Boring Sh*t That Will Make You Rich
Résumé
TLDRThe speaker at a keynote conference shares her journey of scaling businesses to achieve $100 million in sales by leveraging other people's skills. With personal success and helping hundreds of other businesses, she emphasizes the critical role of talent acquisition in surpassing traditional client acquisition methods. Around age 24, she began earning $1.2 million monthly and gained vast experience in scaling businesses across various sectors, later reaching a portfolio revenue of $200 million yearly. However, early ventures like gym launch were challenging, involving exhaustive manual labor and facing bankruptcy threats until a shift to a licensing model proved more sustainable. The key knowledge shared revolves around the 'who, what, and how' needed for scaling - identifying the right people, defining their roles, and providing necessary guidance. The speaker highlights how pairing strong talent acquisition processes with existing client acquisition strategies aids in propelling growth from thousands to millions monthly without funnel changes. Stress is laid on seeing talent acquisition as a business growth strategy, deploying methods like extensive job ad strategies, nurturing applicants, and sophisticated interview processes to harness the full potential of recruits, a strategy backed by tangible growth metrics from her businesses.
A retenir
- 💡 Talent acquisition is crucial for scaling a business.
- 📈 Leveraging other people's skills can drive significant growth.
- 🔍 Understanding the 'who, what, and how' is key in business scaling.
- ⚙️ Switching business models can lead to better scalability.
- 📝 Crafting specific job ads attracts the right talent.
- 🚀 Combining talent and client acquisition accelerates growth.
- 🔄 Reevaluate and adapt hiring strategies for better outcomes.
- ⏱ Speed in hiring processes influences job acceptance.
- 📊 Structured interview processes improve hiring effectiveness.
- 🔗 Pairing the right talent with strategy leads to remarkable growth.
Chronologie
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The keynote speaker discusses their success in scaling multiple businesses by utilizing other people's skills, emphasizing the importance of recruiting the right team to handle the 'who', 'what', and 'how' for business scaling. They share their personal experience and business achievements as a testament to their methods.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
The speaker recounts the early days of their business journey, highlighting the shift from direct sales at gyms to a licensing model which allowed for better scalability. This shift was prompted by the realization that the original model wasn’t sustainable long-term.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
The challenge of scaling was linked to talent acquisition rather than client acquisition. The speaker discovered they couldn’t scale beyond $400,000 monthly revenue due to limitations in their sales team's capacity, prompting a focus on building a talent acquisition funnel.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Talent acquisition is compared to client acquisition, requiring a strategic approach involving application generation, nurture, and interviewing. The speaker emphasizes the importance of having a robust talent acquisition system to scale from $400,000 to $4 million per month.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
The 'Value Acceleration Method' or 'VAM' devised by the speaker's company aids businesses in scaling by focusing on 'who' to bring into the organization. This includes specifics on job titles and ad distribution for effective talent acquisition.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
An effective job advertisement is crucial, requiring specificity and clarity to attract the right candidates. The speaker shares personal experiences highlighting how a change in job title improved applicant quality significantly.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
The audience is advised to use various methods for recruiting, including cold reach outs and leveraging existing networks while warning against over-reliance on personal networks due to limitations in potential talent pool.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
The nurturing of applicants involves speed and personalization in communication, akin to lead nurturing in sales. An emphasis is placed on prompt follow-ups and ensuring a good candidate experience, which influences their decision to join the company.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
An organized interview process is crucial for hiring success. This involves multiple interview phases including screening, skill tests, and alignment interviews, ensuring a thorough assessment of candidates to match the company's needs.
- 00:45:00 - 00:52:44
Highlighting the importance of a structured hiring process, the speaker shares successful case studies where implementing these processes led to substantial business growth, reiterating that building the right team drives success.
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Vidéo Q&R
What is the video about?
The video discusses how the speaker scaled her businesses to $100 million in sales using other people's skills, focusing on talent acquisition.
Who is the target audience for this video?
Entrepreneurs and business owners looking to scale their businesses.
What does the speaker emphasize as crucial for scaling a business?
The speaker emphasizes the importance of talent acquisition alongside client acquisition.
How does talent acquisition contribute to business growth according to the speaker?
It involves recruiting skilled individuals who can help execute business operations and contribute to scalability.
What methodology does the speaker use for business growth?
The speaker utilizes the "Value Acceleration Method" for teaching business scaling.
What challenges did the speaker face initially?
She faced issues like exhaustion from doing all the work themselves and almost going bankrupt twice before rethinking their business model.
What business model change led to success for gym launch?
Switching from a model where they personally helped gyms to a licensing model teaching gyms to execute the strategies themselves.
How important are hiring processes in businesses according to the video?
Critical, as they help in acquiring the right talent to support and drive business growth.
What is the 'who, what, and how' referenced in the video?
It refers to understanding who to hire, what they should do, and how to integrate them into the business strategy.
What does the speaker say about the hiring process for entrepreneurs?
Entrepreneurs should not rely solely on themselves but should hire people who can perform tasks as well or better than they can.
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- 00:00:00this video today is how I scale to 100
- 00:00:02million in sales using other people's
- 00:00:04skills this is the boring [ __ ] that's
- 00:00:06actually going to make you money this
- 00:00:07video is from a keynote I did I hope you
- 00:00:09enjoy
- 00:00:10the secret that has been responsible for
- 00:00:13scaling four of my own businesses and
- 00:00:15hundreds of others I don't say that as
- 00:00:17like a hundreds of others like actually
- 00:00:19hundreds of other businesses I've been
- 00:00:21doing this for the last seven years
- 00:00:23I just started making content so if you
- 00:00:25don't know who I am I just want to give
- 00:00:27like a brief this is who I am in 60
- 00:00:30Seconds
- 00:00:31so since the age of 24 I've taken home
- 00:00:34about 1.2 million dollars a month I
- 00:00:36don't say that to brag I say it to tell
- 00:00:38you and to give an emphasis on the fact
- 00:00:40that what I'm telling you today does
- 00:00:41make you money
- 00:00:43and I personally built scaled and sold
- 00:00:46three businesses one was service which
- 00:00:47was gym launch one was e-commerce which
- 00:00:50was Prestige labs and the other one was
- 00:00:52software which was Alan
- 00:00:54and by the age of 29 I crossed 100
- 00:00:56million in net worth
- 00:00:58and now our portfolio does about 200
- 00:01:00million in Revenue per year
- 00:01:03which is comprised of
- 00:01:04brick and mortar chains e-commerce B2B
- 00:01:07SAS b2bc Services B2B services and
- 00:01:11e-learning so it's a lot of companies
- 00:01:15um and what I've really learned is that
- 00:01:17independent of Industry okay
- 00:01:19entrepreneurs typically lack the who the
- 00:01:23what and the how to scale those are the
- 00:01:25three things that you need to scale your
- 00:01:26company
- 00:01:27and at acquisition.com what we do is we
- 00:01:30recruit the who we give them the what
- 00:01:32and then we show them the how and then
- 00:01:34once the entrepreneur has all three of
- 00:01:36those things they can scale their
- 00:01:37business
- 00:01:39and that's how we scale businesses from
- 00:01:4110 to 100 million
- 00:01:43of course it was not always like that
- 00:01:45and so to give you a little bit of
- 00:01:46backstory uh back to 2016. uh this was
- 00:01:50me and Alex uh that was when we made ads
- 00:01:53because we met and we started this
- 00:01:56company called gym launch which it was
- 00:01:58not a company back then it was me and
- 00:02:00Alex uh learning how to do Facebook ads
- 00:02:03and knowing how to sell people into gyms
- 00:02:05and teaching them how to retain those
- 00:02:06customers and so what we actually used
- 00:02:08to do is we would literally fly out to a
- 00:02:10gym like he would be in Virginia I would
- 00:02:13be in Hawaii we would turn on the
- 00:02:14marketing for them and then we would
- 00:02:16literally sit at their front desk and we
- 00:02:17would sell people into their gym for
- 00:02:19them so like then we call each other
- 00:02:20every night and be like how made you
- 00:02:22sell today like I got 30 I got 20 I got
- 00:02:2415 like just High transactional sales
- 00:02:27into these gyms and we did that for
- 00:02:30about 11 months uh flying Spirit living
- 00:02:33out of the Extended Stay living out of
- 00:02:34our cars sleeping at clients houses we
- 00:02:37were broke we had no money
- 00:02:39and we started to gain a little bit of
- 00:02:41success
- 00:02:42um and so we thought to ourselves you
- 00:02:44know we're exhausted looked like [ __ ]
- 00:02:46I've aged like five years at this point
- 00:02:48and we probably should try and hire some
- 00:02:51people to do this for us and so what we
- 00:02:53did was we decided let's not hire one
- 00:02:56sales person let's just hire six at once
- 00:02:59and so we hired six sales guys to fly
- 00:03:02out to these next locations and so we
- 00:03:04booked up six gyms the next month to
- 00:03:07basically fill them up and they were
- 00:03:09like okay they're gonna do what we just
- 00:03:10did
- 00:03:11and so we did that and it was a little
- 00:03:15painful
- 00:03:15um but we made it work and we started to
- 00:03:17gain a little bit of traction but we
- 00:03:19started to realize that this model
- 00:03:21wasn't necessarily going to work
- 00:03:24um in fact we continue to have endless
- 00:03:26problems we almost went bankrupt twice
- 00:03:29and we thought maybe this isn't the
- 00:03:31right model
- 00:03:33so we switched the model to licensing
- 00:03:36which is if any of you guys know us or
- 00:03:38our backstory that's what gym launches
- 00:03:39today it's a licensing model and so you
- 00:03:42know we switched to licensing which was
- 00:03:44basically we'll teach people how to do
- 00:03:46what we were doing we're not going to
- 00:03:48fly out to gyms anymore we're going to
- 00:03:49teach those gyms how to do what we had
- 00:03:51just done
- 00:03:52and so we switched to the licensing
- 00:03:54and we finally started to gain some
- 00:03:56traction like it finally felt like I
- 00:03:58wasn't under water we weren't like going
- 00:04:00to go broke every other second you know
- 00:04:02I wasn't anxious all the time
- 00:04:04and then we hit a point where we
- 00:04:06couldn't scale so like we gained a
- 00:04:08little bit of success and it felt like
- 00:04:09things were going right but it was just
- 00:04:11like why are we not growing more you
- 00:04:13know we wanted the fast growth we wanted
- 00:04:15to be like a rocket ship
- 00:04:16and we continue to bang our heads
- 00:04:18against the wall trying to figure out
- 00:04:19like is it the marketing is it the
- 00:04:21funnel do we need to tweak the offer is
- 00:04:22it the sales like what do we need to do
- 00:04:25and we couldn't break past about 400 000
- 00:04:27a month
- 00:04:29and so after about two months of setting
- 00:04:31sales targets and not hitting them
- 00:04:33something occurred to me
- 00:04:35which was that the reason that our sales
- 00:04:37targets weren't being hit was not
- 00:04:39because of our marketing or a funnel or
- 00:04:41a lack of client acquisition like we had
- 00:04:43a super strong client acquisition arm
- 00:04:46it was actually due to capacity and
- 00:04:48limitations on our sales team
- 00:04:51and so we actually couldn't hire fast
- 00:04:53enough to even contact all the people
- 00:04:56that were opting in for gym launch that
- 00:04:58was actually the issue like when I
- 00:05:00logged into the CRM I was like we have
- 00:05:02hundreds of leads sitting here that
- 00:05:03nobody's ever contacted
- 00:05:06and just when I thought that I was
- 00:05:07starting to understand the issue one of
- 00:05:09our reps quit I was like [ __ ]
- 00:05:12[ __ ] sucks
- 00:05:13and so I called my mentor who I'll call
- 00:05:16Bob and I was like Bob I [ __ ] hate my
- 00:05:18life what do I do like we finally found
- 00:05:21some success I don't know what to do I
- 00:05:23don't know how to actually scale this
- 00:05:24business like I don't understand what's
- 00:05:25wrong like we have this super strong
- 00:05:27marketing and super strong sales like
- 00:05:29we're tweaked the funnel and we did this
- 00:05:30but like I just I don't see anything
- 00:05:31wrong with it at this point so I don't
- 00:05:33really understand like I think there's
- 00:05:34like limitations on our team maybe but
- 00:05:35like I don't really know mind you at
- 00:05:37this point I'm 24 years old I've never
- 00:05:39built a business before I've never
- 00:05:40managed a single person in my life I
- 00:05:42have no idea what the hell I'm doing
- 00:05:45so Bob was like well what's your talent
- 00:05:47acquisition funnel look like Layla and I
- 00:05:49was like the [ __ ] is that you know like
- 00:05:51anyone heard of that I had not at that
- 00:05:53point I was like I don't even know what
- 00:05:55that word barely means
- 00:05:56and so he explained Layla the talent
- 00:05:59acquisition funnel is the mirror to
- 00:06:01every business
- 00:06:02if you want to keep clients coming in
- 00:06:04the front door
- 00:06:06then your talent needs to continue to
- 00:06:07come in the back door
- 00:06:10and so the reason that we couldn't scale
- 00:06:12was not due to lack of client
- 00:06:13acquisition it was actually due to lack
- 00:06:15of talent acquisition
- 00:06:18and so what I want to explain is that
- 00:06:20you are all familiar with this okay
- 00:06:23everybody pretty much I would assume
- 00:06:25maybe I don't know gets this lead
- 00:06:27generation lead nurture and sales do you
- 00:06:30guys get that is that familiar simple
- 00:06:32enough right that's a funnel that most
- 00:06:34people use to acquire clients right
- 00:06:36that's the simplest way I could put it
- 00:06:38but what about Talent acquisition who
- 00:06:41talks about that
- 00:06:43Talent acquisition if you think about a
- 00:06:45lead you can think about application
- 00:06:46generation
- 00:06:48if you think about lead nurture you can
- 00:06:50think about application nurture and if
- 00:06:52you think about sales you can replace
- 00:06:53that with interviewing
- 00:06:56and that was really the light bulb
- 00:06:57moment for me is when I put those two
- 00:06:59funnels side by side and I was like oh
- 00:07:02this is how you grow business
- 00:07:05so as soon as we paired Talent
- 00:07:07acquisition with client acquisition that
- 00:07:10is when you're able to scale from four
- 00:07:11hundred thousand dollars a month to four
- 00:07:13million per month
- 00:07:15it was not guys we did not even change
- 00:07:18our funnel when we were doing four
- 00:07:20million a month it was the same funnel
- 00:07:22the same sales process that it was when
- 00:07:24we were doing 400 000 a month
- 00:07:27all we did was add in the second funnel
- 00:07:31and then we lived happily ever after
- 00:07:34obviously not it's pretty good though
- 00:07:37um but we did realize that Talent
- 00:07:39acquisition was going to break us
- 00:07:40through that barrier and that was what
- 00:07:41we needed at that point in time
- 00:07:43and we really realized that we were just
- 00:07:46like they say one funnel away I just
- 00:07:48like to spin this out I'm like we're
- 00:07:49actually one Higher away from all the
- 00:07:51growth you want from all the leverage
- 00:07:53you need from all the sanity that you
- 00:07:54typically think you've lost when you
- 00:07:56start your business and all the lessons
- 00:07:57that we don't all have time to learn for
- 00:07:59ourselves
- 00:08:01and so here's a thought experiment for
- 00:08:03you guys
- 00:08:04is if someone could come in today and do
- 00:08:06everything you do in your business
- 00:08:08and you wouldn't have to do anything and
- 00:08:10your business would grow the exact same
- 00:08:12amount
- 00:08:13why are you necessary
- 00:08:18the answer is that you're not your job
- 00:08:21is to find the people that can do those
- 00:08:23things for you and for a lot of people
- 00:08:25they'll just never get that and they're
- 00:08:27going to continue to spin their wheels
- 00:08:28over and over and over again why is it
- 00:08:30that I work so hard and I don't know why
- 00:08:31my company's not growing well duck is
- 00:08:33it's not you that needs to work so hard
- 00:08:34you need to have an entire Army of
- 00:08:36people who work hard
- 00:08:38and so your number one job as a leader
- 00:08:41is to find the people to help you build
- 00:08:43your business this is how you get to 100
- 00:08:45million it's not the [ __ ] funnel it
- 00:08:48is this fungal
- 00:08:50and so after all if you wanted to win
- 00:08:52the Super Bowl you're not going to say
- 00:08:54I'm going to go win the Super Bowl alone
- 00:08:56like me Layla is gonna walk on the field
- 00:08:58in front of like another team of 30
- 00:09:00people right I would never do that I
- 00:09:02would need offense defense special teams
- 00:09:04coaches trainers
- 00:09:06in other words you need marketing you
- 00:09:08need sales you need product you need
- 00:09:10customer success you need Finance HR it
- 00:09:12you need a team
- 00:09:16and so only us entrepreneurs are really
- 00:09:18crazy enough to think that we can do
- 00:09:20this alone
- 00:09:22after all Steve Jobs was not the one who
- 00:09:24built the iPhone
- 00:09:26Steve built the team that built the
- 00:09:27iPhone
- 00:09:30and so I know you're probably thinking
- 00:09:31well that's great Layla for you and
- 00:09:33Steve but what about me like what the
- 00:09:36[ __ ] do I do what is this funnel right
- 00:09:38and that's what we're going to talk
- 00:09:39about in our short amount of time we
- 00:09:41have here today
- 00:09:43to get repeatable outcomes we use a
- 00:09:45repeatable process
- 00:09:46at acquisition.com we call this the
- 00:09:49value acceleration method the van this
- 00:09:51is like our proprietary process that we
- 00:09:53use to teach people how to scale their
- 00:09:55businesses
- 00:09:57and these are real metrics of the
- 00:09:59businesses in the portfolios that have
- 00:10:01implemented the van
- 00:10:03impressive metrics this is the first
- 00:10:05year and two years of portfolio
- 00:10:07companies working with us I took the
- 00:10:09first six that have been there the
- 00:10:10longest about two years
- 00:10:12that's actually their profit growth
- 00:10:152.6 X 2.8 x 9.8 x that one was a good
- 00:10:19one
- 00:10:21and so our average stats for the first
- 00:10:23year are that we 1.8 x revenue and we
- 00:10:263.8 X 3.0 whatever 3x profit whereas the
- 00:10:32second year it's about 2.3 x in revenue
- 00:10:34and 4.7 x profit
- 00:10:38so I'd say that it works pretty well
- 00:10:41maybe interesting yeah I don't know I
- 00:10:44can just walk off stage
- 00:10:47so okay what I want to explain is that
- 00:10:49the van comes down to three things right
- 00:10:51it's the who it's the what and it's the
- 00:10:53how
- 00:10:54today we only have time to talk about
- 00:10:56one of them so we're going to talk about
- 00:10:58The Who
- 00:11:00so let's Dive In
- 00:11:02all right if you can acquire customers
- 00:11:05you can acquire Talent
- 00:11:08I know
- 00:11:10and there are three Key activities that
- 00:11:12are in the tile and acquisition funnel I
- 00:11:14showed these earlier there's application
- 00:11:15generation there's applicant nurture and
- 00:11:18then there's the interview process
- 00:11:21so first we're going to start with
- 00:11:22applicant generation and if you guys are
- 00:11:25note takers this is when I would start
- 00:11:26taking notes because I am trying to give
- 00:11:28you the tactics of how you can actually
- 00:11:30scale your business I'm not trying to
- 00:11:31give you fluff up here
- 00:11:34so Legion getting people to want to work
- 00:11:36for you right that's what I would
- 00:11:38consider it to be is if you can market
- 00:11:40and find customers then you can market
- 00:11:43and recruit Talent
- 00:11:45it is literally the same skill set and I
- 00:11:47talk to marketing Centric CEOs all day
- 00:11:49who don't believe me when I say you
- 00:11:52already have the skill set to build a
- 00:11:53team and they're like there's like
- 00:11:55marketing and making this and do that
- 00:11:57I'm like that is what is needed to
- 00:11:59acquire Talent is the same let me show
- 00:12:00you
- 00:12:01the job title is as important in
- 00:12:04capturing the attention of your
- 00:12:05applicants as the headline is in
- 00:12:07capturing the attention in your ads it
- 00:12:10is literally one for one
- 00:12:12so think about this right this is an ad
- 00:12:13from gym launch there's kale CEO of gym
- 00:12:15launch
- 00:12:17um gym owners we call them out
- 00:12:19just like you call someone out in your
- 00:12:21ads we're like who am I speaking to
- 00:12:24what does this person already call
- 00:12:26themselves that is exactly what you're
- 00:12:28doing when you're putting together a job
- 00:12:29title people don't even think about this
- 00:12:31that way they're like what do I need oh
- 00:12:33I need a blank that's what I'm gonna go
- 00:12:35hire for but the question is not what do
- 00:12:37I need the question is the type of
- 00:12:38person I'm looking for what do they call
- 00:12:40themselves because what they call
- 00:12:42themselves might not be what I call them
- 00:12:45and so there's two pieces that go into
- 00:12:47this and understanding it there's the ad
- 00:12:49itself and then there's the distribution
- 00:12:51of the ad kind of like if you're doing
- 00:12:53Facebook there's the ad there's the
- 00:12:54picture there's the copy there's all the
- 00:12:56aspects of it and then there's where are
- 00:12:58you going to distribute it right which
- 00:12:59is like optimizing it where are you
- 00:13:01placing it all that stuff the same goes
- 00:13:03for recruiting when it comes to lead
- 00:13:05generation
- 00:13:06so for the ad this is what most people
- 00:13:09do one they do not relate it to
- 00:13:11marketing so they don't think about it
- 00:13:12in marketing terms at all the first
- 00:13:14thing you have to understand is this is
- 00:13:16marketing big companies Market to get
- 00:13:19employees not just customers and so most
- 00:13:22people what they do is they make it
- 00:13:24extremely vague and they forget the
- 00:13:26audience that they're talking to
- 00:13:27oftentimes I'll see people that are
- 00:13:29trying to recruit for example an
- 00:13:31executive level person because maybe
- 00:13:32you're a small company you're growing
- 00:13:33you're like I need some help and I read
- 00:13:35the ad and I was like that sounds like
- 00:13:37something that would be on Craigslist
- 00:13:39like it's kind of skimmy right so you
- 00:13:41have to understand the audience you're
- 00:13:42talking to is the first piece the second
- 00:13:44piece is that people always include
- 00:13:46abbreviations because they're not paying
- 00:13:48attention
- 00:13:48they use Insider language and idioms
- 00:13:51that nobody else can understand and then
- 00:13:53they include way too many words because
- 00:13:54they're not being concise
- 00:13:56and so here's what we do and I'll give
- 00:13:58you some examples the first one is you
- 00:14:00have to be incredibly specific there are
- 00:14:03so many specificity specificity I can't
- 00:14:05say the word around jobs that you really
- 00:14:07have to understand and Target in to who
- 00:14:09you're talking to
- 00:14:10the second is that you want to spell it
- 00:14:11out because a lot of people use
- 00:14:13abbreviations and I'm telling you like
- 00:14:14this is a small thing but if you use any
- 00:14:17abbreviations across a platform you're
- 00:14:18going to get down regulated indeed
- 00:14:20LinkedIn monster Glassdoor literally all
- 00:14:22of them
- 00:14:23the third is that you have to speak from
- 00:14:25a place of assuming nobody knows you and
- 00:14:27has any idea what the [ __ ] your job is
- 00:14:29talking about because most people that
- 00:14:30are going to read a thing then you're
- 00:14:32going to get on with them and they're
- 00:14:33like wait I said customer service and
- 00:14:35you worked at a gas station
- 00:14:37what that's what happens all the time
- 00:14:40and the last piece is that you want to
- 00:14:41cut the fat and you want to make sure
- 00:14:43that you're not using excess terms and
- 00:14:45they're actually getting straight to the
- 00:14:46point so I'll give you some actual
- 00:14:47examples of how I've seen this in our
- 00:14:49portfolio companies because they haven't
- 00:14:51been able to acquire talent for these
- 00:14:52exact reasons first so one example was
- 00:14:55somebody was looking for an analyst they
- 00:14:57could not get anybody every time they
- 00:14:58got on the phone with somebody it was
- 00:15:00like some dude that just graduated
- 00:15:01college or even high school or someone
- 00:15:03that was just doing an internship and he
- 00:15:04was like I just can't get an analyst and
- 00:15:06I was like that's because it's a senior
- 00:15:08financial analyst
- 00:15:10be specific the moment I'm not kidding
- 00:15:13you literally the next day he got 50
- 00:15:15applications and out of 50 about 20 of
- 00:15:17them were qualified the actual ratio
- 00:15:20typically would be that 5 out of 50
- 00:15:21would be qualified this time there were
- 00:15:2220 because he was so specific in what he
- 00:15:24needed
- 00:15:25so when you're titling jobs we have to
- 00:15:27understand it's the same as the headline
- 00:15:29in an ad you need to be so specific in
- 00:15:30calling out the avatar
- 00:15:33the second one
- 00:15:35simply said don't abbreviate
- 00:15:37senior customer success manager like
- 00:15:39abbreviating senior and manager again
- 00:15:41you're down regulating yourself on all
- 00:15:43the platforms and they're not going to
- 00:15:44show you they're not going to give you
- 00:15:46as much distribution and they're not
- 00:15:47going to show you to all the different
- 00:15:48eyeballs
- 00:15:51third is using Insider language so this
- 00:15:54is actually a real example I have a
- 00:15:56portfolio company that said hey Layla we
- 00:15:58want to hire for student happiness lead
- 00:15:59and I was like the [ __ ] is the student
- 00:16:01happiness lead and they were like what's
- 00:16:04this I mean it's amazing like they just
- 00:16:05do all the stuff for our customers and
- 00:16:07like they're like making sure the
- 00:16:08customers are happy and like measuring
- 00:16:09kpis and like that they use the product
- 00:16:10and like getting them consume it and I
- 00:16:12was like yeah that's ahead of customer
- 00:16:13success and they're like well we don't
- 00:16:15say customer and I was like nobody that
- 00:16:19is looking for a job is going to have
- 00:16:21any idea what the [ __ ] a student
- 00:16:22happiness lead is
- 00:16:25and they were like hmm because they
- 00:16:27couldn't fill this role for like three
- 00:16:28weeks and I was like let's just change
- 00:16:29it just try it I'll pay for it for all I
- 00:16:31care literally again the moment that
- 00:16:34they changed it they got the guy within
- 00:16:35a week and he is still there today
- 00:16:36crushing it
- 00:16:39customer support representative customer
- 00:16:42support Rockstar again I think it's I
- 00:16:44think what I would say here is don't be
- 00:16:45cute so back when I started gym launch
- 00:16:48in 2016 when I was running it and I was
- 00:16:50recruiting using the words like Rockstar
- 00:16:52and Superstar it was actually like
- 00:16:53really helpful like I got more people to
- 00:16:55apply people thought it was cool they
- 00:16:57were like I love that you're like so
- 00:16:58pro-employee now people look at it and
- 00:17:00they're just like that's disgusting it's
- 00:17:01scammy it's gross the platforms all down
- 00:17:04regulate you now so even if you think
- 00:17:06it's cool Glassdoor LinkedIn indeed
- 00:17:09monster they don't think it's cool
- 00:17:10anymore
- 00:17:11so don't use those kind of terms when
- 00:17:13you're recruiting for people
- 00:17:16and lastly is this one I see a lot is
- 00:17:19that Everyone likes to put how much
- 00:17:20someone's gonna make in the title 100K
- 00:17:23minimum base for a sales rep this is the
- 00:17:24most common one I see again I don't know
- 00:17:27if like anyone knows this I have people
- 00:17:28that worked at Lincoln that I talk to
- 00:17:30You're Gonna Get Down regulated and
- 00:17:32sometimes they're going to be in your
- 00:17:33account forever so when you're
- 00:17:34advertising to acquire people you can't
- 00:17:36put that in the title
- 00:17:39and not long ago I was reminded of this
- 00:17:42myself because I was looking for what I
- 00:17:44called a customer success executive for
- 00:17:46acquisition.com and I put it out there
- 00:17:48and I was like I need this person like
- 00:17:50this is what they're gonna do blah blah
- 00:17:51blah and I was super excited I put it
- 00:17:53out and I was like you know we have more
- 00:17:54brand now and we have all this like I'm
- 00:17:55definitely going to get someone who's
- 00:17:56super qualified
- 00:17:58and I put it out there and I got jack
- 00:18:00[ __ ] is like the people I did get I was
- 00:18:02like worked at Verizon I was like what
- 00:18:04the hell I'm just like sitting there
- 00:18:05pissed off and I'm like okay I need to
- 00:18:07use my own methodology to think this
- 00:18:10through
- 00:18:11and so I realized that nobody that wants
- 00:18:14to work at a PE firm has ever and ever
- 00:18:16will call themselves a customer success
- 00:18:18executive has anyone here heard of
- 00:18:20someone that works at PE firm called a
- 00:18:21customer success executive
- 00:18:23no
- 00:18:24I felt like such an idiot but I did it
- 00:18:26myself so then I did some research and I
- 00:18:28realized it was actually called a
- 00:18:29portfolio operating partner and as soon
- 00:18:31as I did that and I changed the title I
- 00:18:33got inundated with applications and I
- 00:18:35filled the role immediately
- 00:18:38and so the bottom line when it comes to
- 00:18:40generating
- 00:18:41interest to work for you is that you
- 00:18:44need to understand who you're talking to
- 00:18:45just like if you were advertising you
- 00:18:48could probably some of you who are
- 00:18:48really good at marketing you could look
- 00:18:49at someone's funnel and be like dude
- 00:18:50it's so clear you don't know who you're
- 00:18:52talking to it is the same when you're
- 00:18:54trying to get people to work for you if
- 00:18:55you don't know who you're talking to
- 00:18:57they're not the right person will never
- 00:18:58come to you
- 00:19:01and so that is what the ad looks like
- 00:19:04right those are the components of it but
- 00:19:06what about the distribution of the ad
- 00:19:08where where do you get the eyeballs
- 00:19:10so here's what most people do most
- 00:19:13people ask their Network
- 00:19:15I would say that 95 of businesses that
- 00:19:18are doing below
- 00:19:202 million a year that I talk to when I
- 00:19:22say how do you acquire people to work
- 00:19:24for you and maybe even below 3 million a
- 00:19:25year they just say I reach out to my
- 00:19:28network
- 00:19:28okay here's why that doesn't work and is
- 00:19:31not a good idea by the way I've done
- 00:19:33this myself so I can tell you firsthand
- 00:19:34is that one you're going to exhaust this
- 00:19:37quickly it's not like you can actually
- 00:19:39continue to ask your network over and
- 00:19:40over and over again and the good sources
- 00:19:42are going to get annoyed that you do
- 00:19:44the second is that you are so much more
- 00:19:47likely to give someone the job who's not
- 00:19:49actually qualified for the job because
- 00:19:51your selection pool is so small
- 00:19:54and then lastly is that you don't have
- 00:19:56enough selection to make it a hard
- 00:19:58choice
- 00:19:59and what you want is that you want it
- 00:20:01ideally in any scenario so like when
- 00:20:03we're recruiting for our portfolio
- 00:20:04companies I say I'm going to bring you
- 00:20:05two to three highly qualified candidates
- 00:20:07that I think it could be hard for you to
- 00:20:09pick from
- 00:20:10and that is when people actually make
- 00:20:11good decisions
- 00:20:13and so just like you wouldn't rely on
- 00:20:15your network to get you clients why
- 00:20:18would you rely on your network to get
- 00:20:19you employees
- 00:20:21something I I just want to hammer home
- 00:20:23and so here's what we actually do
- 00:20:25instead there's six ways six not five to
- 00:20:29get new employees one is your network
- 00:20:32okay there are certain rules that it's
- 00:20:34going to be easier through a network
- 00:20:35specifically if they're industry
- 00:20:37specific roles right those are the ones
- 00:20:39that you typically want to look at your
- 00:20:40network for now the second and the one
- 00:20:42that I like the most is cold reach outs
- 00:20:44just like you would cold reach out if
- 00:20:46you're looking for an Enterprise client
- 00:20:47like say you're in software and you're
- 00:20:49like I need an Enterprise client who's
- 00:20:51doing between x and x and revenue and
- 00:20:53they're this kind of software company
- 00:20:54you're not going to put out an ad
- 00:20:56necessarily for that because it's
- 00:20:57actually probably going to cost you more
- 00:20:58to run an ad than it would to just do
- 00:21:00cold outbound so I'm going to do cold
- 00:21:02Outreach for specific positions that are
- 00:21:04hard to find
- 00:21:06then we've got paid ads so high volume
- 00:21:09transactional positions are best run
- 00:21:12with paid ads so an example we were
- 00:21:14actually talking about this last night
- 00:21:15is like Molly Maids for example how does
- 00:21:17Molly Maids beat so many people in the
- 00:21:19cleaning industry because they can
- 00:21:20acquire employees
- 00:21:22the hardest thing about the cleaning
- 00:21:24industry is that it's hard to get people
- 00:21:25to work for you and actually stay there
- 00:21:27and that's what they do really well
- 00:21:30the fourth is your content and following
- 00:21:32how many people here have a Following on
- 00:21:35the social medias
- 00:21:38okay well if you do
- 00:21:40um you can always post there and
- 00:21:41sometimes you know different people have
- 00:21:42different kind of segments in their
- 00:21:45following like Alex for example if we
- 00:21:46post for a sales role we're just going
- 00:21:47to get inundated with people because a
- 00:21:49lot of people follow them for sale stuff
- 00:21:50so knowing you're following what kind of
- 00:21:52people live in there
- 00:21:54five is recruiters so recruiters again
- 00:21:58this is a useful tool if you're a small
- 00:22:01company if you don't have a brand and
- 00:22:04you don't know how to go do it yourself
- 00:22:05right and maybe you actually have the
- 00:22:07money so if you have the cash flow you
- 00:22:09don't have the time and you don't have
- 00:22:10the brand recruiters are a good option
- 00:22:11to acquire Talent
- 00:22:14and then lastly is team referrals
- 00:22:16because people that you acquire through
- 00:22:19other good employees are five times more
- 00:22:21likely to be a fit than those who aren't
- 00:22:25and I say that we should use all of
- 00:22:27these methods because what I lived the
- 00:22:29first time that we built gym launch I
- 00:22:31say the first time because I literally
- 00:22:33feel like the thing got reincarnated
- 00:22:34like multiple times because we had to
- 00:22:37turn over the team the first team that I
- 00:22:39built I literally built through my
- 00:22:41entire network when I said that we flew
- 00:22:43out six sales guys to those locations
- 00:22:45those were my friends from college
- 00:22:47just all six of them my friends from
- 00:22:49college and then what they did was they
- 00:22:51brought more of my friends and more of
- 00:22:52my network and then what happened was
- 00:22:54the first probably 30 people that worked
- 00:22:56for our company were just purely from my
- 00:22:58network
- 00:22:59and the thing was is that one day what
- 00:23:02happens is that eventually you realize
- 00:23:03when you start to understand what real
- 00:23:05talent looks like is that you've been
- 00:23:06compromising
- 00:23:08and if you have reach and if you have
- 00:23:10distribution and if you have options you
- 00:23:13don't need to compromise
- 00:23:16and for me as soon as I started using
- 00:23:17these six methods and understanding how
- 00:23:19to utilize each one that is when I was
- 00:23:22able to actually get the generation of
- 00:23:23the applicant flow that I wanted
- 00:23:25and so the bottom line is that you want
- 00:23:27to use every method possible and you
- 00:23:29want to make sure you know what tool
- 00:23:30you're using for what problem you're
- 00:23:31solving and so you want to make sure
- 00:23:33that you cast the wide net and create
- 00:23:35Endless Options the reason that people
- 00:23:37don't have good teams is not because
- 00:23:39they don't necessarily know what good
- 00:23:41looks like it's also because they don't
- 00:23:42have the options if you had 2 000 people
- 00:23:45apply for a job do you think you would
- 00:23:46have somebody better in that position
- 00:23:48than you do now
- 00:23:49probably
- 00:23:51Endless Options is what you want
- 00:23:54and so those are the two pieces to
- 00:23:56application generation we've got the ad
- 00:23:58and we've got the distribution
- 00:24:00okay if you do those two things together
- 00:24:02you're getting a [ __ ] ton of qualified
- 00:24:04applicants
- 00:24:06so the second piece that goes to this is
- 00:24:09applicant nurture okay
- 00:24:12that is essentially getting them bought
- 00:24:14in before they buy
- 00:24:17interesting stat which is that 68 of
- 00:24:20candidates state that the hiring
- 00:24:22experience has the largest influence on
- 00:24:24whether or not they take the job
- 00:24:27the average hiring process takes 23 days
- 00:24:31the top candidates find a job in eight
- 00:24:35so speed is king during this process I
- 00:24:37can't tell you how many times helping
- 00:24:40our portfolio companies recruit before
- 00:24:42they really get this we lose candidates
- 00:24:44because they say oh it's Friday you know
- 00:24:47let's I we Monday I have so many
- 00:24:49meetings let's wait till Tuesday and I'm
- 00:24:51like they're gonna be [ __ ] gone dude
- 00:24:52happens all the time
- 00:24:55and most people tend to believe that the
- 00:24:57experience is actually the interview
- 00:24:59itself but that's like saying that the
- 00:25:00sales process is the sales call itself
- 00:25:05so there's actually two Frameworks
- 00:25:07around the nurture process and the
- 00:25:09experience for the candidate they're
- 00:25:10sorting and there's communication
- 00:25:13so once you're able to generate demand
- 00:25:15for talent the first thing you want to
- 00:25:16do is sort right
- 00:25:18and this is what most people do is they
- 00:25:20don't actually read the resumes because
- 00:25:22that would be boring and take a lot of
- 00:25:24time
- 00:25:24they don't actually look at the past
- 00:25:26experience and make sure the person's
- 00:25:27work there because again that would be
- 00:25:29very boring and take a lot of time
- 00:25:31they don't read how long someone's been
- 00:25:33at different jobs because again reading
- 00:25:36and they disregard people who job hop
- 00:25:38around because they rationalize why that
- 00:25:40person would do that in their own mind
- 00:25:41they're like maybe they're
- 00:25:42entrepreneurial like me well then
- 00:25:43probably don't have them work for you
- 00:25:45right they ignore the lack of
- 00:25:47progression and they ignore the obvious
- 00:25:49red flags
- 00:25:50we're always justifying because
- 00:25:52typically when you're looking for
- 00:25:53someone you're in so much pain that you
- 00:25:55don't want to pay attention to this [ __ ]
- 00:25:57I know because I've done it
- 00:25:59and so here's what we do now one we read
- 00:26:02every resume thoroughly I hate it but I
- 00:26:06still do it
- 00:26:07the second is I'm going to take out
- 00:26:09anybody who has unmatched experience who
- 00:26:11job hops who's never moved up who hasn't
- 00:26:14done the job in a long time in a place
- 00:26:16similar to ours
- 00:26:18okay you have to be picky and it's funny
- 00:26:21because a lot of people like oh Layla I
- 00:26:22can't do this anymore like I've been
- 00:26:24looking for four weeks I'm like four
- 00:26:25weeks it took me five months just now to
- 00:26:27find my director of people
- 00:26:28but now she's perfect she's the exact
- 00:26:31fit I need this could take months and
- 00:26:34that's okay
- 00:26:36because it costs you more to do it the
- 00:26:38other way to hire the wrong person and
- 00:26:39have to fill it over and over again
- 00:26:40until eventually you do find the right
- 00:26:42person because eventually you take my
- 00:26:43advice and wait and find someone who's a
- 00:26:45good fit
- 00:26:46and so what's left when you do this is
- 00:26:49you have people with perfect experience
- 00:26:51who have grown in their role who stay at
- 00:26:53their jobs for a long time who don't jot
- 00:26:54pop and who are focused in really just
- 00:26:56one line of work
- 00:26:58and How likely do you think it is that
- 00:27:00you could find a winner at that point
- 00:27:03Maybe
- 00:27:05[ __ ] it
- 00:27:06Ferry
- 00:27:08and so just so you guys understand
- 00:27:10because when I'm telling you this this
- 00:27:12is a volume game
- 00:27:14for every 100 applications that I get
- 00:27:16only two to three of them even get past
- 00:27:19the screening phase if I get 100
- 00:27:21applications I screen typically seven to
- 00:27:23nine and then maybe two to three get
- 00:27:26past it
- 00:27:27typically I spend maybe two thousand
- 00:27:29dollars on any like any given role at
- 00:27:31any point in time and that's not an
- 00:27:33executive role and that's in terms of
- 00:27:35how much I'm spending putting behind it
- 00:27:36trying to get applications
- 00:27:39and so you have to understand again this
- 00:27:41is a volume game you want to create
- 00:27:43Endless Options and if you don't do that
- 00:27:45and you're like I'm just gonna like put
- 00:27:46something on you know just get a few or
- 00:27:48like you we have 10 people to choose
- 00:27:49from that's not it you want hundreds
- 00:27:51maybe even thousands to choose from
- 00:27:53depending on what kind of role it is
- 00:27:57and so what that leads us to is now that
- 00:27:59you understand the volume game and
- 00:28:01sorting those things is how do we get in
- 00:28:03touch with them
- 00:28:06communication
- 00:28:08here's what most people do
- 00:28:10somebody applies for this role or you're
- 00:28:13creating the communication Cadence
- 00:28:15around what you do once someone applies
- 00:28:17and these are the thoughts that we think
- 00:28:19to ourselves we think if they really
- 00:28:20want this job they're going to do these
- 00:28:2227 steps I'm putting in place here
- 00:28:23they're like I'm gonna make it [ __ ]
- 00:28:25harder for them yeah I'm only going to
- 00:28:26get the good ones right
- 00:28:28then you're like oh my God I emailed
- 00:28:30them and they didn't email me back [ __ ]
- 00:28:32them
- 00:28:33right piece of [ __ ]
- 00:28:35and you're like I don't need to follow
- 00:28:37up they should want this job right they
- 00:28:40should already know who I am right
- 00:28:44and we don't want to give any
- 00:28:45communication on next steps because they
- 00:28:48should know what to do because obviously
- 00:28:49this isn't complicated
- 00:28:51and we should go slow because we're very
- 00:28:53busy and important
- 00:28:55and we should make it again extra extra
- 00:28:57complicated so we only get the Smart
- 00:28:59Ones
- 00:29:01that's what most people do here's why
- 00:29:03that doesn't work and like listen I did
- 00:29:05that [ __ ] I was like I'm gonna make it
- 00:29:06so hard for these [ __ ] you know I'm
- 00:29:08only gonna get the Smart Ones
- 00:29:10first is ego thinking people even know
- 00:29:13who you are
- 00:29:14listen like I mean some people might
- 00:29:16think like we have somewhat of a brand
- 00:29:17and I get on the phone with people all
- 00:29:18the time and even my damn employees now
- 00:29:20they're like oh it's so funny all these
- 00:29:21people think on Instagram you're so cool
- 00:29:23it's like [ __ ] you know
- 00:29:27the second is laziness making a good
- 00:29:30process is hard saying people are stupid
- 00:29:32is easy
- 00:29:33so what we do is we just blame them
- 00:29:35we're like [ __ ] who do you can't even
- 00:29:36apply for the job like it looks like a
- 00:29:39piece of [ __ ] I don't even know how to
- 00:29:40read what you just put on this job
- 00:29:41application like nobody even knows what
- 00:29:43that question means
- 00:29:46the third is assumptions
- 00:29:48which is assuming that all this Pearson
- 00:29:50is thinking about is working for you the
- 00:29:52reality is in the market today that is
- 00:29:54not the case people have a lot of
- 00:29:56options and you're not just competing
- 00:29:57against the people next to you you're
- 00:29:59competing against them having their own
- 00:30:01business of their own them doing side
- 00:30:03work them being a virtual something for
- 00:30:05there's so many different ways people
- 00:30:07can't make money now that you're not
- 00:30:09just competing against the other people
- 00:30:10who want to pay them you're competing as
- 00:30:11the other options they have for
- 00:30:12themselves
- 00:30:15and then lastly is again Distortion
- 00:30:17which is assuming they don't have other
- 00:30:19options and here's the thing if somebody
- 00:30:21doesn't have other options I wouldn't
- 00:30:22[ __ ] hire them
- 00:30:24probably means they suck
- 00:30:27and so here's what you want to do it is
- 00:30:30not just a customer experience in your
- 00:30:31business there's a candidate experience
- 00:30:33in your business
- 00:30:36and the candidate experience really
- 00:30:38composite is comprised of these four
- 00:30:40things the first is speed
- 00:30:42write this down same day next day
- 00:30:45would you let a lead sit in your funnel
- 00:30:47for more than 24 hours if you win your
- 00:30:49your CRM right now and you looked and
- 00:30:51your sales guy hadn't followed up with
- 00:30:52the lead and that lead came in 24 hours
- 00:30:54ago how would you feel you'd be [ __ ]
- 00:30:56pissed right
- 00:30:57be like what the hell go work that lead
- 00:30:58yet for some reason people put up ads
- 00:31:01they do post they do all this work to
- 00:31:03get job applicants and then when they
- 00:31:04get people and they're like yeah I'm
- 00:31:05gonna go check that on Friday I'm like
- 00:31:07what the [ __ ] like these are hot leads
- 00:31:09like these are hot leads same day next
- 00:31:12day
- 00:31:14the second is volume it's understanding
- 00:31:17on average right now acquisition.com to
- 00:31:20fill any role that is management level
- 00:31:22and above gets over 500 applications for
- 00:31:25that role
- 00:31:26that is how we are so picky minimum of
- 00:31:29500.
- 00:31:31so just think on that level if you had
- 00:31:33500 people to choose from what would
- 00:31:35that look like and what do you need to
- 00:31:37do to generate that 500 it's not always
- 00:31:39easy sometimes you have to use all six
- 00:31:41methods
- 00:31:45the third is personalizing your
- 00:31:47messaging
- 00:31:48so again if we're thinking about a
- 00:31:50really high ticket client that we're
- 00:31:52trying to attract or we're trying to
- 00:31:53sell are you going to send them an
- 00:31:55automated text message to ask them if
- 00:31:57they want to get on a phone call if that
- 00:31:59client's worth say two hundred thousand
- 00:32:01dollars a year is that what you're going
- 00:32:02to do is that how you're going to treat
- 00:32:03them
- 00:32:04no you're gonna be like sales dude make
- 00:32:06a [ __ ] custom video something they
- 00:32:08didn't respond cool find them on
- 00:32:09LinkedIn glass door like find them on
- 00:32:11all the platforms hit them up hunt them
- 00:32:13down
- 00:32:14you have to do the same with Talent
- 00:32:17so like people will tell me they're like
- 00:32:18well they didn't respond to my email I'm
- 00:32:20like [ __ ] go message them on
- 00:32:21LinkedIn go find them on Facebook
- 00:32:23[ __ ] find their number on somewhere
- 00:32:25people find mine all the time right
- 00:32:27there's so many ways you can get a hold
- 00:32:29of people
- 00:32:31and that brings me to omnichannel which
- 00:32:33again is just getting a hold of people
- 00:32:35on all the platforms that they live on
- 00:32:37showing someone especially guys if
- 00:32:39you're a small business if you're doing
- 00:32:41Less Than 3 million per year
- 00:32:43you're lucky to get top talent to work
- 00:32:45for you and I hate [ __ ] saying that
- 00:32:47but I work with business of that size
- 00:32:49all the time it is hard to get talent to
- 00:32:51work there they have big corporations
- 00:32:52they could work for that are going to
- 00:32:53give them six grand a year to go work
- 00:32:55out at a gym they have so many things
- 00:32:58that are offered in different places
- 00:32:59that when we're small and we're trying
- 00:33:01to get Talent we have to follow up like
- 00:33:03we mean it
- 00:33:07and so that is the communication side
- 00:33:09we've got sorting and we've got
- 00:33:10communication right
- 00:33:12so if you get a hold of the best
- 00:33:14candidates fast using the two of those
- 00:33:16pieces
- 00:33:17so here's what actually happened when we
- 00:33:19did this with one of our companies okay
- 00:33:21this is a true real case study
- 00:33:23so we had a business it was a course
- 00:33:25business and it was on decline when they
- 00:33:27came to us their revenue is down about
- 00:33:29like 60 it's a lot I was kind of nervous
- 00:33:33um it was at like 1.8 a month when we
- 00:33:36started everything was on fire like I
- 00:33:38looked inside and I was like I have a
- 00:33:40headache and I feel sick to my stomach
- 00:33:41right
- 00:33:43but we knew that there were five very
- 00:33:46key missing rules to that business it
- 00:33:48was a CFO it was a CS lead it was a tech
- 00:33:51lead it was a CEO and it was a VP of
- 00:33:54sales
- 00:33:55we're like okay if we can get those
- 00:33:57people and we can implement this process
- 00:33:59in there
- 00:34:00we can fix this business because they
- 00:34:01can't do it alone
- 00:34:04over the next six months we kicked off
- 00:34:06recruiting process for all those five
- 00:34:08roles we were like we're gonna film
- 00:34:09immediately
- 00:34:10fill the slots within six months the CEO
- 00:34:13felt immense relief because he used to
- 00:34:14feel like everything was on his
- 00:34:16shoulders he was in constant pain like
- 00:34:17he was like I want to close my business
- 00:34:18I hate this blah blah they are now at 12
- 00:34:21million per month
- 00:34:2218 months later
- 00:34:25this [ __ ] works when you're not in pain
- 00:34:27all the time you can actually grow your
- 00:34:30business because you have help
- 00:34:35and honestly not everyone's going to
- 00:34:37explode like him but even if you got
- 00:34:39like a tenth of the explosion I think
- 00:34:41that would be kind of cool
- 00:34:44so that is applicant nurture which
- 00:34:46brings us to the last piece which is the
- 00:34:48interview process AKA sales right which
- 00:34:52is selling them on the vision of the
- 00:34:54company and the impact of the role
- 00:34:56sounds so cheesy when I say it out loud
- 00:34:58but that's what it is
- 00:35:00so just like you sell customers on life
- 00:35:03after they purchase your product you
- 00:35:05also sell employees on life after they
- 00:35:07take a job with your company
- 00:35:10okay so as you level up in your company
- 00:35:12and as you level up in your tenure you
- 00:35:14don't stop selling you change who you
- 00:35:16sell to people say to me all the time
- 00:35:18like oh don't you you know you have a
- 00:35:19background in sales so how's that help
- 00:35:20with building a company I'm like if only
- 00:35:22you knew like you never stop selling
- 00:35:25when you have a company
- 00:35:27and so who here has sold a client but
- 00:35:30you didn't sell them well and so they
- 00:35:32remained like a really shitty client for
- 00:35:33the rest of time that they were with you
- 00:35:34anybody you know that one's always
- 00:35:36grumping you're like [ __ ] we didn't sell
- 00:35:37them right
- 00:35:39that's exactly what you get if you don't
- 00:35:41properly sell an employee
- 00:35:44and so the question is what is the ideal
- 00:35:46sale of an employee look like
- 00:35:49there's two sides to this there's the
- 00:35:52process and then there's what comes out
- 00:35:54of your mouth
- 00:35:55so here's the process
- 00:35:57here's what most people do
- 00:36:00and it's why they can't hire the right
- 00:36:01people
- 00:36:02one is they overestimate their ability
- 00:36:05to judge character something I say all
- 00:36:07the time is I'm like everyone thinks
- 00:36:09they're really good judge of character
- 00:36:10until they've got to hire somebody
- 00:36:11because then you realize you're like
- 00:36:13[ __ ] blow sucks right we all make
- 00:36:16mistakes and we're all biased and that's
- 00:36:18why it's really tough to go like 100 and
- 00:36:21always hire the right people
- 00:36:23the second is that most people only
- 00:36:24conduct one to two interviews that's
- 00:36:27okay for certain roles that are high
- 00:36:28transactional roles that you're safe
- 00:36:30feeling and turning all the time but for
- 00:36:32majority of people building their core
- 00:36:33team doing one to two interviews doesn't
- 00:36:34make sense
- 00:36:36you're not mitigating your risk
- 00:36:39the third is that they typically only
- 00:36:41utilize one person to make the decision
- 00:36:43so I think as Founders as CEOs as
- 00:36:46entrepreneurs typically we feel like
- 00:36:47it's all on us I have to make the
- 00:36:49decision by myself why couldn't you
- 00:36:50bring other people from the team in even
- 00:36:52if they're their peers
- 00:36:54more people making decisions there's
- 00:36:56been tons of studies done on this are
- 00:36:57going to lead to better hiring decisions
- 00:36:59the more people that talk to the
- 00:37:00candidate
- 00:37:02the fourth is that a lot of times we
- 00:37:04delegate this because we're busy to
- 00:37:07somebody who doesn't even understand the
- 00:37:08role and so by default they hire the
- 00:37:10wrong person
- 00:37:12which leads to number five is that most
- 00:37:14people think it is a waste of their time
- 00:37:16to be the one hiring they're like Layla
- 00:37:19I'm [ __ ] generating as deals right
- 00:37:20now I don't have time to hire these
- 00:37:22people
- 00:37:23like okay
- 00:37:25good luck
- 00:37:26100 million
- 00:37:28here's why that doesn't work one is that
- 00:37:31there's a reason the top companies have
- 00:37:32robust interview selection processes in
- 00:37:35fact the top 26 percent of companies
- 00:37:37claim themselves to have world-class
- 00:37:39Talent acquisition processes that is
- 00:37:41contained as one of their strengths this
- 00:37:43is a paper done by McKinsey
- 00:37:45the second is that companies that are
- 00:37:47reacted and fragmented with hiring are
- 00:37:49in the bottom 14 of company performance
- 00:37:52I don't think that's a coincidence
- 00:37:56the third is that 63 of candidates
- 00:37:59reject a job due to lack of information
- 00:38:01during the hiring process
- 00:38:04I see this all the time unfortunately
- 00:38:07and then last is 85 I checked this like
- 00:38:11multiple times 85 percent of people lie
- 00:38:13on their resumes
- 00:38:14I've had that happen to me so many times
- 00:38:16it makes me feel sick
- 00:38:19and so here's what we do to mitigate
- 00:38:21risk and make sure that we get the best
- 00:38:22candidates in once we've selected them
- 00:38:25there's really a five-step process and
- 00:38:27I'll go into more detail the first is
- 00:38:29the screening so just like I I like to
- 00:38:31explain this would you ask a sales rep
- 00:38:34to book somebody on their calendar for
- 00:38:36an hour or 90 minutes without screening
- 00:38:38them
- 00:38:39no so then why would you book an
- 00:38:41interview without screening them making
- 00:38:43our [ __ ] crazy person
- 00:38:45I wouldn't
- 00:38:47screening second expectations and
- 00:38:50culture
- 00:38:52I like to call this a want match which
- 00:38:54is like what I want what you want same
- 00:38:57thing which is like probably like on a
- 00:38:59first date if you're like hey do you
- 00:39:00want kids and he's like hell no you're
- 00:39:02like okay I guess we can go now
- 00:39:05same thing for the first interview it's
- 00:39:07like you want to hit that stuff the hard
- 00:39:09stuff the non-negotiables on that
- 00:39:11interview because you always know
- 00:39:13there's non-negotiables for a role in
- 00:39:15for a company and you need to make sure
- 00:39:16you addresses in the very first
- 00:39:17interview before you put them any
- 00:39:18further and waste anyone else's time
- 00:39:22third is a skill test interview
- 00:39:24people miss this one all the time they
- 00:39:26say Layla how do I test skills for this
- 00:39:28role it's so hard it is not that hard
- 00:39:29let's think of a problem that occurred
- 00:39:31last quarter with somebody that would
- 00:39:33have been this role would have solved
- 00:39:34how would you solve that problem
- 00:39:37fourth and typically the final is an
- 00:39:40alignment interview so I typically
- 00:39:42conduct this interview
- 00:39:44um if we're like a smaller team if it's
- 00:39:47a bigger team might be like the VP of
- 00:39:49whatever Department an alignment
- 00:39:51interview is aligning what's your career
- 00:39:53path what is the career path available
- 00:39:55in this company do they align because I
- 00:39:58always want to make sure if somebody
- 00:39:59comes into our company or into one of
- 00:40:00our portfolio companies that they
- 00:40:02understand what the growth looks like
- 00:40:04and a lot of people end up churning
- 00:40:06because what they thought that they were
- 00:40:07going to end up doing isn't what they're
- 00:40:09doing a year later and so then they did
- 00:40:12and lastly if you're big enough
- 00:40:14and for nods irrelevant there's a CEO
- 00:40:16interview which is meeting with
- 00:40:18essentially the key stakeholder
- 00:40:21and so after implementing this process
- 00:40:24in my last company this was the stats
- 00:40:26that we got which is one we doubled our
- 00:40:28acceptance rate
- 00:40:29probably because they had more
- 00:40:30information they felt like they knew
- 00:40:32multiple people in the company they felt
- 00:40:33like they had more information about the
- 00:40:34job
- 00:40:3650 turnover reduction
- 00:40:39that's a lot of money saved and then a
- 00:40:41hundred percent time to productivity
- 00:40:43increase
- 00:40:44timed productivity is basically the time
- 00:40:46it takes to get someone productive in
- 00:40:47the roles that they're actually taking
- 00:40:48it over
- 00:40:50this saves money
- 00:40:52more money good as Zach says if you're
- 00:40:54watching this sec
- 00:40:56and so the bottom line is that it costs
- 00:40:58you more money not to do this than to
- 00:41:00actually do it
- 00:41:01the thing is is that in the short term
- 00:41:03not doing this feels like it's saving
- 00:41:05you money and time but I can tell you
- 00:41:07that in the long term is costing you
- 00:41:09money and adding so much time to how
- 00:41:12long it's going to take to grow your
- 00:41:12company
- 00:41:15and so this really brings us to the last
- 00:41:17element which is I went through the
- 00:41:18process but the question is what do you
- 00:41:20actually say to the people when you're
- 00:41:21on with them because that's where
- 00:41:22everyone gets stuck I can online this
- 00:41:23whole thing everyone comes up to like
- 00:41:24Layla what do I ask what's the top
- 00:41:25question right
- 00:41:28so it's the scripting
- 00:41:30the first is the screening
- 00:41:32clarify the role and what the company
- 00:41:34does I have a little Spiel I give so the
- 00:41:37first thing I do when I get on the phone
- 00:41:38with anybody is I'm like
- 00:41:40I'm Layla from acquisition.com here's my
- 00:41:41little backstory blah blah here's what
- 00:41:42the role does every single time it's
- 00:41:44like I've got like a 60 to 90 seconds
- 00:41:46feel I just want to clarify
- 00:41:49then you want to go into basically
- 00:41:52making sure that they're not a weirdo
- 00:41:54and not expecting something completely
- 00:41:56weird
- 00:41:57um so you know what attracted you apply
- 00:41:59for this company I've gotten it plenty
- 00:42:00of times where it's like you know
- 00:42:02virtual work you always work less I'm
- 00:42:04like all right [ __ ] me
- 00:42:06um you know are you flexible to
- 00:42:08traveling maybe they have to travel for
- 00:42:10the role if they're like hell no you're
- 00:42:11like see you later
- 00:42:13like just making sure that those things
- 00:42:15don't get through because there's no
- 00:42:16point taking an interview with somebody
- 00:42:17who doesn't fit the basics of the role
- 00:42:20the second one the expectations culture
- 00:42:22interview that I talked about you guys
- 00:42:23should screenshot this if you interview
- 00:42:25um is again one clarify the role in the
- 00:42:28company notice that this is gonna be
- 00:42:29through every interview you're always
- 00:42:30going to be clarifying the role in the
- 00:42:31company you don't want them to come in
- 00:42:33and be like I didn't realize this is
- 00:42:34what I'd be doing and this was the
- 00:42:35company it's like I said to you five
- 00:42:36[ __ ] times
- 00:42:38like it's on recording like we have done
- 00:42:39this
- 00:42:42but really here what you want to do is
- 00:42:43you want to dig into not just the
- 00:42:45expectations but the culture are they
- 00:42:46culture fit like what do they like the
- 00:42:48most and the least about their last few
- 00:42:50roles
- 00:42:51because like some people I'll be like
- 00:42:52what do you like the most about your
- 00:42:53world they're like well I loved that I
- 00:42:55was a manager and because of that I
- 00:42:56didn't have to work as much and I'm like
- 00:42:57okay
- 00:42:59I'm gonna go
- 00:43:00right what's your ideal day look like
- 00:43:03they're like
- 00:43:04I feel like three hours is my Optimum
- 00:43:06working time I'm like I'm just gonna
- 00:43:08kill myself
- 00:43:09I'm like probably not a fits we're all
- 00:43:12working 50 hours a day
- 00:43:13right so you just want to make sure if
- 00:43:15somebody's not a culture fit and they
- 00:43:16don't meet your expectations they're not
- 00:43:18moving them on
- 00:43:19and if you move them on this is to the
- 00:43:21skill test which is a skill test I
- 00:43:22actually think is the easiest interview
- 00:43:24which is literally this is what you're
- 00:43:25gonna do you're gonna think okay what is
- 00:43:27this role doing what are the problems
- 00:43:29that I had last quarter or in the last
- 00:43:31six months that if this person was there
- 00:43:33they would have been the one solving
- 00:43:35bring those like scenarios to the
- 00:43:37interview and say how would you do this
- 00:43:39here's the problem what would you do
- 00:43:42right so it could be something like you
- 00:43:45know you're hiring a it integrator I
- 00:43:47don't know head of IT Integrations I
- 00:43:49don't know some [ __ ] like that some tech
- 00:43:50role right and so you're like hey we get
- 00:43:53every time someone opts in for something
- 00:43:54we actually get five duplications of it
- 00:43:56in our CRM how are you gonna fix it that
- 00:43:59was a real life one that I actually did
- 00:44:00on an interview and there was like three
- 00:44:01people that just
- 00:44:04I was like all right [ __ ] I guess I need
- 00:44:06to find somebody else until I found the
- 00:44:08person I was actually able to fix the
- 00:44:09problem and if they can solve the
- 00:44:11problem in the seal test interview most
- 00:44:13likely they can do it when they come in
- 00:44:15that's my favorite interview
- 00:44:18and then there's the alignment interview
- 00:44:19right which is understanding a couple
- 00:44:21things one I like to understand I'm like
- 00:44:24what kind of compensation do people like
- 00:44:25does it excite them
- 00:44:28like do they get excited for salary do
- 00:44:30they get excited for performance some
- 00:44:32people I have that I present packages to
- 00:44:35where it's like you know medium salary
- 00:44:36and then like crazy high performance and
- 00:44:38they're not excited because they're more
- 00:44:40security driven I can easily take some
- 00:44:42of that performance and put it to their
- 00:44:43base
- 00:44:46and then understanding you know what's
- 00:44:48their interpretation of work from home
- 00:44:50that's a big one you'd be surprised how
- 00:44:51many people I'm sure a lot of you just
- 00:44:53do work from home in your remote you
- 00:44:54don't have offices the amount of people
- 00:44:56that work from home is so different for
- 00:44:57that's such an important question to ask
- 00:45:00and then discussing benefits going over
- 00:45:01the onboarding plan all the other boring
- 00:45:03[ __ ]
- 00:45:05and if you're big enough including a CEO
- 00:45:07interview which is essentially the top
- 00:45:08person in the company is also going to
- 00:45:09interview them basically paint the
- 00:45:11vision of the company for them edify the
- 00:45:13role edify the position explain the
- 00:45:14career path
- 00:45:17and so the bottom line that I hope
- 00:45:20you're getting from this is that you
- 00:45:21want to have a script and an objective
- 00:45:23for each interview
- 00:45:25when you say the right things and have a
- 00:45:27clear objective you push the wrong
- 00:45:29people out and you're going to pull the
- 00:45:30right people in
- 00:45:33and if you script and choreograph a
- 00:45:35sales process to acquire clients then
- 00:45:38you can script and choreograph an
- 00:45:39interview process to acquire Talent
- 00:45:42think about the same thing you don't
- 00:45:43send a sales guy he comes in he's never
- 00:45:45trained before you put him on a call
- 00:45:47with no script Nobody Does that so why
- 00:45:49would you put other people on calls or
- 00:45:51even yourself without a script for the
- 00:45:52hiring process
- 00:45:54you don't there has to be an objective
- 00:45:56there's a purpose there needs to be an
- 00:45:57outcome
- 00:46:00so I really love this quote Mark Cuban
- 00:46:02learn to sell in business you're always
- 00:46:03selling prospects investors employees to
- 00:46:06be the best sales person you have to put
- 00:46:07yourself in the shoes of the person
- 00:46:08you're selling to and you don't sell
- 00:46:10their product you solve their problems
- 00:46:13how does your company solve someone's
- 00:46:15problem
- 00:46:16what is their problem is it that they're
- 00:46:18not fulfilled is it that they don't have
- 00:46:20enough money
- 00:46:21what is it
- 00:46:22do you even know
- 00:46:24why do they work for you
- 00:46:26and so here's what happened when we did
- 00:46:28this with a niche certification company
- 00:46:31so there was a niche certification
- 00:46:32business and it was stuck at about 400
- 00:46:35000 a month
- 00:46:36and so it was a really charismatic
- 00:46:38leader like typical genius with a
- 00:46:40thousand helpers super marketing
- 00:46:41charismatically really controlling
- 00:46:43holding on tight genius with a thousand
- 00:46:45hand type business
- 00:46:46uh he was frustrated because uh
- 00:46:48everything was always breaking and he
- 00:46:50was always having to do everything
- 00:46:51himself
- 00:46:52kind of one of those like if you want
- 00:46:53everything done you just do it yourself
- 00:46:55because you do it right nobody else does
- 00:46:58and what we found was that he had his
- 00:47:00best friend that was an operator who'd
- 00:47:01been there from the beginning again he
- 00:47:03got that person from his Network
- 00:47:05no one had ever scaled a company past
- 00:47:07400 000 a month including his operator
- 00:47:10I said dude that's the problem
- 00:47:13and so we kicked out the old operator we
- 00:47:16kicked off a recruiting process we
- 00:47:17brought in an entire leadership team
- 00:47:19found a new operator gave the what in
- 00:47:21the how and he scaled to 1.2 million a
- 00:47:23month within six months you still crank
- 00:47:26it
- 00:47:28simple stuff we literally again I just
- 00:47:30want to say this again didn't change his
- 00:47:32funnel didn't change his sales nothing
- 00:47:34changed the people
- 00:47:37and so that is the interview process and
- 00:47:39that is why it's so impactful
- 00:47:42and so what we covered today
- 00:47:44was why Talent acquisition is really the
- 00:47:47missing funnel in your business and how
- 00:47:49pretty much every problem you have can
- 00:47:50be solved by finding the right person
- 00:47:54how to attract the right applicants
- 00:47:55using the right ads and the six ways to
- 00:47:58get new Talent
- 00:47:59how to nurture the right applicants by
- 00:48:01using the right sorting and decision
- 00:48:03process
- 00:48:04and how to sell the right people in the
- 00:48:06interview process using the five-step
- 00:48:07interview process and scripting
- 00:48:08objectives
- 00:48:11so a quick reminder of why this [ __ ]
- 00:48:12works
- 00:48:14Smith
- 00:48:16more
- 00:48:18more money
- 00:48:20this is the boring [ __ ] that's going to
- 00:48:22make you money
- 00:48:23this is going to make you more money
- 00:48:24than any tactic ever will
- 00:48:26but like most the time what people do is
- 00:48:28they get so distracted they're like I
- 00:48:29need to do this new funnel this new
- 00:48:30marketing campaign a new offer I need
- 00:48:31all this new [ __ ] I'm like maybe you
- 00:48:33need a team because the fact that you're
- 00:48:34the only one thinking about this about
- 00:48:36your business is frightening of course
- 00:48:38it's not growing there's one brain
- 00:48:39growing it
- 00:48:41you need 10 brains growing it
- 00:48:44you don't build the business you build
- 00:48:46people and the people build the business
- 00:48:49I have never been good at any one thing
- 00:48:52the only thing that I am good at in my
- 00:48:54team's here as we say this all the time
- 00:48:55is picking the right people
- 00:48:57if I could translate one thing to you
- 00:48:59guys to help you be more successful that
- 00:49:01would be that and my this presentation
- 00:49:03was my best attempt
- 00:49:05so if you want to learn more about we
- 00:49:07grow companies for free you can go to
- 00:49:08acquisition.com
- 00:49:10you can also search Layla formosi on
- 00:49:11whatever platform you use
- 00:49:14I'm supposed to check the time
- 00:49:16do I have five minutes
- 00:49:19okay
- 00:49:21so I was thinking about this
- 00:49:23presentation and I was like man like I'm
- 00:49:25really racking my brain over it because
- 00:49:26like I try so hard to try and make this
- 00:49:28[ __ ] sexy like I'm not super like I
- 00:49:31don't focus on marketing I don't even
- 00:49:32look at my [ __ ] after I put it out I
- 00:49:34don't think about influencer branding
- 00:49:35nothing I just build the company but I
- 00:49:37was like how can I get this across so
- 00:49:39here's what I've noticed is that most
- 00:49:40people when I talk about this stuff
- 00:49:42literally never go and do it the people
- 00:49:43who do that we have coached we have
- 00:49:45trained and we have in our many
- 00:49:46businesses are always the top performers
- 00:49:48the ones who get both sides they get
- 00:49:50both Alex and me
- 00:49:51if you just have one or the other you're
- 00:49:53never going to scale
- 00:49:55and so the reason that I know a lot of
- 00:49:57people won't is because I struggle to
- 00:49:59get our own CEOs to do this stuff that's
- 00:50:01why I have all the stories and I can
- 00:50:03recall so many things because I
- 00:50:04literally live it every day today I had
- 00:50:05somebody do something I was like [ __ ]
- 00:50:07before my damn presentation please come
- 00:50:08watch this
- 00:50:10because the thing is is the reason why
- 00:50:13most people don't do this is because
- 00:50:15it's easier for you to continue to do
- 00:50:17the work yourself than to find other
- 00:50:19people to help
- 00:50:21because typically this is how it is is
- 00:50:23that to start a business you have to put
- 00:50:26all the work into it all the time all
- 00:50:28the effort it's like Blood Sweat and
- 00:50:29Tears and so you train yourself to work
- 00:50:31really [ __ ] hard
- 00:50:33but you don't train yourself to create
- 00:50:35any Leverage
- 00:50:37you don't train yourself how to work
- 00:50:39other people very hard because how could
- 00:50:42they get as good as you if you don't
- 00:50:43give them the same experiences if you
- 00:50:44don't put them in the same conditions
- 00:50:47and so why is it that most CEOs never
- 00:50:49actually create Leverage
- 00:50:51they refuse to give up control
- 00:50:54I see this time and time again and I
- 00:50:56know because I know what it feels like
- 00:50:58because the moment that I not only had
- 00:51:00to ascend multiple times in my business
- 00:51:01but then had to not even be CEO anymore
- 00:51:03had to step back and just be founder and
- 00:51:06sell my business that was the hardest
- 00:51:07step for me
- 00:51:10and what we typically do and what I try
- 00:51:12not to do is we believe the lies our
- 00:51:15brain tells us to keep us safe from
- 00:51:16these like imaginary threats it's like
- 00:51:18they're gonna those threats sound like
- 00:51:20what if I hire them and they're actually
- 00:51:21worse than me and they crumble my whole
- 00:51:22business right
- 00:51:24like what if I hire them then we
- 00:51:26actually make less money because they
- 00:51:28blow so bad and we can't afford them
- 00:51:30what if I hire them and my current team
- 00:51:32hates them and then they hate me by
- 00:51:34default
- 00:51:35what if I hire them and they see I'm not
- 00:51:37as smart as I see
- 00:51:38probably not
- 00:51:40what if I hire them and they steal from
- 00:51:42me
- 00:51:43that will happen
- 00:51:45and so here's a thought experiment and
- 00:51:47this is how I get myself to do [ __ ]
- 00:51:50what if you let your fear prevent you
- 00:51:53from implementing this process and
- 00:51:54hiring smart people
- 00:51:57what does your business look like five
- 00:51:59years from now if you don't do this
- 00:52:04best case in my opinion from what I've
- 00:52:06seen thousands of businesses you become
- 00:52:09the genius with a thousand helpers you
- 00:52:11get mediocre success in fact in the
- 00:52:12beginning people like oh my God you're
- 00:52:13so good at this is so amazing and you're
- 00:52:15like I know I'm so good blah blah it's
- 00:52:16all you though
- 00:52:18and then you eventually stagnate
- 00:52:20probably decline
- 00:52:22because it's all your brain
- 00:52:24worst case
- 00:52:26I say the shits you guys do something
- 00:52:27you're not [ __ ] here in five years
- 00:52:31a business cannot survive off one brain
- 00:52:35and so the choice is yours
- 00:52:37become a relevant mediocre or face fear
- 00:52:41and succeed
- 00:52:42[Applause]
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