Getting Start With MagickML

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Summary

TLDRThe video guides viewers through setting up Magic ML, an AI development environment for creating AI-driven projects like chatbots and workflows. It requires Docker, Yarn, and Node.js 18 or higher and suggests the use of additional tools like Chromium and ffmpeg for advanced features. The speaker demonstrates the process of cloning the repo, installing dependencies, and starting the development server. Key components such as the state manager, event manager, and agent manager are explained, along with troubleshooting tips for common SSL certificate issues. The tutorial ends with tips on saving and importing projects within Magic ML.

Takeaways

  • 🔧 Magic ML is used for developing AI projects like chatbots and workflows.
  • 🚀 Requires Docker, Yarn, and Node.js 18 or higher for setup.
  • 🌐 Suggested tools for advanced features include Chromium and ffmpeg.
  • 📝 Clone the Magic ML repo and install dependencies using Yarn.
  • 🔍 Key components include state manager, event manager, and agent manager.
  • 💡 Troubleshoot SSL issues with self-signed certificates and browser settings.
  • 🔗 Integrates platforms like Discord and Twitter through agents.
  • 📁 Functionality can be exposed as REST APIs.
  • 🖥 Recommended to use Chromium for development.
  • 💾 Regularly save and export projects to avoid data loss.
  • 🎥 Set up enables further exploration into video and voice processing.
  • 📚 Comprehensive guide to start and manage AI-related tasks.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    In this segment, the speaker introduces Magic ML, an AI development environment designed for creating chatbots, workflows, and other AI ML tasks. Key setup requirements include Docker, Yarn, and Node.js 18 or higher. Docker is recommended for ease of setup, particularly for managing containers like the Postgres database. Additionally, advanced features may require installing Chromium, Fmpeg, and Xpdf. The initial steps include cloning the repo and installing dependencies using Yarn. Once installed, running the development server will load various containers like Redis, allowing the server to start.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The speaker provides guidance on handling self-signed SSL certificates that may cause issues while accessing the server. They demonstrate how to bypass certificate warnings in Chromium by using advanced settings or commands like 'this is unsafe'. The video transitions into demonstrating the Magic ML interface which features no spells initially. The speaker creates a new spell called 'Echo', emphasizing the use of the node graph for building AI functionalities. They outline the utility of the composer for constructing node graphs, the use of the state manager for storing state across nodes, and the event manager for handling various events.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:17:00

    The focus is on detailing the functionality of Magic ML's agent manager, which is pivotal in creating agents capable of operating across different platforms like Discord and Twitter. The speaker also touches upon using the platform's REST API for broader web connectivity. The demo proceeds to test the basic functionalities of a node graph by setting up a simple input-output workflow with an 'Echo' node to ensure the graph operations work as expected. As a final step, the speaker demonstrates how to import preset graph structures, using a test spell as an example, culminating the session with an assurance of the effectiveness of these initial setup and testing steps.

Mind Map

Video Q&A

  • What is Magic ML?

    Magic ML is an AI development environment for creating chatbots, workflows, and AI/ML projects.

  • What are the requirements for setting up Magic ML?

    You need Docker, Yarn, and Node.js 18 or higher. Docker is recommended but not necessary.

  • Can npm be used instead of Yarn for Magic ML setup?

    Yes, npm can be used, but Yarn is suggested.

  • What additional software is recommended for advanced Magic ML features?

    Chromium, ffmpeg, and xpfd are recommended for advanced features like voice and video processing.

  • How do you start a new Magic ML project?

    Clone the Magic ML repo, install dependencies using Yarn, and run 'npm run dev' to start the development environment.

  • What is the purpose of the state manager in Magic ML?

    The state manager allows you to store and manage state across the graph to create stateful processes.

  • How can you troubleshoot SSL certificate issues during Magic ML setup?

    Use self-signed certificates and adjust browser settings to ignore certificate warnings.

  • What is the role of the agent manager in Magic ML?

    The agent manager creates and manages agents with various capabilities, including integration with platforms like Discord and Twitter.

  • How does Magic ML handle REST API integration?

    Magic ML's functionalities can be exposed as REST APIs without built-in authorization.

  • What is the recommended development browser for Magic ML?

    Chromium is recommended for its developer-friendly features.

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  • 00:00:02
    good evening friends
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    today we're going to get magic ml setup
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    magic ml is an aide is an AI development
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    environment for creating chat Bots and
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    workflows and pipelines and other kinds
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    of AI ml sort of task based sort of
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    projects
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    it requires Docker yarn and node.js18 or
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    higher you can use npm but I suggest you
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    use yarn instead of npm
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    should use Docker you don't need Docker
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    you could set up the containers
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    especially the postgres database locally
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    but we suggest to use Docker it's a lot
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    easier to get set up and you should
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    definitely make sure using node.js 18 or
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    higher we're using some of the latest
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    isomorphic JavaScript stuff yeah I smart
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    for me that's it's like the front end
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    and that requires no JSA team
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    if you're going to do any of the more
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    advanced voice video processing stuff
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    that we have available including Discord
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    voice you should make sure that you um
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    also sorry a Google search or any kind
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    of browser automation you should make
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    sure that you're installing a chromium
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    fmpeg and xpfd
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    um
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    and then we can get installation right
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    to get our goal is to kind of get to
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    this window or at least sort of a blank
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    version
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    so the first thing we want to do is
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    we're going to want to clone the repo
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    um I'll you also need to get installed
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    obviously you can do this with the GUI
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    get I'm going to do this in Linux on my
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    terminal it's much the same
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    so let's see I'm going to go here I
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    actually have the project installed but
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    I will do this from a new
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    perspective of a new install
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    so let's make a new terminal
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    we've got here and I'll type in get
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    clone magic ML and I will say uh demo
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    magic demo
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    great
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    and it will take a little while this
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    clone is quite large
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    um okay well let's go and talk about
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    what we're going to do next
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    uh npm install well
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    well I did say we should use yarn
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    I can use npm install or you can use QRS
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    whatever you want
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    um Ellie's yarn install
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    nope sorry I'm sorry to go in there
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    first so I put the CD into my folder
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    and so as of right now we have quite a
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    lot of dependencies in here we're
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    extracting them out into a plug-in
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    system so you can install Discord or
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    Twitter or whatever kind of plugin you
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    want
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    um or many plugins
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    um with the goal of being able to Route
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    data from you know you can your agent
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    can connect to Discord but also be
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    connected to Twitter and and use both
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    these data sources input and output
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    um right now all that's actually an
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    internal to the project so it's quite a
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    large install so while that is
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    installing
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    um I do have uh another cake that's been
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    in the oven for a while
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    um this is just another install of
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    magical
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    so assuming that that install is
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    finished the next thing we're going to
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    want to do is npm run Dev now this is
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    the Quick Start I'll show you the slow
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    start after we've done the quick start
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    because it's a lot easier for
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    development to split up the uh these
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    pieces in case you want to refresh
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    things
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    so NPR on dev
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    and that's going to start abbreviate the
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    database all these containers with cache
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    server which is redis
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    goes through
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    redis that is
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    I always wonder
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    I hear it both ways
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    go see what the founder said
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    um it looks like the server is loading
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    on 8001
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    and probably somewhere buried in there
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    our client started up on
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    4200 yeah so that's our our client so
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    we're gonna open that up
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    um so there's a couple of common gotchas
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    that I'm gonna show you
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    one of them I'm gonna make a new
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    temporary window sorry I'm just gonna do
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    this off of my screen
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    because I've already opened this here
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    and I've already accepted my
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    certificates and you might have an issue
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    I want to make sure that we just
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    troubleshoot that really quick
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    so
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    we probably won't have any open windows
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    and it will probably look either like
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    that window or like this
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    um
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    but I'm going to take that into my
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    temporary window to show you this
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    troubleshooting thing real quick
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    so we're using self-signed certificates
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    and SSL
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    so you can avoid this by creating your
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    own SSL certificates and putting them in
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    the search directory of
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    um the the project repo but you're
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    probably not going to do that you're
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    probably going to want the easy thing
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    that doesn't require understanding a
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    bunch of certificate stuff so I'm going
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    to show you the sort of hockey way to
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    get around that
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    if I go into my console you will see
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    that I have an error and I'm stuck on
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    this please wait and so if you're stuck
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    here you see this and then check your
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    console you don't have to check your
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    console you just go there but it's a lot
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    easier to find where you got to go by
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    checking your console
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    so I'm going to copy this link address
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    and make that away and you'll see my
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    connection is not private
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    um the reason is just because the
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    certificate Authority that issued the
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    certificate is not associated with my uh
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    like my computer doesn't trust it
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    basically and
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    you know your computer won't trust it
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    either so if you press Advanced you can
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    proceed to localhost now
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    I'll help you with one other
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    troubleshooting thing you might say well
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    but I don't see in advanced okay great
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    so let's load Chrome right
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    pull that
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    um I recommend using chromium for
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    development uh just generally it
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    um has some nice features
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    but Chrome is nice too
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    so that's going to load up
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    I'll just uh load up profile
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    and if I go to this
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    you will see oh hey look at that
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    advanced
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    okay well it actually allowed me now in
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    previous versions Chrome it didn't allow
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    me and uh so what I would type is this
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    is unsafe if you're not if you can't get
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    through on Chrome type this is unsafe
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    you can also type I know what I am doing
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    but I suggest you type this is
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    shorter
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    um and you could look it up you know you
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    can see that on like a Mac you're gonna
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    have to do that in order to get through
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    um
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    you know it is unsafe but we're
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    connecting to ourselves I think it's
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    gonna be okay
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    okay so you can see we have no spells
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    um this is actually our back end server
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    if you type slash spells to our server
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    you can see it's got no spells
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    but in our front end we can also see
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    there's no spells let's refresh that
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    really quick
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    and then you can see we've got no spells
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    for sure so let's create a new spell
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    um I would like my spell to be named
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    I'm just going to Echo my response back
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    so I'm just going to tell I'm going to
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    call it Echo
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    cool this is I want my input to be my
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    output so this is what you should be
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    seeing
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    my inspector
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    um
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    so let's just give a quick outlay of
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    what's going on here
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    um this is called your composer this is
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    where you actually built your node
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    graphs you can put node graphs inside of
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    node graphs and so this is kind of how
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    you can post them up here you can add
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    many note graphs open many up and and
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    kind of switch between them
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    um over here if you have a node that has
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    text editor it will show up here
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    let me show you what that looks like if
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    I go and create a variable let's say a
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    few shot variable which is just a fancy
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    way of saying
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    AI way of saying
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    prompt or text
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    um
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    I will uh you will see that I have a
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    text editor right here right and I can
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    save it and then I can take that and
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    put into other things it's very useful
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    for building a few shot templates and
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    other kinds of tasks
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    I have a state manager the state manager
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    um I can store State across the graph so
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    I have the ability to write and read
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    State and I also have access to the
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    state in certain nodes like the code
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    node so this is kind of a way to track
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    graph state
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    uh if you want to you really don't have
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    to use this but some people like to
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    think of like kind of a you know having
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    state that propagates from the beginning
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    to the end and then you can grab that
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    state and then even like bring it back
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    in the next Loop and put it back in at
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    the start so that you can create kind of
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    a statefulness that way I tend to use
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    events and recalling events for kind of
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    say for loot but this this is a good way
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    to do it this is also fairly performant
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    and it's just passing an object around
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    um the event manager so this lets me
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    view all the different events
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    um against uh I can just arbitrarily
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    create and save events like if I in my
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    agents I can store event
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    um events
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    that's how I start conversation usually
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    um the primary event is like a main
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    event and then if you want to store a
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    secondary event you can put it there
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    um and that would be like the speakers
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    as a message and then the agent response
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    to it or the topic changes and maybe you
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    want to start the old Topic in the in
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    the topic change right
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    um and that way you only have to recall
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    the last topic to also get the little
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    topic
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    um and then you can even do like
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    comparisons and you know things like
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    that
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    um what else we also store facts this
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    way um but usually I only use the
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    primary event and I'll just add facts or
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    I could add agent facts and primary vet
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    and speaker facts in the secondary
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    um you know I can imagine a lot of
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    different ways I might use that I also
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    have a
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    recall event
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    ventricle this is kind of the opposite
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    this actually gets the event back
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    um great so
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    um then I also have an agent manager so
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    agent manager lets us create agents
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    agents uh some UI is not too great but
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    basically you put in like your open AI
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    key your ethereum keys and then you can
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    enable different
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    excuse me um
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    a uh connectors for your agent this is
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    Kyle you can have an agent that you know
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    is multimodally aware of input and
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    output streams on all of these different
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    uh sort of
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    um platforms so right now we're really
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    focused on Discord and Twitter
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    um the rest we have written the code for
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    and tested at some point but they're
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    temporarily deprecated we'll bring them
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    back to the new plugin system
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    um but the two that really focus on are
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    right here
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    um and if you want your agent to do any
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    kind of AI stuff you will definitely
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    need to put an open AI key
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    cool
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    um the Avatar down here is for
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    previewing uh it will play back voice
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    and mouth moves eventually we'll have uh
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    integration with our character creator
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    stuff this is a little bit temporary
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    right now just for testing
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    um but this this is designed to sort of
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    all unified interact with your agents so
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    you can uh
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    communicate with an agent if you want to
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    you don't have to do embodiment this is
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    just kind of for fun you can totally
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    close that and not even think about
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    avatars as part of your thing if you're
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    just doing rest crafts and stuff don't
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    don't worry about the avatar
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    um so this this whole thing is actually
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    exposed as a rest API
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    um right now it's unauthorized we're
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    assuming you'll bring your own
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    authorization and wrap it on top
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    but if the community wants authorization
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    we'll add it
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    um Marcel wants to build it
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    um that means that if you were too
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    exposes to the internet people could
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    access these graphs and run them
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    um if you built the authorization on top
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    that also means that you know you can
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    safely just build rest endpoints with
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    this tool not not even really thinking
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    about agents or anything at all
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    but the agents are really a way to
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    create the statefulness of a of us of a
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    the agent the difference is that the
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    agent carries its own State and does its
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    own action as opposed to somebody coming
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    and hitting your rest API and basically
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    just calling this graph right here and
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    getting an output but if you wanted to
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    have an uh just you know a rest API
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    Builder that ran your notebook this
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    could be really really helpful for
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    running some arbitrary JavaScript or
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    python or notebooks or or of course the
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    whole complex pipeline of logic and all
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    that
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    um
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    so sorry I digress going on into the
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    rest of the UI here
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    um you see we have the uh the play test
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    uh and the console so the console let's
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    drag it over here
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    um the console shows you output of
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    certain nodes
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    um
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    and the play test lets you drive input
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    into the nodes
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    so the play test there's two different
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    kinds of ways you can use it
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    um but I'm gonna have to show you uh in
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    the context of kind of building up this
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    uh this little graph we're going to do
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    um so I have a trigger n
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    I have an input I have an output right
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    great I'm gonna
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    um
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    take the trigger in and make sure that
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    it says received from play test and for
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    this output I'm also going to make sure
  • 00:14:07
    that that is true and then for the
  • 00:14:08
    output the same I'm going to send a play
  • 00:14:10
    test I want to make sure that those are
  • 00:14:11
    all true and then in the middle I'm
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    going to add
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    an echo node and the echo node just
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    shows me a result of whatever's coming
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    through uh but one thing this may be
  • 00:14:22
    fixed but we've noticed that if you just
  • 00:14:24
    kind of Drive the output directly into
  • 00:14:25
    the input the the craft Runner doesn't
  • 00:14:27
    really like that because it doesn't have
  • 00:14:28
    any work to run
  • 00:14:30
    um to set the values
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    um so we have to have some kind of work
  • 00:14:36
    between our inputs and outputs yeah I
  • 00:14:38
    mean we it's kind of an edge case that
  • 00:14:39
    you would ever not have some kind of
  • 00:14:41
    work anyway right even if it was a
  • 00:14:43
    decision to not send work so this is
  • 00:14:46
    kind of the most MVP
  • 00:14:48
    you know minimum viable graph that I
  • 00:14:51
    just get some input sense of output
  • 00:14:55
    I can save it by going to file save
  • 00:14:58
    um and I say pretty constantly also
  • 00:15:00
    since this is very very Alpha technology
  • 00:15:02
    I highly recommend that as you save you
  • 00:15:04
    also export your spells that way later
  • 00:15:07
    you will be able to import them back
  • 00:15:09
    into your graph
  • 00:15:10
    okay
  • 00:15:11
    so
  • 00:15:13
    um all good got your input got your
  • 00:15:15
    output uh got your Echo
  • 00:15:18
    and let's say hello world
  • 00:15:22
    and you can see well I said hello world
  • 00:15:24
    and I got a response of hello world
  • 00:15:27
    uh and so it did what I expected it to
  • 00:15:29
    do now if I were to not have those
  • 00:15:32
    connected what would happen
  • 00:15:36
    ah nothing I get no response so clearly
  • 00:15:39
    uh this Echo is doing what I expect
  • 00:15:42
    um you can also verify that the control
  • 00:15:44
    flow is coming through and another nice
  • 00:15:46
    thing is
  • 00:15:47
    um
  • 00:15:48
    it's like test you know this this green
  • 00:15:50
    will show you uh nodes that run a nodes
  • 00:15:52
    that don't run so if I had another node
  • 00:15:54
    here you know I want to fully engaged
  • 00:15:59
    let me do that again so it's not
  • 00:16:00
    highlighted hello you'll see it's not
  • 00:16:03
    highlighted it shows you the execution
  • 00:16:04
    flow of the graph
  • 00:16:07
    um
  • 00:16:08
    so yeah I mean that's uh you know
  • 00:16:11
    there's obviously quite a lot to get
  • 00:16:13
    into with all the different things but
  • 00:16:15
    just keep it simple
  • 00:16:16
    um this is kind of how you get started
  • 00:16:19
    um I guess the last thing that I'll show
  • 00:16:21
    you is importing graphs so if you want
  • 00:16:24
    to say load Eliza which is our uh in
  • 00:16:27
    development sort of AI project go to the
  • 00:16:31
    file go to the open menu let me do that
  • 00:16:33
    again really quick open spell here and
  • 00:16:36
    you go to the import button right there
  • 00:16:37
    and then uh you go to your downloads and
  • 00:16:40
    you'll just randomly open one of those
  • 00:16:44
    look at that pretty cool
  • 00:16:47
    and there you go
  • 00:16:49
    um just got a random I mean obviously
  • 00:16:51
    this is another test spell I was running
  • 00:16:55
    um and that's it
  • 00:16:57
    hopefully that was helpful
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