Bad Design or Cultural Gap: Varesa Controversy

00:11:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwIjdkHVFhM

概要

TLDRVideoclipul explorează percepția comunității Genshin Impact asupra personajelor noi, cum ar fi Vera și Mizuki, și evidențiază diferențele culturale dintre reacțiile din Japonia și Occident. Se discută despre modurile în care designul personajelor, perceput ca sexualizat de către unii, este de fapt apreciat de publicul japonez. Cuvântul de ordine este că interacțiunile complexe dintre cultura pop, designul personajelor și comunitățile de fani creează o dinamică în care unele caracteristici stilistice sunt contestante în funcție de contextul cultural. De asemenea, se subliniază că reacțiile negative față de designurile personajelor sunt adesea influențate de prejudecăți culturale și de percepții despre atractivitate.

収穫

  • 💬 Citatul despre responsabilitate este relevant în discuția despre designul de personaje.
  • 🔍 Comunitatea Genshin Impact are reacții mixte față de noi personaje.
  • 🇯🇵 Japonia primește bine designurile, în contrast cu Occidentul.
  • 🆕 Vera și Mizuki sunt personaje controversate dar apreciate în Japonia.
  • 🎨 Designul vibrant al Veras este considerat un avans în estetica jocului.
  • 📈 Genshin Impact își bazează succesul pe preferințele culturale asiatice.
  • 📊 Criticile sunt adesea influențate de percepțiile culturale.
  • 🤖 Marketingul influențează așteptările jucătorilor.
  • 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Comunitățile mari generează adesea părți toxice.
  • 🤔 Criticile pot fi legate de standardele de frumusețe diferite.

タイムライン

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    În primele minute, se discută despre cota celebră din filmele vechi care subliniază legătura dintre putere și responsabilitate, corelată cu aspectele dramatice ale jocului Genshin Impact, subliniind dezbaterea din comunitate în legătură cu noile personaje și reacțiile la designul lor, în special Vera. Se face o comparație între reacțiile la personaje precum Mizuki și Vera, menționând că comunitatea japoneză are o apreciere diferită față de comunitatea occidentală în ceea ce privește culturile și desenele de personaje, trezind discuții despre sexualizarea personajelor și iminența acestor criticii.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:11:13

    A doua etapă abordează detaliile specifice ale designului lui Vera. Se discută despre paleta de culori îndrăzneață și caracteristicile vizuale care o diferențiază de alte personaje din Genshin Impact, cum ar fi influențele stilului japonez și combinația vestimentară originală care include elemente de cultura japoneză și mexicană. De asemenea, se observă cum aspectele de marketing și percepția în comunități diferite influențează interpretarea personajelor, cu accentul pe modul în care stereotipurile de frumusețe și așteptările culturale joacă un rol semnificativ în reacțiile jucătorilor, atât masculine cât și feminine.

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ビデオQ&A

  • Ce reprezintă citatul menționat la început?

    Citatul, inspirat de filmul Spider-Man, sugerează că puterea mare vine cu responsabilități mari, ceea ce este legat de impactul personajelor din Genshin Impact.

  • Care este reacția comunității Genshin Impact la noile personaje?

    Comunitatea a avut reacții mixte, critici și plângeri legate de sexualizarea personajelor, cum ar fi Vera și Mizuki.

  • Cum este diferită reacția Japoniei față de cea a Occidentului?

    În Japonia, personajele sunt adesea bine primite, în timp ce în Occident pot exista critici legate de stilul de design considerat inadecvat.

  • Ce caracteristici ale personajului Vera sunt discutate?

    Vera are un design vibrant și îndrăzneț, având influențe din cultura japoneză și mexicană, cu elemente care îmbină moda japoneză cu stiluri occidentale.

  • De ce Genshin Impact primește mai multe critici decât alte jocuri?

    Criticile pot proveni din diferențele de marketing și din dimensiunea comunității, unde părțile toxice au o voce mai mare datorită numărului de membri.

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    the same way as you do and Japanese were
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    apparently satisfied with the design you
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    could see all of that from just
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    scrolling through the comment and what I
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    think actually happens is that she was
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    showing too much skin off her side but
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    instead of saying the characters is too
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    sexualized it is more justifiable to say
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    that it is offending the Japanese
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    culture and I see in Vera's case it's
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    actually the same she's to sexualized
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    for these people but they going to find
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    a more justifiable reason to criticize
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    these characters and the one that has
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    been highly criticized about the
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    inconsistency of the theme and the
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    character's design like why would we
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    have a witch with a pillar like why
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    a fire archon with motorbike a cowgirl
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    literally riding on a flying gun and now
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    an actual cowgirl who's supposed to be a
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    wrestler doesn't dress like a wrestler
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    and she even dare to eat tacos but
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    apparently Japanese love the [ __ ] out of
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    that so if we take a look at the JP side
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    of her post she got 15 million views and
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    174k of likes it is insane and do you
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    may Mizuki Mizuki the previous
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    characters that get the most heat Mizuki
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    may not be very popular in the west and
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    her banners aren't selling very well but
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    she's doing quite well in Japan they
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    love her so much so genshin collaborated
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    with an onen in Japan and wow it was a
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    huge success just look at this crowd
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    lining up to bathe and buy merchandise
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    from this collaboration I actually do
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    it tookes them hours to get into into
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    about yum Mizuki but I heard that she's
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    an off meta characters and Japanese
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    definitely pull her for the Wu aspects
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    of it and if we take a look at her post
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    with the highest like it's 135,000 and
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    7.4 million views so I think we could
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    anticipate that Vera is going to be more
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    successful than Mizuki in the JP side
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    because from what I could gather she
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    would probably be one of those meta
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    characters and as a Taiwanese I wasn't
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    raised in the US after never been to
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    this land of the free home of the brave
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    I would love to do that if I have that
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    opportunity and I've never been to any
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    Western countries so some of the
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    ideologies in the west is pretty much
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    nonexistent here well with all that said
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    it's the boldest design they have ever
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    as veresta and the more you add the
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    color to the characters the harder the
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    design is going to be because it's so
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    easy to mess up with the color
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    coordination and I think they actually
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    nail the color palette here and by and
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    take a closer look at her design of
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    course she got the horn but why would
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    she has a bade on her horn I think it
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    actually give her some personalities a
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    green aoke in the middle I mean the
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    the ear and I could say it in the first
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    site that she's actually wearing as a
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    high schooler uniform with some wrestler
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    alement the only part that belong to the
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    wrestler is the middle part as you can
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    see the Japanese wrestler uniform are
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    kind of looking like that the choice of
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    her sleeve and the middle part of the
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    clothes that covers the wrestler uniform
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    is actually based off a really common
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    jacket that Japanese high schooler are
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    wearing and of course high schooler
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    would wear a skirt even though it's
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    really short but I guess genshin would
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    put a pan under it just like any other
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    characters and of course her tail and
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    leoi is actually a science in Japan I
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    guess and another band-aid and speaking
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    of Band-Aid I really like the Band-Aid
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    on her fingers they basically make this
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    functional tools into a decoration and
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    of course the tacos indicate that she
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    eats a lot a characters who eats a lot
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    is almost part of the equation of pretty
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    much any Japanese anime and also they
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    try to blend in this alent of Mexico
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    into it the choice of her socks is
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    actually pretty common in Japanese anime
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    with a lots of decoration on it and I
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    think she probably got the coolest
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    sneakers in the entire game and cowg
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    girl in anime culture is definitely not
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    covers about the nich's design on the
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    lady is actually quite huge in Asia so
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    much so that we would see those on the
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    subway and I think the same could apply
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    with Vera cowgirl is definitely not
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    nich's design in the JP side especially
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    in the anime culture it's been there for
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    like decade and if we takes a look at
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    followed by Japan
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    21.5% then us 5.8 from South Korea and
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    2.5 from Taiwan so they got over 70% of
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    Revenue coming from Asia so of course
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    they got to design the characters around
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    this region sadly but that's the truth
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    so they're incentivized to design the
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    characters around the Western Aesthetics
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    I will put the sources in the
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    description what is surprise a
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    multi-billion dollar company in China
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    making the decision based off the region
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    that makes the most money for them and
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    not the ethical standard in the west I'm
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    not trying to finger pointing anyone
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    that you got are wrong or anything but I
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    do think that this is the nature of the
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    informational Gap and the cultural Gap
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    that they would came out with the design
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    that is not favorable to the Western
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    audience and I think there's one opinion
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    that I disagree with that has been
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    tossing around in the genin community
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    that why genin got so many lashback and
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    why other games like s Zone zero or even
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    Nik doesn't get that much lashback and
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    it's because the way they Market
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    themselves the way that genin marketings
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    does look like a game for the kid and
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    teenager Maj while some of the other
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    gacha game are blatantly sexualized but
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    I actually disagree with that I think
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    it's mainly because the community is so
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    large that the small portion of the
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    toxic parts of the community is huge
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    enough to be legitimized by the amounts
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    of the voice and it's large enough to
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    form an echo chamber on the internet
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    because from my observation any
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    successful game or any big game out
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    there unless the game is designed around
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    people being nice with each other like
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    or at least they were really big at some
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    point and any smaller game are wholesome
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    because not a lot of people are playing
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    it and the toxic part of the community
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    wouldn't be big enough to form an
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    opinion and in my own opinion this is
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    what happen even though the real issue
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    that they have with these characters is
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    simply because she's showing her belly
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    button and showing too much skin of her
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    side and there are only two kind of
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    person that would complain about
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    sexualizing a characters that is not
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    actually that sexualized it because they
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    haven't played a girl front line too and
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    yeah Nik I think one is confus teenager
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    because teachers says sexualizing stuff
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    is bad just to find out that their
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    teachers is doing only fan I don't
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    really see content creator there to
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    talks about this but I think the second
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    types of people is female gin player who
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    is terminally online and when they see
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    an attractive characters that doesn't
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    fit their definition of beauty and
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    that's somehow trigger them at the
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    Instinct levels that they got to put her
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    down because they recognize her as a
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    threat and unconsciously think that the
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    Vera existent what makes them less
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    desirable like if he talks about this at
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    The evolutionary standpoint it actually
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    makes sense you're got to guess like
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    other people into thinking that the
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    attractive one are not actually that
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    attractive so that would becomes more
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    desirable right and a skinny girl
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    getting a criticism like that on the
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    Instagram is not unheard of but instead
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    of doing that on the Instagram they're
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    doing that to the fictional characters I
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    think it's exactly the same mindset when
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    men criticize K-pop for doing mixup and
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    getting delicate hairstyle and being
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    fashionable they don't align with the
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    male standard of attractiveness and I do
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    think a lots of males including myself
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    do think that an attractive male should
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    be looking like Henry caval and not
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    doing Mak up and pop dance and the
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    ultimate definition of male
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    attractiveness amongst male is that
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    you're going to build like a Space
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    Marine but the reality is they like men
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    that is clean and stylish and it's
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    especially true for the younger woman at
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    least in an entertaining perspective but
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    the differences is male doesn't walk
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    into woman space and tell them to stop
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    watching k-pops stop watching magic mic
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    50 shade of gray and stop playing love
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    and deep space the most we would do we
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    would be like oh this is what woman
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    likes okay fine I don't think majority
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    of the Gen female player do this but I
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    do find that criticizing her for over
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    sexualizing covers with other more
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    justifiable reason is condescending is
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    manipulative and hypocritic and I think
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    the other reason they're doing this is
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    because it is easier to bully guys who
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    play genin even though this is not
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    necessarily factual but this is probably
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    what inside their brain it is just so
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    much easier to call a guy who play genin
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    a loser than calling a girl who play
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    Love and deep space guner as long as
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    it's consensual and there's no miners
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    get involved I think playing this kind
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    of game are perfectly fine because in
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    the end it's still fiction and it's not
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    even that explicit in this case yeah I
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    guess that's about it see you guys
タグ
  • Genshin Impact
  • Vera
  • Mizuki
  • design de personaje
  • cultura japoneză
  • sexualizare
  • comunitate de jocuri
  • diferențe culturale
  • marketing
  • prejudecăți culturale