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hey what's going on everybody i wanted
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to break down the gvwr and the gawr
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on these trucks for both cdl and non-cdl
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uh because there seems it kind of seems
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to be a hot topic right now
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and i know there's been a lot of
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comments and questions there's been uh
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i've actually gotten some questions
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direct on this
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and i've seen a couple other channels
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that are starting to talk about this now
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too
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so i just kind of wanted to to put it
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out there as well
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uh so everybody's kind of got more
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information to go around
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don't ever just watch one of these
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channels if you're if you're researching
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this watch
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as many as you can the most common
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themes you see
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the thing that gets talked about the
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most is probably going to be the
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accurate one
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uh the one the one that is on track the
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most the one that
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that you hear the most about and and the
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information is all the same
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uh you can start to cipher through
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what's what's the truth what's not
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what's
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uh a theory what's actual reality you
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know i mean you
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you can start to separate everything uh
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the more you expand and the more you see
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more of a common theme
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that's probably the one you need to
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shoot towards uh because there is some
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misinformation
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but you can you can kind of limit that
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yourself
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by watching everything and that will
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help you pick through
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what's that what's accurate what's
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inaccurate what's kind of iffy
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you know the gray area and all that
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stuff you know and all that stuff will
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come with time
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but today i wanted to talk about the
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gvwr
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the gawr how it applies to non-cdl
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hotshot
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how it applies to cdl hotshot and
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when you start throwing out all the
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numbers it it it would to somebody new
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get confusing
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but this is absolutely something that
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you do have to know because this will
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dictate how
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much weight you can haul and where you
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can put it
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uh the distribution is just as important
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as how much uh so let's jump into that
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i'm gonna hop outside show you where
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these are on your truck and your trailer
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and then we'll break it down from there
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all right so you can see the first place
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we're going to
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come to is right here to the driver's
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side door jamb
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right next to the hitch i've covered up
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the bin there
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you'll see on here your gross vehicle
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weight rating your gbwr
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is 14 000 pounds your front gawr
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which is your front axle 5600
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your rear gawr rear axle
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9900 okay this is where you get your
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info
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your total gross vehicle and buy the
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axles
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now we'll go back to the trailer
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on the trailer on mine up at the neck
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right here on this is the sticker
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everybody talks about when they de-brake
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now this the gvwr 25 000 pounds
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i have 10k axles well how do you know
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that well the front
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10 000 pounds rear 10 000 pounds
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so i'm gonna take pictures of this i'm
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gonna go back in the truck i'm gonna
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break this down
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okay now in order to break this down
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you're only going to need two things
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you're going to need an
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empty scale ticket which is your truck
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everything in it that you're going to
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haul
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everything on your trailer that's going
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to be on your trailer your body
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food drinks anything you could think in
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a full tank of fuel
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very important fill up because because
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this is going to determine that if
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you've got pack fuel tanks
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you're still not going to be overweight
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you can go pick up and be fine you can
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press it to the limit
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but you can actually become overweight
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if you go fill up
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and you don't know what your maximum is
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so
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this is how you break that down go get
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an empty weight ticket buy axle at a cat
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scale or whatever scale that will break
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it down you need your steer axle
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the drive axle of the truck and your
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trailer axle group
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all separated on this scale ticket and
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i'll show you one of mine
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an empty scale ticket that i have on
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this very combination to break down how
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you would do this and the process to
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break my
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setup down is the process to break any
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setup down
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it's all the same you just need an empty
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scale ticket and a calculator
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okay so here is my empty weight scale
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ticket this is everything in my truck
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that i operate with including myself
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going across the scale with no load
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this is just the truck trailer me and
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everything i've got in my truck to do
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business with
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my steer axle weighs 5160 pounds
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my drive axle weighs 6280 pounds
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my trailer axle weighs 6460 pounds
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for my axle group my total truck
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and trailer with everything in it and
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nothing on the trailer
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weighs already seventeen thousand nine
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hundred pounds
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now i do run a cdl setup so
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let's take that we'll come back to all
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this later
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5160 for the steer 6280 on the drive of
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the truck
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for 6 460 pounds on the trailer axle
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group
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total weight 17.9
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now for the registration sticker on the
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truck
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now the registration sticker on the
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truck
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this is a ford f-350 a one-ton dually
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okay
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the register the gbwr which means the
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most that this
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vehicle can weigh total is 14 000 pounds
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the gvwr is per vehicle the trailer is
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actually considered a vehicle it's
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considered a towed vehicle
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but this truck cannot weigh more than 14
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000 pounds
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5600 pounds can legally go on the steer
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axle
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by itself 9 900 pounds can legally go
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on the drive axle by itself now if you
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do the math on that
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you're going to see that that comes out
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to 15 500 pounds
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does that mean that's what you can haul
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no in these instances
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see those are the gross axle weight
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ratings
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and even though those are more than what
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the those added up are more than what
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the truck can actually hold
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you always go by the lowest number
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that's when it comes to these guys
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derating their trailers
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they have to derate their trailers to do
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non-cdl
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okay so even though the axles add up to
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15 500
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we can't weight more than 14 000. so
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where does this come into play
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well if you think about it your neck of
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your trailer comes over into the bed
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directly over the axle the rear axle
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this 5160 pounds that my front axle
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weighs
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unless i add anything to the front of my
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truck will never change
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that's what this is going to weigh 5 160
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pounds
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the rear axle can hold 9 900 pounds
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now i've already got 6280 when i'm
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hooked up to my trailer
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on that rear axle so do in order to see
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how much
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more weight i can add to that axle
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do we deduct the 9900 that it can hold
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from what's already on it to find out
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how much we can put there
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that would be 9900 minus 6280 that comes
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out to 3620 pounds can we do that
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no why because our truck
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already without a load has 5100
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on the on the front axle and 6280
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on the rear so when you add those
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together it comes out to eleven thousand
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four hundred and forty
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now deduct that from the gross that this
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vehicle can weigh
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which is 14 000 we come out with 2
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560 pounds if you would have just put
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3620 on here to max out the rear axle at
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99 at 9900
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you would have ended up weighing 15 060
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pounds
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on the truck itself you'd have been a
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thousand and sixty pounds overweight
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and this catches people that don't
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realize how to do the math on this
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all the time you have to add up what
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your truck already weight that's why
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scaling is so
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important with everything you've got and
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a full tank you have to know
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what you can put on this trailer and
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where you can put it
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now when we go to the trailer my trailer
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is registered at 25
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000 pounds gvwr i have 10k
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axles which means that the trailer group
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back there cannot weigh more than 20
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000.
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so i even though this trailer can hold
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25 000 pounds legally
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it can't all be on the back of the
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trailer
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over the over the rear you have to
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disperse it to where the truck soaks up
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some of that too
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because i can only my trailer group can
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only weigh 20 000
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pounds which when you take that away
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from 6460
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the amount of weight that i can sit
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directly over those trailer axles
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is 13 540 pounds
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when we go back remember the math we can
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only add 2560 to
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the the neck of the trailer
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because you got to remember guys this
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trailer weighs something too
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it's not dead empty this group these
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axles the trailer itself it's all
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sitting on the trailer wheels
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so it already has weight that's why you
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have to scale to find out what you
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already weigh
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the weight of the trailer factors into
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the gross as well it's not like you can
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just haul 25k
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that's what the entire trailer can weigh
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with the load and itself
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so you take the 13540 that i can put
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directly over my trailer and that's
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maxing the axles out back there
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i can only put 2560
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on the front of the trailer to max out
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the truck so the total that i can put on
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this trailer
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dispersed perfectly to gross my
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truck at 14 000 and my trailer axles at
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20k
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is 16 100 pounds that is the most i can
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put on this truck
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and trailer set up the 25k i'll never
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hit
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because i legally can't my axle rating
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is smaller than the gvwr of this trailer
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on the truck it's the exact opposite
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you can max out the truck very easily
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if you don't disperse weight because
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your gvwr
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is less than the combined axle ratings
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of this truck
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but when you are non-cdl and you take
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two 7k
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axles which is 14 000 pound capacity
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and drop that to 12 in order to meet the
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26
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your trailer axle ratings no matter no
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longer matter
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you won't legally be able to hit 14k on
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those because your gvwr
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is now 12 000. that's the most
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those trailer axles can weigh and
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apparently there's some confusion about
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that too
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but it's whichever number is less on the
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trailer
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in my instance my axle rating is less
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than my trailer
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on the truck the axle rating is higher
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like i said guys it's whichever is less
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the gvwr on this is less than the gawr
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on the truck my gvwr on the trailer is
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more
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than the gawr on the trailer whichever
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is less that's what you're operating by
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and you have got to know your empty
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weights because that determines how much
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freight you can haul
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this is an easy way to get an overweight
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ticket overweight tickets are not free
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and you will get shut down until you can
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get rid of that weight
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whichever number is less when you start
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derating something it's so that you can
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find
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it so that you can gain a loop i mean to
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be honest it's because you're kind of
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cheating
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the registration to fit your needs
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because if you were that trailer as is
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will make you have to get
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you know operate as a cdl hotshot but to
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in order to get it all under 26k by
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weight
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or by the by the vehicle by the gvwr
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ratings
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you have to derate the trailer when you
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derate the trailer
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those 7k 8k 10k axles whatever you have
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it's out the window 12k is now your
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your max so i hope this helped out guys
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i know it's
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it's a lot of numbers it's a lot of math
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but
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this is so important because this pre
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this is why most people right here
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this is why all the hot shots get yanked
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into way stations
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between this and not having paperwork in
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order
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this right here is why we'll see you
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guys next time
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so
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you
