I confronted Ludwig, one of YouTube's biggest streamers

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概要

TLDRIn this episode, Anthony Padilla interviews Ludwig, a streamer who has gained immense popularity. Ludwig discusses his rise to fame, his acceptance of the inevitability of falling off, and how witnessing death at a young age has shaped his confidence. He shares his experiences with scams, the pressures of content creation, and the importance of enjoying the journey rather than fixating on legacy. Ludwig emphasizes the need to adapt to the changing landscape of streaming and reflects on his motivations, which have shifted from personal success to ensuring the stability of his employees. The conversation also touches on personal philosophies about life, death, and the nature of success.

収穫

  • 🎮 Ludwig discusses his unexpected rise to fame.
  • 💔 He reflects on the impact of witnessing death at a young age.
  • 💰 Ludwig shares his experience of being scammed out of $100,000.
  • 📈 He emphasizes the importance of enjoying the journey in content creation.
  • 🤝 Ludwig's motivation has shifted to supporting his employees.
  • 🧠 He believes in accepting the inevitability of falling off.
  • 🌊 Ludwig discusses the pressures of streaming and content creation.
  • 💭 He shares his philosophy that everything will work out in the end.
  • 🌱 Ludwig views failure as an opportunity for growth.
  • 🌟 He acknowledges the changing landscape of streaming and the need to adapt.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Ludwig, a rising streamer, discusses his unexpected popularity and his belief that he will eventually become irrelevant. He reflects on how witnessing death at a young age has shaped his confidence and acceptance of life's uncertainties.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Ludwig shares his experience of interviewing Susan Wojcicki, the CEO of YouTube, and the anxiety that came with it. He humorously recounts how he deceived her during the interview by showing her a picture of a frog, which helped ease his nerves.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The conversation shifts to the nature of streaming and YouTube content creation. Ludwig explains how streamers are often more versatile than YouTubers due to the live format, which requires adaptability and quick thinking, contrasting it with the more polished and edited nature of traditional YouTube videos.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Ludwig opens up about being scammed out of $100,000, attributing it to his trusting nature. He shares how he has kept an eye on the scammer's activities since the incident, highlighting the complexities of trust and betrayal in personal relationships.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Anthony Padilla shares his own experience with a hacking attempt, illustrating the vulnerabilities of online identities. The two discuss the importance of being cautious and aware of potential scams in the digital age.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Ludwig reflects on his high confidence levels, which stem from a philosophy of acceptance regarding life's outcomes, including death. He discusses how his father's death at a young age influenced his perspective on life and mortality.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    The conversation delves into the idea of 'faking it till you make it' in terms of accepting death and how this mindset can lead to personal growth and resilience. Ludwig emphasizes the importance of being genuine while also recognizing the value of stepping outside one's comfort zone.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:41:01

    Ludwig discusses the pressures of maintaining success in the streaming world and the inevitability of falling off. He expresses a desire to enjoy the journey and uplift others along the way, rather than solely focusing on legacy or numbers.

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ビデオQ&A

  • What does Ludwig think about his future relevance?

    Ludwig believes he will eventually fall off and become irrelevant, but he aims to enjoy the journey while it lasts.

  • How did witnessing death affect Ludwig's confidence?

    Experiencing death at a young age helped Ludwig accept life's uncertainties, leading to his extreme confidence.

  • What was Ludwig's experience with being scammed?

    Ludwig was scammed out of $100,000 and reflects on his trusting nature.

  • How does Ludwig handle the pressure of content creation?

    He acknowledges the pressure but focuses on enjoying the process and uplifting others.

  • What is Ludwig's philosophy on life?

    He believes everything will work out in the end, either positively or through acceptance of death.

  • What motivates Ludwig in his career?

    His motivation shifted from personal achievement to ensuring job security for his employees.

  • How does Ludwig view the concept of legacy?

    He thinks focusing too much on legacy can detract from enjoying the present.

  • What is Ludwig's advice on handling failure?

    He believes that failure can provide clarity and an opportunity to move on.

  • What is Ludwig's vice?

    He admits to using weed as a way to relax and escape from stress.

  • How does Ludwig feel about the future of streaming?

    He acknowledges that the streaming landscape will change and that he must adapt.

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  • 00:00:01
    Ludwig a streamer who seemingly blew up
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    out of nowhere but now no one can stop
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    talking about him
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    I'm Anthony Padilla and today I'm going
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    to find out why he says that despite
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    being massively popular right now he
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    knows for a fact he's gonna fall off and
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    become irrelevant
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    and I'll find out how witnessing Death
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    at a young age and learning to accept it
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    has led to his extreme confidence
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    I mean he literally said
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    directly to the CEO of YouTube space
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    hello Ludwig how you doing man
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    this episode is sponsored by betterhelp
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    online therapy visit betterhelp.com
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    Padilla because sometimes existing is
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    exhausting now I can't say this to many
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    people okay but you and I have both
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    interviewed Susan wachitzki we have and
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    I had to literally write down
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    phonetically
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    wojitski before our interview that's how
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    you say it isn't it I thought it was
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    wojiski you're you're throwing a team
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    there I used to be right is it wojitski
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    or wojiski don't let me sway you you're
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    right I did it virtually too you did it
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    in person which I can only imagine how
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    much more nerve-wracking that would be I
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    think I wasn't nervous I I because how
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    the [ __ ] are you not nervous to
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    interview the CEO of YouTube you know
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    who has the power of your entire over
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    your entire career potentially I was
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    initially nervous because they have like
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    basically SEAL Team Six go to your house
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    before the interview to check every
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    single corner see what's cammed up see
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    what's miked up like they cover
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    everything and then I had to like tell
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    them every single thing I was gonna do
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    in the interview and so I was very
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    anxious going in right and I was like I
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    don't want to be anxious that sounds
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    like [ __ ] yeah so I decided to lie to
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    them and I oh added something to the
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    interview that I didn't let them know
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    about oh
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    so you took the route of
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    being deceptive yes I showed her a
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    picture of a frog oh yeah that was at a
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    bus stop that could be interpreted that
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    he was hanging himself but he wasn't
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    doing that oh totally waiting for a bus
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    so I'm incredibly anxious up till that
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    moment but then when she played off of
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    it so well I was like yeah she's great
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    this is great let's go weren't you
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    nervous about
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    her watching the newest episode before
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    coming on our podcast is a little
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    raunchy uh-huh I don't know if you've
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    ever seen an episode I start pulling my
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    pod in the corner
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    who's gonna suck me to completion the
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    best yeah we are for
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    men dirty men dirty men dirty dirty men
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    who've lived together for a long time
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    and so we have a lot of inside jokes and
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    and one of them I can't say this but I
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    can't say I'm embarrassed about the
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    people around here hearing me right now
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    I like how you can't even say you can't
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    even bring yourself to say I can't say
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    this in this format I feel seedier when
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    I'm in that attic all right I'm a darker
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    here I'm a different human right you're
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    a little dirty a little here yes I'm
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    much cleaner there was a watch party
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    downstairs and I could hear them and at
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    one point I just say that yeah you know
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    our podcast doesn't get demonetized a
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    lot even though we talk about
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    and then after I said the word there's
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    an audible
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    and after that was like I went
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    downstairs to like everybody crunched
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    that was the worst thing you could while
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    watching the episode I cringed yeah
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    because it was a visceral like I didn't
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    even think about it I'm too in my own
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    bubble with with three other men in that
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    room that I didn't think like how One
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    couth of me right right talking to like
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    a like a a
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    proper adult woman and saying I'm so
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    haphazard I'm doing it now and you're
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    you're I know I'm bringing out the worst
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    in you bringing me down back to coofness
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    how have you been able to hone in on so
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    many different skills I mean like like I
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    said that's not even your full-time job
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    to interview people still better than me
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    and you're also live streaming regularly
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    doing standard YouTube videos throwing
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    huge events raising money for charity
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    repaying people who've been scammed on
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    Twitch just a day in the life I guess I
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    I honestly what I found is that there
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    are streamers who have tried to become
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    YouTubers to great success and there are
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    YouTubers who have attempted to uh to
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    become streamers to much more middling
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    success yeah and I've noticed that the
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    streaming skill is much more versatile
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    because you don't have the opportunity
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    to re-record I think streamers are Jack
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    of all trades and can do a podcast
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    really well because it's not too
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    different from streaming and talking to
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    someone they can make a YouTube video
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    sketch content because they're forced to
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    do everything in a single take as
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    opposed to like Logan Paul when he tried
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    streaming for a bit and he was throwing
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    plates on the ground after Fortnight
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    losses uh-huh doesn't hit as hard
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    doesn't hit as hard as his Vlog content
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    did I got started on YouTube 17 years
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    ago obviously live streaming is not a
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    thing and it was all so precise
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    everything was so calculated like I
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    would do 12 takes of saying one word
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    [ __ ] or something like that and we
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    would find the perfect take that was in
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    one take right that was amazing thank
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    you I have been honing in on my craft
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    since then but everything was so
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    meticulously crafted without any room
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    for error yeah you know and it became
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    this thing where I felt like everything
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    had to be perfect and if anything was
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    slightly out of place everything was
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    ruined but you're live streaming
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    90 hours a month or more and every
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    single minute is kind of practice of
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    being on it and being able to quickly
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    adapt to any situation that you're in
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    today on the drive over here I I played
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    um the video of you talking about how
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    you were scammed out of
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    a hundred thousand dollars and uh it was
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    riveting your suffering is so
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    entertaining and captivating why does
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    that have to be my suffering it was a
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    great story because it was true and and
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    I did get scammed out of a hundred
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    thousand dollars yes you did which
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    doesn't happen a lot is it because
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    you're too trusting I think so I think I
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    give the benefit of the doubt and uh and
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    I get scammed very easily in that story
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    the person who scammed me yeah it kind
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    of ended that where I where I kept an
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    eye on them you didn't press charges I
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    didn't press charges I found out they
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    scammed again does that make you want to
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    press charges now here's why I'm so good
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    at getting scammed no short stories just
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    give me at a hundred thousand dollars
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    they moved to Texas to try to get a
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    regular job they fell back into the
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    cycle of gambling because they're an
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    addict they TR they roped in like three
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    people at a bowling alley they worked at
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    and then because the video was so
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    popular the people who worked at that
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    bowling alley hit me up oh they had seen
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    it yes and then the private investigator
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    looked into it and then I I'm I got him
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    to pay back all the people uh before it
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    became a problem okay so I I'm I'm I
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    feel like a parent in a way yeah where I
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    have like a watchful eye through a
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    private investigator to make sure that
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    that he's not scamming anyone but it's
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    kind of working have you ever been
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    scammed
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    um
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    not necessarily scammed but someone did
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    use a weird system to get hold of my
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    phone number and therefore all of my
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    accounts and try to get hold of my
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    PayPal oh so they tried to just hack you
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    they did hack my Twitter and it's kind
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    of wild because you know the person that
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    they spoofed in order to get me to give
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    up my info I received a call Cody Co on
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    my phone I'm like oh [ __ ] we're homies
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    what's up I pick up he's like what's up
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    Anthony I'm like yo it sounds exactly
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    like him they're like can you do me a
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    quick favor and I thought that I was
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    getting pranked for like a YouTube video
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    or something like go to this Twitter
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    account follow it like go to this
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    Twitter account and I'm like I am not
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    going to follow this account super fishy
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    I was like uh okay yeah gonna hang up
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    now because I did not know what was
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    going on I go to sleep the next morning
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    I wake up to my phone going off because
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    they had gained access to my cell phone
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    number and then I don't know how that
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    call from that person spoofing Cody
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    coe's voice and phone number got access
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    to my phone but then they had also
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    gotten into my Twitter and they had
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    linked the account that they tried to
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    get me to follow
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    Cody yes and when I contacted Cody he
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    was like oh people have been spoofing my
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    number and my voice dude the voice I
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    don't know how they did that unless they
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    threatened him and he was actually him
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    or he's just actually a scammer on the
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    side
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    it's your time to admit it come clean
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    I'm not gonna be mad I promise I'll be
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    mad on his behalf have you always been
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    this confident I think I've always had a
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    relatively high confidence and it's
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    always come from a philosophy that I've
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    carried with me since I was pretty young
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    that it may be naively I've always
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    thought it everything will work out
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    because it kind of has to what do you
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    mean it has to well because it either
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    works out how you want it to or you've
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    tried and it doesn't work out how you
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    planned but life still moves on or the
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    absolute worst case is you die and I'm
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    okay with that all options are fine
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    so you're like you're like the flow of
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    life will have happen yeah time will
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    continue moving as it does or you die or
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    you die and then it still moves without
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    you and everyone's still chilling and
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    I'm not seeking this could come off like
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    I'm seeking that that's not the goal
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    right but I'm also acceptance acceptant
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    accepting I'm an English major
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    acceptance a word I'm making that word
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    up I'm acceptant of it of death was
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    there anything in your childhood that
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    kind of showed you that the worst case
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    scenario is death and that you know you
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    could be confident with anything you
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    you're doing leading up to that eventual
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    outcome that will happen yeah my dad
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    died so I was like I was like oh wait
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    people can die right I remember when I
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    was really young I asked my mom once
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    because I love video games and I
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    straight up say I was like how many
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    lives do we get because I was like I was
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    playing Mario 64 and you like start with
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    like three offers yeah so like how many
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    did we get she's like one and I was like
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    blows you can't even make a mistake and
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    then fall off the edge of the cliff and
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    then come back and learn from your
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    mistakes I was like say I get 100 coins
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    yeah and so then I was like oh death is
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    a real thing and then when my dad died
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    it's much realer because I yeah I had to
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    confront it and I was 10. because I was
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    so young it really shaped like my
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    relationship with death I think more so
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    than most people like you you start a
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    relationship a lot earlier uh because
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    it's easier to like detach or
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    disassociate with the death of like
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    maybe a pet or a grandparent not to like
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    devalue those but it's expected in a way
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    and and maybe you're told that so like
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    if it happens when you're young and you
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    have a great grandparent or whoever and
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    they're 90 it's like it's talked about
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    differently than like you know your dad
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    who's like supposed to be around how did
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    you change that mindset I feel like
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    that's such a difficult thing like
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    people spend their entire lives
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    becoming a Zen as possible to accept
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    death I think it started with faking it
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    so it's like it was an initial fear and
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    then it's like maybe fake that I accept
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    this and then eventually like fake it
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    till you make it I think it's a really
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    powerful thing that works Beyond you
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    know getting a job that you shouldn't
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    have I think people really see faking
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    anything to be like kind of a negative
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    thing like oh he's faking but in this
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    sense it was actually good for you to
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    fake like you were cool with death and
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    then eventually with enough faking you
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    were able to like just train yourself to
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    think that way yeah I think so I think
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    that was like how it started and I think
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    that at least let me have an honest
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    conversation with myself about it but I
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    don't know I don't think faking it's a
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    problem I I think you need to be genuine
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    at points can become a fake person but
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    faking things also puts you in
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    situations you wouldn't normally be
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    comfortable with yeah which allows you
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    to like grow a bit but it's almost like
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    be the person that you want to be even
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    if you're not ready yeah and then when
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    the opportunities present themselves for
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    you to be ready you've already been in
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    the mindset that I am that person yeah
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    yeah and I think that like the person
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    that you will be is something that you
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    arbitrarily decide now and work towards
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    and it could be anything what do you see
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    your future self as I'm pretty
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    short-term thinker you're pretty sure
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    yeah like
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    answer thanks sorry I just gotta make
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    sure I heard you great start
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    [Laughter]
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    implemented you enough to get that one
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    out
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    you think I'm a short-term thinker uh
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    I'm a tall man short-term thinker yes
  • 00:11:49
    six two on my license in the sense that
  • 00:11:51
    I like to think no more than like maybe
  • 00:11:52
    a year or two ahead of time although my
  • 00:11:54
    mentality is do whatever you want
  • 00:11:56
    because it'll always work out because it
  • 00:11:58
    has to yeah part of that might be rooted
  • 00:12:01
    in confirmation bias because it has
  • 00:12:03
    worked out I am able to say it from a
  • 00:12:05
    point of privilege which I feel like is
  • 00:12:06
    worth noting yeah and it's much easier
  • 00:12:09
    to say it because it has worked out yeah
  • 00:12:12
    and it's much harder to have that
  • 00:12:13
    mentality when it doesn't work out in
  • 00:12:15
    that sense do you feel like you're kind
  • 00:12:16
    of like whatever happens happens you
  • 00:12:18
    know I hear I hear different words like
  • 00:12:20
    letting go surrendering that type of
  • 00:12:22
    mentality yeah what is that from
  • 00:12:24
    different philosophical writings and
  • 00:12:27
    spiritual teachings are you a philosophy
  • 00:12:29
    mans lately I've really enjoyed learning
  • 00:12:32
    about different things about psychology
  • 00:12:34
    and philosophy we'll give a wreck
  • 00:12:36
    Michael Singer what is Michael sing
  • 00:12:39
    about he talks about
  • 00:12:41
    basically the art of surrendering to the
  • 00:12:44
    way that life goes you could live your
  • 00:12:45
    life trying to force everything to be
  • 00:12:48
    exactly the way you want and thinking
  • 00:12:49
    that things will only go my way if I
  • 00:12:53
    force them to right or you kind of take
  • 00:12:55
    the approach that the Universe has taken
  • 00:12:58
    over 13.8 billion years and it's just
  • 00:13:00
    it'll eventually work out that's a much
  • 00:13:02
    more Eastern thought process right
  • 00:13:04
    that's true yeah yeah I do think that a
  • 00:13:07
    lot of Eastern spiritual teachings do
  • 00:13:10
    kind of play into letting the universe
  • 00:13:13
    letting whatever Force you believe to be
  • 00:13:16
    the force Take the Lead right and
  • 00:13:18
    Western's like grab by the balls they're
  • 00:13:20
    like work work work work capitalism baby
  • 00:13:22
    go something I love doing is I take I
  • 00:13:25
    have a Vespa and I like writing my Vespa
  • 00:13:27
    and I write it at Sunset to go watch the
  • 00:13:30
    sunset and then I stretch at the sunset
  • 00:13:32
    nice because you know you gotta limber
  • 00:13:33
    up oh yeah I do like three times a week
  • 00:13:36
    maybe four times a week and when I go
  • 00:13:38
    there uh I met this this Taiwanese man
  • 00:13:41
    he's like 50 years old and his name is
  • 00:13:43
    tumla okay great guy oh and he's been
  • 00:13:47
    teaching me a bit about some of like the
  • 00:13:49
    Eastern philosophies that he learned
  • 00:13:51
    growing up because they teach it in
  • 00:13:53
    school in in most like Asian countries
  • 00:13:56
    is that while we are taught nothing
  • 00:13:57
    about them no no mentality no perception
  • 00:14:01
    of life and death like maybe at College
  • 00:14:04
    you like get a philosophy 101 class at
  • 00:14:07
    psych 101 and that's been the highlights
  • 00:14:09
    of like my year is running into this 50
  • 00:14:12
    year old Taiwanese dude because it's
  • 00:14:13
    very easy to get wrapped up and be like
  • 00:14:15
    streaming his life and then I meet
  • 00:14:16
    tsungla and he's like oh yeah let's
  • 00:14:18
    switch again and I'm like oh yeah so
  • 00:14:20
    what kind of values is he teaching you
  • 00:14:21
    what are you guys talking about allowing
  • 00:14:23
    the force of the world and and then
  • 00:14:26
    trying to like
  • 00:14:27
    um maneuver through that rather than
  • 00:14:30
    like you know force will in certain ways
  • 00:14:32
    so it's like that's why I thought of it
  • 00:14:34
    is because it's it's similar to what you
  • 00:14:36
    talked about with Michael singerman
  • 00:14:37
    there we go so it's kind of if I were to
  • 00:14:40
    put that visually into metaphors it
  • 00:14:42
    would be like paddling through the water
  • 00:14:44
    through the river it's still pushing you
  • 00:14:46
    you're still going where once but you
  • 00:14:47
    get to guide it a little bit versus
  • 00:14:49
    Steamboat with an engine and you're like
  • 00:14:52
    I'm going against the stream nature does
  • 00:14:54
    not want this to happen but I'm gonna
  • 00:14:56
    make it happen I'm gonna take what I
  • 00:14:57
    want yeah it's exactly like that it's
  • 00:14:59
    cool to see that perspective and talk to
  • 00:15:03
    a to a dude who doesn't give a [ __ ]
  • 00:15:05
    about that I'm a streamer YouTuber
  • 00:15:07
    you're just a guy it's just a guy with
  • 00:15:09
    fish flops with fish flops it's gonna be
  • 00:15:12
    like damn the fish flops again you know
  • 00:15:14
    he's doing an interview right now he's
  • 00:15:15
    like there's this guy with fish flops
  • 00:15:16
    that I mean yeah Taiwanese news yeah
  • 00:15:19
    weird-ass guy how many hours are you
  • 00:15:22
    working in a day in front of camera
  • 00:15:24
    probably about 30 hours a week do you
  • 00:15:27
    think you'll slowly pull away from being
  • 00:15:28
    on camera that much not anytime soon
  • 00:15:31
    like for the next year probably it'll be
  • 00:15:33
    like the same but like maybe after that
  • 00:15:35
    then it's like 20 hours maybe I Whittle
  • 00:15:38
    it down to 15 something like that I mean
  • 00:15:40
    you have YouTube coming to you with
  • 00:15:41
    exclusive deals how did you get to
  • 00:15:43
    that point yeah I got so lucky
  • 00:15:46
    it was all luck it was a lot of luck but
  • 00:15:49
    like all success is it at least from my
  • 00:15:52
    perspective is is is is is work that is
  • 00:15:56
    matched with opportunity and like it it
  • 00:15:59
    might never come it might come and you
  • 00:16:01
    weren't ready for it you've got to be
  • 00:16:03
    ready for the come and and so I was I
  • 00:16:06
    was just streaming a lot to like decent
  • 00:16:09
    success you know I'd gone full time
  • 00:16:11
    after I got fired from my job at a vape
  • 00:16:13
    company shout out to IQ Vapes they made
  • 00:16:16
    Vapes that looked like iPods so kids
  • 00:16:18
    could smoke them in schools oh cool so I
  • 00:16:21
    was here cool way to smoke yeah it was
  • 00:16:24
    really it was really cool that they
  • 00:16:26
    could deceive teachers and still get
  • 00:16:28
    nicotine in at the age of 16. oh good so
  • 00:16:31
    we were Heroes real quick by the way I
  • 00:16:33
    did have a genius marketing plan that
  • 00:16:34
    would reduce all the nicotine levels
  • 00:16:36
    month by month over the course of the
  • 00:16:37
    year so you go from smoking like 50 mg
  • 00:16:40
    nicotine Vapes to zero with the goal of
  • 00:16:42
    making people quit and I pitch it to the
  • 00:16:44
    CEO a student from China yeah in a
  • 00:16:46
    meeting go for an hour I have a bunch of
  • 00:16:48
    slides I made up almost all the numbers
  • 00:16:49
    because I don't know how people find
  • 00:16:51
    numbers and then he sits there and he
  • 00:16:52
    goes this is the best presentation I've
  • 00:16:54
    ever seen our products are too [ __ ] to
  • 00:16:56
    actually do it well and it would also
  • 00:16:58
    make people not addicted to the product
  • 00:16:59
    which is kind of going against what
  • 00:17:00
    companies usually want yeah my pitch to
  • 00:17:03
    them was that yes you are right
  • 00:17:06
    but the industry will continue to make
  • 00:17:08
    people addicted to the product so if you
  • 00:17:10
    are a foil to the industry then you will
  • 00:17:12
    Thrive because no one else is doing that
  • 00:17:13
    I still think it'd be a successful idea
  • 00:17:15
    today probably damn so it could have
  • 00:17:17
    been sick but they fired you and then
  • 00:17:18
    you said streaming here I come streaming
  • 00:17:20
    here I come I was doing that for a while
  • 00:17:22
    just trying to get as good as I could
  • 00:17:23
    like maybe like 1000 average viewers and
  • 00:17:28
    then it was like coven bang the website
  • 00:17:31
    tripled in size bang POG Champs the
  • 00:17:33
    chess event took over all of the website
  • 00:17:35
    chess became like a phenomenon yeah in
  • 00:17:38
    like internet culture you were at ahead
  • 00:17:41
    of it and that like it was instantly 10
  • 00:17:43
    000 viewers and what felt like overnight
  • 00:17:45
    and then and then you know what happens
  • 00:17:47
    the next month Anthony Among Us
  • 00:17:49
    [Music]
  • 00:17:51
    and so many people have interviewed have
  • 00:17:53
    had their careers like pop off when
  • 00:17:55
    Among Us 10 000 average viewers to 20
  • 00:17:58
    000. like almost like in the span of six
  • 00:18:01
    months you meant psychuno oh yeah how
  • 00:18:03
    would you describe him uh very calm and
  • 00:18:07
    a little shy soft-spoken sweet very
  • 00:18:10
    sweet man and I hop in and be like
  • 00:18:13
    psychuna you dumbass piece of [ __ ] and
  • 00:18:16
    it's it's again another foil to like
  • 00:18:18
    what was like a very wholesome Lobby
  • 00:18:19
    true and so I think that people liked
  • 00:18:22
    that not everyone did no certainly but
  • 00:18:25
    there was a hole in the market and you
  • 00:18:26
    jammed yourself that you rammed yourself
  • 00:18:29
    in there I just like being that person
  • 00:18:31
    yeah I was typecasted when I did plays
  • 00:18:33
    when I was younger as the [ __ ]
  • 00:18:35
    boyfriend so you knew that that's how
  • 00:18:37
    you had to embrace that's who I am
  • 00:18:39
    that's that's that's that's my that's my
  • 00:18:41
    guy I did the subathon as well
  • 00:18:43
    that was
  • 00:18:45
    crazy how many days did that end up
  • 00:18:48
    being 31 31 full days
  • 00:18:51
    sleeping
  • 00:18:52
    eating pissing and [ __ ]
  • 00:18:55
    definitely the latter do you know about
  • 00:18:57
    that
  • 00:18:59
    should I I lived my life on stream for a
  • 00:19:01
    month and one night I was sleeping and I
  • 00:19:03
    woke up and I
  • 00:19:06
    cut myself
  • 00:19:08
    yeah I was alone for a month man I was
  • 00:19:11
    alone for a month every move was was
  • 00:19:13
    recorded maybe it wasn't like it wasn't
  • 00:19:15
    like a clip it's not like there was a
  • 00:19:16
    moment and it was like you know Shamu
  • 00:19:18
    jumping in water it was like it happened
  • 00:19:20
    I woke up and I was like damn was all
  • 00:19:24
    the chat like they didn't know oh that
  • 00:19:26
    was just a you moment it was a mean
  • 00:19:27
    moment they didn't know they didn't know
  • 00:19:28
    because I had blankets on me right so I
  • 00:19:30
    just got up and I was like and I walked
  • 00:19:32
    over it with the towel like the blanket
  • 00:19:34
    on me and I went to the bathroom and I
  • 00:19:36
    cleaned myself and then I came back and
  • 00:19:38
    I was very embarrassed but I am very
  • 00:19:40
    honest and upfront with my stream I feel
  • 00:19:43
    like it's an important part of being a
  • 00:19:44
    streamer did you mention it right away I
  • 00:19:46
    didn't because I was embarrassed you
  • 00:19:47
    took me about I would say until a week
  • 00:19:49
    after the subathon to come clean for
  • 00:19:51
    like the day it happened the whole day I
  • 00:19:53
    was like should I tell him should I talk
  • 00:19:55
    about it this happened did you feel like
  • 00:19:56
    they knew I I knew they didn't know so I
  • 00:19:58
    was like I'll tell them on my own time
  • 00:20:00
    but still it was on your mind what was
  • 00:20:02
    that feeling like after the 31 days of
  • 00:20:05
    being on camera afterwards were you like
  • 00:20:08
    oh [ __ ] I'm bored I openly wept did you
  • 00:20:11
    yeah I openly wept because I ended it I
  • 00:20:13
    had a big speech I'm a big speech guy
  • 00:20:14
    because I'm a theater kid so I did like
  • 00:20:17
    a big old speech thanked everyone for
  • 00:20:19
    being a part of it because you know it's
  • 00:20:20
    it's the first time I've ever been like
  • 00:20:22
    number one on Twitch not just in terms
  • 00:20:24
    of Subs but like in viewership uh news
  • 00:20:27
    article everything everyone was talking
  • 00:20:29
    about that's when that's actually when I
  • 00:20:31
    first heard about you everyone was
  • 00:20:32
    talking about Ludwig at that moment
  • 00:20:33
    right it was like a whirlwind of mostly
  • 00:20:36
    positivity and so like I just I just
  • 00:20:38
    like it was such a
  • 00:20:40
    great thing to like after just soak in
  • 00:20:43
    because after you and stream there's
  • 00:20:44
    still a chat and they're all just like
  • 00:20:45
    you know saluting and and feel strong
  • 00:20:50
    Manning and I just sat there and I just
  • 00:20:51
    wept openly for like 10 minutes so you
  • 00:20:54
    close the stream and then you just uh
  • 00:20:56
    just sat there it just didn't move just
  • 00:20:58
    cried just being happy they're just
  • 00:21:00
    happy what emotions were coming out like
  • 00:21:03
    a sense of achievement I think I think
  • 00:21:04
    it's probably and I've never been good
  • 00:21:06
    at anything physically ever but akin to
  • 00:21:09
    like winning a championship of sorts and
  • 00:21:12
    like instant emotions of like oh the
  • 00:21:14
    work has paid off but instead of
  • 00:21:16
    grinding football I myself and stayed
  • 00:21:21
    live for 31 days that really hits hard
  • 00:21:24
    you know almost I am stronger than the
  • 00:21:26
    Marines some have said
  • 00:21:28
    because you can hit harder I can hit
  • 00:21:31
    harder not nocturnally and I don't hit
  • 00:21:34
    women so right so that is a win-win win
  • 00:21:37
    win win win yeah that feel feeling of
  • 00:21:41
    achievement was it just
  • 00:21:44
    like I did something was it the Legacy
  • 00:21:46
    aspect of it it culminated in a moment
  • 00:21:49
    because it was the 31st day that I broke
  • 00:21:51
    the record and the 31st day that I had
  • 00:21:54
    like the largest viewership I ever had
  • 00:21:56
    200 000 people so it's just it's
  • 00:21:58
    overwhelming stimuli it's one of the few
  • 00:22:01
    times in life where there's such a clear
  • 00:22:03
    finite end to a positive thing uh and
  • 00:22:07
    like first for example streaming success
  • 00:22:10
    or YouTube success doesn't really have
  • 00:22:11
    that there's not like necessarily a
  • 00:22:13
    moment where you're like man we did that
  • 00:22:16
    no it's like okay next thing go go do
  • 00:22:20
    the next thing but this is something
  • 00:22:21
    that ended and it will never happen
  • 00:22:23
    again right so you get that opportunity
  • 00:22:26
    and then it all came crashing down
  • 00:22:27
    before the subathon I averaged 20 000
  • 00:22:29
    viewers in your head were you like this
  • 00:22:31
    is built like 200 000 people were
  • 00:22:33
    watching that's did you imagine that
  • 00:22:35
    would be your returning viewership I was
  • 00:22:37
    like hands up I'm like I'm the man now
  • 00:22:39
    like I kind of run this website so it's
  • 00:22:40
    like if you want to like get to the top
  • 00:22:42
    you kind of got to talk to me first 200
  • 00:22:44
    000 people are gonna be coming back to
  • 00:22:46
    see what Ludwig has to say and it took
  • 00:22:48
    me a while to figure it out and I was
  • 00:22:50
    like okay nobody actually cared about
  • 00:22:54
    the content I was making during the
  • 00:22:55
    subathon it was a news story it was an
  • 00:22:58
    event it was something to be a part of
  • 00:23:00
    but people cared much more about that
  • 00:23:03
    than me and without that when they saw
  • 00:23:06
    my content they were like I mean it's
  • 00:23:08
    all right and I was losing about an
  • 00:23:10
    average of a thousand followers a day
  • 00:23:12
    for the month after which really sucked
  • 00:23:16
    was your self-worth attached to that
  • 00:23:17
    like oh that means something about you I
  • 00:23:20
    think I put a lot of self-worth in a
  • 00:23:22
    viewership in those numbers yeah and so
  • 00:23:24
    very quickly in fact like the month
  • 00:23:26
    after I spent that whole month diverting
  • 00:23:29
    where I put my self-worth that was the
  • 00:23:32
    first thing I did I was like okay rather
  • 00:23:34
    than you know what let's lift myself up
  • 00:23:36
    on my bootstraps and try to make things
  • 00:23:38
    that people like and do another event
  • 00:23:39
    it's like I just got to stop caring
  • 00:23:41
    about a stupid number on a screen and so
  • 00:23:43
    that's when I made the podcast that I
  • 00:23:45
    did that's when I started working on
  • 00:23:46
    other projects it's where I conceived
  • 00:23:48
    like larger stream events right and I
  • 00:23:51
    was like okay let's be proud of making
  • 00:23:53
    something cool let's be proud of
  • 00:23:55
    uplifting those around us and let's not
  • 00:23:57
    be so proud about a number I'm still
  • 00:24:00
    like very aware that it's like oh I
  • 00:24:02
    still have a really dope job you know
  • 00:24:04
    yeah I still have it better than than so
  • 00:24:08
    many people because I think my job's in
  • 00:24:10
    like point zero zero one percent of cool
  • 00:24:11
    jobs I get to sit next to Anthony
  • 00:24:13
    Padilla thank you which is tight yeah a
  • 00:24:16
    lot of big augrin you nailed it were you
  • 00:24:19
    worried I'd say Padilla no but I was
  • 00:24:20
    worried I would say something wrong with
  • 00:24:22
    you no it's chill you got it you nailed
  • 00:24:23
    it yeah I knew you were good I picked up
  • 00:24:25
    my own name you have it's a Ludwig it's
  • 00:24:27
    Ludwig yeah that's how you say it that's
  • 00:24:29
    so funny Kathy she was like is it
  • 00:24:32
    pronounced Ludwig I was like nah it's
  • 00:24:33
    Ludwig I bastardized it when your
  • 00:24:36
    parents named you did they say this is
  • 00:24:38
    our beautiful child Ludwig my mom calls
  • 00:24:41
    me Ludwig she's French so she has a
  • 00:24:43
    French accent on the German root she
  • 00:24:45
    studied German yeah so she'll go when I
  • 00:24:47
    went to school
  • 00:24:48
    let me tell you those second graders
  • 00:24:51
    don't love the name Ludwig
  • 00:24:53
    that doesn't just roll off the tongue
  • 00:24:55
    for second graders doesn't resonate when
  • 00:24:57
    I showed up and I got a shipa monchier
  • 00:25:00
    some handmade you know French meal and I
  • 00:25:03
    open it up starts thinking of the
  • 00:25:04
    classroom everyone else got PB and J and
  • 00:25:06
    I'm the Ludwig guy get ostracized pretty
  • 00:25:08
    quick so like we gotta adapt here Mom we
  • 00:25:11
    gotta start it's PB and J's all right
  • 00:25:13
    I'll eat the crust not a big deal it's
  • 00:25:14
    Ludwig now you had an identity shift I
  • 00:25:17
    have to I have to I can't be this
  • 00:25:19
    European guy you assimilated into
  • 00:25:21
    American culture very quick you became
  • 00:25:23
    the Ludwig with the PB and J I had to be
  • 00:25:26
    a New Hampshire guy quickly got to
  • 00:25:28
    fentanyl all right that's a big thing
  • 00:25:29
    for New Hampshire rights gotta get there
  • 00:25:31
    quick you got to get there and it's got
  • 00:25:32
    to be quick if you're not hitting it by
  • 00:25:33
    10 you're not doing it right so so I
  • 00:25:36
    made all those changes real quick right
  • 00:25:38
    so that's why it's Ludwig bastardized
  • 00:25:40
    Padilla is Spanish it is Spanish because
  • 00:25:43
    you look Spanish oh I do yeah I'm a good
  • 00:25:46
    I'm a hefty percentage also Filipino
  • 00:25:49
    though because a lot of
  • 00:25:51
    Spaniards
  • 00:25:54
    conquered
  • 00:25:56
    they did a lot of colors there was a lot
  • 00:25:57
    of imperialism that happened and we can
  • 00:25:59
    talk happened to be the product of it
  • 00:26:01
    there were some Cochran I just found out
  • 00:26:02
    you didn't do no Cochran found out my
  • 00:26:04
    great great great great grandfather was
  • 00:26:07
    a priest who dabbled in Congress in um
  • 00:26:09
    in the Filipino women oh wow yes but it
  • 00:26:13
    also brought them God
  • 00:26:15
    and they love God so they brought me
  • 00:26:18
    close second yeah I can't imagine
  • 00:26:21
    there's much Filipino blood in you well
  • 00:26:24
    there's 15 really yeah I don't know how
  • 00:26:27
    you ended up like six two
  • 00:26:29
    that's crazy no I'm 5 11. are you I feel
  • 00:26:32
    like you're taller than me I have a
  • 00:26:33
    little bit I have a one inch heel it's
  • 00:26:35
    an illusion
  • 00:26:37
    no you are not 511 you're lying how tall
  • 00:26:39
    are you I'm six foot three
  • 00:26:42
    you're actually not five eleven I
  • 00:26:44
    promise you you're not how you're not
  • 00:26:46
    you're wrong you know what take off my I
  • 00:26:49
    have a little one incher here
  • 00:26:51
    I think you take off that one inch or
  • 00:26:52
    you're still six foot flat you're six
  • 00:26:55
    months how have I been measured five
  • 00:26:56
    eleven my whole life
  • 00:26:59
    I'm six foot they lied to oh they didn't
  • 00:27:01
    want me to have a modeling career
  • 00:27:02
    because they knew I would be unstoppable
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    the Liberals
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    they're trying to deceive again yo I
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    p-a-d-i-l-l-a now back to the world of
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    Ludwig so how does it feel now with this
  • 00:27:55
    upward trajectory in your career
  • 00:27:57
    Everything feels like it's it's climbing
  • 00:27:59
    and climbing climbing right yeah I tell
  • 00:28:01
    myself every day that it's all going to
  • 00:28:02
    crash and burn does that make you enjoy
  • 00:28:04
    it less no I think it makes me excited
  • 00:28:06
    to work harder so it doesn't Crash and
  • 00:28:08
    Burn sooner but it will crash and burn
  • 00:28:11
    and I know that so might as well do
  • 00:28:14
    everything I can to stop that right you
  • 00:28:16
    know it will eventually
  • 00:28:19
    not be the same I will fall off right I
  • 00:28:21
    will felt off like Gucci for sure you'll
  • 00:28:24
    be L ratio no crypto no hoes it's kind
  • 00:28:28
    of
  • 00:28:30
    silly to not accept that into like you
  • 00:28:33
    know what kick and scream because you're
  • 00:28:35
    40 years old and people want to watch
  • 00:28:36
    someone who's 20. yeah and the other 40
  • 00:28:38
    year olds are taking care of children
  • 00:28:40
    like what what do you want like that's
  • 00:28:42
    that's how things go and something that
  • 00:28:44
    brings me Comfort is like I'll ask
  • 00:28:47
    people it's like name five actors that
  • 00:28:49
    were popular 80 years ago and it's like
  • 00:28:52
    you know it's tough yeah Marlon Brando
  • 00:28:55
    right my list is getting thin yeah
  • 00:28:58
    and so it'll be the same thing
  • 00:29:01
    presumably 80 years from now and I think
  • 00:29:04
    this is a huge issue specifically with
  • 00:29:06
    like streaming YouTubers it's like let
  • 00:29:07
    me cement the Legacy let me last as long
  • 00:29:08
    as possible right you're not gonna do
  • 00:29:10
    that all right Alexander the Great
  • 00:29:13
    you're not conquering all of YouTube
  • 00:29:14
    maybe that's how Mr Beast thinks but
  • 00:29:16
    like I mean he might have a legacy
  • 00:29:18
    there's a time for him too though right
  • 00:29:19
    presumably in the future no matter what
  • 00:29:22
    the date is and does it matter how long
  • 00:29:24
    it is so it's like okay is the Joy from
  • 00:29:27
    cementing the greatest Legacy possible I
  • 00:29:29
    think no oh I think it's like okay let's
  • 00:29:31
    enjoy the ride and then bring as many
  • 00:29:33
    people along for the ride as possible
  • 00:29:35
    what brings you the most Joy about what
  • 00:29:37
    you do what you put out into the world
  • 00:29:38
    so my main motivation when I first
  • 00:29:40
    started doing YouTube was that I
  • 00:29:42
    uploaded every day and I had joy in the
  • 00:29:46
    streak because I had a streak of two
  • 00:29:48
    years where I uploaded every day and I
  • 00:29:51
    was like I gotta keep this streak alive
  • 00:29:53
    and then one day I was like man I'm
  • 00:29:55
    pumping out some [ __ ] right really
  • 00:29:58
    some some stuff's getting through the
  • 00:30:01
    sieve here so so I I was like let me
  • 00:30:03
    break the streak and then I kind of lost
  • 00:30:05
    purpose for a while and then ever since
  • 00:30:07
    I started the company and I have you
  • 00:30:09
    know the employees that I have it's like
  • 00:30:11
    my new motivation is succeeding
  • 00:30:15
    to cement their jobs into into and like
  • 00:30:19
    it's a pressure that pushes me do you
  • 00:30:21
    feel that too a pressure for sure do you
  • 00:30:24
    like it do you like it
  • 00:30:28
    I
  • 00:30:31
    I I do but I think that I try not to
  • 00:30:34
    think too much about how every decision
  • 00:30:36
    I make can potentially dictate someone
  • 00:30:39
    else's life and financial stability
  • 00:30:41
    because I think that it could make me a
  • 00:30:44
    little nervous about taking risks and I
  • 00:30:45
    feel like the only reason if you ever
  • 00:30:47
    stop doing interviews they'll lose their
  • 00:30:48
    livelihoods Anthony you have to do one
  • 00:30:50
    every single week until you die they
  • 00:30:52
    will lose their jobs they will lose
  • 00:30:54
    their families the animals are leaving
  • 00:30:57
    [ __ ] you have to save them every week
  • 00:30:59
    every week come back every single week
  • 00:31:01
    and every video better get more views
  • 00:31:03
    than the last or my entire Workforce is
  • 00:31:07
    is that the darkest thought is that like
  • 00:31:10
    the worst case
  • 00:31:11
    like that you cannot explore new things
  • 00:31:13
    because that's you know my my actual I
  • 00:31:15
    think that my worst case scenario is
  • 00:31:17
    that for some reason one day I wake up
  • 00:31:19
    and I'm like I don't want to do this
  • 00:31:20
    anymore and then I'm like
  • 00:31:22
    but I have 10 employees so you're you
  • 00:31:25
    want maybe one day want to wake up and
  • 00:31:26
    then move to to the Dominican Republic
  • 00:31:29
    and just have a new life or just maybe
  • 00:31:31
    do something else totally new I think I
  • 00:31:34
    never want to stop
  • 00:31:35
    exploring what I'm capable of Right
  • 00:31:38
    Where I can go creatively new ways to
  • 00:31:42
    express myself new ways to challenge
  • 00:31:43
    myself that's when I feel the most alive
  • 00:31:46
    you've exited a YouTube before I have
  • 00:31:48
    you sold but those weren't my employees
  • 00:31:50
    those were a larger company I was the
  • 00:31:54
    employee actually technically at that
  • 00:31:55
    point really yes yes because we sold
  • 00:31:58
    Smosh in 2011 for stock which ended up
  • 00:32:01
    being worth zero dollars and I became an
  • 00:32:04
    employee so I feel like I had the
  • 00:32:06
    freedom to make the decision of this
  • 00:32:08
    isn't working I'm stepping away I feel
  • 00:32:10
    like I I have a fear when things aren't
  • 00:32:12
    going well that things are going to
  • 00:32:13
    always be bad right and then when things
  • 00:32:15
    are going good I have a fear that things
  • 00:32:17
    won't always go good yeah so I I think I
  • 00:32:19
    think similarly like I got the pressure
  • 00:32:21
    too
  • 00:32:22
    and so that's why
  • 00:32:24
    like yeah maybe one day I do want to
  • 00:32:25
    wake up and not to it yeah so it's like
  • 00:32:27
    okay that's why I got to create my exit
  • 00:32:29
    plan right which right now is off brand
  • 00:32:32
    and if that succeeds that's a great Exit
  • 00:32:33
    Plan yeah if it doesn't I need a new one
  • 00:32:35
    but that's also not the worst case
  • 00:32:36
    scenario because you it sounds like you
  • 00:32:38
    enjoy trying out music yeah so if this
  • 00:32:41
    fails
  • 00:32:42
    is that everything you know do you feel
  • 00:32:44
    like you're putting all your eggs in one
  • 00:32:45
    basket here I think if it fails that'd
  • 00:32:47
    be cool you know what I like is when
  • 00:32:49
    something fails okay this is gonna sound
  • 00:32:52
    weird I've been super okay with the idea
  • 00:32:54
    of being cheated on like in a
  • 00:32:56
    relationship yeah I'd be super down to
  • 00:32:58
    be cheated on not because I have a
  • 00:33:01
    cuckold fantasy but because I would 100
  • 00:33:05
    know without a doubt that this was meant
  • 00:33:08
    to fail and it should not have been a
  • 00:33:10
    thing and now I will never have to ever
  • 00:33:12
    question that ever and so it's true you
  • 00:33:14
    know companies are like another point in
  • 00:33:17
    your life like with relationships yeah
  • 00:33:19
    where where like if you try it and it
  • 00:33:22
    fails at least you know for sure that
  • 00:33:24
    you gave it a shot and now you can try
  • 00:33:26
    something new that's true you know and a
  • 00:33:28
    lot of people and I was even like this
  • 00:33:30
    in my relationships I think we all were
  • 00:33:31
    at some point it's like it's not working
  • 00:33:33
    out then you're like oh please let's
  • 00:33:35
    make this work we could just let's just
  • 00:33:36
    let's just do these things and the other
  • 00:33:38
    person's like nah it's not working
  • 00:33:39
    you're just like well maybe we can like
  • 00:33:41
    go to couples counseling and we can make
  • 00:33:43
    it's like
  • 00:33:44
    you're trying so hard
  • 00:33:47
    when
  • 00:33:49
    you know maybe even deep down I didn't
  • 00:33:50
    think it was gonna work yeah he was like
  • 00:33:52
    why don't why don't I just admit to
  • 00:33:54
    myself and the other person
  • 00:33:57
    that it's like it was a good run I I
  • 00:33:59
    appreciate you and the time that we had
  • 00:34:02
    and doesn't need to necessarily be the
  • 00:34:04
    heartbreaking thing of oh no my life is
  • 00:34:07
    forever different yeah I did that for
  • 00:34:09
    like 18 months at song and dance in
  • 00:34:10
    college with a girlfriend I had at the
  • 00:34:12
    time and it was like oh well you know I
  • 00:34:14
    don't I don't ever want to not put
  • 00:34:16
    enough effort and be the reason it
  • 00:34:18
    doesn't work but there's no line where
  • 00:34:20
    it's like oh you've put the correct
  • 00:34:21
    amount of effort you can now end it and
  • 00:34:23
    and so when she cheated on me it was
  • 00:34:25
    like terrible but then I was also like
  • 00:34:27
    damn this is sick because now I am free
  • 00:34:30
    from the responsibility of trying to
  • 00:34:32
    make it work and you're not having to
  • 00:34:34
    ruminate on what ifs yes and I think I
  • 00:34:37
    have the same mentality making a company
  • 00:34:40
    but a company is much more black and
  • 00:34:41
    white yeah because there's it's not like
  • 00:34:43
    oh let's try to make it work and then
  • 00:34:45
    you you drag it along for a while like
  • 00:34:47
    it usually just violently implodes what
  • 00:34:50
    if it's not succeeding what is the
  • 00:34:52
    equivalent of getting cheated on the
  • 00:34:54
    equivalent of getting cheated on is like
  • 00:34:55
    you go bankrupt okay that's the worst
  • 00:34:58
    case scenario it's a non-profitable
  • 00:35:00
    company for a long stretch of time no
  • 00:35:02
    one wants to invest in it and then like
  • 00:35:04
    what are you supposed to do I have a
  • 00:35:05
    question for you yo what's that tell me
  • 00:35:07
    it's my Icebreaker question oh oh so now
  • 00:35:09
    that we're at the end of the interview
  • 00:35:10
    you're ready to break the ice finally
  • 00:35:11
    what is your Vice my advice you mean
  • 00:35:14
    weed is that it
  • 00:35:16
    you said it quick it could be it is that
  • 00:35:19
    the type of thing do you mean do you
  • 00:35:20
    mean like the weed that I smoke
  • 00:35:22
    vices generally yeah the thing that you
  • 00:35:25
    do that is in immoral or a fact that's
  • 00:35:27
    not good for you that you do too much of
  • 00:35:29
    or yeah partake in frequently
  • 00:35:32
    um so it's weed I would say it is weed
  • 00:35:34
    but I do but it's a weird it's a weird
  • 00:35:37
    little internal battle that I have
  • 00:35:38
    because I'm like I want to get to the to
  • 00:35:40
    a point like my goal my goal in life is
  • 00:35:43
    to have every moment that I'm in
  • 00:35:47
    exists only within that moment so what
  • 00:35:50
    I'm saying is when you say something to
  • 00:35:51
    me
  • 00:35:52
    and I get defensive because you said
  • 00:35:55
    something that kind of reminded me of
  • 00:35:57
    something that happened in my past and
  • 00:35:59
    then like you should know better I want
  • 00:36:01
    to get to a point where you could say
  • 00:36:03
    anything to me and I take nothing
  • 00:36:05
    personally because none of my [ __ ] from
  • 00:36:07
    my past is still with me now I'm able to
  • 00:36:09
    assess it based on the the moments
  • 00:36:13
    happening right now yeah that's like
  • 00:36:15
    Peak communication that's like radiant
  • 00:36:17
    and valorant levels of calms I'm ready
  • 00:36:19
    to get there Ash is here yeah that
  • 00:36:21
    that'd be tight are you think you're
  • 00:36:23
    close no not at all but I think the fact
  • 00:36:26
    that I want that and then I'm kind of
  • 00:36:28
    every time that someone says something
  • 00:36:29
    I'm like I feel like I can get back to
  • 00:36:31
    the source and most times I can get back
  • 00:36:33
    to the source of where did that that
  • 00:36:35
    emotion develop is weed a shortcut to
  • 00:36:38
    that or unrelated weed is a way for me
  • 00:36:41
    to avoid thinking about those things so
  • 00:36:44
    it's kind of a relief from that okay I
  • 00:36:46
    want to get to a point where where I
  • 00:36:48
    don't need any Vice
  • 00:36:50
    yeah to escape yeah from an emotion that
  • 00:36:54
    I don't want to feel I think a lot of
  • 00:36:56
    times too it's boredom so then sometimes
  • 00:36:57
    I'll be like
  • 00:36:59
    I'm gonna smoke this thing and then I
  • 00:37:01
    can kind of check out and you know what
  • 00:37:03
    I'm not even gonna be able to work in my
  • 00:37:04
    Peak Performance anyway so I can relax
  • 00:37:06
    it's kind of a shortcut to relax I think
  • 00:37:08
    that's similar for me yeah yeah I'll pop
  • 00:37:11
    a gummy because I you know I worked at a
  • 00:37:14
    vape company it's not great for the
  • 00:37:16
    lungs right and I think it's for me it's
  • 00:37:18
    like I want to be able to enjoy like I
  • 00:37:20
    like watching anime yeah it's like I
  • 00:37:22
    want to watch this and I want to just be
  • 00:37:24
    watching this and enjoying this it's
  • 00:37:26
    like a shortcut to be present yes as
  • 00:37:28
    opposed to like like if I'm not it's
  • 00:37:30
    like someone hits me up and they're like
  • 00:37:32
    oh we need a quick intro for the video
  • 00:37:33
    I'm like okay I'll go do that I'll go do
  • 00:37:35
    this I don't really have that option I'm
  • 00:37:37
    not gonna go do it high
  • 00:37:39
    yeah but but that's like my shortcut to
  • 00:37:42
    be able to I think enjoy things at a
  • 00:37:44
    higher level so that's my advice that's
  • 00:37:46
    your advice similar similar advice
  • 00:37:47
    actually and for a similar reason yeah
  • 00:37:49
    because we're too goddamn creative and
  • 00:37:51
    um get bored at the idea of not being
  • 00:37:53
    able to work and it's our excuses
  • 00:37:55
    California is to just say we like
  • 00:37:56
    getting high true because it's legal and
  • 00:37:58
    I could say it and I can do it because
  • 00:38:01
    it's legal and if you're watching from
  • 00:38:03
    Malaysia we didn't we don't do that no
  • 00:38:05
    no we're against it okay I'll ask you
  • 00:38:07
    some you know what go for it what
  • 00:38:09
    Creator have you not liked working with
  • 00:38:10
    and when you interview that sucked
  • 00:38:11
    besides this interview
  • 00:38:14
    yeah no I think that the the toughest
  • 00:38:16
    part sometimes is that with certain
  • 00:38:18
    creators there's
  • 00:38:20
    a lack of communication and I'm trying
  • 00:38:23
    to guess if they if like what time is
  • 00:38:25
    going to work and that kind of thing but
  • 00:38:26
    for the most part I haven't ran into
  • 00:38:27
    it's mostly like they are
  • 00:38:30
    like streamers is it streamers usually
  • 00:38:32
    they're just busy people is it streamers
  • 00:38:34
    see I know you're trying to find like a
  • 00:38:36
    specific name but there's no specific
  • 00:38:38
    that comes up we can drag them right
  • 00:38:40
    right is it right yeah like Hassan you
  • 00:38:42
    know I'm not talking about Hassan
  • 00:38:43
    specifically was it he could be bad at
  • 00:38:45
    that he could be bad at communicating
  • 00:38:47
    no I mean some people you gotta like
  • 00:38:49
    speak with them over a voice Channel and
  • 00:38:52
    then they're a human that gives you
  • 00:38:53
    their attention they are human but if
  • 00:38:55
    you are a message in their inbox but if
  • 00:38:56
    you are a message you are just a text
  • 00:38:58
    floating in the sky yes yeah that
  • 00:39:00
    they'll read and be like I'll get to you
  • 00:39:01
    later and then yeah yeah but I
  • 00:39:03
    completely understand it too you won't
  • 00:39:04
    put them on blast I forgive everyone
  • 00:39:06
    that is wrong to me if Anthony Padilla
  • 00:39:08
    sends you a message you don't reply
  • 00:39:09
    within 60 seconds you just don't care no
  • 00:39:11
    I block you I I respect that I block you
  • 00:39:15
    do you want to know something
  • 00:39:15
    embarrassing what I ignored your message
  • 00:39:18
    for the first few days you have to
  • 00:39:20
    re-ping me because I didn't think that
  • 00:39:23
    you were Anthony Padilla what on Discord
  • 00:39:26
    you have this like anime profile picture
  • 00:39:28
    my YouTuber icon so I thought you were
  • 00:39:31
    just like a viewer that happened to
  • 00:39:33
    friend me and you sent a vague message
  • 00:39:36
    that was like when are we doing the call
  • 00:39:38
    I'm like I'm not doing a call with your
  • 00:39:39
    head ass like who are you and I ignored
  • 00:39:41
    it and then you followed up and I was
  • 00:39:43
    like oh that's Anthony my Anime Avatar
  • 00:39:46
    didn't I didn't I didn't think that you
  • 00:39:49
    would have an Anime Avatar I didn't
  • 00:39:50
    think about like how you're like this is
  • 00:39:52
    a professional man I thought you would
  • 00:39:54
    be like you know I didn't think you're
  • 00:39:55
    in the space enough to like have that so
  • 00:39:58
    I didn't even I didn't even consider
  • 00:39:59
    that it was you and then I hit you up a
  • 00:40:00
    few days later you're like oh sorry I
  • 00:40:02
    missed this yeah I lied what actually
  • 00:40:04
    happened is I hard ass ignored it
  • 00:40:05
    because I was like I'm glad we could
  • 00:40:07
    address this today and know that you
  • 00:40:09
    straight up left me on red I have to
  • 00:40:10
    come clean I left you on red I didn't
  • 00:40:12
    think that was you so when you asked me
  • 00:40:13
    who the worst person to ever interview
  • 00:40:15
    was and to communicate with it would be
  • 00:40:17
    uh Ludwig sitting here in the room hey
  • 00:40:19
    how's it going welcome welcome to the
  • 00:40:22
    worse guess you know we have a PB J over
  • 00:40:25
    there ready for you I think two I would
  • 00:40:26
    love a pizza on the way out I love it
  • 00:40:28
    not even mad about that yeah yeah I'll
  • 00:40:31
    take that
  • 00:40:34
    dude your tattoos are cool thank you
  • 00:40:38
    I just got I just got so many more but I
  • 00:40:40
    went all the way down I went all the way
  • 00:40:42
    oh this thing I'm all the way down to
  • 00:40:44
    what was that
  • 00:40:46
    what a strap my bra strap
  • 00:40:50
    so I don't have to have a visible I
  • 00:40:53
    thought this make your pecs look good
  • 00:40:54
    that's genius no it might be sure it
  • 00:40:58
    might work it definitely it's it's a
  • 00:41:00
    little upper
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