Creating Commercial Magic: How Great Sync Placements Are Made ft. Heather Cook CEO of Freedom Music

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fUtj6S1vJg

Resumen

TLDRIn this episode of 'Selling the Soundtrack', Heather Cook, a prominent figure in music sync licensing, shares her journey in the industry, discussing her experiences with major brands and her own company, Freedom Music Group. With over 20 years of experience, she emphasizes the importance of collaboration, marketing, and understanding the sync landscape for artists. Heather highlights the significance of storytelling in music and offers insights on effectively pitching songs for sync opportunities. She also discusses the Nashville Sync Coalition, a nonprofit organization aimed at educating and building community within the sync industry.

Para llevar

  • 🎶 Heather Cook has over 20 years of experience in the music industry.
  • 💼 She owns Freedom Music Group, focusing on sync licensing.
  • 📈 Marketing is crucial for artists to succeed in sync licensing.
  • 🤝 Collaboration with other artists can enhance music quality.
  • 🎤 Rock, pop, and hip-hop are the most popular genres for sync.
  • 📅 Aim to create at least one song a week for better opportunities.
  • 📖 Storytelling in music is essential for effective branding.
  • 🌍 The Nashville Sync Coalition supports education and community in sync.
  • 📧 Artists should submit clean metadata and a short bio when pitching.
  • 🎧 Heather emphasizes the importance of building a personal brand.

Cronología

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The podcast introduces Heather Cook, a veteran in the music sync licensing industry with over 20 years of experience. She owns Freedom Music Group and has worked with major brands like Apple and Nike. Heather is also an accomplished singer, songwriter, and author of 'Music for Marketing and Brands'.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Heather shares her early journey in music, starting with playing the violin at age 8 and later exploring other instruments. She faced challenges in defining her sound and eventually pursued a music business degree at Belmont University, where she began managing artists and gaining industry experience.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    After graduating, Heather started her first company, Cooking Up Music, focusing on music publishing and artist management. She gained valuable connections and experience, which led her to a position at Peer Music, where she worked in the sync department and learned the intricacies of music licensing.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    At Peer Music, Heather oversaw a sync rep program and helped artists land placements in various media. She shares a pivotal moment when one of her managed artists, Emily Reed, was offered a writing opportunity with Disney, marking a significant breakthrough in her career.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Heather discusses her transition from Peer Music to Eternal Music Group, where she produced albums for a music library. She emphasizes the importance of collaboration and how her experiences at both companies shaped her career and artistic direction.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    After facing health challenges, including chronic pain and surgeries, Heather found renewed energy and creativity, leading her to write over 100 songs during the pandemic. She launched her artist project, Brewster, and began releasing music that reflects her rock influences.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Heather shares her experiences with her new company, Freedom Music Group, which she started in December. She has signed over 100 writers and producers, emphasizing the importance of building a supportive community and fostering collaboration among artists.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    The conversation shifts to the importance of marketing in the music industry. Heather advises artists to actively promote themselves and their music, highlighting the need for a strong online presence and storytelling to attract music supervisors and brands.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Heather discusses the genres that are most successful in sync licensing, noting that rock, pop, and hip-hop dominate the market. She also mentions the growing interest in Latin music and the challenges of placing country music in advertising due to its storytelling nature.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Heather provides tips for aspiring musicians, emphasizing the importance of honing their craft, collaborating with others, and setting realistic goals for songwriting. She encourages artists to be proactive in their marketing efforts and to continuously create music.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:56:16

    The podcast concludes with Heather sharing her contact information and the launch of Nashville Sync, a nonprofit organization aimed at educating and connecting music professionals in the sync licensing industry.

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Vídeo de preguntas y respuestas

  • What is sync licensing?

    Sync licensing is the process of licensing music for use in visual media such as films, TV shows, commercials, and video games.

  • How can artists get their music placed in sync opportunities?

    Artists should focus on creating high-quality music, collaborating with others, and effectively marketing themselves to music supervisors and brands.

  • What genres are most popular for sync licensing?

    The most popular genres for sync licensing are rock, pop, and hip-hop.

  • What should artists include when submitting their music for sync opportunities?

    Artists should include a few songs, a clean metadata, a short bio, and a link to their music, preferably through a streaming service.

  • How important is marketing for musicians in the sync space?

    Marketing is crucial as it helps to build an artist's brand and makes it easier for music supervisors to connect with their music.

  • What is the role of a music supervisor?

    A music supervisor is responsible for selecting and licensing music for visual media, ensuring it fits the project's needs.

  • How often should artists aim to create new music?

    Aiming to create at least one song a week or around 100 songs a year is a good goal for artists in the sync space.

  • What is the significance of storytelling in music for sync licensing?

    Storytelling in music helps convey the right message and emotion that aligns with the brand's goals in advertising.

  • What is the Nashville Sync Coalition?

    The Nashville Sync Coalition is a nonprofit organization aimed at building community and providing education for sync executives and artists in Nashville.

  • How can artists connect with Heather Cook?

    Artists can connect with Heather through her company website Freedom Music Group or her personal website.

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    welcome to selling the soundtrack your
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    go-to pod for Everything music sync
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    licensing if you're already making
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    bangers your music could be making you
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    bank today we're here with Heather cook
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    she is legendary in the industry she's
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    been working in the music business for
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    over 20 years she owns her own company
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    Freedom music group which is a sync
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    repap company and she's also worked in
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    the sync departments at peer music and
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    eternal music she has her own book
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    called music for marketing and Brands
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    which is available for purchase on her
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    website she has big placements ranging
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    from Apple to Target to Nike and so much
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    more she's also a singer a songwriter um
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    she's a director for documentary she's a
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    mom she's a wife she likes to keep
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    herself busy thanks so much for being
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    here Heather thank you for having me
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    for 20% off Heather please share your
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    journey with us oh boy that's a big
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    question I know I want to hear all of it
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    um yeah so I'll I'll I mean kind I'll
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    just start at the beginning um I started
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    writing and creating music when I was
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    like 8 n years old and so I started
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    playing violin was my first instrument
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    and I played an orchestra as a kid um I
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    also played cello and that was the first
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    times that I was like oh man I really
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    love music I want to create music and we
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    had a piano in the house and I would
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    Tinker on it and I would figure out
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    Melodies and stuff but we couldn't
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    afford to pay for piano lessons so um
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    there was one instrument I wanted to
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    learn I finally have learned it recently
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    so yeah so I have guitar piano um and I
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    haven't played violin and Cho in a while
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    but um so from a very young age I just
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    was like loved music I sang in a gospel
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    choir in high school um you know and you
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    know as a at a young age I I aspired to
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    be an artist like a lot of young folks
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    and um at that time it was a long time
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    ago was before social media was a big
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    thing um my space came out a few years
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    after I was starting to try to be in the
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    music space and I was I grew up in
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    Newport Massachusetts and I had moved to
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    Boston and I was studying at a tiny
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    little music school called The Voice
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    studio and I had a producer and you know
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    kind of a shady guy in the business not
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    the best experience but an experience um
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    and he he was working with guys like
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    Denny Diaz from stey d and Denny was
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    interested in my songs and cutting them
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    on artist and Dinky Dawson who was a
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    road warrior with Fleetwood Mac and the
  • 00:03:06
    birds back in the day and he was a sound
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    engineer for live sound and so they you
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    know he was in the studio with my old
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    producer and you know they were helping
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    me figure out who I was as an artist and
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    I never could figure that out so in my
  • 00:03:18
    early 20s I was really like banging my
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    head against the wall for a long time
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    and just trying to figure out where you
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    know what's my sound what should I do
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    and then I heard about Belmont
  • 00:03:26
    University down here in Nashville and so
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    I got in there and I was older when I
  • 00:03:30
    got into the into Belmont so I was like
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    the big sister at school so a lot of my
  • 00:03:35
    classmates would ask me to help them
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    manage their projects um or or an album
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    release or help them set up a show and
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    so I really and I I had office
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    experience cuz I had a day job I had to
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    pay the bills so I was working as
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    working as a bookkeeper and going to
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    open mic nights and you know saving as
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    much money as I could for music lessons
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    and studio time and just doing what I
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    could and so um you know I finished um I
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    finished my undergrad in music business
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    at Belmont and when I was a senior there
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    by that time I was married with a
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    one-year-old and so I was graduating I
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    had started my first company which was
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    called cooking up music um music
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    publishing and artist management and so
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    I ran that for three years and I had a
  • 00:04:23
    number of great talented artists I got
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    to work with like Big Vinnie and Emily
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    Reed and Simone simonon and they were
  • 00:04:30
    all doing really great things on their
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    own and I was just trying to help
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    Elevate that and Pitch songs and at the
  • 00:04:36
    time I was pitching to artist country
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    artist on the row um and Rich Redmond
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    who plays for Jason Aldine who he was a
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    friend of mine through my friend Cindy
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    Kaza and he was like you know when you
  • 00:04:47
    start your company you can pitch songs
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    to me and he was one of the first people
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    that gave me kind of that in indoor to
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    pitching to people in the business um as
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    well as a couple of other folks so there
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    were a lot of people that were super
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    supportive and helpful and you know
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    having that education at Belmont was
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    huge because you do an internship and
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    you're in the door like that I had every
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    internship I did they were like
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    internship is the way in really I mean
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    if you're going to be on the business
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    side you have to have that hands-on
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    experience and the only way to get it is
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    through an internship um and so I went
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    from there um and i' started my company
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    and I was also serving as um I was
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    volunteering for the asso ation of
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    independent music Publishers aim
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    Nashville which was very new at the time
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    here in Nashville so they had branches
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    in New York and la and so I got to help
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    be a part of setting up aim when it got
  • 00:05:41
    started here um and the woman was who
  • 00:05:44
    was the executive administrator left and
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    she's like you need to take my position
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    and so I added that on to what I was
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    doing at my
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    company and so I was sitting at the
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    board in the boardroom at the table with
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    all the major IND Publishers in
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    Nashville and helping facilitate put on
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    part I was putting on parties basically
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    I was putting on hosting panels um and
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    hosting events um for the publishing
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    music publishing world and the um the
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    executive of that board was um Kevin
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    lamb and he was the president of pure
  • 00:06:21
    music at the time and we were hosting
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    event one night we were at ASCAP
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    actually and he was like if you didn't
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    know if you didn't own your own company
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    I would hire you I have a position open
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    and um and so I was like well as a
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    matter of fact my company is kind of
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    schism I had a number of artists who
  • 00:06:40
    were going in different directions and
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    one was moving to Canada one was not
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    sure if she wanted to do the writing
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    thing anymore she wanted to get back on
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    the road and drum and I was like I get
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    it you know like everybody was kind of
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    going in the different direction and so
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    it was really perfect timing when Pier
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    music came along
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    and so I ended up I was able to bring
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    some of my artist with me and so I
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    closed down shop with with my company
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    and I said listen guys I'm going to Pi
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    music um and so they hired me at the
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    time I was creative manager in the syn
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    ad department and so that was back in
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    2013 um so by this time now I had
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    started to get into the sync world when
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    I was running my company um had one
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    particular artist I managed Emily Reed
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    who's really talented she's still out
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    there crushing it and doing her own
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    thing and she's amazing go look her up
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    um but she and I I was managing her um
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    helping her with her first project which
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    was more an indie ult kind of folk thing
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    and it was perfect for the sink space
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    and so um I had actually invested about
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    $5,000 of my own money to host a
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    showcase at the Nashville Film Festival
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    okay and I had her and then I had three
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    other bands playing um I think I I can't
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    remember what venue we were at down town
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    I don't think the venue is here anymore
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    but great venue um I had a bunch of
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    sponsors I had Whole Food sponsoring and
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    so they put the food spread out and I
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    had other people sponsoring to be a part
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    of it and she blew away the music
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    supervisors who were there and one in
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    particular um Steph Vincent who is the
  • 00:08:27
    head of music for Disney came up to me
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    and he said I love Emily would she like
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    to write for Disney and it was one of
  • 00:08:36
    those moments where I was like oh my God
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    everything just changed what this is my
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    break it moment this is it I'm like this
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    is it and it it was like yeah like this
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    was like that moment and I brought Emily
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    over and I was like this is Stephen she
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    didn't know what was going on I'm like
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    Stephen want is interested in you
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    writing some music for Disney and she
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    was just like what like what's happening
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    like oh my gosh okay and I at the moment
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    I told him I said we're going to be in
  • 00:09:03
    La I'd love to come stop by we didn't
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    have a trip plann for La was just like
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    I'm going to make a trip um so I said
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    when we're in La we should come stop by
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    and so we did we I Emily and I like
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    booked a ticket almost immediately and
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    had a couple of her band mates come to
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    LA and we went to the Disney offices
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    which was amazing and she sang a few
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    songs in the conference room and he's
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    like yeah of course you're great like I
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    said you know i' like to to write for
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    Disney and so she ended up writing with
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    one of his writers and that particular
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    song She Wrote is called two in a
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    million and it took a couple years to
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    place but it was in the season finale
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    for Austin and Ally so it ended up
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    Landing it just took a while but it was
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    still like wow this was such a huge
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    opportunity 100% um at the time the the
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    timing was interesting so it was leading
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    up to when she was getting ready to move
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    to Canada and I was like I I can't
  • 00:10:03
    manage you from Canada like I live here
  • 00:10:05
    in Nashville I don't know that market
  • 00:10:07
    like I it might be best if you we go in
  • 00:10:10
    a different direction and it was a
  • 00:10:12
    really hard decision because we just had
  • 00:10:14
    this thing happen but it was one of
  • 00:10:16
    those things that like it's sit and
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    weight too so you have to just like okay
  • 00:10:20
    well where do I place my energy and
  • 00:10:22
    what's going to help both of us right
  • 00:10:24
    now and so we shifted our relationship
  • 00:10:27
    to where I was repping her at Pier for a
  • 00:10:29
    period of time okay and so I had and so
  • 00:10:32
    that that thing happened with stevenh
  • 00:10:34
    and then I went right to Pier so you
  • 00:10:37
    know everything happens for a reason you
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    know like if I had stayed I wouldn't
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    have learned everything I learned at
  • 00:10:42
    Pier um so yeah so I went on to here and
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    um and then I started Landing a bunch of
  • 00:10:49
    I landed stuff on my own um but then I
  • 00:10:51
    was supporting my boss there is Craig
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    Courier and Craig's been doing this for
  • 00:10:56
    30 years he's been in the sink bit he's
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    the OG
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    of s advertising like I'm just like I
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    learned everything I know from him truly
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    like everything I'm able to do today is
  • 00:11:08
    because of him and the experience that I
  • 00:11:10
    had at perer music like um being on the
  • 00:11:13
    sync team perer music's a global
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    independent music
  • 00:11:17
    publisher they're they've been around
  • 00:11:20
    for almost a 100 years now they have 36
  • 00:11:22
    offices worldwide they have millions of
  • 00:11:24
    copyrights just
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    amazing um and while I was there I got
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    to um oversee the sink rep program and
  • 00:11:33
    we had about worldwide we had about 200
  • 00:11:36
    something artist on that Pro in that
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    program okay and the idea was to sign
  • 00:11:42
    them to a SN representation deal and
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    then push them into a publishing deal
  • 00:11:46
    once they were Landing placements and we
  • 00:11:48
    had a number of artists that we did that
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    with Craig initially did that with a B
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    with a band called family of the year
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    and they landed their song Hero on in a
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    the movie um Boyhood which was huge um
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    and so yeah so I got to be a part of
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    working with some wildly Talent some of
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    the most successful think people in the
  • 00:12:11
    business um you know some of the names
  • 00:12:13
    that you hear regularly I got to be
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    behind the scenes and working with them
  • 00:12:18
    so just learning so much in that time
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    and um and so while I was there kind of
  • 00:12:25
    like at the end like the last couple
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    years cuz I was there for 10 years MH
  • 00:12:29
    almost 10 years like nine years and
  • 00:12:30
    eight months or something um and a
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    couple of my one of my writers started
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    pulling me out of the writer closet
  • 00:12:38
    Jasmine Ash and she was like you need to
  • 00:12:40
    write again you need to sing again like
  • 00:12:43
    don't put this away anymore cuz the
  • 00:12:45
    advice I was given back when I started
  • 00:12:46
    my first business was if you're on the
  • 00:12:48
    business side you're not a musician
  • 00:12:50
    anymore put that away you don't talk
  • 00:12:52
    about it you don't tell anybody like you
  • 00:12:54
    just and really like at the time I
  • 00:12:56
    didn't have much to speak for I was like
  • 00:12:58
    well there's nothing anyway so yeah I'm
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    fine with that like I didn't I had never
  • 00:13:01
    figured my sound out back then so there
  • 00:13:03
    was nothing to really hold on to
  • 00:13:06
    honestly um and so at the time when that
  • 00:13:09
    happened Jasmine and I started writing
  • 00:13:11
    together there was something Welling
  • 00:13:13
    inside that was there and I had tons of
  • 00:13:16
    songs that I was like writing and
  • 00:13:18
    Melodies I was coming up with and she
  • 00:13:21
    helped me kind of hone it in a bit and
  • 00:13:22
    just like okay well what you know let's
  • 00:13:24
    package it like this yeah um and then
  • 00:13:27
    the pandemic hit mhm and in the world
  • 00:13:30
    fell apart and then um I have um I have
  • 00:13:35
    degenera dis disease in my spine and
  • 00:13:37
    stenosis and I've dealt with chronic um
  • 00:13:40
    physical pain back pain for about 15
  • 00:13:42
    years so most of my career I've dealt
  • 00:13:44
    with physical pain and battling against
  • 00:13:47
    that and so it's limited me right and so
  • 00:13:51
    I you know peer was there for me in that
  • 00:13:54
    time where I had a really great position
  • 00:13:57
    in the industry it made it easy for me
  • 00:13:59
    to go home at night to be with my family
  • 00:14:00
    and my kids my husband um it made it
  • 00:14:04
    easy for me to take care of myself
  • 00:14:05
    physically as far as like you know
  • 00:14:07
    dealing with things that would happen um
  • 00:14:11
    you know cuz I had three surgeries and
  • 00:14:14
    so the last one I had was just after
  • 00:14:16
    covid maybe a year after Co I had my L4
  • 00:14:19
    and L5 completely
  • 00:14:21
    ruptured and um I was in a wheelchair
  • 00:14:24
    for 2 months I was bedridden for two
  • 00:14:26
    months almost 3 months I couldn't walk
  • 00:14:29
    so painful and I had my L4 and L5
  • 00:14:33
    completely replaced I had um artificial
  • 00:14:35
    disc replacement which is pioneering
  • 00:14:37
    surgery um Dr Blumenthal was my doctor
  • 00:14:40
    in Texas I have to give him a shout out
  • 00:14:41
    because he transformed my life truly
  • 00:14:43
    like the pain that I was in was so
  • 00:14:46
    debilitating and then when I wasn't in
  • 00:14:48
    that pain anymore it was like the
  • 00:14:49
    floodgates were freaking open and I was
  • 00:14:52
    like watch out he to Bar the door I
  • 00:14:54
    couldn't stop writing I couldn't like oh
  • 00:14:56
    my God I got to do more like I had so
  • 00:14:58
    much energy threshold is just so much
  • 00:14:59
    higher it just went like through the
  • 00:15:01
    roof and so um I wrote over 100 songs a
  • 00:15:05
    bunch of them I still need to record
  • 00:15:07
    like there's their ideas are ready to go
  • 00:15:09
    and finish others have been recorded and
  • 00:15:11
    released others have been recorded by me
  • 00:15:13
    for my project um so I have my my artist
  • 00:15:16
    project is Brewster be I'm a rock artist
  • 00:15:19
    I'm like a female Imagine Dragons and um
  • 00:15:23
    I love your stff on Spotify oh thank
  • 00:15:25
    you thank you um so yeah so
  • 00:15:29
    um you know when that happened where I
  • 00:15:32
    was at Pier and like wanting to write
  • 00:15:34
    again that wasn't my purpose at Pier and
  • 00:15:36
    that that space wasn't meant for me to
  • 00:15:38
    to thrive in that way and so I needed to
  • 00:15:40
    move on to be able to to experience that
  • 00:15:42
    and I was there for 10 years that's like
  • 00:15:44
    a that's like a good chunk of your life
  • 00:15:46
    huge part of my life I did my I did my
  • 00:15:48
    thing I did my thing um and then I went
  • 00:15:51
    on to a company called um Eternal music
  • 00:15:53
    group um run by three trailer music
  • 00:15:56
    supervisors who I love more Deval
  • 00:15:57
    Griffin Todrick balang and N sha shout
  • 00:16:00
    out shout out oh shout out shout out I
  • 00:16:02
    love them I love them they they're some
  • 00:16:04
    they were the most talented trailer
  • 00:16:06
    producers in the business and um you
  • 00:16:09
    know and their their model was U music
  • 00:16:11
    library which is really different it's a
  • 00:16:14
    different um kind of business philosophy
  • 00:16:17
    um and so they needed me to help with
  • 00:16:20
    producing albums for um their Library
  • 00:16:23
    which I got to do which was fun because
  • 00:16:25
    I get to now I get to strut my stuff as
  • 00:16:27
    an executive producer toally I just got
  • 00:16:29
    my certificate music production from
  • 00:16:31
    Berkeley I'm like all right I'm going to
  • 00:16:33
    strut what I've learned test things out
  • 00:16:35
    here and so I had five albums I finished
  • 00:16:38
    I had another four in the can that were
  • 00:16:40
    going to be finished by the time I left
  • 00:16:41
    I spent a year there and again it was a
  • 00:16:43
    great experience the coolest thing with
  • 00:16:45
    them was when I interviewed with them I
  • 00:16:46
    was like Hey I want to do my music again
  • 00:16:49
    and like I want to produce and write and
  • 00:16:50
    they were like go for it we'll help you
  • 00:16:52
    release it like I I I say like pure
  • 00:16:56
    music were my teachers Eternal music
  • 00:16:58
    were my I and they both gave me those
  • 00:17:00
    wings to fly to do it what I'm doing now
  • 00:17:03
    they I needed both of them I needed all
  • 00:17:05
    of the experience I had with them to
  • 00:17:08
    help me get to this place today and I
  • 00:17:09
    just like oh such gratitude to both um
  • 00:17:12
    both of those experiences so um so yeah
  • 00:17:16
    again it was like time to go time to fly
  • 00:17:18
    and I had artists asking me to rep them
  • 00:17:20
    and I have for years like I mean even
  • 00:17:23
    when I was at Pier people were like can
  • 00:17:24
    you just sink rep me I'm like well I
  • 00:17:26
    work for pier you I can rep you at Pier
  • 00:17:28
    right um and at Eternal you know write
  • 00:17:31
    you know signing them to writer deals
  • 00:17:33
    there and so it made sense for me to go
  • 00:17:36
    out when I did you know that kind of
  • 00:17:38
    writing was on the wall and you know so
  • 00:17:41
    by this time I had released my now I
  • 00:17:42
    released My First Single Supernatural
  • 00:17:45
    and recorded that with this incredible
  • 00:17:47
    producer ellia X um she's awesome she's
  • 00:17:51
    amazing you guys got to check her out
  • 00:17:53
    like oh she was the first person I went
  • 00:17:56
    to cuz I've worked with a lot of
  • 00:17:57
    producers and I've been like I'm trying
  • 00:17:59
    to figure out my sound right and she was
  • 00:18:01
    like you're a rock artist she's like I
  • 00:18:02
    have a track for you I'm like oh my God
  • 00:18:05
    what did I think about this like I've
  • 00:18:07
    never considered that yeah and um where
  • 00:18:10
    were you leaning before like what were
  • 00:18:12
    the options for you I was like singer
  • 00:18:14
    songwriter folk thing interesting cuz
  • 00:18:16
    I'm like well I guess I could do that I
  • 00:18:18
    have a really gritty you can hear it in
  • 00:18:19
    the way I talk too I kind of a gritty
  • 00:18:21
    hired T kind of like it makes sense for
  • 00:18:24
    rock voice it makes sense for rock yeah
  • 00:18:27
    and so that track was fire I was just
  • 00:18:30
    like this is awesome um and it was the
  • 00:18:33
    so the first time we met we went I went
  • 00:18:34
    in the studio with her and she had the
  • 00:18:37
    track I recorded the hook and I was like
  • 00:18:38
    I have a hip-hop artist I know that I
  • 00:18:40
    want to get on this it would be amazing
  • 00:18:42
    Jalissa MH julisa again another artist
  • 00:18:47
    writer producer like she's rapper
  • 00:18:50
    killing it and she's like built her
  • 00:18:53
    social media up she has like 150,000 SP
  • 00:18:56
    Instagram followers so she's so good at
  • 00:18:58
    social media she's so good at it so good
  • 00:19:00
    yeah our Indie artist go follow julisa
  • 00:19:02
    to see what she's doing cuz she's really
  • 00:19:04
    good at what she does but we we came up
  • 00:19:06
    we had this song and I'm like whoa and
  • 00:19:08
    then I had um I had put it into I sent
  • 00:19:13
    it to a music supervisor for sports
  • 00:19:18
    specifically and he's a music supervisor
  • 00:19:19
    for sports but also music marketer and
  • 00:19:22
    so you're hiring him on retainer and his
  • 00:19:24
    name is John Adams he's at the score um
  • 00:19:26
    he's a huge hug huge supporter of my
  • 00:19:29
    music and me as an artist and when I
  • 00:19:32
    sent him this song he was like oh my God
  • 00:19:34
    this is so good so that's so nice um so
  • 00:19:37
    my first and my second single my second
  • 00:19:39
    single is heading for the top which I
  • 00:19:41
    wrote co-wrote with producer FEMA so it
  • 00:19:45
    was really important to me to find women
  • 00:19:47
    producers I want to work with as many
  • 00:19:49
    women producers as I can totally it's a
  • 00:19:51
    different vibe also working with other
  • 00:19:53
    women it really is and just having that
  • 00:19:56
    right communication that we like get
  • 00:19:58
    each other in a way that is authentic
  • 00:20:01
    and very real and comfortable and safe
  • 00:20:05
    safe F help me with heading for the top
  • 00:20:08
    and those two singles my first two
  • 00:20:10
    singles have thousands of streams now
  • 00:20:12
    they've been playlisted 130 times
  • 00:20:14
    they're playing in 20 Sports Arenas
  • 00:20:17
    congrats they um athletes unlimited was
  • 00:20:20
    was you licensed it in their entire
  • 00:20:23
    basketball season they made it their
  • 00:20:25
    they use it in all their promos it was
  • 00:20:27
    their song of the season um Orlando
  • 00:20:30
    Pride women's pro soccer team is
  • 00:20:31
    licensed it I have other folks
  • 00:20:33
    interested so I have two songs out and
  • 00:20:36
    I've already done all of this I'm like
  • 00:20:38
    why didn't I do this sooner you should
  • 00:20:39
    have yeah the timings everything it was
  • 00:20:41
    the right time to do it and so my next
  • 00:20:46
    single is coming out at the end of this
  • 00:20:48
    month on the 30th um future is here cool
  • 00:20:53
    Co is what that's called and that one I
  • 00:20:55
    produ I co-wrote it and it was produced
  • 00:20:57
    by Steve Vince Steve Vito excuse me I
  • 00:21:00
    love St steveo is so another talented
  • 00:21:02
    guy I just got to hang out with him in
  • 00:21:04
    Connecticut when I was driving through
  • 00:21:06
    so now I've got like all my music going
  • 00:21:09
    and my company's Freedom music I started
  • 00:21:12
    in December yeah and so I've just been
  • 00:21:16
    going like Gang Busters and it was funny
  • 00:21:19
    like when I got started I'm like gosh I
  • 00:21:20
    wonder if people will sign with me like
  • 00:21:22
    hope it's going to be okay like I hope
  • 00:21:23
    it people are so stoked to work with you
  • 00:21:26
    what are you talking about I know
  • 00:21:29
    is that buil in like I'm not good enough
  • 00:21:32
    I don't know if I know what I'm doing
  • 00:21:35
    like it's so human and it's so much a
  • 00:21:37
    part of for creatives like we're so hard
  • 00:21:40
    on ourselves yeah yeah and so um I have
  • 00:21:44
    signed over a hundred writers and
  • 00:21:45
    producers and artists um I have a number
  • 00:21:49
    of um Publishers and labels I work with
  • 00:21:52
    a handful um run sound music publishing
  • 00:21:55
    which is really a cool situation so I
  • 00:21:58
    was um interning for Run song When I was
  • 00:22:00
    a student at Belmont oh okay years and
  • 00:22:04
    years ago full circle moments full
  • 00:22:06
    circle yeah and so I also now um I did a
  • 00:22:10
    camp with them a few months ago and rire
  • 00:22:13
    who runs that company amazing woman in
  • 00:22:15
    the industry here in Nashville she's one
  • 00:22:17
    of the best Publishers in town in my
  • 00:22:19
    opinion because she's just such a song
  • 00:22:21
    person um and she's the head of she's
  • 00:22:24
    the president of aim she's on the board
  • 00:22:27
    for ASCAP
  • 00:22:28
    um and so I did a camp for them and um I
  • 00:22:32
    was sharing some of my songs like I was
  • 00:22:34
    like yeah I'm writing again here you
  • 00:22:36
    know very transparent and telling people
  • 00:22:38
    and she said well I just need you to
  • 00:22:39
    write with all of my artists on my
  • 00:22:41
    artists on our roster I was like
  • 00:22:44
    what is this real okay so that yeah so
  • 00:22:49
    I've been writing so aside from my own
  • 00:22:51
    project I write with a number of other
  • 00:22:53
    artists so Michaela Lynn who's one of
  • 00:22:55
    the renung artists Charles eston who is
  • 00:22:59
    who is also an actor he's a wildly
  • 00:23:01
    talented country artist singer song
  • 00:23:03
    writer um he was in the TV show
  • 00:23:05
    Nashville Deacon he was the he was that
  • 00:23:08
    character he was also in that show um
  • 00:23:10
    Whose Line Is It Anyways um and he's a
  • 00:23:13
    lead character in Outer Banks which is a
  • 00:23:16
    hit show on Netflix right now wow so
  • 00:23:19
    yeah so I got to write a song with him
  • 00:23:21
    the other day and I was just like
  • 00:23:22
    freaking pinch me like what is happening
  • 00:23:24
    right now I can't even believe what's
  • 00:23:26
    going on that's so fun so yeah so it's
  • 00:23:29
    been super fun um and just continuing to
  • 00:23:32
    build and grow and um you know we just
  • 00:23:35
    had our St Camp last week which you got
  • 00:23:37
    to come to which was so much fun amazing
  • 00:23:39
    I've never worked so hard and so
  • 00:23:42
    quickly like the bar is set now at a new
  • 00:23:44
    level good see that's what I wanted I
  • 00:23:48
    wanted one first I wanted to make sure
  • 00:23:50
    that like in that I'm providing as much
  • 00:23:53
    information that can arm you with the
  • 00:23:55
    tools to help you be better and write
  • 00:23:57
    better cuz we can always we're always
  • 00:23:59
    growing and we're always getting better
  • 00:24:01
    um and then I wanted to have some really
  • 00:24:04
    interesting collaborations that you
  • 00:24:06
    wouldn't have thought of normally but
  • 00:24:07
    maybe just like okay let's see how this
  • 00:24:09
    goes and so that was great to see that
  • 00:24:12
    happen and then the connection and
  • 00:24:14
    collaboration and like I am just a
  • 00:24:16
    believer and like it's not about making
  • 00:24:18
    connections it's about being a connector
  • 00:24:20
    it's being a conduit to like helping
  • 00:24:22
    people connect and make and create
  • 00:24:24
    something or Inspire something or make
  • 00:24:27
    something happen and not expect
  • 00:24:28
    something from that just make that
  • 00:24:30
    connection totally and the roster is
  • 00:24:32
    really cool maybe it's because of the
  • 00:24:34
    kind of person you are but like every
  • 00:24:36
    single person was so friendly like I
  • 00:24:37
    enjoyed the Hang as much as I did making
  • 00:24:40
    the music that's so important cuz I'm a
  • 00:24:43
    big believer too like I just I want to
  • 00:24:45
    work with people I love that I enjoy
  • 00:24:48
    working with who are easy to work with
  • 00:24:51
    um because in this business in sync
  • 00:24:53
    world in in general but like in the
  • 00:24:55
    music industry and in any business you
  • 00:24:58
    want to work with people who are um easy
  • 00:25:02
    to work with in terms of you know if
  • 00:25:05
    something gets difficult it's not an
  • 00:25:08
    argument it's a conversation yes um
  • 00:25:11
    you're on the same team you're on the
  • 00:25:12
    same team we're all working together
  • 00:25:14
    nobody's competing against each other
  • 00:25:17
    you know I have artists that I write
  • 00:25:18
    with or they write with me for my
  • 00:25:20
    project and there's no battle there's no
  • 00:25:23
    competition it's just like we're here
  • 00:25:26
    here to be creative and help each other
  • 00:25:28
    and you know um that's awesome I love I
  • 00:25:32
    love that and so I come from that place
  • 00:25:35
    and then I think we just attract what we
  • 00:25:38
    want I know you work with a broad range
  • 00:25:39
    of genres yes and you in your own
  • 00:25:43
    personal music do like rock alt Rock a
  • 00:25:45
    little poppy little poppy but what would
  • 00:25:49
    you say like your favorite genres are
  • 00:25:53
    and do you think there are certain
  • 00:25:56
    genres that are more sellable than
  • 00:25:58
    others
  • 00:25:59
    oh interesting okay um I like um I like
  • 00:26:02
    Soul music a lot I love Motown Diana
  • 00:26:04
    Ross and I love like sister at a Tharp
  • 00:26:07
    like older music I love I love a lot of
  • 00:26:11
    genres but um like I love classical for
  • 00:26:14
    his own purpose and meaning and when I'm
  • 00:26:16
    feeling in that mood um and because I
  • 00:26:19
    used to love playing classical music
  • 00:26:21
    right the orchestal background yes yeah
  • 00:26:24
    um I me I mean in growing in growing up
  • 00:26:26
    I listen to a wide range of genres I was
  • 00:26:28
    listening to B Midler when I was a girl
  • 00:26:30
    um and then I was listening to Method
  • 00:26:32
    Man and you know wuen Clan and The Roots
  • 00:26:36
    and um Lauren Hill's Miss educational
  • 00:26:40
    Lauren Hill album was like like
  • 00:26:42
    mindblowing to me when I first heard
  • 00:26:45
    when it came out and broad range huge
  • 00:26:48
    range yeah like all over the map and
  • 00:26:50
    then
  • 00:26:52
    um and then you know I mean the so the
  • 00:26:55
    music that works best for sink there's
  • 00:26:57
    three main genres that are the most
  • 00:27:00
    popular um rock pop and Hip Hop okay and
  • 00:27:03
    those three are also the top of the
  • 00:27:06
    charts so those are two three of the
  • 00:27:09
    most popular at the top of the charts so
  • 00:27:11
    an interesting thing is that country
  • 00:27:13
    music is actually a really popular genre
  • 00:27:16
    right but it's one that's misunderstood
  • 00:27:18
    by advertising and um it's one that is
  • 00:27:22
    hard to place because they're they're
  • 00:27:26
    such great lyricist in the country
  • 00:27:29
    market and they tell the story in such a
  • 00:27:32
    meaningful Deep Way um that it Paints
  • 00:27:36
    the story that can conflict with a scene
  • 00:27:39
    it's too specific it's too
  • 00:27:41
    specific um and that's partly where at
  • 00:27:44
    renang been writing with the the writers
  • 00:27:46
    there to help paint them a little bit
  • 00:27:49
    over here to the SN space like speaking
  • 00:27:51
    your authentic voice but painted over
  • 00:27:54
    this way a little bit um so it can fit
  • 00:27:57
    in my world MH um so yeah I mean you
  • 00:28:02
    know I did I did um for my master thesis
  • 00:28:06
    for Berkeley I did a big I built a
  • 00:28:09
    database and I basically researched all
  • 00:28:11
    these ads and what I found was those
  • 00:28:13
    were the main genres that were the most
  • 00:28:15
    popular and then there's little
  • 00:28:17
    ancillary ones um and what's happening
  • 00:28:19
    now too and this is again driven by the
  • 00:28:23
    the charts and what people are really
  • 00:28:24
    listening to Latin music is getting in I
  • 00:28:27
    heard that yeah a big way and that's
  • 00:28:30
    which I love I think that's incredible
  • 00:28:33
    it's so fun it's such fun music it is
  • 00:28:35
    such fun music such fun music but again
  • 00:28:37
    it's another space that's misunderstood
  • 00:28:39
    cuz Ad Agency is like or music
  • 00:28:41
    supervisor is that space not so much the
  • 00:28:42
    music supervisor music supervisors are
  • 00:28:44
    more um they understand the nuances it's
  • 00:28:47
    their clients that don't always
  • 00:28:48
    understand the nuances so in Latin music
  • 00:28:50
    they'll just say I just want a a Latin
  • 00:28:52
    song okay what specifically do you mean
  • 00:28:55
    do you need something Flamingo do you
  • 00:28:57
    need something that's Mexican Regional
  • 00:29:00
    like what does that mean and every bit
  • 00:29:03
    of Latin music is different depending on
  • 00:29:04
    the region and I am not a specialist in
  • 00:29:05
    that area there are people who
  • 00:29:07
    specialize in that and really know so
  • 00:29:09
    yeah how would an artist go about
  • 00:29:12
    wanting to work with you now at
  • 00:29:14
    Freedom now I'm like my roster's full I
  • 00:29:18
    can't do
  • 00:29:19
    anymore um so we actually my so I do
  • 00:29:24
    want to talk about my team a little bit
  • 00:29:25
    too and tell because like that is a huge
  • 00:29:27
    part of how I'm even able to build my
  • 00:29:28
    roster the way I have course um but PE
  • 00:29:32
    folks do reach out to me either on
  • 00:29:33
    social media or LinkedIn or they just
  • 00:29:35
    send me an email direct and it's Heather
  • 00:29:38
    at freedom musicgr
  • 00:29:40
    group.co umco not.com and um and so if
  • 00:29:46
    people send music I just say please
  • 00:29:48
    don't send me more than three songs
  • 00:29:50
    please sending in a stream streaming
  • 00:29:52
    link preferably
  • 00:29:55
    disco.ac um make sure you have
  • 00:29:58
    instrumentals and your metad dat is
  • 00:30:00
    cleaned up and you've got pictures in
  • 00:30:01
    there and all the things and um and let
  • 00:30:04
    me know a little bit about you like a
  • 00:30:06
    little tiny bio um and tell me that you
  • 00:30:09
    heard me on this podcast specifically
  • 00:30:12
    but because if it's somebody that you
  • 00:30:14
    know I'm more opt to listen rather than
  • 00:30:16
    somebody I have no idea who they are um
  • 00:30:19
    although I'm always listening I always
  • 00:30:21
    so yeah I have uh Jason Lee is a
  • 00:30:24
    director of syn creative and film and TV
  • 00:30:27
    but he does all media and he's based in
  • 00:30:29
    Los Angeles and Jason and I have
  • 00:30:31
    actually worked together for over 10
  • 00:30:32
    years so we worked together for8 years
  • 00:30:34
    at P music we worked together for a year
  • 00:30:36
    at Eternal and then both we were both at
  • 00:30:39
    each company and I was like and then he
  • 00:30:41
    had left so whenever the strikes were
  • 00:30:43
    happening film and TV just like went
  • 00:30:45
    away so they had to like close that
  • 00:30:47
    department right and then he was off
  • 00:30:49
    doing his thing and I was like come hang
  • 00:30:50
    out with me at Freedom so he's crushing
  • 00:30:53
    it he's landed so many placements and
  • 00:30:56
    he's BL he's brought in some really cool
  • 00:30:59
    artists in catalog um Mr Big from
  • 00:31:03
    the80s um he brought that deal in which
  • 00:31:06
    is amazing um so he's a huge part of
  • 00:31:10
    helping Freedom grow as fast as we've
  • 00:31:12
    grown a big big part of that um I just
  • 00:31:15
    brought on lenie shorer she is in Paris
  • 00:31:20
    she speaks three languages and she was
  • 00:31:22
    my intern at pure music years ago okay
  • 00:31:25
    and then we just she always stayed in
  • 00:31:26
    touch with me and that was I always tell
  • 00:31:28
    I always have interns I always do like
  • 00:31:31
    one because I love to teach and I love
  • 00:31:33
    to pass on to others like I like to the
  • 00:31:36
    ob service and help others right and um
  • 00:31:39
    and I always tell my interns stay in
  • 00:31:41
    touch like you know let me know how
  • 00:31:43
    you're doing and so she always stayed in
  • 00:31:46
    touch and then she got her ma she
  • 00:31:48
    finished her degree at Berkeley as well
  • 00:31:50
    and then she started her own sync thing
  • 00:31:52
    in um Valencia Spain at first okay and
  • 00:31:55
    she has a relationship with supervisors
  • 00:31:57
    there and literally the first week she
  • 00:31:59
    started working with us yeah she's like
  • 00:32:01
    I have three meetings with music
  • 00:32:02
    supervisors this week first week hitting
  • 00:32:05
    the ground running so yeah that's
  • 00:32:08
    exciting and I have other folks I have
  • 00:32:10
    other people that are asking if they can
  • 00:32:11
    help in different regions of the world
  • 00:32:13
    to to pitch the freedom catalog because
  • 00:32:15
    we've grown so much and so the other the
  • 00:32:17
    other parts of the catalog we have are
  • 00:32:19
    music and media is a company I represent
  • 00:32:22
    and um they have a number of cataloges
  • 00:32:27
    they have a number catalog and songs
  • 00:32:28
    they've been acquiring so they have a
  • 00:32:30
    fund that they've been able to acquire
  • 00:32:31
    older cataloges so we have songs like
  • 00:32:33
    Werewolves of London Mambo taliano
  • 00:32:36
    people by bra Bara Strand and the entire
  • 00:32:38
    funny girl album which is an incredible
  • 00:32:40
    album of music and um people in don't
  • 00:32:43
    ran on My Parade or two songs I'm trying
  • 00:32:45
    to land in something really big so
  • 00:32:47
    Brands if you're listening right now
  • 00:32:48
    like hint
  • 00:32:50
    hint so yeah so the roster is quite big
  • 00:32:53
    and I I really pride myself on having
  • 00:32:56
    this like I want to be able to sit with
  • 00:32:58
    you guys and have a conversation and
  • 00:33:00
    stay updated um I have a lot of folks
  • 00:33:03
    who in that number I mentioned they're
  • 00:33:05
    they're like on call and they have
  • 00:33:07
    others who are my top tier and are like
  • 00:33:09
    all right these are the folks that are
  • 00:33:11
    that you're investing dayto day they
  • 00:33:13
    have a lot more going on some people
  • 00:33:15
    only have a couple songs they've given
  • 00:33:16
    me so that's easy to manage like okay
  • 00:33:18
    great I'll pitch these for you see what
  • 00:33:20
    will happen and then others who are
  • 00:33:21
    creating every day um you know so I have
  • 00:33:24
    I have one artist I manage Tabatha Meeks
  • 00:33:28
    who's amazing um she's like a Nashville
  • 00:33:30
    nor Jones classically trained pist she's
  • 00:33:33
    got Jazz experience super talented um
  • 00:33:36
    she just released a summer EP she's got
  • 00:33:39
    a fall um EP coming out she's got a
  • 00:33:42
    Christmas EP coming out in an album
  • 00:33:44
    coming out the first of 2025 so like
  • 00:33:46
    she's prolific wow and she's been
  • 00:33:50
    Landing placements so she's got CSI
  • 00:33:52
    Miami she's got Hallmark spot she's got
  • 00:33:56
    like all you know um all these different
  • 00:33:59
    TV shows and just continuing to grow so
  • 00:34:02
    she's the only artist I'm I'm not taking
  • 00:34:04
    on any more management she's the only
  • 00:34:06
    one I'm managing um and if I do manage
  • 00:34:09
    anyone else it it's going to be within
  • 00:34:10
    who I already have been working with for
  • 00:34:12
    years um there's a couple people who'
  • 00:34:15
    have asked me and I'm like not just yet
  • 00:34:17
    maybe it's it's a lot of work it's a lot
  • 00:34:20
    it is and it's the you know you really
  • 00:34:23
    put all of your energy into helping if
  • 00:34:29
    it's an artist and a writer for sync
  • 00:34:31
    you're you know I'm not just taking the
  • 00:34:33
    songs and just pitching them I'm giving
  • 00:34:35
    them mixed notes on their songs I'm
  • 00:34:36
    going through every track I'm making
  • 00:34:38
    sure every track that comes in is is
  • 00:34:40
    pitch and something that we want to know
  • 00:34:43
    or have a good feeling could license I'm
  • 00:34:46
    going to guide them as far as like some
  • 00:34:48
    of the details of who they are as an
  • 00:34:50
    artist and how to build that out a bit
  • 00:34:51
    you know in a way like and I had this
  • 00:34:53
    when I was at Pier with the rep program
  • 00:34:55
    I was like a I was like not a manager
  • 00:34:58
    per se but I did things managers would
  • 00:35:00
    do to guide and help an artist so
  • 00:35:02
    there's a lot of energy that goes into
  • 00:35:04
    that as you know like we've talked about
  • 00:35:05
    stuff yeah it is timec consuming like to
  • 00:35:08
    do that for a whole bunch of people and
  • 00:35:09
    like run the company I can't imagine
  • 00:35:12
    balancing everything so I have to be
  • 00:35:15
    selective in who I do work with and the
  • 00:35:18
    time and energy I put in and again it
  • 00:35:21
    comes back to the people who are easiest
  • 00:35:22
    to work with who flow easy um the folks
  • 00:35:25
    that are you know have figured out the
  • 00:35:28
    the notes I've given and like run with
  • 00:35:30
    it and gone super fast some people are
  • 00:35:32
    you know work faster than others and it
  • 00:35:34
    doesn't mean they're better it just
  • 00:35:35
    means they work at a different pace um
  • 00:35:37
    and so yeah so that with that you know
  • 00:35:41
    um as we as we grow we're growing at a
  • 00:35:44
    smaller Pace cuz I feel like we're at a
  • 00:35:47
    good spot right now just for the
  • 00:35:49
    audience like what's one of your
  • 00:35:50
    favorite placements um well a recent one
  • 00:35:52
    that I was excited about was with a band
  • 00:35:55
    called don't scare the ghost and
  • 00:35:58
    and this is a good example because it
  • 00:36:01
    kind of smizes like all the things that
  • 00:36:03
    I'll do with a band and an artist um Ben
  • 00:36:06
    epand and Chris a um they had created
  • 00:36:09
    this rock band and I was at Eternal
  • 00:36:11
    music group when we did this and they
  • 00:36:13
    were trying to figure out what they were
  • 00:36:14
    going to do and I said well I would
  • 00:36:17
    encourage you guys to really come up
  • 00:36:18
    with a name come up with a look and
  • 00:36:21
    create an EP and have a a body of work
  • 00:36:24
    that we can pitch and so and this is
  • 00:36:27
    what I did at here we did this up here
  • 00:36:29
    all the time with bands and artists and
  • 00:36:31
    there was a whole strategy behind like
  • 00:36:33
    how when you release it how soon you
  • 00:36:35
    release if you release at all you know
  • 00:36:37
    all that should you wait for replacement
  • 00:36:39
    should you not and um we they released a
  • 00:36:43
    couple singles and it was it was almost
  • 00:36:46
    instant like they start they got
  • 00:36:47
    placements pretty quickly so one of our
  • 00:36:49
    team members in UK got a placement for
  • 00:36:52
    them for a French water company drink
  • 00:36:56
    bottle of water company so that was one
  • 00:36:58
    and then I landed them a Super Bowl
  • 00:37:02
    promo you know and that just came from
  • 00:37:04
    like just servicing it to our clients
  • 00:37:07
    you know and it wasn't even a direct
  • 00:37:09
    pitch it was just like here you got to
  • 00:37:10
    make sure you like play this and license
  • 00:37:12
    it kind of thing um so that was special
  • 00:37:14
    because that one was like it just showed
  • 00:37:17
    okay when you really do this in a
  • 00:37:19
    meaningful way and put that time and
  • 00:37:21
    energy into that artist and um you know
  • 00:37:25
    make great music cuz they make great
  • 00:37:27
    music music Ben Benny Pand is one of my
  • 00:37:29
    favorite producers to work with super
  • 00:37:31
    talented guy um and Chris just great
  • 00:37:34
    songwriter and singer an artist and so
  • 00:37:38
    yeah so that was a really cool one um
  • 00:37:41
    I'm trying to think of some others I
  • 00:37:43
    think I mean one of the first well I
  • 00:37:46
    guess was second or third or fourth
  • 00:37:48
    place I can never remember but when I
  • 00:37:50
    one of the first placement I had when I
  • 00:37:52
    was at Pier was with a guy named Andrew
  • 00:37:54
    simple and it was a ker spot and it was
  • 00:37:58
    like the the few first six months I was
  • 00:38:00
    there and I had gone I I can't remember
  • 00:38:04
    where I was I so I would travel the
  • 00:38:06
    country meeting with ad agencies so I
  • 00:38:08
    was Frontline marketer I see and so I
  • 00:38:10
    would go and I would host a lunch or
  • 00:38:13
    breakfast with the Ad Agency so I've got
  • 00:38:15
    to present to all the major ad agencies
  • 00:38:17
    in the United States very cool um which
  • 00:38:19
    was fun like again I'm like a people
  • 00:38:21
    person and my being an artist and being
  • 00:38:24
    comfortable on stage it helps of course
  • 00:38:26
    yeah you know so I was like put me in
  • 00:38:28
    front of people I love that place you
  • 00:38:30
    know and so um it was one of the first
  • 00:38:33
    agencies I met with and from during the
  • 00:38:37
    meeting she handed me a brief basically
  • 00:38:40
    and said here I've got this brief for K
  • 00:38:41
    jewers okay I sent her songs I pitched
  • 00:38:44
    songs for it they quoted three of the
  • 00:38:47
    songs and then landed Andrew's song and
  • 00:38:51
    that went um in the C Jeweler spot and
  • 00:38:54
    then they flew down to Nashville and
  • 00:38:56
    they interviewed him
  • 00:38:58
    um at Ocean Way Studios and like I think
  • 00:39:00
    it was Ocean Way yeah it was like
  • 00:39:02
    amazing and then he was flown down to
  • 00:39:05
    Florida for an ion Network interview in
  • 00:39:08
    between by K you know presented by K
  • 00:39:10
    Jewelers and their their um K Jewelers
  • 00:39:13
    was sponsoring this particular ion
  • 00:39:15
    Network TV show and so then he talked to
  • 00:39:18
    him in between and then it was at the
  • 00:39:20
    lighting of the Christmas tree at
  • 00:39:21
    Rockefeller Center so I felt like I
  • 00:39:23
    really knocked out of the park one of
  • 00:39:25
    the first placements I had at p
  • 00:39:28
    um I think another one too is one of my
  • 00:39:30
    favorites that I some of these are like
  • 00:39:33
    inadvertent lands like I had pitched it
  • 00:39:36
    either directly to the client or it came
  • 00:39:38
    through a playlist pitch or it came
  • 00:39:39
    through hey guys make sure you listen to
  • 00:39:41
    this we need to land this song kind of
  • 00:39:43
    thing um but I had landed Buddy Holly's
  • 00:39:47
    every day in an Ikea commercial okay I'm
  • 00:39:50
    pretty sure that was a direct pitch um
  • 00:39:52
    that I submitted and it was awesome I
  • 00:39:55
    was super excited cuz so buddy h started
  • 00:39:57
    his career at Pier music oh wow he
  • 00:40:01
    actually met his wife Marie in the
  • 00:40:02
    office in New York cuz she was a
  • 00:40:04
    secretary there yeah yeah and then um
  • 00:40:07
    I'd been working at Pier for like 5
  • 00:40:09
    years and I love to do
  • 00:40:12
    ancestry and I found out I'm related to
  • 00:40:14
    Buddy Holly he's like my seventh cousin
  • 00:40:17
    or
  • 00:40:18
    something again I'm like what is this my
  • 00:40:21
    blood music's in my
  • 00:40:24
    blood um but I just thought that was
  • 00:40:26
    really a wild
  • 00:40:27
    coincidence that I'm working at the
  • 00:40:29
    company where a cousin of mine started
  • 00:40:32
    his career but like one of the coolest
  • 00:40:35
    cousins and like he's a you know rock
  • 00:40:39
    legend and I'm and now I'm in the Rock
  • 00:40:41
    genre as an artist too and I'm like this
  • 00:40:44
    is really cool it's kind of like a
  • 00:40:46
    natural segue it was a natural segue but
  • 00:40:49
    it also gave me that like kind of you
  • 00:40:52
    know courage to be like oh I got this in
  • 00:40:55
    my blood mhm all right right I'll do it
  • 00:40:59
    so yeah a lot of cool placements what do
  • 00:41:01
    you see musicians not doing that you're
  • 00:41:03
    like damn If Only They did this in sync
  • 00:41:07
    um they they don't spend enough time
  • 00:41:10
    marketing themselves mhm and there's so
  • 00:41:13
    many ways you can do it now and now that
  • 00:41:15
    I've been able to do it myself I'm like
  • 00:41:17
    there's a lot of things you can do and
  • 00:41:19
    barely scratch I've barely scratch the
  • 00:41:21
    surface of it like submit hub's a good
  • 00:41:24
    one um you know I use I I distribute my
  • 00:41:29
    music through symphonic which I love
  • 00:41:31
    symphonic music like their their
  • 00:41:33
    platform is fantastic their background
  • 00:41:35
    and they actually landed my second
  • 00:41:37
    single on an editorial playlist for
  • 00:41:40
    Apple oh wow but knowing how to utilize
  • 00:41:43
    your team and marketing your music in a
  • 00:41:45
    meaningful like don't just release your
  • 00:41:47
    songs right like really try to spend at
  • 00:41:49
    least some money even if it's $50 like
  • 00:41:53
    you can save up a couple hundred to do
  • 00:41:57
    something and the the little like I've
  • 00:41:59
    probably in my music alone I've invested
  • 00:42:02
    about $5,000 or so okay and I'm just
  • 00:42:06
    barely scratching the surface of what I
  • 00:42:08
    could do it helps the story so I pitch
  • 00:42:12
    the Artist as much as I pitch the song
  • 00:42:14
    yeah and if there's no story if there's
  • 00:42:16
    no anything like I got nothing to tell
  • 00:42:19
    you and it doesn't mean that I won't
  • 00:42:21
    land something it just makes it harder
  • 00:42:23
    for the brand of the client to grab on
  • 00:42:26
    to see like who's this
  • 00:42:28
    artist and so like if you go to my
  • 00:42:31
    website Brewster
  • 00:42:32
    b.com you'll see all my music and you'll
  • 00:42:36
    see press that I've got you'll see my
  • 00:42:39
    story you'll see the songs I've released
  • 00:42:42
    my social media I try to stay active on
  • 00:42:45
    I need to and that's something I need to
  • 00:42:46
    do a little bit more of because I've got
  • 00:42:47
    a release coming up so I've got some
  • 00:42:49
    marketing things I'm going to do it's
  • 00:42:50
    the biggest thing like and I just see it
  • 00:42:52
    lacking yeah and um it's so easy like it
  • 00:42:56
    it's easy in that
  • 00:42:57
    you know even if you do one post a week
  • 00:43:00
    like do something talk to your fans and
  • 00:43:03
    really connect with your fans yeah um
  • 00:43:05
    because that comes through when you know
  • 00:43:09
    a brand or client music supervisor is
  • 00:43:11
    coming to look at who you are um the
  • 00:43:14
    last thing you want to see them do is
  • 00:43:16
    like you have one picture and then you
  • 00:43:18
    know the artist name and a link to the
  • 00:43:20
    website and nothing's happening and
  • 00:43:21
    they're like oh this is made for a sink
  • 00:43:24
    oh I see and they just turn away oh
  • 00:43:27
    pretty quickly from it so that part has
  • 00:43:29
    to be authentic too like you need to be
  • 00:43:31
    right the whole the whole picture
  • 00:43:35
    interesting yeah I think people just
  • 00:43:37
    want to focus on the music you know it's
  • 00:43:39
    like just let me make the music but it
  • 00:43:41
    all goes hand in hand and like I think
  • 00:43:43
    it's just committing to all the pieces
  • 00:43:45
    like yeah if you want to be in sync like
  • 00:43:47
    there's a it's multifaceted yeah yeah
  • 00:43:51
    yeah and even if you're a producer and
  • 00:43:53
    you're not an artist a producer can
  • 00:43:54
    still tell their story you know there's
  • 00:43:56
    some great producers like Austin Canon
  • 00:43:58
    has a great website you should go look
  • 00:44:00
    at um AA Ray um her website's great you
  • 00:44:05
    go and you see their personality and you
  • 00:44:07
    see the work they've done and you're
  • 00:44:09
    like okay I know what I'm getting when I
  • 00:44:11
    work with this particular producer right
  • 00:44:13
    and so I can I can pitch them as a
  • 00:44:15
    producer to a music supervisor and say
  • 00:44:18
    Here's what you're getting with this
  • 00:44:19
    producer F because another one when you
  • 00:44:21
    go to her page you can see like what
  • 00:44:23
    she's done and she's active on social
  • 00:44:25
    media um she's also an artist as well so
  • 00:44:27
    she's promoting her stuff as well as the
  • 00:44:29
    artist that she produces um but you can
  • 00:44:32
    see and and then so for myself and for a
  • 00:44:36
    music supervisor you categorize
  • 00:44:38
    everything everything kind of goes in a
  • 00:44:40
    bucket of like all right this is in the
  • 00:44:41
    bucket of that type of music that I know
  • 00:44:44
    I'm going to need at some point I can
  • 00:44:46
    come back to it later because I remember
  • 00:44:48
    for this reason and so anything you can
  • 00:44:52
    do that helps put you in a place where
  • 00:44:54
    music supervisors will you're standing
  • 00:44:56
    out and you
  • 00:44:57
    oh I know them for that you know like
  • 00:44:59
    for tabith the Meeks um she has a really
  • 00:45:03
    cool retro pop sound yeah and they know
  • 00:45:06
    to come to her for that and they know
  • 00:45:08
    they're going to get a really talented
  • 00:45:10
    piano player playing and beautiful
  • 00:45:13
    delicate voice and um all the different
  • 00:45:16
    styles of music that she does they know
  • 00:45:18
    what they're coming for and so and my
  • 00:45:20
    music is like rock and they know it's
  • 00:45:22
    like sports driven Rock stuff they know
  • 00:45:24
    they're going to get that so when
  • 00:45:27
    anything you can do to be distinctive
  • 00:45:28
    and then put a little pretty bow on it
  • 00:45:30
    and package it up so that when you hand
  • 00:45:32
    it to somebody like me I'm going to
  • 00:45:34
    pitch it I'm like all right great I know
  • 00:45:35
    what I'm pitching right you know I'm not
  • 00:45:37
    pulling it together to figure out all
  • 00:45:39
    right there's this piece over here she
  • 00:45:41
    doesn't know what that is so I don't
  • 00:45:43
    know what we're going to do with that
  • 00:45:44
    and then this over like what is you as a
  • 00:45:46
    full what is your brand as a producer
  • 00:45:49
    like Tiff you're like Tiff ISM you're
  • 00:45:51
    like an electronic producer and you've
  • 00:45:52
    got a cool EP coming out yeah I'm so
  • 00:45:54
    excited you like so excited about that
  • 00:45:57
    let's talk about your book that's coming
  • 00:45:58
    out well I have my um my first edition
  • 00:46:01
    is out um so music for media and Brands
  • 00:46:04
    I wrote a couple it's an ebook it's
  • 00:46:06
    online um I actually do need to get it
  • 00:46:08
    up on Amazon because I have a couple
  • 00:46:10
    universities that are interested in nice
  • 00:46:12
    using it in their curriculum um and um I
  • 00:46:16
    have a second edition coming out cuz
  • 00:46:19
    just everything I learned being you know
  • 00:46:21
    over the last two years even just so
  • 00:46:24
    many more things I need to add into the
  • 00:46:27
    book now that um I didn't know before
  • 00:46:31
    and so yeah so that's coming out and
  • 00:46:35
    initially it started as a way of like
  • 00:46:37
    communicating with Ad Agency PE folks
  • 00:46:41
    cuz as I mentioned earlier I was
  • 00:46:43
    traveling around the country and I was
  • 00:46:44
    meeting with ad agencies and talking to
  • 00:46:46
    them about where I was working at the
  • 00:46:48
    time perer music um but I was also
  • 00:46:51
    teaching them so they don't there were
  • 00:46:53
    so many of them that didn't understand
  • 00:46:55
    how to license music or how to approach
  • 00:46:57
    it and frequently an ad agency will Pro
  • 00:47:00
    will throw that job if they don't have a
  • 00:47:01
    music supervisor in house they'll throw
  • 00:47:03
    it to the producers and I'll say you
  • 00:47:05
    guys take care of the music sometimes
  • 00:47:07
    it's the copywriter sometimes it's the
  • 00:47:09
    creative director um it could be any
  • 00:47:12
    number of people that handle music maybe
  • 00:47:14
    it's everybody because it's a small
  • 00:47:15
    agency and so I found myself like saying
  • 00:47:18
    the same thing over and over again and
  • 00:47:20
    so I just put it in writing it was like
  • 00:47:22
    here you go tied it up with a bow and um
  • 00:47:25
    and it was a really cool marketing tool
  • 00:47:27
    at first too cuz then it was like you
  • 00:47:29
    know here's a very simple digestible
  • 00:47:33
    again like nugget of information that
  • 00:47:36
    can help you understand how this world
  • 00:47:37
    Works Mr Ad Agency person um and then
  • 00:47:42
    help them to know who I was too and so I
  • 00:47:46
    um yeah so I it's more directed towards
  • 00:47:50
    them but songwriters and artists can get
  • 00:47:52
    a lot from it I got a lot from it did
  • 00:47:54
    you okay good yeah yeah especially like
  • 00:47:57
    before I was connected to you I think I
  • 00:47:58
    bought the book first oh yeah um and
  • 00:48:01
    thank you yeah of course no it's it's
  • 00:48:03
    helpful and like it's such a different
  • 00:48:05
    space the commercial space there's a lot
  • 00:48:07
    more rules than like compared to like TV
  • 00:48:09
    for example like um I've heard that with
  • 00:48:13
    TV it's easier to get plac if you're
  • 00:48:15
    like a singer songwriter making you know
  • 00:48:18
    your own like vulnerable authentic
  • 00:48:20
    tracks while like with commercial
  • 00:48:22
    there's like some more rules Yeah Yeah
  • 00:48:25
    well yeah I mean cuz you have an ad gets
  • 00:48:28
    done in 30 60 or 90 seconds sometimes 15
  • 00:48:33
    now seven I've got request for 7 Seconds
  • 00:48:36
    yeah and so you have to think about the
  • 00:48:40
    the tempo of the song and how quickly
  • 00:48:42
    you're getting to the hook and how
  • 00:48:45
    quickly you're grabbing their attention
  • 00:48:47
    melodically um and so that all plays a
  • 00:48:52
    big role in whether or not the song's
  • 00:48:54
    going to place and so it has to move the
  • 00:48:56
    scene along um sometimes there's vo and
  • 00:48:59
    it has to just be a track that can sit
  • 00:49:02
    well in a scene and there's a lot of
  • 00:49:04
    voice over vo um sometimes the song
  • 00:49:07
    carries the entire spot and so it has to
  • 00:49:10
    have the right lyrics to um really carry
  • 00:49:15
    the message and what the brand is trying
  • 00:49:17
    to say to the consumer right and so
  • 00:49:21
    that's why I mentioned earlier they're
  • 00:49:22
    asking for things that don't exist
  • 00:49:24
    they're asking specifically for message
  • 00:49:27
    that fits their Brand's message for
  • 00:49:31
    consumers for that specific product and
  • 00:49:36
    so you know they want people to come in
  • 00:49:39
    and like feel safe they want them um
  • 00:49:43
    either to have a good time and feel
  • 00:49:45
    comfortable in a space like tar or you
  • 00:49:47
    know Target or you know familyfriendly
  • 00:49:49
    and Target right um they want people to
  • 00:49:52
    like come and communicate like have
  • 00:49:54
    Community like at Starbucks they want to
  • 00:49:58
    connect through technology through your
  • 00:50:01
    phone like it's all about connection and
  • 00:50:05
    so all of those messages have to be
  • 00:50:08
    delivered in a song in an authentic way
  • 00:50:11
    in a way the artist would say it MH it's
  • 00:50:13
    a lot y yeah yeah so yeah yeah I study I
  • 00:50:18
    just try to like look at what's going on
  • 00:50:21
    in in advertising regularly and in film
  • 00:50:23
    and TV now too cuz I'm pitching for all
  • 00:50:25
    of it MH and really understand what
  • 00:50:28
    they're looking for
  • 00:50:30
    mhm are there any last tips you want to
  • 00:50:33
    share with the viewers on like you know
  • 00:50:35
    just how to be successful in sync um I
  • 00:50:39
    know I've talked to a lot of guests that
  • 00:50:41
    say because I've asked like how do you
  • 00:50:43
    be full-time in sync and like it's it's
  • 00:50:46
    difficult you have to really be
  • 00:50:47
    releasing music constantly a lot of
  • 00:50:50
    people have side things like they're
  • 00:50:52
    they'll top line or do session work or
  • 00:50:54
    you know produce for artists on the side
  • 00:50:56
    but yeah just like people who are
  • 00:50:58
    scratching the surface of sink do you
  • 00:50:59
    have any tips for them yeah I mean one
  • 00:51:02
    thing is be great at your craft so you
  • 00:51:05
    know be great be a great musician be a
  • 00:51:08
    great vocalist be a great writer
  • 00:51:10
    whichever your particular thing you're
  • 00:51:12
    great at be really great at it and keep
  • 00:51:15
    working at it to become even better and
  • 00:51:18
    then collaborate with others yeah
  • 00:51:21
    because that's the way that for myself
  • 00:51:23
    even like and I've seen that for other
  • 00:51:25
    artists like that's how I been able to
  • 00:51:27
    land placements because I have a certain
  • 00:51:29
    skill set and things I was able to do
  • 00:51:32
    but when I collaborated with my
  • 00:51:33
    producers and co-writers they brought a
  • 00:51:36
    whole skill set to the table that I
  • 00:51:37
    didn't have and it just went it took it
  • 00:51:39
    through the freaking roof and it was
  • 00:51:41
    like okay so now that's helped me it's
  • 00:51:44
    it's like all everybody pulls you up to
  • 00:51:47
    where they're working and now you're you
  • 00:51:51
    know you're able to accelerate even
  • 00:51:54
    faster as a result so coate collaborate
  • 00:51:59
    connect um you know get learn as much as
  • 00:52:02
    you can about this world um um Amanda
  • 00:52:06
    cig Thomas wrote a really great book s
  • 00:52:08
    on sync 101 I recommend reading that um
  • 00:52:11
    there's another older book about s kind
  • 00:52:13
    of an older one I w't mention I don't
  • 00:52:15
    know if I should mention it anymore it's
  • 00:52:17
    like 10 years old or so it's like kind
  • 00:52:18
    of it's really outdated um you know but
  • 00:52:21
    watch podcast watch all the things and
  • 00:52:24
    do everything you can be the best you
  • 00:52:25
    can but collab collaboration I think is
  • 00:52:27
    a hugee part of that and also just
  • 00:52:30
    having someone to bounce your ideas off
  • 00:52:31
    of because you know how you can get into
  • 00:52:33
    your own head sometimes and like by the
  • 00:52:34
    time you finish a song you're like is
  • 00:52:35
    this even a good song anymore right but
  • 00:52:38
    when you're collaborating with other
  • 00:52:39
    people that you trust their ears it's
  • 00:52:40
    like okay well they think it's good so
  • 00:52:42
    it's good yeah yeah yeah totally for
  • 00:52:45
    people that are aspiring to do this
  • 00:52:47
    full-time is there a certain number of
  • 00:52:49
    songs that they should aim to make per
  • 00:52:52
    month or per
  • 00:52:54
    year so some of those guys I mentioned
  • 00:52:56
    ear that those hugely successful guys
  • 00:52:59
    they were writing pretty much a song
  • 00:53:01
    every day at least one and sometimes two
  • 00:53:03
    songs a day wow they take a break
  • 00:53:06
    weekend maybe but the it's Breakneck
  • 00:53:11
    speed at which people are creating
  • 00:53:15
    but really you know it's okay also to go
  • 00:53:18
    at your own pace create great music just
  • 00:53:22
    really create great music and yes
  • 00:53:27
    you know the volume has to be up there
  • 00:53:30
    um you know 100 songs a year is a good
  • 00:53:32
    goal to try to hit and every song you
  • 00:53:35
    write you're going to keep getting
  • 00:53:36
    better MH and so yeah I would just say
  • 00:53:41
    look at what your pace is for writing
  • 00:53:45
    and then set goals for yourself and set
  • 00:53:47
    small goals like all right this week I'm
  • 00:53:49
    going to work on at least two songs MH
  • 00:53:52
    um or one a week whatever that is for
  • 00:53:54
    you yeah yeah cuz like I said earlier
  • 00:53:56
    everybody every body works at a
  • 00:53:56
    different pace creativity doesn't have
  • 00:53:59
    like a stamped you need to do this
  • 00:54:01
    specific thing you know like there's no
  • 00:54:04
    whatever works for you totally um but do
  • 00:54:06
    know that they're like what you're
  • 00:54:08
    competing against in this market right
  • 00:54:11
    um but it doesn't mean that you can't
  • 00:54:12
    get those placements too okay and it
  • 00:54:15
    goes back to like the whole 10,000 hours
  • 00:54:16
    thing it's just good to make more music
  • 00:54:18
    you know oh totally and like creativity
  • 00:54:20
    I was saying this on another episode but
  • 00:54:22
    like it's not like you run out of
  • 00:54:24
    creativity the more you make the better
  • 00:54:26
    better and more creative you become yeah
  • 00:54:29
    totally and where can people find you
  • 00:54:31
    and your company yeah so um it's Freedom
  • 00:54:34
    music group.co is my company um you can
  • 00:54:37
    find my whole sphere of everything I do
  • 00:54:40
    is Heather D
  • 00:54:42
    cook.com um bruer
  • 00:54:45
    be.com so um and you have Instagram on
  • 00:54:49
    Instagram I'm on Instagram over the
  • 00:54:51
    place LinkedIn all of that um yeah and
  • 00:54:54
    then we just started there's a coalition
  • 00:54:57
    of us I should mention I need to make
  • 00:54:59
    sure I mention is called Nashville and
  • 00:55:01
    syn Y and super excited about that we're
  • 00:55:05
    a nonprofit
  • 00:55:06
    501c3 um we're formly of the Nashville
  • 00:55:11
    Film Festival music board um again just
  • 00:55:15
    made sense to go in a New Direction and
  • 00:55:18
    our our our events were growing so much
  • 00:55:20
    we kind of had to make it its own thing
  • 00:55:23
    and so um we're going to continue you to
  • 00:55:26
    do sync panels and events like we did at
  • 00:55:29
    the film festival my whole board is all
  • 00:55:31
    the all the sync Executives here in
  • 00:55:33
    Nashville good number of the S
  • 00:55:35
    Executives here in Nashville so um our
  • 00:55:39
    membership is open for application and
  • 00:55:42
    we have some opportunity to apply to be
  • 00:55:45
    on the board on the board and be
  • 00:55:47
    co-chair to board members so there's a
  • 00:55:50
    lot of opportunity there um but again
  • 00:55:53
    just to build community build
  • 00:55:55
    opportunity educate folks it's all about
  • 00:55:57
    education again like just helping our
  • 00:55:59
    community both the executives Sy
  • 00:56:01
    Executives in the industry and the
  • 00:56:03
    artists and songwriters in the business
  • 00:56:05
    as well and don't forget to follow
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    selling the soundtrack on Instagram Tik
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    Tok
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    YouTube um thanks guys peace thank you
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