An Uncommon Love, Untold Love Story Of Infosys: Narayana Murthy & Sudha Murty Rajya Sabha MP | N18V

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Résumé

TLDRVideo ini membahas perjalanan cinta antara Narayana Murthy dan Sudha Murthy, yang berakhir pada pendirian Infosys. Narayana Murthy, seorang leftis, jatuh cinta dengan Sudha, insinyur pertama di Telco. Mereka menghadapi banyak tantangan, termasuk pernikahan sederhana yang hanya memakan biaya 800 rupee. Sudha sempat memberi modal bagi Infosys, namun memilih untuk tidak berkontribusi secara langsung demi prinsip tata kelola yang baik. Narayana Murthy merenungkan pentingnya disiplin kerja, nilai-nilai keluarga, dan tanggung jawab sosial, mendorong anak-anak mereka untuk hidup sesuai kemampuan dan menghargai pendidikan.

A retenir

  • ❤️ Cerita cinta Narayana dan Sudha Murthy yang menginspirasi.
  • 💍 Pernikahan sederhana yang hanya menghabiskan 800 rupee.
  • 💡 Sudha Murthy menjadi investor awal Infosys dengan modal 10,000 rupee.
  • 🏢 Prisip tata kelola yang baik sangat penting dalam bisnis.
  • 📚 Nilai-nilai keluarga dan tanggung jawab sosial sangat ditekankan dalam hidup.
  • ⏳ Kerja keras adalah kunci sukses, tidak hanya untuk diri sendiri tapi juga untuk masyarakat.

Chronologie

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Cerita cinta Sudha Muti dan Narayan Murthy, yang menjadi fondasi kesuksesan Infosys, diungkapkan dalam wawancara ini. Narayan Murthy menggambarkan bagaimana cinta pertama bertemu dengan Sudha, seorang insinyur yang berani dan menembus batas di tempat kerja. Mereka berbagi momen-momen romantis dan komitmen yang kuat terhadap satu sama lain, yang membantu mereka melewati tantangan yang ada.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Perjalanan mereka menuju pernikahan pada 10 Februari 1978 tidak mudah, terutama karena Narayan harus meyakinkan ayah Sudha yang menginginkan pernikahan yang meriah. Dalam menghadapi dinamika keluarga yang besar, mereka memilih pernikahan sederhana yang mencerminkan nilai-nilai mereka. Narayan dan Sudha menegaskan bahwa pernikahan bukan sekadar acara, melainkan komitmen seumur hidup.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Setelah menikah, Sudha memberikan hadiah istimewa kepada Narayan yang mencatat total pengeluaran mereka selama kencan, mencerminkan bagaimana mereka saling mendukung meskipun menghadapi tantangan keuangan. Narayan juga menjelaskan bahwa ia memilih untuk bekerja dengan gaji setengah saat memulai perusahaan untuk menunjukkan komitmen pada startup.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Meskipun Sudha sangat berkompeten dan berkualitas, Narayan awalnya menolak untuk membawanya ke dalam Infosys, percaya bahwa tata kelola perusahaan yang baik berarti tidak melibatkan anggota keluarga. Namun, ia kemudian merefleksikan pendapatnya dan memahami nilai membawa orang yang kompeten, terlepas dari hubungan keluarga, ke dalam organisasi.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:36

    Narayan membagikan pandangannya tentang keseimbangan antara karier dan keluarga, menyadari ketidakcukupannya sebagai ayah. Ia berbagi nilai-nilai yang diteruskan kepada anak-anak mereka, menekankan pentingnya kerja keras dan hidup di bawah kemampuan, serta selalu mengutamakan pendidikan dan belajar dari pengalaman hidup.

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Vidéo Q&R

  • Apa latar belakang Sudha Murthy dan Narayana Murthy?

    Sudha Murthy adalah insinyur pertama di Telco, dan Narayana Murthy seorang leftis yang jatuh cinta padanya.

  • Mengapa Sudha Murthy tidak langsung menerima tawaran ikut ambil bagian dalam Infosys?

    Dia ingin menjaga prinsip tata kelola perusahaan yang baik dan percaya bahwa merit harus menjadi faktor utama.

  • Berapa banyak yang mereka habiskan untuk pernikahan mereka?

    Mereka hanya mengeluarkan 800 rupee untuk pernikahan mereka.

  • Apa saran yang diberikan Murthy kepada anak-anaknya?

    Ia menekankan pentingnya hidup sesuai dengan kemampuan dan memiliki nilai-nilai yang baik.

  • Bagaimana pandangan Murthy tentang bekerja keras?

    Ia percaya bahwa mereka yang berpendidikan harus bekerja lebih keras untuk memberi kembali kepada masyarakat.

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    everybody had a family tree I have a
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    go back but we should we should know how
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    commitment for lifelong so he said let
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    us be very simple because we live simple
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    we should make our marriage in a very
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    much people I mean we have lived there
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    people then mti's mother very nice lady
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    house so on my side there are five
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    people or six people my parents plus we
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    thread not even in Gold okay that's it
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    Temple and we had lunch there the
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    know Sanskrit as well as she did so she
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    11:45 everything it was all done and and
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    there was a special wedding gift that
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    all the money that she had spent on your
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    dates which amounted to about
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    4,200 rupees I was uh pretty good in
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    that sense I kind of you know I made her
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    pay for all of her dinner he started his
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    own company did not have money before
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    that you know I voluntarily took half
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    the salary at the systems Research
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    Institute where uh I Jo point after I
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    came back from Paris I said look uh this
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    is a startup and I want to uh make some
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    sacrifice otherwise startups don't mean
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    anything so I just took half the salary
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    uh Professor Krishna was a little bit uh
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    month and then I would sponge on
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    her I I actually didn't know the the
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    reason why you spell your surname as m r
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    t y and you spell it as m r t h y was
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    because you believe that Sanskrit
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    version of Muti is most appropriate
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    spelled m r t why because Sanskrit is
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    the perfect language and because for
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    every pronunciation there is a letter so
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    when I said th y I said that is th and
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    morti in Sanskrit
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    is know Nar morti was morti this is a
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    kind of name where you can you can
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    visualize that Mor is a statue so it
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    cannot be thy so in this one of the
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    condition in marriage is I will not
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    write my surname thy because against the
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    actually and you not only her even her
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    children all
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    children
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    our Muti and not miti yeah yeah exactly
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    and you you had no issues with that no
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    not really because uh you know I I was
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    uh quite uh open-minded quite modern in
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    these things therefore I said what is
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    important is that uh we
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    should uh start off with give and take
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    wherever possible and we
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    should agree to disagree without being
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    disagreeable we should give space to
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    each other so that both of us can
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    operate uh uh freely and that our
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    identity can uh be shaped so these were
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    some of the ideas that we that I started
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    with and then I said uh look
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    whatever I've tried to do in life as a
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    great follower of Mahatma Gandhi my
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    belief is I should lead by example I
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    have tried to lead by example in almost
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    everything that I have done in life so
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    therefore I said if I have to insist on
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    T or th y I thought that was not the
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    thing
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    I want to understand from you the day
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    when you told Mr Muti that you should be
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    part of infosis as well because you were
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    part of the story from the very start
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    you provided the seed Capital you in
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    fact provided the very differentiating
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    idea that INF should focus on the export
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    Market as opposed to the domestic market
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    and when you finally thought that this
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    was an opportunity for you to be part of
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    the company he said no and and that
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    wasn't an easy one for you to accept no
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    but one more important thing she was as
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    qualified in most ways more qualified
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    than all the six or seven of us that is
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    also very important not that she was not
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    qualified so therefore that's very
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    important yeah so why did you say no
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    then no again you know I had this uh
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    feeling that good corporate governance
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    means not bringing family into because
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    those days it was only family Ru all
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    kinds of children used to come and uh
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    run the company there used to be a
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    violation of all laws but later on Shin
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    I must tell you this a few years ago I
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    had a long discussion with a couple of
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    professors of philosophy from uh two
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    extremely well-known universities in the
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    world and they said I was wrong you know
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    you know they said Miss Muti you are
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    the Merit whether it's your wife your
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    son your daughter as long as that person
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    has the Merit as long as they go through
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    the normal procedure you have no right
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    to prevent that person from being part
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    of the thing because you are then taking
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    away some of your right that's why I
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    don't know if you remember when we had
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    the discussion I openly said I was wrong
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    was doing those days was wrong I
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    was uh wrongly
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    idealistic and in some way I think I was
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    influenced a lot by the environment of
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    those
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    days so you paid the price for his
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    idealism in a sense I I know you
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    accepted the decision but I I don't
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    believe you still agreed with it well U
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    I always believe look in given set of
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    circumstances what is the best way to
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    react she think almost like Harvard
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    University
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    president I'm not a Harvard Professor
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    anything I'm a very simp you could you
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    could have been MIT you could have been
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    MIT which you chose to to give up and
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    move to
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    Telco so I said no pleas hell bent upon
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    that I should not come then he said you
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    join and I will
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    drop know suppose I joined I would have
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    also worked very hard but go you know
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    was the license Raj that time we have to
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    sit in Delhi you have to sit in
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    Washington see with two children how
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    will I sit there for 3 months 6 months
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    it was practically not possible right
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    though if it's an office I can work day
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    and night but going and sitting in Delhi
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    he says okay and knowing miti suppose he
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    takes a decision right or wrong he will
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    he will stick to that that I knew that I
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    knew once he takes that then he will has
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    it has to be done now I can say okay I
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    will join then he will leave and he will
  • 00:16:11
    not come and it will affect in
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    forces now I have what choice I
  • 00:16:17
    have when I should take up a job and
  • 00:16:20
    morti will be at home or he will take
  • 00:16:21
    some other job infosis his dream or
  • 00:16:25
    probably India's dream at that moment
  • 00:16:28
    will will not come up now if I don't
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    take job only I will be hurt but it is
  • 00:16:34
    good for the family good for the
  • 00:16:37
    children it is good for the company and
  • 00:16:40
    good for morti so when there are four
  • 00:16:42
    good and one negative and negative is
  • 00:16:45
    about me and I will manage it so you
  • 00:16:49
    eventually decided to step back accept
  • 00:16:51
    the decision of not being a part of that
  • 00:16:53
    is uh that's what uh brain said but
  • 00:16:57
    heart did not accept it I said no I have
  • 00:17:00
    to work because I love technology I used
  • 00:17:03
    to love technology and your own company
  • 00:17:06
    you can work hard you can Fe that Joy is
  • 00:17:09
    different you know it is not money the
  • 00:17:12
    joy of working with your colleagues
  • 00:17:14
    making a product or service or it
  • 00:17:16
    something very nice and I always enjoyed
  • 00:17:18
    that in Telo and that I had to give up
  • 00:17:22
    for everything there the price now that
  • 00:17:24
    you acknowledge the fact that you were
  • 00:17:26
    wrong about uh someone with Merit who
  • 00:17:28
    happen to be a family member coming back
  • 00:17:31
    or being a part of emphasis today I mean
  • 00:17:34
    if if your second child were to say that
  • 00:17:36
    I want to be part of emphasis what would
  • 00:17:38
    you say if Rohan were to say he wants to
  • 00:17:40
    be part of empasis he I think he's even
  • 00:17:43
    stricter than I am in these uh ideas we
  • 00:17:48
    will never say that never never uh first
  • 00:17:52
    of all I am just a shareholder of infas
  • 00:17:55
    I have I have not being consulted on any
  • 00:18:01
    issue in empasis in the law since octob
  • 00:18:05
    uh since August 4th or 5th 2017 when n
  • 00:18:09
    took over not once it's the right thing
  • 00:18:13
    I mean he's doing uh uh the way we all
  • 00:18:18
    did okay so apart from
  • 00:18:22
    being the
  • 00:18:25
    largest uh family shareholders of India
  • 00:18:28
    inis we have nothing else to do with
  • 00:18:31
    infosis that's the reality what would
  • 00:18:34
    you say has been your biggest regret
  • 00:18:35
    when you talk about uh disappointing or
  • 00:18:40
    not meeting expectations or letting
  • 00:18:42
    someone down what would you qualify as
  • 00:18:44
    your biggest regret today no I think I
  • 00:18:48
    have not been a great
  • 00:18:50
    father I could have been much better A
  • 00:18:53
    lot
  • 00:18:54
    better
  • 00:18:56
    but thanks to suda that particular L was
  • 00:19:02
    uh uh filled
  • 00:19:05
    up I have been very tough with my
  • 00:19:08
    colleagues very very
  • 00:19:10
    tough without
  • 00:19:13
    exception but I have never done
  • 00:19:18
    anything with a with a desire to take
  • 00:19:23
    advantage of that situation with a
  • 00:19:25
    desire to benefit from those things
  • 00:19:29
    my whole emphasis was always even today
  • 00:19:32
    for example so many times I tell p you
  • 00:19:35
    know we had some Foreigner coming I told
  • 00:19:39
    P have you checked this have you checked
  • 00:19:40
    that have we checked that have we
  • 00:19:41
    checked that then he
  • 00:19:45
    just a little bit surprised he looked at
  • 00:19:48
    me I said I'm doing all this because I
  • 00:19:50
    don't want India to look
  • 00:19:53
    bad so in everything that I have done so
  • 00:19:57
    far
  • 00:19:58
    I to the best of my
  • 00:20:01
    ability I have tried to make India look
  • 00:20:05
    good to the best of my ability I tried
  • 00:20:09
    to make
  • 00:20:10
    emphasis
  • 00:20:12
    succeed I have try to be as generous as
  • 00:20:18
    possible
  • 00:20:20
    as to all my
  • 00:20:23
    colleagues but when it is a question
  • 00:20:27
    of Excellence when it a question of
  • 00:20:30
    doing what is necessary on time within
  • 00:20:33
    budget no I have I I have not I don't
  • 00:20:37
    you know because my bosses didn't give
  • 00:20:38
    me two they
  • 00:20:42
    were probably 10 times tougher than I
  • 00:20:45
    have ever been to any of my colleagues
  • 00:20:47
    or to my children or even to my wife but
  • 00:20:51
    that's the way I am so what is the the
  • 00:20:53
    advice that you've given akata and Rohan
  • 00:20:56
    uh you know from your own learnings from
  • 00:20:59
    your own experiences as well as from
  • 00:21:01
    your own mentors I mean JD Tata was was
  • 00:21:04
    a mentor to you and I know that you
  • 00:21:06
    follow his advice of giving back to
  • 00:21:08
    Society on the back of the success that
  • 00:21:09
    you have earned very seriously but what
  • 00:21:12
    is it that you would like to pass on to
  • 00:21:15
    uh to akata and to Rohan uh I told akata
  • 00:21:18
    and Rohan these
  • 00:21:19
    things akata I told we should always
  • 00:21:22
    live within our means you and your
  • 00:21:26
    husband together have whatever money you
  • 00:21:27
    make
  • 00:21:29
    whether it's a good whether it's big
  • 00:21:31
    money or small money you have to live
  • 00:21:33
    within your means okay because we lived
  • 00:21:37
    always with I never ever spent more than
  • 00:21:40
    what I earned okay so that is so that
  • 00:21:43
    there will not be tension in life if
  • 00:21:45
    your income is 100 spend 80 60 70 don't
  • 00:21:50
    cross that Rohan both of them the same
  • 00:21:53
    advice no different you know both of
  • 00:21:55
    them I told have good values in life you
  • 00:21:59
    know nothing remains with you like what
  • 00:22:02
    Buddha says whatever is there it
  • 00:22:04
    perishes in life but be good to others
  • 00:22:08
    and do your work the day you stop
  • 00:22:10
    learning you'll become old person are
  • 00:22:13
    you surprised by the blowback that this
  • 00:22:14
    70h hour week comment of yours has got
  • 00:22:17
    no I I rationalized it this way if
  • 00:22:23
    anybody that has performed much better
  • 00:22:27
    than me in their own field not necess in
  • 00:22:29
    my field I would respect I would call
  • 00:22:33
    them and I would say where do you think
  • 00:22:36
    I was wrong in saying this but I didn't
  • 00:22:40
    find lot of my Western friends lot of
  • 00:22:44
    nris lot of good people in India called
  • 00:22:48
    me and without exception they were all
  • 00:22:52
    very happy they all said whether it's 70
  • 00:22:56
    60 that's not the issue
  • 00:22:58
    the issue is that we have to work hard
  • 00:23:01
    in this country because the poor farmer
  • 00:23:04
    works very hard you know the poor
  • 00:23:06
    Factory workers worker works very hard
  • 00:23:10
    so therefore those of us who received
  • 00:23:13
    education at at a huge discount thanks
  • 00:23:18
    to the the the subsidy from the
  • 00:23:22
    government for all these educations to
  • 00:23:24
    in my case I got scholarship right from
  • 00:23:27
    my pruners national scholarship so I
  • 00:23:30
    said we owe it to the less fortunate
  • 00:23:35
    citizens of India to work extremely hard
  • 00:23:39
    so
  • 00:23:41
    therefore I uh whenever somebody who has
  • 00:23:44
    performed better than
  • 00:23:46
    me
  • 00:23:47
    uh comments on I will take it very
  • 00:23:51
    seriously but not otherwise no I come
  • 00:23:55
    from a doctor's family my father used to
  • 00:23:57
    work more than 70 hours a week my sister
  • 00:23:59
    is a doctor she also works more than 70
  • 00:24:01
    hours Mor has work 90 hours a week no
  • 00:24:04
    here we you know I I used to go 6 and
  • 00:24:07
    1/2 days even in electronic City I used
  • 00:24:09
    to work 6 and 1/2 days and every day I
  • 00:24:12
    would leave home at 6 a.m. in the
  • 00:24:16
    morning I would be in the office at
  • 00:24:18
    6:20 and I would leave by about 8:15
  • 00:24:22
    8:30 then only M would leave and then I
  • 00:24:26
    would be home by about
  • 00:24:28
    915 9:30 children would be ready we
  • 00:24:31
    would take them
  • 00:24:33
    to uh maast or one of those pizza joints
  • 00:24:37
    or something those days there were no
  • 00:24:40
    pizza heart and we would have a
  • 00:24:42
    wonderful time up to 11 11:30 so and I
  • 00:24:47
    used to do it for 6 days a week in about
  • 00:24:50
    14 uh 6 6 and 1/2 days 13 to 14 hours a
  • 00:24:54
    day 6 and 1/2 days a week I was M and
  • 00:24:58
    I've done it therefore one thing I have
  • 00:25:01
    followed and that whatever advice I have
  • 00:25:05
    given to others I think by and large I
  • 00:25:09
    have followed it I have not given uh
  • 00:25:13
    advice to people uh without having done
  • 00:25:17
    it
  • 00:25:26
    myself
  • 00:25:29
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