"A More Perfect Union" (1989) - America Becomes a Nation
Summary
TLDRThe video is a dramatization of the events leading to the creation of the United States Constitution. It explores the crucial debates and compromises made during the Constitutional Convention of 1787, where delegates from various states, including key figures like George Washington, James Madison, and Benjamin Franklin, sought to resolve issues such as state representation and slavery. The pivotal Great Compromise established a bicameral legislature, blending proportional representation in the House with equal state representation in the Senate. The discussions also touched on the contentious issue of slavery, leading to an agreement to end slave importation by 1808. Throughout the video, the importance of George Washington's leadership is highlighted, as his participation was seen as essential for the convention's success. The narrative also captures the challenges of balancing national interests with state sovereignty, resulting in the Constitution of the United States, which still serves as the foundation of American democracy today. Despite the consensus, some delegates expressed concerns over the absence of a Bill of Rights, reflecting ongoing debates about individual liberties and state authority.
Takeaways
- 🗽 The creation of the US Constitution was marked by intense debates and compromises.
- 👥 The Great Compromise was crucial in determining state representation in Congress.
- ⚖️ George Washington's leadership was pivotal in uniting delegates and lending credibility.
- 📜 The convention tackled issues of national identity versus state sovereignty.
- ⏳ The compromise on slavery delayed abolition but allowed the Constitution to be formed.
- 🤝 The new structure established a balance between populous and smaller states.
- 🧩 The Constitution's creation is a mix of practical challenges and philosophical ideals.
- 🔥 Not all delegates were pleased with the lack of a Bill of Rights.
- 🚪 Some delegates left the convention, feeling their states' interests weren't safeguarded.
- 🔑 The principles laid down then continue to influence the governance of the US today.
Timeline
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The video opens with a backdrop of orchestral music and a somber tone, setting the stage for a historical drama. A conversation hints at an unfolding crisis in America after the war of independence, where the states are deeply divided over policies and commerce.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
A scene illustrates a disagreement over pricing, reflecting tension and discontent among the states. The narrative shifts to a resolution in congress concerning trade regulation, with Britain controlling trade and imposing tariffs on American goods, fueling further discord.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Concerns are raised about the weakening state of America, threatened by foreign powers. There is a call for unification and strengthening of national governance to avoid internal conflict and external threats. Influential figures like General Washington are seen as pivotal to this cause.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
John Adams, representing America in Britain, engages diplomatically to address trade obstructions and debt issues from the Revolutionary War. The conversation highlights America's struggle to maintain sovereignty and fair trade against British interests.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Adams is seen advocating for fair trade with Britain, but the British argue against it, emphasizing America's fragmented governance and debts as hurdles. The exchange underscores the geopolitical tensions and economic challenges of the fledgling nation.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
The narrative returns to America, emphasizing the need for strong leadership at a forthcoming federal convention to propose a new government structure. The unresolved tension and discord among the states foreshadow potential conflict.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Reports of unrest, such as rebellions and courthouse burnings, underscore the urgency for a stronger national government to prevent anarchy. Discussions among leaders highlight differing views on government structure and the roles of key figures like Washington and Adams.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
There is a depiction of General Washington's reluctance to re-enter public service despite the persuasions of James Madison and others, reflecting the personal struggles and high stakes involved for the founding fathers.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
Introducing the Federal Convention, the discourse focuses on a plan of government with three branches, and the contentious issue of states' representation in congress. The challenges of ensuring equitable representation and balancing power dominate the discussions.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
The smaller states fiercely oppose proportional representation, fearing marginalization by more populous states. Madison advocates for representation based on population, arguing it's necessary for a functional national government.
- 00:50:00 - 00:55:00
A proposed compromise suggests proportional representation in the lower house and equal representation in the senate. However, large states resist, leaving the issue unresolved, indicating ongoing tension and stakes in the union's formation.
- 00:55:00 - 01:00:00
Franklin appeals for divine guidance amidst the impasse, reflecting the gravity of their mission to create a viable and lasting government structure. The address underscores the moral and philosophical weight of the task at hand.
- 01:00:00 - 01:05:00
The narrative reaches a breakthrough with a compromise allowing proportional representation in one house and equal representation in another, addressing both big and small state concerns. However, the road remains fraught with disagreements.
- 01:05:00 - 01:10:00
Despite emerging consensus, small states threaten to withdraw, indicating ongoing discord. The narrative shows the fragile balance needed to maintain unity and the diverse interests at the convention.
- 01:10:00 - 01:15:00
The convention delegates consider innovative ideas about representation and power, weighing historical and practical implications, showing the complex dynamics of American political thought at the time.
- 01:15:00 - 01:20:00
Dickinson from Delaware, although supportive of change, expresses strong reservations and the challenges of reconciling state interests within a unified national framework.
- 01:20:00 - 01:25:00
The summary reflects on the philosophical debates about power and liberty, emphasizing a balance between state and federal governance, and showcasing the diverse opinions that shaped the nation.
- 01:25:00 - 01:30:00
Small states, fearing loss of influence, position themselves against the larger states' plans, while larger states argue for a system based on population. The complexities of achieving a consensus highlight the intricacies of the constitutional framing.
- 01:30:00 - 01:35:00
Debate continues about the distribution of power among states, with small progress towards mutual agreement. The discourse shows early signs of federalism and the pragmatic challenges of forming a union.
- 01:35:00 - 01:40:00
Amidst debates, some states consider alliances with foreign powers, showcasing desperation and tension as foundational issues are resolved, underscoring the fragility of the union's initial discussions.
- 01:40:00 - 01:51:59
The narrative concludes with the final vote on the constitution, amidst speeches urging compromise and foresight for lasting governance. It reflects on the gravity and historic impact of the founding document's creation and ratification.
Mind Map
Video Q&A
What is the main topic of the video?
The main topic is the debates and compromises that led to the formation of the United States Constitution.
Who were the main figures involved in this historical event?
Key figures included George Washington, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, and delegates from various states.
What was a major issue discussed in the convention?
A major issue was the representation of states in the new government, resulting in the Great Compromise.
What is the Great Compromise?
The Great Compromise decided that the lower house (House of Representatives) would have representation based on population, while the upper house (Senate) would have equal representation for all states.
What was the significance of George Washington's involvement?
George Washington's presence lent credibility and unity to the convention, and he was seen as indispensable for the success of the new government.
How did the issue of slavery factor into the debates?
Slavery was a contentious issue, with some states like the Carolinas and Georgia insisting on retaining the slave trade, resulting in a compromise to end importation of slaves after 1808.
How did the small states respond to the proposals?
Small states were concerned about losing influence and therefore pushed for equal representation in the Senate.
What was the outcome of this convention?
The convention resulted in the US Constitution, which had to be ratified by the states.
How does this historical event impact modern America?
The structure and principles established in the US Constitution continue to govern the United States today.
Did everyone agree with the final version of the Constitution?
Not everyone agreed initially; some delegates left or were skeptical about the lack of a Bill of Rights.
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- 00:00:09bye
- 00:00:18[Music]
- 00:00:37[Music]
- 00:00:52yes
- 00:01:00right there we'll be fine
- 00:01:05please open it up
- 00:01:07[Music]
- 00:01:17thank you
- 00:01:19[Music]
- 00:01:30god bless you mr jefferson
- 00:01:32[Music]
- 00:02:09america is in crisis
- 00:02:12[Music]
- 00:02:14once united
- 00:02:16by the war against great britain
- 00:02:19the states are now deeply divided over
- 00:02:21matters of policy
- 00:02:23and commerce
- 00:02:26each state pursues its own destiny
- 00:02:29which weakens our trade abroad
- 00:02:31and creates near anarchy at home
- 00:02:38unless a means can be found to unite the
- 00:02:40states i fear the worst for my country
- 00:02:43its life may be as the flame of a candle
- 00:02:46right
- 00:02:48but brave
- 00:02:50[Music]
- 00:02:56good journey to you sir thank you my
- 00:02:57friend
- 00:03:02[Music]
- 00:03:12that wasn't our understanding that's
- 00:03:14what i said and that's the price that's
- 00:03:16flat robbery it's even more than you're
- 00:03:17wroting your letter sorry squire and
- 00:03:20you'll have to put the bike down on your
- 00:03:21tobacco great because the carrot's going
- 00:03:23up again i won't do it
- 00:03:26and i won't pay your price for this slot
- 00:03:28either take it back take it all back
- 00:03:38[Music]
- 00:03:41bring it back up
- 00:03:51i have here a resolution which grants to
- 00:03:54the united states congress of
- 00:03:56confederation the power finally to
- 00:03:58regulate the trade of this country not
- 00:04:00again mr madison yes again mr lee all
- 00:04:04those in this house know you wish to
- 00:04:06strip virginia of her god endowed right
- 00:04:08to regulate her own trade virginia does
- 00:04:10not regulate her trade sir nor does any
- 00:04:13other state in the union great britain
- 00:04:15controls it go down to the docks and see
- 00:04:18for yourself
- 00:04:19indeed
- 00:04:21we charge the british nothing for the
- 00:04:23privilege of trading with us
- 00:04:25meanwhile they charge us huge tariffs if
- 00:04:28the british regulate our trade abroad mr
- 00:04:31mason let us by all means restrict
- 00:04:33theirs here but as virginians
- 00:04:35[Applause]
- 00:04:38let us not empower congress to join us
- 00:04:40with
- 00:04:48our southern state governments indeed
- 00:04:50the state houses in every corner of the
- 00:04:52union wreak with corruption
- 00:04:54the result gentlemen this nation becomes
- 00:04:57every day weaker her borders threatened
- 00:04:59by spain to the west great britain to
- 00:05:02the north can't you see mr lee the glory
- 00:05:05of the revolution is being blasted
- 00:05:08the states must renounce their
- 00:05:10jealousies and give some power to a
- 00:05:12national government otherwise america
- 00:05:14will dissolve mr madison
- 00:05:17you may speechify as long as you like
- 00:05:19about a national government and america
- 00:05:21we here in the house of delegates are
- 00:05:23virginians first and always
- 00:05:34if we could just get the states together
- 00:05:36to talk outside the curse of legislation
- 00:05:40talk about what we'll talk about trade
- 00:05:44about laws
- 00:05:45about a more effective union about
- 00:05:47anything
- 00:05:48if if honest
- 00:05:50influential men met together
- 00:05:52representing their states men like
- 00:05:54general washington and dr franklin and
- 00:05:56yourself sir i have the greatest
- 00:05:58admiration for your writing virginia's
- 00:06:00constitution and her declaration of
- 00:06:02rights sir
- 00:06:05may i count on your help
- 00:06:07i am a friend to your cause sir
- 00:06:09but the indispensable friend is general
- 00:06:12washington
- 00:06:13as he goes
- 00:06:15so goes america
- 00:06:17yes sir and we must get him unless our
- 00:06:19national government is strengthened the
- 00:06:21states will soon turn to the sword to
- 00:06:23resolve their separate jealousies think
- 00:06:25of it standing armies in every state and
- 00:06:27each state the sport of foreign powers
- 00:06:29setting the people against one another
- 00:06:31back to the dark ages
- 00:06:33you sound like john adams
- 00:06:36do i
- 00:06:37perhaps we need mr adams back here from
- 00:06:39london he could he could wake us up
- 00:06:44at the moment i think he's trying to
- 00:06:46wake up the british ministry
- 00:06:57[Music]
- 00:07:04the foreign secretary will see you now
- 00:07:06mr adams
- 00:07:09not before time
- 00:07:11allow me to introduce you sir don't be a
- 00:07:14fool he knows who i am mr adams
- 00:07:18martin
- 00:07:19how happy i am to hear of your recovery
- 00:07:21oh thank you mr ambassador
- 00:07:24i pray be seated
- 00:07:28it is a pleasure to meet you at last
- 00:07:31your servant sir and may i reassure his
- 00:07:34majesty through you mr foreign secretary
- 00:07:36that america is eager for an exchange of
- 00:07:38ambassadors his majesty hopes in time to
- 00:07:42send an ambassador he is anxious to
- 00:07:45cultivate the most cordial friendship
- 00:07:48with
- 00:07:49america and to try to dissipate every
- 00:07:53little animosity that might still exist
- 00:07:55between our two great countries indeed
- 00:07:59in that case lord kamarthan
- 00:08:01may i tell you plainly
- 00:08:03how all animosity may be eliminated ah
- 00:08:06you come with one of your famous
- 00:08:07ultimatums i've brought nothing sir
- 00:08:11it is my desire that we put away our
- 00:08:14subtleties and speak as reasonable men
- 00:08:16by all means
- 00:08:18reasonableness and plainness
- 00:08:21by the wayside i can state in two words
- 00:08:24what america desires of great britain
- 00:08:26fair trade
- 00:08:28pray
- 00:08:30clarify your meaning mr adams
- 00:08:35you are obstructing our shipping and
- 00:08:37restricting our trade
- 00:08:39you have forts within the borders of
- 00:08:41america which you continue to occupy in
- 00:08:44direct defiance of the treaty of 1783.
- 00:08:48do you deny this no mr adams no i
- 00:08:51certainly do not deny it but surely you
- 00:08:54must know his majesty is obliged to
- 00:08:56retain some official presence in your
- 00:08:59country until your countrymen choose to
- 00:09:02repay their debts to his majesty's
- 00:09:05merchants choose to repay well quite so
- 00:09:08mr adams
- 00:09:09if
- 00:09:10my figures are correct
- 00:09:12america owes his majesty's government
- 00:09:15some
- 00:09:1610 million pounds
- 00:09:19incurred before and since the
- 00:09:23late unpleasantries between our two
- 00:09:25countries
- 00:09:26and of course
- 00:09:28the interest i'm sorry to say
- 00:09:31continues to mount
- 00:09:33we americans wish to pay our debts but
- 00:09:36you make it impossible oh how so
- 00:09:39by obstructing our shipping
- 00:09:43you call for immediate payment of all
- 00:09:45debts
- 00:09:46and yet you block the very means whereby
- 00:09:48that payment might be affected
- 00:09:50let me speak plainly to you mr adams if
- 00:09:54i may borrow that felicitous praise from
- 00:09:56you please do
- 00:09:57speaking plainly is something i've
- 00:09:59longed to hear a minister of king george
- 00:10:01do
- 00:10:15who benefits why should his majesty
- 00:10:18contract a treaty of commerce with
- 00:10:20america who would benefit
- 00:10:23you're astonished me sir oh come come
- 00:10:26you americans have discovered that alas
- 00:10:29you cannot supply yourselves from
- 00:10:31anywhere except his majesty's
- 00:10:33manufacturing and so
- 00:10:36if i may speak plainly
- 00:10:39british merchants
- 00:10:41may charge you what they will
- 00:10:47who would benefit
- 00:10:49from a change in that policy
- 00:10:52not we britain's surely
- 00:10:55we allow you britons
- 00:10:57to come to all of our ports and your own
- 00:11:00ships in america
- 00:11:01without charge
- 00:11:03will you allow us the same privilege why
- 00:11:06should we allow it you cannot avoid
- 00:11:08letting us come to your ports
- 00:11:11you have no government to prevent it and
- 00:11:14your squabbling states cannot agree to
- 00:11:17forbid the ships and goods nor
- 00:11:20lay duties upon them
- 00:11:23until you have a government
- 00:11:26my answer to your urgent request is mr
- 00:11:29ambassador
- 00:11:33cui bono
- 00:11:38you're quite right mr adams
- 00:11:41speaking plainly
- 00:11:43is most refreshing
- 00:11:46so
- 00:11:47visit me again when you have something
- 00:11:50substantive to discuss
- 00:11:55producer
- 00:11:57[Music]
- 00:12:03[Music]
- 00:12:11if the federal convention is to be a
- 00:12:13success general washington must attend
- 00:12:16only his presence will give it the
- 00:12:18strength to form a new government and
- 00:12:20the stature to make that government
- 00:12:22acceptable to all americans
- 00:12:26truly now as in the days of the war
- 00:12:30the fate of america lies in the hands of
- 00:12:33george washington
- 00:12:36[Music]
- 00:12:38my worst fears for this country are
- 00:12:40being realized
- 00:12:41in virginia and elsewhere the people are
- 00:12:43burning courthouses
- 00:12:45in massachusetts there's been a
- 00:12:47full-scale rebellion of ex-soldiers and
- 00:12:50farmers in their frustration with the
- 00:12:52bad government
- 00:12:55the people are turning to the torch
- 00:12:57and the sword
- 00:13:00[Music]
- 00:13:17kick to the road the snow is too big
- 00:13:27over their heads gunners psycho guns
- 00:13:30[Music]
- 00:13:35fire runner fire one
- 00:13:46another one over their head gunner fire
- 00:13:48two
- 00:13:56[Music]
- 00:13:59into the ranks gunners
- 00:14:04fire
- 00:14:05fire your muskets
- 00:14:20we americans have much to learn from
- 00:14:22english agriculture i don't change the
- 00:14:24subject man i tell you there is
- 00:14:26rebellion in massachusetts
- 00:14:28they're burning public records in
- 00:14:29virginia
- 00:14:30surely even thomas jefferson the
- 00:14:32revolutionary can see that leads to
- 00:14:33anarchy no john i can't
- 00:14:37the blood spilled in such revolts is the
- 00:14:39manure of free republics let the people
- 00:14:41speak
- 00:14:43even if their voice is gunfire but after
- 00:14:44the gunfire comes good government and
- 00:14:46good laws which the fractured states
- 00:14:48can't seem to achieve
- 00:14:50all the despots of europe are waiting
- 00:14:51for america to fail and she will but she
- 00:14:54doesn't learn to govern herself well i
- 00:14:56hear that james madison has persuaded a
- 00:14:57convention to be held in philadelphia in
- 00:14:59may to revise the articles of
- 00:15:00confederation or talk
- 00:15:03well i have faith in medicine
- 00:15:05for the task at hand he's the greatest
- 00:15:07man in america
- 00:15:08i've been sending him books on
- 00:15:09government and i hear there's a chance
- 00:15:11that general washington may attend well
- 00:15:14if washington can be persuaded to
- 00:15:15descend from mount vernon there might be
- 00:15:17a chance this convention will be more
- 00:15:18than just talk
- 00:15:22[Music]
- 00:15:27general
- 00:15:29you are the indispensable man
- 00:15:32without you we are without hope
- 00:15:35if we persuade congress to authorize a
- 00:15:37convention you must come
- 00:15:40respectfully
- 00:15:42james madison
- 00:15:45[Music]
- 00:15:50[Applause]
- 00:15:51[Music]
- 00:15:54i believe the scheme of the convention
- 00:15:56is sound
- 00:15:58as to my attending
- 00:15:59you must know mr madison that i am a
- 00:16:01private man now
- 00:16:03i brought the ship safely into port
- 00:16:06i will not again embark on the sea of
- 00:16:08public troubles
- 00:16:10your humble and obedient servant
- 00:16:12george washington
- 00:16:18[Music]
- 00:16:27you told the congress what
- 00:16:29i told them the general would attend the
- 00:16:31convention in philadelphia but he hasn't
- 00:16:34given his consent but he must
- 00:16:37didn't you say he must yes yes but i
- 00:16:40believe he will
- 00:16:41yes but the risk you're taking
- 00:16:44your reputation
- 00:16:46colonel
- 00:16:47there was no other way delaware
- 00:16:50georgia the carolinas in fact all of
- 00:16:52them said they would appoint delegates
- 00:16:54only if general washington attended the
- 00:16:56convention
- 00:17:05for some months now i have been
- 00:17:07attempting to persuade general
- 00:17:08washington to attend our convention
- 00:17:12but in vain
- 00:17:15my research is virtually complete and i
- 00:17:18i'm confident as to the direction this
- 00:17:20nation must take
- 00:17:21but god knows without the general
- 00:17:23present
- 00:17:24all my preparations will be for naught
- 00:17:27i leave for philadelphia without the
- 00:17:28slightest assurance that he will attend
- 00:17:31[Music]
- 00:17:39thomas
- 00:17:51[Music]
- 00:17:56oh
- 00:17:58[Music]
- 00:18:01thought you'd want this before you went
- 00:18:02off to philadelphia
- 00:18:04yes success to you mr madison thank you
- 00:18:07williams
- 00:18:09[Music]
- 00:18:13i regret to say that circumstances
- 00:18:16render my attendance in philadelphia
- 00:18:18impossible your servant george
- 00:18:20washington
- 00:18:24[Music]
- 00:18:35so
- 00:18:37[Music]
- 00:18:45[Music]
- 00:18:54[Music]
- 00:19:01[Applause]
- 00:19:04yeah
- 00:19:04yes
- 00:19:06i've just come by to see how you're
- 00:19:07settling in
- 00:19:09well i'm i'm fine thank you mrs house
- 00:19:11the last time you had to put up with one
- 00:19:12of our summers it almost did you win you
- 00:19:14being such a slight fellow now this time
- 00:19:17you will eat and dressed properly
- 00:19:20and i suppose i'm the one that will have
- 00:19:21to see to it that you do thank you i i
- 00:19:24appreciate your concern is it true what
- 00:19:26is general washington coming to
- 00:19:28philadelphia general washington do you
- 00:19:30have a letter from the general for me oh
- 00:19:32no i read it in the gazette
- 00:19:36well if the gazette says it it should be
- 00:19:39true shouldn't it oh imagine the general
- 00:19:41in our city
- 00:19:45thank you
- 00:19:51[Music]
- 00:19:57[Music]
- 00:20:00ah
- 00:20:01[Music]
- 00:20:02[Applause]
- 00:20:23so
- 00:20:25[Music]
- 00:20:32[Music]
- 00:20:52oh
- 00:21:05[Applause]
- 00:21:08[Music]
- 00:21:21mrs house
- 00:21:22[Music]
- 00:21:58oh
- 00:22:19uh
- 00:22:28excuse me
- 00:22:29what is happening
- 00:22:38pull up here let's see
- 00:22:45[Music]
- 00:23:00mr madison
- 00:23:05[Music]
- 00:23:29whichever gentleman or better still lady
- 00:23:31that is knocking i'm around here
- 00:23:35[Music]
- 00:23:40[Music]
- 00:23:50[Laughter]
- 00:23:51oh my dear general
- 00:23:54how delighted i am to see you sir
- 00:23:56praise uh do not trouble yourself
- 00:23:59quite unnecessary for the sage of
- 00:24:00philadelphia to rise in the presence of
- 00:24:02a retired soldier well if the sage
- 00:24:04cannot rise perhaps the soldier will sit
- 00:24:07hey
- 00:24:13some tea thank you doctor
- 00:24:18alas
- 00:24:20gout and the stone have
- 00:24:22made me into a monument
- 00:24:25people must now come to view me as i am
- 00:24:27unable to go to them
- 00:24:29will your health allow you to attend the
- 00:24:31convention doctor will yours general
- 00:24:36it seems that fate wishes us to postpone
- 00:24:39our well-earned retirement sir well i
- 00:24:42hope our convention will do good
- 00:24:44if it does not it must do harm
- 00:24:46its failure will demonstrate that we
- 00:24:48have not wisdom enough to govern
- 00:24:50ourselves i of course
- 00:24:52have selfish interest in its success oh
- 00:24:54indeed
- 00:24:55during the war i stake my life in what
- 00:24:58is more important my reputation on the
- 00:25:00belief that americans could govern
- 00:25:02themselves
- 00:25:03and that all mankind should share in
- 00:25:04that privilege doctor many know by heart
- 00:25:07to a creator that the rights of
- 00:25:08americans should be the rights of all
- 00:25:10men
- 00:25:11well then sir you see the danger i'm in
- 00:25:14if our convention fails all mankind will
- 00:25:16suffer oh much worse
- 00:25:18i shall be discredited as a philosopher
- 00:25:23oh general i am grateful you are here
- 00:25:26for you among all men i hold in the
- 00:25:28highest esteem
- 00:25:31when you voluntarily surrendered power
- 00:25:33after the war i knew that in you
- 00:25:34breathed no tyrant
- 00:25:37but that new man an american
- 00:25:41you are the very soul of this republic
- 00:25:43sir
- 00:25:44with you and our councils
- 00:25:46we must succeed you overwhelm me sir
- 00:25:49you must know that i consider you the
- 00:25:51greatest american alive
- 00:25:54my grave fears the welfare of this
- 00:25:56country
- 00:25:57are lightened in your presence
- 00:26:00well then
- 00:26:01let us toast ourselves with this tea
- 00:26:04and declare
- 00:26:05that the world is infinitely better off
- 00:26:08because of us
- 00:26:15[Music]
- 00:26:35gentlemen thank you for coming
- 00:26:37mr madison and i believe it wise that we
- 00:26:39virginians
- 00:26:41meet together to prepare for the opening
- 00:26:43of our great convention
- 00:26:49thank you general
- 00:26:51for some months now i have been studying
- 00:26:53the governments of many nations ancient
- 00:26:55and modern and i have discovered that
- 00:26:57all governments have had defects
- 00:27:00the periclean greeks were too autocratic
- 00:27:03the helvetic confederacy pardon me
- 00:27:06gentlemen i do not mean to be tedious
- 00:27:10i know that every thinking man becomes
- 00:27:12daily more alarmed at our situation
- 00:27:15i have devised a plan of government
- 00:27:18which i believe
- 00:27:20will help to correct the abuses
- 00:27:22in our republic
- 00:27:24excellent
- 00:27:25all states look to virginia for
- 00:27:27leadership in government
- 00:27:28and you governor randolph will propose
- 00:27:30this plan on the first day of the
- 00:27:32convention if you are agreeable of
- 00:27:34course i am agreeable
- 00:27:36although it seems to me that the general
- 00:27:38no no you are the governor of virginia
- 00:27:40sir
- 00:27:41i'm a private citizen does your plan
- 00:27:44improve the articles of confederation it
- 00:27:46abolishes
- 00:27:56general seems an imposing figure for 30
- 00:27:59years judge wilson
- 00:28:01have you ever met the man
- 00:28:04i do believe i'd be a wee bit
- 00:28:08he seems the very soul of dignity
- 00:28:11i know the general well and believe me
- 00:28:13no man could be kind
- 00:28:14but being in his presence is rather like
- 00:28:16being with your father
- 00:28:18your creditor
- 00:28:19and your maker all rolled into one
- 00:28:22nonsense i've met the general and i can
- 00:28:25assure you i'm not over odd in his
- 00:28:26presence i'm afraid of no man on earth
- 00:28:31wait or another port please
- 00:28:37to abolish the articles
- 00:28:40general
- 00:28:42nothing less will work
- 00:28:44the articles give the states the right
- 00:28:46to act almost as independent countries
- 00:28:49let us suppose that this this teacup
- 00:28:52is our federal government as it exists
- 00:28:54under the articles
- 00:28:56well then your teacup is congress indeed
- 00:28:59and it is like philadelphia t heated
- 00:29:01enough for debate but weak
- 00:29:05it is a creature of the states entirely
- 00:29:07in it each state has one vote
- 00:29:10and nothing decided there is binding
- 00:29:12unless there is complete unanimity in
- 00:29:13the voting which there never is
- 00:29:18general may i bile me
- 00:29:19[Music]
- 00:29:21most instructed thank you sir and
- 00:29:23governor i'll need yours as well colonel
- 00:29:26mason
- 00:29:28thank you sir
- 00:29:31now this
- 00:29:33this is the form
- 00:29:35that i propose for our new government
- 00:29:38instead of a single
- 00:29:40governing body
- 00:29:42three branches
- 00:29:44in a truly national government and what
- 00:29:46will they be
- 00:29:47our first branch will be in new congress
- 00:29:49well we already have a congress yes but
- 00:29:51ours will be different
- 00:29:53since our plan
- 00:29:54expands the powers of congress
- 00:29:57we will check that power
- 00:30:00by dividing it into two houses
- 00:30:02an upper house
- 00:30:04and a lower house
- 00:30:06and note congress will now
- 00:30:09truly represent the people of the united
- 00:30:11states for the first time in our history
- 00:30:13how will it do that how many inhabitants
- 00:30:15has virginia governor
- 00:30:17more than any other state some
- 00:30:19800 000 people
- 00:30:21and how many votes does virginia have in
- 00:30:24congress today under the articles one
- 00:30:28do you know the population of delaware
- 00:30:30not precisely
- 00:30:32certainly under a hundred thousand well
- 00:30:33under a hundred thousand mr with and yet
- 00:30:35how many votes does little delaware have
- 00:30:38in congress
- 00:30:39one of course the same as virginia
- 00:30:43but our new congress will make
- 00:30:45nationally binding laws
- 00:30:47and so the people of virginia as all the
- 00:30:49states must be represented fairly
- 00:30:53in proportion
- 00:30:54to their populations
- 00:30:57waiter
- 00:31:00might i have another cup of tea
- 00:31:02stronger this time
- 00:31:05you would walk up to the general and
- 00:31:07with no prior greetings slap him on the
- 00:31:09back and say my dear general how happy i
- 00:31:11am to see you look so well
- 00:31:13certainly a hearty thump of fellowship
- 00:31:16what could be more simple and congenial
- 00:31:20a supper and wine for you and a dozen of
- 00:31:22your friends says you wouldn't dare and
- 00:31:24a dinner from me mr morris
- 00:31:29done gentlemen
- 00:31:34well
- 00:31:36go on mr morris
- 00:31:59wait for another port please
- 00:32:06between power and liberty
- 00:32:08thank you sir
- 00:32:12there will also be an executive branch
- 00:32:14to enforce the law as congress passes
- 00:32:17that wine goblet must be kept in check
- 00:32:19lest it make itself a king
- 00:32:24and so it shall be governor
- 00:32:26by congress
- 00:32:28and by this mug which represents the
- 00:32:30judiciary branch
- 00:32:32the courts of the land
- 00:32:34very good mr madison
- 00:32:35might i have the executive branch back
- 00:32:38it needs refreshing
- 00:32:40of course general and pardon my speaking
- 00:32:42in such language
- 00:32:46gentlemen
- 00:32:47the states sent their delegates here to
- 00:32:50hold on like bulldogs to state
- 00:32:52sovereignty
- 00:32:53our first battle
- 00:32:55will be to get them to abandon the
- 00:32:57articles of confederation in favor of
- 00:32:59our new government difficult since the
- 00:33:02instructions sent with many of them
- 00:33:04specifically prohibit them from doing so
- 00:33:07may we not say in our plan that we are
- 00:33:10merely correcting the articles not
- 00:33:11abolishing them well our plan does
- 00:33:13abolish them but can we not say that we
- 00:33:15are correcting them i have found that
- 00:33:17words can be crucial
- 00:33:19the anti-nationalists may correct what
- 00:33:21they will never abolish for that that
- 00:33:23may well speak of a first battle mr
- 00:33:25madison
- 00:33:26will it be others yes the smaller states
- 00:33:29will oppose our plan at all hazard
- 00:33:32delaware will not want to lose her
- 00:33:33disproportionate power in a congress
- 00:33:35that makes binding laws nor would i
- 00:33:37where i governor of delaware but they
- 00:33:38must
- 00:33:40this battle
- 00:33:41proportionate representation in congress
- 00:33:44is the battle for the soul of america
- 00:33:46lose it and the states of america will
- 00:33:48never form a true union
- 00:33:51win it god willing
- 00:33:54and our nation is saved
- 00:33:58to the virginia plan
- 00:34:00my dear general i'm very glad to see you
- 00:34:02look so very well
- 00:34:04[Music]
- 00:34:11gentlemen
- 00:34:12[Music]
- 00:34:17[Applause]
- 00:34:20[Music]
- 00:34:22[Applause]
- 00:34:23[Music]
- 00:34:45please accept my heartfelt thanks for
- 00:34:48the honor of being elected president of
- 00:34:50this convention
- 00:34:55i need hardly tell you that the nation
- 00:34:57watches us
- 00:34:59as i think to the powers of heaven
- 00:35:02let us do our best
- 00:35:06i uh
- 00:35:08mr madison
- 00:35:10yes general find your seat uncomfortable
- 00:35:12sir
- 00:35:15with the indulgence of the members i am
- 00:35:17moving to the front where i may more
- 00:35:18perfectly hear the proceedings and make
- 00:35:20notes of them i wish to record the
- 00:35:22mechanisms by which our new government
- 00:35:25is created new government
- 00:35:27new government mr madison our
- 00:35:30instructions do not authorize the
- 00:35:31forming of a new government so you sir
- 00:35:34may return to your seat no new
- 00:35:37government will be formed here
- 00:35:41easy men
- 00:35:43easy men
- 00:35:46these are hallowed halls
- 00:35:48i signed a paper here which got us into
- 00:35:50a lot of trouble not so long ago
- 00:35:54the convention
- 00:35:56welcomes dr franklin to its opening
- 00:35:58session
- 00:36:06thank you warden you can return our
- 00:36:08sturdy friends to the jail
- 00:36:10i think i can find my own way home
- 00:36:14thank you you're a quiet brother
- 00:36:16[Music]
- 00:36:23late oh history will be the judge of
- 00:36:26that james
- 00:36:30i
- 00:36:31should now like to hear from the
- 00:36:32committee on rules
- 00:36:36mr president the committee on rules
- 00:36:38proposes that all votes be recorded mr
- 00:36:42president i recognize the delegate from
- 00:36:44massachusetts mr uh
- 00:36:47gary
- 00:36:49mr king
- 00:36:50i object to the recording of votes this
- 00:36:53will restrict the free exchange of
- 00:36:55opinions
- 00:36:56i propose that while we are debating we
- 00:36:59resolve ourselves into a committee
- 00:37:01of the whole house
- 00:37:03and that any votes taken when the
- 00:37:05convention is so resolved to be
- 00:37:06non-binding and not recorded in the
- 00:37:09minutes
- 00:37:11and we should be able to change our
- 00:37:13votes in committee of the whole
- 00:37:15as often as we like
- 00:37:18we can take a binding vote when we are
- 00:37:19in general assembly objections
- 00:37:22then mr king's motion passes
- 00:37:25might i suggest that uh mr nathaniel
- 00:37:27gorham of massachusetts who has been
- 00:37:29president of congress be selected as
- 00:37:32chairman of the committee of the whole
- 00:37:33when the convention is so resolved
- 00:37:39the vote being unanimous
- 00:37:41we may now return to the report of the
- 00:37:42committee on i beg your pardon general
- 00:37:45yes ma'am
- 00:37:46do i record that last vote in the
- 00:37:47minutes yes you do record this vote uh
- 00:37:51[Music]
- 00:37:52when you see mr gorham up here in the
- 00:37:54chair instead of me then you do not
- 00:37:56recover from it oh thank you sir i
- 00:37:58understand we may never get to the plan
- 00:38:00at all
- 00:38:02yes to it
- 00:38:04please proceed we propose that a rule of
- 00:38:08of absolute secrecy be imposed on the
- 00:38:10delegates while this body meets thank
- 00:38:12you
- 00:38:14all those in favor signify by saying aye
- 00:38:18on this item of secrecy let me add my
- 00:38:20personal endorsement
- 00:38:22it will allow us all to speak our minds
- 00:38:24more freely
- 00:38:25and protect the public from those who
- 00:38:27may distort our deliberations
- 00:38:30and now i am sir oh your old law teacher
- 00:38:34james the man who wouldn't sign the
- 00:38:36declaration of independence
- 00:38:39john dickinson of delaware sent to
- 00:38:41revise the articles if need be welcome
- 00:38:43mr dickens
- 00:38:44please
- 00:38:52mr president
- 00:38:54i recognize the delegate from virginia
- 00:38:56governor edmond randall thank you sir
- 00:39:00gentlemen
- 00:39:02we are in crisis
- 00:39:04there are those both at home and abroad
- 00:39:06who prophesy our downfall as united
- 00:39:08states
- 00:39:10why
- 00:39:11because the articles of confederation
- 00:39:13have utterly failed to accomplish what
- 00:39:15they were created for
- 00:39:17now i have only the greatest respect for
- 00:39:19the authors of the articles
- 00:39:21they were patriots
- 00:39:23their efforts were adequate to their
- 00:39:25times when there were no trade wars
- 00:39:27among the states
- 00:39:28no rebellion in massachusetts or
- 00:39:30virginia
- 00:39:31courts have been burned in richmond true
- 00:39:33mr gary true
- 00:39:35we live in difficult times
- 00:39:37the articles cannot adequately govern us
- 00:39:41but there is a remedy a remedy as bold
- 00:39:44as the times required
- 00:39:46i propose that we correct and enlarge
- 00:39:49the articles of confederation
- 00:39:51in order that they might accomplish the
- 00:39:53objects proposed by their creation
- 00:40:02i now resolve this convention into
- 00:40:04committee of the whole house for uh
- 00:40:06discussion of governor randolph's plan
- 00:40:26thank you
- 00:40:49mr chairman
- 00:40:50the chair recognizes the delegate from
- 00:40:52pennsylvania mr governor morris
- 00:40:56i see an inconsistency in the very first
- 00:40:58clause of this plan
- 00:41:00governor randolph your first resolution
- 00:41:02calls for the articles of confederation
- 00:41:04to be
- 00:41:05and let me get this right corrected and
- 00:41:07enlarged
- 00:41:09that is correct yet the remaining 14
- 00:41:12articles do not do that
- 00:41:14they abolish them
- 00:41:16this plan calls for an entirely new
- 00:41:18government if we are abolishing the
- 00:41:19articles of confederation let us say so
- 00:41:22clearly
- 00:41:30governor randall do you wish to reply
- 00:41:34yes
- 00:41:36mr morris i am indebted to you for your
- 00:41:39clarification
- 00:41:40[Music]
- 00:41:41i propose that we set aside the first
- 00:41:44clause of the virginia plan
- 00:41:46and in its place substitute the
- 00:41:48resolution
- 00:41:50that a national government ought to be
- 00:41:51established consisting of a supreme
- 00:41:54legislative executive and judiciary
- 00:41:57the articles are thus abolished and the
- 00:42:00new form of government substituted for
- 00:42:02the old
- 00:42:07the claire recognizes the delegate from
- 00:42:08new jersey mr william patterson our
- 00:42:11instructions do not even allow us to
- 00:42:13discuss a scheme in which the articles
- 00:42:14of confederation are abolished we may
- 00:42:16amend them nothing more
- 00:42:19struck with the bar that such a thought
- 00:42:20ever occurred to governor randolph he's
- 00:42:22just annihilated our government
- 00:42:25amen amen mr paterson i was sent here
- 00:42:28from massachusetts to amend the articles
- 00:42:30of confederation not to dissolve them in
- 00:42:32the states as well read the plan mr gary
- 00:42:34you'll see that it does not dissolve the
- 00:42:36states i have read enough to see all the
- 00:42:39deadlines
- 00:42:41well if this plan will finally force the
- 00:42:43states to obey federal law that i'm
- 00:42:44forced i accept governor randolph's
- 00:42:46change i say let's do away with the
- 00:42:48article
- 00:42:52mr chairman
- 00:42:54chair recognize the dedicated from
- 00:42:56connecticut mr roger sherman
- 00:43:00all i want to say is this
- 00:43:03the articles didn't give enough powers
- 00:43:05to congress i wrote part of them so i
- 00:43:07know
- 00:43:09let's not cut so deeply into them that
- 00:43:11the states won't agree with us
- 00:43:14that's my say for now
- 00:43:15thank you mr sherman so you are against
- 00:43:17doing away with the articles of
- 00:43:19confederation that's what i just said
- 00:43:21isn't it
- 00:43:24mr chairman
- 00:43:27recognizes mr madison
- 00:43:29[Music]
- 00:43:32gentlemen
- 00:43:34the moment has arrived which is to
- 00:43:36decide whether the american experiment
- 00:43:38is to survive and be a blessing to the
- 00:43:41world or not
- 00:43:43on the one hand we have the articles of
- 00:43:45confederation
- 00:43:46on the other we have a proposal for an
- 00:43:48entirely new kind of government
- 00:43:51every day the union grows more impotent
- 00:43:54and her people more discontent
- 00:43:56is this what we wish
- 00:43:58no
- 00:44:00if it is true as mr patterson said
- 00:44:02that we are authorized only to amend the
- 00:44:05articles of confederation then i say let
- 00:44:07us amend them out of existence
- 00:44:18to chairman the chair recognizes the
- 00:44:20delegate from connecticut mr what hashem
- 00:44:23look i've got to keep the state strong
- 00:44:26everybody knows it's only in a small
- 00:44:28republic like a state
- 00:44:30the popular government works
- 00:44:34i think not so mr sherman my research
- 00:44:37tells me
- 00:44:38that it is only in a large republic that
- 00:44:41good government is even possible
- 00:44:45forgive me for interrupting my colleague
- 00:44:47but
- 00:44:48mr madison
- 00:44:50don't all authorities state that
- 00:44:53good government arises from small
- 00:44:56republics like the states yes colonel
- 00:44:58they do
- 00:44:59but the states
- 00:45:01is there good government in rhode island
- 00:45:03rhode island is too small
- 00:45:05it's always controlled by some faction
- 00:45:07or other
- 00:45:08dr franklin is there good government in
- 00:45:11pennsylvania now that's a larger state
- 00:45:14indeed not mr madison
- 00:45:16the pennsylvania legislature is
- 00:45:18controlled by a faction which is far
- 00:45:20from just
- 00:45:22alas
- 00:45:23it is also far from honest
- 00:45:28all societies are made up of
- 00:45:31warring factions
- 00:45:33rich against the poor
- 00:45:34religion against religion
- 00:45:37race against race
- 00:45:38a small republic like a state too often
- 00:45:42false prey to one of these factions
- 00:45:44the result lawlessness and oppression
- 00:45:48especially against the minorities it is
- 00:45:50only in a large republic with many
- 00:45:52different minded people that no one
- 00:45:55faction can gain control
- 00:45:58in such a republic the liberties of all
- 00:46:00the people are naturally safeguarded
- 00:46:03such a republic
- 00:46:04if it were dedicated to justice
- 00:46:07protected by truth
- 00:46:09and of the spirit
- 00:46:11of the people
- 00:46:13would i believe
- 00:46:15last through the ages but
- 00:46:18first it must exist
- 00:46:22[Music]
- 00:46:42[Music]
- 00:46:50[Music]
- 00:46:51i move that we vote on the chain
- 00:46:54second very well
- 00:46:56if there is no further discussion we
- 00:46:58will vote on governor randolph's new
- 00:47:00resolution
- 00:47:02massachusetts
- 00:47:06aye
- 00:47:07connecticut
- 00:47:09no new jersey no
- 00:47:12new york mr chairman
- 00:47:16governor clinton sent our delegation
- 00:47:18with strict instructions to oppose
- 00:47:21any attempt to diminish the sovereignty
- 00:47:23of new york
- 00:47:25i wholeheartedly agree with these
- 00:47:27instructions as will my colleague mr
- 00:47:29lansing when he arrives
- 00:47:31since mr hamilton chooses to ignore them
- 00:47:36new york is divided
- 00:47:41delaware
- 00:47:43all right pennsylvania aye virginia hi
- 00:47:47north carolina hi south carolina hi
- 00:47:54very well then
- 00:47:55with three states absent
- 00:47:57plus rhode island of course
- 00:47:59mr vandal's resolution passes in
- 00:48:01committee new york divided the articles
- 00:48:04of confederation are abolished
- 00:48:09we may now discuss other resolutions of
- 00:48:11the virginia plan mr chairman
- 00:48:14chair recognizes mr dickinson of
- 00:48:15delaware mr chairman
- 00:48:18gentlemen i as well as others see the
- 00:48:21need for a change in our form of
- 00:48:23government
- 00:48:24but now
- 00:48:25turning to the second resolution
- 00:48:28i see words which unless struck out
- 00:48:33must kill it
- 00:48:35resolve that the rights of suffrage in
- 00:48:37the national legislature ought to be
- 00:48:39proportioned
- 00:48:40to the number of free inhabitants
- 00:48:45now i turn to you mr madison
- 00:48:48as we may perhaps suppose that yours is
- 00:48:50the mind
- 00:48:52behind the virginia plan
- 00:48:55do you mean sir by this clause
- 00:48:58that the large states will have more
- 00:48:59delegates in the new legislature than
- 00:49:01the smaller states
- 00:49:03yes because of their greater populations
- 00:49:06and
- 00:49:06this is done in order to destroy the
- 00:49:10equality of the states in the new
- 00:49:12congress
- 00:49:14most certainly not sir it is done that
- 00:49:16power might at last be derived from the
- 00:49:18people mr dickinson
- 00:49:21well i'm sure this form of
- 00:49:22representation appeals to virginia and
- 00:49:25to pennsylvania and massachusetts all
- 00:49:27large states
- 00:49:29and it may appeal to the deep south as
- 00:49:31carolinas and georgia which believe they
- 00:49:33will become large states
- 00:49:36but the smaller states
- 00:49:39will not accept such tyranny
- 00:49:50the delaware delegation cannot change
- 00:49:52this system our instructions are clear
- 00:49:54and if we discuss it
- 00:49:56it will become our duty
- 00:49:58to retire from the commission
- 00:50:01please mr dickinson the people not the
- 00:50:03states must be represented equally
- 00:50:05surely you can see that sir
- 00:50:07no mr madison
- 00:50:09i cannot see that
- 00:50:12even if you're not allowed to vote for
- 00:50:14proportional representation surely
- 00:50:16you're not required to walk out if
- 00:50:17others vote for it you'll destroy the
- 00:50:19convention if you leave
- 00:50:22perhaps it is best if we leave this
- 00:50:24resolution for a while
- 00:50:26i propose mr chairman that we postpone
- 00:50:29discussion and voting on the second
- 00:50:31resolution of the virginia plan second
- 00:50:34and let every state consider well losing
- 00:50:37its vote in congress
- 00:50:45discussion of the second resolution
- 00:50:47signify by saying i i
- 00:50:50all those opposed signify by saying no
- 00:50:55we will take up discussion of other
- 00:50:57resolutions of governor randos plan in
- 00:50:59committee tomorrow today's session
- 00:51:04and so the great issue of the convention
- 00:51:06has been postponed
- 00:51:09no doubt to allow john dickinson of
- 00:51:11delaware and delegates from the other
- 00:51:12small states time to concoct a plan
- 00:51:16to defeat proportional representation in
- 00:51:18congress
- 00:51:21yes
- 00:51:24something to eat mr madison
- 00:51:26thank you thank you
- 00:51:28you never get out into the air mr
- 00:51:30madison
- 00:51:32you convention here all day and then you
- 00:51:34shut yourself up in here all right
- 00:51:38you really should take your ease
- 00:51:40like the other delegates
- 00:51:44mrs house i i need to transcribe my
- 00:51:46notes
- 00:51:48please i thank you
- 00:51:51thank you very much
- 00:51:56[Music]
- 00:52:16we have been engaged for some weeks in
- 00:52:18debates on the war-making power of
- 00:52:20congress the court system
- 00:52:23the strength of our executive and so on
- 00:52:25as expected the carolinas and georgia
- 00:52:28have insisted on retaining the
- 00:52:30importation of slaves
- 00:52:33john rutledge of south carolina leads
- 00:52:35their fight
- 00:52:36gentlemen
- 00:52:38our economies in the south bring great
- 00:52:41wealth to this nation
- 00:52:43but we must be allowed to continue the
- 00:52:45importation of slaves chairman mr king
- 00:52:50mr rutledge calls it importation
- 00:52:53it eases the consciences of the
- 00:52:55southerners to use a word which applies
- 00:52:56to merchandise
- 00:52:59but men and women
- 00:53:01are not produced mr rutledge
- 00:53:04you do not import slaves
- 00:53:07you kidnap them here mr king it is
- 00:53:10iniquitous chairman
- 00:53:12mr sherman
- 00:53:16now mr morris
- 00:53:18i think the slave trade is iniquitous
- 00:53:21too
- 00:53:23but you know every man in this room
- 00:53:25knows that the southern states
- 00:53:28will never confederate with us if we
- 00:53:30insist they give it up mr sherman is
- 00:53:32correct
- 00:53:33morality has nothing to do with this
- 00:53:35argument
- 00:53:37interest alone is the governing
- 00:53:39principle with nations
- 00:53:41and if the northern states consult their
- 00:53:43interest
- 00:53:44they will see that slavery benefits
- 00:53:46their shipping
- 00:53:49care recognizes kennel mason from
- 00:53:50virginia
- 00:53:51[Music]
- 00:53:55you are wrong mr butledge
- 00:53:58this is a moral issue
- 00:54:02nations cannot be punished in the next
- 00:54:04world for their sins
- 00:54:06so they must be punished in this one
- 00:54:11slavery will bring the judgment of
- 00:54:13heaven on this country
- 00:54:18mark my words
- 00:54:19but colonel mason
- 00:54:21you were a slave owner yourself out of
- 00:54:24order mr sherman no no mr chairman i
- 00:54:26will answer that
- 00:54:32i do not say that slavery can be
- 00:54:35abolished overnight
- 00:54:38its increase can
- 00:54:40it was british merchants who started the
- 00:54:42infernal traffic
- 00:54:44and as americans
- 00:54:46we must end it
- 00:54:50mr chairman
- 00:54:51mr pinkney
- 00:54:53south carolina if left at liberty
- 00:54:57may stop important slaves as virginia
- 00:55:00and maryland have done but if coerced
- 00:55:04never mr chairman mr wilson
- 00:55:08if you are disposed to end importing
- 00:55:11soon
- 00:55:12why not do it now
- 00:55:14surely no state will stay out of the
- 00:55:15union over this mr chairman dr
- 00:55:18williamson i rise to
- 00:55:21assure my colleague from pennsylvania
- 00:55:24that north carolina would stay out of
- 00:55:27the union the entire south will stay out
- 00:55:30of the union
- 00:55:32but we are willing to compromise
- 00:55:37i move that
- 00:55:39all importation of slaves cease
- 00:55:42after the year 1808 20 years from now
- 00:55:46this will give us adequate time to
- 00:55:47prepare for such a radical change in our
- 00:55:49economies i second mr rutledge's motion
- 00:55:54the business of government gentlemen
- 00:55:57is compromise
- 00:56:00let's get this infernal business over
- 00:56:02with
- 00:56:05that we would be forced to accept the
- 00:56:07southern position on slavery was a
- 00:56:09foregone conclusion
- 00:56:11but it is a blight in our convention and
- 00:56:13our country
- 00:56:16dickinson remains silent over the issue
- 00:56:18of representation in congress
- 00:56:21but as more small state delegates have
- 00:56:23now arrived that will soon change
- 00:56:26i am finding curious differences in the
- 00:56:28degree with which the delegates possess
- 00:56:30the democratic spirit
- 00:56:32james wilson of pennsylvania is
- 00:56:34certainly the most democratic minded
- 00:56:36he has argued for direct election of all
- 00:56:38offices by the people
- 00:56:40others favor appointment to national
- 00:56:42offices we have decided that senators
- 00:56:45will be selected by state legislatures
- 00:56:47which to wilson is a defeat with the
- 00:56:49state
- 00:56:57of legislature it's not a proper course
- 00:56:59mr madison
- 00:57:00[Applause]
- 00:57:02careful about oh no no i
- 00:57:05thank you
- 00:57:07some of the gentlemen
- 00:57:08um
- 00:57:10excuse me
- 00:57:11some of the gentlemen in my delegation
- 00:57:13believe you placed too much confidence
- 00:57:15in the people judge wilson
- 00:57:17are they
- 00:57:18what do you suppose they mean by that
- 00:57:20well they've observed that you uh
- 00:57:22you wish to put the election of all
- 00:57:23members of the national government
- 00:57:25directly into the hands of the people
- 00:57:26and what do you believe
- 00:57:29i
- 00:57:30i'm inclined to listen to your views sir
- 00:57:33[Applause]
- 00:57:35i have to be careful here
- 00:57:37as a wee reward for sinking the pup on
- 00:57:39the last hole
- 00:57:46[Music]
- 00:57:48well
- 00:57:51[Applause]
- 00:57:52i believe that rulers are useless
- 00:57:54without the people they rule kings
- 00:57:57blue-blooded aristocrats presidents and
- 00:57:59parliaments they are the servants the
- 00:58:02people are their superiors and
- 00:58:03sovereigns so the people ought to choose
- 00:58:06every blessed one of them otherwise they
- 00:58:08get to thinking they're important on
- 00:58:09their own which of course they're not
- 00:58:20and now the reward
- 00:58:28mr madison something to enliven your tea
- 00:58:31thank you now
- 00:58:32[Music]
- 00:58:34if we start letting state legislators
- 00:58:36pick senators and senators pick
- 00:58:38presidents
- 00:58:39we'll wind up with all the tyranny and
- 00:58:41bad government we deserve
- 00:58:45do you believe in complete democracy sir
- 00:58:50do you want this nation to remain secure
- 00:58:52in its liberty
- 00:58:55leave it in the hands of the
- 00:58:58[Applause]
- 00:59:03the two night people of this convention
- 00:59:04will now come to order mr chairman
- 00:59:07recognizes mr dickinson
- 00:59:10we of delaware and indeed others here
- 00:59:13feel that it is now the proper time to
- 00:59:15review
- 00:59:16the most troublesome uh resolution in
- 00:59:18the virginia play
- 00:59:20now how the states will be represented
- 00:59:23in our new congress
- 00:59:26if
- 00:59:27representation
- 00:59:30follows population
- 00:59:33the large states will always control the
- 00:59:37legislature
- 00:59:43delaware's voice
- 00:59:47will never be heard
- 00:59:52we will never
- 00:59:55confederate
- 00:59:57if this pernicious scheme
- 01:00:00is adopted
- 01:00:04we are not talking about states but
- 01:00:07people
- 01:00:08are not the citizens of pennsylvania
- 01:00:10equal to those of delaware does it
- 01:00:12require 150 of the former to balance 50
- 01:00:15of the latter
- 01:00:16i will never confederate on mr
- 01:00:18dickinson's principles let the small
- 01:00:20stakes do as they please the rest of us
- 01:00:22will unite
- 01:00:26pennsylvania and virginia wish to strip
- 01:00:29us of our equal rights of suffrage now
- 01:00:32they talk of equality but what they
- 01:00:34really want is an enormous and monstrous
- 01:00:37influence
- 01:00:44mr sherman
- 01:00:47we can't start arguing and threatening
- 01:00:49on this issue
- 01:00:54now i thought of a plan that
- 01:00:56ought to satisfy everyone here
- 01:01:01let's have the members of the lower
- 01:01:02house of the legislature be elected
- 01:01:04according to the population in each
- 01:01:06state just as the randolph plan
- 01:01:08says that ought to satisfy the larger
- 01:01:11states
- 01:01:13and then in the upper house the senate
- 01:01:16let's have each state have just one vote
- 01:01:20one vote and no more
- 01:01:22just as we've got in the congress now
- 01:01:26i know to please the smaller states
- 01:01:30and i say let's not argue about it
- 01:01:33let's vote on it second very well just
- 01:01:36vote on the first half of mr sherman's
- 01:01:38compromise
- 01:01:39all those in favor of the lower house of
- 01:01:42the legislature being represented
- 01:01:44according to population of inhabitants
- 01:01:47signify by saying i those opposed no
- 01:01:51massachusetts
- 01:01:53[Music]
- 01:01:54aye
- 01:01:55connecticut connecticut both side of the
- 01:01:57first part of the compromise and urges
- 01:01:59all the small states to follow her lead
- 01:02:01new york
- 01:02:03i
- 01:02:05new jersey
- 01:02:07no
- 01:02:08we will wait mr sherman to see if the
- 01:02:10large states keep their part of the
- 01:02:11compromise
- 01:02:12pennsylvania aye
- 01:02:15delaware
- 01:02:16no
- 01:02:17maryland i
- 01:02:19may the largest states remember their
- 01:02:20part in this compromise
- 01:02:23virginia aye north carolina hi
- 01:02:28south carolina
- 01:02:30hi
- 01:02:31georgia
- 01:02:32hi
- 01:02:34the emotion passes in committee 962 new
- 01:02:37hampshire absent
- 01:02:38representation in the lower house of the
- 01:02:40legislature will be proportional mr
- 01:02:43chairman mr sherman
- 01:02:45all right you larger states now have
- 01:02:47your proportional representation in the
- 01:02:49lower house
- 01:02:50i now move we vote on having each state
- 01:02:53in the upper house have one vote
- 01:02:56and one vote only i remind the large
- 01:02:58states mr dickinson has said the smaller
- 01:03:01states will never agree to a plan that
- 01:03:02doesn't give them their fair share in
- 01:03:04congress i second mr sherman's motion
- 01:03:07anywhere without discussion i recall for
- 01:03:09the vote all those in favor signify by
- 01:03:11saying aye those opposed no
- 01:03:12massachusetts no
- 01:03:14what sir you do not honor our compromise
- 01:03:18your compromise sir massachusetts
- 01:03:21you might have known
- 01:03:23out of order sir the roll call will
- 01:03:25continue connecticut
- 01:03:27i
- 01:03:27york i
- 01:03:29with descent
- 01:03:31noted
- 01:03:32new jersey aye
- 01:03:34pennsylvania
- 01:03:36no mr sherman oh no
- 01:03:40delaware
- 01:03:41i
- 01:03:42maryland maryland votes i
- 01:03:46with descent no to mr jennifer
- 01:03:49virginia no
- 01:03:51north carolina no
- 01:03:53south carolina no
- 01:03:55georgia
- 01:03:56no
- 01:03:58mr sherman's second motion fails now
- 01:04:00you've torn it mr chavez the chair
- 01:04:02recognizes mr alexander hamilton i move
- 01:04:05the representation in the upper house be
- 01:04:06determined in exactly the same manner as
- 01:04:08the lower that is according to
- 01:04:09population second and while the issues
- 01:04:11are fresh in the minds of all the
- 01:04:13delegates i call for the vote now
- 01:04:15indeed
- 01:04:16very well the states will signify as
- 01:04:18usual massachusetts aye connecticut this
- 01:04:21is outrageous never in my life's vote mr
- 01:04:24sherman connecticut votes now and
- 01:04:26forever
- 01:04:27no
- 01:04:29look
- 01:04:30no
- 01:04:31new york is a large state but we are for
- 01:04:33genuine equality mr yates along with
- 01:04:35governor clinton is for anything that
- 01:04:37keeps up the trade war with new jersey
- 01:04:39[Laughter]
- 01:04:40out of order mr hamilton
- 01:04:42new jersey
- 01:04:44no yeah
- 01:04:45pennsylvania aye
- 01:04:47delaware no and let me warn them out of
- 01:04:50order mr bedford
- 01:04:52maryland no
- 01:04:54you said no to mr jennifer virginia
- 01:04:57virginia is for genuine equality of this
- 01:05:00matter hi
- 01:05:02north carolina
- 01:05:04hi south carolina aye
- 01:05:06georgia georgia votes
- 01:05:13mr hamilton's motion carries in
- 01:05:15committee six states to five new
- 01:05:16hampshire
- 01:05:18that ends debate on the virginia plan in
- 01:05:20the committee of the whole
- 01:05:22mr chairman mr dickinson
- 01:05:25this vote taken in committee is not a
- 01:05:27binding vote we all know that
- 01:05:30we
- 01:05:30that is the small states must
- 01:05:33deliberate we ask
- 01:05:44we might as well leave the convention we
- 01:05:46mustn't rush into extremes
- 01:05:49madison is right
- 01:05:50we must not lose the opportunity to
- 01:05:52strengthen our country madison is a
- 01:05:55nationalist and wilson is another and i
- 01:05:57am another
- 01:05:59some of us act as though this is some
- 01:06:00debating contest it is not the life of
- 01:06:04the union is at stake mr dickinson the
- 01:06:07life of january is also i believe we can
- 01:06:09get the virginia plan referred back into
- 01:06:11committee but how did we have something
- 01:06:14to put forward against it i have been
- 01:06:16writing such a plan mr yates it is
- 01:06:18purely federal
- 01:06:19it keeps most of the articles of
- 01:06:21confederation and gives us our fair vote
- 01:06:23in congress
- 01:06:24excellent dan carroll is leaving the
- 01:06:26convention
- 01:06:27that leaves mr jennifer and myself in
- 01:06:29the maryland delegation and as you know
- 01:06:31mr jennifer is a
- 01:06:32nationalist
- 01:06:34maryland's what will be neutralized that
- 01:06:36must be prevented somehow i tell you i
- 01:06:39will never confederate without my
- 01:06:41state's fair vote in the senate on that
- 01:06:44we are all agreeing mr bedford
- 01:06:46we must try
- 01:06:49much depends on your plan mr patterson
- 01:06:52[Music]
- 01:06:55but the virginia plan has already been
- 01:06:57thoroughly debated it is ready for a
- 01:06:59binding vote in general assembly why
- 01:07:01should it be sent back into committee of
- 01:07:03the whole so that it may be discussed on
- 01:07:06an equal footing with mr patterson's
- 01:07:08plan
- 01:07:09and the convention is so voted six
- 01:07:11states to five
- 01:07:12the session is adjourned until tomorrow
- 01:07:14a gentleman may come forward to make
- 01:07:16copies of mr patterson's proposals
- 01:07:31you see the consequence of pushing
- 01:07:32things too far if you would follow mr
- 01:07:34sherman's compromise your plan would
- 01:07:36never have been returned to committee
- 01:07:38but you insist on sweeping all before
- 01:07:40you to the advantage of the large states
- 01:07:42to no one's advantage sir but the
- 01:07:44american peoples indeed
- 01:07:46then this convention meets in vain
- 01:07:50where is the advantage to the american
- 01:07:52people then
- 01:07:59[Music]
- 01:08:01so
- 01:08:03[Music]
- 01:08:11mr madison
- 01:08:12do you like music
- 01:08:19[Music]
- 01:08:19[Applause]
- 01:08:25[Music]
- 01:08:33i think
- 01:08:35[Music]
- 01:08:41[Applause]
- 01:08:46[Music]
- 01:08:49[Applause]
- 01:08:51[Music]
- 01:08:58[Applause]
- 01:09:00thank you very much
- 01:09:06[Music]
- 01:09:08hmm
- 01:09:10the flutes
- 01:09:13the flute is a noble instrument
- 01:09:16jefferson
- 01:09:17first the violin
- 01:09:18yes do you have a problem
- 01:09:22um
- 01:09:23i i am i'm afraid uh unrefined in my
- 01:09:27tastes and music
- 01:09:28[Music]
- 01:09:29so long as it's
- 01:09:31quiet i'm
- 01:09:32content
- 01:09:35[Music]
- 01:09:49it seems to me
- 01:09:50we have achieved a great deal at this
- 01:09:52convention
- 01:09:55as the architect of the virginia plan
- 01:09:58you were to be congratulated
- 01:10:00thank you sir
- 01:10:03but now
- 01:10:04[Music]
- 01:10:06it is time to compromise
- 01:10:08on the composition of the senate
- 01:10:11never it's inequitable true
- 01:10:14and now they want to refer the virginia
- 01:10:16plan back into committee
- 01:10:19i think sherman is behind that in roger
- 01:10:21sherman you may well find the salvation
- 01:10:24of your plan
- 01:10:25his compromise brought the small states
- 01:10:28closer to its adoption than any other
- 01:10:30speech made on the floor
- 01:10:32you voted against it so did dr franklin
- 01:10:35we were wrong to do so
- 01:10:37we must take care
- 01:10:40another loss and proud men like
- 01:10:41dickinson will abandon the convention
- 01:10:44well let them we still maintain the
- 01:10:46majority a simple majority is not enough
- 01:10:50what we need mr madison is consensus
- 01:10:53among us harmony
- 01:10:55that alone will ensure the
- 01:10:57constitution's success
- 01:10:59history will not forgive us
- 01:11:01history yes
- 01:11:03you persuaded me to come to this
- 01:11:05convention
- 01:11:07well
- 01:11:08here i am mr madison
- 01:11:10and i will not see this convention
- 01:11:13crumble around me because the brightest
- 01:11:16and stubbornest of us will not yield the
- 01:11:19senate to the states it is not only me
- 01:11:22sir you heard mr wilson say that
- 01:11:24pennsylvania will not
- 01:11:26confederate on the one-state one-vote
- 01:11:28principle pennsylvania yes
- 01:11:30[Applause]
- 01:11:35let pennsylvania take care of itself
- 01:11:38[Music]
- 01:11:43[Applause]
- 01:11:47i'm very fond of this music
- 01:11:49[Music]
- 01:11:53it is so
- 01:11:56harmonious
- 01:11:57[Music]
- 01:12:02gentlemen we have heard mr patterson's
- 01:12:04plan it maintains the status quo
- 01:12:06magnificently but it offers no remedies
- 01:12:08to the evils that have brought us all to
- 01:12:10philadelphia mr chairman
- 01:12:13i move that we reject the patterson plan
- 01:12:15in committee
- 01:12:17and send the virginia plan back to the
- 01:12:19general assembly for debate and binding
- 01:12:21votes
- 01:12:23my second ocean
- 01:12:25mr sherman out of order mr patterson we
- 01:12:27need a compromise but your plan won't
- 01:12:29work mr patterson
- 01:12:31he just keeps us in the mire
- 01:12:33at least governor randolph's tries to
- 01:12:35pull us out very well vote in the usual
- 01:12:37manner
- 01:12:40and so the dangerous plan of mr
- 01:12:42patterson was defeated
- 01:12:44for the last several days the virginia
- 01:12:46plan has been debated in general
- 01:12:48assembly the arguments over
- 01:12:49representation in the senate go on and
- 01:12:52on
- 01:12:53alexander hamilton tired of being
- 01:12:55constantly outvoted has left the
- 01:12:57convention and gone home to new york
- 01:13:06the larger states proceed as if we were
- 01:13:08blind
- 01:13:09now mr madison insist that the large
- 01:13:12states will never hurt the small states
- 01:13:14if we give up our equality in the senate
- 01:13:17but i do not trust you sir let the large
- 01:13:20states do as they like
- 01:13:22there are other recourses for the
- 01:13:23smaller states
- 01:13:25we can find some foreign ally
- 01:13:27someone of more honor and good faith who
- 01:13:29will take us by the hand and do us
- 01:13:32justice
- 01:13:36what mr bedford has spoken is treason
- 01:13:40whatever may be my distress i will never
- 01:13:43never quote really
- 01:13:51gentlemen this bickering does not
- 01:13:53further
- 01:14:10the small progress we have made in these
- 01:14:12last weeks
- 01:14:14is a melancholy proof of the
- 01:14:16imperfections of human understanding
- 01:14:21how has it happened
- 01:14:22that we have forgotten to humbly implore
- 01:14:25the father of lights to illuminate our
- 01:14:28understanding
- 01:14:30during the late contest with great
- 01:14:32britain we many times offered prayers
- 01:14:34for help
- 01:14:35in this very room
- 01:14:39and our prayers were
- 01:14:40heard and they were graciously answered
- 01:14:46[Music]
- 01:14:47[Applause]
- 01:14:50the longer i live the more convincing
- 01:14:52proofs i see of this truth
- 01:14:55that god governs in the affairs of men
- 01:15:01if a sparrow cannot fall without his
- 01:15:04notice
- 01:15:06is it probable that a great nation can
- 01:15:08rise without his aid
- 01:15:13[Music]
- 01:15:26i hereby adjourn this convention until
- 01:15:29july second
- 01:15:30three days helps
- 01:15:33the stakes upon return to general
- 01:15:35assembly
- 01:15:36will be prepared for their final votes
- 01:15:38on representation in the senate
- 01:15:43[Music]
- 01:16:08[Music]
- 01:16:10so
- 01:16:13[Music]
- 01:16:34[Music]
- 01:16:41[Music]
- 01:16:50[Music]
- 01:16:54[Applause]
- 01:16:55[Music]
- 01:16:56[Applause]
- 01:17:00anything gentlemen no thank you perhaps
- 01:17:03later mrs house thank you
- 01:17:21mr madison we are on the brink of
- 01:17:23disaster
- 01:17:24this convention will fracture if there's
- 01:17:26any more debate on representation we can
- 01:17:28still win general we have the vote the
- 01:17:30battle yes what about the war i wonder
- 01:17:33if we do have the votes we have virginia
- 01:17:36the carolinas georgia pennsylvania and
- 01:17:38massachusetts the small states have
- 01:17:40delaware connecticut new jersey and new
- 01:17:42york maryland will split between
- 01:17:44jennifer who is with us
- 01:17:46and martin who is with them
- 01:17:48we will win six states to four i'm not
- 01:17:51so i'm afraid
- 01:17:52pearson few of george has left for new
- 01:17:54york why to attend congress
- 01:17:56in addition mr pierce is engaged to
- 01:17:58fight a duel mr hamilton i believe is to
- 01:18:00act as his second
- 01:18:02well that still leaves houston uh and
- 01:18:06baldwin baldwin in the georgia
- 01:18:07delegation houston will vote with us
- 01:18:10what about baldwin abraham baldwin is
- 01:18:12new to the state of georgia
- 01:18:14he emigrated there three years ago
- 01:18:17but he was born and bred in connecticut
- 01:18:20all right
- 01:18:21georgia may divide along with maryland
- 01:18:22but we still win five states to four and
- 01:18:25we may no we will
- 01:18:27we will i feel very confident
- 01:18:47mr jennifer is not here how long can you
- 01:18:50wait
- 01:18:52i cannot mr madison we begin at 11.
- 01:19:04my second session of this convention
- 01:19:06will come to order
- 01:19:09where is mr jennifer mr madison you are
- 01:19:12out of order
- 01:19:13i'm sure i don't know mr madison
- 01:19:15and dispose perhaps mr president to
- 01:19:18recognize delegates from connecticut mr
- 01:19:20oliver ellsworth i call the question on
- 01:19:22the issue which has plagued this house
- 01:19:23for so long
- 01:19:25i move that in the new senate each state
- 01:19:27will have one vote
- 01:19:30president i second my colleague's motion
- 01:19:35states will vote on mr ellsworth's
- 01:19:36motion in the usual manner
- 01:19:39massachusetts no
- 01:19:42connecticut hi new york
- 01:19:44aye
- 01:19:45new jersey
- 01:19:46aye pennsylvania no
- 01:19:48delaware aye
- 01:19:50maryland
- 01:19:51maryland votes aye mr president it
- 01:19:54appears as though the maryland
- 01:19:55delegation is not fully represented
- 01:19:57mr jennifer is not here that has not
- 01:19:59hindered votes in the past and neither
- 01:20:01will it now so long as mr jennifer is in
- 01:20:04philadelphia our rules allow merlin's
- 01:20:06vote to be cast
- 01:20:09say again mr president maryland votes
- 01:20:11aye
- 01:20:12so noted mr martin
- 01:20:14virginia
- 01:20:15no
- 01:20:16north carolina no south carolina no
- 01:20:21georgia
- 01:20:23how does georgia vote mr house
- 01:20:26mr president uh georgia is divided i
- 01:20:30vote no mr baldwin votes aye
- 01:20:33well
- 01:20:34general assembly which one state absent
- 01:20:37georgia divided
- 01:20:38the convention uh voted
- 01:20:42five to five in mr ellsworth's motion at
- 01:20:44the time
- 01:20:53as the delegation from maryland is now
- 01:20:55complete i move we vote a second time on
- 01:20:57mr ellsworth motion
- 01:21:00mr president chair recognized the
- 01:21:02delegate from maryland mr martin may i
- 01:21:05remind certain gentlemen that in
- 01:21:06committee of the whole
- 01:21:07this body may vote a second time on
- 01:21:09emotion or as many times as it wishes
- 01:21:11but in general assembly it is simply not
- 01:21:13permitted
- 01:21:14our votes are binding and final
- 01:21:16mr martin's point of order is correct
- 01:21:18thai stands
- 01:21:21mr president chair recognized delegate
- 01:21:23from connecticut
- 01:21:25well
- 01:21:26we're at a place where we can't move one
- 01:21:28way or another
- 01:21:30do we just go home
- 01:21:31and admit we failed
- 01:21:35let's try a committee
- 01:21:38let's have one delegate from each state
- 01:21:40get together and try to figure out a
- 01:21:43compromise mr president mr mattis
- 01:21:47i am sensible for the need of compromise
- 01:21:50in some cases but i am against this
- 01:21:52committee it will merely delay us
- 01:21:54anything that can be proposed in a
- 01:21:56committee can just as easily be proposed
- 01:21:58right here
- 01:22:00mr president to recognize mr dickel
- 01:22:04can it be that mr madison opposes a
- 01:22:06committee because he fears that
- 01:22:08reasonable man out of earshot of his
- 01:22:10rhetoric will uphold equality in the
- 01:22:12senate
- 01:22:14i am in favor mr president
- 01:22:17can i recognize dr franklin
- 01:22:20we are at a dead stop mr madison
- 01:22:23it is time to compromise
- 01:22:30[Music]
- 01:22:46to the glorious fourth
- 01:22:50they're calling it the grand committee
- 01:22:55they ought to call it the pact committee
- 01:22:57look who's on it every small state
- 01:23:00sympathizer in the convention well dr
- 01:23:02franklin is representing your state
- 01:23:05he is an old diplomatist he will as he
- 01:23:08would put it compromise for the higher
- 01:23:10good
- 01:23:11no
- 01:23:12the senate will be a non-democratic body
- 01:23:17we've lost
- 01:23:19yes
- 01:23:20[Music]
- 01:23:22[Applause]
- 01:23:25all right
- 01:23:27but look how much we've won one
- 01:23:31at the beginning of this convention the
- 01:23:33delegates were willing to
- 01:23:35tinker with the articles
- 01:23:38in their most fearful nightmares of
- 01:23:40democracy
- 01:23:41they never envisioned giving up state
- 01:23:43sovereignty
- 01:23:44think of it
- 01:23:46petulant little delaware threatened to
- 01:23:48walk out
- 01:23:49then they voted for a strong national
- 01:23:50government
- 01:23:52why
- 01:23:53because you came to philadelphia with a
- 01:23:55plan i hope neither you gentlemen will
- 01:23:57be wanting a meal
- 01:23:58and that's short-handed now with the
- 01:24:00celebrations going on uptown and all
- 01:24:02that i can't be offering cooking now
- 01:24:04thank you no this drinks will be fine of
- 01:24:06course you come back tonight and you'll
- 01:24:07see us in our busiest why we keep the
- 01:24:09glorious fourth and grander fashion than
- 01:24:11any tavern in town no doubt sir
- 01:24:14sir tell me
- 01:24:18where do you stand on the issue of good
- 01:24:20government
- 01:24:22well we here at the tavern don't want a
- 01:24:23king and that's flat nor shall you have
- 01:24:25one sir i give you my word and of course
- 01:24:27we want el kept at a fair price
- 01:24:30i've been doing a lot of reading on
- 01:24:32these new ideas for government well mr
- 01:24:34madison you see
- 01:24:35we americans have the advantage we read
- 01:24:37and comprehend issues
- 01:24:39and i want a government that's not just
- 01:24:41for you and not just for me and that's
- 01:24:44even unfair for everyone by my record
- 01:24:46and that's a good government
- 01:24:50[Music]
- 01:24:51would you join us sir in the drink to
- 01:24:53the fourth
- 01:24:54that i will sir
- 01:25:00to the american people
- 01:25:01the foundation of our liberty
- 01:25:03[Music]
- 01:25:06before our departure
- 01:25:08i wish to make it clear to the house
- 01:25:11that both mr lansing and myself oppose
- 01:25:14and will continue to oppose any system
- 01:25:17which has an object the consolidation of
- 01:25:19these united states into one government
- 01:25:24i've made up my mind
- 01:25:39[Music]
- 01:25:47tuesday july 10 1787 by dear mr hamilton
- 01:25:53debate of the report of the grand
- 01:25:54committee proceeds without an end in
- 01:25:56sight
- 01:25:59[Music]
- 01:26:02your colleagues mrs yates and lansing
- 01:26:05have left the convention for new york
- 01:26:07vowing to work against the convention
- 01:26:09it is the first time an entire state has
- 01:26:11left
- 01:26:13i am sorry you went away
- 01:26:15i wish you were back
- 01:26:18our councils are now if possible in a
- 01:26:20worse train than ever i am so yours
- 01:26:23truly
- 01:26:24george washington
- 01:26:27[Music]
- 01:26:30having ready to ride in an hour
- 01:26:37gentlemen
- 01:26:38we have now debated the compromise
- 01:26:40report of the grand committee for nine
- 01:26:42days
- 01:26:43i for one have grown weary of the
- 01:26:46long-windedness of its detractors i
- 01:26:48therefore call the question on the
- 01:26:50report second
- 01:26:52we are as ready to resolve the question
- 01:26:54as you are sir
- 01:26:56very well
- 01:26:58as debated and amended
- 01:27:01this compromise provides for a lower
- 01:27:03house which represents the states
- 01:27:04according to the population
- 01:27:06in the upper house each state will have
- 01:27:08two senators each senator will have one
- 01:27:10vote i remind the gentleman
- 01:27:13his vote will be binding
- 01:27:19massachusetts
- 01:27:21massachusetts is divided sir
- 01:27:23what
- 01:27:25mr strong and i both aye mr king and mr
- 01:27:27gorham vote now
- 01:27:32connecticut
- 01:27:33connecticut votes in favor of the grand
- 01:27:35committee's compromise you're here
- 01:27:38new jersey
- 01:27:48the house welcomes back mr hamilton
- 01:27:50thank you mr president would someone
- 01:27:52please give mr hamilton copy this report
- 01:28:01i will
- 01:28:02come to new york last
- 01:28:06and i'll proceed with the roll call
- 01:28:09new jersey
- 01:28:12aye
- 01:28:13pennsylvania
- 01:28:14pennsylvania despite its elder statesman
- 01:28:17being on the committee
- 01:28:19concludes that it will vote against its
- 01:28:20report
- 01:28:22my disappointment over this is mitigated
- 01:28:25by the fact that at least i live here in
- 01:28:26philadelphia and can be carried to my
- 01:28:28home each night of this interminable
- 01:28:30convention
- 01:28:38delaware
- 01:28:46i please you could be with us for this
- 01:28:48vote mr jennifer
- 01:28:50virginia
- 01:28:51[Music]
- 01:28:58no
- 01:29:00with exception noted sir
- 01:29:04north carolina
- 01:29:05north carolina is in favor of the
- 01:29:07compromise
- 01:29:14south carolina
- 01:29:16no
- 01:29:17georgia no
- 01:29:20miss hamilton have you had sufficient
- 01:29:22time to read the report i have mr
- 01:29:24president are you prepared to cast new
- 01:29:26york to vote on it i am
- 01:29:28new york without hesitation votes
- 01:29:30nothing i beg your pardon for nothing
- 01:29:33mr president mr dickinson in the middle
- 01:29:35of a vote this seems hardly the time our
- 01:29:38rules are very specific
- 01:29:40a state in order to be represented by a
- 01:29:42quorum must have at least two delegates
- 01:29:45in the city
- 01:29:46two
- 01:29:47in the city gentlemen
- 01:29:49new york has only one
- 01:29:51therefore mr hamilton may not vote
- 01:30:09gentlemen from delaware is correct
- 01:30:12i'm fine
- 01:30:18with massachusetts divided new york
- 01:30:20ineligible and new hampshire absent
- 01:30:23the compromise report
- 01:30:26passes in general assembly
- 01:30:28support
- 01:30:30we've done it
- 01:30:31and now for other businesses mr
- 01:30:33president chair recognizes governor
- 01:30:35randall mr president i moved that this
- 01:30:37convention adjourned that the large
- 01:30:38states might consider a compromise a
- 01:30:40true compromise not this sham which
- 01:30:42benefits only the small states
- 01:30:44mr president i recognize mr patterson
- 01:30:47let the large states take a day to hatch
- 01:30:49their scheme
- 01:30:50but we will never back down from this
- 01:30:52binding vote
- 01:30:54this convention is adjourned until
- 01:30:56tomorrow morning
- 01:31:00[Music]
- 01:31:14mr madison there are still a great many
- 01:31:17issues that they make in this convention
- 01:31:26[Music]
- 01:31:42[Music]
- 01:32:05you got out early this morning mr
- 01:32:07madison
- 01:32:12[Music]
- 01:32:43no good government can be built upon the
- 01:32:46foundation proposed by the small states
- 01:32:48nor will it i agree
- 01:32:51it's time to move on to other matters
- 01:32:54the small states are fixed
- 01:32:58we must yield on the representation
- 01:33:00issue
- 01:33:03at last
- 01:33:04someone sees the truth of the matter
- 01:33:08the small states have compromised
- 01:33:09gentlemen
- 01:33:11now we must
- 01:33:14you are strangely quiet mr madison
- 01:33:19judge wilson and dr franklin are correct
- 01:33:24no one could be more disappointed than
- 01:33:27myself that the convention has chosen
- 01:33:29what to me seems an unjust system
- 01:33:31this
- 01:33:32great compromise
- 01:33:34has created a new kind of nation
- 01:33:37one such as i had never considered
- 01:33:39its national government is strong and
- 01:33:41sovereign but it has states
- 01:33:44which are also strong
- 01:33:46separate states
- 01:33:48but a united people
- 01:33:52it is neither man nor horse but like the
- 01:33:54centaur half of each i don't know
- 01:33:56whether such a creature can survive in
- 01:33:58the rough and tumble of the world
- 01:34:01but i am willing to make the hazard i am
- 01:34:04for the compromise
- 01:34:06i am for the united
- 01:34:08states
- 01:34:10of america
- 01:34:11[Music]
- 01:34:29when the compromise report the grand
- 01:34:31committee was approved
- 01:34:32a key issue of the convention was
- 01:34:34decided
- 01:34:35during the next eight hot humid weeks
- 01:34:37the house debated amended and approved
- 01:34:40the other resolutions of the virginia
- 01:34:42plan in general assembled
- 01:34:44a committee of style refined the
- 01:34:45language of the new constitution
- 01:34:48i am especially fond of the preamble not
- 01:34:51we the states
- 01:34:52but we the people
- 01:34:54this shows to all the world that in
- 01:34:56america
- 01:34:57the people will
- 01:34:58govern
- 01:35:00this party is now ready to vote in
- 01:35:02general assembly
- 01:35:04major jackson
- 01:35:05will now read the final draft
- 01:35:07of the constitution of the united states
- 01:35:12[Music]
- 01:35:18we the people of the united states
- 01:35:21in order to form a more perfect union
- 01:35:24establish justice ensure domestic
- 01:35:26tranquility provide for the common
- 01:35:29defense
- 01:35:30promote the general welfare
- 01:35:32and secure the blessings of liberty to
- 01:35:34ourselves and our posterity
- 01:35:37do ordain and establish this
- 01:35:39constitution for the united states of
- 01:35:41america
- 01:35:46article 1 section 1
- 01:35:48all legislative powers hearing granted
- 01:35:50shall be vested in the congress of the
- 01:35:52united states which shall consist of a
- 01:35:54senate and house of representatives
- 01:35:58the house of representatives shall be
- 01:35:59composed of members
- 01:36:01[Music]
- 01:36:05the executive power shall be vested in
- 01:36:07the president of the united states of
- 01:36:09america
- 01:36:11he shall hold his office during the term
- 01:36:13of four years
- 01:36:14and together
- 01:36:17the judicial power of the united states
- 01:36:19shall be vested in one supreme court and
- 01:36:22in such inferior courts as the congress
- 01:36:24may from time to time not to convene
- 01:36:26against domestic violence
- 01:36:29the congress whenever two-thirds of both
- 01:36:31houses shall deem it necessary shall
- 01:36:33propose amendments to this constitution
- 01:36:36or on the application of the legislature
- 01:36:40under the authority of the united states
- 01:36:43shall be the supreme law of the land
- 01:36:46the senators and
- 01:36:50[Music]
- 01:36:51this representatives
- 01:36:53but no religious tests shall ever be
- 01:36:55required as a qualification to any
- 01:36:57office or public trust under the united
- 01:36:59states
- 01:37:01the ratification of conventions of nine
- 01:37:03states shall be sufficient for the
- 01:37:05establishment of this constitution
- 01:37:07[Music]
- 01:37:09done in convention by the unanimous
- 01:37:11consent of the state's present
- 01:37:13the 17th day of september in the year of
- 01:37:15our lord
- 01:37:161787
- 01:37:20of the independence of the united states
- 01:37:21of america the 12. thank you mr
- 01:37:25[Applause]
- 01:37:27mr president
- 01:37:28dr franklin
- 01:37:32i confess
- 01:37:34there are parts of this constitution i
- 01:37:36do not yet approve
- 01:37:39but i am not sure i shall never approve
- 01:37:41of them
- 01:37:42because the older i grow more i doubt my
- 01:37:45own judgment and pay attention to the
- 01:37:47judgment of others
- 01:37:51when you get together a group of men to
- 01:37:53take advantage of their wisdom
- 01:37:55of course you get all their passions and
- 01:37:57their prejudices
- 01:37:59their errors and their selfish views
- 01:38:03can a perfect production be expected
- 01:38:05from this
- 01:38:09i am astonished to find it approaching
- 01:38:11so near perfection as it does
- 01:38:15yes gentlemen yes i i consent to this
- 01:38:18constitution
- 01:38:20and i urge all others to do so
- 01:38:24because i expect none better
- 01:38:27and
- 01:38:29i'm not sure it is not the best
- 01:38:33thank you dr franklin
- 01:38:41we will now vote on whether or not to
- 01:38:43accept the constitution gentlemen this
- 01:38:45vote will be binding
- 01:38:47new hampshire
- 01:38:49aye
- 01:38:50massachusetts
- 01:38:51massachusetts votes i
- 01:38:54connected
- 01:38:55mr president
- 01:38:56connecticut is pleased with the
- 01:38:58compromises of this body
- 01:39:00she votes
- 01:39:01ah
- 01:39:03new jersey
- 01:39:07pennsylvania
- 01:39:08hi
- 01:39:10delaware
- 01:39:18colonel mason is accepted
- 01:39:24mr president
- 01:39:27i've been wrestling with myself the last
- 01:39:29several days
- 01:39:32and i feel duty bound to say that i
- 01:39:34would sooner chop off my right hand
- 01:39:37than put into the constitution as it
- 01:39:39outstands
- 01:39:40but why
- 01:39:42there's no declaration of rights in this
- 01:39:45document
- 01:39:47this comes very late sir when we are on
- 01:39:49the verge of concluding our business if
- 01:39:51you feel so strongly on this point sir
- 01:39:53why did you not mention it sooner i feel
- 01:39:55that such a bill could be prepared in a
- 01:39:57few hours mr president mr sherman of
- 01:40:00connecticut we don't need a bill of
- 01:40:02rights in the constitution because all
- 01:40:03the states have already got one mr
- 01:40:06sherman is correct we have written this
- 01:40:08constitution with the express intent of
- 01:40:10protecting the people from nevertheless
- 01:40:14generations of americans yet unborn
- 01:40:18will look back to us
- 01:40:20for protection of their rights
- 01:40:24we must not fail him
- 01:40:31[Applause]
- 01:40:37thank you colonel convention appreciates
- 01:40:39your candy
- 01:40:41i expressed my personal regret sir that
- 01:40:43you cannot find yourself a friend in
- 01:40:45this document mr president
- 01:40:48i also accept myself
- 01:40:51but you presented the virginia plan
- 01:40:55i have many reservations as to the form
- 01:40:57in which it has been cast
- 01:40:59i know i am taking a step which may be
- 01:41:02the most awful of my life
- 01:41:04but it is dictated by my conscience
- 01:41:13your exception is noted
- 01:41:17[Music]
- 01:41:18um
- 01:41:21well gentlemen shall we proceed with the
- 01:41:23roll call
- 01:41:26north carolina north carolina
- 01:41:30south carolina i
- 01:41:32georgia
- 01:41:33i
- 01:41:38unanimously
- 01:41:40eleven states to none
- 01:41:42this convention has on this day
- 01:41:45september 17 1787
- 01:41:49voted to accept as its ruling document
- 01:41:53the constitution
- 01:41:54of the united states
- 01:42:02[Applause]
- 01:42:08[Applause]
- 01:42:14mr president
- 01:42:16miss hamilton though i am unable to vote
- 01:42:18on the motion i will sign the
- 01:42:20constitution so that new york may be
- 01:42:21represented on so important
- 01:42:24if i might be allowed
- 01:42:25indeed you may
- 01:42:29well
- 01:42:31what remains for us to do
- 01:42:34is sign
- 01:42:41this is for me
- 01:42:43a great moment
- 01:42:44[Applause]
- 01:42:47i've prayed for it
- 01:42:48[Music]
- 01:42:50and i will continue to pray for the
- 01:42:52success of this document
- 01:42:55for i believe it to be
- 01:42:57the hope of this country
- 01:42:59[Music]
- 01:43:20[Music]
- 01:43:30[Music]
- 01:43:49[Music]
- 01:43:51thank you
- 01:43:52[Music]
- 01:43:54[Laughter]
- 01:43:56general
- 01:43:58painters have found it difficult to
- 01:44:00distinguish in their art a rising sun
- 01:44:02from a setting sun
- 01:44:05in the midst of my hopes and fears
- 01:44:07during this convention
- 01:44:09i've often looked at the sun on the
- 01:44:11president's chair without being able to
- 01:44:13tell whether it was rising or setting
- 01:44:17but now i have the happiness to know it
- 01:44:20is a rising sun
- 01:44:27[Music]
- 01:44:58we faced a task more difficult than can
- 01:45:00be conceived by those who were not
- 01:45:01concerned in its execution
- 01:45:04men of different minds and diverse
- 01:45:06opinions came together to debate our
- 01:45:08great cause and yet the degree of
- 01:45:10concord which ultimately prevailed was a
- 01:45:12miracle
- 01:45:15[Music]
- 01:45:25[Applause]
- 01:45:28[Music]
- 01:45:31[Applause]
- 01:45:32[Music]
- 01:45:38[Applause]
- 01:45:39[Music]
- 01:45:41[Applause]
- 01:45:45[Music]
- 01:46:09the constitution needs now to be
- 01:46:12ratified by the supreme authority of the
- 01:46:15people themselves yours very sincerely
- 01:46:18james madison
- 01:46:20[Music]
- 01:46:34i know i know mr adams really
- 01:46:39hey lord marthan
- 01:46:41there you have on your obstructionist
- 01:46:42desk the most important document ever
- 01:46:44written a piece of paper that will
- 01:46:46change the world
- 01:46:48read it well
- 01:46:49it marks the end of england's domination
- 01:46:51of the hemisphere
- 01:46:53from this moment america takes her place
- 01:46:55as an equal in the family of nations
- 01:47:00gentlemen
- 01:47:01[Music]
- 01:47:17[Music]
- 01:47:30you may take the oath
- 01:47:33[Music]
- 01:47:36i solemnly swear
- 01:47:38that i will faithfully execute the
- 01:47:40office
- 01:47:41of president of the united states
- 01:47:44and will to the best of my ability
- 01:47:47preserve
- 01:47:48protect
- 01:47:49and defend
- 01:47:51the constitution
- 01:47:53of the united states
- 01:47:58[Applause]
- 01:48:01long live george washington president of
- 01:48:05the united states
- 01:48:08[Music]
- 01:48:08[Applause]
- 01:48:18[Music]
- 01:48:21[Applause]
- 01:48:22[Music]
- 01:48:25[Applause]
- 01:48:29just
- 01:48:30done we are a national
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