THAT'S SLANDER AND A SLUR! Debate IMPLODES In Heated Confrontation
Summary
TLDRThe debate was a contentious discussion between Destiny and Kim about U.S. politics, focusing mainly on potential candidates for future elections, including Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Destiny argued in favor of Harris, criticizing Trump's lack of policy clarity and leadership failures, while Kim opposed Harris, criticizing her record and policies, and expressed support for Jill Stein. Key issues discussed included democratic processes, immigration, economic impacts of the candidates' policies, foreign policy, and the role of the U.S. in international conflicts. The conversation highlighted significant differences in views on democracy, party leadership, election integrity, and the handling of domestic and foreign policy issues.
Takeaways
- 🇺🇸 Kamala Harris's candidacy is debated with strong opinions both for and against her.
- 💰 Economic policies are a major point of contention, particularly concerning inflation and job growth.
- 🗳️ The democratic process within political parties, especially how candidates are chosen, is scrutinized.
- 🌍 Foreign policy and the United States' role on the global stage are critically examined.
- 🔒 The debate includes a focus on crime and law enforcement policies.
- 👥 Differences in handling domestic political challenges are highlighted, with a focus on Trump and Harris.
- 📉 Trump's economic policies, particularly tariffs and deficit spending, are heavily critiqued.
- 🔍 Election integrity and processes, including challenges and outcomes, are central topics.
- 💡 The debate also touches on perceived failures and successes of recent administrations in handling crises.
- 🇷🇺 Russia's influence and global relations with adversaries like China are discussed.
Timeline
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The discussion opens with a question about whether Putin is a dictator and draws parallels with historical obligations to fight against oppressive regimes, like in World War II. The speaker criticizes current conservative media for spreading misinformation and supports the idea that facts should unite discussions. They argue Democrats are more reality-based compared to conservatives who have diverged from factual reality, as seen in the Dominion lawsuit against Fox News.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Support for the Democratic Party and Kamala Harris is presented, arguing that Democrats are more effective in policy-making and governance compared to Republicans, citing the unfulfilled promises under Trump's presidency such as the failure to build a wall despite majorities in Congress. The narrative suggests Democratic policies are pragmatic, pointing to decisive actions like passing the Chips Act and proposing realistic economic solutions amidst challenges like inflation.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
A critique of the Republican party under Trump is made, calling Trump’s actions un-American and treasonous due to his attempts to subvert the electoral process and pressure officials to alter electoral outcomes, particularly highlighted by the events around January 6th and attempts to manipulate the DOJ. Support for Kamala Harris is framed as a better choice based on these political and ethical evaluations.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
The opposing viewpoint starts with criticism of Kamala Harris’s path to vice presidency, suggesting it was anti-democratic due to a lack of primary support and being selected by party elites, overriding voter enthusiasm or confidence. This argument paints a concern over democratic processes within the Democratic Party itself, contrasting with Republican primaries' openness.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
The debate continues with accusations against the Democratic establishment of bypassing democratic choices by enforcing Kamala Harris as the nominee, while affirming the importance of open primaries for democracy. There's a back-and-forth on whether private party operations align with democratic values and whether party decisions inherently challenge democratic ideals.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Discussion oscillates between defining democracy within party operations versus public elections, with one side arguing each party’s right to choice candidates in their own manner. Questions about the democratic nature of open primaries question their effectiveness due to low participation and generalized inefficiencies. The focus is on the DNC's choice as pragmatically strategic rather than undemocratic.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
The debate turns towards economic policies where the Democrats are argued to be handling inflation post-COVID better than Republicans under Trump, citing policy actions like the Chips Act. The discussion also dissects Trump's economic hypotheticals like high tariffs, assessing them as potentially inflationary, contrasting Democratic achievements and visible economic recovery against Republican fiscal strategies.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Criticism is directed towards Democratic management of the economy under Biden and Harris, accusing them of high inflation and economic mismanagement, countered by a defense stating COVID's global economic impact and Democratic legislative responses, which include infrastructure investment and tax credit impacts. The claim denies improvements while emphasizing current economic hardships facing Americans.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
As the discussion continues on crime policies, the conversation acknowledges the role of state versus federal influence on crime rates, with critiques of Harris's past record as a prosecutor. The debate suggests Democrats' perceived leniency on crime with policies like 'defund the police' and bail reforms contribute to rising crime concerns, despite some statistical claims of crime reduction post-Trump administration.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
Foreign policy is scrutinized, with Harris's stance likened to more interventionist policies compared to a more isolationist stance advocated by Jill Stein. Harris is criticized for aligning with Hillary Clinton's foreign policy approach while promoting the United States' role as a global leader versus encouraging a multipolar world where other countries dominate geopolitics, which is viewed as detrimental by the opposing voice.
- 00:50:00 - 00:55:00
The contrasting views on foreign policy include one side stating the U.S. should avoid intervention in global conflicts not related to national interest, while the other defends U.S. interventions as essential for global stability and moral leadership. The debate reflects on whether military and diplomatic influence from the U.S. helps maintain world order or unjustly enforces American political agendas abroad.
- 00:55:00 - 01:00:00
Discussion reverts to Trump’s election disputes and whether his actions represent a democratic process or an insurrectionist attempt. The defense suggests Trump had a right to challenge elections legally, while criticisms argue his attempts involved breaking laws after exhausting avenues and misled narratives about the election results, culminating in the Capitol riots.
- 01:00:00 - 01:05:00
Clarification is sought on what constitutes democratic ideals and practices within the U.S., contrasting private party operations with broader democratic principles. It’s argued that party control doesn’t necessarily reflect undemocratic practices unless public voting rights are compromised. The debate touches upon the historical evolution of primaries as part of democratic practice.
- 01:05:00 - 01:10:00
The question of foreign political influence in U.S. domestic politics is raised, with concerns about Russian interference recurrently brought up, citing past indictments and current skepticism regarding media and electoral influences. One side calls for stronger actions against such interference, while others question the validity and outcome of past investigations.
- 01:10:00 - 01:15:00
Examination of primaries and party dynamics shows the complexity of internal party nominations and how they align or misalign with public expectations. The discussion highlights possible criticisms of party sameness in choices, yet recognizes the legal structures in place that allow party autonomy in candidate selection without infringing public election processes.
- 01:15:00 - 01:34:18
As the video concludes, the closing statements reiterate faith in U.S. governance and democratic resilience, albeit acknowledging inherent system weaknesses and the necessity for continuous democratic practice improvements. The debate ends with a call for informed voting and participation in the democratic process, encouraging audience engagement with political discourse and learning.
Mind Map
Video Q&A
Is Putin considered a dictator in the debate?
Yes, Destiny agrees that Putin is a dictator due to his control over the state, economy, and media.
Did Kim support Kamala Harris in the debate?
No, Kim did not support Kamala Harris and argued against her policies and candidacy.
What was a major point of disagreement in the debate?
A major point was whether Kamala Harris should be supported over Donald Trump, with Destiny advocating for Harris and Kim opposing her.
What were Kim's views on Trump's policies?
Kim was critical of Trump and did not support him, despite disagreeing with the Democratic party.
Did the debate touch on international relations and obligations?
Yes, discussions included the role of the U.S. in international conflicts and its moral obligations.
How did Destiny view Jill Stein's foreign policy?
Destiny critiqued Jill Stein's foreign policy as unrealistic and harmful to U.S. leadership globally.
Was Kamala Harris's record on crime discussed?
Yes, her record as a prosecutor and her party's stance on law enforcement were debated.
Did the debate address election processes in the U.S.?
Yes, it included discussions about the Democratic party's nomination process and general election dynamics.
What was a repeated criticism of Donald Trump during the debate?
Destiny repeatedly criticized Trump for lacking clear policy plans and failing to pass significant legislation.
Did the debate discuss the economic policies of Harris and Trump?
Yes, there was a discussion on how each candidate's policies might influence the U.S. economy.
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- 00:00:00is Putin a dictator and will you
- 00:00:02denounce Russia's involvement with
- 00:00:04tenant media is Putin a dictator yeah
- 00:00:06obviously of course I mean what's a
- 00:00:09dictator wait wait wait do we not feel
- 00:00:10like Putin wait so is Putin not a
- 00:00:11dictator I don't know if he's a dictator
- 00:00:13I'm not Russian I don't really care
- 00:00:16Russia wants to invade its neighbors do
- 00:00:17you not think other countries have an
- 00:00:18obligation to help no do you think that
- 00:00:20in World War II do you think the United
- 00:00:21States should have stepped up to fight
- 00:00:22against Germany I think that the United
- 00:00:24States that's an easy yes or no question
- 00:00:26should we have Ste up to fight against
- 00:00:28such an easy yes or no question
- 00:00:31don't if
- 00:00:32we will call people who from count and
- 00:00:36they ited under media uh other people
- 00:00:39that are still operating in this media
- 00:00:40environment people like yourself
- 00:00:41probably of slander that sort of slur
- 00:00:43right here in front of everybody you're
- 00:00:44a piece of [ __ ] and I speak for a lot of
- 00:00:46people when I say that I'm sure you do
- 00:00:48and I'm sure they're all flying to
- 00:00:48Moscow right now yeah I think that right
- 00:00:51now I think one of the most important
- 00:00:52things in America and I think for the
- 00:00:54world is that we all kind of get back on
- 00:00:56the same page factually about stuff
- 00:00:58that's actually happened so I think
- 00:00:59supporting Harris is important for a few
- 00:01:01key reasons and I think the first one is
- 00:01:02that right now the conservative party in
- 00:01:04the United States is completely and
- 00:01:06totally divorced from any type of
- 00:01:08factual reality I think that the
- 00:01:10Democrats whether you agree or disagree
- 00:01:11with their policies are at least more in
- 00:01:13the real world than the Republicans are
- 00:01:15if you want you can look through the
- 00:01:16Dominion lawsuit against Fox News where
- 00:01:18Fox News literally says over and over
- 00:01:19again we're going to lie about the
- 00:01:21Dominion machines they do lie about the
- 00:01:22Dominion machines the reason why they do
- 00:01:24that is to keep up with the other false
- 00:01:26conservative media that's lying about
- 00:01:27the Dominion machines and you can see
- 00:01:28this over and over and over again
- 00:01:30whether it's all of the allegations of
- 00:01:31voter fraud where Sydney pal and juliani
- 00:01:34have said that they lied about it uh
- 00:01:36whether it's Trump pushing voter fraud
- 00:01:37claims that he has been told over and
- 00:01:39over again are not true uh yeah I just
- 00:01:41think that the fact that conservatives
- 00:01:42are no longer based in reality is a huge
- 00:01:43threat to really the world because it
- 00:01:45makes us so we can't live in the same
- 00:01:46reality so we can't even discuss
- 00:01:48policies and I said we're wasting all of
- 00:01:49our time debating conspiracies and
- 00:01:51that's I think one really good reason to
- 00:01:52support the Democratic party on policies
- 00:01:54I think supporting the parties are uh
- 00:01:55supporting the Democratic party or the
- 00:01:57Harris candidacy is also important
- 00:01:58because Trump has no policies every time
- 00:02:01he opens his mouth he just says some
- 00:02:02random crazy stuff he's talking about a
- 00:02:0410% 20% tariff on All Imports I don't
- 00:02:06even know if he fully knows what a
- 00:02:07tariff is uh at times where we're
- 00:02:09worried about things like inflation the
- 00:02:11idea of adding like 10 or 20% of a price
- 00:02:14tag onto every single good that you buy
- 00:02:15is absolutely insane uh I think that uh
- 00:02:18in terms of economic policy or in terms
- 00:02:20of domestic policy I think that the
- 00:02:21Democrats are much more able to get real
- 00:02:24stuff done rather than just kind of like
- 00:02:25Pander to an audience uh for example
- 00:02:27Trump ran on building the wall he had
- 00:02:29four to build the wall he didn't build
- 00:02:31the wall he had Republicans in both
- 00:02:32halves of Congress there's really no
- 00:02:34excuse for his failures other than
- 00:02:35blaming the people around him which I
- 00:02:37don't know why he wouldn't just do that
- 00:02:38again the next four years that he's in
- 00:02:39spoiler alert he will do that again uh
- 00:02:42you know you compare Donald Trump's you
- 00:02:43know saying we're going to do something
- 00:02:44about China to Biden passing the chips
- 00:02:46act because he was able to actually be
- 00:02:48an effective leader and get Congress to
- 00:02:49legislate an actual bill or if you look
- 00:02:51at how the Democrats tried to tackle the
- 00:02:52Border problem where they had a bill and
- 00:02:54Trump shot it down because he wants to
- 00:02:55keep the Border open for election season
- 00:02:57I think it's clear that the Democrats
- 00:02:58win when it comes to actual policy um
- 00:03:00and I think Donald Trump is an
- 00:03:01individual is an abhorent aoral
- 00:03:02unamerican unpatriotic treasonous person
- 00:03:05who tried to weaponize the doj uh he
- 00:03:07tried to uh create fake slates of
- 00:03:09electors in order to overturn the
- 00:03:11electoral vote uh he basically cheer
- 00:03:13violence on January 6th to try to
- 00:03:14pressure legislators to not certify the
- 00:03:16vote uh and he tried to subvert the
- 00:03:18peaceful transfer of power only leaving
- 00:03:19when at multiple stops there were other
- 00:03:22people inside of the administration they
- 00:03:23basically stopped his attempt to uh you
- 00:03:26know like take over power in the United
- 00:03:27States to prevent the actual outcome of
- 00:03:29the election from coming to fruition so
- 00:03:31I think that Harris is a very very easy
- 00:03:33Choice over Trump basically no matter
- 00:03:35which way you look at it but yeah that's
- 00:03:36my
- 00:03:38argument you got it thank you very much
- 00:03:40for that opening Stephen and folks if
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- 00:03:48it over to Kim thanks for being with us
- 00:03:49Kim the floor is all yours for your
- 00:03:51opening as well thank you uh the reason
- 00:03:53why you should not vote for kamla Harris
- 00:03:55I think the biggest reason why you
- 00:03:57should not is to protect democracy the
- 00:03:59very thing that Democrats claim they're
- 00:04:02constantly trying to protect meanwhile
- 00:04:04uh vice president kamla Harris ran for
- 00:04:08president in 2020 she ended up having to
- 00:04:10drop out early from the race before the
- 00:04:12first primary vote because her candidacy
- 00:04:14did not generate any significant support
- 00:04:16among the Democratic electorate there
- 00:04:18was a lack of enthusiasm there was a
- 00:04:20lack of confidence in her leadership um
- 00:04:23nonetheless even without all of that
- 00:04:25support she ended up being selected by
- 00:04:27party Elites to be the vice president
- 00:04:29for Joe Biden furthermore then what
- 00:04:31Democrats have done is they have
- 00:04:33squashed any any ounce of the ability to
- 00:04:37have an election they squashed any
- 00:04:39candidates that were challenging Joe
- 00:04:41Biden unlike Republicans who actually
- 00:04:43had a primary trying to primary Donald
- 00:04:45Trump we saw numerous candidates going
- 00:04:47after Donald Trump they Nikki Haley ran
- 00:04:49a very Fierce campaign against him so
- 00:04:51did Ron De Santos meanwhile Democrats
- 00:04:54actually buried any possible um counter
- 00:04:58to any Alterna to Joe Biden they then
- 00:05:02decided to take the guy out to pasture
- 00:05:05essentially pushing him aside against
- 00:05:07his will they then had no Open Primary
- 00:05:10in order to nominate kamla Harris as the
- 00:05:13as the the candidate and they instead
- 00:05:16once again in the same very way that
- 00:05:18they made her the vice president
- 00:05:20candidate is that they just the party
- 00:05:22Elites from a very topown structure
- 00:05:24without the support of the American
- 00:05:25people without the support of their
- 00:05:27Democratic voters decided to anoint
- 00:05:30Harris as the candidate if you care
- 00:05:33about democracy even if you like kamla
- 00:05:35Harris to support that type of
- 00:05:39anti-democratic behavior is signing off
- 00:05:42on this happening over and over and over
- 00:05:45again to agree to this maybe you like
- 00:05:47KLA Harris today maybe she is the person
- 00:05:49that you think you agree with with her
- 00:05:51policies but the fact that Democrats
- 00:05:53have done it in this very undemocratic
- 00:05:56way you're pay you're Paving the way for
- 00:05:59for this uh sort of authoritarian top-
- 00:06:02down form of leadership that the next
- 00:06:05time the candidate that you don't like
- 00:06:07could end up being the one uh nominated
- 00:06:10although I will say that the vast
- 00:06:11majority of the voters do not like kamla
- 00:06:13Harris so she's not a particularly
- 00:06:15popular candidate uh she has the lowest
- 00:06:18the lowest approval rating of any vice
- 00:06:21president ever in the history of this
- 00:06:23nation since polling has come out with a
- 00:06:26negative uh a net negative rating of7
- 00:06:29so Comm if if you care about democracy
- 00:06:32if that's something that you genuinely
- 00:06:33want to preserve in this nation then you
- 00:06:35cannot support the way that the
- 00:06:37Democratic party has gone forward
- 00:06:39nominating their
- 00:06:41candidate thank you very much for that
- 00:06:43opening as well folks want to let you
- 00:06:44know we're going to have roughly one
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- 00:06:58don't want insults toward the guest you
- 00:07:00want sincere questions thank you very
- 00:07:02much Flor it's all yours Destiny
- 00:07:04Kim yeah I guess the first thing is um
- 00:07:08do we agree that Donald Trump thought
- 00:07:10that vice president Pence could choose
- 00:07:12him as the winner of the last
- 00:07:14election um I don't know what Donald
- 00:07:17Trump thought when it came to that I
- 00:07:18think that there are some legalities
- 00:07:20with how our country runs that do allow
- 00:07:22for certain procedures a lot of them are
- 00:07:25really wonky and they get into the weeds
- 00:07:28um so there is maybe a possibility that
- 00:07:30he thought something could happen but
- 00:07:33okay are you aware that are you aware
- 00:07:35that Trump and Eastman wanted Pence to
- 00:07:37break the law in Congress the Electoral
- 00:07:40count act they wanted him to break that
- 00:07:42law to choose Donald Trump to remain
- 00:07:45president once again I'm not sure if
- 00:07:47that was breaking the law or if that was
- 00:07:49using an obscure um procedur procedural
- 00:07:53rule that would allow for something
- 00:07:55along those lines that has been debated
- 00:07:57by experts I am not an expert on that
- 00:07:58but experts do debate that to be clear
- 00:08:00experts don't debate it are you aware
- 00:08:02that Eastman himself said on first how
- 00:08:04do you why do you say that experts don't
- 00:08:06debate that when they do debate because
- 00:08:07there are none find them and bring them
- 00:08:08to me and I will destroy all of them no
- 00:08:10realt there are none that there are any
- 00:08:12experts that debate whether or not there
- 00:08:14are some procedural rules that would
- 00:08:16allow for certain things to happen in
- 00:08:18during this during those procedures you
- 00:08:21don't think that there's any expert out
- 00:08:23there that was arguing that because I
- 00:08:24heard numerous experts saying that there
- 00:08:26was this you know obscure rule that
- 00:08:28would allow something like that to
- 00:08:30happen maybe from other countries but
- 00:08:33not from the United States no there were
- 00:08:35no serious experts arguing this that's
- 00:08:36why Eastman himself said that if it went
- 00:08:38to the Supreme Court he said they'd
- 00:08:39probably lose 72 then he said they'd
- 00:08:40probably lose 90 72 so two of the
- 00:08:43Supreme Court Justices do you not think
- 00:08:45that they know the laws of this country
- 00:08:47Eastman was asked on first pass do you
- 00:08:49think that they would win in the Supreme
- 00:08:50Court and he said we would probably lose
- 00:08:5272 and then he admitted they would lose
- 00:08:5490 but actually we don't know because it
- 00:08:56never went to the Supreme Court but had
- 00:08:57it maybe it would lose 7 to2 I'm not
- 00:08:59saying it would have won but the fact
- 00:09:01that there maybe would have been two or
- 00:09:03three justices that would have ruled in
- 00:09:04favor show that there is an obscure rule
- 00:09:06that potentially could have been used
- 00:09:08that Trump thought that would be
- 00:09:10possible if you're the progator if
- 00:09:12you're the originator of the idea and
- 00:09:14even you think that you would lose in
- 00:09:15the Supreme Court but maybe two people
- 00:09:17side with you that doesn't seem like an
- 00:09:19idea that's hotly contested by
- 00:09:21experts experts clearly if two of them
- 00:09:24would agree to it then maybe you
- 00:09:26wouldn't win but it still doesn't mean
- 00:09:28that the rule isn't worth Challen in
- 00:09:29there's plenty of cases that losing the
- 00:09:31Supreme Court it doesn't make them not
- 00:09:32worth challenging do you think it would
- 00:09:34be in line with American democracy for
- 00:09:36the president to tell the vice president
- 00:09:37to ignore the will of the voters and
- 00:09:39choose who the next president is going
- 00:09:40to be I think that if the will of the
- 00:09:43voters was ignored by the electoral
- 00:09:45process and if the vote was rigged then
- 00:09:47yes absolutely it would be the
- 00:09:48responsibility of the president of the
- 00:09:50United States to actually put that
- 00:09:52forward to protect democracy in this
- 00:09:53country depends on how you look at it if
- 00:09:55it were Donald Trump who subverted the
- 00:09:57election and kamla Harris actually wins
- 00:10:00and you believe in your mind or you know
- 00:10:02for sure that she actually won wouldn't
- 00:10:04you want them to challenge that wouldn't
- 00:10:06you want them to try to do whatever they
- 00:10:08could to preserve democracy the only
- 00:10:10reason you're against it is because of
- 00:10:12the person and you've got to look deeper
- 00:10:14than that it's got to be about the
- 00:10:15actual process not the person Donald
- 00:10:17Trump might not be your guy or my guy
- 00:10:20but nonetheless the process needs to be
- 00:10:22protected yes I agree with that you
- 00:10:24already said that you don't know the
- 00:10:25process so I don't know why you're
- 00:10:26appealing to the process Donald Trump
- 00:10:27did try to challenge the election with
- 00:10:2964 different court cases he won one of
- 00:10:31them in an inconsequential Pennsylvania
- 00:10:33case that didn't really impact much of
- 00:10:34the vote at all he lost the other 63 he
- 00:10:37was shot down in the Supreme Court a
- 00:10:38number of times and he was shot down
- 00:10:40when he tried to present false evidence
- 00:10:42to state legislators a number of times
- 00:10:44everywhere that he tried the process he
- 00:10:45lost and that ended up with him begging
- 00:10:47Pence to basically just choose him as
- 00:10:50the winner of the election at what point
- 00:10:51can we not say this is probably
- 00:10:53anti-democratic how is that
- 00:10:54anti-democratic he went through the
- 00:10:56process if you challenge things in court
- 00:10:58and you lose in court that's using the
- 00:10:59process just because you lost doesn't
- 00:11:01mean that you're doing anything illegal
- 00:11:02you're using was illegal to break the
- 00:11:04ECA he lost in the courts that's why he
- 00:11:06told Pence I need you to break the law
- 00:11:07and choose me to be president that was
- 00:11:09the process he went through the courts
- 00:11:10and he lost he didn't like the result
- 00:11:12and then he asked Pence to choose him to
- 00:11:13be the winner of the election this is
- 00:11:16anti-democratic I believe that that is
- 00:11:18part of the if that's part of the
- 00:11:19process that's part of the process was
- 00:11:21it part of the process when they had
- 00:11:23people Forge in seven different states
- 00:11:24that they were the electors and that
- 00:11:26they wanted to vote for
- 00:11:27Trump again there are a lot of rules
- 00:11:29with the process in fact when the
- 00:11:31Democrats were upset that Donald Trump
- 00:11:33had won in 2016 they they they pursued
- 00:11:35similar tactics can a single state where
- 00:11:38they where they had a false slate of
- 00:11:39electors made without the approval of
- 00:11:41the state legislature no I believe
- 00:11:43Colorado actually in 2016 did put
- 00:11:45forward some alternate electors or even
- 00:11:47said that they wanted to have a
- 00:11:49compromised candidate send electors to
- 00:11:52uh to to do the the election and instead
- 00:11:54put Mitt Romney in as a compromised
- 00:11:56candidate I remember hypothesizing on on
- 00:11:59what a state legislator said that they
- 00:12:01maybe they wanted to do maybe they
- 00:12:02didn't is far different than Trump
- 00:12:03campaign that's great there was a push
- 00:12:05for it that's great that some people
- 00:12:06might have pushed for it Trump Donald
- 00:12:08Trump and his underlings falsified seven
- 00:12:11different slates of electors for Pence
- 00:12:13to choose on January 6th this is
- 00:12:15anti-democratic he subvert what could be
- 00:12:16less Democratic than trying to change
- 00:12:18the outcome of the election of a state
- 00:12:19because you don't like the result do you
- 00:12:21believe that the election results in
- 00:12:22Venezuela were accurate I'm not
- 00:12:24Venezuelan I don't care about the
- 00:12:26results in Venezuela but we had ways to
- 00:12:28challenge the results in the United
- 00:12:29States breaking the law and having the
- 00:12:30vice president choose you to be the
- 00:12:32president again surely you can see the
- 00:12:34conflict of interests there right the
- 00:12:36guy that is President right now is
- 00:12:37saying that the election was rigged when
- 00:12:39he's running for election again I mean
- 00:12:41like how why would we trust this person
- 00:12:42who lost in every other Forum in 2016
- 00:12:45Democrats believe that the elections
- 00:12:47were rigged Hillary but Hillary what
- 00:12:49what's the difference though in 2016
- 00:12:50Hillary conceded that night Donald Trump
- 00:12:52said stop the count and tried to win the
- 00:12:54election early did Hillary really
- 00:12:56concede or did they she conceded
- 00:12:59continue to undermine behind the scenes
- 00:13:02Donald Trump's presidency continue to
- 00:13:04delegitimize it continue to to go after
- 00:13:07him numerous times over and over after
- 00:13:092016 people however you want what is
- 00:13:11what could be less Democratic than
- 00:13:13Donald Trump telling Pence I want you to
- 00:13:15make me the president again I'm not
- 00:13:16happy with these Court results I'm not
- 00:13:17happy with what's going on I need you to
- 00:13:19choose me again to be president I don't
- 00:13:21think that's actually a clear
- 00:13:23characterization of what really happened
- 00:13:25it's it is absolutely what happened it
- 00:13:27is from your perspective from the
- 00:13:29perspective of every single person
- 00:13:31involved that's why Eastman after it
- 00:13:32failed was emailing juliani saying like
- 00:13:34hey you remember that pardon list I
- 00:13:36think I do need to be stuck on that I
- 00:13:37think I'm going to need some pardons
- 00:13:38preemptively just in case this is why
- 00:13:40juliani and Sydney pal are being sued
- 00:13:41it's why they've admitted that they lied
- 00:13:42about the voter fraud it's why a lot of
- 00:13:44them are being disbarred now yes this
- 00:13:45all happened very public record very
- 00:13:47open testimonies under oath yes all of
- 00:13:49this happened so do you agree that
- 00:13:51Donald Trump telling the vice president
- 00:13:53can you make me president again that's
- 00:13:54like the least Democratic thing you
- 00:13:55could ever do in a democracy I think
- 00:13:58that if you think that the election was
- 00:13:59rigged I think that it is your
- 00:14:01responsibility to protect democracy so
- 00:14:03you think that Donald Trump should have
- 00:14:04tried to steal the election if he thinks
- 00:14:05that the if
- 00:14:07the forgive me I just wanna I want to
- 00:14:10give you a chance to each of you to get
- 00:14:12any last thoughts on this but then I
- 00:14:14want to redirect us back to Kamala
- 00:14:16Harris per se okay okay yeah I just
- 00:14:19think when we talk about democracies uh
- 00:14:21the Democratic party or the Republican
- 00:14:23Party could literally right now say oh
- 00:14:24here's my candidate we're going to put
- 00:14:25this guy forward and then you guys can
- 00:14:26vote for them or not in the general
- 00:14:27election uh both have a right to do that
- 00:14:29they're private parties they can do
- 00:14:31whatever they want basically um the idea
- 00:14:33that kamla Harris who was the vice
- 00:14:34president who was on the ticket uh that
- 00:14:36delegates switch from Biden to Comm
- 00:14:37Harris is somehow anti-democratic you
- 00:14:39don't have to vote for them in the
- 00:14:40general if you don't want to nobody's
- 00:14:41forcing you to do that but somehow
- 00:14:43Donald Trump telling the vice president
- 00:14:44hey I need you to just pick me as the
- 00:14:46president I need you to pick me and
- 00:14:47ignore you know the will of the actual
- 00:14:49voters of the American population and
- 00:14:50just pick me to be the president again
- 00:14:52because I'm not happy with the results
- 00:14:53of the last election that is the least
- 00:14:54Democratic thing you could ever do in a
- 00:14:55democracy I think it was to delay the to
- 00:14:58delay in order to allow for More
- 00:15:01Counting I don't think it was just
- 00:15:03install me as president again and anoint
- 00:15:05me as president instead was a tactic to
- 00:15:08delay in order for the challenges to go
- 00:15:10through the course the challenges had
- 00:15:11gone through and they had all lost all
- 00:15:1264 cases were resolved by then they had
- 00:15:14nothing live everything was dead it was
- 00:15:16completely gone that's why they wanted
- 00:15:17him to just choose him to be president
- 00:15:19again uh during the January 6 counting
- 00:15:22ceremony forgive me Kim I'm sure you got
- 00:15:24a round in the chamber ready to fire but
- 00:15:26I do want to just redirect us just back
- 00:15:28to Kamal Harris per
- 00:15:31se okay so regarding kamla Harris um it
- 00:15:35is an undemocratic process to anoint the
- 00:15:38next person even if the Democratic party
- 00:15:40is allowed to do this because they are a
- 00:15:42private company I understand that the
- 00:15:44courts have uh ruled in that way doesn't
- 00:15:47that shouldn't that bother you if you
- 00:15:49are somebody who actually wants to
- 00:15:51protect democracy it doesn't matter if
- 00:15:53these are private companies if these are
- 00:15:55private private corporations they're
- 00:15:56supposed to be championing and stand for
- 00:15:59democracy and in fact that is something
- 00:16:00that the Democratic party claims that
- 00:16:02they are holding the torch for is
- 00:16:05democracy yet what they do is they
- 00:16:07completely undermine the voters kamla
- 00:16:09Harris has the lowest rating ever of any
- 00:16:13vice president in the history of this
- 00:16:14country and yet they anointed her as
- 00:16:16vice president without even an Open
- 00:16:18Primary they didn't have an Open Primary
- 00:16:20nor did they have an open convention
- 00:16:23that would have allowed at least the
- 00:16:25electors to vote for other people they
- 00:16:27didn't even allow that they just said
- 00:16:29KLA Harris is our person this is the
- 00:16:31person you're going to have to vote for
- 00:16:33and they didn't give you a choice that
- 00:16:35is completely against
- 00:16:38democracy there I have a choice I can
- 00:16:40vote for whoever I want in the general
- 00:16:41election so you're completely wrong
- 00:16:43there uh the goal of the party is to put
- 00:16:45forth a candidate that is the most
- 00:16:46likely to win the election I think that
- 00:16:48the Democratic party choosing the person
- 00:16:50who is on the ticket that won more votes
- 00:16:52in any presidential election in all of
- 00:16:54history is probably better than trying
- 00:16:55to have an Open Primary and having us
- 00:16:57devolve into a crazy you know [ __ ] show
- 00:16:59for a month trying to figure out who the
- 00:17:01next candidate is going to be I think
- 00:17:02the DNC choosing Harris probably gives
- 00:17:03him the best chance to win in the
- 00:17:04general and I'll be voting for Harris
- 00:17:06because she was part of the ticket that
- 00:17:07all the other Democrats voted for on the
- 00:17:09last election uh if you're not happy
- 00:17:10with that or if you don't like that
- 00:17:11that's fine but it's not anti-democratic
- 00:17:13because nobody is forcing you to vote
- 00:17:15that ticket if you want vote for
- 00:17:16somebody else or just don't vote at all
- 00:17:17or have a protest Vote or whatever and
- 00:17:19the DNC would probably never do that
- 00:17:20again uh the idea that the idea that it
- 00:17:23was anti-democratic for the DNC to pick
- 00:17:24the path that they wanted to put forth
- 00:17:26who they felt was the best candidate
- 00:17:27which traditionally they do with the
- 00:17:28delegate process or an Open Primary uh
- 00:17:30but this time because of extenuating
- 00:17:32circumstances they just went with the
- 00:17:33vice president who was already on the
- 00:17:34ticket I think to call that
- 00:17:35anti-democratic a silly there's nothing
- 00:17:36anti-democratic about that nobody's
- 00:17:37forcing you to vote for a comma in the
- 00:17:39general election well how are you how
- 00:17:41else are you going to vote who would you
- 00:17:43vote for then who are your options I
- 00:17:45could I could not vote I could vote for
- 00:17:47Trump I could vote for what Jill Stein
- 00:17:48or the libertarian candidate you vote
- 00:17:49for whoever you want to vote for it's
- 00:17:50the United States of America so you
- 00:17:53don't think that the party that is
- 00:17:54saying we are the party for democracy
- 00:17:57and then completely subverting that
- 00:17:58democracy
- 00:17:59and not even listening to the will of
- 00:18:01the democratic voters and instead just
- 00:18:02giving them Force feeding them a
- 00:18:04candidate you think that that is fine
- 00:18:06that that's de democ Dem standing for de
- 00:18:08democracy is not what you do inside of a
- 00:18:11company democracy is not what happens in
- 00:18:13the in the McDonald's manager's office
- 00:18:15democracy is what we do to protect the
- 00:18:17institutions of the United States of
- 00:18:18America while we're expressing our will
- 00:18:20through the structures of our government
- 00:18:21the Democratic party as a private party
- 00:18:23their goal is to put up the candidate
- 00:18:25that they think can win best when the
- 00:18:26Democratic party talks about protecting
- 00:18:29they're not talking about the internal
- 00:18:30primary process or how they uh you know
- 00:18:33put delegates to different candidates
- 00:18:35they're talking about defending
- 00:18:36democracy in the United States of
- 00:18:37America as part of the US government so
- 00:18:39their goal should be to put up the
- 00:18:40strongest candidate there aren't a ton
- 00:18:42of people in the Democratic party that
- 00:18:43hate kamla Harris and are mad that they
- 00:18:44put her up there are some extreme people
- 00:18:46or there are some Outsiders that are
- 00:18:47trying to say that it should be
- 00:18:48different but KL was part of the most
- 00:18:50winning ticket in all of uh presidential
- 00:18:52history if anything I think I'd be more
- 00:18:54upset if I was a Republican and I saw
- 00:18:55that Donald Trump didn't even debate the
- 00:18:57other Republican candidates because he
- 00:18:58was so scared of of now as we've seen
- 00:19:00being exposed as a as a delusional
- 00:19:03insane old man that can't even you know
- 00:19:05hold his composure on stage Donald Trump
- 00:19:06didn't have a single debate with Haley
- 00:19:08or with Des santz uh and you're going to
- 00:19:09say that that process was somehow more
- 00:19:11uh more democratic like no they're
- 00:19:13private parties but the Republican Party
- 00:19:14can choose their nominee however they
- 00:19:15want as well I don't care it's they they
- 00:19:18decided to actually listen to voters
- 00:19:19that's how they did it they decided to
- 00:19:21let people vote and decide Nikki Haley
- 00:19:23put up a fierce campaign so did Ronda
- 00:19:25Santa so did many others and ultimately
- 00:19:27the voters decided that they didn't want
- 00:19:29they didn't care to hear a debate
- 00:19:31between Donald Trump or Ronda santis or
- 00:19:32Donald Trump and Nikki Haley the voters
- 00:19:35decided not the top down Elites sitting
- 00:19:37in a back room deciding who was going to
- 00:19:39be their best candidate they didn't
- 00:19:41really want Donald Trump there was a lot
- 00:19:43of internal chatter inside of the
- 00:19:44Republican party not really wanting
- 00:19:45Donald Trump But ultimately they did
- 00:19:47allow the voters to decide so you're
- 00:19:49saying that in order to protect
- 00:19:51democracy it is so what so you're saying
- 00:19:53in order to protect democracy it is
- 00:19:56totally fine to not all
- 00:19:59the Democratic process with the people
- 00:20:01in order to protect democracy so then in
- 00:20:03what in your mind is democracy it's not
- 00:20:06how private parties put forth their
- 00:20:08candidate what's democracy democracy is
- 00:20:12a very broad idea that expresses
- 00:20:13different forms of government that
- 00:20:14usually involve some form of the
- 00:20:16population voting and in the unit what
- 00:20:18would they vote on we could vote on a
- 00:20:20presidential uh candidate we could vote
- 00:20:22on legislators and lawmakers we could
- 00:20:23vote on city council people we could do
- 00:20:25direct referendums to vote for policies
- 00:20:27I mean so is it a democracy if let's say
- 00:20:30both parties just decide that they're
- 00:20:32going to nominate the same exact
- 00:20:33candidate and we're all going to have
- 00:20:35one choice and they have the freedom to
- 00:20:37do that because they're both corporate
- 00:20:38private entities so let's say they
- 00:20:40decide that they're both going to put
- 00:20:41forward their their their person and
- 00:20:45that's who we get to choose and there's
- 00:20:47nobody else on the ticket is it
- 00:20:49democracy just because we have we do get
- 00:20:51to go through the process of casting to
- 00:20:52vote for the one person that's available
- 00:20:54to us other people could run for
- 00:20:56president nobody's forcing you to vote
- 00:20:58for that candidate you could do wrin you
- 00:20:59could vote for another person you don't
- 00:21:00have to vote for who the two major
- 00:21:01parties
- 00:21:04nominate you understand that how private
- 00:21:06companies do things is it has nothing to
- 00:21:08do with democracy right like the DNC
- 00:21:10could say we're we're going to do a
- 00:21:12survey across the United States of
- 00:21:13America and we're going to make the
- 00:21:14tallest person in America our candidate
- 00:21:16that would have no impact on our
- 00:21:17democracy I imagine a lot of people
- 00:21:19would be upset I probably just wouldn't
- 00:21:20vote for the Democratic ticket and I'm
- 00:21:21sure another party would arise if we
- 00:21:23believe in free market capitalism and
- 00:21:24freedom and all that I'm sure another
- 00:21:26party would come up and they would offer
- 00:21:27a better candidate that is no impact on
- 00:21:28our democracy nobody's voicing me to put
- 00:21:30this person in government this is just
- 00:21:31the candidate they're putting up and
- 00:21:32again I don't think we disagree KLA
- 00:21:34Harris was part of the ticket that got
- 00:21:35more votes than any other presidential
- 00:21:37ticket in the entire history of the
- 00:21:38United States so why would I want them
- 00:21:40to do an Open Primary with a month to go
- 00:21:42and then have the entire party descend
- 00:21:43into chaos without that be more
- 00:21:45democratic to allow a whole bunch of
- 00:21:46people to come in and a whole bunch of
- 00:21:47crazy stuff to happen do would we be
- 00:21:49more unified in one month afterwards no
- 00:21:51I think the DNC made the correct Choice
- 00:21:52the majority of the democratic voters uh
- 00:21:54seem to think that they made the right
- 00:21:55choice the fact that the Republican
- 00:21:56party is currently in freef fall uh I
- 00:21:58think means most people think the
- 00:21:59Democratic party made the right choice
- 00:22:00so yeah I think it was it was a good
- 00:22:01choice and if you don't like it just
- 00:22:02don't vote for him there has no impact
- 00:22:03on our
- 00:22:05democracy I this is the most bizarre
- 00:22:07argument I gota I mean I just okay I'll
- 00:22:10just let you I'll let you have that one
- 00:22:11because ultimately ultimately I think
- 00:22:13you just argued against yourself this is
- 00:22:15not you just described anti-democratic
- 00:22:17processes and trying to claim that it's
- 00:22:19democracy I don't even know how
- 00:22:21antidemocratic when a supervisor tells
- 00:22:22an employee that they need to clock out
- 00:22:24because they're going to get overtime is
- 00:22:25that anti-democratic companies are not
- 00:22:27democracies
- 00:22:29they can be you have right I agree with
- 00:22:33you I agree with what you just said
- 00:22:34companies are not democracies okay the
- 00:22:36RNC and the DNC are private companies
- 00:22:38that's what that's all they are and I
- 00:22:40agree with you they're not democracies
- 00:22:42they're private companies that should
- 00:22:43not be running as private companies
- 00:22:44especially when one of them in
- 00:22:46particular Champions itself as the as
- 00:22:49the the the torchbearer for democracy so
- 00:22:52what we should pass laws in Congress
- 00:22:53that make the parties part of our what
- 00:22:55Constitution or we we imbue them in law
- 00:22:58someh like what does that even mean I
- 00:23:00actually yeah I think that there should
- 00:23:01be some laws that say that these
- 00:23:03political parties if they are going to
- 00:23:04be political parties putting forth
- 00:23:05political candidates that they do have
- 00:23:07to operate with on the basis of
- 00:23:08democracy that they should not be
- 00:23:10operating on the basis of being a
- 00:23:11private company that even if they are
- 00:23:13private corporations they are still
- 00:23:15participating in a certain Marketplace
- 00:23:17the marketplace of democracy and they
- 00:23:18need to follow Democratic processes in
- 00:23:20order to participate in that Marketplace
- 00:23:22otherwise start a different company be a
- 00:23:24different type of Corporation sell a
- 00:23:25product do you I mean if you want to do
- 00:23:27that that's fine but like we would have
- 00:23:29to change the entire process like
- 00:23:30primaries aren't even really yes
- 00:23:32absolutely what do you think that a
- 00:23:34primary is even that Democratic how many
- 00:23:36people vote in the primaries what like
- 00:23:3710 or 11 million people what's
- 00:23:39Democratic about people campaigning for
- 00:23:41Iowa and New Hampshire because they just
- 00:23:42arbitrarily happen to be the first two
- 00:23:44states you know that are casting theirs
- 00:23:45what's what's Democratic about a caucus
- 00:23:47right a bunch of people standing around
- 00:23:48and raising their hand and doing you
- 00:23:50know A's and n's like come on eyes and a
- 00:23:52like no the idea that the primary
- 00:23:53process is some holy Vanguard of
- 00:23:55democracy um is silly when when it
- 00:23:57historically uh you know over 100 years
- 00:23:59ago I don't think parties had primaries
- 00:24:01for candidates they literally just put a
- 00:24:02candidate forward and we were closer in
- 00:24:03time then to our founding fathers than
- 00:24:04we are now so this idea that that we're
- 00:24:08less Democratic because of how the
- 00:24:10primary P these are private companies
- 00:24:11they can put forth candidates however
- 00:24:12they want if you don't like it don't
- 00:24:13vote for it so okay I mean it's it's uh
- 00:24:17if you're going to participate in a
- 00:24:18democracy this is kind of like the
- 00:24:20argument about um when certain companies
- 00:24:23don't want to give services to certain
- 00:24:24groups of people they don't like gays
- 00:24:26for example so they don't want to sell
- 00:24:27services Gaye what the Supreme Court
- 00:24:30decides is if you're going to have an
- 00:24:31open business to the public you have to
- 00:24:33serve the public that is you can't just
- 00:24:35decide just because you're a private
- 00:24:37company that you're going to do things
- 00:24:38your way there are certain rules to the
- 00:24:40game there's got to be rules to the
- 00:24:42Democratic game if you're going to
- 00:24:43participate and make a corporation
- 00:24:45that's going to be under that's going to
- 00:24:46be uh participating in the marketplace
- 00:24:48of democracy then you need to be
- 00:24:51Democratic in the way that you operate
- 00:24:53you can close your primaries to only
- 00:24:55those who are registered voters but you
- 00:24:57should be but typically what they're
- 00:25:00supposed to be doing and what we think
- 00:25:02they're supposed to do but of course the
- 00:25:04legalities are a little bit different is
- 00:25:05they are supposed to have primaries in
- 00:25:06each state or caucuses and people are
- 00:25:09allowed if they're es especially
- 00:25:11registered for those parties to vote in
- 00:25:13those primaries of course the state
- 00:25:14doesn't really have to do that they
- 00:25:16can't I mean the the the uh the parties
- 00:25:18don't really have to do that they can as
- 00:25:20you mentioned they are private companies
- 00:25:22but just because they can get away with
- 00:25:24these types of things does not mean that
- 00:25:25we should allow it or uh or or condone
- 00:25:29it in any way or say this is fine we're
- 00:25:31okay with it we should never be okay
- 00:25:33with the lack of
- 00:25:35democracy when you say we should never
- 00:25:37be okay with this so then for the like
- 00:25:39for the wait wait wait wait real quick
- 00:25:40for the 150 years or whatever that this
- 00:25:41country didn't have primaries then were
- 00:25:43we not have democracy then we just
- 00:25:44became a democracy like a few decades
- 00:25:46ago or whatever like what what this this
- 00:25:48argument is nonsense I like primaries
- 00:25:50have nothing to do with whether or not
- 00:25:52you are a democracy how how you serve
- 00:25:53the public has nothing to do with
- 00:25:55whether or not a company is a democ like
- 00:25:56this just it's a just this argument is
- 00:25:58disconnected at every single level a
- 00:26:00party can for the candidate however they
- 00:26:01want yeah on this particular topic I
- 00:26:04want to give Kim the last word and then
- 00:26:06I do want to examine someone in the chat
- 00:26:07said hey we really want to hear what you
- 00:26:08guys both think on Camala in the economy
- 00:26:11particularly go ahead Kim okay uh I
- 00:26:14don't know what democracy is then if
- 00:26:16democracy doesn't involve Grassroots
- 00:26:19people voting for what they want to vote
- 00:26:20for getting the candidates in that they
- 00:26:22want to represent them getting the
- 00:26:24policies in that they want to represent
- 00:26:26them that to me is democracy and I think
- 00:26:28that's the definition to most people so
- 00:26:31to say that well it doesn't really
- 00:26:32matter the democracy is you have the
- 00:26:35right to vote you could just vote for
- 00:26:37you could write somebody in who you know
- 00:26:39will never ever win uh and and they've
- 00:26:41just anointed a person is completely
- 00:26:43antithetical to democracy I want to jump
- 00:26:46into this Cala would Harris be a benefit
- 00:26:49for the economy would this be maybe the
- 00:26:52economy would just be sustained in other
- 00:26:54words maintained at where it is or would
- 00:26:55become worse what do you guys think
- 00:26:59um I think that it's hard to predict
- 00:27:01what a trump economy would look like
- 00:27:02because Trump has given basically no
- 00:27:04policy positions whatsoever um even
- 00:27:07though Kamala is a bit to the left of me
- 00:27:08I trust her on the economy more because
- 00:27:10I think that Democrats tend to hold
- 00:27:11their own accountable I think that
- 00:27:13Democrats tend to put a little bit more
- 00:27:14restraint if a candidate suggest
- 00:27:15something crazy but Republicans are
- 00:27:17completely and totally unable to hold
- 00:27:18Trump accountable because the entire
- 00:27:19party is obsessed with Donald Trump so
- 00:27:21if Donald Trump says something insane
- 00:27:23like he wants to put 10 or 20% tariffs
- 00:27:25on every Import in the world uh the
- 00:27:26entire Republican party is absolutely
- 00:27:28silent on it because nobody can say
- 00:27:30anything to counteract anything he says
- 00:27:31because you know so Donald Trump is
- 00:27:32going to try to bully them out of office
- 00:27:33and turn them into a rhino and destroy
- 00:27:34their career uh so I definitely trust
- 00:27:37the Democrats more on economic policy
- 00:27:38right now because Donald Trump is insane
- 00:27:40I don't even know if he knows what a
- 00:27:41tariff is and I haven't heard anything
- 00:27:42very compelling from Donald Trump when
- 00:27:43it comes to Economic
- 00:27:45Policy I think we just look at where we
- 00:27:48are right now as a as an economy we're
- 00:27:50just definitely worse off we have much
- 00:27:52higher inflation under Biden it has
- 00:27:54reached a peak of
- 00:27:559% um under Donald Trump I believe that
- 00:27:58the average inflation was about 1.8 so
- 00:28:01it's a lot lower um we look at
- 00:28:03unemployment and jobs um we can't the
- 00:28:07covid pandemic we can't really count
- 00:28:09that in it's unfair to say how many jobs
- 00:28:11were lost during the pandemic and then
- 00:28:13how many jobs were regained but now
- 00:28:14we've leveled out we can look at where
- 00:28:16we're at today in 2024 or even in 2023
- 00:28:20comparatively to under Donald Trump in
- 00:28:222018 and 2019 and I think there's no
- 00:28:24doubt that we are worse off economically
- 00:28:27um by all all measurements today than we
- 00:28:30were in 2018 or
- 00:28:322019 yeah there's this unfortunate
- 00:28:34reality that every time a Democrat comes
- 00:28:36in office we basically have to clean up
- 00:28:37the insane disaster Left To Us by the
- 00:28:39last Republican president uh when it was
- 00:28:41Obama it was having to clean up the
- 00:28:42disaster of the 2008 financial crisis
- 00:28:45and when it was Biden it was trying to
- 00:28:46clean up the disastrous response that
- 00:28:47Trump had to covid so is the economy
- 00:28:50worse off now than it was in like 2018 u
- 00:28:53i mean it depends on which indicators or
- 00:28:54which metrics you're looking at there
- 00:28:55are definitely some things that are
- 00:28:56harder inflation was definitely an issue
- 00:28:57relating to co but one thing that I
- 00:28:59noticed was curiously absent from Kim's
- 00:29:02answer here was what is Trump going to
- 00:29:03do about it there were no policy
- 00:29:04positions given there were just
- 00:29:05statements made about the state of the
- 00:29:07economy Donald Trump did massive deficit
- 00:29:09spending that of course would contribute
- 00:29:11to the inflation that we felt a few
- 00:29:12years later Donald Trump slashed taxes
- 00:29:14he cut government revenue and he didn't
- 00:29:16actually decrease any of the government
- 00:29:17spending he ran the highest budget
- 00:29:19deficits for no reason of any president
- 00:29:21in all of history at least Biden could
- 00:29:22say well I was dealing with Co I had to
- 00:29:23do something Trump just ran massive
- 00:29:25deficits because because he wanted to
- 00:29:27because it was the popular thing to do
- 00:29:28when the FED talked about raising rates
- 00:29:29he tried to bully them on Twitter so
- 00:29:31yeah of course anything with a
- 00:29:32government that's willing to just spend
- 00:29:33like crazy and reduce the amount of
- 00:29:35money they take in of course the economy
- 00:29:36is going to be booming but I mean yeah
- 00:29:38what I mean what's yeah if you print a
- 00:29:40ton of money you just give it to people
- 00:29:41for no reason of course the economy is
- 00:29:42going to be booming uh the only what
- 00:29:44what are the policies that Donald Trump
- 00:29:45is suggesting now that would help
- 00:29:47Americans going forward and how and what
- 00:29:49do we think about this tariff idea he
- 00:29:51keeps saying 10% tariffs 20% tariffs on
- 00:29:53everything how is that that just not
- 00:29:54going to boost inflation even more yeah
- 00:29:57I mean I'm not a fan of the Tariff idea
- 00:29:59I don't I don't agreee with Donald Trump
- 00:30:00on that but going back to Harris and
- 00:30:02Harris's policies and whether or not uh
- 00:30:05she has anything that's going to be
- 00:30:06boosting the economy I mean to say that
- 00:30:09the Democrats are here now cleaning up
- 00:30:11Republicans mess it's an odd way to
- 00:30:13clean it up um with record inflation and
- 00:30:16we've got a a record now gig economy so
- 00:30:19people are not able to get full-time
- 00:30:20jobs with benefits they're instead
- 00:30:22having to hustle having two three jobs
- 00:30:24this is an odd way to clean up the mess
- 00:30:27so if this is their idea of cleaning it
- 00:30:29up I think most Americans agree that
- 00:30:31they would like to see some change so
- 00:30:33right maybe Trump uh it's unclear
- 00:30:36exactly what maybe he would do to now
- 00:30:39clean up Democrats mess but I think that
- 00:30:41just the option for Change and
- 00:30:44potentially the ability to lower
- 00:30:46inflation to better the economy to
- 00:30:48better Our Lives people I think are
- 00:30:50willing to take that risk if it if if
- 00:30:54the other if the alternative is more of
- 00:30:55the same yeah I so I'll all I heard was
- 00:30:58there was one Trump policy I've heard of
- 00:31:00called tariffs and I don't like that and
- 00:31:02I don't know what else he would do but
- 00:31:03hopefully it would be better uh yeah
- 00:31:05what I'm saying is that what did K what
- 00:31:07exactly did Biden and Harris do that and
- 00:31:10haris I mean they managed Co decently
- 00:31:12well uh yeah there was inflation but
- 00:31:14there was less inflation in the United
- 00:31:16States compared to you know the oecd
- 00:31:17compared to the G7 compared to like
- 00:31:19every other Western country in the world
- 00:31:20we're doing about better or we're doing
- 00:31:22better than basically everybody else
- 00:31:23right now yeah there was inflation there
- 00:31:24was inflation worldwide Co was a huge
- 00:31:26like worldwide stimulus given every
- 00:31:28single country on the planet so of
- 00:31:29course there's definitely going to be
- 00:31:30inflation felt and Donald Trump didn't
- 00:31:32do anything to help inflation why would
- 00:31:33I think Donald Trump could help
- 00:31:34inflation when he had a booming economy
- 00:31:36and he didn't manage to cut the deficit
- 00:31:38Donald Trump couldn't manage the budget
- 00:31:40when the economy was exploding why would
- 00:31:42I think he could manage the budget when
- 00:31:43the economy is having trouble and now
- 00:31:44you've got the FED actually announcing
- 00:31:46that they're going to be cutting rates
- 00:31:47because inflation has come under control
- 00:31:49so it seems like the administration is
- 00:31:50heading in the right direction why would
- 00:31:52I trust Donald Trump whose only Economic
- 00:31:53Policy he's put forth would increase
- 00:31:55inflation which are tariffs why would I
- 00:31:57trust him to do anything good
- 00:31:58can you articulate like a single policy
- 00:32:00that you think Trump would do that would
- 00:32:01be good for the average American that
- 00:32:02would actually help the economy well I
- 00:32:04can tell you what he wouldn't have done
- 00:32:05that Democrats did do that actually
- 00:32:07crushed our economy that actually
- 00:32:08crushed the economies around the world
- 00:32:09during covid in particular and that was
- 00:32:11government shutdowns that was Democrats
- 00:32:15with their Democratic Governors and that
- 00:32:17they were taking directives from top
- 00:32:18down closing the economy of course when
- 00:32:21you close the economy you're going to
- 00:32:23end up with a lot of ramifications that
- 00:32:25are going to be very damaging to an
- 00:32:27economy and that is not something that
- 00:32:28any Republican or Donald Trump advocated
- 00:32:31for so I could tell you that yes the the
- 00:32:33world economy everything was very bad
- 00:32:36under Biden things have been bad with Co
- 00:32:38I don't know exactly what you think they
- 00:32:40did to clean up covid or to help during
- 00:32:42that crisis when actually all of the
- 00:32:44decisions in particular lockdowns have
- 00:32:47led to massive disaster who do you think
- 00:32:50was the president during the majority of
- 00:32:51the
- 00:32:52lockdowns who do you think actually
- 00:32:54directed The lockdowns the Donald Trump
- 00:32:57the was Donald Trump so Donald Trump was
- 00:32:59the president during the majority elown
- 00:33:01number one number two when you say what
- 00:33:02did the Democrats do I mean we can look
- 00:33:04at a ton of different things they had
- 00:33:05the child tax credit something that Comm
- 00:33:06Harris wants to bring back the child tax
- 00:33:08credit slashed childhood poverty by like
- 00:33:10what 50% 54% it was a huge boost to
- 00:33:13Working Families uh what else did they
- 00:33:15do Biden passed legislation to make
- 00:33:16meaningful change and meaningful
- 00:33:18investments in our ability to
- 00:33:20manufacture microprocessors with the
- 00:33:21chips the ability to reinvest in her
- 00:33:23infrastructure um with the U with the
- 00:33:25infrastructure Bill a bill that Donald
- 00:33:26Trump wanted to get passed but he
- 00:33:27couldn't four years that was here he
- 00:33:28actually managed to pass a bill that
- 00:33:30tried to offset the spending of the bill
- 00:33:32with new tax receipts with the IRA the
- 00:33:34um inflation reduction act I mean I mean
- 00:33:36what didn't they do I mean the Democrats
- 00:33:37tried their best and I think we've seen
- 00:33:39the results of that the United States is
- 00:33:40crushing the rest of the world due to
- 00:33:42actual legislation that I can articulate
- 00:33:44and actual policies that I can
- 00:33:45articulate Donald Trump just rode off of
- 00:33:47an economy that was already booming
- 00:33:49under the last few years of Obama we've
- 00:33:51been posting all-time highs in the S&P
- 00:33:53500 and the Dow Jones for like for what
- 00:33:55since I think 20 uh since like 2013 and
- 00:33:58all Trump did was came in and he spent
- 00:33:59spent spent spent spent more more more
- 00:34:00more more and then bullied the FED when
- 00:34:02they talked about raising rates because
- 00:34:03they were getting worried about
- 00:34:04inflation and then he again you can't
- 00:34:05articulate a single policy or a single
- 00:34:07thing that Donald Trump would do you're
- 00:34:08mad at shutdowns that happened under
- 00:34:10Donald I'm not arguing for Donald Trump
- 00:34:11we're arguing against kamla Harris very
- 00:34:13specifically I am not for Donald Trump
- 00:34:15I'm not voting for Donald Trump let me
- 00:34:16just make that extremely clear so I am
- 00:34:18not arguing on behalf of Donald Trump
- 00:34:20I'm arguing against comma Harris what we
- 00:34:22know is that Democrats have done a very
- 00:34:24piss poor job of actually managing the
- 00:34:26economy we are by every single
- 00:34:28measurement but we're better than every
- 00:34:30other country we came out of coina we
- 00:34:32came out of Co better off than every
- 00:34:34other first world country how are we
- 00:34:37better off we have now given away
- 00:34:38boatloads of cash to Ukraine to Israel
- 00:34:41we're giving away our money we are
- 00:34:43that's a a drop in the bucket compared
- 00:34:45to our budget yearly okay number one
- 00:34:47number two uh how are we better off
- 00:34:49we're crushing them on our job market
- 00:34:51and our economy we're crushing them when
- 00:34:53it comes to inflation the USD is
- 00:34:55probably too shog right now for our
- 00:34:56exports Market what do you mean how are
- 00:34:58we we're crushing them in every way you
- 00:35:00graduate with a computer science degree
- 00:35:01in the United Kingdom and the first
- 00:35:02thing you're trying to do is find a job
- 00:35:03in the united stat you're trying to work
- 00:35:04for Amazon you don't want to get paid
- 00:35:0639,000 quid a year working as a
- 00:35:09programmer in the united kingom what how
- 00:35:10what do you mean how are we doing
- 00:35:11compared to the rest of world how are we
- 00:35:12beating we're beating them in like every
- 00:35:13single conceivable way except for
- 00:35:15domestically we're falling apart because
- 00:35:17of conservatives refusal to accept
- 00:35:18reality I think this conversation is a
- 00:35:19good example of that um yeah I I the
- 00:35:22Harris policies if they continue what
- 00:35:23Biden was doing I think they put us on a
- 00:35:24good track and it'd be cool to see what
- 00:35:26you know Democrats can do when they're
- 00:35:27not just trying to recover from the
- 00:35:28disasters Left To Us by the last
- 00:35:30Republican Administration so you're
- 00:35:32arguing that you really believe that the
- 00:35:34average American is better off today
- 00:35:35than they were under Donald Trump I
- 00:35:37don't know if they're better off today
- 00:35:38than they were under Donald Trump but
- 00:35:39that's because we had covid the question
- 00:35:42isn't whether or not we were better off
- 00:35:43today than we were four years ago
- 00:35:44because we can't go back in time time
- 00:35:46only Moves In One Direction the question
- 00:35:48is is would we have been better off with
- 00:35:49four more years of trump probably not I
- 00:35:51don't think so there's zero indication
- 00:35:53that that's the case and then the
- 00:35:54question would be in the next four years
- 00:35:55are we going to be better off with Trump
- 00:35:56or with Harris and I see no reason there
- 00:35:58wasn't Donald Trump couldn't pass any
- 00:36:00big bills or any legislation even stuff
- 00:36:02he said he wanted to get done he could
- 00:36:03even repeal the ACA so he can control
- 00:36:05any of his spending all he did was spend
- 00:36:06spend spend Donald Trump's just and and
- 00:36:09the major the only major policy platform
- 00:36:10he's talking about are tariffs on
- 00:36:12everything so why would I think Donald
- 00:36:14Trump would be good the stock market is
- 00:36:16posting all-time highs or unemployment
- 00:36:17is still low the FED wants to cut rates
- 00:36:18every economic indicator is looking
- 00:36:20positive like I don't even know what to
- 00:36:21say what what what could Donald Trump
- 00:36:23possibly do what what's wrong with what
- 00:36:24Harris wants to do what's wrong with
- 00:36:27what Harris wants to do is just continue
- 00:36:28where we're at right now which a lot of
- 00:36:29Americans don't want to be in which is
- 00:36:31high inflation inflation has come down
- 00:36:33the FED wants to cut rates why would the
- 00:36:34FED be talking about cutting rates if
- 00:36:35inflation was still too high yeah it's a
- 00:36:37good question why they want to cut rates
- 00:36:39just weeks before an election it's
- 00:36:40really a good question why they would
- 00:36:42suddenly want to do that a record record
- 00:36:44cut to the rates uh is the implication
- 00:36:47that the Federal Reserve is beholden to
- 00:36:49the Democratic party it's it's an
- 00:36:51independent operation of banks what do
- 00:36:52you mean what I I I mean we can do
- 00:36:55establishment well they're they're
- 00:36:56definitely beholding to the
- 00:36:57establishment they're part of the
- 00:36:58establishment and Harris is certainly
- 00:36:59The Establishment candidate compared to
- 00:37:00Donald Trump so I think they would have
- 00:37:02a reason for wanting to maintain an
- 00:37:04establishment candidate in the white
- 00:37:06house um but when it comes to K hold on
- 00:37:08to be clear what you're what you are
- 00:37:10just blindly and conspirator suggesting
- 00:37:13you know that's what Donald Trump like
- 00:37:14actually tried to do right your
- 00:37:16implication is that somehow the FED is
- 00:37:17making political decisions you know that
- 00:37:19Donald Trump was trying to force them to
- 00:37:20make political decisions right then when
- 00:37:22Donald Trump took the Twitter and and
- 00:37:23took to the bully pulpit as the
- 00:37:24president he was attacking the FED for
- 00:37:27not for um for talking about raising
- 00:37:29rates uh he was attacking the FED for
- 00:37:30that that's what Donald Trump tried to
- 00:37:32do what you're asserting with zero
- 00:37:33evidence uh that Biden and Comm what do
- 00:37:35you not believe the the inflation rates
- 00:37:37that are being posted you think that's
- 00:37:37all a lie so the Federal Reserve is just
- 00:37:39acting on nothing and nobody in our
- 00:37:40economy can see that or well don't you
- 00:37:43think that it's interesting then if you
- 00:37:44really believe and maybe you're right
- 00:37:46that the FED completely operates
- 00:37:48completely independently from any
- 00:37:49political influence whatsoever the fact
- 00:37:51that they feel like they need to do a
- 00:37:53rate cut this big what does that tell
- 00:37:55you things are not this is a very large
- 00:37:58rate cut this is not it this is a large
- 00:38:01rate cut they don't do just half a
- 00:38:02percent a half a point out of nowhere
- 00:38:04they usually do a quarter of a point not
- 00:38:06a half a point that's actually quite a
- 00:38:08large rate cut no for them to be doing
- 00:38:10that right now shows that they believe
- 00:38:12the economy is in Dire Straits under Joe
- 00:38:14Biden and KLA Harris that they have to
- 00:38:16take drastic measures in order to
- 00:38:18correct it no that hold on I'm why are
- 00:38:22they doing it do you think what what are
- 00:38:24the two things that the Federal Reserve
- 00:38:25try to try to manage
- 00:38:28why don't you tell me okay the so you
- 00:38:30don't know okay the Federal Reserve
- 00:38:31tries to balance unemployment and they
- 00:38:33try to balance inflation okay these are
- 00:38:35the two indicators that the Federal
- 00:38:36Reserve looks at to determine how they
- 00:38:38should set rates if inflation is getting
- 00:38:40really really really low then the
- 00:38:41Federal Reserve is going to cut rates
- 00:38:43because we should have some amount of
- 00:38:44inflation to keep the economy healthy
- 00:38:46and moving that's how the Federal
- 00:38:47Reserve makes decisions and then it also
- 00:38:48looks at unemployment if unemployment is
- 00:38:49getting uh you know too high um then
- 00:38:51they might cut rates as it just depends
- 00:38:53like these are the two but but balancing
- 00:38:54out unemployment and inflation are the
- 00:38:56two that's the mission statement of the
- 00:38:57the Federal Reserve how could you accuse
- 00:38:59you know the Federal Reserve of acting
- 00:39:01in a politically partisan way you don't
- 00:39:02even know what the mission of the
- 00:39:02Federal Reserve is you're just you're
- 00:39:04just saying random things dropping that
- 00:39:06accusation I'm dropping that accusation
- 00:39:07I'm asking you why did why did they do
- 00:39:09the rate cut because because they feel
- 00:39:10like inflation has come down
- 00:39:11significantly um so they want to boost
- 00:39:13it back up
- 00:39:17yes you think that's exactly why they so
- 00:39:19they did a rate cut because they want
- 00:39:21inflation what do you think the goal
- 00:39:22inflation percentage is you have no idea
- 00:39:24you realize you have no idea you're
- 00:39:25laughing because you think inflation
- 00:39:26should be at 0% ideal inflation is what
- 00:39:28do you think unemployment should be 0%
- 00:39:30yes correct 2% is a target that's
- 00:39:32correct and if they feel like we're UND
- 00:39:33shooting that Target then they try to
- 00:39:35preemptively cut rates or raise rates
- 00:39:36because it takes a little bit for the
- 00:39:38Federal Reserve policy for the federal
- 00:39:39funds rate to actually impact with the
- 00:39:41trading of all the Securities and
- 00:39:42everything isse later on so yes that's
- 00:39:43why they're doing it we can all look at
- 00:39:44the inflation rate we can all look at
- 00:39:45the unemployment these numbers are all
- 00:39:46posted publicly and everybody looks at
- 00:39:48them so I mean so the economy is so
- 00:39:50great so you're just saying the economy
- 00:39:52is great you want to keep it going the
- 00:39:53way that it is I didn't say the economy
- 00:39:54they don't look at the economy they look
- 00:39:56at inflation and look at
- 00:39:58unemployment which are indicators of the
- 00:40:01economy and how healthy the economy is
- 00:40:03they could be they might not be it just
- 00:40:04depends there they are two indicators
- 00:40:07but the the goal of the Federal Reserve
- 00:40:09is not to make the economy good or make
- 00:40:10the economy bad the two indicators that
- 00:40:12they look at are inflation and
- 00:40:14unemployment those are the two things
- 00:40:16that they're yeah but you're arguing
- 00:40:17that you think that the economy under
- 00:40:19kamla Harris and Joe Biden right now is
- 00:40:21great and that we should just continue
- 00:40:22on and that Americans are going to be
- 00:40:24fine give you a chance to respond
- 00:40:26Stephen but then I do want to jump into
- 00:40:27a new topic because we're going to go
- 00:40:29into Q&A about 15 minutes or so sure um
- 00:40:32yes I think obviously I think I can I've
- 00:40:35articulated policy I've articulated
- 00:40:37economic positions I've articulated uh
- 00:40:39how the economy has rebounded under Co
- 00:40:41I've articulated that the United States
- 00:40:43is ahead of the rest of the oecd um yeah
- 00:40:46every indicator points to the fact that
- 00:40:47this Administration did a phenomenal job
- 00:40:49coming out of covid for sure and the
- 00:40:51major complaint that you had the two
- 00:40:53major complaints I would guess would be
- 00:40:54like massive deficit spending and then
- 00:40:56the one that you are taking ated which
- 00:40:57was lockdowns all happened under Donald
- 00:40:59Trump so yeah I do think that the Harris
- 00:41:01Administration would be superior to
- 00:41:02whatever the Republicans put up want to
- 00:41:04give stepen the last word this time and
- 00:41:06then I want to go into the next topic
- 00:41:07which is Cala On the Border who would be
- 00:41:10better for the Border Kamala or an
- 00:41:12alternative what do you guys
- 00:41:16think uh do you want to go first again
- 00:41:18or you're arguing for Harris right yeah
- 00:41:21Kamala would be better on the border
- 00:41:23because we've already seen Biden and the
- 00:41:24Democrats try to put up a border bill
- 00:41:26that would address a lot of the Border
- 00:41:27problems
- 00:41:27uh this bill was a republican authored
- 00:41:29bill it was by lenford in the Senate
- 00:41:31they tried to put it up and Donald Trump
- 00:41:32wanted the Republicans to vote it down
- 00:41:34because he wanted to keep the Border
- 00:41:35open in order to run an election issue
- 00:41:37so the idea that the idea that the
- 00:41:39Republicans would try to destroy the
- 00:41:41border for politically advantageous
- 00:41:43reasons is the only thing that I need to
- 00:41:45know to say that I would never trust
- 00:41:46these guys with any type of security
- 00:41:48issue because clearly the them winning
- 00:41:50political battles is more important than
- 00:41:52them actually securing the border which
- 00:41:53we might see coming up soon with the
- 00:41:54with the budget but yeah they've had
- 00:41:56four years years so even if there is
- 00:41:58some interference that happens closer to
- 00:42:00an election they've had four years to do
- 00:42:01something about the Border but instead
- 00:42:04their policies have led to a massive
- 00:42:07wave of people coming through the border
- 00:42:09and they have laughed it off they have
- 00:42:11Shrugged off border issues since Donald
- 00:42:13Trump was elected in 2016 they claimed
- 00:42:16it was a conspiracy theory they chose to
- 00:42:19do nothing about it and now it has
- 00:42:21gotten so bad that they've realized that
- 00:42:24their own rhetoric their own policies
- 00:42:26have led to a severe crisis that even
- 00:42:28they can no longer ignore and they're
- 00:42:30now having to finally do something about
- 00:42:32it but part of the Border part of the
- 00:42:34reason why we have this border crisis is
- 00:42:36because Democrats over the last eight
- 00:42:38years refused to do anything about it
- 00:42:40until now it's just so big of an issue
- 00:42:42that even Democratic Governors and
- 00:42:44Mayors are screaming please help
- 00:42:46something is this is this has gone wrong
- 00:42:48and we really have to do something about
- 00:42:50it they let the problem get so bad
- 00:42:52because they were trying to score
- 00:42:53political points all of these years that
- 00:42:55we're now where we're at to where they
- 00:42:56have to actually something about it so I
- 00:42:58think just on the merits kamla Harris
- 00:43:00and Joe Biden but Harris specifically
- 00:43:02going forward as president the fact that
- 00:43:04she ignored these these issues for so
- 00:43:07long claiming that it was just some sort
- 00:43:09of a trump talking point or AA talking
- 00:43:11point to let it get to this bad just
- 00:43:13goes to show that this is not a serious
- 00:43:15person who's really truly looking to
- 00:43:16solve America's problems this is
- 00:43:18somebody who's actually looking to score
- 00:43:19political points the very thing that
- 00:43:21you're actually accusing them the
- 00:43:22Republicans of
- 00:43:24doing uh yeah I I mean that we had four
- 00:43:28years of Donald Trump where's our
- 00:43:29immigration Bill where's our border Bill
- 00:43:31where's the wall Trump did nothing he
- 00:43:33had both house of Congress and Trump did
- 00:43:35absolutely nothing about the Border uh
- 00:43:37you it's funny because Trump says I ran
- 00:43:39on immigration because I you know we had
- 00:43:41problems with the wall that's not true
- 00:43:42even on Trump's own little stupid chart
- 00:43:43that he posts Obama was posting better
- 00:43:45immigration numbers than than he was so
- 00:43:48Obama was doing better than Trump on
- 00:43:49immigration Trump wants to say it's not
- 00:43:50fair to count the last year or two uh
- 00:43:52you know of my administration because Co
- 00:43:53messed everything up but he sure does
- 00:43:54want to take credit for the lowered
- 00:43:56immigration numbers under Co and then
- 00:43:58you saw them start to spike back up even
- 00:43:59though he allowed on his chart for when
- 00:44:01you know he was actually out of office
- 00:44:02they were spiking up um almost to
- 00:44:04alltime highs right before he left
- 00:44:05office so clearly Donald Trump wasn't
- 00:44:07capable of managing anything the border
- 00:44:08and when Democrats did want to pass
- 00:44:09something to manage the issue at the
- 00:44:11border uh the the Republicans blocked it
- 00:44:13it was a it was a good bill it would
- 00:44:14have helped a lot with the Asylum
- 00:44:15process it would have provided more
- 00:44:16funding for Border agents it would have
- 00:44:17provided more funding for Asylum uh
- 00:44:19judges to to process people that were
- 00:44:20here for Asylum claims like everything
- 00:44:21about that bill was good and the
- 00:44:22Republicans blocked it so yeah again
- 00:44:25it's it's like a policy thing like what
- 00:44:27is Donald Trump going to do about the
- 00:44:28border the border and why would I think
- 00:44:29that Donald Trump could do whatever he
- 00:44:31says he's going to do when he can't
- 00:44:32articulate any plans whatsoever and he
- 00:44:34couldn't do it in the four years that he
- 00:44:35was President where is my immigration
- 00:44:36Bill where's my border Bill where's my
- 00:44:38wall for my four years of Donald Trump
- 00:44:40well Democrats blocked all of that
- 00:44:41because theying the Republicans have the
- 00:44:43house and the Senate you can't use ex
- 00:44:45they didn't have enough of a majority
- 00:44:46they didn't have enough of a majority
- 00:44:47and they they need more they needed some
- 00:44:49bipartisan support Democrats instead of
- 00:44:51even taking this situation seriously
- 00:44:53laughed at it scoffed at it mocked it
- 00:44:56claimed it was was some sort of
- 00:44:57political talking point when it was an
- 00:44:58actual real problem and now it's gotten
- 00:45:01so bad that Democrats now want to
- 00:45:02finally do something about it something
- 00:45:03that Republicans have been wanting to do
- 00:45:05for the last eight years and Democrats
- 00:45:06want to pass a bill and then take credit
- 00:45:08for it I don't blame the Republicans for
- 00:45:10wanting for wanting to block that to
- 00:45:12score political points at this juncture
- 00:45:14when they know that this is something
- 00:45:15Democrats have been blocking for the
- 00:45:17last eight years now finally Democrats
- 00:45:19are on board now finally Democrats see
- 00:45:20that there's an actual real problem but
- 00:45:22they only want to do that now that
- 00:45:24Democratic Governors and Mayors have
- 00:45:25been screaming saying we can't handle
- 00:45:27this there's a massive influx and you
- 00:45:29guys have been ignoring it and treating
- 00:45:30it like it's some sort of a racist
- 00:45:32policy to secure the the the southern
- 00:45:35border so you know at the reason why
- 00:45:37Donald Trump was unable to get anything
- 00:45:39through was because Democrats continue
- 00:45:40to use it as a talking point as a
- 00:45:42campaign Point making it about racism
- 00:45:44rather than a real problem and here we
- 00:45:46are today I don't trust Democrats to fix
- 00:45:48something when they have been the ones
- 00:45:50blocking it for the last eight years
- 00:45:52okay well I mean you just gave me every
- 00:45:53reason in the world never to vote for
- 00:45:54Trump on this issue because you just
- 00:45:55admitted that Donald Trump do it without
- 00:45:57a super majority I guess in the house
- 00:45:59and the Senate which he will never have
- 00:46:00so I automatically know that no matter
- 00:46:01what Donald Trump will never be able to
- 00:46:03get anything passed and so then I have
- 00:46:04to look at Harris and I have to look at
- 00:46:06Biden and when Biden and Harris were
- 00:46:07supporting this bill they actually did
- 00:46:09have support in the house and the Senate
- 00:46:11the only reason that it wasn't passed is
- 00:46:12because Donald Trump the cancer rotting
- 00:46:14our country came in from the outside and
- 00:46:15said don't pass this bill I need to be
- 00:46:17able to talk about Haitians eating dogs
- 00:46:18and whatever other nonsense I want to
- 00:46:19make up in order to to actually be able
- 00:46:21to win the next election so it seems
- 00:46:23like there was a bill under the
- 00:46:24Democrats that was ready to pass with
- 00:46:26support from the legisl it just didn't
- 00:46:27because of Donald Trump and under Donald
- 00:46:29Trump there were no bills because Donald
- 00:46:30Trump can't make deals with anybody and
- 00:46:33the fact that he needs a super majority
- 00:46:34in both hals of Congress to pass
- 00:46:35anything is a bigger indictment against
- 00:46:37his leadership than probably anything I
- 00:46:38could have said on my own well I think
- 00:46:40that you just made the argument the same
- 00:46:41exact argument but against the Democrats
- 00:46:43because if Democrats uh if a few
- 00:46:46Democrats a handful of Democrats the
- 00:46:48need for a super majority is what block
- 00:46:50Republicans how pathetic is it that one
- 00:46:52man was able to stop
- 00:46:55Democrats this might be
- 00:46:58yeah sure I why it wasn't one it was one
- 00:47:00man telling all the lawmakers not to
- 00:47:02vote for the yeah it's power there I
- 00:47:04guess he's sitting there wielding his
- 00:47:06power against the Democrats I can't get
- 00:47:07anything done because of Donald Trump
- 00:47:09true that's Colts are very powerful
- 00:47:10their leaders you know have they wield a
- 00:47:12lot of power that is how dictators work
- 00:47:13yes this might be a good opportunity we
- 00:47:16one last topic Harris on crime what are
- 00:47:20your
- 00:47:22thoughts um for for Crime stuff it's
- 00:47:25kind of hard on the Federal because I
- 00:47:27feel like crime is a thing that's
- 00:47:28typically dealt with at the city and
- 00:47:30state level I really don't know how much
- 00:47:32influence uh anybody can have on the
- 00:47:33federal level when it comes to enforcing
- 00:47:36things relating to Crime um I do know
- 00:47:39that you know if I can look at like
- 00:47:40direct actions that people take like the
- 00:47:41mobilization of things like the National
- 00:47:43Guard I know that Donald Trump was in
- 00:47:44charge of the National Guard on January
- 00:47:466th and he decided not to deploy them
- 00:47:47for political reasons uh so I don't know
- 00:47:49why I would trust that guy who will
- 00:47:51allow some crime to happen as long as
- 00:47:52it's advantageous to him uh I I don't
- 00:47:54know if I would ever trust that guy in
- 00:47:55managing anything related to crime crime
- 00:47:57I also don't think I trust Trump on
- 00:47:58anything that he says for Crime because
- 00:47:59I know that for instance when uh walls
- 00:48:01was dealing with uh BLM stuff in his
- 00:48:04State Donald Trump had a lot of nice
- 00:48:06things to say about him but as soon as
- 00:48:06he was running for a president again and
- 00:48:08walls was made the VP pick all of a
- 00:48:10sudden Donald Trump hated everything
- 00:48:11that he did so I don't know if I could
- 00:48:12trust anything on Trump when it comes to
- 00:48:13crime and again I would challenge I'd
- 00:48:15love to hear a single position
- 00:48:17articulated that Donald Trump has talked
- 00:48:18about that would help anything related
- 00:48:19to crime in the United States but again
- 00:48:21I don't know what the president the
- 00:48:22federal like president can do in regards
- 00:48:24to crime
- 00:48:26think that when it looks when we look
- 00:48:28back at just even kamla Harris's record
- 00:48:30on crime as a prosecutor she has a mixed
- 00:48:33Record She Democrats in general have
- 00:48:35been very LAX on crime they have
- 00:48:37advocated for LAX criminal uh policies
- 00:48:41there was a lot of defund the police
- 00:48:43chatter there was a lot of uh you know
- 00:48:46bail out the people that committed crime
- 00:48:48during the black lives matter protests
- 00:48:50and funds that were created uh
- 00:48:52Democratic policies across various
- 00:48:55different states have allowed for
- 00:48:56criminal activity I live in the state of
- 00:48:58California they allow now a certain
- 00:49:00amount of criminal activity to go
- 00:49:02completely um to completely overlooked I
- 00:49:05think I agree that I'm not sure what the
- 00:49:07president can really do I mean the
- 00:49:08president doesn't really even have much
- 00:49:11on like when it comes to tax policies
- 00:49:14for example that has to be done through
- 00:49:15Congress or even the Border policies
- 00:49:17have to be passed by Congress there's
- 00:49:19very little a president themselves can
- 00:49:21actually do without an act of Congress
- 00:49:24but when it comes to Crime these are
- 00:49:26more about I think the policies of the
- 00:49:29the platform of the party and Democrats
- 00:49:32as a party have run on we want to allow
- 00:49:36more criminal activity essentially or
- 00:49:38certain things are not really crimes
- 00:49:39when they really are so I think the
- 00:49:41entire messaging of the democratic party
- 00:49:43which is of course led by now kamla
- 00:49:46Harris is one that is not Tough Enough
- 00:49:48on crime when interestingly kamla Harris
- 00:49:51though has a very mixed record when she
- 00:49:53was a prosecutor she was known for being
- 00:49:54quite tough on crime
- 00:49:57yeah I don't know if I would trust a guy
- 00:49:58who's a 34 convicted felon 34 felon
- 00:50:01convicted felon who the the biggest
- 00:50:03engagement that he has with law
- 00:50:04enforcement is or crime related stuff I
- 00:50:06guess is giving pardons to literally
- 00:50:08every single friend that he has uh who
- 00:50:10has been convicted on crimes uh some
- 00:50:11people that are very very hard to excuse
- 00:50:14his pardons for so yeah I just I
- 00:50:15wouldn't trust Trump on anything related
- 00:50:17to Crime I think people are more
- 00:50:18concerned about actual violent crime and
- 00:50:21theft rather than white collar crime so
- 00:50:23even if what was Occupy Wall Street
- 00:50:26about
- 00:50:27that was something people were obviously
- 00:50:28very concerned about at the time but now
- 00:50:30we're in a different era you're talking
- 00:50:32about another decade uh or 15 years and
- 00:50:35here we are with violent crime rampant
- 00:50:37in the streets we've got people being
- 00:50:38able to steal uh inside you know theft
- 00:50:41up to
- 00:50:42$900 at a local Walgreens is legalized
- 00:50:46so there's a lot of crime happening that
- 00:50:48are really truly affecting people
- 00:50:50they're afraid and it's the defund the
- 00:50:53police movement was very much part of
- 00:50:55the reason why police forces are not
- 00:50:57stacked enough with enough staff to
- 00:50:59handle this rise and violent crime why
- 00:51:00is there violent crime by the way
- 00:51:02because of inflation when the economy
- 00:51:04sucks crime goes
- 00:51:07up uh yeah I I don't even I not even
- 00:51:11sure if um I think like violent crime I
- 00:51:13think is lower now I think than it was
- 00:51:15even at the lowest I'm pretty sure it is
- 00:51:17um I know that for they lied on the
- 00:51:19statistics it's not lower they Li on the
- 00:51:22STA St well if you're only going to
- 00:51:24collect stats from some States from a
- 00:51:26handful of States rather than all of
- 00:51:28them then you can claim that they're
- 00:51:30lower or if you actually change the
- 00:51:31definition of crime and you say that
- 00:51:33stealing up to $900 is not criminal or
- 00:51:36if people are not reporting say stealing
- 00:51:37up to $900 is not criminal are you
- 00:51:39talking about stealing up to $900 is
- 00:51:40counted as a felony or that it was just
- 00:51:42a misdemeanor or that c like are you
- 00:51:44saying that you can just steal I'm
- 00:51:45pretty sure what you're talking about is
- 00:51:46people classifying different amounts of
- 00:51:47theft uh the difference between it being
- 00:51:49a felony and a misdemeanor I don't think
- 00:51:50that it being not a crime at all is is
- 00:51:51real I think you just made that
- 00:51:53up you can look it up here in California
- 00:51:56you can steal up to a certain amount and
- 00:51:58you're not going to even the you if you
- 00:51:59call the cops they're not going to show
- 00:52:01up so it doesn't matter what you these
- 00:52:03are two different things right like
- 00:52:04calling the cops and them not showing up
- 00:52:06or not having enough people to uh you
- 00:52:08know why why are there why aren't there
- 00:52:10enough
- 00:52:11cops I don't know why there aren't
- 00:52:13enough workers for anything right now
- 00:52:15what do you mean we're unemployment is
- 00:52:16incredibly low we're looking for workers
- 00:52:17in literally every single field we also
- 00:52:18don't have enough nurses or doctors had
- 00:52:20something to do with that no because in
- 00:52:22most of the states where they tried
- 00:52:23defund the police it was a [ __ ]
- 00:52:24disaster and they ended up rolling back
- 00:52:25basically all of those policies yeah
- 00:52:27well they can't get those cops back they
- 00:52:29already left so now trying to rehire
- 00:52:30them back has led to a a decrease in the
- 00:52:33police forces they're not going after a
- 00:52:36lot of crimes you call the police you're
- 00:52:39going to be waiting on hold for a couple
- 00:52:40of hours unless it's an active violent
- 00:52:43crime that's happening to you right then
- 00:52:44and there it is a disaster at this point
- 00:52:47so this is how the police have always
- 00:52:49worked yes unfortunately it sucks but if
- 00:52:52you I remember when I had [ __ ] stolen
- 00:52:54from me when I was in [ __ ] high
- 00:52:56school uh yeah if you call the cops like
- 00:52:58unless you're actually getting murdered
- 00:52:59right now the cops will tell you like
- 00:53:00Hey listen uh come down to the station
- 00:53:02we'll file a report and we can take some
- 00:53:03notes on the phone and that's it you're
- 00:53:04never going to hear again if some [ __ ]
- 00:53:05gets stolen from you you're lucky if
- 00:53:06your car gets reported to you maybe if
- 00:53:08it shows up at the right tow yard and
- 00:53:09they run the VIN and they give you a
- 00:53:10call or whatever but yeah cops don't
- 00:53:12have time to investigate every single
- 00:53:13petty crime that ever happens usually
- 00:53:15the priority is going to be responding
- 00:53:16Violet crime but that's always I mean
- 00:53:17would it be nice to increase funding to
- 00:53:19police yeah for sure but I mean cities
- 00:53:20only have so much money uh you know
- 00:53:22there are different motives that are
- 00:53:25pushing people in different ways but the
- 00:53:26a that you know it well we just want to
- 00:53:28make it legal to steal stuff like what
- 00:53:29like what would even be the incentive
- 00:53:30for that like we're going to make it
- 00:53:32legal so people can steal things so that
- 00:53:33we can piss all of our citizens off and
- 00:53:34lose our elections and
- 00:53:36like like did California even do defund
- 00:53:39the police like was that even a huge
- 00:53:40thing like was police was funding for
- 00:53:42police in California ever even a thing
- 00:53:43like the reduction of funding for police
- 00:53:45in California that ever even happened
- 00:53:47yeah I want to give you a chance to
- 00:53:48respond Kim and then we got a have one
- 00:53:50last topic before the Q&A I mean once
- 00:53:52again the messaging of Democrats so it's
- 00:53:55the the messaging of Democrats has been
- 00:53:57looked the other way defund the police
- 00:53:59violent crime is not a real thing
- 00:54:01claiming that violent crime isn't up
- 00:54:03when in fact they're changing the
- 00:54:04definitions and manipulating the
- 00:54:06statistics in order to have it favor
- 00:54:08themselves just like they do when they
- 00:54:09say racism's up uh claims of racism are
- 00:54:13up because they change the definition of
- 00:54:14what is racism in order to collect more
- 00:54:16people as you know the these statistics
- 00:54:20statistics and lies right whatever the
- 00:54:22whatever the the the phrase is but it's
- 00:54:25they've definitely been able to
- 00:54:26manipulate them crime is up and they're
- 00:54:29not doing anything about it Democrats
- 00:54:31have actively campaigned against doing
- 00:54:34anything about it with defund the police
- 00:54:36so most of the stats that I see for a
- 00:54:38violent crime are show that violent
- 00:54:39crime is down now even compared to where
- 00:54:41it was under the Trump Administration
- 00:54:43but I guess we're changing some
- 00:54:43definitions I do think it's interesting
- 00:54:45looking at a PE research poll that shows
- 00:54:47that Republicans are far more concerned
- 00:54:49with crime than Democrats are which is
- 00:54:51interesting to me because I would
- 00:54:52imagine most of the big cities where the
- 00:54:53crime is occurring are where Democrats
- 00:54:54live so I don't know if it's just
- 00:54:55Republican that are you know sitting in
- 00:54:57Suburbia watching TV that think that
- 00:54:59violent crime is a huge issue that
- 00:55:00they're not even experiencing that's
- 00:55:02interesting me that uh from on in 2024
- 00:55:0568% of Republicans think that crime
- 00:55:07should be a top priority as opposed to
- 00:55:0847% of Democrats that are probably more
- 00:55:10likely to live in cities or big crime
- 00:55:12areas so kind of makes me think that
- 00:55:13it's just a talking point coming from
- 00:55:14the radio that people aren't actually
- 00:55:16engaging in reality with at least for
- 00:55:17the Republican side here but again that
- 00:55:18was my central concern at the very
- 00:55:21beginning this might be a good
- 00:55:22opportunity to jump into the Q&A one
- 00:55:25question coming in from Otto is from
- 00:55:28Ukraine say don't you guys think it is
- 00:55:30impressive that you guys started
- 00:55:31realizing the scale of Russian influence
- 00:55:33only now you are 15 years too late this
- 00:55:36might be also an issue in terms of
- 00:55:39Kamala on foreign policy but give each a
- 00:55:42chance to respond to this yeah Russian
- 00:55:44intrusion is obviously a huge problem in
- 00:55:46our country it has been for 10 years but
- 00:55:48again conservatives are literally brain
- 00:55:49broken on this topic and they cannot
- 00:55:51engage with it whatsoever and they would
- 00:55:52rather Screech and scream about the
- 00:55:54hooknose guy running apack than they
- 00:55:55would about ual people in other
- 00:55:57countries that are trying to destroy the
- 00:55:59United States and our ability to have
- 00:56:00any kind of discourse here uh you've
- 00:56:02seen it with Bots that are spread like
- 00:56:03crazy across Twitter um you've seen it
- 00:56:05recently with the indictments that came
- 00:56:06out over ten media you saw it with the
- 00:56:07mher indictments for the internet
- 00:56:08research agency and all of the other
- 00:56:10social media accounts that he exposed U
- 00:56:12yeah we've seen it over and over and
- 00:56:13over and over again but again as soon as
- 00:56:14you bring up Russia people's minds on
- 00:56:16the conservative side you immediately
- 00:56:17you know break in half yeah we spent
- 00:56:19about 32 million on that mher
- 00:56:21investigation that didn't actually
- 00:56:23result in any sort of Russian
- 00:56:24interference or meddling in our
- 00:56:26elections um they instead uncovered
- 00:56:28people that maybe weren't exactly honest
- 00:56:32to Congress so there was some
- 00:56:33obstruction of justice or um lying under
- 00:56:37oath that they ended up getting people
- 00:56:39for but we really haven't actually gone
- 00:56:42and found this massive Russian
- 00:56:44interference in our elections are you
- 00:56:47hold on wait wait wait wait wait do do
- 00:56:49you do you think that any indictments
- 00:56:51came from the Muller investigation like
- 00:56:53I said the indictments that came were
- 00:56:55any of them because of Russian medling
- 00:56:57that there was actual direct Russian who
- 00:56:59who was indicted for Russian medaling
- 00:57:00there were 12 indictments made for
- 00:57:02Russian Nationals that ran a company the
- 00:57:04United States called the internet
- 00:57:05research agency that came from the
- 00:57:06Muller investigations and the Muller
- 00:57:08investigation concluded that they didn't
- 00:57:10really have much of an influence
- 00:57:12no true at all there was any real true
- 00:57:15influence in our elections that's great
- 00:57:18we just make stuff up but hold on to be
- 00:57:19clear wa how much money do we was waste
- 00:57:21on the Hillary email investigation how
- 00:57:23much money do we waste on the Benghazi
- 00:57:24thing how many millions of dollars do we
- 00:57:25just waste on The house's effort to
- 00:57:27impeach Biden and they didn't even do an
- 00:57:29impeachment vote at the end like not
- 00:57:30even close this one from Richie
- 00:57:33Constitution says Destiny why do you
- 00:57:34always talk about Trump I thought this
- 00:57:36debate was about Harris because we it's
- 00:57:39a twers election you're voting for the
- 00:57:41Democrats or the Republicans it's not a
- 00:57:42two person election I want to make that
- 00:57:44very clear I am not voting for either
- 00:57:46Harris or Trump there are other people
- 00:57:48running what other conservative cand
- 00:57:50would you support they don't have I'm
- 00:57:51not a conservative Destiny I'm voting
- 00:57:53for Jill Stein you're voting for okay I
- 00:57:55think that if you support Donald yes I
- 00:57:56think you should you should vote for
- 00:57:57Jill Stein that is an option true
- 00:57:59Antonio inz thanks for your question
- 00:58:02said Kim do you believe the 2020
- 00:58:03election warrant terminating the
- 00:58:05Constitution if so please explain how
- 00:58:07that is not a threat to democracy if not
- 00:58:10why support the candidate who said that
- 00:58:13well for one again I don't support the
- 00:58:14candidate who said that I'm not sure if
- 00:58:17the candidate actually said that or if
- 00:58:18that's an exaggeration of a position um
- 00:58:21of course I do not believe that the
- 00:58:22constitution needs to be terminated
- 00:58:24should be terminated there are there are
- 00:58:27disputes that happen every single day at
- 00:58:29the Supreme Court this the Constitution
- 00:58:32is debated and and it is refined to this
- 00:58:36day through Court rulings so you know
- 00:58:39take it to the courts and that's what
- 00:58:41Donald Trump did and that's fine with me
- 00:58:43anybody could take it to the courts
- 00:58:46ommer thanks for your question said how
- 00:58:47would you grade each major candidate on
- 00:58:49their foreign policy strong or weak
- 00:58:52points of each I suppose we'll uh just
- 00:58:55cover Harris if that's so I suppose if
- 00:58:58you want to cover Stein that
- 00:59:00works but we'll at least cover Harris
- 00:59:03you want is this is this a question for
- 00:59:06me uh this is for both of you so if
- 00:59:08you'd like to go first you're more than
- 00:59:10welcome to um jillin has excellent
- 00:59:12foreign policy I think she's right on
- 00:59:14practically all of the foreign policy
- 00:59:15points that we have um Jill Stein that
- 00:59:18is one of the reasons why I support Jill
- 00:59:20Stein is I think that she is the most
- 00:59:22consistent truly uh somebody that is
- 00:59:26looking at each of the different
- 00:59:28conflicts and saying this is not
- 00:59:29America's problem this is not something
- 00:59:31that we should be involved in kamla
- 00:59:33Harris uh has very much a Hillary
- 00:59:35Clinton foreign policy she actually is
- 00:59:39deviates even from Barack Obama who had
- 00:59:41more of an anti-interventionist in fact
- 00:59:43if you really wanted to compare it
- 00:59:44Donald Trump has a slightly more Barack
- 00:59:47Obama foreign policy than kamla Harris
- 00:59:49does Harris takes a stronger stance and
- 00:59:52she's more in line with Hillary Clinton
- 00:59:53so if you like what Hillary Clinton has
- 00:59:55done if you think that she did an
- 00:59:57excellent job with foreign policy then
- 00:59:59kamla Harris I suppose you would think
- 01:00:02that she's got excellent policy points
- 01:00:05what's a what real quick what's one good
- 01:00:07what is a what is a Jill Stein foreign
- 01:00:08policy Point uh ending the genocide in
- 01:00:12Gaza
- 01:00:13how how by forcing by stopping support
- 01:00:18of Israel Israel is reliant on our
- 01:00:20support in order to continue doing what
- 01:00:21they're doing okay so Israel's not
- 01:00:23relying on our support to continue doing
- 01:00:24what they're doing they can absolutely
- 01:00:25fun M themselves um I think that one of
- 01:00:27the biggest red herrings for basically
- 01:00:29somebody who is a paid foreign asset or
- 01:00:31somebody who just knows nothing about
- 01:00:32foreign policy is usually when they uh
- 01:00:34when they talk about peace a lot in
- 01:00:36their foreign policy plan peace is a
- 01:00:37meaningless word nobody wants peace
- 01:00:40people want Justice it's very easy if
- 01:00:42somebody's invading your village and
- 01:00:43wants to take over your entire country
- 01:00:45or take over your entire city to say oh
- 01:00:46well let's just be peaceful and lay down
- 01:00:48our arms and let them take over
- 01:00:49everything and steal our uh economy and
- 01:00:52Lead our country and dictate to us what
- 01:00:54we ought to do nobody wants peace want
- 01:00:56Justice they want to feel like something
- 01:00:57is happening that is um satisfying the
- 01:01:00desires that they have as a nation as a
- 01:01:01country as they are entitled to in the
- 01:01:03world so when Jill Stein says things
- 01:01:05like I want to defund our military by
- 01:01:07like 75% when she's saying things like I
- 01:01:10want to delete over 700 US foreign
- 01:01:12military bases when she's saying things
- 01:01:14like I want to end all of our
- 01:01:15involvement in every single conflict
- 01:01:16ever what she's actually saying is I
- 01:01:19want to create more room on the planet
- 01:01:20to make the world multi-polar I want
- 01:01:22Russia to be deciding how Russia Ukraine
- 01:01:24ends I don't want the United States
- 01:01:25involvement there I want China to be
- 01:01:27signing deals between Saudi Arabia and
- 01:01:29Iran I don't want the United States to
- 01:01:30be involved there I want all of our
- 01:01:32foreign adversaries to be the ones that
- 01:01:33are dictating policy to the rest of the
- 01:01:35world because remember just because the
- 01:01:36United States steps back from a
- 01:01:37leadership position doesn't mean nobody
- 01:01:38else is going to take their place which
- 01:01:39is exactly what everybody that says
- 01:01:41peace peace peace like Jill Stein wants
- 01:01:42to happen they want other countries to
- 01:01:44be those leaders and not the United
- 01:01:45States for whatever reason any py
- 01:01:48rejoinders him and then we'll go to the
- 01:01:50next question why should the United
- 01:01:51States be controlling the entire world
- 01:01:53we don't even have the majority of the
- 01:01:54population so when go to talk about
- 01:01:57democracy uh why should this nation that
- 01:01:59has 330 million be controlling a planet
- 01:02:01of 8 billion people first of all
- 01:02:04secondly we shouldn't have anything to
- 01:02:06do with these conflicts they're not our
- 01:02:07conflicts these are not our fights if
- 01:02:09Israel can continue to fund itself great
- 01:02:11why does my money need to go to their
- 01:02:12fight then if that's the case then you
- 01:02:14should be advocating to stop sending
- 01:02:16support to Israel if they could take
- 01:02:18care of themselves why are we wasting my
- 01:02:19dollars because I think the United
- 01:02:20States is probably the most moral
- 01:02:22country right now to head the world
- 01:02:24heemy I think that Europe has seen an un
- 01:02:25ented era of Peace under United States
- 01:02:28leadership uh what would be a country
- 01:02:29that would be better than the United
- 01:02:30States to take point on that is it going
- 01:02:32to be Russia who wants to invade and rap
- 01:02:33all their neighboring countries is it
- 01:02:34going to be China who is abusing the
- 01:02:37entire continent of Africa and doesn't
- 01:02:38even give their own population the
- 01:02:39ability to vote in free and fair
- 01:02:41elections what other country besides the
- 01:02:42United States would be best at the Helm
- 01:02:43of the world speaking of Russia this
- 01:02:45might be good opportunity go ahead rayal
- 01:02:49says question for both Debaters is Putin
- 01:02:51a dictator and will you denounce
- 01:02:53Russia's involvement with tenant media
- 01:02:57is Putin a dictator yeah obviously of
- 01:03:01course I mean what's a dictator a
- 01:03:04dictator is somebody that rules without
- 01:03:06having uh themselves able to be
- 01:03:08questioned by their population with free
- 01:03:09and fair elections often times it's
- 01:03:11through a singular party often times
- 01:03:13it's through a top- down authoritarian
- 01:03:14control meaning they don't just control
- 01:03:16the state and the government like Putin
- 01:03:17does they also control large SWS of the
- 01:03:19economy and the population through
- 01:03:20oligarchies which he does and they also
- 01:03:22tend to control the distribution of
- 01:03:23media through organizations like RT
- 01:03:25which does that would be a
- 01:03:27dictator well then you just describe the
- 01:03:29Democratic party I mean which which
- 01:03:31major media organization is the
- 01:03:33Democratic party dictate to dictate
- 01:03:35policy
- 01:03:36to CNN MSNBC all of the LI liberal
- 01:03:40mainstream media Outlets that are taking
- 01:03:42direct talking points speaking in unison
- 01:03:44we see this all the time when they all
- 01:03:45come out saying the same exact thing
- 01:03:47tweeting it all out all in unison like
- 01:03:49they got talking points from the DNC if
- 01:03:51that's possible then why did all of the
- 01:03:53media attack Biden and force him to step
- 01:03:54down if Biden
- 01:03:56that's what they Biden's not the
- 01:03:58dictator it's people behind the people
- 01:04:00are the dictator that's called a
- 01:04:01democracy it's not a democracy whoever
- 01:04:04chose kamla Harris because it certainly
- 01:04:06wasn't the people the voter well we
- 01:04:07actually did when we voted for that
- 01:04:09ticket last time you know if Biden died
- 01:04:10you know that Harris would have also
- 01:04:12just stepped up to be the leader on the
- 01:04:13ticket if Biden died would that have
- 01:04:14been anti-democratic should George Bush
- 01:04:17continue to be president because people
- 01:04:18voted for him once so if they vote for
- 01:04:20him once it's okay to just keep keep
- 01:04:22putting the person in over and over and
- 01:04:24over again I mean that logic fails you
- 01:04:26have to vote every single time that's
- 01:04:28why we have democracy vot in the
- 01:04:29elections in the general elections yes
- 01:04:31we do we vote in the general elections
- 01:04:32and typically yeah your incumbent does
- 01:04:33run again over and over again which is
- 01:04:35what George Bush did yeah that's what
- 01:04:36happens correct of the general wait wait
- 01:04:39wait do we not feel like Putin wait so
- 01:04:40is Putin not a dictator I don't know if
- 01:04:42he's a dictator I'm not Russian I don't
- 01:04:44really
- 01:04:45care it's not my country it's not my
- 01:04:47country I don't deal with it wa wait do
- 01:04:49we not care then what because the United
- 01:04:51States has to oppose like we don't have
- 01:04:53to oppose we don't have to get involved
- 01:04:55with other countries and other elections
- 01:04:57the Russian people are strong people
- 01:04:58they're not children if they want to
- 01:05:00make change they will I don't need them
- 01:05:02to come and make change for me in my
- 01:05:04country and I don't need to go over
- 01:05:05there and make change for them in theirs
- 01:05:06what if they want to go and make changes
- 01:05:07in other countries you don't think the
- 01:05:09United States or anybody else has an
- 01:05:10obligation to help do you think that the
- 01:05:12United States doesn't meddle in other
- 01:05:13countries elections or stage C I have no
- 01:05:16idea what that question was about I'm
- 01:05:18asking if Russia wants to invade its
- 01:05:19neighbors do you not think other
- 01:05:20countries have an obligation to help no
- 01:05:23we don't have an obligation to help
- 01:05:25country can't defend its own borders
- 01:05:26then that's a that's we we can help it's
- 01:05:29not an
- 01:05:30obligation do you think that in wait
- 01:05:32wait wait do you think that in World War
- 01:05:33II do you think the United States should
- 01:05:34have stepped up to fight against Germany
- 01:05:36I think that the United States that's
- 01:05:38such an easy yes or no question should
- 01:05:39we have stepped up to fight against easy
- 01:05:41yes or no question United States have
- 01:05:43stepped up the fight against Germany why
- 01:05:45it's not an easy yes or no question the
- 01:05:47United States decided it was in the
- 01:05:48United States interest after the bombing
- 01:05:49of Pearl Harbor to go into that war
- 01:05:51prior to that point the United States
- 01:05:52did not giving me
- 01:05:56there not been the bombing of Pearl
- 01:05:57Harbor I don't know so we don't even
- 01:05:59know if we should have opposed Nazis
- 01:06:01okay so let's say that you see somebody
- 01:06:02who taking you don't have to oppose the
- 01:06:04Nazis I'm just not saying we need to go
- 01:06:05to war with every single person that we
- 01:06:06oppose I never said go to war with every
- 01:06:08single person we oppose I just asked if
- 01:06:09we should fought have fought in World
- 01:06:10War II against the Nazis they didn't
- 01:06:12bomb us Japan did right maybe we should
- 01:06:13have just gone to war with
- 01:06:15Japan well I mean we largely did but
- 01:06:18then we went into Europe we were begged
- 01:06:20by England to go in and we went in I'm
- 01:06:22not saying look we were helping the
- 01:06:24Soviets beforehand right the only reason
- 01:06:26the Soviets could fight is because of
- 01:06:27Len Le it's because of our our funding
- 01:06:29of the Soviets to Give Them Enough ra
- 01:06:31materials I think it's a really
- 01:06:32important point I think it's kind of
- 01:06:33crazy that we can't say that Putin is a
- 01:06:35dictator or that we can't say that any
- 01:06:36country on the planet should have an
- 01:06:37obligation to help other countries I
- 01:06:39don't think there's an obligation you
- 01:06:40can go in if you feel like you need to
- 01:06:42go in if I was alive during World War II
- 01:06:45I probably would have said yes we need
- 01:06:47to go in but that doesn't make it an
- 01:06:49obligation there's no obligation don't
- 01:06:51you have an obligation to your own
- 01:06:52people to create a better world you have
- 01:06:54an obligation to your own country own
- 01:06:56people let pretend for an instance let's
- 01:06:59say for one second wait let's say we
- 01:07:00don't have a child's view of foreign
- 01:07:01policy what if a country was invading
- 01:07:02Mexico to the South and the country was
- 01:07:03called the kill all people country and
- 01:07:05we saw them about to invade Mexico
- 01:07:07wouldn't it behoove us to help Mexico to
- 01:07:09resist the invasion of the kill all
- 01:07:10people country before they're on our
- 01:07:12border it would probably be in our best
- 01:07:14interest because Mexico's on our border
- 01:07:15so we wouldn't want them coming into a
- 01:07:17nation that's on our border so yes that
- 01:07:18would be something that we would
- 01:07:20probably want to do but again it's not
- 01:07:22an
- 01:07:22obligation I hate to do this Ral has
- 01:07:25another question they say for both
- 01:07:26please explain Trump's platform for the
- 01:07:282024 election not sure why well he has a
- 01:07:31concept of a platform I think we know
- 01:07:32that
- 01:07:34much yeah I mean I don't know I don't
- 01:07:36pay much attention to Trump's platform
- 01:07:38because I'm not voting for Donald Trump
- 01:07:41yeah Evan lockheart says Destiny what
- 01:07:42are your thoughts on the Kamal Harris
- 01:07:44FBI Prosecuting the am I saying this
- 01:07:46right uu movement for having Zoom
- 01:07:49meetings with a Russian because that
- 01:07:51seems completely undemocratic in anti-p
- 01:07:54speech that I can you pronounce it again
- 01:07:56or what was this question yeah
- 01:07:59uru uh Ru uh are you oh the uo so what's
- 01:08:07what was the question about the
- 01:08:09uus you say Destiny what are your
- 01:08:11thoughts on the Kamala Harris FBI
- 01:08:13Prosecuting the uo's movement for having
- 01:08:16Zoom meetings with a Russian because
- 01:08:19that seems completely undemocratic and
- 01:08:21anti-free speech I don't know anything
- 01:08:22about that particular issue so I
- 01:08:24wouldn't be able to speak on it the ruus
- 01:08:26were charged with it's similar to sort
- 01:08:29of what's gone on with tenant media a
- 01:08:31little bit where they were accused of
- 01:08:33being Russian assets essentially funded
- 01:08:35by Russia they went to court uh it was
- 01:08:38the Biden Biden Administration that went
- 01:08:41after them they went to court and they
- 01:08:42actually just won their court case they
- 01:08:44are found to not be Russian assets at
- 01:08:47all got it this one coming in from do
- 01:08:50appreciate it Chase Hatchet says got the
- 01:08:53one Sumer thanks very much says to both
- 01:08:54there's a movement in the far right
- 01:08:56right now with figures like ques Gary
- 01:08:58UPI Destiny's buddy that are disav Trump
- 01:09:01since he's Tamer not pushing as hard on
- 01:09:04Maga issues curious to get your opinions
- 01:09:08on that as left leaning
- 01:09:11people uh I mean if you Court crazy
- 01:09:14racist people uh you're obviously going
- 01:09:15to get crazy racist people as part of
- 01:09:17your movement it's not surprising at all
- 01:09:18to me I don't know what else to
- 01:09:20say I don't know anything about these
- 01:09:22people enough to make any sort of
- 01:09:24characterization about them
- 01:09:26Otto says I wonder if Kim knows that in
- 01:09:28other Democratic countries parties just
- 01:09:30introduce their candidates without
- 01:09:32having
- 01:09:34primaries um I don't compare ourselves
- 01:09:36to other countries I would like to see a
- 01:09:38democracy in my country and that's what
- 01:09:40I advocate
- 01:09:41for this one from George it seems like
- 01:09:44so for this aru group so they were
- 01:09:45convicted of conspiring with a Russian
- 01:09:47agent they were quitted on one charge
- 01:09:48and they were convicted of another so
- 01:09:49they didn't beat everything right I'm
- 01:09:52not 100% certain I I believe that they
- 01:09:54beat their C
- 01:09:56okay they were handed a mixed verdict
- 01:09:57you sounded very certain but it sounds
- 01:09:58like they were actually convicted of
- 01:09:59conspiring the Russian agents U but they
- 01:10:01were acquitted the more serious charge
- 01:10:02would have been which would have been
- 01:10:04acting as agents of a foreign government
- 01:10:05so I'm guessing this is a type of fire
- 01:10:07violation but it wasn't the worst type
- 01:10:08of fire violation yeah so they had some
- 01:10:10contact with Russians well no it doesn't
- 01:10:12sound like they just had some contact
- 01:10:14with Russians I don't think there's a
- 01:10:15federal charge for just having contact
- 01:10:16with Russians there was probably federal
- 01:10:18charges though relating to uh conspiring
- 01:10:20with foreign agents and not making a
- 01:10:22declaration of that t Fara which is the
- 01:10:24law of the United States
- 01:10:25H folks we won't be able to take any
- 01:10:28more questions so do appreciate your
- 01:10:29questions but we want to wrap up by a
- 01:10:30decent time so for sure please no more
- 01:10:32questions George Connelly was I think a
- 01:10:35little bit late to the party uh they uh
- 01:10:37seem to think Kim that you're for Trump
- 01:10:39so they say is Kamala or for Kim is
- 01:10:42Kamala becoming the nominee more or less
- 01:10:44Democratic than Trump's electoral plot
- 01:10:45and attempted Insurrection I think you'd
- 01:10:48probably disavow so Richie Constitution
- 01:10:50says Destiny I don't want to speak for
- 01:10:52you though I want to give you a chance
- 01:10:53if you'd like I just don't I I think
- 01:10:56that if whatever the procedure was that
- 01:10:58Trump was attempting after the 2020
- 01:11:01election going through the courts is the
- 01:11:03proper procedure um if there are other
- 01:11:05constitutional procedures that he was
- 01:11:07using in order to challenge that I think
- 01:11:09that's completely fair so I think it's
- 01:11:12fair for an American to challenge an
- 01:11:14election to be clear Trump wasn't just
- 01:11:16challenging the election he was trying
- 01:11:17to break the law because he lost all of
- 01:11:19his election challenges
- 01:11:21but this one from Jonathan gendler says
- 01:11:24Kim there bur presidential primaries
- 01:11:26before 1912 before
- 01:11:281976 you didn't you did not always need
- 01:11:31them to win them for the party's
- 01:11:33nomination and say uh go ahead yeah the
- 01:11:37the country hasn't always been perfect
- 01:11:39um we've had a lot of dark moments in
- 01:11:40our history that have been highly
- 01:11:42anti-democratic for example slavery or
- 01:11:44saying that blacks were two-thirds of a
- 01:11:46per two fifths of a person um so we have
- 01:11:49evolved we've become more democratic we
- 01:11:51should be becoming more and more
- 01:11:52democratic as time goes on as we become
- 01:11:54a more enlightened
- 01:11:56people you got it space Miner says
- 01:11:58considering an ever increasing Nanny
- 01:12:00State backed by police Powers what would
- 01:12:02the enforcement powers of police look
- 01:12:04like under either
- 01:12:07opponent I think they mean in this case
- 01:12:09Harris or Jill
- 01:12:11Stein what what is the question yeah I'm
- 01:12:14not really sure good question they say
- 01:12:17considering an ever increasing Nanny
- 01:12:19State backed by police power what would
- 01:12:21the enforcement of these Powers look
- 01:12:24like whether be from Harris or from
- 01:12:28Stein I I I don't I don't know which
- 01:12:30Powers they're referring to exactly the
- 01:12:32exec I would say in my conversations
- 01:12:35with Jill Stein she's very much against
- 01:12:37the surveillance State and this labeling
- 01:12:38of
- 01:12:39misinformation um so I would just think
- 01:12:41that under Harris you know we've seen a
- 01:12:43definite under Democrats in general a
- 01:12:46ramping up of these ideas of uh
- 01:12:48surveillance and misinformation and
- 01:12:51flagging people and tagging people so I
- 01:12:54would say that there would be a ramp up
- 01:12:55of that I I think I'm not really sure
- 01:12:58what the question was that's my best
- 01:13:00answer you got it I think that fits it
- 01:13:03tip 35 says Kim thanks for coming on can
- 01:13:05you explain what the three let's see I
- 01:13:08don't know what that danshire says for
- 01:13:11both can you articulate any specific
- 01:13:13Biden Harris policies that were
- 01:13:14detrimental to our
- 01:13:17economy Biden Harris policies
- 01:13:19detrimental to the economy um the
- 01:13:22advocating for lockdowns was the biggest
- 01:13:25detrimental advocating for something I
- 01:13:27don't think it's a policy and they
- 01:13:29happened under Donald Trump so well
- 01:13:32Democrats were advocating for them they
- 01:13:33wanted the lockdowns it was again
- 01:13:35probably talk about Democrats it was
- 01:13:36Harris and Biden well Harris and Biden
- 01:13:39are the heads of the party and they were
- 01:13:41directing the people that were in
- 01:13:43positions of power not only that but
- 01:13:44Biden did
- 01:13:46do affected
- 01:13:48the you don't think that the president
- 01:13:50is the head of the party no who's the
- 01:13:53head of the party it would be the chair
- 01:13:55the DNC or the chair of the RNC remember
- 01:13:56if the president was the head of the
- 01:13:58party then who would have you already
- 01:13:59admitted this when you said that Biden
- 01:14:00was made to step down by the actual
- 01:14:02Party heads right so even you don't age
- 01:14:04with this the powers that were behind
- 01:14:06Biden yeah he's supposed to be the party
- 01:14:08head that is the way it's supposed to be
- 01:14:10set up but they clearly have mechanisms
- 01:14:13to undermine that so then clearly he's
- 01:14:15not the head of the party and when and
- 01:14:16when the lockdowns were happening Biden
- 01:14:18wasn't president so he definitely wasn't
- 01:14:19the head of the party then even if we do
- 01:14:21say the president's head of the party so
- 01:14:23yeah also does a green even have open
- 01:14:26primaries or do they not sure hold on if
- 01:14:29primaries are like the one of the most
- 01:14:30important ideas of a democracy to you
- 01:14:32now which for some reason is incredibly
- 01:14:34important I don't even know I don't
- 01:14:35think they have open primaries and
- 01:14:36that's a state-by-state thing anyway I
- 01:14:38think they no it's not state-by-state
- 01:14:39it's a private organization an Open
- 01:14:40Primary is state by state primaries can
- 01:14:42be held however you want them to be it's
- 01:14:44state by state each state decides each
- 01:14:47state each party decides within each
- 01:14:49state they're going to do their
- 01:14:50primaries you have to register for the
- 01:14:53party in order to in order order to vote
- 01:14:55in that party some states allow you to
- 01:14:57vote in the primaries without
- 01:14:59registering that's an Open Primary
- 01:15:02States might change how you register for
- 01:15:03how you vote but how a primary is run is
- 01:15:06decided by the party that's why for
- 01:15:07instance like Nebraska could say by each
- 01:15:09state each state decides that's why some
- 01:15:11states have caucuses some states have
- 01:15:13primaries some force you to register as
- 01:15:16a member of that party in order for you
- 01:15:17to vote in their primary some states
- 01:15:19don't you just Florida said if Florida
- 01:15:22said we're going to change it so that
- 01:15:23we're actually going to be the first
- 01:15:24party uh in the next primary cycle
- 01:15:25instead of Iowa would Florida be allowed
- 01:15:27to do that Florida is not allowed to
- 01:15:30dictate the elections in Iowa no not
- 01:15:32even Democratic part not the elections
- 01:15:34let's say Florida says we know when the
- 01:15:35Iowa caucuses are we're going to hold
- 01:15:37our primaries before Iowa do you think
- 01:15:38Florida would be allowed to do that yeah
- 01:15:40Florida can do that if they want to do
- 01:15:42that because because what happens is
- 01:15:43both parties say okay well we're not
- 01:15:44going to count your primary votes that's
- 01:15:46what would happen well they could say
- 01:15:47that but that doesn't mean that the
- 01:15:48state can't actually hold that primary
- 01:15:50they certainly can this was from the
- 01:15:52Democratic party Democrats just had this
- 01:15:55I'm sorry but this I don't think you
- 01:15:57understand that these are private
- 01:15:58parties I think you think that these are
- 01:15:59like part of the government I understand
- 01:16:00that they're private parties but the
- 01:16:02states decide so when New Hampshire
- 01:16:03decided that they were going to hold
- 01:16:04their primary when they wanted to hold
- 01:16:06their primary that was challenged and
- 01:16:09the New Hampshire primary the New
- 01:16:10Hampshire Constitution says that they go
- 01:16:13before a certain number of states and
- 01:16:14when Democrats wanted to make that
- 01:16:15change Democrats did not get to
- 01:16:17unilaterally make that change in north
- 01:16:19in uh New Hampshire they actually had to
- 01:16:21contest it with them in court because
- 01:16:23this is this is the agreement the part
- 01:16:24parties have with with the states but if
- 01:16:27a state decided that they just don't
- 01:16:28want to participate or they want to do
- 01:16:30they can do that but then a party can
- 01:16:30say okay well we're not going to count
- 01:16:31your primary votes they don't have an
- 01:16:33obligation the delegates um to to listen
- 01:16:35to States otherwise every state would
- 01:16:36want to go first right why why Iowa New
- 01:16:38Hampshire go first sure but it doesn't
- 01:16:40that doesn't change the fact that the
- 01:16:42states decide the state chairs the state
- 01:16:44part branches of the party decide so I'm
- 01:16:47saying with the green party back to the
- 01:16:48point is I'm not sure how they operate
- 01:16:51in every single state I think they just
- 01:16:52do electors I don't think they actually
- 01:16:54have like like primaries where citizens
- 01:16:56vot at all which is interesting to me
- 01:16:57given that that seemed like such an
- 01:16:58important part to you for things to be
- 01:17:00considered democratic and you support
- 01:17:01Jill Stein there were plenty of other
- 01:17:03candidates that ran in the green party I
- 01:17:05interviewed many of them so they did
- 01:17:07actually have Challengers to Jill Stein
- 01:17:09they didn't just anoint her they had
- 01:17:10several other people people voted on
- 01:17:13that well if you're going to say that
- 01:17:14then in that case that was the exact
- 01:17:15same thing that happened in the
- 01:17:15Democratic party there were delegates
- 01:17:17that had pledged for Biden and then
- 01:17:18Biden supported KLA Harris when he
- 01:17:20stepped down and those delegates decided
- 01:17:21to vote for KLA Harris they could vote
- 01:17:22for other people if they want
- 01:17:23to yeah yeah I they didn't really give
- 01:17:26any other options and they pretty much
- 01:17:27told everybody that they had to support
- 01:17:29Harris and that was it they didn't
- 01:17:31delates are allowed to vote for who they
- 01:17:32want to but thank you very much Sumer
- 01:17:34for your question ask what do each of
- 01:17:36you think about the recent assassination
- 01:17:40attempts obviously on
- 01:17:42Trump uh you shouldn't be trying to kill
- 01:17:44people in the United States for our
- 01:17:45political system so probably not good
- 01:17:47don't do that right this one from Leslie
- 01:17:50Lewis says did Trump purposely block the
- 01:17:52right leaning immigration bill that
- 01:17:54Republican have wanted for years yay or
- 01:17:57nay I think we covered that this from
- 01:18:00Dan sh says can you we got that boredom
- 01:18:03says why are that was a right he did he
- 01:18:05did intentionally block that that was
- 01:18:07shot I'm sure just like Democrats
- 01:18:08blocked him previously wait which
- 01:18:10Democrat called wait what was a
- 01:18:12Democratic leader who shot down a bill
- 01:18:14that had the support of both halves of
- 01:18:17Congress that I'm sorry what what
- 01:18:19Democratic leader shot down a bill that
- 01:18:22was that had the support of both halves
- 01:18:23of Congress to pass
- 01:18:25which Bill are you talking about well
- 01:18:27I'm talking about the immigration bill
- 01:18:29that was going to be passed I'm saying
- 01:18:31that Democrats blocked immigration
- 01:18:33blocked border bills previously and the
- 01:18:36issue with this border Bill well sure
- 01:18:37but you're just wrong you're making a
- 01:18:38horrible comparison here there was a
- 01:18:40bill that was ready to go that the
- 01:18:41Republicans and Democrats supported in
- 01:18:43Congress and Donald Trump said no keep
- 01:18:44the Border open I want to win the next
- 01:18:45election so then Republicans apparently
- 01:18:48opposed it because he doesn't have the
- 01:18:49power to just say don't pass this bill
- 01:18:51you can't pass this bill people had to
- 01:18:53actually vote on that right so a bunch
- 01:18:54of Republicans decided to go along with
- 01:18:56what he wanted yes they were that any
- 01:18:58different than what happened when
- 01:18:59Democrats were also blocking any sort of
- 01:19:01Border bills under When Donald Trump was
- 01:19:03President because Democrats not agreeing
- 01:19:05with a bill and not wanting to vote for
- 01:19:06it is different than an independent
- 01:19:07leader like a Hillary Clinton or a
- 01:19:09Barack Obama or uh Biden saying guys
- 01:19:11don't vote on this piece of legislation
- 01:19:13we want how do you know what each how
- 01:19:14each Democrat felt I'm sure that there
- 01:19:15were Democrats that actually did agree
- 01:19:17but they went with the party line
- 01:19:18because we can look and see what they
- 01:19:19say publicly and we have yeah what they
- 01:19:21say publicly is to support the party
- 01:19:23line okay well what they don't say
- 01:19:26supporting the party line is different
- 01:19:27than this leader was telling us that we
- 01:19:29need to change our vote the Republicans
- 01:19:30were on board with the Border Bill
- 01:19:31what's the difference the party line is
- 01:19:33from the leadership the difference is
- 01:19:34that there's a party line that people
- 01:19:36probably believe in and there are
- 01:19:38individual candidates that might put
- 01:19:39themselves over the party or the country
- 01:19:41which is what Donald Trump did the
- 01:19:42Republicans were ready to support a Bill
- 01:19:44in Congress and Donald Trump said don't
- 01:19:45support it I want to win the next
- 01:19:46election Democrats don't do that they
- 01:19:48might support or not support something
- 01:19:49because of what the party tends to
- 01:19:50support because they tend to agree with
- 01:19:51it which is why they're in the party but
- 01:19:53that's different than one leader coming
- 01:19:54out saying hey guys change your vote
- 01:19:55we're not going to go ahead and vote on
- 01:19:56this thing we want to keep it open like
- 01:19:57when a Republicans shut down the
- 01:19:58government or like when they lose their
- 01:19:59speaker seat in the house or any other
- 01:20:01Monumental ways they fail in governing I
- 01:20:04mean I don't know how you think you know
- 01:20:05what everybody in Congress is thinking
- 01:20:07individually well I can just look at
- 01:20:08their public statements and I can see
- 01:20:10the things that they say it's pretty
- 01:20:10easy actually when you live in Dem are
- 01:20:12different okay this one from boredom
- 01:20:15says why are there so many former uh I
- 01:20:18don't know if they're like I said late
- 01:20:19to the party or what they say why are
- 01:20:22there so many former left Wingers
- 01:20:24turning into Rank and file
- 01:20:26Republicans maybe they're in other words
- 01:20:30I think that they know that you're not a
- 01:20:31trump supporter Kim I think they mean
- 01:20:35other people so I think they're trying
- 01:20:37to say that for example RFK is kind of
- 01:20:39falling in line and going what are your
- 01:20:42thoughts like a lot of Democrats are
- 01:20:43switching over to the Republican party I
- 01:20:45mean um I think we're seeing a shakeup
- 01:20:48of the parties and we're seeing a lot of
- 01:20:49people from the right like Dick Cheney
- 01:20:51move to the left I wouldn't say right to
- 01:20:54left I would say say perhaps the parties
- 01:20:56are shifting uh themselves so we've seen
- 01:20:58you know like a lot of the the
- 01:21:01intelligence Community the warmongering
- 01:21:03community the military industrial
- 01:21:04complex the DI chenies of the world
- 01:21:06supporting Democrats and we're seeing
- 01:21:08people who had previously been Kennedy
- 01:21:11Democrats now supporting Republicans I
- 01:21:14think what you're actually seeing is
- 01:21:15just there are some people very far on
- 01:21:16the left who are anti-establishment who
- 01:21:18hate the United States and these people
- 01:21:19find themselves in Easy Company when it
- 01:21:21goes to aligning with people on the very
- 01:21:22far right and then I think that the fact
- 01:21:24that like the H Maga people are
- 01:21:25generally just anti-establishment means
- 01:21:27that it's very easy to get anybody else
- 01:21:28that hates the United States or hates
- 01:21:29the establishment or takes foreign money
- 01:21:31from people like Russia or Iran or China
- 01:21:33uh to all go and join their groups as
- 01:21:35well so I think that it's a pretty easy
- 01:21:36Alliance when you get a bunch of people
- 01:21:37that hate the state hate the government
- 01:21:38hate the institutions and are just in
- 01:21:40general anti-establishment and they I
- 01:21:42don't pretend to know how people are
- 01:21:44thinking or feeling nor do I have any
- 01:21:46desire to insult people how you don't
- 01:21:49know what people are thinking or how do
- 01:21:50you make comments on anything publicly
- 01:21:52I'm not going to sit here and and claim
- 01:21:54that all these people hate America when
- 01:21:55they're participating in the Democratic
- 01:21:57process I'm not going to make those
- 01:21:59types of characterizations or call them
- 01:22:01basket of deplorables or do any sort of
- 01:22:03insulting in my fellow Americans because
- 01:22:04they're participating in democracy and
- 01:22:06they decide that the person that you
- 01:22:08want to vote for is not who they want to
- 01:22:09vote for okay well that's great I will
- 01:22:11call out people who I think take money
- 01:22:12from other countries and they don't
- 01:22:13declare it people like who worked under
- 01:22:14tenant media uh other people that are
- 01:22:16still operating in this media
- 01:22:17environment people like yourself
- 01:22:18probably I think it's worth calling
- 01:22:20those people out when they have other
- 01:22:21kinds of allegiances to other countes
- 01:22:23are you are you making did you just say
- 01:22:25that I'm taking money from any other
- 01:22:27what did you just say probably almost
- 01:22:28Surly yes um and then number two I think
- 01:22:30that it's worth calling out people that
- 01:22:31I feel have anti-American ideas so for
- 01:22:33instance when Donald Trump says he wants
- 01:22:34to destroy the Constitution or suspend
- 01:22:36the Constitution I think that that's
- 01:22:38worth calling out the Constitution
- 01:22:39exists above all three branches you're a
- 01:22:40piece of let me just say it you're a
- 01:22:42piece of sorry you just are to make that
- 01:22:45kind of characterization of me to make a
- 01:22:47claim that you know nothing about I've
- 01:22:48never taken a single dime from any other
- 01:22:50country not even this country I am
- 01:22:52completely independent and for to make
- 01:22:54that sort of characterization that sort
- 01:22:56of slander that sort of slur right here
- 01:22:58in front of everybody you're a piece of
- 01:22:59sh and I speak for a lot of people when
- 01:23:01I say that I'm sure you do and I'm sure
- 01:23:02they're all flying to Moscow right now
- 01:23:04com because we going to this one George
- 01:23:07says does Insurrection count as a
- 01:23:09violent crime or is that excusable so
- 01:23:12they say uh if it's Trump that's doing
- 01:23:14it rather than Harris is it
- 01:23:18okay uh I think Insurrection is always
- 01:23:20bad when you're trying to destroy the
- 01:23:21United States of America but I don't
- 01:23:22know maybe some people just consider
- 01:23:23that democracy or challenging things in
- 01:23:25the courts I guess I don't know I think
- 01:23:28it's perfectly fair to challenge
- 01:23:30elections if that's what people want to
- 01:23:32do people can challenge
- 01:23:34elections this one from I killed Earl
- 01:23:36say for Kim how have Biden and kamala's
- 01:23:39Border policies been a failure when
- 01:23:41they've removed 4.4 what is it 4.4
- 01:23:44million illegal immigrants while Trump
- 01:23:47removed 1.5 million according to
- 01:23:50MPI first of all we've had a lot more
- 01:23:53people coming through the border at this
- 01:23:55point than When Donald Trump was
- 01:23:56President a lot of it had to do with the
- 01:23:58entire Globe shutting down and
- 01:24:00immigration just being low and migration
- 01:24:02being low around the entire Globe during
- 01:24:04a certain period of time but I think
- 01:24:06it's rhetoric and that is one of the
- 01:24:09points that a lot of people were very
- 01:24:10much against Donald Trump if they don't
- 01:24:11like his rhetoric well rhetoric is what
- 01:24:14Democrats were using when they were
- 01:24:16basically saying that border crises were
- 01:24:19not really crisis that this was just
- 01:24:20some sort of a madeup racist talking
- 01:24:23point or political point and they were
- 01:24:25ignoring the border so even if they are
- 01:24:27now scrambling to do something about it
- 01:24:29it doesn't make up for the fact that
- 01:24:31they undermine the issue for a very long
- 01:24:33time yeah the undermining of the issue
- 01:24:35happened when Donald Trump told them not
- 01:24:36to pass a piece of legislation that
- 01:24:38would have helped with the Border Donald
- 01:24:39Trump undermined that more than any
- 01:24:40other person there's a reason why Obama
- 01:24:42and peers loves to say this every time
- 01:24:43somebody his program why Barack Obama
- 01:24:45was called the deporter in-chief uh the
- 01:24:47problem with the Border crises is that a
- 01:24:49lot of them are made up by Republicans
- 01:24:50that's why Donald Trump humiliated
- 01:24:52himself on stage when he was screaming
- 01:24:53like a old man about watching Haitians
- 01:24:56eating dogs on TV and he had no actual
- 01:24:58response to claims that were basically
- 01:24:59fabricated in front of a city council by
- 01:25:01a Neo-Nazi on
- 01:25:03YouTube this from Oni Chan says Destiny
- 01:25:06seriously why are my tax dollars going
- 01:25:08towards a genocide instead of improving
- 01:25:10our
- 01:25:11infrastructure it's not one or the other
- 01:25:13Biden thankfully can fund our foreign
- 01:25:15interests and he can do uh legislation
- 01:25:17to improve our infrastructure at the
- 01:25:19exact same time we can we can walk and
- 01:25:20chew gum at the same time uh whether or
- 01:25:22not we want to support our allies inter
- 01:25:24and what types of things going to fund
- 01:25:25domestically just have to do with the
- 01:25:27types of legislative accomplishments you
- 01:25:28can make in
- 01:25:30Congress this one from George Connelly
- 01:25:32says Kim was Trump's Let's see we got
- 01:25:36James Z says after Pearl Harbor Germany
- 01:25:38declared war on the United States they
- 01:25:40were obliged because they had an
- 01:25:43alliance with
- 01:25:45Japan what was that what is he saying
- 01:25:48they had said after Pearl Harbor Germany
- 01:25:49declared war on the United States they
- 01:25:52were obliged oh I see because they had
- 01:25:54an alliance with Japan well yeah and we
- 01:25:56went to war right I mean we went to but
- 01:25:58it wasn't an the obligation of going to
- 01:26:01there's the obligation is when you are
- 01:26:03attacked your people are attacked right
- 01:26:05then you do go to war that is what
- 01:26:07people do um but the the question was
- 01:26:10whether or not we're obliged to go to
- 01:26:12war on behalf of another country we're
- 01:26:14obliged to go to war on behalf of
- 01:26:16ourselves we can then resolve that war
- 01:26:19or engage in that war however we see fit
- 01:26:21whatever we think is the best way to get
- 01:26:23to the end result that want to get to um
- 01:26:26but we're not my point was we're not
- 01:26:28obliged to go to war we do have
- 01:26:31agreements we have Nat agreements which
- 01:26:33does make us obliged at that time during
- 01:26:35World War II we did not so I wouldn't
- 01:26:37call it an
- 01:26:38obligation there are times that we can
- 01:26:40choose where we think it's in our best
- 01:26:42interest to go to war or we think it's a
- 01:26:44moral interest to go to war or an
- 01:26:46ethical interest to go to war but I
- 01:26:47wouldn't call it an obligation I think
- 01:26:50that if we want to keep trade free and
- 01:26:51open like we have for the entirety of
- 01:26:53the planet I think that if we want to
- 01:26:54keep the world at relative peace which
- 01:26:56it has enjoyed more than it has at any
- 01:26:57other point in history under us
- 01:26:59leadership I think that we have an
- 01:27:00obligation both to the entire world and
- 01:27:02to our own citizens to ensure that that
- 01:27:04peace stays as well as it can with the
- 01:27:06United States at the head of it I don't
- 01:27:07think that a Russia that has invaded
- 01:27:09mdova that has invaded uh Georgia that
- 01:27:12is invading Ukraine uh that deploys its
- 01:27:14paramilitary to the Middle East and to
- 01:27:16Africa I don't think that letting Russia
- 01:27:18control the world is good I don't think
- 01:27:19that letting China uh you know a country
- 01:27:21that is or is not currently maybe
- 01:27:22genociding their weaker citizens that
- 01:27:24has its eyes set on Taiwan I don't think
- 01:27:26letting them control the world be good I
- 01:27:27think that for the most part I think the
- 01:27:28West has largely enjoyed the us being in
- 01:27:30charge of things and I think that most
- 01:27:31of the world probably enjoys for the
- 01:27:33most part the United States being at the
- 01:27:34head of things rather than people like
- 01:27:36Putin or xishan ping this from pondering
- 01:27:39politics and George Connelly have
- 01:27:41basically the exact same question
- 01:27:43coincidentally they had asked for Kim
- 01:27:46they say was Trump's electoral plot and
- 01:27:48attempted Insurrection more or less
- 01:27:50Democratic than the DNC replacing Biden
- 01:27:53with Mala in
- 01:27:56particular um I don't I don't believe
- 01:27:59January 6 was an Insurrection attempt by
- 01:28:01Donald Trump maybe there were people
- 01:28:03inside of j6 that you know you could
- 01:28:05maybe make an argument that there were
- 01:28:07some Sinister individuals who were
- 01:28:08involved in that but I don't think that
- 01:28:10there was some top- down directive that
- 01:28:11came from Donald Trump or anyone in the
- 01:28:13Republican Party um I and as far as how
- 01:28:17can you say that when you said earlier
- 01:28:19you don't know anything about what
- 01:28:20happened you said over and over again
- 01:28:21you I do know I well I know enough to
- 01:28:22know that from the invest vations that
- 01:28:24there was no directive that they found
- 01:28:26coming from the top down that's
- 01:28:28literally he's under indictment right
- 01:28:30now by the federal government by Jack
- 01:28:31Smith how can we say that we know just
- 01:28:33just to hear the rest of from Kim go
- 01:28:35ahead Kim yeah there was no directive
- 01:28:38coming down from the top there's no
- 01:28:39evidence of this whatsoever they can
- 01:28:41make any charge that they want they can
- 01:28:42charge you with anything that they want
- 01:28:44Destiny you can fight that in court the
- 01:28:47Trump will not be Char he will not be
- 01:28:50convicted of of an Insurrection of
- 01:28:52plotting an Insurrection where there's
- 01:28:53no plans or plots that were there so you
- 01:28:56know individuals behaving however
- 01:28:58individuals behave is completely
- 01:29:00different than coming from the top so I
- 01:29:03don't think that there you know that's I
- 01:29:05don't think there was an Insurrection
- 01:29:06coming from the
- 01:29:08top yeah I think it was pretty obvious
- 01:29:09that there was I think that there was a
- 01:29:11plan in place the entire time to have
- 01:29:12Donald Trump subvert the peaceful
- 01:29:13transfer of power I think he followed
- 01:29:15that up by goting everybody on on the
- 01:29:16January 6th when people say stop the
- 01:29:18steel when they say we need Mike Pence
- 01:29:20to do the right thing he's talking about
- 01:29:21stopping the steal of the election
- 01:29:23because he wants to president when he's
- 01:29:24talking about Mike Pence doing the right
- 01:29:25thing he's talking about Mike Pence
- 01:29:27choosing him to be president when he
- 01:29:29tells people we're going to March down
- 01:29:30Pennsylvania Avenue and we're going to
- 01:29:32give them the strength that they need to
- 01:29:33do the right thing he's talking about
- 01:29:34them objecting to the certification of
- 01:29:36the election using intimidation and
- 01:29:38violence that they have to to do it and
- 01:29:39they were successful to some extent they
- 01:29:40managed to delay the certification of
- 01:29:42the vote but unfortunately there were
- 01:29:43too many proud strong men most of whom
- 01:29:45were Republicans people like bar people
- 01:29:47like Pence um other lawmakers and other
- 01:29:49bureaucrats inside the White House that
- 01:29:50managed to stop and thwart Donald
- 01:29:51Trump's plot to insurrecto the
- 01:29:53government you make a lot of assumptions
- 01:29:55about what a person's thinking inside of
- 01:29:56their mind when they haven't actually
- 01:29:58said anything that is what do you I what
- 01:29:59do you think Donald Trump hasn't said
- 01:30:00that I don't know well he never said go
- 01:30:02down there and stop them and do all he
- 01:30:04said we're going to go down there and
- 01:30:05peacefully protest that's what he
- 01:30:06actually said you then want to put
- 01:30:08something else in his mind and in his
- 01:30:10mouth just like you do for all of your
- 01:30:12fellow Americans stop the steel what
- 01:30:13does stop the steel
- 01:30:15mean they he they believed that the
- 01:30:17election was
- 01:30:18stolen that is something that is fine
- 01:30:20for a person to believe if you think the
- 01:30:22election was stolen if you think the
- 01:30:24election is stolen and you send a ton of
- 01:30:26people down to the capital building
- 01:30:28where they're certify protest why would
- 01:30:30you peacefully protest a stolen election
- 01:30:32no he didn't say he said I know you're
- 01:30:34going to go and we're going to peace no
- 01:30:37you're putting words in his he never
- 01:30:38said that quote that you just made you
- 01:30:39just invented that quote then you tell
- 01:30:40me the words that he said when he said
- 01:30:42go down violently take it no he said we
- 01:30:43need to fight like hell you need to
- 01:30:45fight like hell you're going to lose
- 01:30:46your country he said we need to give
- 01:30:47these uh weak Republicans you know
- 01:30:49something to fight for we need to give
- 01:30:50them a back we need to help the strong
- 01:30:52ones they're going to help us like these
- 01:30:53are he made these over I read you 20
- 01:30:55statements that he made it an spey you
- 01:30:57make things
- 01:30:58up people are thinking you make things
- 01:31:00up about what people are saying you're I
- 01:31:03haven't made up a single thing you just
- 01:31:04made FY land you live fanty land you
- 01:31:07need to focus on facts Focus say why do
- 01:31:10focus on what people say you're the one
- 01:31:12that you don't even you didn't even know
- 01:31:13what the legal theories were that you
- 01:31:14wereing people that support RFK junr
- 01:31:16just hateful they hate
- 01:31:18the they do absolutely 1 million look
- 01:31:21you're just making stuff up what am I
- 01:31:23making up
- 01:31:24I'm making up tip 35 says this is our
- 01:31:28last one thanks for our I got to tell
- 01:31:31you folks we really do appreciate our
- 01:31:33speakers it's been a true pleasure we've
- 01:31:34got one last question but I do want to
- 01:31:36remind you they are linked both in the
- 01:31:38description box and in the title you
- 01:31:39click right there on the hyperlink in
- 01:31:41the title and they're also linked in the
- 01:31:43podcast as this debate will be on the
- 01:31:45podcast within 24 hours you can find Our
- 01:31:47Guest links in the description box even
- 01:31:49if you disagree with them folks there's
- 01:31:50so much value to going to the original
- 01:31:53source going and hearing it straight
- 01:31:55from the person so highly encourage you
- 01:31:57check out both Kim and Steven's links
- 01:31:59tip 35 says Kim can you think of a
- 01:32:01Nation with a better form of government
- 01:32:03than the United States if not then isn't
- 01:32:06America one of the best Nations to lead
- 01:32:07the world yes the United States is the
- 01:32:10best country on Earth and there is no
- 01:32:12other country with a better system than
- 01:32:14ours and that is why we have to protect
- 01:32:16it and we have to strengthen it and we
- 01:32:18have to constantly work on our democracy
- 01:32:20otherwise we can easily lose it we
- 01:32:22cannot take it for granted we have to
- 01:32:24understand that our system is delicate
- 01:32:26that it was uh that it is that it is to
- 01:32:29be cherished and it has to be protected
- 01:32:31and that means democracy must be
- 01:32:33protected at all costs and uh yeah I do
- 01:32:36believe that America is the greatest
- 01:32:38country on Earth and we have the best
- 01:32:40system on
- 01:32:42Earth thank you very much folks want to
- 01:32:45say thanks so much for tuning in click
- 01:32:47on Kim's and Steven's links hear it
- 01:32:49straight from them yourself want to say
- 01:32:52thank you very much Steve and Kim it's
- 01:32:53been a true pleasure to have you
- 01:32:56tonight thank you very much I'll be back
- 01:32:59in a moment folks so stick around I'll
- 01:33:01have a post credit scene about upcoming
- 01:33:02debates be right back thank you both
- 01:33:06very much it's been a true pleasure to
- 01:33:07have you tonight yeah thanks a lot I'll
- 01:33:10talk to you later thank you have a good
- 01:33:12night okay well that was
- 01:33:15cringe she's going to be hella mad about
- 01:33:17that one for a while o
- 01:33:25um okay well good job we did that one
- 01:33:28talk about the debate for a couple
- 01:33:29minutes um what is there to talk about I
- 01:33:31mean there it's it's just a joke like
- 01:33:36they have I don't think she had like she
- 01:33:38does news for work right she does news
- 01:33:41for this is her job and she doesn't know
- 01:33:43like a single fact about literally
- 01:33:47anything she doesn't know anything about
- 01:33:49what's a single Trump policy what's a
- 01:33:51single Democratic policy what's a single
- 01:33:54anything um she has no
- 01:33:57idea um yeah just yeah
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