Should You Fix Your Old Car? Is it Worth It?

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Summary

TLDRThe video discusses the rationale behind deciding whether to fix an old car that appears to need repairs costing more than its market value. The primary takeaway is that a car should be viewed not as an investment but as a functional tool whose maintenance decisions depend on the owner's needs and situation. Mechanics should offer professional advice but not make the repair decision for owners. You should gather extensive information about the carโ€™s condition, potential future issues, repair costs, and what you might buy instead before deciding. Consider the value of familiarity with your current car and the lack of new car payments against the potential for future repairs and insurance issues. Itโ€™s important to have a clear plan, including when to exit ownership if a car becomes unviable, ideally around the 10-year or 100,000-mile mark. Informed, planned decisions based on your circumstances, rather than just looking at the car's book value, lead to better outcomes.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ”ง Always gather data on repair costs and potential future issues before deciding.
  • ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ”ง Mechanics should guide, not dictate decisions about car repairs.
  • ๐Ÿ’ก Consider a car as a tool, not an investment.
  • ๐Ÿ’ฐ Look at pros such as no new payments and cons like insurance issues.
  • ๐Ÿš— Exit ownership ideally at 10 years or 100,000 miles to avoid excessive costs.
  • ๐Ÿ” Research market options to understand replacement vs repair value.
  • ๐Ÿ›  Have a clear maintenance plan and stick to it.
  • ๐Ÿ“… Know your plan for how long you'll keep the car after a major repair.
  • ๐Ÿ“Š Compare total potential repair costs with the car's current market value.
  • โš ๏ธ Consider your long-term plans and financial situation when making a decision.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The video begins by addressing the common question of whether an old car is worth fixing. The presenter emphasizes that deciding whether to fix a car based on its worth compared to repair costs is not necessarily straightforward. It's highlighted that mechanics should not decide for car owners whether a car is worth fixing; instead, their role is to provide the car owner with all the necessary information to make an informed decision. The speaker acknowledges that many people feel uncertain when it comes to car repairs but stresses the importance of understanding that owning a car is personal responsibility, and decisions should be made based on data.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The discussion moves to the financial considerations of repairing a car. The presenter compares the cost of repairing an old car to buying a new or slightly more expensive used car. They point out that sometimes spending money on your current car makes more sense than buying another used car that might soon have similar issues. The value of being familiar with your car and its maintenance history is discussed, as well as the types of car owners who either change cars frequently or prefer to maintain a car over many years. Thought processes regarding significant repairs and the pros and cons of investing in an old car are explored, including the importance of safety and comprehensive mechanical inspection.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:17:04

    Finally, the video covers the risks and realities of investing in an old car, such as insurance coverage not meeting repair investment, potential future repair needs, and how one's treatment of a car affects its longevity. The presenter advises getting a full inspection and potential second opinions, having a clear plan for car ownership, and understanding the tipping point where continuing repairs may no longer be feasible. They conclude by urging viewers to gather all necessary information, including current market options, before deciding whether to repair or replace their car. The video promotes logical decision-making, understanding that cars are tools rather than investments, and having a predefined plan for vehicle ownership.

Mind Map

Video Q&A

  • What should be the first step in deciding if my old car is worth fixing?

    Gather all relevant information about the car's current and potential future issues and compare repair costs.

  • What role does the mechanic play in deciding whether to fix a car or not?

    The mechanic should provide a professional opinion, diagnosis, and estimate but not make the decision for the owner.

  • Is it unethical for a mechanic to decide if a car is worth fixing?

    Yes, it's considered unethical; the mechanic's role is to provide information only.

  • How should I view my car when deciding on repairs?

    Consider it not as an investment but as a tool to be maintained based on the plan and usage.

  • Does keeping a car mean it's a good investment?

    Not necessarily; keeping a car is about utility rather than financial investment.

  • What are some pros of fixing an old car?

    No new car payments and familiarity with the carโ€™s history are pros of fixing an old car.

  • What are potential cons of investing in an old car?

    Potential cons include additional unforeseen repairs and not getting the repair investment back if the car is totaled.

  • When should I ideally exit owning an old car?

    Ideally, exit around the point when a car is 10 years old or has 100,000 miles.

  • Why is having a plan important when owning an old car?

    A plan helps in deciding investment in repairs and the eventual time for selling the car to avoid excessive costs.

  • Why is viewing a car as an investment a poor rationale?

    Because you typically lose money on cars over time, seeing them as tools rather than investments is wiser.

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    is your old car worth fixing this is a
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    question I get asked all the time at the
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    shop here's a typical scenario you have
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    a car that's worth
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    $4,000 needs an engine engine's
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    $88,000 most people will look at the
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    scenario they will immediately say this
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    is not worth it we are not totaling the
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    car and in some cases that'd be right in
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    some cases actually very wrong and this
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    is something we're going to talk about
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    in this video how do you actually decide
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    what is worth fixing and what is it's
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    not worth it let's move on from this car
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    because there's a lot of factors in a
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    lot involved and this is this
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    conversation will stems from my actual
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    experience seeing how customers analyze
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    things either way and I'll share with
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    you some advice and the most important
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    thing which we're going to start with
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    right after
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    this and the most important thing is
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    before we even begin talking about
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    anything no mechanic should tell you
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    your car is worth fixing or it's not
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    worth fixing to me that is actually
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    unethical believe it or not some people
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    will not like this but that's
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    okay my job is to tell you what's wrong
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    with the car my job is to advise you
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    what is the scope of this work my job is
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    to equip you as the car owner with all
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    the the relevant information needed for
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    you to make that
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    determination I may suggest whe Le in
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    one way or another but I will never tell
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    you that flat out because that is not
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    right I don't get to decide what is
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    worth it and what's not I get to give
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    you my professional opinion diagnosis
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    estimate with it and give you advice and
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    have you make that decision I see so
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    many people feel like they're helpless
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    when it comes to their car repair and
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    decisions like that you should never be
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    helpless it's your car it's your
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    finances it's your decision you have to
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    make that decision you know I see so
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    many folks that have made so many big
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    decisions in their life and they're
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    super successful in their careers they
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    struggle to make a small decision about
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    their car never be that person in that's
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    power to the people you're the owner of
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    the car you must make these decisions my
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    job is to give you all the information
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    to make the right decision based on
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    actual data from the car with that let's
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    talk about is your car worth fixing old
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    car here's the general mentality of
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    folks car is an investment I will never
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    total my car this repair totals my car
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    over it's actually not a good way to
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    look at
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    it because if you really look at a car
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    as an investment unless you're buying
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    rare Exotics and Ferraris and
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    Lamborghinis that there's two and three
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    off car is never an investment you will
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    always lose money on a car flat
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    out just let that sink in for a second
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    there's not a lot of people that make
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    money out of buying a car using it then
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    selling it and for a profit and moving
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    on that is a fantasy just so you
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    know car
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    dealers may be able to do that but not
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    average average
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    job if you're buying a car for the sake
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    of flipping it that takes a lot more
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    work than just driving in the car for a
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    few months and selling it just so you
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    know that and usually there is gray
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    areas involved with that with that
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    said you need to take a logical look at
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    everything you got to a point in your
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    car where it has major repairs and every
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    car will will come to a point in its
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    life and we're talking about cars you're
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    keeping 10 15-year-old Car Plus it comes
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    to a point where so many stuff file up
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    and they all come needed as the same
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    time that it's going to be a big build
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    of repair and that's the point where you
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    can't pick and choose what you do cuz I
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    see people do this all the time certain
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    things you can easily push repair
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    wise but when it all piles up and
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    they're all essential stuff you can't
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    pick and choose what we're going to do
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    you either fix the car right and keep it
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    or move on from it don't start doing
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    half methods and half repairs and look
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    for a discount and look for a cheaper
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    way to mend it just to keep going that's
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    not a good idea because in the
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    end you're not going to come ahead
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    because you're going to waste your time
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    which most people don't think about
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    you're going to waste potentially your
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    safety and your family's safety and
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    that's not good there come a point where
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    you got to make that decision and I will
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    share with you some of the thought
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    processes of the folks that I've talked
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    to almost daily fortunately we that's
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    how car or business is making these
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    decisions and rationalizing
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    sometimes you got to rationalize things
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    because kind of one of those things
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    where you make a decision and you stick
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    with it and we hope for the best that's
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    when it comes to car it comes down to
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    this so here's a
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    scenario you got a car to or $4,000 on
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    the market
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    today it piled up repairs where it needs
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    5 6,000 worth of
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    repairs ideally we wouldn't want to get
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    it to this point but every car will
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    somehow find its way to get into to that
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    point don't immediately jump
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    into I'm not totaling my I'm not
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    spending more than what the car is worth
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    I'm just going to sell it buy something
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    else cuz the number one question I want
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    you to ask yourself is what are you
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    going to
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    buy you're going to buy a car just like
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    it most people's rationale will be well
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    my car is worth 4,000 I'm about to spend
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    5,000 on it that's 9,000 let me go buy
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    something for
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    9,000 if that's your thought process I
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    would like you to reconsider
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    because whatever you're going to go buy
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    for 9,000 is a year away from becoming a
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    $4,000 car with that needs $55,000 worth
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    of repairs you ever think about that CU
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    that's actually the
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    case when we're looking at a small
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    spread in price range even though you
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    have a $4,000 car and you're looking at
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    $8,000 cars in your mind you are
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    thinking I'm buying double the car in
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    value but in reality you're buying a two
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    three-year-old newer car from what you
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    already have so there come a point where
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    you need to
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    decide what kind of owner are you are
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    you the kind of owner that keeps buying
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    old cars that are broken down
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    endangering the safety of your family
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    and everybody around you and just never
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    fix anything and then after a year sell
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    it and buy another one sell it and buy
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    another one cuz there people like that
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    there's nothing wrong with that
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    everybody has their own choices and I
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    get it are you the kind of person that
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    buys a car and wants to keep it for 15
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    20 years because if you're that person
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    when your old car that you've had for 15
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    20 years comes to that point your first
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    thought may be well I'm just going to go
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    buy a new car and keep it for another 15
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    20 years if you are that
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    person I would actually advise you to
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    think about it because unless you're
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    going to go buy something significantly
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    better than your
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    car then it may make sense to actually
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    keep your old car if things are not
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    that's a big question mark if the reason
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    your car needs so much work is because
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    things caught up it's multiple small
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    things that just added up to a big Bill
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    not really structural stuff or the car
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    is super Rusty or and this is where your
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    mechanic that is inspecting the car
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    needs to tell you this flat out this car
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    is beyond its mechanical limits when I
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    get a car in the shop that has holes in
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    the frame like a truck
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    I take that as this is beyond its
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    mechanical limits let me tell you why
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    some folks will
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    disagree yes you can go and weld pieces
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    structural stuff just to keep the frame
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    going and we'll be okay but all you're
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    doing there is just hiding the rust that
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    is already there there is no going
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    around it the only way to repair
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    properly is to replace that frame which
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    is a Monumental task which basically
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    you're better off getting rid of this
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    car and buying another one that doesn't
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    have rust that is one scenario another
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    scenario I'll tell you an exact scenario
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    you have a Camry needs struts needs a
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    rack and pinion has some transmission
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    leak needs an axle needs brakes needs
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    tires
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    needs some other suspension work
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    something small Drive belts tensioner
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    well that adds up very quickly all of a
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    sudden you have a $4,000 car that needs
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    $5,000 worth a repair Believe It or Not
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    things are getting very expensive folks
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    we're not even talking about a major
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    engine rebuil or it needs a transmission
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    or it needs all that talking about just
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    things that piled up when it comes to
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    putting a lot of money into an old car
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    there's pros and there's cons let's talk
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    about them the pros you don't have a car
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    payment you don't go finance a car that
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    costs four or five times more and now
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    you have to take a loan and do all that
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    or bought a new one now you're making
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    monthly payments you're just not ready
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    you don't want it that I understand
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    another Pro is this is a car you know
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    especially if you've owned it for a long
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    time you're you know it service history
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    you know how you've taken care of it if
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    you didn't if you neglected it of course
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    you know that but if you've taken care
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    of it and you got to this point you know
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    this car if your plan was to buy a
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    similar
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    car in the same Mar same price range or
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    a little bit more than that price range
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    wouldn't you rather keep the one you
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    actually know and you had for a long
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    time that's that's some of the pros of
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    keep spending money in a car that is old
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    but the cons are number one is which is
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    the biggest thing which is this one is
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    many folks don't think about
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    insurance you have a $4,000 car you just
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    spend 5,000 on
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    it here comes the distracted driver on
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    their phone crashes into the car totals
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    your car what do you think insurance
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    compan is going to pay you they're going
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    to pay you 4,000 and when you give them
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    the receipt of the 5,000 you just spend
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    they'll look at you and be like okay
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    we'll give you $200 more and that's
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    within their right because if you go
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    right now and buy a car in similar age
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    and miles to your car this is how much
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    you pay for it and that's all they're
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    going to pay you so you basically lost
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    your entire I don't want to call it
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    investment your entire money that you
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    put into it so that's another
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    consideration where do you live what
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    kind of drivers do you have around you
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    do you live in the big city with
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    everybody distracted or do you live out
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    in the countryside where things are more
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    calm there's less accidents you got to
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    think about this Stu the other con is
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    and this is also important did the
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    person that inspected your car actually
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    go into depth and and kind of analyze
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    the whole car and kind of look at the
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    long-term reliability of this car
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    because if they didn't you could be
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    putting bad money after bad plat out
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    because if your engine is gone and
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    you're debating should we rebuild this
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    engine should we replace it or not I
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    don't even in that case when I have a
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    car like that in front of me I don't
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    even look to the engine it's done
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    there's nothing to do there what about
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    the rest of the car that's what I worry
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    about cuz if you're going to put all
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    kinds of money to fix an engine how is
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    the suspension how is the transmission
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    how are the tires how are the brakes cuz
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    if you all of a sudden do this engine
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    and you were not aware that there's all
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    this other stuff wrong with the car and
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    then 6 months later we got to spend
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    another $5,000 to do it well maybe you
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    could have made a different decision
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    from the beginning and the last thing I
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    will leave you with in some
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    cases I driving to that point is my old
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    car worth
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    fixing it might be
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    self-inflicted every person owns a car
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    deep deep inside sometimes they'll never
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    admit to it they know how they treated
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    that car did you take care of
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    it did you neglect it CU you were busy
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    you didn't know or you just it'll be
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    fine I'll be fine if you did that don't
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    you think it's a good idea to possibly
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    move on and some folks will say well
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    that's not ethical you're going to send
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    your problem to somebody else no you're
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    going to trade in the car whoever buys
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    it you need to fully disclose everything
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    you know about the car and move on some
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    folks will be okay with that there's all
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    kinds of folks from all kinds of walks
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    of life but if you actually took care of
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    this car and you did your absolute best
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    and every car will arrive at that at
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    some point that's the Tipping Point
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    where I need a full picture and in that
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    case even get a second opinion if you're
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    not sure about your mechanic to make
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    sure that they gave you a full proper
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    inspection in this car to anticipate as
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    much as possible it's never 100% but to
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    fully anticipate what is the road map
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    for this car going to be for the next 5
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    years we're speaking of years what is
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    your plan so I always say this what is
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    the plan with this car see we said it in
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    the previous video and I'll say it again
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    don't own a car until the wheels fall
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    off I don't want my wheels to fall off
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    off it's kind of
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    dangerous have a plan I'm going to put
  • 00:13:33
    this money in this car I'm going to keep
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    it for 5 years and at the end of the 5
  • 00:13:39
    years regardless of how good this car is
  • 00:13:41
    I am selling it I'm going to go buy a
  • 00:13:42
    brand new car and keep it for 152
  • 00:13:45
    years that's a plan because you also
  • 00:13:49
    don't want to run a car so down that it
  • 00:13:52
    becomes Valu
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    less there's a point where you exit and
  • 00:13:58
    this is this exit out of a car is it
  • 00:14:00
    happens when the car is around 10 years
  • 00:14:02
    old just around 100,000 Mi this is a
  • 00:14:06
    deciding point of a car cuz that's when
  • 00:14:08
    your car tips
  • 00:14:11
    from a not old car to an older car we're
  • 00:14:15
    starting to get some age some miles on
  • 00:14:17
    this car cars values usually dip around
  • 00:14:21
    that Mark and if you're going to exit
  • 00:14:23
    out of a car that would be the ideal
  • 00:14:25
    time to exit and move on kind of cash
  • 00:14:27
    out and go into something else
  • 00:14:29
    but beyond that point you are usually
  • 00:14:33
    going to end up spending more than the
  • 00:14:34
    car is worth consistently without
  • 00:14:37
    realizing it is that a bad thing it is
  • 00:14:40
    not a car is not an investment it is a
  • 00:14:42
    tool that is supposed to work for you
  • 00:14:45
    but you also have to continuously pour
  • 00:14:47
    money into it to keep it going even
  • 00:14:50
    reliable cars that's just how it is and
  • 00:14:52
    if if everything is great you're still
  • 00:14:54
    putting gas you're still paying
  • 00:14:56
    Insurance you're still cleaning it and
  • 00:14:58
    spending time to maintain it and doing
  • 00:15:00
    everything so the car is never an
  • 00:15:02
    investment when you look at it as an
  • 00:15:03
    investment it is absolutely a horrible
  • 00:15:05
    idea to fix an old car but when you look
  • 00:15:08
    at it from the logic of what is my plan
  • 00:15:11
    with this car what is
  • 00:15:13
    my return on this investment don't look
  • 00:15:16
    at the investment itself it's just a
  • 00:15:17
    return if I put this much money into
  • 00:15:19
    this car and I've done all my research
  • 00:15:21
    I've done a proper thing with it am I
  • 00:15:24
    going to be able to semi- reliably drive
  • 00:15:27
    it for 5 years and then move F but you
  • 00:15:29
    got to stick to your plan and that's
  • 00:15:31
    important because I've seen people do
  • 00:15:33
    that get to the end of their plan and
  • 00:15:35
    then ah let's just keep going and that's
  • 00:15:38
    when things go really s folks have a
  • 00:15:40
    plan think of things
  • 00:15:43
    logically that idea of I'm not spending
  • 00:15:46
    I'm not totaling this car just to fix it
  • 00:15:48
    and keep it that is a wrong assumption
  • 00:15:51
    doesn't mean that you might not end up
  • 00:15:52
    make doing that decision of moving on
  • 00:15:54
    from it but you got to look at all the
  • 00:15:56
    facts here's what I leave you with you
  • 00:15:59
    get into this situation car needs
  • 00:16:01
    repairs more than what it's worth here
  • 00:16:03
    are the data that you need to have in
  • 00:16:05
    front of you before you make a decision
  • 00:16:07
    how much is it going to cost to fix it
  • 00:16:09
    as it sits
  • 00:16:10
    today what potential issues could I have
  • 00:16:13
    with this car over the next year two
  • 00:16:15
    three things that are wearing down that
  • 00:16:17
    are not to a point where it needs
  • 00:16:19
    replacement but they're are coming up
  • 00:16:21
    that is important and the other thing is
  • 00:16:23
    what is your car worth as it sits today
  • 00:16:26
    and the last and the most important
  • 00:16:28
    thing did you go shopping for cars did
  • 00:16:31
    you see what cars are out
  • 00:16:34
    there so you know what to budget for
  • 00:16:37
    what am I paying for this new car you
  • 00:16:39
    got to have all this in front of
  • 00:16:41
    you before you can actually correctly
  • 00:16:44
    decide is my old car worth fixing or is
  • 00:16:47
    it time to move on folks I hope this
  • 00:16:51
    video is helpful informative I hope you
  • 00:16:53
    learn something new if you like it
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    consider giving it a thumbs up if you're
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    the channel check out some videos until
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    the next video folks may the Lord bless
  • 00:17:01
    you and keep you and you have yourself a
  • 00:17:03
    wonderful day
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