • 00:43:18
    specific friend is more of a woman than
  • 00:43:20
    you are
  • 00:43:21
    why I think she's a better person than
  • 00:43:24
    me I think she Liv women are better
  • 00:43:25
    people she's a better woman than I am
  • 00:43:27
    I'm not saying women are better people
  • 00:43:28
    no but what what makes a woman a woman
  • 00:43:30
    because you said she's more of a woman
  • 00:43:31
    than you are so I want to know what that
  • 00:43:33
    definition is right okay I'm going to
  • 00:43:36
    let somebody else go thank
  • 00:43:43
    you okay all right Parker what is a
  • 00:43:46
    woman uh a woman is an adult human
  • 00:43:48
    person that has a desire to be in
  • 00:43:49
    accordance with a particular set of
  • 00:43:51
    Social and cultural norms that are
  • 00:43:52
    typically associated with a female sex
  • 00:43:53
    Define a man associate you're looking at
  • 00:43:55
    one XY chromosomes and okay do does God
  • 00:43:58
    the father have XY chromosomes
  • 00:44:00
    Incarnation we literally have a
  • 00:44:01
    religious a father and he's he him but
  • 00:44:03
    he's not a man we have a religious so a
  • 00:44:05
    man is someone with XY chromosomes but
  • 00:44:07
    he doesn't have XY chromosomes he's
  • 00:44:08
    still a man he still use prefer actually
  • 00:44:10
    very interesting in the original Hebrew
  • 00:44:11
    Adonai do you know what Adon is it's the
  • 00:44:13
    Hebrew word for God it's actually
  • 00:44:15
    genderless but in this in actually in
  • 00:44:17
    the scriptures they use he right and
  • 00:44:20
    they use the masculine Jesus Christ came
  • 00:44:23
    to Earth as a man not as a woman not as
  • 00:44:25
    gender queer but let's go back to
  • 00:44:27
    but God the father is a man right All
  • 00:44:29
    fathers are men well first of all
  • 00:44:30
    there's a trinity so God the father is
  • 00:44:32
    neither man nor woman he is omnicient
  • 00:44:34
    omnipotent he is all being on top of so
  • 00:44:36
    why do you use he well I did not the
  • 00:44:37
    scriptures do you could use woman you
  • 00:44:40
    could say her you could use him but the
  • 00:44:42
    way that the language is structured
  • 00:44:43
    again it is so the God the father is so
  • 00:44:45
    above gender it is so above any of our
  • 00:44:47
    understanding with glory and
  • 00:44:49
    understanding again because you have to
  • 00:44:51
    make a choice either he or him him or
  • 00:44:53
    her in the Original Scriptures let's go
  • 00:44:55
    back to I'm Happ father AR so I'm I'm so
  • 00:44:58
    some fathers are not men and boys not
  • 00:45:00
    men or boys I'm sorry some fathers are
  • 00:45:02
    not male no of course they are I'm not
  • 00:45:04
    wait so God the father is a male hold on
  • 00:45:05
    God the father so where where do we get
  • 00:45:07
    God the father from what what Greek word
  • 00:45:08
    from your scripture well from ABA right
  • 00:45:10
    which is a very close personal ter
  • 00:45:12
    you're not answering my questions and
  • 00:45:13
    you bring up random language that
  • 00:45:14
    doesn't matter well it actually does no
  • 00:45:15
    it doesn't but let me let me get down to
  • 00:45:17
    the root of it because I CU he's not a
  • 00:45:18
    man you know he's not a man under your
  • 00:45:19
    worldview yet you still use his
  • 00:45:20
    preferred pron you still call him a man
  • 00:45:22
    you don't do that with trans people
  • 00:45:23
    because you're transphobic that's why
  • 00:45:24
    okay got it but Christ is a man I'm
  • 00:45:26
    happy to get into the sexuality and
  • 00:45:28
    gation not of the Trinity okay before
  • 00:45:31
    Incarnation there's no penis there's no
  • 00:45:32
    XY chromisms there's no small G second
  • 00:45:34
    let's think about it if that's correct
  • 00:45:36
    how is it then Jacob saw the face of God
  • 00:45:40
    okay so if there's hold on if there was
  • 00:45:42
    not before the Incarnation how did Jacob
  • 00:45:43
    see the face of God how did Jacob
  • 00:45:45
    wrestle with God characters can have
  • 00:45:46
    faces without biology how did Jacob
  • 00:45:48
    wrestle with God so so okay do you think
  • 00:45:50
    that he has a body well or was that a
  • 00:45:52
    figurative notion of of wrestle that's
  • 00:45:53
    that's a mystery of the scriptures I'm
  • 00:45:55
    not here well it is I'm not here to
  • 00:45:57
    debate theology can we go back to we
  • 00:45:58
    talking about he does he actual biology
  • 00:46:00
    you keep trying to Pivot because you
  • 00:46:01
    know this debunks you what what biology
  • 00:46:03
    does your God have what what well the
  • 00:46:05
    one of Christ Our Lord the I meant
  • 00:46:06
    before Incarnation well I I to be honest
  • 00:46:08
    I don't quite know and I don't think the
  • 00:46:10
    scriptures are you don't know what a man
  • 00:46:11
    is well you can't Define what a man is
  • 00:46:12
    it's a little opaque again you're
  • 00:46:14
    looking at a man but your your video the
  • 00:46:16
    largest video on Tik Tok is what is a
  • 00:46:17
    woman 20 million views but you don't
  • 00:46:19
    know what a man is on your own world VI
  • 00:46:20
    I said you're looking at a man right
  • 00:46:22
    wait but God the father doesn't meet
  • 00:46:23
    that criteria am I looking at a man okay
  • 00:46:25
    good just make a man that's de beating
  • 00:46:26
    you in
  • 00:46:27
    that's fine so let me ask you a question
  • 00:46:29
    though so do you think that anybody can
  • 00:46:32
    become a woman um I think that anyone
  • 00:46:34
    who meets my criteria is a woman what's
  • 00:46:35
    your criteria again adult human person
  • 00:46:37
    that has a desire to be in accordance
  • 00:46:39
    with a particular set of Social and
  • 00:46:40
    cultural norms that are typically
  • 00:46:41
    associated with the female sex can
  • 00:46:42
    Society ever be wrong sure but like it's
  • 00:46:45
    it's it's a it's a desire to be in
  • 00:46:46
    accordance with a set of Social and
  • 00:46:48
    cultural norms can I become if I black
  • 00:46:50
    face no because it's not a desire that
  • 00:46:52
    you have to be in accordance with
  • 00:46:53
    particular because race is defined
  • 00:46:55
    phenotypically based upon the expression
  • 00:46:57
    to other people but you're by some
  • 00:46:58
    standard you're judging that do you
  • 00:47:00
    think there's a phenotypical expression
  • 00:47:01
    of someone who's white and someone who's
  • 00:47:02
    black like I see you're white because
  • 00:47:03
    you're phenotypical expression right so
  • 00:47:06
    but do you think but Rachel doelle that
  • 00:47:08
    said she is black and culturally black
  • 00:47:09
    is she black does she does she have
  • 00:47:11
    phenotypically uh characteristics we
  • 00:47:13
    would associate phenotypical I'm not
  • 00:47:14
    sure what that word means photp it's
  • 00:47:16
    going to be the like the the
  • 00:47:18
    expression yes okay so she she she could
  • 00:47:21
    pass as a black person wait so she
  • 00:47:23
    doesn't have the melanin content she's
  • 00:47:25
    borderline no okay so then she's not
  • 00:47:27
    black okay so you're able to say who is
  • 00:47:30
    black and not black that's how we Define
  • 00:47:32
    it in society no okay got it so but
  • 00:47:35
    is there an objective definition of who
  • 00:47:36
    is Black wait language is all subjective
  • 00:47:38
    Linguistics professionals indicate it's
  • 00:47:39
    subjective language is all subjective
  • 00:47:41
    yes absolutely every word you just used
  • 00:47:43
    was created by other human beings that
  • 00:47:45
    are engaging in conversation you might
  • 00:47:46
    think it's created by God but even then
  • 00:47:47
    it's still subjective now wewh God
  • 00:47:50
    subject now we're getting similar is the
  • 00:47:52
    word and the value behind murder
  • 00:47:55
    objective or subjective well I think
  • 00:47:57
    morality is subjective but you think
  • 00:47:58
    it's subjective too because it comes
  • 00:47:59
    from God that's interesting wait does it
  • 00:48:00
    come from God or independent of God well
  • 00:48:02
    no it's of course it comes from God it's
  • 00:48:03
    Transcendent being that's subjective yes
  • 00:48:05
    it is if it comes from God it's it's
  • 00:48:07
    specifically subjective it comes
  • 00:48:08
    independent of God then it's objective
  • 00:48:10
    what you just told me is is also comp
  • 00:48:13
    moral antirealism so let's go back to
  • 00:48:14
    the Ten Commandments you don't
  • 00:48:15
    understand meta ethics well I I hold on
  • 00:48:17
    a second what does subjective morality
  • 00:48:18
    mean what does subjective morality means
  • 00:48:20
    that it it comes in everybody's own
  • 00:48:22
    opinion their own form not dependent on
  • 00:48:24
    a stance God is a stance and that's the
  • 00:48:27
    truth of morality so if let's let's
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    let's believe do you believe in the if
  • 00:48:31
    everybody believed in the concept of God
  • 00:48:33
    the Transcendent God that there was a
  • 00:48:35
    Ten Commandments and we should live by
  • 00:48:36
    them right is that objective morality no
  • 00:48:39
    just because people agree do make it
  • 00:48:41
    objective again independent of stance AG
  • 00:48:44
    is what is objective morality
  • 00:48:47
    that sorry thanks we we'll be back at it
  • 00:48:50
    next
  • 00:48:55
    time Mason get are you nice to meet you
  • 00:48:57
    okay so I think it's a little scummy
  • 00:48:59
    that you're plagiarizing the whole Matt
  • 00:49:00
    Walsh thing like your thing is the
  • 00:49:02
    worship of Israel like that I pay him
  • 00:49:04
    royalties okay for sure well do you want
  • 00:49:06
    to talk about sex first or do you want
  • 00:49:07
    to talk about gender I don't think
  • 00:49:08
    gender exists I think it's a it's a it's
  • 00:49:10
    a term that John money and Judith Butler
  • 00:49:12
    created over the last 40 years that
  • 00:49:13
    basically is a filler for personalities
  • 00:49:15
    okay well if we're talking about sex
  • 00:49:16
    which it seems like you're saying is the
  • 00:49:17
    exact same thing um would you say sex is
  • 00:49:19
    binary by definition for sure yes
  • 00:49:21
    absolutely okay so you're already in
  • 00:49:23
    correct like sex is not binary it's
  • 00:49:24
    bodal so if you look at a distribution
  • 00:49:26
    graph we're going to see people in two
  • 00:49:28
    camps majority of the time but there are
  • 00:49:29
    going to be externalities on both ends
  • 00:49:31
    of the spectrum and in the middle we
  • 00:49:33
    talk about inter however with intersects
  • 00:49:36
    though they are mutations of a binary
  • 00:49:37
    correct no we're we're talking about on
  • 00:49:39
    but which we're talking about an entire
  • 00:49:40
    Spectrum which which by definition
  • 00:49:43
    defeating your expression of what a
  • 00:49:45
    binary is by saying that there are
  • 00:49:46
    externalities but but let me ask you a
  • 00:49:48
    question that like
  • 00:49:50
    xxy you're trying to create this own box
  • 00:49:53
    and then use any examples that are
  • 00:49:55
    outside of that box you brought up
  • 00:49:57
    justify that box again you brought up
  • 00:49:58
    interex we're talking about reality you
  • 00:50:01
    brought up intersex what sex organs
  • 00:50:03
    which one is more dominant what do you
  • 00:50:05
    mean in an xxy situation can you explain
  • 00:50:08
    your your point of view obviously you
  • 00:50:10
    have more female characteristics than
  • 00:50:11
    male characteristics in an xxy or it
  • 00:50:13
    might be y YX one of the one of the two
  • 00:50:15
    the point is that you do you do not have
  • 00:50:16
    both we could see people with female
  • 00:50:19
    reproductive organs that have XY and we
  • 00:50:21
    can see the vice versa people with male
  • 00:50:22
    reproductive organs that have ex sex so
  • 00:50:24
    I think you said something about gender
  • 00:50:25
    though I think that's more inter to get
  • 00:50:27
    into do you understand how the convers
  • 00:50:29
    we moving off of sex CU you're seing
  • 00:50:30
    that argument no I'm not seing it you
  • 00:50:32
    want to keep going into it we can if
  • 00:50:33
    You' like okay so so besides male and
  • 00:50:35
    female what categories exist we we have
  • 00:50:37
    people that are interex we have people
  • 00:50:38
    that are on the other ends of the bodal
  • 00:50:40
    distribution gra are you are you aware
  • 00:50:41
    what bodal means versus binary um
  • 00:50:44
    somewhat of an understanding okay well
  • 00:50:45
    you can be presented with a graph after
  • 00:50:47
    this by the people that you brought with
  • 00:50:48
    you but it's it's actually B
  • 00:50:50
    distribution just like constantly going
  • 00:50:51
    to condescending type talk is not going
  • 00:50:53
    to be fruit I'm just trying to match
  • 00:50:54
    your energy with the people that you
  • 00:50:55
    treated that were trying to have a
  • 00:50:57
    trans women are not women do you agree
  • 00:50:59
    with that uh I would say that trans
  • 00:51:00
    women are women because people that
  • 00:51:03
    exist under the category of women people
  • 00:51:05
    that exist under the category of men are
  • 00:51:06
    still humans so that category how how is
  • 00:51:08
    that defined well I wouldn't limit it to
  • 00:51:10
    things like genitals or things like
  • 00:51:11
    chromosomes which seems like you want to
  • 00:51:12
    do um what type of genitals would you
  • 00:51:14
    say I have since there OB genitals I'm
  • 00:51:17
    not obsess genitals but I could do a
  • 00:51:18
    blood sampling right now and I could see
  • 00:51:20
    exactly what you are because every
  • 00:51:21
    single one of your trillions of cells
  • 00:51:24
    are either coded with XX or XY no no how
  • 00:51:26
    much surgery or whatever I think that
  • 00:51:28
    you are man but you could fool me you
  • 00:51:29
    could take hormones you could play
  • 00:51:31
    camouflage like I could fool you to be
  • 00:51:32
    Hispanic if I had the right Hollywood
  • 00:51:34
    makeup director that doesn't mean that
  • 00:51:35
    you are the thing though but but you're
  • 00:51:37
    going from an objective biological
  • 00:51:39
    perspective which we've already talked
  • 00:51:40
    about with sex I'm talking about a
  • 00:51:41
    social construct or a social utility so
  • 00:51:45
    like if we were at a restaurant right
  • 00:51:46
    I'm sitting down and I'm sitting down at
  • 00:51:48
    the table and you're telling the waiter
  • 00:51:50
    hey I want to go sit with blank what
  • 00:51:51
    would you use with you he doesn't know
  • 00:51:53
    my name yeah I'm sitting over there that
  • 00:51:55
    guy yeah yes correct guy you're going to
  • 00:51:57
    typically use he or him or you're going
  • 00:51:59
    to say that guy like you just said
  • 00:52:00
    correct because you're ascribing the
  • 00:52:02
    male gender to me based on my I say I
  • 00:52:06
    could be an error maybe you are a
  • 00:52:07
    biological woman and then you'd correct
  • 00:52:08
    yourself right that take may maybe maybe
  • 00:52:10
    not so that's what we that is exactly
  • 00:52:12
    what we're trying to say we're so the
  • 00:52:14
    question is that do you think that
  • 00:52:16
    Womanhood can then be assumed just
  • 00:52:18
    through costume design it's not costume
  • 00:52:20
    design what is it then it's performative
  • 00:52:22
    social characteris so you could act
  • 00:52:24
    that's what gender is great it so you
  • 00:52:26
    could it's like a theater troop it's not
  • 00:52:28
    a theater troop these are social these
  • 00:52:29
    are social can be appropriated no
  • 00:52:32
    they're C they're categories that's what
  • 00:52:33
    it is so so there's nothing inherent
  • 00:52:35
    about the chromosomes there's nothing
  • 00:52:37
    that correct wow we disagree so there's
  • 00:52:39
    nothing inherent about having a period
  • 00:52:41
    or being able to give birth or the
  • 00:52:43
    specific hormonal makeup in different
  • 00:52:44
    cultures we've ascribed that to
  • 00:52:45
    Womanhood if you go back to other
  • 00:52:47
    cultures spending thousands of years
  • 00:52:49
    you'll see a difference when it like for
  • 00:52:51
    example the Mayans had plenty of people
  • 00:52:52
    that were schizophrenic right so that
  • 00:52:53
    means nothing to me right okay we have
  • 00:52:54
    people that say they're hearing things
  • 00:52:55
    from God would you say that
  • 00:52:56
    schizophrenic well not necessarily it
  • 00:52:58
    built western civilization and common
  • 00:52:59
    law and due process and individual
  • 00:53:02
    rights defense of The Unborn and the
  • 00:53:03
    greatest civilization ever you know that
  • 00:53:05
    voice from God happened to build the
  • 00:53:06
    greatest nation ever to exist in the
  • 00:53:07
    history of the world that's fine okay I
  • 00:53:08
    think the minds would say the same thing
  • 00:53:10
    that's the problem with presuppositional
  • 00:53:11
    arguments is that you could say mean
  • 00:53:13
    God's telling me right
  • 00:53:14
    now do you think that's real can we go
  • 00:53:16
    visit the M Nation they didn't last that
  • 00:53:17
    long did they yeah overkilling and
  • 00:53:19
    violence and you can justify that if you
  • 00:53:20
    like you mean all the child sacrifice
  • 00:53:22
    this is the kind of that why I'm trying
  • 00:53:23
    to match it is because you mean all the
  • 00:53:25
    child sacrifice the mines and incin dead
  • 00:53:27
    on the top of temples great civilization
  • 00:53:28
    you want to go back in the Old Testament
  • 00:53:29
    let's bring Parker up in here talk about
  • 00:53:31
    all the the child child marriage we can
  • 00:53:33
    talk about the justification of R where
  • 00:53:35
    was child sacrifice ever in the Bible um
  • 00:53:38
    when Isaac or Isaac was almost
  • 00:53:40
    sacrificed by his dad he wasn't though
  • 00:53:42
    because at the beginning of Genesis so
  • 00:53:43
    God just said like no just kidding dog
  • 00:53:45
    don't actually why because at the
  • 00:53:46
    beginning of Genesis 16 said I'm going
  • 00:53:47
    to test to Pro obedience yeah that's
  • 00:53:49
    right so now you know it so actually no
  • 00:53:51
    there was no child sacrifice in the
  • 00:53:52
    Bible it was a Prohibition on child
  • 00:53:54
    sacrifice the but anyway that's a little
  • 00:53:55
    bit of a rabbit hole do you understand
  • 00:53:56
    at least can you sympathize with our
  • 00:53:58
    perspective okay that that I'll calm it
  • 00:54:00
    down a little bit I apologize for the
  • 00:54:02
    con I mean you're doing it's it's fine
  • 00:54:04
    but you see where this could get wildly
  • 00:54:06
    out of control at least on the I don't
  • 00:54:08
    see how it get out of control because
  • 00:54:09
    even in sports for example you think
  • 00:54:11
    that there's no there's so this is this
  • 00:54:12
    is something that we might be able to
  • 00:54:13
    agree upon right Sports were not
  • 00:54:15
    archaeologically dug up right the rules
  • 00:54:17
    of sports they are things that we've
  • 00:54:18
    created as a society we have decided as
  • 00:54:20
    a society the most Fair categorization
  • 00:54:22
    is male Sports and female sports now as
  • 00:54:25
    we've been able to understand or at
  • 00:54:26
    least bring into the Forefront people
  • 00:54:28
    who don't identify with the bind we
  • 00:54:30
    still have to allow all people that are
  • 00:54:32
    women in the women's category and all
  • 00:54:34
    men that are men in the women's category
  • 00:54:35
    that includes CIS and trans if you'd
  • 00:54:37
    like to change that category because you
  • 00:54:38
    think it's unfair we can do that that's
  • 00:54:40
    what's awesome about arbitrary rules is
  • 00:54:42
    we can decide hormones I might not know
  • 00:54:44
    this but like when the Greeks started
  • 00:54:46
    the Olympics 2,000 years ago did they
  • 00:54:47
    have like a bunch of dudes wrestling
  • 00:54:50
    with women I don't even think they
  • 00:54:51
    allowed women to compete well I might be
  • 00:54:53
    wrong on that but that kind of proves
  • 00:54:54
    the point though that there was a what
  • 00:54:56
    did we do to allow women we changed the
  • 00:54:58
    rules right no but that by definition
  • 00:55:00
    therefore there is something from body
  • 00:55:02
    composition bone mass long density
  • 00:55:04
    testosterone and estrogen rates so
  • 00:55:06
    Endocrinology is different if you if
  • 00:55:07
    you'd say the majority of males in the
  • 00:55:09
    botal distribution graph we're going
  • 00:55:10
    back to that you can say hey we we want
  • 00:55:12
    this level of hormones in this
  • 00:55:14
    particular category and we can separate
  • 00:55:15
    it by hormones I agree with you that a
  • 00:55:17
    majority of men are majority of sity you
  • 00:55:20
    got to be like 99.9% I don't know Ronda
  • 00:55:22
    Rousey could kick my ass I will say that
  • 00:55:24
    no for sure but I mean but could she
  • 00:55:26
    kick Conor McGregor's ass well now we're
  • 00:55:28
    talking about the Peaks right she said
  • 00:55:30
    theend no because you're talking about
  • 00:55:32
    the peaks of two different categories in
  • 00:55:33
    the same sort of right because because
  • 00:55:35
    why she's a CIS woman well she's a CIS
  • 00:55:38
    woman and a CIS man but yes and he could
  • 00:55:41
    kick her tail right yes I would agree
  • 00:55:43
    okay for sure right because CIS men and
  • 00:55:45
    CIS women have different hormone levels
  • 00:55:47
    if you want to change the hormones we
  • 00:55:48
    can change the categorization you're
  • 00:55:50
    saying that you want men and women Bar
  • 00:55:53
    None and you say that's the most like
  • 00:55:54
    Fair category then we have to
  • 00:55:57
    all men but again there those things
  • 00:55:59
    don't so I just want to be clear so
  • 00:56:01
    because I think I'm tracking your
  • 00:56:02
    argument is that in the University of
  • 00:56:03
    Pennsylvania swim team when Thomas swam
  • 00:56:06
    against biological women that was you're
  • 00:56:08
    perfectly fine with that I think as long
  • 00:56:10
    as we have the categories that way
  • 00:56:12
    thanks good to meet you
  • 00:56:17
    yeah you want to get him in this isn't
  • 00:56:19
    debated yet no no no you're fine you're
  • 00:56:20
    fine you're fine what's your name hi my
  • 00:56:22
    name is pry nice to meet youney nice to
  • 00:56:24
    meet you go ahead pry pry t r you're
  • 00:56:27
    totally yeah um okay so I kind of want
  • 00:56:29
    to go back to a little earlier you said
  • 00:56:31
    that a Parker has lower T than you so
  • 00:56:33
    would you say a joke yeah no no I'm I'm
  • 00:56:35
    fully I'm fully aware of a joke but I
  • 00:56:37
    guess like on that on that point do you
  • 00:56:39
    think that like tea has to do or
  • 00:56:41
    testosterone has to do with your manhood
  • 00:56:43
    like well yes and no I mean for if you
  • 00:56:45
    are looking at typical testosterone
  • 00:56:47
    estone rates of women they are far
  • 00:56:49
    different than those of men but for
  • 00:56:51
    example like your testosterone rate goes
  • 00:56:52
    down when you have children for example
  • 00:56:54
    when you're a man that doesn't make you
  • 00:56:55
    less of a man they go they go down by by
  • 00:56:56
    400 points okay but like when we were
  • 00:56:58
    talking earlier about like sports right
  • 00:57:00
    and you were saying that the reason why
  • 00:57:02
    it's unfair for like like for example a
  • 00:57:05
    trans woman who used to be a man to be
  • 00:57:07
    like competing in women's sports you
  • 00:57:09
    said you cited that they have higher
  • 00:57:10
    testosterone levels one of about 50
  • 00:57:12
    characteristics also lung density the
  • 00:57:15
    men's hearts are bigger we have greater
  • 00:57:17
    bone B bone bone density muscle mass
  • 00:57:20
    okay be faster T to be stronger I I
  • 00:57:22
    understand but like those factors all
  • 00:57:24
    come from the hormones during the
  • 00:57:25
    development process say correct no not
  • 00:57:27
    necessarily no I mean most of them do
  • 00:57:29
    well not all of them so for example you
  • 00:57:30
    could try to pump a young girl's body
  • 00:57:33
    with testosterone at 8 years old and you
  • 00:57:35
    can get them stronger you cannot
  • 00:57:36
    necessarily get them on par with a
  • 00:57:39
    biological male at puberty you cannot
  • 00:57:41
    you could try okay but like because
  • 00:57:43
    there's something in the coding of our
  • 00:57:44
    genetics the coding of our genetics
  • 00:57:46
    which is often like controlled by like
  • 00:57:48
    different like I guess parts of our DNA
  • 00:57:50
    and also the hormones that are produced
  • 00:57:52
    that affect the the effective coding
  • 00:57:56
    ology it's a big part because for
  • 00:57:57
    example if you just give a kid
  • 00:57:58
    testosterone that doesn't even get them
  • 00:58:00
    close to becoming a male or estrogen
  • 00:58:02
    giving them a female they might get
  • 00:58:04
    characteristics that are close to that
  • 00:58:06
    right okay but it does for but I mean
  • 00:58:08
    like there's no perfect image of like
  • 00:58:10
    this is what a female looks like this is
  • 00:58:11
    what a male looks like like we all get
  • 00:58:12
    our periods at different ages some of us
  • 00:58:14
    like like and also like for example like
  • 00:58:17
    there are many circumstances where
  • 00:58:19
    Womanhood is just not one thing right
  • 00:58:21
    it's a multitude of experiences every
  • 00:58:24
    single person can you define what
  • 00:58:25
    Womanhood is that's an interesting
  • 00:58:26
    question for you well no I can't Define
  • 00:58:28
    what Womanhood is and the reason why is
  • 00:58:30
    because it's something that's an
  • 00:58:31
    individual experience for every single
  • 00:58:33
    person right like my experiences what I
  • 00:58:36
    have experienced throughout my life is
  • 00:58:37
    not going to be the same as another
  • 00:58:39
    woman who may have like grown up in a
  • 00:58:41
    different environment disagreement but
  • 00:58:42
    not Clarity I say that being a woman or
  • 00:58:44
    Womanhood is an objective thing right
  • 00:58:46
    but objective outside of one own's
  • 00:58:48
    opinions or experien so but are we at
  • 00:58:50
    the point where we're discussing where
  • 00:58:52
    this is like not something based on your
  • 00:58:54
    chromosones but something maybe based on
  • 00:58:56
    a construct well no it also can be
  • 00:58:58
    objectively witnessed in empirical ways
  • 00:59:00
    in biological ways in scientific ways
  • 00:59:03
    okay so to clarify we're still
  • 00:59:05
    discussing whether Womanhood is on
  • 00:59:07
    chromosomes or not if if you'd like to
  • 00:59:09
    discuss that it's deeper than just
  • 00:59:10
    chromosones right right I'm just trying
  • 00:59:11
    to for ex for example if we look at spec
  • 00:59:14
    scans or brain scans of men and women
  • 00:59:16
    98% of the time artificial intelligence
  • 00:59:18
    can tell you which one is the men and
  • 00:59:19
    which one is the male female okay so our
  • 00:59:22
    different parts of our brains fire so
  • 00:59:23
    for for men for men for example are
  • 00:59:26
    amygdalas are not as highw working as
  • 00:59:28
    women you know what amydala is the
  • 00:59:30
    threat assessment part of your so
  • 00:59:31
    obviously like your birth so there's a
  • 00:59:33
    difference between the concept or what
  • 00:59:35
    sex is which is a biological aspect and
  • 00:59:37
    what gender is which is a social
  • 00:59:39
    construct I reject gender completely as
  • 00:59:41
    a different word it's really personal
  • 00:59:43
    that's where the debate is it's the
  • 00:59:44
    existence of gender gender gender means
  • 00:59:46
    personality okay I don't doubt that
  • 00:59:49
    biological men might havein how would
  • 00:59:51
    you define race on that point how would
  • 00:59:53
    I Define how you def race well race is a
  • 00:59:55
    very difficult topic top okay because I
  • 00:59:57
    think that it's a really important thing
  • 00:59:58
    to discuss when it comes if I draw if I
  • 01:00:01
    draw blood is it ethnic lines is it if
  • 01:00:04
    you have a blood sample of a black
  • 01:00:05
    individual and a white individual I
  • 01:00:06
    can't tell you which one is which if I
  • 01:00:08
    have a blood sample of a man and a woman
  • 01:00:10
    I can tell you which one is which just
  • 01:00:12
    by running very simple Elementary blood
  • 01:00:13
    tests so for example if there was a
  • 01:00:15
    Hispanic or a white there is no
  • 01:00:17
    difference in the genetic coding there
  • 01:00:20
    just isn't why is it important that
  • 01:00:22
    someone's oh okay
  • 01:00:26
    my next claim is that kamla Harris is a
  • 01:00:28
    Dei
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  • 01:00:33
    candidate a lot of competition Mason
  • 01:00:36
    yeah exactly good to see you good to see
  • 01:00:37
    you again um can I define what a Dei
  • 01:00:40
    candidate is I I think that you're GNA
  • 01:00:41
    say because she's black and she's a
  • 01:00:42
    woman she's appointed because Joe Biden
  • 01:00:43
    promised that and it's is not a
  • 01:00:45
    testament to her not only that but also
  • 01:00:47
    in the her getting the nomination of the
  • 01:00:48
    Democrat Party they said repeatedly we
  • 01:00:50
    do not want to pass over a black female
  • 01:00:52
    okay so just those two things but the
  • 01:00:54
    first one is stronger you're right Joe
  • 01:00:56
    Biden said I'm going to put on my vice
  • 01:00:58
    presidency a black female right right so
  • 01:00:59
    his criteria yeah and that was like
  • 01:01:01
    Karen bass and KLA Harris so she was not
  • 01:01:03
    chosen because of her intellect or her
  • 01:01:05
    accomplishments or because of any of
  • 01:01:07
    that it was because she happened to fit
  • 01:01:09
    a couple boxes in fact Amy kachar the
  • 01:01:11
    vetting at the time was that Amy kobar
  • 01:01:13
    would have been a better VP and kamla
  • 01:01:15
    ended up getting it so it's just a
  • 01:01:16
    statement of fact that she is there not
  • 01:01:18
    because of her Brilliance or
  • 01:01:20
    accomplishments but because of her
  • 01:01:21
    ethnicity so KLA Harris first and
  • 01:01:24
    foremost there are a lot of criticism
  • 01:01:26
    that you can give to her on why she
  • 01:01:27
    wouldn't be an effective president it
  • 01:01:28
    shouldn't be because she's a woman or
  • 01:01:29
    because she's black and it seems to be
  • 01:01:31
    that you're I'm just I just want people
  • 01:01:32
    to understand and agree she didn't earn
  • 01:01:34
    this she she absolutely did she has she
  • 01:01:36
    has a career where she's been not only a
  • 01:01:38
    de de stands one earn it just so we're
  • 01:01:40
    clear but like it stands for diversity
  • 01:01:42
    Equity inclusion I like the meme though
  • 01:01:43
    I I know what it is but do you at least
  • 01:01:45
    admit and acknowledge that when Joe
  • 01:01:46
    Biden was searching for a VP he cared
  • 01:01:48
    more about skin color and a female than
  • 01:01:51
    the smartest best person so the the
  • 01:01:53
    whole conversation with this affirmative
  • 01:01:55
    action with Dei the whole reason why
  • 01:01:57
    people bring it in is to make this
  • 01:01:58
    imaginary scenario that there's a super
  • 01:02:00
    qualified white man who was overpassed
  • 01:02:03
    by this unqualified stupid idiot person
  • 01:02:06
    of color which is such a terrible
  • 01:02:08
    analogy because it's not true absolutely
  • 01:02:10
    not true that's not what it is Jo bid
  • 01:02:12
    did not say I'm going to choose an
  • 01:02:13
    unqualified person just his own team
  • 01:02:16
    he's saying that I'm going to have two
  • 01:02:17
    qualified people if one comes from a
  • 01:02:19
    different experience it might be better
  • 01:02:20
    to have a diversity and have a better
  • 01:02:22
    perception in forms of he said at the
  • 01:02:23
    South Carolina debate that will pick a
  • 01:02:26
    black woman as my vice president
  • 01:02:28
    secondly Amy kachar came out is this a
  • 01:02:30
    random black woman that he plucked off
  • 01:02:31
    the street or is this a qualified DEA
  • 01:02:34
    general attorney who's had a decorated
  • 01:02:36
    career leading government positions you
  • 01:02:38
    can but you keep rambling about things
  • 01:02:40
    that just aren't relevant to what we're
  • 01:02:41
    talking it is relevant AB kachar in
  • 01:02:42
    vetting came across as the more
  • 01:02:43
    qualified candidate why because they
  • 01:02:45
    said kamla Harris wasn't very smart
  • 01:02:47
    wasn't very bright that's their own
  • 01:02:48
    vetting documents from the from who Joe
  • 01:02:50
    Biden's own vetting documents show why
  • 01:02:52
    would he go against that because the
  • 01:02:53
    base of the Democrat Party demands
  • 01:02:54
    tribal politics and Dei politics over
  • 01:02:56
    competency that's completely inur he
  • 01:02:58
    stated to Jim kber said I will only
  • 01:03:01
    endorse you in the South Carolina
  • 01:03:02
    primary if you say that you're going to
  • 01:03:03
    put a black person preferably a black
  • 01:03:05
    female on your ticket with you therefore
  • 01:03:07
    you winnow the entire universe down and
  • 01:03:09
    say I'm only going to choose from this
  • 01:03:11
    criteria and let's just think more
  • 01:03:12
    broadly if you're about to have heart
  • 01:03:13
    surgery would you rather have a heart
  • 01:03:15
    surgeon that's good and excellent knows
  • 01:03:16
    what he's doing or someone that is a
  • 01:03:18
    black female so and being president is
  • 01:03:20
    more important than being a heart
  • 01:03:21
    surgeon aren't you on record saying that
  • 01:03:22
    you'd be terrified if there was a black
  • 01:03:24
    pilot that was was flying I did say that
  • 01:03:26
    but what why what was the full quote I I
  • 01:03:29
    personally I don't know if you want to
  • 01:03:30
    expand on yeah so this this ties into
  • 01:03:32
    this United Airlines said that half of
  • 01:03:34
    all their new hes are going to be black
  • 01:03:36
    or women and that standards and pursuit
  • 01:03:38
    of Excellence is not going to be taken
  • 01:03:40
    as um seriously as diversity when I'm
  • 01:03:43
    flying a plane I want to know my pilot
  • 01:03:45
    is there because they're a good pilot
  • 01:03:47
    not because they fit some Dei box damn
  • 01:03:49
    it I wish we could have a better
  • 01:03:50
    conversation I'm sorry man
  • 01:03:57
    fast man okay so let's say that KLA
  • 01:04:00
    Harris was the Dei hire as vice
  • 01:04:02
    president do you think she's also a deer
  • 01:04:05
    as the Presidential nominee for the
  • 01:04:06
    Democratic party potentially yeah I mean
  • 01:04:08
    they decided to go to her almost
  • 01:04:10
    immediately because she is the VP but
  • 01:04:11
    also because she fits some criteria
  • 01:04:13
    boxes but let me ask you you you don't
  • 01:04:14
    think it's because Joe Biden nominated
  • 01:04:17
    or no for sure that's part of it of
  • 01:04:18
    course it is but let me ask you what's
  • 01:04:19
    her greatest achievement accomplishment
  • 01:04:20
    her greatest achievement accomplishment
  • 01:04:22
    I'd say her greatest achievement or
  • 01:04:23
    accomplishment is completely destroying
  • 01:04:25
    their Republican party within like 2
  • 01:04:27
    weeks of being nominated like in the
  • 01:04:29
    polls she's just absolutely
  • 01:04:33
    huh
  • 01:04:40
    sorry how are you nice to see you what's
  • 01:04:43
    your name Amanda Amanda so you believe
  • 01:04:45
    because kamla is black and a woman she
  • 01:04:47
    was chosen for belief her own team Joe
  • 01:04:50
    Biden said that he said I said that yeah
  • 01:04:52
    he said I'm first because beforehand he
  • 01:04:54
    said I'm going to choose a black female
  • 01:04:55
    for vice president president he didn't
  • 01:04:56
    say I'm going to choose the most gifted
  • 01:04:57
    or the most talented or the most
  • 01:04:58
    accomplished he said so he said I'm
  • 01:05:00
    going to choose a black female and so by
  • 01:05:03
    definition that is Dei that is not the
  • 01:05:06
    definition of Dei by him saying that he
  • 01:05:08
    was going to choose a black female that
  • 01:05:10
    could insinuate that he already had
  • 01:05:11
    comma mind for the role no way does that
  • 01:05:14
    insinuate that she's Dei what is Dei
  • 01:05:16
    then Dei would be choosing somebody
  • 01:05:20
    based on their race no it's giving
  • 01:05:22
    people of color the opportunity to be
  • 01:05:24
    welcomed into spaces in which they
  • 01:05:26
    typically AR able to get there's never
  • 01:05:27
    been a female black vice president and
  • 01:05:29
    why do you think that is well not why
  • 01:05:31
    you just said that's
  • 01:05:33
    Dei so by definition she's Dei okay so
  • 01:05:36
    she represents diversity within the
  • 01:05:38
    government no I'm saying she got
  • 01:05:39
    elevated because she was a black female
  • 01:05:42
    because if that were the case I'd be the
  • 01:05:43
    president right now do do you do you
  • 01:05:45
    think do you think kamla Harris was
  • 01:05:46
    chosen because of her intelligence her
  • 01:05:48
    qualifications and her intelligence
  • 01:05:50
    really wow if you compare what's
  • 01:05:53
    greatest accom what's her greatest
  • 01:05:54
    accomplish prosecutor within the
  • 01:05:57
    Northern California area you mean
  • 01:05:58
    letting out violent criminals and
  • 01:05:59
    turning San Francisco one of the most
  • 01:06:01
    murderous dangerous arson fied homeless
  • 01:06:03
    field slums in the country that's her
  • 01:06:05
    greatest accomplishment see I actually
  • 01:06:07
    went to UC Berkeley so I lived there I
  • 01:06:09
    don't know if you did uh I went around
  • 01:06:11
    Berkeley is a slum Berkeley is a slum
  • 01:06:13
    have you stepped into Berkeley yes I
  • 01:06:15
    have you think Oakland and Berkeley have
  • 01:06:16
    you lived in Berkeley I've lived in
  • 01:06:18
    Oakland as well your basing your you
  • 01:06:20
    think the Bay Area is like a good area
  • 01:06:22
    in this country I'm from Vegas so I'm
  • 01:06:24
    not from the bay born raised in Vegas
  • 01:06:26
    and went to UC Berkeley CH graduated
  • 01:06:28
    this year what you're saying literally
  • 01:06:31
    in no way shape formar so you think her
  • 01:06:34
    overseeing San Francisco becoming the
  • 01:06:36
    laughing stock of the country is fris is
  • 01:06:38
    not the laughing stock of the country if
  • 01:06:40
    anything that'ss Florida no offense but
  • 01:06:42
    hold on if that's the case why are
  • 01:06:44
    millions of people moving to Florida and
  • 01:06:45
    millions of people leaving California
  • 01:06:47
    because there are cheaper rates there
  • 01:06:49
    people are moving to Las Vegas Las Vegas
  • 01:06:52
    it's cheaper because it's a better run
  • 01:06:53
    State and we don't give money to
  • 01:06:56
    is Northern California is not the
  • 01:06:58
    entirety of California there's Southern
  • 01:07:00
    California Cali why is it that so many
  • 01:07:02
    businesses are leaving San Francisco if
  • 01:07:04
    she did such a great job lowering crime
  • 01:07:06
    do you know businesses go where things
  • 01:07:08
    are cheapest to operate why are they
  • 01:07:10
    cheaper because they're better run
  • 01:07:11
    states do you realize that California is
  • 01:07:13
    one of the most populated states within
  • 01:07:15
    the US so obviously cost are going to be
  • 01:07:17
    high not only that but land within this
  • 01:07:20
    state is also very very very minimal so
  • 01:07:25
    hold on you have you have tons of land
  • 01:07:27
    you're one of the biggest states in
  • 01:07:28
    country yes it is one of the biggest
  • 01:07:29
    lands but do you also take into account
  • 01:07:31
    the population that's here yes Florida
  • 01:07:34
    and Texas have a greater combined
  • 01:07:35
    population than California and Cal
  • 01:07:38
    California has more population and more
  • 01:07:41
    more land mass than Florida why is it
  • 01:07:43
    that San Francisco has a declining
  • 01:07:44
    population and Miami Tampa Orlando have
  • 01:07:47
    an increasing population what does this
  • 01:07:48
    have to do with Dei because she ran San
  • 01:07:50
    Francisco poorly and she was chosen as a
  • 01:07:53
    VP because she was a black woman San
  • 01:07:56
    Francisco she was the da da of San
  • 01:07:58
    Francisco she's Prosecuting and then she
  • 01:08:01
    became the AG of California where crime
  • 01:08:02
    went up homelessness went up arson went
  • 01:08:04
    up kidnapping went up is it not the job
  • 01:08:07
    of the police to get the criminal the
  • 01:08:09
    attorney the attorney general of the
  • 01:08:10
    state is the top cop of the state yes
  • 01:08:12
    and what did she do to lower crime in
  • 01:08:13
    California she convicted those who were
  • 01:08:15
    guilty why did crime go up because as
  • 01:08:19
    the population increases and this econ e
  • 01:08:23
    economy gets worse no
  • 01:08:26
    wor people are becoming more and more
  • 01:08:28
    desperate which leads to C of crime
  • 01:08:31
    thank
  • 01:08:31
    [Applause]
  • 01:08:39
    you mine will be quick mine will be
  • 01:08:41
    really quick goad okay so real quick
  • 01:08:43
    you're saying that the only reason she
  • 01:08:45
    was elected was is because she's black
  • 01:08:48
    so that trumps her being a district
  • 01:08:50
    attorney and all the this is not my
  • 01:08:51
    words I'm just going on Joe Biden's own
  • 01:08:52
    words Joe Biden said I'm going to preset
  • 01:08:54
    criteria based based on black women and
  • 01:08:56
    therefore she met that met that criteria
  • 01:08:58
    and that's why she was selected no why I
  • 01:09:00
    think he was what he was trying to say
  • 01:09:03
    is oh I'm she's just black she was just
  • 01:09:04
    calling her black she's not saying I'm
  • 01:09:06
    doing he's not saying he's not saying
  • 01:09:08
    I'm doing this because she's black
  • 01:09:10
    that's not what she said he made a
  • 01:09:11
    public promise before the selection even
  • 01:09:13
    began and the process began I will put a
  • 01:09:15
    black woman on the ticket so you're
  • 01:09:16
    saying her being dist attorney doesn't
  • 01:09:18
    matter that's not why but an aw being a
  • 01:09:21
    failed
  • 01:09:22
    businessman and making all the comments
  • 01:09:25
    weird comments he's made well hold on a
  • 01:09:26
    second that doesn't have like what I'm
  • 01:09:27
    getting at though is that if she was not
  • 01:09:29
    a black woman she never would have been
  • 01:09:31
    chosen as vice president her record was
  • 01:09:33
    abysmal she was a terrible Attorney
  • 01:09:35
    General of California she had
  • 01:09:42
    poorly I'm so sorry I'll be quior I'll
  • 01:09:45
    be quick I'm so sorry she she gets the
  • 01:09:46
    next one yeah all right sorry yeah I
  • 01:09:49
    just have to know do you think Tim Waltz
  • 01:09:50
    is a Dei candidate okay I just wanted to
  • 01:09:52
    see consist Dei does not mean black
  • 01:09:54
    timal was only chosen because the
  • 01:09:56
    Democrat Party is doing so poorly with
  • 01:09:58
    white men that they tried to find a
  • 01:09:59
    white man that they could put on the
  • 01:10:01
    ticket but then also true Tim Walls is
  • 01:10:02
    the first White Dei candidate in history
  • 01:10:04
    okay in the Democratic primaries KLA
  • 01:10:05
    harros was performing incredibly well
  • 01:10:08
    and she wasn't performing well in the
  • 01:10:09
    primaries just because she was black she
  • 01:10:11
    was performing well in the primaries
  • 01:10:12
    because during her time as a senator she
  • 01:10:14
    spoke incredibly eloquently I used to
  • 01:10:16
    watch hold on a second how did she do in
  • 01:10:17
    the Democrat primaries she did like much
  • 01:10:20
    better than Amy kachar she didn't even
  • 01:10:22
    make it to Iowa she dropped out months
  • 01:10:24
    ahead of the first primary she was super
  • 01:10:26
    unpopular not well-liked her campaign
  • 01:10:29
    fizzled out so she was she was popular
  • 01:10:32
    initially initially yes and then the
  • 01:10:33
    more people learned about her the more
  • 01:10:34
    realized she was awful well it was
  • 01:10:36
    mostly because like progressives are
  • 01:10:37
    really upset about her being a DA which
  • 01:10:39
    like can be like that that's a
  • 01:10:41
    completely different why aren't
  • 01:10:42
    progressives upset about that now I mean
  • 01:10:44
    they are but oh they are that's new to
  • 01:10:46
    me everyone's talking about how great
  • 01:10:48
    prosecut she is progressives are
  • 01:10:49
    definitely upset about the like how um
  • 01:10:51
    like the Biden Administration has
  • 01:10:53
    handled like the atrocities and gods and
  • 01:10:55
    how like they they are definitely things
  • 01:10:57
    that Democrats are upset about however
  • 01:10:59
    that's not the point of this
  • 01:11:00
    conversation i that's correct that is
  • 01:11:01
    not Point that's not the point what the
  • 01:11:03
    point is is that a lot
  • 01:11:12
    of a thanks
  • 01:11:16
    guys okay hi how are you doing right so
  • 01:11:21
    um you keep saying that K Harris is a
  • 01:11:23
    dii candidate and I feel my main fallacy
  • 01:11:26
    with this argument is that competency
  • 01:11:29
    can't be
  • 01:11:30
    objectively determined because we all
  • 01:11:33
    have subjective definitions of what a
  • 01:11:35
    competent politician is but my question
  • 01:11:38
    for you is if kamla Harris is a Dei
  • 01:11:41
    candidate why is she beating Trump in
  • 01:11:43
    the polls right now we'll see what
  • 01:11:44
    happens in November okay but she's
  • 01:11:45
    currently beating Trump in the polls so
  • 01:11:47
    either if the polls are right I grant
  • 01:11:49
    you that she's incompetent or or maybe
  • 01:11:51
    she's a new candidate with a big surge I
  • 01:11:53
    I I would caution you being a little
  • 01:11:55
    like this point in the election getting
  • 01:11:56
    too cocky because we remember what
  • 01:11:57
    happened with I'm not getting cocky I'm
  • 01:11:58
    asking you to answer a question if she
  • 01:12:00
    is incompetent how could she beat the
  • 01:12:01
    president who you said is an as of the
  • 01:12:03
    timing of this filming can you name to
  • 01:12:05
    me how many times she sat down for an
  • 01:12:06
    interview what no she refuses to talk to
  • 01:12:09
    the Press refuses to take questions
  • 01:12:10
    she's not one sit down interview in
  • 01:12:12
    nearly 25 days at the filming of this
  • 01:12:13
    interview mind you which I don't know a
  • 01:12:16
    very weird point to make why would I
  • 01:12:18
    count how many times kamla Harris has
  • 01:12:21
    interview because she refuses to take
  • 01:12:22
    questions from the press and media like
  • 01:12:24
    shouldn't you do that if you're the city
  • 01:12:25
    vice president
  • 01:12:28
    she's uh he actually did three last
  • 01:12:30
    Sunday and one today with Meet the Press
  • 01:12:32
    so the quality the qualification of a
  • 01:12:34
    good president is to take an interview
  • 01:12:37
    if you can't take a single question but
  • 01:12:39
    let me ask you this because it's on you
  • 01:12:41
    can what's her greatest accomplishment
  • 01:12:42
    as vice president as vice president
  • 01:12:45
    being the first female all black
  • 01:12:48
    president we've never had no no like I
  • 01:12:50
    got that but like what what's her
  • 01:12:50
    accomplishment that made people's lives
  • 01:12:52
    better I don't know vice presidents
  • 01:12:53
    don't really do much to be honest can
  • 01:12:55
    you name one thing she's done that's
  • 01:12:56
    good no probably
  • 01:12:59
    not thank you the inflation reduction
  • 01:13:01
    act really did that lower
  • 01:13:11
    inflation what's your name Brad Brad
  • 01:13:14
    Brady nice to meet you uh I like the
  • 01:13:16
    idea 30 seconds on 30 seconds off I
  • 01:13:18
    think the best thing I could say about
  • 01:13:19
    this is you have your opinion and I can
  • 01:13:22
    have mine you believe that Donald Trump
  • 01:13:24
    was a good president I maybe don't
  • 01:13:26
    believe that you believe that KLA Harris
  • 01:13:28
    is a Dei candidate for the position of
  • 01:13:30
    President I don't believe that what I'm
  • 01:13:32
    getting to is what do you gain from this
  • 01:13:35
    if I concede and say that KLA Harris is
  • 01:13:37
    a Dei candidate what do you gain because
  • 01:13:39
    I know what it is you're baiting us into
  • 01:13:41
    rage so that you can make money on your
  • 01:13:43
    Tik Tok account you're baiting college
  • 01:13:44
    students all over the world and to
  • 01:13:46
    arguing with you over these fallacies
  • 01:13:48
    you throw a red herring out there and
  • 01:13:50
    you're making money from this account
  • 01:13:51
    well we're sitting here and looking
  • 01:13:53
    stupid first of all I don't control this
  • 01:13:54
    account I'm guest here this is Jubilee
  • 01:13:56
    media and they're going to edit it how
  • 01:13:57
    they see fit okay number one number two
  • 01:14:00
    it needs to be acknowledged that she
  • 01:14:01
    didn't earn it she didn't win a Democrat
  • 01:14:03
    primary she dropped out in the Democrat
  • 01:14:05
    Primary in 2020 she's never been likable
  • 01:14:08
    she's got there simply because of race
  • 01:14:10
    not because of Competency not because
  • 01:14:12
    she's good at her job and I think that's
  • 01:14:14
    wrong and it needs to be called out
  • 01:14:15
    you're bringing up qualitative examples
  • 01:14:17
    these are all subjective qualitative
  • 01:14:19
    examples her race her competency her
  • 01:14:21
    dropping out of the election these
  • 01:14:24
    that's not what you said earlier this is
  • 01:14:25
    I'm talking about the points you've just
  • 01:14:26
    bought up multiple qualitative points
  • 01:14:28
    and these points can be believed by you
  • 01:14:30
    and not by me as you believe in a God
  • 01:14:31
    and I don't these are qualitative
  • 01:14:33
    arguments that you're making against me
  • 01:14:35
    for this and I can believe differently
  • 01:14:37
    than you and I think we can agree to
  • 01:14:39
    disagree on this one okay fine perfect
  • 01:14:48
    okay I think this is going to take the
  • 01:14:50
    entire time you're welcome 30 on 30 off
  • 01:14:54
    how do you feel about the Senate
  • 01:14:56
    uh far as her her tiebreaking vote of
  • 01:14:58
    the Senate no no no I'm just saying like
  • 01:14:59
    Senate like like the Senate is
  • 01:15:00
    technically Dei in a certain sense for
  • 01:15:02
    like small states like Wyoming gets
  • 01:15:04
    people W Wyoming get a greater vot than
  • 01:15:06
    in California like Rhode island in
  • 01:15:08
    Hawaii I'm giving you an example
  • 01:15:09
    California I get less of a vote than
  • 01:15:11
    someone who exists in Wyoming so we're
  • 01:15:13
    giving people in Wyoming more say than
  • 01:15:15
    they necessarily should given that
  • 01:15:17
    they're one individual so why do you
  • 01:15:18
    believe in Dei as it relates to how our
  • 01:15:20
    government is set up we don't believe in
  • 01:15:21
    Dei in terms of allowing for people who
  • 01:15:24
    are black or who are women to be in
  • 01:15:25
    positions of power that they have not
  • 01:15:26
    been allowed in historically speaking so
  • 01:15:29
    um is the electoral college and the
  • 01:15:31
    Senate based on race it's it's
  • 01:15:33
    predicated off of diversity equity and
  • 01:15:35
    inclusion right like inclusion of of of
  • 01:15:37
    country areas inclusion of rural areas
  • 01:15:40
    inclusion of white men like you okay so
  • 01:15:43
    you mean like Hawaii I'm referencing I'm
  • 01:15:46
    referencing you could say smaller States
  • 01:15:48
    or places that have less people in it
  • 01:15:50
    obviously would be able to have more of
  • 01:15:52
    a say per individual so your argument is
  • 01:15:54
    that US Senate is a Dei I I can be
  • 01:15:56
    honest I've never heard that argument
  • 01:15:57
    but I think it's a little silly but how
  • 01:15:59
    is it silly argue against it instead of
  • 01:16:01
    just saying it's silly well right so
  • 01:16:03
    it's silly on its face because first of
  • 01:16:06
    all we have on the House Representatives
  • 01:16:07
    is proportional to
  • 01:16:09
    population but but the Senate isn't so
  • 01:16:11
    it's de it's not Dei yes it is what why
  • 01:16:14
    would you say it's diversity Equity
  • 01:16:15
    inclusions because Wyoming gets two
  • 01:16:16
    senators they're their own sovereign
  • 01:16:18
    state aren they for Country areas for
  • 01:16:19
    rural areas equity for rural areas for
  • 01:16:23
    smaller States so let's go back to the
  • 01:16:24
    Federal papers and the founding fathers
  • 01:16:26
    why was the Senate compos tell me why
  • 01:16:27
    it's not de like under your definition
  • 01:16:29
    why not based on race and by way it does
  • 01:16:32
    have to be based it's not based on
  • 01:16:33
    equity and it's not based on inclusion
  • 01:16:35
    can you have based upon different
  • 01:16:36
    character other than race whether or not
  • 01:16:38
    you're a woman whether or not let let me
  • 01:16:41
    finish why it's because we are a
  • 01:16:43
    collection of States we are not a
  • 01:16:45
    federal project so states rights usurp
  • 01:16:48
    federals do you know what the 17th
  • 01:16:49
    amendment is do you know do you know the
  • 01:16:50
    why the Articles of Confederation failed
  • 01:16:52
    yes but what is the 10th Amendment
  • 01:16:54
    because had to right had too much power
  • 01:16:56
    that's why we specifically aded the let
  • 01:16:58
    me let me make one point okay which is
  • 01:17:00
    how did we us to elect
  • 01:17:02
    Senators it' be population no we used to
  • 01:17:05
    elect Senators based on state
  • 01:17:06
    legislatures so the Senate is an
  • 01:17:08
    extension of the state legislative
  • 01:17:10
    bodies that's not Dei that's federalism
  • 01:17:13
    that's the way that our system is set up
  • 01:17:15
    which is a bottom up citizen-led
  • 01:17:16
    government to allow the states which are
  • 01:17:19
    first and foremost Sovereign so it goes
  • 01:17:20
    in this lad in this country that's still
  • 01:17:21
    de for those States for those country
  • 01:17:23
    areas no because it's blind it's not
  • 01:17:25
    that
  • 01:17:26
    oh is not only based on race hold on a
  • 01:17:29
    second diversity for for Country
  • 01:17:31
    diversity for World equity for World an
  • 01:17:33
    inclusion of that's an inter point is
  • 01:17:36
    only because associate with Harris let
  • 01:17:38
    me ask you a question is there a single
  • 01:17:39
    instance in Corporate America or Dei is
  • 01:17:41
    implemented where diversity means
  • 01:17:44
    anything other than skin color diversity
  • 01:17:46
    so diversity view women women what fine
  • 01:17:50
    how about chromosone or diversity or
  • 01:17:52
    skin color so so so skin color there's
  • 01:17:54
    gender you had to you have to move the
  • 01:17:55
    goal poost a little bit because you got
  • 01:17:56
    destroyed there all right but there's
  • 01:17:57
    also no I'm just asking a very simple
  • 01:17:59
    question the answer is no because our
  • 01:18:01
    system of do mean that's not DEET your
  • 01:18:03
    Senate is Dei what was your definition
  • 01:18:05
    though what what is what was your
  • 01:18:06
    definition diversity Equity inclusion
  • 01:18:08
    diversity doesn't only apply to race
  • 01:18:09
    you're just saying other people definity
  • 01:18:11
    Equity inclusion to be based on race you
  • 01:18:13
    didn't though let me finish because
  • 01:18:15
    you're saying it didn't earn it you know
  • 01:18:16
    who did earn it South Dakota and North
  • 01:18:17
    Dakota when they charted themselves into
  • 01:18:19
    States Wyoming didn't earn it because
  • 01:18:20
    they have less into a state hold on
  • 01:18:30
    all right who really wants to go I I
  • 01:18:32
    don't want to pick on I don't want to
  • 01:18:33
    pick on somebody who doesn't want to get
  • 01:18:34
    picked on
  • 01:18:35
    okay
  • 01:18:40
    um you want to debate wa what is the top
  • 01:18:44
    whatever you want so you're you're the
  • 01:18:46
    affirmative I'm the
  • 01:18:48
    negative yeah let's do it you're good
  • 01:18:50
    with 10 minutes I don't want to put you
  • 01:18:51
    in a spot you don't want to be in no no
  • 01:18:52
    no let's do it let's fun you sure
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    [Applause]
  • 01:19:00
    okay okay I guess the claim I'm making
  • 01:19:03
    is that affirmative action is
  • 01:19:05
    constitutional tell me about your plan I
  • 01:19:07
    wanted to talk about affirmative action
  • 01:19:08
    because we haven't really gotten to it
  • 01:19:10
    and it's recently been revoked based on
  • 01:19:13
    the new Supreme Court ruling um and I
  • 01:19:16
    firmly believe that affirmative action
  • 01:19:18
    is constitutional and is a right that
  • 01:19:21
    certain American citizens deserve and I
  • 01:19:24
    just wanted to your thoughts on that um
  • 01:19:26
    well the 14th amendment allows for equal
  • 01:19:28
    protection regardless of race and it's a
  • 01:19:30
    colorblind Amendment and the whole idea
  • 01:19:32
    of affirmative action is to try to give
  • 01:19:34
    people
  • 01:19:36
    extra um boost based on their skin color
  • 01:19:40
    or their racial background which by
  • 01:19:42
    definition Cuts underneath the idea of
  • 01:19:44
    equal protection okay um so do you know
  • 01:19:47
    why the 14th amendment was founded and
  • 01:19:49
    the equal protection and Equal Rights
  • 01:19:51
    Act yeah the 14th amendment was a post
  • 01:19:52
    Civil War amendment 145 167 we all
  • 01:19:55
    during Reconstruction so what was it in
  • 01:19:57
    response to slavery oh and who were
  • 01:20:00
    slaves well that's that's an important
  • 01:20:02
    point so the do you think affirmative
  • 01:20:04
    action will help heal the
  • 01:20:06
    multigenerational problems of slavery I
  • 01:20:08
    do I really do because um so let's just
  • 01:20:11
    talk about the history for a second
  • 01:20:12
    slavery begins in the early 1800s
  • 01:20:16
    earlier no slavery 1816 is the beginning
  • 01:20:20
    of slavy
  • 01:20:21
    1619 oh yeah I guess it would be okay
  • 01:20:23
    first slaves come in 16 19 doesn't end
  • 01:20:26
    until 1800s 1880s then we go into Jim
  • 01:20:30
    Crow laws starting in
  • 01:20:31
    1877 and black people are not given
  • 01:20:35
    equal rights until officially 1965 would
  • 01:20:40
    you agree with that that's generally the
  • 01:20:42
    the correct telling yeah so you know
  • 01:20:44
    1960s 197 just so we're clear that black
  • 01:20:47
    Americans able to serve in office in the
  • 01:20:49
    early 1900s they were able to vote
  • 01:20:50
    throughout the 1900s but yes there were
  • 01:20:52
    pole taxes there was Jim Crow laws there
  • 01:20:54
    was was segregation of course there was
  • 01:20:56
    and we have to be yeah delal not to
  • 01:20:58
    acknowledge those things okay so we can
  • 01:20:59
    acknowledge all of those things can we
  • 01:21:01
    also acknowledge due to the laws under
  • 01:21:04
    Jim Crow that black people were
  • 01:21:07
    significantly hindered from economic
  • 01:21:09
    advancement this is a really important
  • 01:21:11
    question the data shows not really it
  • 01:21:13
    was evil it was terrible but black
  • 01:21:16
    Americans are poor today in 2024 than
  • 01:21:18
    they were in the 1950s yes why do you
  • 01:21:21
    think that is good question so we have
  • 01:21:22
    the Civil Rights Act we have more
  • 01:21:23
    benefits more government programs
  • 01:21:25
    something changed between the 1950s and
  • 01:21:27
    2024 so there's two answers to this
  • 01:21:29
    question either America got more racist
  • 01:21:31
    since 1950s 2024 so like that 70-year
  • 01:21:34
    period because blacks America black
  • 01:21:36
    Americans are worse off today per capita
  • 01:21:39
    they you agree with that okay good yeah
  • 01:21:41
    than in the 1950s or there's another
  • 01:21:43
    explanation and I think the truth is
  • 01:21:44
    somewhere in the middle which is I think
  • 01:21:46
    you would acknowledge that the The
  • 01:21:49
    Disappearance of the black father has
  • 01:21:50
    been the number one driver of black
  • 01:21:52
    poverty in this country now there are
  • 01:21:53
    reasons for that
  • 01:21:55
    yeah what do you think the reasons for
  • 01:21:56
    that are well culture is one would you
  • 01:21:58
    agree so actually let's go back to the
  • 01:22:00
    foundation prison pipeline all that
  • 01:22:02
    stuff but do at least can we at least
  • 01:22:04
    agree that black dad's not being around
  • 01:22:06
    is a bad thing anyone's father not being
  • 01:22:09
    around is a bad thing of course but 75%
  • 01:22:11
    of black youth are not raised with a
  • 01:22:12
    father in the home it's the highest of
  • 01:22:14
    any group in the country it used to be
  • 01:22:15
    25% in the 1950s so it's gone up
  • 01:22:17
    dramatically in 70 years okay so you are
  • 01:22:20
    blaming the fact that black people have
  • 01:22:22
    not be able been able to achieve
  • 01:22:25
    economic equality and advancement in
  • 01:22:28
    this country decre specifically and
  • 01:22:30
    solely because of the ABS not solely it
  • 01:22:33
    is the most primary ingredient reason
  • 01:22:35
    most so you think it's the absence of
  • 01:22:36
    black fathers correct and you think what
  • 01:22:38
    else public sector teer unions that have
  • 01:22:40
    kept these schools crummy and kids
  • 01:22:42
    aren't reading and teachers keep getting
  • 01:22:43
    paid we don't fire Bad Teachers that's a
  • 01:22:45
    big thing okay war on police in our
  • 01:22:46
    inner cities and not having enough
  • 01:22:48
    police and not actually put locking up
  • 01:22:50
    criminals let me hear me out for example
  • 01:22:52
    in Chicago do you know that only half of
  • 01:22:54
    all murders go go solved in the city of
  • 01:22:56
    Chicago that doesn't surprise me at all
  • 01:22:58
    that's a problem right that is a problem
  • 01:22:59
    yeah so we need more police more
  • 01:23:00
    detectives to solve those murders but I
  • 01:23:02
    I want to hear your points to I'm
  • 01:23:03
    talking too much so let's go back a
  • 01:23:06
    little bit to what you said in the issue
  • 01:23:08
    of policing now starting in the 1980s
  • 01:23:11
    and continuing onward there's been a War
  • 01:23:12
    on Drugs is this correct I like I like
  • 01:23:15
    the War on Drugs you like the War on
  • 01:23:17
    Drugs so during the War on Drugs it
  • 01:23:20
    created an epidemic of mass
  • 01:23:22
    incarceration specifically
  • 01:23:25
    if you're using drugs no or pedaling
  • 01:23:27
    drugs if you don't use drugs then you
  • 01:23:29
    don't go to jail right so you believe
  • 01:23:31
    that the criminal justice system is
  • 01:23:33
    Flawless no I've never said Flawless
  • 01:23:34
    there's a lot of people in jail that
  • 01:23:35
    shouldn't be in jail there's a lot of
  • 01:23:36
    problems in any system okay so wait
  • 01:23:38
    let's CL on that so you believe that a
  • 01:23:40
    lot of people who have gone to jail
  • 01:23:42
    shouldn't be in jail a small percent
  • 01:23:43
    what percent would you say 5% you would
  • 01:23:46
    say only 5% correct when you have a
  • 01:23:48
    system of justice you're going to have
  • 01:23:50
    scummy prosecutors you're going to have
  • 01:23:52
    bad defense attorneys I have a question
  • 01:23:53
    can I get a Google what percentage of
  • 01:23:57
    people currently incarcerated are black
  • 01:23:59
    it's way larger than well it's hold on
  • 01:24:01
    it's what it's way larger than no I know
  • 01:24:03
    but the fact the fact I'm saying the
  • 01:24:05
    fact I'm saying
  • 01:24:07
    5% so that's the point that I'm trying
  • 01:24:09
    to make exactly who am I Deb am I
  • 01:24:11
    debating here am I if your own
  • 01:24:12
    government is pumping drugs yeah so wait
  • 01:24:15
    okay so I want to make a quick you're
  • 01:24:17
    right black Americans are in prison far
  • 01:24:19
    greater than the percentage of the
  • 01:24:20
    population so the black Americans about
  • 01:24:22
    13 to 14% of the population about half
  • 01:24:24
    prisoners are black so blacks commit
  • 01:24:26
    more crimes than whites do they commit
  • 01:24:28
    more murders they commit more arson they
  • 01:24:30
    commit more kidnappings for example
  • 01:24:32
    blacks are 133% of the population and
  • 01:24:34
    they commit 58% of all the murders
  • 01:24:36
    that's not a War on Drugs That's a
  • 01:24:37
    culture problem okay so let's talk about
  • 01:24:39
    that culture black people have been
  • 01:24:43
    legislatively subjugated up until
  • 01:24:47
    1965 I'll give it I mean honestly it's
  • 01:24:50
    later but let's just say 1965 you do not
  • 01:24:53
    think that that 10 generations of
  • 01:24:56
    legislative subjugation and slavery
  • 01:24:59
    during that time
  • 01:25:01
    4,000 black men women and children are
  • 01:25:04
    lynched as the result of race riots in
  • 01:25:07
    this country you do not think that these
  • 01:25:09
    things have a lasting effect we have had
  • 01:25:11
    10 generations of subjugation and four
  • 01:25:14
    of legislative course they have an
  • 01:25:15
    impact but it's more on you to explain
  • 01:25:17
    why things got worse since the Civil
  • 01:25:19
    Rights Act more violent less fathers
  • 01:25:22
    around poorer why is that because of
  • 01:25:25
    mass incarceration and the unfair
  • 01:25:27
    criminalization of black men but let's
  • 01:25:29
    just take murders for example why are
  • 01:25:31
    why blacks are 13% of the population and
  • 01:25:33
    commit 58% of the murders why is that
  • 01:25:36
    because people in affluent and whiter
  • 01:25:38
    neighborhoods are not being policed at
  • 01:25:40
    the same are more I'm talking about dead
  • 01:25:42
    bodies there's no like we're not talking
  • 01:25:45
    about police saying we're talking about
  • 01:25:45
    murders why are so many blacks
  • 01:25:48
    committing murders outside of their
  • 01:25:49
    population okay let's take it back to
  • 01:25:51
    some history I'm curious for an answer
  • 01:25:53
    to that question going to give you one
  • 01:25:55
    so let's go to redlining okay red lining
  • 01:25:58
    red lining yes is why so many blacks are
  • 01:26:00
    killing each other no let me finish my
  • 01:26:02
    claim and then you can respond is that
  • 01:26:04
    okay okay so red lining federally
  • 01:26:07
    mandated or sustained by the FHA right
  • 01:26:11
    separating black Americans to
  • 01:26:14
    specifically impoverished and relegated
  • 01:26:16
    areas of the country we are incapable of
  • 01:26:19
    buying homes and putting Equity into
  • 01:26:22
    neighborhoods with lower crime rates and
  • 01:26:24
    better Educational Systems we do not
  • 01:26:27
    have access to things that would uplift
  • 01:26:30
    and help our community when you are put
  • 01:26:34
    in an
  • 01:26:36
    environment that
  • 01:26:38
    promotes and
  • 01:26:41
    reinforces social and economic
  • 01:26:45
    inequality you become desperate and are
  • 01:26:47
    forced to do things that maybe don't
  • 01:26:50
    align with your values what you're
  • 01:26:53
    making you're making an excuse for a lot
  • 01:26:56
    of murder when you have steal a high
  • 01:26:59
    concentration of a subjugated people in
  • 01:27:02
    one area if you were right when blacks
  • 01:27:04
    in America did not have the same rights
  • 01:27:06
    they had today there were less they were
  • 01:27:07
    less murderous there was less Breakin
  • 01:27:10
    why is that so I'm sorry are you trying
  • 01:27:12
    to say that blacks Thrive under
  • 01:27:14
    subjugation no I'm not I'm saying they
  • 01:27:15
    I'm asking you the question the data
  • 01:27:17
    shows they were actually better in the
  • 01:27:18
    1940s it was bad it was evil but what
  • 01:27:21
    happened something changed they
  • 01:27:22
    committed less crimes maybe they afraid
  • 01:27:25
    I mean
  • 01:27:25
    4,000 black men women and children were
  • 01:27:29
    killed in violent Lynch Mark that's your
  • 01:27:31
    explanation but I racial Terror
  • 01:27:33
    permeated American culture for hundreds
  • 01:27:35
    of years Black America is worse than it
  • 01:27:37
    has
  • 01:27:38
    been years the generational psych of an
  • 01:27:41
    entire group of people I'm sure it did
  • 01:27:43
    I'm not discounting that I'm just trying
  • 01:27:44
    to understand why is it the more social
  • 01:27:46
    welfare we've done so we've spent 20
  • 01:27:47
    trillion dollar on uplifting black
  • 01:27:49
    communities 20 trillion and black
  • 01:27:51
    Americans are poor we've done everything
  • 01:27:53
    that's been asked
  • 01:27:54
    you haven't done everything that's been
  • 01:27:56
    asked
  • 01:27:57
    though subsidized housing Medicaid
  • 01:28:00
    public schooling going subsidized
  • 01:28:03
    College we're talking about2 trillion
  • 01:28:04
    have been spent on the Great Society and
  • 01:28:06
    yet Black America is poorer more
  • 01:28:08
    murderous more dangerous so there's an
  • 01:28:09
    explanation I'm asking you we are not
  • 01:28:11
    asking for handouts we are asking for
  • 01:28:13
    equity and part of equity equity mean
  • 01:28:16
    you mean taking from other people excuse
  • 01:28:18
    me it means sharing which is something
  • 01:28:20
    that you guys seem to have a very hard
  • 01:28:22
    time doing sharing so somebody has to
  • 01:28:24
    explain why black America and you
  • 01:28:26
    haven't is 13% of the population and
  • 01:28:29
    commits 58% of the murders black people
  • 01:28:31
    have built and founded the
  • 01:28:34
    society thank
  • 01:28:38
    you I was very smart group very
  • 01:28:40
    opinionate there were a couple other
  • 01:28:41
    people I kind of felt bad for them they
  • 01:28:42
    had a lot of strong opinions but they
  • 01:28:43
    just weren't ready for Prime Time
  • 01:28:45
    overall very good group very impressive
  • 01:28:46
    Republicans tend to just focus on like
  • 01:28:50
    preventing you from arguing your point
  • 01:28:52
    not actually countering the points that
  • 01:28:53
    you come up with he often will switch
  • 01:28:56
    the topic like do a lot of Gish
  • 01:28:58
    Galloping and like kind of filibustering
  • 01:29:00
    to get people to not be able to make the
  • 01:29:03
    points that they want to make and I
  • 01:29:05
    definitely feel like he did that to me
  • 01:29:07
    look Charlie's a talented guy there's a
  • 01:29:08
    reason why he spoke at the RNC he's
  • 01:29:10
    media trained he's had conversations
  • 01:29:12
    like this before and he's built a career
  • 01:29:14
    on dunking on college students but for a
  • 01:29:16
    bunch of liberal students who don't have
  • 01:29:17
    that same type of media training and who
  • 01:29:19
    aren't as prepared to be in
  • 01:29:21
    confrontational formats like this I
  • 01:29:22
    thought they did a really good job of
  • 01:29:23
    our articulating their views yeah Mason
  • 01:29:25
    was the smartest kid for sure uh Parker
  • 01:29:28
    needs to calm down very smart but kept
  • 01:29:29
    on changing the topic uh but he's got
  • 01:29:31
    talent very annoying though smart but
  • 01:29:33
    Annoying Parker definitely gave Charlie
  • 01:29:35
    a run for his money yeah Parker ate
  • 01:29:37
    Parker ate that down one girl was very
  • 01:29:38
    nasty she was a very nasty person she
  • 01:29:40
    overly personalized it I honestly don't
  • 01:29:42
    regret any of the things I said the only
  • 01:29:44
    thing I would have taken back is I said
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    at the end I as I walked away I said I
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    hope your daughter can get away from you
  • 01:29:51
    that one was a dig and that was my bad
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    but honestly in the case of her being a
  • 01:29:56
    10-year-old pregnant and he won't let
  • 01:29:58
    her get medical help that's just wild to
  • 01:30:01
    me I can't believe that I think the
  • 01:30:02
    group did very great it's a very hard
  • 01:30:04
    environment for people to learn in these
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    types of areas but I think it's best
  • 01:30:08
    that people get involved in debate and
  • 01:30:09
    entertainment as it helps people grow
  • 01:30:11
    and critically think in our society I
  • 01:30:13
    thought it was very valuable I hope
  • 01:30:14
    people learned something um I think the
  • 01:30:15
    students were able to refine their
  • 01:30:16
    arguments and hopefully this gets seen
  • 01:30:18
    by millions of people where they're able
  • 01:30:19
    to see what side they land on uh but
  • 01:30:22
    yeah it's not easy just to stand there
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    be 20 on one but uh only at Jubilee
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