TDS's biggest nerf only lasted 7 days

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZOgqabWSiU

概要

TLDRThe video analyzes the recent nerf of the Gatling Gun in Tower Defense Simulator (TDS), which aims to balance gameplay by making the tower less overpowered. The presenter addresses common arguments against the nerf, stressing that high-cost towers don't need to be the strongest. They highlight the game's design, which rewards strategy over raw power, allowing players to succeed with simpler towers. Overall, the nerf is seen as beneficial for maintaining a fun and balanced game environment.

収穫

  • 🔫 The Gatling Gun received the biggest nerf in TDS history.
  • 🤔 Many argue the nerf was undeserved due to its high cost.
  • 🏗️ It's essential for TDS to maintain balance and not allow overpowered towers.
  • 🎮 Players can still succeed with simpler towers; Gatling is not necessary for victory.
  • 💡 High requirements for towers do not justify them being overpowered.
  • ⚖️ The game's enjoyment comes from strategic gameplay, not just powerful towers.
  • 💰 The cost of a tower does not guarantee its effectiveness in gameplay.
  • 📉 The nerf keeps the game from devolving into power creep.
  • 👥 The community's reaction is varied, with some supporting the nerf.
  • ✅ Post-nerf, Gatling can still perform well without being game-breaking.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker reflects on the major nerf of the Gatling Gunner in TDS, discussing how it has shifted gameplay from being overly reliant on this tower to emphasizing a more balanced strategy typical of tower defense games. They address criticisms that the nerf was unnecessary due to the high level and cost of the tower, comparing it to other towers that also have high requirements but aren't deemed overpowered. The importance of game balance and discouraging power creep is emphasized, asserting that gameplay should reward skill rather than simply relying on powerful towers.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:32

    As the speaker progresses through waves in TDS, they demonstrate the effectiveness of the nerfed Gatling Gunner, noting that it still performs respectably without being overpowered. They clarify that while the tower was strong, it posed a risk of ruining the game's fun if left unbalanced. The speaker maintains that the nerf was ultimately beneficial for gameplay, allowing players to strategize and use a variety of towers rather than relying on a single overpowered option. The demonstration of Gatling's performance against tough enemies reinforces their argument for balanced gameplay.

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ビデオQ&A

  • Why was the Gatling Gun nerfed?

    The Gatling Gun was nerfed to maintain balance in the game, as it was considered overpowered.

  • What arguments are made against the nerf?

    Some players argue that because the Gatling Gun is a high-cost tower, it should have been stronger.

  • Is it necessary to have the Gatling Gun to win in TDS?

    No, players can win using simpler towers without relying on the Gatling Gun.

  • What is the importance of balance in tower defense games?

    Balance ensures that all players can enjoy the game without feeling compelled to use only the strongest towers.

  • How does the nerf impact gameplay?

    The nerf allows for a more strategic gameplay experience instead of relying solely on powerful towers.

  • What is the author's opinion on the Gatling Gun?

    The author believes the Gatling Gun is fun but acknowledges that it should not be overpowered.

  • Can players still perform well with the Gatling Gun after the nerf?

    Yes, the Gatling Gun can still deal significant damage and perform well in the game.

  • Why is it important for tower requirements not to dictate their strength?

    This prevents power creep and ensures that gameplay remains engaging and balanced.

  • How does the video address the community's reaction to the nerf?

    It offers rebuttals to common criticisms and emphasizes the benefits of the nerf for overall game balance.

  • What is the final takeaway regarding the Gatling Gun's nerf?

    The nerf is viewed as a positive change that promotes balanced and enjoyable gameplay.

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  • 00:00:00
    Gatling Gunner just received the biggest
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    Nerf in TDS history I'm really happy
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    that this thing got nerfed this Tower
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    doesn't even fit into TDS this is stupid
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    and so tough luck you're going to have
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    to start playing TDS like an actual
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    tower defense game now not as a shooter
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    game oh my
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    [Music]
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    God here I stand it's only been 5 days
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    and I'm about to do the very same thing
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    I did a week ago as the biggest nerf in
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    TDS history ever has happened I won't
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    just be replaying the same match I'll
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    also be addressing some common Arguments
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    for why Gatling shouldn't have actually
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    been nerfed as well as some other angry
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    individuals who are mad cuz they say my
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    opinion sucks and I feel like we should
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    get that out of the way before we even
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    start anything here the number one most
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    common argument I saw about well what
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    people thought of the Gatling Nerf is
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    that because it's a level 175 Tower and
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    because it cost 35k coins you know those
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    insane requirements by all means people
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    said that because it's so expensive it
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    should have been good so as a matter of
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    fact the Nerf was undeserved and while
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    you think that argument is solid it's
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    actually really stupid let's think about
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    this for a moment let's take uh like
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    golden Soldier for example that thing
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    requires even more coins than the
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    Gatling gun Additionally you get it from
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    a crate so you could very well only have
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    enough coins and have golden Soldier by
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    the time you're level 250 however nobody
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    in the GDs Community is really
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    complaining nobody's like oh my God why
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    isn't golden Soldier better than
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    engineer or why isn't golden mini the
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    strongest Tower in existence huh because
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    I only got all of my golden towers by
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    the time I was well in my 200s but when
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    I got my golden Cowboy or whatever I
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    wasn't upset that it didn't turn the
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    whole game Into You Know light work I
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    couldn't solo hardcore with four towers
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    and so you can't really see Gatling in
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    the same light now the people that paid
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    Roo uh that's kind of different first of
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    all you can also pay roox to buy coins
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    so you could get a golden crate here so
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    you know you could accuse the devs of
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    scamming the players that way cuz it's
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    50k coins for I don't know like gold
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    Scout who uses gold Scout nobody uses it
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    but then again nobody's like complaining
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    about it it's not amazing it's just good
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    in its own way so I don't understand why
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    when it's Gatling gun people suddenly
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    have these much higher expectations for
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    it even though when you compare it to
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    Gold Towers you'll actually be getting
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    some golden Towers even later than the
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    Gatling and on top of that I think you
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    need to understand the kind of game t
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    yes is we are not toilet Tower Defense
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    we are not these Gat gambling games
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    where the longer it takes for you to
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    grind something or the harder something
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    is to get it must be better than
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    everything else it just doesn't work
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    like that TDS tries its best to be a
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    balanced tower defense game that means
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    you don't need to play this game 24/7
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    and gamble through crates to have a
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    chance to defend against these enemies
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    TDS rewards the player for being good
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    and if you can win with simple Towers
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    like Fallen mode for example you can win
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    with quick boss military base and Ranger
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    pretty much you don't need Gatling you
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    don't need engineer you don't need
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    golden towers and that's what makes this
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    game fun it's not just a spammy wave
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    structure with the only way to defend it
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    being to have better Towers it's
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    actually very well thought out and the
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    whole game is beatable entirely NST that
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    means no special Towers you do not need
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    Gatling you don't need accelerator
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    engineer if you're a casual player with
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    casual Towers that's more than enough
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    and so I think what people need to
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    understand is it's a good thing that
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    these super expensive Towers aren't
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    actually overpowered cuz then the game
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    wouldn't be fun anymore if TDS added
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    like a level 2,000 tower that just one
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    shots the boss well think about it it
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    would be fun to use a few times but then
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    how much would you really care about
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    playing TDS you just place the tower
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    down and and what are you doing at that
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    point I just realized my loadouts Rong I
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    need to have Electro instead of
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    Commander there also some people that
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    got really freaking mad like when I said
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    you could just play Arsenal if you
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    wanted to shoot a gun first of all I was
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    exaggerating I know that these games are
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    very different it's obviously not the
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    exact same thing but the reason I use
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    that comparison is because of what I was
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    saying earlier which is that aiming the
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    Gatling became everything in this game
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    if you could aim your Gatling and hit
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    the enemies that was all that you needed
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    to do to win in that aspect the game
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    becomes less of a tower defense game
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    which you know I think I would be
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    correct to make the Assumption because
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    this is a tower defense game that's why
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    most people play it so that's why I said
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    that if you're no longer strategizing
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    but instead just shooting a Gatling then
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    really all you're doing is playing a
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    shooter game I can acknowledge the fact
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    that people found the tower fun yes but
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    I'm not laughing in these people's faces
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    saying ha your Tower got nerfed no it's
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    it's very different I'm just pointing
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    out the fact of the situation did Gatlin
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    get the most DPS removed off a tower yes
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    is it a good thing that the most busted
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    overpowered thing gets balanced yes this
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    quote unquote criticism is is not
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    getting us anywhere if you're going to
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    call my opinions trash you should be at
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    least able to explain to me why this
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    thing should have been op and the more
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    reasonable fans in the comment section
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    did that very thing they said because of
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    the requirements they think the tower
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    should be good and I just addressed no
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    that that should make the tower good cuz
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    then fundamentally where's TDS going to
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    end up going well the same place is
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    toilet Tower Defense there's going to be
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    a ton of power creep and I really think
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    that your ability to win should be based
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    off of how good you are and not how good
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    your towers are so yeah hopefully I
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    don't need to say any more on the
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    situation and otherwise we've only got a
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    couple more waves here until it's time
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    to finally get the new Gatling here we
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    go it's wave 28 next wave is flying
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    enemies so it's time to get Gatling
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    right in this spot and the early levels
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    are still the same and that's fine
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    because the early levels were already
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    good now I believe level two here's the
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    first one with a change I think it's
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    cheaper level three slightly stronger it
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    has a faster cool down it also has more
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    damage and a bigger angle level four
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    here I can't afford but we should be
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    able to get it next round here so I mean
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    it it's really just going to be played
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    the same this is just a slightly
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    stronger version of the level three than
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    there was after the Nerf I'm going to a
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    this thing away I want to leave as much
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    damage here for my Cowboys as possible
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    level four okay I need to slow down the
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    game level four got quite a big damage
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    buff from after the Nerf I mean yeah at
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    this point this was like one of the most
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    nerfed upgrades as well as these next
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    two but now Gatling is a lot closer to
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    how it used to be before the Nerf still
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    not even close to as strong as it was
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    before the Nerf cuz that was just
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    overpowered but I mean yeah as you could
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    see from this thing it just does solid
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    damage also I should mention when I was
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    comparing it DPS when I said like you
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    know it's it's it's close to Turret that
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    was exclusively single Target I don't
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    think it's fair to look at Gatling from
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    a single Target perspective because
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    that's just not the type of tower it is
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    that's like comparing mortar to
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    literally anything else like like minig
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    Gunner like of course mortar is going to
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    do a lot worse for the Fallen King so I
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    compared Gatling to Turret that was just
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    for the single Target I guess I didn't
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    make that clear enough but yes that that
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    doesn't actually mean that this thing is
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    close to as good as turret cuz the only
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    statistic of Gatling that oh shoot hold
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    on I got to actually Max my electros
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    here and upgrade this cuz this wave is
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    hard the only statistic of Gatling that
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    matters is when you're using it in first
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    person it's impossible to make a fair
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    comparison between this and any other
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    Tower speaking of which I have to speed
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    this up because I need to okay wow we
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    just barely killed that guy but yeah max
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    level here we're back down to 100K the
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    damage has also gone up so I think this
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    puts Gatling in a perfect spot as I said
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    in my video about this thing I would
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    understand if people said it was nerfed
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    too much I don't know where people got
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    that I was like hating on the fact that
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    this thing as interactive and good it's
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    not what was happening at all I was
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    hating on the fact that this thing was
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    just unbalanced busted op whatever you
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    want to say and every sense of the word
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    and it wasn't even a classic Tower
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    Defense style Tower you know what I'm
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    saying now believe we're going to kill
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    this Fallen Summoner even quicker than I
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    did when there was Pursuits but I mean
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    okay this thing is slow right now so
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    yeah actually we kill in the same area
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    but if this thing wasn't slowed down
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    then well that wouldn't have
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    happened this whole wave I basically
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    just kept at the front with Gatling keep
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    in mind this thing has been nerfed so I
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    don't know what else you could really
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    want this thing was and is still great
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    oh also I got Engineers early I'm going
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    to get rid of them because we kind of
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    want to see this thing single Target
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    here with the honor guard I still don't
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    expect it to be all that amazing just
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    because as I said this is meant to be a
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    crowd control tower more so than a
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    single Target also there's a warden
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    causing problems I think I'm going to
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    Target the warden just because uh it's
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    probably going to be a bigger issue than
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    the honor guard if I could just get some
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    Pierce here that would be nice there we
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    go so just take a look at this this is a
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    crowd control tower the Gatling and it
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    actually managed to take care of this
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    Fallen Honor Guard which is single
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    Target with no help whatsoever I mean of
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    course we had these supports but we had
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    that for Pursuits as well I think now's
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    the time that I want to get the
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    engineers I had them a bit earlier last
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    time so I think yeah having them a bit
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    earlier this time is also fair this time
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    we have the engineers in a better spot
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    as well so yeah let's go set damage to
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    Red track here and just stay in the
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    Gatling the rest of the game and I'm
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    going be honest I lost my train of
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    thought oh yeah I was talking about how
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    this thing did good with single Target
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    this time around the real test is the
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    Fallen King I guess cuz if we can win
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    against the Fallen King this time then I
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    don't know what else there could
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    possibly be to complain about this wave
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    is fairly tough but here we go we
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    permanently stun things like this Fallen
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    Guardian next to us and okay here comes
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    Fallen King I pressed the wrong button
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    so hopefully we don't need this ability
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    and we're about to see how far the
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    Fallen King pushes uh last time we lost
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    but this time I have engineers in better
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    spots as well as obviously stronger
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    Gatling I kind of feel like reiterating
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    my main points remember it's a good
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    thing for Gatling to be weaker than it
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    was pre Nerf because that's what makes
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    TDS fun it's the fact that it's a
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    balanced game and that I wasn't hating
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    on this tower for being new and unique
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    but for being something way too strong
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    for what is essentially a gimmick Tower
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    I think we can all agree this is so much
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    better where it is now where look at
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    this you could still comfortably rely on
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    this thing to do over 500,000 damage in
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    a game and definitely perform very well
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    while simultaneously not being so broken
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    that if you want to solo hardcore or do
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    hidden wave this is the thing that you
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    have to bring that would be about it
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    thank you for watching like subscribe
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    you st Cod goodbye
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