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obviously Anna we love it when you come
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on loosen because you're allowed to
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smile you don't have to look to stir
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know exactly we always love to see you
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and now one of the things you wanted to
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talk about while you were here is autism
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and you've talked about the fact you
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have Asperger's yes firstly am i
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pronouncing that correctly well I think
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so it's named after a guy called Hans
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Asperger who was Austrian ah possibly
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German I can't remember but the Germans
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would pronounce it Asperger's a lot of
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people say people say to me what don't
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you like people to say uh what offends
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you like honestly it's really hard to
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offend me I mean sometimes people get
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stuff wrong okay so they get stuff wrong
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and how old were you when you got an
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official diagnosis uh it was in 2005 so
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I was new I was 46 and did it I did it
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was a relief to get that um is this or
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not yeah it was it kind of it made sense
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of a lot of things it's I mean I I
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started suspecting it in about 2003 took
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me about two years to get the diagnosis
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and why did you did you start to suspect
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it um III think that I saw a documentary
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on TV and there was just something about
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it that the rung bells in my brain I
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remember in my diary writing I'm being
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lee suspect to suspect again that I have
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Asperger's syndrome and I have looked
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back through my diaries and I cannot
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find any place where I started
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suspecting it earlier they say there's a
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lot of undiagnosed adults actually there
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was a documentary recently I think it
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was just called are you autistic and
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there were two out of the group who were
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officially diagnosed it and do you say
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I'm autistic or I have Asperger's um is
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there a difference well okay it always
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used to be the case that there was
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high-functioning autism which is when
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you know you can function you're not
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actually just sitting in the corner
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rocking and being nonverbal but you have
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all sorts of there's things you struggle
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with the driven high-functioning autism
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and Asperger's traditionally was always
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that you were diagnosed with Asperger's
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if you didn't have any speech do
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as a child if you talked at the normal
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age then that was Asperger's and if you
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didn't it was how a functioning autism
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and it's and it's right isn't it it's
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much harder to a lot more girls go
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undiagnosed than boys but yes this
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learning to mask and Cantor I mean there
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probably is more autism among boys learn
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among girls but it is extremely under
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diagnosed it used to be I seem to
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remember eight years ago there was a
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statistic that there are four times as
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many autistic boys as there are girls
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but there are 10 times as many
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undiagnosed girls so yeah many what were
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the traits that kind of left out that
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you get usually just a little boy
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arguing with his mother and just the
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tone of his voice rang bells something I
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thought that's sort of absolutely
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despairing squeal that she just does not
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understand what it is that's bothering
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you yeah I mean now I haven't had a sort
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of proper screaming meltdown since I was
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about 13 not a proper toddler tantrum
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since then but I can get very stroppy if
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I'm tired and overworked and and and
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what about in your holding down a job
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you have obviously you know very high
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profile job - a job yeah I mean the
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difficult bit really is just simply
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keeping myself organized enough to
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actually get myself to Elstree and you
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know with the suitcases and checked into
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the hotel be a lot easier if I lived
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down here which is you know something I
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might be you can so do you have to come
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is it that you you can do that as long
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as you focus just like everything else
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yes a lot of other stuff doesn't get
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dealt with or gets dealt with very
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slowly or very late hell of a moving day
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because you say that you've got quite a
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clutter
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yeah people sometimes say you know you
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don't seem autistic where do you keep
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your it autism and I'm like it's behind
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my front door you do seriously not let
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people into your house oh not at the
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moment I'm just no guys you know when
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I've got it sorted but not right now and
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you don't you don't believe in holidays
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right well no I just don't really my
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idea of time off my idea of down time is
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just simply to stay home and relax and
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just sort of surf around on the Internet
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basic until you need that and do you
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think because you have Asperger's yeah
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you need quiet that's some kind of
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downtime I need I just need everything
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to go quiet people to stop bothering me
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and I need to not have to be thinking
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about you know when I'm gonna get packed
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you know I like to have my own kitchen
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so I can cook and I like to have a
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washing machine talking about washing do
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you ever feel lonely or just being on
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your own is is the best thing ever in my
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life as far as I know felt lonely I'm
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never lonely and rarely bored and the
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most boring thing would be to be with
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people who just you know wouldn't shut
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up there's a lot of women on this show
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that a row straight talking as well does
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that sometimes do you find that gets
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lumped into oh you've got Asperger's
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therefore that's why you're you're you
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know you've just said that very matter
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matter yeah I mean just sort of tend to
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be quite matter of fact I mean there are
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times when I might sort of occasionally
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lash out at someone and people will make
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excuses oh she's naive and autistic and
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actually you know it was probably
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because I was overworked and stressed
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and hadn't slang and you know somebody
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may just have happened to say the wrong
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thing at one moment and any time now I
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was gonna bite someone's head off and
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that person was in the way and and it
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probably doesn't say anything about that
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particular person he said not mentioning
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any names
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I'm not telling you to say the wrong
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thing and I just bit her head off on
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live TV would we know who she is
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very possibly and is actually supporting
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the autism hour which is a very
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interesting this is where they're going
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to get businesses supermarkets and
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things to have an hour where they turn
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the music off they turn the lighting
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down so that people with autism and
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Asperger's who find those things
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difficult can shop yeah just sound like
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a nice idea I have to say quite a lot of
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my finger I having this autism out quite
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early in the morning I'm not good at
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getting up
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you