THAT'S SLANDER AND A SLUR! Debate IMPLODES In Heated Confrontation

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Summary

TLDRThe debate was a contentious discussion between Destiny and Kim about U.S. politics, focusing mainly on potential candidates for future elections, including Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Destiny argued in favor of Harris, criticizing Trump's lack of policy clarity and leadership failures, while Kim opposed Harris, criticizing her record and policies, and expressed support for Jill Stein. Key issues discussed included democratic processes, immigration, economic impacts of the candidates' policies, foreign policy, and the role of the U.S. in international conflicts. The conversation highlighted significant differences in views on democracy, party leadership, election integrity, and the handling of domestic and foreign policy issues.

Takeaways

  • 🇺🇸 Kamala Harris's candidacy is debated with strong opinions both for and against her.
  • 💰 Economic policies are a major point of contention, particularly concerning inflation and job growth.
  • 🗳️ The democratic process within political parties, especially how candidates are chosen, is scrutinized.
  • 🌍 Foreign policy and the United States' role on the global stage are critically examined.
  • 🔒 The debate includes a focus on crime and law enforcement policies.
  • 👥 Differences in handling domestic political challenges are highlighted, with a focus on Trump and Harris.
  • 📉 Trump's economic policies, particularly tariffs and deficit spending, are heavily critiqued.
  • 🔍 Election integrity and processes, including challenges and outcomes, are central topics.
  • 💡 The debate also touches on perceived failures and successes of recent administrations in handling crises.
  • 🇷🇺 Russia's influence and global relations with adversaries like China are discussed.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The discussion opens with a question about whether Putin is a dictator and draws parallels with historical obligations to fight against oppressive regimes, like in World War II. The speaker criticizes current conservative media for spreading misinformation and supports the idea that facts should unite discussions. They argue Democrats are more reality-based compared to conservatives who have diverged from factual reality, as seen in the Dominion lawsuit against Fox News.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Support for the Democratic Party and Kamala Harris is presented, arguing that Democrats are more effective in policy-making and governance compared to Republicans, citing the unfulfilled promises under Trump's presidency such as the failure to build a wall despite majorities in Congress. The narrative suggests Democratic policies are pragmatic, pointing to decisive actions like passing the Chips Act and proposing realistic economic solutions amidst challenges like inflation.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    A critique of the Republican party under Trump is made, calling Trump’s actions un-American and treasonous due to his attempts to subvert the electoral process and pressure officials to alter electoral outcomes, particularly highlighted by the events around January 6th and attempts to manipulate the DOJ. Support for Kamala Harris is framed as a better choice based on these political and ethical evaluations.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The opposing viewpoint starts with criticism of Kamala Harris’s path to vice presidency, suggesting it was anti-democratic due to a lack of primary support and being selected by party elites, overriding voter enthusiasm or confidence. This argument paints a concern over democratic processes within the Democratic Party itself, contrasting with Republican primaries' openness.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    The debate continues with accusations against the Democratic establishment of bypassing democratic choices by enforcing Kamala Harris as the nominee, while affirming the importance of open primaries for democracy. There's a back-and-forth on whether private party operations align with democratic values and whether party decisions inherently challenge democratic ideals.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Discussion oscillates between defining democracy within party operations versus public elections, with one side arguing each party’s right to choice candidates in their own manner. Questions about the democratic nature of open primaries question their effectiveness due to low participation and generalized inefficiencies. The focus is on the DNC's choice as pragmatically strategic rather than undemocratic.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    The debate turns towards economic policies where the Democrats are argued to be handling inflation post-COVID better than Republicans under Trump, citing policy actions like the Chips Act. The discussion also dissects Trump's economic hypotheticals like high tariffs, assessing them as potentially inflationary, contrasting Democratic achievements and visible economic recovery against Republican fiscal strategies.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    Criticism is directed towards Democratic management of the economy under Biden and Harris, accusing them of high inflation and economic mismanagement, countered by a defense stating COVID's global economic impact and Democratic legislative responses, which include infrastructure investment and tax credit impacts. The claim denies improvements while emphasizing current economic hardships facing Americans.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    As the discussion continues on crime policies, the conversation acknowledges the role of state versus federal influence on crime rates, with critiques of Harris's past record as a prosecutor. The debate suggests Democrats' perceived leniency on crime with policies like 'defund the police' and bail reforms contribute to rising crime concerns, despite some statistical claims of crime reduction post-Trump administration.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Foreign policy is scrutinized, with Harris's stance likened to more interventionist policies compared to a more isolationist stance advocated by Jill Stein. Harris is criticized for aligning with Hillary Clinton's foreign policy approach while promoting the United States' role as a global leader versus encouraging a multipolar world where other countries dominate geopolitics, which is viewed as detrimental by the opposing voice.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:55:00

    The contrasting views on foreign policy include one side stating the U.S. should avoid intervention in global conflicts not related to national interest, while the other defends U.S. interventions as essential for global stability and moral leadership. The debate reflects on whether military and diplomatic influence from the U.S. helps maintain world order or unjustly enforces American political agendas abroad.

  • 00:55:00 - 01:00:00

    Discussion reverts to Trump’s election disputes and whether his actions represent a democratic process or an insurrectionist attempt. The defense suggests Trump had a right to challenge elections legally, while criticisms argue his attempts involved breaking laws after exhausting avenues and misled narratives about the election results, culminating in the Capitol riots.

  • 01:00:00 - 01:05:00

    Clarification is sought on what constitutes democratic ideals and practices within the U.S., contrasting private party operations with broader democratic principles. It’s argued that party control doesn’t necessarily reflect undemocratic practices unless public voting rights are compromised. The debate touches upon the historical evolution of primaries as part of democratic practice.

  • 01:05:00 - 01:10:00

    The question of foreign political influence in U.S. domestic politics is raised, with concerns about Russian interference recurrently brought up, citing past indictments and current skepticism regarding media and electoral influences. One side calls for stronger actions against such interference, while others question the validity and outcome of past investigations.

  • 01:10:00 - 01:15:00

    Examination of primaries and party dynamics shows the complexity of internal party nominations and how they align or misalign with public expectations. The discussion highlights possible criticisms of party sameness in choices, yet recognizes the legal structures in place that allow party autonomy in candidate selection without infringing public election processes.

  • 01:15:00 - 01:34:18

    As the video concludes, the closing statements reiterate faith in U.S. governance and democratic resilience, albeit acknowledging inherent system weaknesses and the necessity for continuous democratic practice improvements. The debate ends with a call for informed voting and participation in the democratic process, encouraging audience engagement with political discourse and learning.

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Video Q&A

  • Is Putin considered a dictator in the debate?

    Yes, Destiny agrees that Putin is a dictator due to his control over the state, economy, and media.

  • Did Kim support Kamala Harris in the debate?

    No, Kim did not support Kamala Harris and argued against her policies and candidacy.

  • What was a major point of disagreement in the debate?

    A major point was whether Kamala Harris should be supported over Donald Trump, with Destiny advocating for Harris and Kim opposing her.

  • What were Kim's views on Trump's policies?

    Kim was critical of Trump and did not support him, despite disagreeing with the Democratic party.

  • Did the debate touch on international relations and obligations?

    Yes, discussions included the role of the U.S. in international conflicts and its moral obligations.

  • How did Destiny view Jill Stein's foreign policy?

    Destiny critiqued Jill Stein's foreign policy as unrealistic and harmful to U.S. leadership globally.

  • Was Kamala Harris's record on crime discussed?

    Yes, her record as a prosecutor and her party's stance on law enforcement were debated.

  • Did the debate address election processes in the U.S.?

    Yes, it included discussions about the Democratic party's nomination process and general election dynamics.

  • What was a repeated criticism of Donald Trump during the debate?

    Destiny repeatedly criticized Trump for lacking clear policy plans and failing to pass significant legislation.

  • Did the debate discuss the economic policies of Harris and Trump?

    Yes, there was a discussion on how each candidate's policies might influence the U.S. economy.

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    is Putin a dictator and will you
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    denounce Russia's involvement with
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    tenant media is Putin a dictator yeah
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    obviously of course I mean what's a
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    dictator wait wait wait do we not feel
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    like Putin wait so is Putin not a
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    dictator I don't know if he's a dictator
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    I'm not Russian I don't really care
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    Russia wants to invade its neighbors do
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    you not think other countries have an
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    obligation to help no do you think that
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    in World War II do you think the United
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    States should have stepped up to fight
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    against Germany I think that the United
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    States that's an easy yes or no question
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    should we have Ste up to fight against
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    such an easy yes or no question
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    don't if
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    we will call people who from count and
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    they ited under media uh other people
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    that are still operating in this media
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    environment people like yourself
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    probably of slander that sort of slur
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    right here in front of everybody you're
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    a piece of [ __ ] and I speak for a lot of
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    people when I say that I'm sure you do
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    and I'm sure they're all flying to
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    Moscow right now yeah I think that right
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    now I think one of the most important
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    things in America and I think for the
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    world is that we all kind of get back on
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    the same page factually about stuff
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    that's actually happened so I think
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    supporting Harris is important for a few
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    key reasons and I think the first one is
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    that right now the conservative party in
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    the United States is completely and
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    totally divorced from any type of
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    factual reality I think that the
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    Democrats whether you agree or disagree
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    with their policies are at least more in
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    the real world than the Republicans are
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    if you want you can look through the
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    Dominion lawsuit against Fox News where
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    Fox News literally says over and over
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    again we're going to lie about the
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    Dominion machines they do lie about the
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    Dominion machines the reason why they do
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    that is to keep up with the other false
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    conservative media that's lying about
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    the Dominion machines and you can see
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    this over and over and over again
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    whether it's all of the allegations of
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    voter fraud where Sydney pal and juliani
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    have said that they lied about it uh
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    whether it's Trump pushing voter fraud
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    claims that he has been told over and
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    over again are not true uh yeah I just
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    think that the fact that conservatives
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    are no longer based in reality is a huge
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    threat to really the world because it
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    makes us so we can't live in the same
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    reality so we can't even discuss
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    policies and I said we're wasting all of
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    our time debating conspiracies and
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    that's I think one really good reason to
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    support the Democratic party on policies
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    I think supporting the parties are uh
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    supporting the Democratic party or the
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    Harris candidacy is also important
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    because Trump has no policies every time
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    he opens his mouth he just says some
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    random crazy stuff he's talking about a
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    10% 20% tariff on All Imports I don't
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    even know if he fully knows what a
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    tariff is uh at times where we're
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    worried about things like inflation the
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    idea of adding like 10 or 20% of a price
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    tag onto every single good that you buy
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    is absolutely insane uh I think that uh
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    in terms of economic policy or in terms
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    of domestic policy I think that the
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    Democrats are much more able to get real
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    stuff done rather than just kind of like
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    Pander to an audience uh for example
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    Trump ran on building the wall he had
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    four to build the wall he didn't build
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    the wall he had Republicans in both
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    halves of Congress there's really no
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    excuse for his failures other than
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    blaming the people around him which I
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    don't know why he wouldn't just do that
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    again the next four years that he's in
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    spoiler alert he will do that again uh
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    you know you compare Donald Trump's you
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    know saying we're going to do something
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    about China to Biden passing the chips
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    act because he was able to actually be
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    an effective leader and get Congress to
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    legislate an actual bill or if you look
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    at how the Democrats tried to tackle the
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    Border problem where they had a bill and
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    Trump shot it down because he wants to
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    keep the Border open for election season
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    I think it's clear that the Democrats
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    win when it comes to actual policy um
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    and I think Donald Trump is an
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    individual is an abhorent aoral
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    unamerican unpatriotic treasonous person
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    who tried to weaponize the doj uh he
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    tried to uh create fake slates of
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    electors in order to overturn the
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    electoral vote uh he basically cheer
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    violence on January 6th to try to
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    pressure legislators to not certify the
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    vote uh and he tried to subvert the
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    peaceful transfer of power only leaving
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    when at multiple stops there were other
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    people inside of the administration they
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    basically stopped his attempt to uh you
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    know like take over power in the United
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    States to prevent the actual outcome of
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    the election from coming to fruition so
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    I think that Harris is a very very easy
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    Choice over Trump basically no matter
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    which way you look at it but yeah that's
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    my
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    argument you got it thank you very much
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    for that opening Stephen and folks if
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    it's your first time here at modern day
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    subscribe Button as we have many more up
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    coming debates and we're going to take
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    it over to Kim thanks for being with us
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    Kim the floor is all yours for your
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    opening as well thank you uh the reason
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    why you should not vote for kamla Harris
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    I think the biggest reason why you
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    should not is to protect democracy the
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    very thing that Democrats claim they're
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    constantly trying to protect meanwhile
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    uh vice president kamla Harris ran for
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    president in 2020 she ended up having to
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    drop out early from the race before the
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    first primary vote because her candidacy
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    did not generate any significant support
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    among the Democratic electorate there
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    was a lack of enthusiasm there was a
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    lack of confidence in her leadership um
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    nonetheless even without all of that
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    support she ended up being selected by
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    party Elites to be the vice president
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    for Joe Biden furthermore then what
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    Democrats have done is they have
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    squashed any any ounce of the ability to
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    have an election they squashed any
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    candidates that were challenging Joe
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    Biden unlike Republicans who actually
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    had a primary trying to primary Donald
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    Trump we saw numerous candidates going
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    after Donald Trump they Nikki Haley ran
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    a very Fierce campaign against him so
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    did Ron De Santos meanwhile Democrats
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    actually buried any possible um counter
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    to any Alterna to Joe Biden they then
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    decided to take the guy out to pasture
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    essentially pushing him aside against
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    his will they then had no Open Primary
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    in order to nominate kamla Harris as the
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    as the the candidate and they instead
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    once again in the same very way that
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    they made her the vice president
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    candidate is that they just the party
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    Elites from a very topown structure
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    without the support of the American
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    people without the support of their
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    Democratic voters decided to anoint
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    Harris as the candidate if you care
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    about democracy even if you like kamla
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    Harris to support that type of
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    anti-democratic behavior is signing off
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    on this happening over and over and over
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    again to agree to this maybe you like
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    KLA Harris today maybe she is the person
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    that you think you agree with with her
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    policies but the fact that Democrats
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    have done it in this very undemocratic
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    way you're pay you're Paving the way for
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    for this uh sort of authoritarian top-
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    down form of leadership that the next
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    time the candidate that you don't like
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    could end up being the one uh nominated
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    although I will say that the vast
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    majority of the voters do not like kamla
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    Harris so she's not a particularly
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    popular candidate uh she has the lowest
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    the lowest approval rating of any vice
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    president ever in the history of this
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    nation since polling has come out with a
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    negative uh a net negative rating of7
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    so Comm if if you care about democracy
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    if that's something that you genuinely
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    want to preserve in this nation then you
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    cannot support the way that the
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    Democratic party has gone forward
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    nominating their
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    candidate thank you very much for that
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    opening as well folks want to let you
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    hour and 45 minutes for tonight so do
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    don't want insults toward the guest you
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    want sincere questions thank you very
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    much Flor it's all yours Destiny
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    Kim yeah I guess the first thing is um
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    do we agree that Donald Trump thought
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    that vice president Pence could choose
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    him as the winner of the last
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    election um I don't know what Donald
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    Trump thought when it came to that I
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    think that there are some legalities
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    with how our country runs that do allow
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    for certain procedures a lot of them are
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    really wonky and they get into the weeds
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    um so there is maybe a possibility that
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    he thought something could happen but
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    okay are you aware that are you aware
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    that Trump and Eastman wanted Pence to
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    break the law in Congress the Electoral
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    count act they wanted him to break that
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    law to choose Donald Trump to remain
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    president once again I'm not sure if
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    that was breaking the law or if that was
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    using an obscure um procedur procedural
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    rule that would allow for something
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    along those lines that has been debated
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    by experts I am not an expert on that
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    but experts do debate that to be clear
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    experts don't debate it are you aware
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    that Eastman himself said on first how
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    do you why do you say that experts don't
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    debate that when they do debate because
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    there are none find them and bring them
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    to me and I will destroy all of them no
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    realt there are none that there are any
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    experts that debate whether or not there
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    are some procedural rules that would
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    allow for certain things to happen in
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    during this during those procedures you
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    don't think that there's any expert out
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    there that was arguing that because I
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    heard numerous experts saying that there
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    was this you know obscure rule that
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    would allow something like that to
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    happen maybe from other countries but
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    not from the United States no there were
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    no serious experts arguing this that's
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    why Eastman himself said that if it went
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    to the Supreme Court he said they'd
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    probably lose 72 then he said they'd
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    probably lose 90 72 so two of the
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    Supreme Court Justices do you not think
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    that they know the laws of this country
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    Eastman was asked on first pass do you
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    think that they would win in the Supreme
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    Court and he said we would probably lose
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    72 and then he admitted they would lose
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    90 but actually we don't know because it
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    never went to the Supreme Court but had
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    it maybe it would lose 7 to2 I'm not
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    saying it would have won but the fact
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    that there maybe would have been two or
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    three justices that would have ruled in
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    favor show that there is an obscure rule
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    that potentially could have been used
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    that Trump thought that would be
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    possible if you're the progator if
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    you're the originator of the idea and
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    even you think that you would lose in
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    the Supreme Court but maybe two people
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    side with you that doesn't seem like an
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    idea that's hotly contested by
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    experts experts clearly if two of them
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    would agree to it then maybe you
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    wouldn't win but it still doesn't mean
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    that the rule isn't worth Challen in
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    there's plenty of cases that losing the
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    Supreme Court it doesn't make them not
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    worth challenging do you think it would
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    be in line with American democracy for
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    the president to tell the vice president
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    to ignore the will of the voters and
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    choose who the next president is going
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    to be I think that if the will of the
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    voters was ignored by the electoral
  • 00:09:45
    process and if the vote was rigged then
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    yes absolutely it would be the
  • 00:09:48
    responsibility of the president of the
  • 00:09:50
    United States to actually put that
  • 00:09:52
    forward to protect democracy in this
  • 00:09:53
    country depends on how you look at it if
  • 00:09:55
    it were Donald Trump who subverted the
  • 00:09:57
    election and kamla Harris actually wins
  • 00:10:00
    and you believe in your mind or you know
  • 00:10:02
    for sure that she actually won wouldn't
  • 00:10:04
    you want them to challenge that wouldn't
  • 00:10:06
    you want them to try to do whatever they
  • 00:10:08
    could to preserve democracy the only
  • 00:10:10
    reason you're against it is because of
  • 00:10:12
    the person and you've got to look deeper
  • 00:10:14
    than that it's got to be about the
  • 00:10:15
    actual process not the person Donald
  • 00:10:17
    Trump might not be your guy or my guy
  • 00:10:20
    but nonetheless the process needs to be
  • 00:10:22
    protected yes I agree with that you
  • 00:10:24
    already said that you don't know the
  • 00:10:25
    process so I don't know why you're
  • 00:10:26
    appealing to the process Donald Trump
  • 00:10:27
    did try to challenge the election with
  • 00:10:29
    64 different court cases he won one of
  • 00:10:31
    them in an inconsequential Pennsylvania
  • 00:10:33
    case that didn't really impact much of
  • 00:10:34
    the vote at all he lost the other 63 he
  • 00:10:37
    was shot down in the Supreme Court a
  • 00:10:38
    number of times and he was shot down
  • 00:10:40
    when he tried to present false evidence
  • 00:10:42
    to state legislators a number of times
  • 00:10:44
    everywhere that he tried the process he
  • 00:10:45
    lost and that ended up with him begging
  • 00:10:47
    Pence to basically just choose him as
  • 00:10:50
    the winner of the election at what point
  • 00:10:51
    can we not say this is probably
  • 00:10:53
    anti-democratic how is that
  • 00:10:54
    anti-democratic he went through the
  • 00:10:56
    process if you challenge things in court
  • 00:10:58
    and you lose in court that's using the
  • 00:10:59
    process just because you lost doesn't
  • 00:11:01
    mean that you're doing anything illegal
  • 00:11:02
    you're using was illegal to break the
  • 00:11:04
    ECA he lost in the courts that's why he
  • 00:11:06
    told Pence I need you to break the law
  • 00:11:07
    and choose me to be president that was
  • 00:11:09
    the process he went through the courts
  • 00:11:10
    and he lost he didn't like the result
  • 00:11:12
    and then he asked Pence to choose him to
  • 00:11:13
    be the winner of the election this is
  • 00:11:16
    anti-democratic I believe that that is
  • 00:11:18
    part of the if that's part of the
  • 00:11:19
    process that's part of the process was
  • 00:11:21
    it part of the process when they had
  • 00:11:23
    people Forge in seven different states
  • 00:11:24
    that they were the electors and that
  • 00:11:26
    they wanted to vote for
  • 00:11:27
    Trump again there are a lot of rules
  • 00:11:29
    with the process in fact when the
  • 00:11:31
    Democrats were upset that Donald Trump
  • 00:11:33
    had won in 2016 they they they pursued
  • 00:11:35
    similar tactics can a single state where
  • 00:11:38
    they where they had a false slate of
  • 00:11:39
    electors made without the approval of
  • 00:11:41
    the state legislature no I believe
  • 00:11:43
    Colorado actually in 2016 did put
  • 00:11:45
    forward some alternate electors or even
  • 00:11:47
    said that they wanted to have a
  • 00:11:49
    compromised candidate send electors to
  • 00:11:52
    uh to to do the the election and instead
  • 00:11:54
    put Mitt Romney in as a compromised
  • 00:11:56
    candidate I remember hypothesizing on on
  • 00:11:59
    what a state legislator said that they
  • 00:12:01
    maybe they wanted to do maybe they
  • 00:12:02
    didn't is far different than Trump
  • 00:12:03
    campaign that's great there was a push
  • 00:12:05
    for it that's great that some people
  • 00:12:06
    might have pushed for it Trump Donald
  • 00:12:08
    Trump and his underlings falsified seven
  • 00:12:11
    different slates of electors for Pence
  • 00:12:13
    to choose on January 6th this is
  • 00:12:15
    anti-democratic he subvert what could be
  • 00:12:16
    less Democratic than trying to change
  • 00:12:18
    the outcome of the election of a state
  • 00:12:19
    because you don't like the result do you
  • 00:12:21
    believe that the election results in
  • 00:12:22
    Venezuela were accurate I'm not
  • 00:12:24
    Venezuelan I don't care about the
  • 00:12:26
    results in Venezuela but we had ways to
  • 00:12:28
    challenge the results in the United
  • 00:12:29
    States breaking the law and having the
  • 00:12:30
    vice president choose you to be the
  • 00:12:32
    president again surely you can see the
  • 00:12:34
    conflict of interests there right the
  • 00:12:36
    guy that is President right now is
  • 00:12:37
    saying that the election was rigged when
  • 00:12:39
    he's running for election again I mean
  • 00:12:41
    like how why would we trust this person
  • 00:12:42
    who lost in every other Forum in 2016
  • 00:12:45
    Democrats believe that the elections
  • 00:12:47
    were rigged Hillary but Hillary what
  • 00:12:49
    what's the difference though in 2016
  • 00:12:50
    Hillary conceded that night Donald Trump
  • 00:12:52
    said stop the count and tried to win the
  • 00:12:54
    election early did Hillary really
  • 00:12:56
    concede or did they she conceded
  • 00:12:59
    continue to undermine behind the scenes
  • 00:13:02
    Donald Trump's presidency continue to
  • 00:13:04
    delegitimize it continue to to go after
  • 00:13:07
    him numerous times over and over after
  • 00:13:09
    2016 people however you want what is
  • 00:13:11
    what could be less Democratic than
  • 00:13:13
    Donald Trump telling Pence I want you to
  • 00:13:15
    make me the president again I'm not
  • 00:13:16
    happy with these Court results I'm not
  • 00:13:17
    happy with what's going on I need you to
  • 00:13:19
    choose me again to be president I don't
  • 00:13:21
    think that's actually a clear
  • 00:13:23
    characterization of what really happened
  • 00:13:25
    it's it is absolutely what happened it
  • 00:13:27
    is from your perspective from the
  • 00:13:29
    perspective of every single person
  • 00:13:31
    involved that's why Eastman after it
  • 00:13:32
    failed was emailing juliani saying like
  • 00:13:34
    hey you remember that pardon list I
  • 00:13:36
    think I do need to be stuck on that I
  • 00:13:37
    think I'm going to need some pardons
  • 00:13:38
    preemptively just in case this is why
  • 00:13:40
    juliani and Sydney pal are being sued
  • 00:13:41
    it's why they've admitted that they lied
  • 00:13:42
    about the voter fraud it's why a lot of
  • 00:13:44
    them are being disbarred now yes this
  • 00:13:45
    all happened very public record very
  • 00:13:47
    open testimonies under oath yes all of
  • 00:13:49
    this happened so do you agree that
  • 00:13:51
    Donald Trump telling the vice president
  • 00:13:53
    can you make me president again that's
  • 00:13:54
    like the least Democratic thing you
  • 00:13:55
    could ever do in a democracy I think
  • 00:13:58
    that if you think that the election was
  • 00:13:59
    rigged I think that it is your
  • 00:14:01
    responsibility to protect democracy so
  • 00:14:03
    you think that Donald Trump should have
  • 00:14:04
    tried to steal the election if he thinks
  • 00:14:05
    that the if
  • 00:14:07
    the forgive me I just wanna I want to
  • 00:14:10
    give you a chance to each of you to get
  • 00:14:12
    any last thoughts on this but then I
  • 00:14:14
    want to redirect us back to Kamala
  • 00:14:16
    Harris per se okay okay yeah I just
  • 00:14:19
    think when we talk about democracies uh
  • 00:14:21
    the Democratic party or the Republican
  • 00:14:23
    Party could literally right now say oh
  • 00:14:24
    here's my candidate we're going to put
  • 00:14:25
    this guy forward and then you guys can
  • 00:14:26
    vote for them or not in the general
  • 00:14:27
    election uh both have a right to do that
  • 00:14:29
    they're private parties they can do
  • 00:14:31
    whatever they want basically um the idea
  • 00:14:33
    that kamla Harris who was the vice
  • 00:14:34
    president who was on the ticket uh that
  • 00:14:36
    delegates switch from Biden to Comm
  • 00:14:37
    Harris is somehow anti-democratic you
  • 00:14:39
    don't have to vote for them in the
  • 00:14:40
    general if you don't want to nobody's
  • 00:14:41
    forcing you to do that but somehow
  • 00:14:43
    Donald Trump telling the vice president
  • 00:14:44
    hey I need you to just pick me as the
  • 00:14:46
    president I need you to pick me and
  • 00:14:47
    ignore you know the will of the actual
  • 00:14:49
    voters of the American population and
  • 00:14:50
    just pick me to be the president again
  • 00:14:52
    because I'm not happy with the results
  • 00:14:53
    of the last election that is the least
  • 00:14:54
    Democratic thing you could ever do in a
  • 00:14:55
    democracy I think it was to delay the to
  • 00:14:58
    delay in order to allow for More
  • 00:15:01
    Counting I don't think it was just
  • 00:15:03
    install me as president again and anoint
  • 00:15:05
    me as president instead was a tactic to
  • 00:15:08
    delay in order for the challenges to go
  • 00:15:10
    through the course the challenges had
  • 00:15:11
    gone through and they had all lost all
  • 00:15:12
    64 cases were resolved by then they had
  • 00:15:14
    nothing live everything was dead it was
  • 00:15:16
    completely gone that's why they wanted
  • 00:15:17
    him to just choose him to be president
  • 00:15:19
    again uh during the January 6 counting
  • 00:15:22
    ceremony forgive me Kim I'm sure you got
  • 00:15:24
    a round in the chamber ready to fire but
  • 00:15:26
    I do want to just redirect us just back
  • 00:15:28
    to Kamal Harris per
  • 00:15:31
    se okay so regarding kamla Harris um it
  • 00:15:35
    is an undemocratic process to anoint the
  • 00:15:38
    next person even if the Democratic party
  • 00:15:40
    is allowed to do this because they are a
  • 00:15:42
    private company I understand that the
  • 00:15:44
    courts have uh ruled in that way doesn't
  • 00:15:47
    that shouldn't that bother you if you
  • 00:15:49
    are somebody who actually wants to
  • 00:15:51
    protect democracy it doesn't matter if
  • 00:15:53
    these are private companies if these are
  • 00:15:55
    private private corporations they're
  • 00:15:56
    supposed to be championing and stand for
  • 00:15:59
    democracy and in fact that is something
  • 00:16:00
    that the Democratic party claims that
  • 00:16:02
    they are holding the torch for is
  • 00:16:05
    democracy yet what they do is they
  • 00:16:07
    completely undermine the voters kamla
  • 00:16:09
    Harris has the lowest rating ever of any
  • 00:16:13
    vice president in the history of this
  • 00:16:14
    country and yet they anointed her as
  • 00:16:16
    vice president without even an Open
  • 00:16:18
    Primary they didn't have an Open Primary
  • 00:16:20
    nor did they have an open convention
  • 00:16:23
    that would have allowed at least the
  • 00:16:25
    electors to vote for other people they
  • 00:16:27
    didn't even allow that they just said
  • 00:16:29
    KLA Harris is our person this is the
  • 00:16:31
    person you're going to have to vote for
  • 00:16:33
    and they didn't give you a choice that
  • 00:16:35
    is completely against
  • 00:16:38
    democracy there I have a choice I can
  • 00:16:40
    vote for whoever I want in the general
  • 00:16:41
    election so you're completely wrong
  • 00:16:43
    there uh the goal of the party is to put
  • 00:16:45
    forth a candidate that is the most
  • 00:16:46
    likely to win the election I think that
  • 00:16:48
    the Democratic party choosing the person
  • 00:16:50
    who is on the ticket that won more votes
  • 00:16:52
    in any presidential election in all of
  • 00:16:54
    history is probably better than trying
  • 00:16:55
    to have an Open Primary and having us
  • 00:16:57
    devolve into a crazy you know [ __ ] show
  • 00:16:59
    for a month trying to figure out who the
  • 00:17:01
    next candidate is going to be I think
  • 00:17:02
    the DNC choosing Harris probably gives
  • 00:17:03
    him the best chance to win in the
  • 00:17:04
    general and I'll be voting for Harris
  • 00:17:06
    because she was part of the ticket that
  • 00:17:07
    all the other Democrats voted for on the
  • 00:17:09
    last election uh if you're not happy
  • 00:17:10
    with that or if you don't like that
  • 00:17:11
    that's fine but it's not anti-democratic
  • 00:17:13
    because nobody is forcing you to vote
  • 00:17:15
    that ticket if you want vote for
  • 00:17:16
    somebody else or just don't vote at all
  • 00:17:17
    or have a protest Vote or whatever and
  • 00:17:19
    the DNC would probably never do that
  • 00:17:20
    again uh the idea that the idea that it
  • 00:17:23
    was anti-democratic for the DNC to pick
  • 00:17:24
    the path that they wanted to put forth
  • 00:17:26
    who they felt was the best candidate
  • 00:17:27
    which traditionally they do with the
  • 00:17:28
    delegate process or an Open Primary uh
  • 00:17:30
    but this time because of extenuating
  • 00:17:32
    circumstances they just went with the
  • 00:17:33
    vice president who was already on the
  • 00:17:34
    ticket I think to call that
  • 00:17:35
    anti-democratic a silly there's nothing
  • 00:17:36
    anti-democratic about that nobody's
  • 00:17:37
    forcing you to vote for a comma in the
  • 00:17:39
    general election well how are you how
  • 00:17:41
    else are you going to vote who would you
  • 00:17:43
    vote for then who are your options I
  • 00:17:45
    could I could not vote I could vote for
  • 00:17:47
    Trump I could vote for what Jill Stein
  • 00:17:48
    or the libertarian candidate you vote
  • 00:17:49
    for whoever you want to vote for it's
  • 00:17:50
    the United States of America so you
  • 00:17:53
    don't think that the party that is
  • 00:17:54
    saying we are the party for democracy
  • 00:17:57
    and then completely subverting that
  • 00:17:58
    democracy
  • 00:17:59
    and not even listening to the will of
  • 00:18:01
    the democratic voters and instead just
  • 00:18:02
    giving them Force feeding them a
  • 00:18:04
    candidate you think that that is fine
  • 00:18:06
    that that's de democ Dem standing for de
  • 00:18:08
    democracy is not what you do inside of a
  • 00:18:11
    company democracy is not what happens in
  • 00:18:13
    the in the McDonald's manager's office
  • 00:18:15
    democracy is what we do to protect the
  • 00:18:17
    institutions of the United States of
  • 00:18:18
    America while we're expressing our will
  • 00:18:20
    through the structures of our government
  • 00:18:21
    the Democratic party as a private party
  • 00:18:23
    their goal is to put up the candidate
  • 00:18:25
    that they think can win best when the
  • 00:18:26
    Democratic party talks about protecting
  • 00:18:29
    they're not talking about the internal
  • 00:18:30
    primary process or how they uh you know
  • 00:18:33
    put delegates to different candidates
  • 00:18:35
    they're talking about defending
  • 00:18:36
    democracy in the United States of
  • 00:18:37
    America as part of the US government so
  • 00:18:39
    their goal should be to put up the
  • 00:18:40
    strongest candidate there aren't a ton
  • 00:18:42
    of people in the Democratic party that
  • 00:18:43
    hate kamla Harris and are mad that they
  • 00:18:44
    put her up there are some extreme people
  • 00:18:46
    or there are some Outsiders that are
  • 00:18:47
    trying to say that it should be
  • 00:18:48
    different but KL was part of the most
  • 00:18:50
    winning ticket in all of uh presidential
  • 00:18:52
    history if anything I think I'd be more
  • 00:18:54
    upset if I was a Republican and I saw
  • 00:18:55
    that Donald Trump didn't even debate the
  • 00:18:57
    other Republican candidates because he
  • 00:18:58
    was so scared of of now as we've seen
  • 00:19:00
    being exposed as a as a delusional
  • 00:19:03
    insane old man that can't even you know
  • 00:19:05
    hold his composure on stage Donald Trump
  • 00:19:06
    didn't have a single debate with Haley
  • 00:19:08
    or with Des santz uh and you're going to
  • 00:19:09
    say that that process was somehow more
  • 00:19:11
    uh more democratic like no they're
  • 00:19:13
    private parties but the Republican Party
  • 00:19:14
    can choose their nominee however they
  • 00:19:15
    want as well I don't care it's they they
  • 00:19:18
    decided to actually listen to voters
  • 00:19:19
    that's how they did it they decided to
  • 00:19:21
    let people vote and decide Nikki Haley
  • 00:19:23
    put up a fierce campaign so did Ronda
  • 00:19:25
    Santa so did many others and ultimately
  • 00:19:27
    the voters decided that they didn't want
  • 00:19:29
    they didn't care to hear a debate
  • 00:19:31
    between Donald Trump or Ronda santis or
  • 00:19:32
    Donald Trump and Nikki Haley the voters
  • 00:19:35
    decided not the top down Elites sitting
  • 00:19:37
    in a back room deciding who was going to
  • 00:19:39
    be their best candidate they didn't
  • 00:19:41
    really want Donald Trump there was a lot
  • 00:19:43
    of internal chatter inside of the
  • 00:19:44
    Republican party not really wanting
  • 00:19:45
    Donald Trump But ultimately they did
  • 00:19:47
    allow the voters to decide so you're
  • 00:19:49
    saying that in order to protect
  • 00:19:51
    democracy it is so what so you're saying
  • 00:19:53
    in order to protect democracy it is
  • 00:19:56
    totally fine to not all
  • 00:19:59
    the Democratic process with the people
  • 00:20:01
    in order to protect democracy so then in
  • 00:20:03
    what in your mind is democracy it's not
  • 00:20:06
    how private parties put forth their
  • 00:20:08
    candidate what's democracy democracy is
  • 00:20:12
    a very broad idea that expresses
  • 00:20:13
    different forms of government that
  • 00:20:14
    usually involve some form of the
  • 00:20:16
    population voting and in the unit what
  • 00:20:18
    would they vote on we could vote on a
  • 00:20:20
    presidential uh candidate we could vote
  • 00:20:22
    on legislators and lawmakers we could
  • 00:20:23
    vote on city council people we could do
  • 00:20:25
    direct referendums to vote for policies
  • 00:20:27
    I mean so is it a democracy if let's say
  • 00:20:30
    both parties just decide that they're
  • 00:20:32
    going to nominate the same exact
  • 00:20:33
    candidate and we're all going to have
  • 00:20:35
    one choice and they have the freedom to
  • 00:20:37
    do that because they're both corporate
  • 00:20:38
    private entities so let's say they
  • 00:20:40
    decide that they're both going to put
  • 00:20:41
    forward their their their person and
  • 00:20:45
    that's who we get to choose and there's
  • 00:20:47
    nobody else on the ticket is it
  • 00:20:49
    democracy just because we have we do get
  • 00:20:51
    to go through the process of casting to
  • 00:20:52
    vote for the one person that's available
  • 00:20:54
    to us other people could run for
  • 00:20:56
    president nobody's forcing you to vote
  • 00:20:58
    for that candidate you could do wrin you
  • 00:20:59
    could vote for another person you don't
  • 00:21:00
    have to vote for who the two major
  • 00:21:01
    parties
  • 00:21:04
    nominate you understand that how private
  • 00:21:06
    companies do things is it has nothing to
  • 00:21:08
    do with democracy right like the DNC
  • 00:21:10
    could say we're we're going to do a
  • 00:21:12
    survey across the United States of
  • 00:21:13
    America and we're going to make the
  • 00:21:14
    tallest person in America our candidate
  • 00:21:16
    that would have no impact on our
  • 00:21:17
    democracy I imagine a lot of people
  • 00:21:19
    would be upset I probably just wouldn't
  • 00:21:20
    vote for the Democratic ticket and I'm
  • 00:21:21
    sure another party would arise if we
  • 00:21:23
    believe in free market capitalism and
  • 00:21:24
    freedom and all that I'm sure another
  • 00:21:26
    party would come up and they would offer
  • 00:21:27
    a better candidate that is no impact on
  • 00:21:28
    our democracy nobody's voicing me to put
  • 00:21:30
    this person in government this is just
  • 00:21:31
    the candidate they're putting up and
  • 00:21:32
    again I don't think we disagree KLA
  • 00:21:34
    Harris was part of the ticket that got
  • 00:21:35
    more votes than any other presidential
  • 00:21:37
    ticket in the entire history of the
  • 00:21:38
    United States so why would I want them
  • 00:21:40
    to do an Open Primary with a month to go
  • 00:21:42
    and then have the entire party descend
  • 00:21:43
    into chaos without that be more
  • 00:21:45
    democratic to allow a whole bunch of
  • 00:21:46
    people to come in and a whole bunch of
  • 00:21:47
    crazy stuff to happen do would we be
  • 00:21:49
    more unified in one month afterwards no
  • 00:21:51
    I think the DNC made the correct Choice
  • 00:21:52
    the majority of the democratic voters uh
  • 00:21:54
    seem to think that they made the right
  • 00:21:55
    choice the fact that the Republican
  • 00:21:56
    party is currently in freef fall uh I
  • 00:21:58
    think means most people think the
  • 00:21:59
    Democratic party made the right choice
  • 00:22:00
    so yeah I think it was it was a good
  • 00:22:01
    choice and if you don't like it just
  • 00:22:02
    don't vote for him there has no impact
  • 00:22:03
    on our
  • 00:22:05
    democracy I this is the most bizarre
  • 00:22:07
    argument I gota I mean I just okay I'll
  • 00:22:10
    just let you I'll let you have that one
  • 00:22:11
    because ultimately ultimately I think
  • 00:22:13
    you just argued against yourself this is
  • 00:22:15
    not you just described anti-democratic
  • 00:22:17
    processes and trying to claim that it's
  • 00:22:19
    democracy I don't even know how
  • 00:22:21
    antidemocratic when a supervisor tells
  • 00:22:22
    an employee that they need to clock out
  • 00:22:24
    because they're going to get overtime is
  • 00:22:25
    that anti-democratic companies are not
  • 00:22:27
    democracies
  • 00:22:29
    they can be you have right I agree with
  • 00:22:33
    you I agree with what you just said
  • 00:22:34
    companies are not democracies okay the
  • 00:22:36
    RNC and the DNC are private companies
  • 00:22:38
    that's what that's all they are and I
  • 00:22:40
    agree with you they're not democracies
  • 00:22:42
    they're private companies that should
  • 00:22:43
    not be running as private companies
  • 00:22:44
    especially when one of them in
  • 00:22:46
    particular Champions itself as the as
  • 00:22:49
    the the the torchbearer for democracy so
  • 00:22:52
    what we should pass laws in Congress
  • 00:22:53
    that make the parties part of our what
  • 00:22:55
    Constitution or we we imbue them in law
  • 00:22:58
    someh like what does that even mean I
  • 00:23:00
    actually yeah I think that there should
  • 00:23:01
    be some laws that say that these
  • 00:23:03
    political parties if they are going to
  • 00:23:04
    be political parties putting forth
  • 00:23:05
    political candidates that they do have
  • 00:23:07
    to operate with on the basis of
  • 00:23:08
    democracy that they should not be
  • 00:23:10
    operating on the basis of being a
  • 00:23:11
    private company that even if they are
  • 00:23:13
    private corporations they are still
  • 00:23:15
    participating in a certain Marketplace
  • 00:23:17
    the marketplace of democracy and they
  • 00:23:18
    need to follow Democratic processes in
  • 00:23:20
    order to participate in that Marketplace
  • 00:23:22
    otherwise start a different company be a
  • 00:23:24
    different type of Corporation sell a
  • 00:23:25
    product do you I mean if you want to do
  • 00:23:27
    that that's fine but like we would have
  • 00:23:29
    to change the entire process like
  • 00:23:30
    primaries aren't even really yes
  • 00:23:32
    absolutely what do you think that a
  • 00:23:34
    primary is even that Democratic how many
  • 00:23:36
    people vote in the primaries what like
  • 00:23:37
    10 or 11 million people what's
  • 00:23:39
    Democratic about people campaigning for
  • 00:23:41
    Iowa and New Hampshire because they just
  • 00:23:42
    arbitrarily happen to be the first two
  • 00:23:44
    states you know that are casting theirs
  • 00:23:45
    what's what's Democratic about a caucus
  • 00:23:47
    right a bunch of people standing around
  • 00:23:48
    and raising their hand and doing you
  • 00:23:50
    know A's and n's like come on eyes and a
  • 00:23:52
    like no the idea that the primary
  • 00:23:53
    process is some holy Vanguard of
  • 00:23:55
    democracy um is silly when when it
  • 00:23:57
    historically uh you know over 100 years
  • 00:23:59
    ago I don't think parties had primaries
  • 00:24:01
    for candidates they literally just put a
  • 00:24:02
    candidate forward and we were closer in
  • 00:24:03
    time then to our founding fathers than
  • 00:24:04
    we are now so this idea that that we're
  • 00:24:08
    less Democratic because of how the
  • 00:24:10
    primary P these are private companies
  • 00:24:11
    they can put forth candidates however
  • 00:24:12
    they want if you don't like it don't
  • 00:24:13
    vote for it so okay I mean it's it's uh
  • 00:24:17
    if you're going to participate in a
  • 00:24:18
    democracy this is kind of like the
  • 00:24:20
    argument about um when certain companies
  • 00:24:23
    don't want to give services to certain
  • 00:24:24
    groups of people they don't like gays
  • 00:24:26
    for example so they don't want to sell
  • 00:24:27
    services Gaye what the Supreme Court
  • 00:24:30
    decides is if you're going to have an
  • 00:24:31
    open business to the public you have to
  • 00:24:33
    serve the public that is you can't just
  • 00:24:35
    decide just because you're a private
  • 00:24:37
    company that you're going to do things
  • 00:24:38
    your way there are certain rules to the
  • 00:24:40
    game there's got to be rules to the
  • 00:24:42
    Democratic game if you're going to
  • 00:24:43
    participate and make a corporation
  • 00:24:45
    that's going to be under that's going to
  • 00:24:46
    be uh participating in the marketplace
  • 00:24:48
    of democracy then you need to be
  • 00:24:51
    Democratic in the way that you operate
  • 00:24:53
    you can close your primaries to only
  • 00:24:55
    those who are registered voters but you
  • 00:24:57
    should be but typically what they're
  • 00:25:00
    supposed to be doing and what we think
  • 00:25:02
    they're supposed to do but of course the
  • 00:25:04
    legalities are a little bit different is
  • 00:25:05
    they are supposed to have primaries in
  • 00:25:06
    each state or caucuses and people are
  • 00:25:09
    allowed if they're es especially
  • 00:25:11
    registered for those parties to vote in
  • 00:25:13
    those primaries of course the state
  • 00:25:14
    doesn't really have to do that they
  • 00:25:16
    can't I mean the the the uh the parties
  • 00:25:18
    don't really have to do that they can as
  • 00:25:20
    you mentioned they are private companies
  • 00:25:22
    but just because they can get away with
  • 00:25:24
    these types of things does not mean that
  • 00:25:25
    we should allow it or uh or or condone
  • 00:25:29
    it in any way or say this is fine we're
  • 00:25:31
    okay with it we should never be okay
  • 00:25:33
    with the lack of
  • 00:25:35
    democracy when you say we should never
  • 00:25:37
    be okay with this so then for the like
  • 00:25:39
    for the wait wait wait wait real quick
  • 00:25:40
    for the 150 years or whatever that this
  • 00:25:41
    country didn't have primaries then were
  • 00:25:43
    we not have democracy then we just
  • 00:25:44
    became a democracy like a few decades
  • 00:25:46
    ago or whatever like what what this this
  • 00:25:48
    argument is nonsense I like primaries
  • 00:25:50
    have nothing to do with whether or not
  • 00:25:52
    you are a democracy how how you serve
  • 00:25:53
    the public has nothing to do with
  • 00:25:55
    whether or not a company is a democ like
  • 00:25:56
    this just it's a just this argument is
  • 00:25:58
    disconnected at every single level a
  • 00:26:00
    party can for the candidate however they
  • 00:26:01
    want yeah on this particular topic I
  • 00:26:04
    want to give Kim the last word and then
  • 00:26:06
    I do want to examine someone in the chat
  • 00:26:07
    said hey we really want to hear what you
  • 00:26:08
    guys both think on Camala in the economy
  • 00:26:11
    particularly go ahead Kim okay uh I
  • 00:26:14
    don't know what democracy is then if
  • 00:26:16
    democracy doesn't involve Grassroots
  • 00:26:19
    people voting for what they want to vote
  • 00:26:20
    for getting the candidates in that they
  • 00:26:22
    want to represent them getting the
  • 00:26:24
    policies in that they want to represent
  • 00:26:26
    them that to me is democracy and I think
  • 00:26:28
    that's the definition to most people so
  • 00:26:31
    to say that well it doesn't really
  • 00:26:32
    matter the democracy is you have the
  • 00:26:35
    right to vote you could just vote for
  • 00:26:37
    you could write somebody in who you know
  • 00:26:39
    will never ever win uh and and they've
  • 00:26:41
    just anointed a person is completely
  • 00:26:43
    antithetical to democracy I want to jump
  • 00:26:46
    into this Cala would Harris be a benefit
  • 00:26:49
    for the economy would this be maybe the
  • 00:26:52
    economy would just be sustained in other
  • 00:26:54
    words maintained at where it is or would
  • 00:26:55
    become worse what do you guys think
  • 00:26:59
    um I think that it's hard to predict
  • 00:27:01
    what a trump economy would look like
  • 00:27:02
    because Trump has given basically no
  • 00:27:04
    policy positions whatsoever um even
  • 00:27:07
    though Kamala is a bit to the left of me
  • 00:27:08
    I trust her on the economy more because
  • 00:27:10
    I think that Democrats tend to hold
  • 00:27:11
    their own accountable I think that
  • 00:27:13
    Democrats tend to put a little bit more
  • 00:27:14
    restraint if a candidate suggest
  • 00:27:15
    something crazy but Republicans are
  • 00:27:17
    completely and totally unable to hold
  • 00:27:18
    Trump accountable because the entire
  • 00:27:19
    party is obsessed with Donald Trump so
  • 00:27:21
    if Donald Trump says something insane
  • 00:27:23
    like he wants to put 10 or 20% tariffs
  • 00:27:25
    on every Import in the world uh the
  • 00:27:26
    entire Republican party is absolutely
  • 00:27:28
    silent on it because nobody can say
  • 00:27:30
    anything to counteract anything he says
  • 00:27:31
    because you know so Donald Trump is
  • 00:27:32
    going to try to bully them out of office
  • 00:27:33
    and turn them into a rhino and destroy
  • 00:27:34
    their career uh so I definitely trust
  • 00:27:37
    the Democrats more on economic policy
  • 00:27:38
    right now because Donald Trump is insane
  • 00:27:40
    I don't even know if he knows what a
  • 00:27:41
    tariff is and I haven't heard anything
  • 00:27:42
    very compelling from Donald Trump when
  • 00:27:43
    it comes to Economic
  • 00:27:45
    Policy I think we just look at where we
  • 00:27:48
    are right now as a as an economy we're
  • 00:27:50
    just definitely worse off we have much
  • 00:27:52
    higher inflation under Biden it has
  • 00:27:54
    reached a peak of
  • 00:27:55
    9% um under Donald Trump I believe that
  • 00:27:58
    the average inflation was about 1.8 so
  • 00:28:01
    it's a lot lower um we look at
  • 00:28:03
    unemployment and jobs um we can't the
  • 00:28:07
    covid pandemic we can't really count
  • 00:28:09
    that in it's unfair to say how many jobs
  • 00:28:11
    were lost during the pandemic and then
  • 00:28:13
    how many jobs were regained but now
  • 00:28:14
    we've leveled out we can look at where
  • 00:28:16
    we're at today in 2024 or even in 2023
  • 00:28:20
    comparatively to under Donald Trump in
  • 00:28:22
    2018 and 2019 and I think there's no
  • 00:28:24
    doubt that we are worse off economically
  • 00:28:27
    um by all all measurements today than we
  • 00:28:30
    were in 2018 or
  • 00:28:32
    2019 yeah there's this unfortunate
  • 00:28:34
    reality that every time a Democrat comes
  • 00:28:36
    in office we basically have to clean up
  • 00:28:37
    the insane disaster Left To Us by the
  • 00:28:39
    last Republican president uh when it was
  • 00:28:41
    Obama it was having to clean up the
  • 00:28:42
    disaster of the 2008 financial crisis
  • 00:28:45
    and when it was Biden it was trying to
  • 00:28:46
    clean up the disastrous response that
  • 00:28:47
    Trump had to covid so is the economy
  • 00:28:50
    worse off now than it was in like 2018 u
  • 00:28:53
    i mean it depends on which indicators or
  • 00:28:54
    which metrics you're looking at there
  • 00:28:55
    are definitely some things that are
  • 00:28:56
    harder inflation was definitely an issue
  • 00:28:57
    relating to co but one thing that I
  • 00:28:59
    noticed was curiously absent from Kim's
  • 00:29:02
    answer here was what is Trump going to
  • 00:29:03
    do about it there were no policy
  • 00:29:04
    positions given there were just
  • 00:29:05
    statements made about the state of the
  • 00:29:07
    economy Donald Trump did massive deficit
  • 00:29:09
    spending that of course would contribute
  • 00:29:11
    to the inflation that we felt a few
  • 00:29:12
    years later Donald Trump slashed taxes
  • 00:29:14
    he cut government revenue and he didn't
  • 00:29:16
    actually decrease any of the government
  • 00:29:17
    spending he ran the highest budget
  • 00:29:19
    deficits for no reason of any president
  • 00:29:21
    in all of history at least Biden could
  • 00:29:22
    say well I was dealing with Co I had to
  • 00:29:23
    do something Trump just ran massive
  • 00:29:25
    deficits because because he wanted to
  • 00:29:27
    because it was the popular thing to do
  • 00:29:28
    when the FED talked about raising rates
  • 00:29:29
    he tried to bully them on Twitter so
  • 00:29:31
    yeah of course anything with a
  • 00:29:32
    government that's willing to just spend
  • 00:29:33
    like crazy and reduce the amount of
  • 00:29:35
    money they take in of course the economy
  • 00:29:36
    is going to be booming but I mean yeah
  • 00:29:38
    what I mean what's yeah if you print a
  • 00:29:40
    ton of money you just give it to people
  • 00:29:41
    for no reason of course the economy is
  • 00:29:42
    going to be booming uh the only what
  • 00:29:44
    what are the policies that Donald Trump
  • 00:29:45
    is suggesting now that would help
  • 00:29:47
    Americans going forward and how and what
  • 00:29:49
    do we think about this tariff idea he
  • 00:29:51
    keeps saying 10% tariffs 20% tariffs on
  • 00:29:53
    everything how is that that just not
  • 00:29:54
    going to boost inflation even more yeah
  • 00:29:57
    I mean I'm not a fan of the Tariff idea
  • 00:29:59
    I don't I don't agreee with Donald Trump
  • 00:30:00
    on that but going back to Harris and
  • 00:30:02
    Harris's policies and whether or not uh
  • 00:30:05
    she has anything that's going to be
  • 00:30:06
    boosting the economy I mean to say that
  • 00:30:09
    the Democrats are here now cleaning up
  • 00:30:11
    Republicans mess it's an odd way to
  • 00:30:13
    clean it up um with record inflation and
  • 00:30:16
    we've got a a record now gig economy so
  • 00:30:19
    people are not able to get full-time
  • 00:30:20
    jobs with benefits they're instead
  • 00:30:22
    having to hustle having two three jobs
  • 00:30:24
    this is an odd way to clean up the mess
  • 00:30:27
    so if this is their idea of cleaning it
  • 00:30:29
    up I think most Americans agree that
  • 00:30:31
    they would like to see some change so
  • 00:30:33
    right maybe Trump uh it's unclear
  • 00:30:36
    exactly what maybe he would do to now
  • 00:30:39
    clean up Democrats mess but I think that
  • 00:30:41
    just the option for Change and
  • 00:30:44
    potentially the ability to lower
  • 00:30:46
    inflation to better the economy to
  • 00:30:48
    better Our Lives people I think are
  • 00:30:50
    willing to take that risk if it if if
  • 00:30:54
    the other if the alternative is more of
  • 00:30:55
    the same yeah I so I'll all I heard was
  • 00:30:58
    there was one Trump policy I've heard of
  • 00:31:00
    called tariffs and I don't like that and
  • 00:31:02
    I don't know what else he would do but
  • 00:31:03
    hopefully it would be better uh yeah
  • 00:31:05
    what I'm saying is that what did K what
  • 00:31:07
    exactly did Biden and Harris do that and
  • 00:31:10
    haris I mean they managed Co decently
  • 00:31:12
    well uh yeah there was inflation but
  • 00:31:14
    there was less inflation in the United
  • 00:31:16
    States compared to you know the oecd
  • 00:31:17
    compared to the G7 compared to like
  • 00:31:19
    every other Western country in the world
  • 00:31:20
    we're doing about better or we're doing
  • 00:31:22
    better than basically everybody else
  • 00:31:23
    right now yeah there was inflation there
  • 00:31:24
    was inflation worldwide Co was a huge
  • 00:31:26
    like worldwide stimulus given every
  • 00:31:28
    single country on the planet so of
  • 00:31:29
    course there's definitely going to be
  • 00:31:30
    inflation felt and Donald Trump didn't
  • 00:31:32
    do anything to help inflation why would
  • 00:31:33
    I think Donald Trump could help
  • 00:31:34
    inflation when he had a booming economy
  • 00:31:36
    and he didn't manage to cut the deficit
  • 00:31:38
    Donald Trump couldn't manage the budget
  • 00:31:40
    when the economy was exploding why would
  • 00:31:42
    I think he could manage the budget when
  • 00:31:43
    the economy is having trouble and now
  • 00:31:44
    you've got the FED actually announcing
  • 00:31:46
    that they're going to be cutting rates
  • 00:31:47
    because inflation has come under control
  • 00:31:49
    so it seems like the administration is
  • 00:31:50
    heading in the right direction why would
  • 00:31:52
    I trust Donald Trump whose only Economic
  • 00:31:53
    Policy he's put forth would increase
  • 00:31:55
    inflation which are tariffs why would I
  • 00:31:57
    trust him to do anything good
  • 00:31:58
    can you articulate like a single policy
  • 00:32:00
    that you think Trump would do that would
  • 00:32:01
    be good for the average American that
  • 00:32:02
    would actually help the economy well I
  • 00:32:04
    can tell you what he wouldn't have done
  • 00:32:05
    that Democrats did do that actually
  • 00:32:07
    crushed our economy that actually
  • 00:32:08
    crushed the economies around the world
  • 00:32:09
    during covid in particular and that was
  • 00:32:11
    government shutdowns that was Democrats
  • 00:32:15
    with their Democratic Governors and that
  • 00:32:17
    they were taking directives from top
  • 00:32:18
    down closing the economy of course when
  • 00:32:21
    you close the economy you're going to
  • 00:32:23
    end up with a lot of ramifications that
  • 00:32:25
    are going to be very damaging to an
  • 00:32:27
    economy and that is not something that
  • 00:32:28
    any Republican or Donald Trump advocated
  • 00:32:31
    for so I could tell you that yes the the
  • 00:32:33
    world economy everything was very bad
  • 00:32:36
    under Biden things have been bad with Co
  • 00:32:38
    I don't know exactly what you think they
  • 00:32:40
    did to clean up covid or to help during
  • 00:32:42
    that crisis when actually all of the
  • 00:32:44
    decisions in particular lockdowns have
  • 00:32:47
    led to massive disaster who do you think
  • 00:32:50
    was the president during the majority of
  • 00:32:51
    the
  • 00:32:52
    lockdowns who do you think actually
  • 00:32:54
    directed The lockdowns the Donald Trump
  • 00:32:57
    the was Donald Trump so Donald Trump was
  • 00:32:59
    the president during the majority elown
  • 00:33:01
    number one number two when you say what
  • 00:33:02
    did the Democrats do I mean we can look
  • 00:33:04
    at a ton of different things they had
  • 00:33:05
    the child tax credit something that Comm
  • 00:33:06
    Harris wants to bring back the child tax
  • 00:33:08
    credit slashed childhood poverty by like
  • 00:33:10
    what 50% 54% it was a huge boost to
  • 00:33:13
    Working Families uh what else did they
  • 00:33:15
    do Biden passed legislation to make
  • 00:33:16
    meaningful change and meaningful
  • 00:33:18
    investments in our ability to
  • 00:33:20
    manufacture microprocessors with the
  • 00:33:21
    chips the ability to reinvest in her
  • 00:33:23
    infrastructure um with the U with the
  • 00:33:25
    infrastructure Bill a bill that Donald
  • 00:33:26
    Trump wanted to get passed but he
  • 00:33:27
    couldn't four years that was here he
  • 00:33:28
    actually managed to pass a bill that
  • 00:33:30
    tried to offset the spending of the bill
  • 00:33:32
    with new tax receipts with the IRA the
  • 00:33:34
    um inflation reduction act I mean I mean
  • 00:33:36
    what didn't they do I mean the Democrats
  • 00:33:37
    tried their best and I think we've seen
  • 00:33:39
    the results of that the United States is
  • 00:33:40
    crushing the rest of the world due to
  • 00:33:42
    actual legislation that I can articulate
  • 00:33:44
    and actual policies that I can
  • 00:33:45
    articulate Donald Trump just rode off of
  • 00:33:47
    an economy that was already booming
  • 00:33:49
    under the last few years of Obama we've
  • 00:33:51
    been posting all-time highs in the S&P
  • 00:33:53
    500 and the Dow Jones for like for what
  • 00:33:55
    since I think 20 uh since like 2013 and
  • 00:33:58
    all Trump did was came in and he spent
  • 00:33:59
    spent spent spent spent more more more
  • 00:34:00
    more more and then bullied the FED when
  • 00:34:02
    they talked about raising rates because
  • 00:34:03
    they were getting worried about
  • 00:34:04
    inflation and then he again you can't
  • 00:34:05
    articulate a single policy or a single
  • 00:34:07
    thing that Donald Trump would do you're
  • 00:34:08
    mad at shutdowns that happened under
  • 00:34:10
    Donald I'm not arguing for Donald Trump
  • 00:34:11
    we're arguing against kamla Harris very
  • 00:34:13
    specifically I am not for Donald Trump
  • 00:34:15
    I'm not voting for Donald Trump let me
  • 00:34:16
    just make that extremely clear so I am
  • 00:34:18
    not arguing on behalf of Donald Trump
  • 00:34:20
    I'm arguing against comma Harris what we
  • 00:34:22
    know is that Democrats have done a very
  • 00:34:24
    piss poor job of actually managing the
  • 00:34:26
    economy we are by every single
  • 00:34:28
    measurement but we're better than every
  • 00:34:30
    other country we came out of coina we
  • 00:34:32
    came out of Co better off than every
  • 00:34:34
    other first world country how are we
  • 00:34:37
    better off we have now given away
  • 00:34:38
    boatloads of cash to Ukraine to Israel
  • 00:34:41
    we're giving away our money we are
  • 00:34:43
    that's a a drop in the bucket compared
  • 00:34:45
    to our budget yearly okay number one
  • 00:34:47
    number two uh how are we better off
  • 00:34:49
    we're crushing them on our job market
  • 00:34:51
    and our economy we're crushing them when
  • 00:34:53
    it comes to inflation the USD is
  • 00:34:55
    probably too shog right now for our
  • 00:34:56
    exports Market what do you mean how are
  • 00:34:58
    we we're crushing them in every way you
  • 00:35:00
    graduate with a computer science degree
  • 00:35:01
    in the United Kingdom and the first
  • 00:35:02
    thing you're trying to do is find a job
  • 00:35:03
    in the united stat you're trying to work
  • 00:35:04
    for Amazon you don't want to get paid
  • 00:35:06
    39,000 quid a year working as a
  • 00:35:09
    programmer in the united kingom what how
  • 00:35:10
    what do you mean how are we doing
  • 00:35:11
    compared to the rest of world how are we
  • 00:35:12
    beating we're beating them in like every
  • 00:35:13
    single conceivable way except for
  • 00:35:15
    domestically we're falling apart because
  • 00:35:17
    of conservatives refusal to accept
  • 00:35:18
    reality I think this conversation is a
  • 00:35:19
    good example of that um yeah I I the
  • 00:35:22
    Harris policies if they continue what
  • 00:35:23
    Biden was doing I think they put us on a
  • 00:35:24
    good track and it'd be cool to see what
  • 00:35:26
    you know Democrats can do when they're
  • 00:35:27
    not just trying to recover from the
  • 00:35:28
    disasters Left To Us by the last
  • 00:35:30
    Republican Administration so you're
  • 00:35:32
    arguing that you really believe that the
  • 00:35:34
    average American is better off today
  • 00:35:35
    than they were under Donald Trump I
  • 00:35:37
    don't know if they're better off today
  • 00:35:38
    than they were under Donald Trump but
  • 00:35:39
    that's because we had covid the question
  • 00:35:42
    isn't whether or not we were better off
  • 00:35:43
    today than we were four years ago
  • 00:35:44
    because we can't go back in time time
  • 00:35:46
    only Moves In One Direction the question
  • 00:35:48
    is is would we have been better off with
  • 00:35:49
    four more years of trump probably not I
  • 00:35:51
    don't think so there's zero indication
  • 00:35:53
    that that's the case and then the
  • 00:35:54
    question would be in the next four years
  • 00:35:55
    are we going to be better off with Trump
  • 00:35:56
    or with Harris and I see no reason there
  • 00:35:58
    wasn't Donald Trump couldn't pass any
  • 00:36:00
    big bills or any legislation even stuff
  • 00:36:02
    he said he wanted to get done he could
  • 00:36:03
    even repeal the ACA so he can control
  • 00:36:05
    any of his spending all he did was spend
  • 00:36:06
    spend spend Donald Trump's just and and
  • 00:36:09
    the major the only major policy platform
  • 00:36:10
    he's talking about are tariffs on
  • 00:36:12
    everything so why would I think Donald
  • 00:36:14
    Trump would be good the stock market is
  • 00:36:16
    posting all-time highs or unemployment
  • 00:36:17
    is still low the FED wants to cut rates
  • 00:36:18
    every economic indicator is looking
  • 00:36:20
    positive like I don't even know what to
  • 00:36:21
    say what what what could Donald Trump
  • 00:36:23
    possibly do what what's wrong with what
  • 00:36:24
    Harris wants to do what's wrong with
  • 00:36:27
    what Harris wants to do is just continue
  • 00:36:28
    where we're at right now which a lot of
  • 00:36:29
    Americans don't want to be in which is
  • 00:36:31
    high inflation inflation has come down
  • 00:36:33
    the FED wants to cut rates why would the
  • 00:36:34
    FED be talking about cutting rates if
  • 00:36:35
    inflation was still too high yeah it's a
  • 00:36:37
    good question why they want to cut rates
  • 00:36:39
    just weeks before an election it's
  • 00:36:40
    really a good question why they would
  • 00:36:42
    suddenly want to do that a record record
  • 00:36:44
    cut to the rates uh is the implication
  • 00:36:47
    that the Federal Reserve is beholden to
  • 00:36:49
    the Democratic party it's it's an
  • 00:36:51
    independent operation of banks what do
  • 00:36:52
    you mean what I I I mean we can do
  • 00:36:55
    establishment well they're they're
  • 00:36:56
    definitely beholding to the
  • 00:36:57
    establishment they're part of the
  • 00:36:58
    establishment and Harris is certainly
  • 00:36:59
    The Establishment candidate compared to
  • 00:37:00
    Donald Trump so I think they would have
  • 00:37:02
    a reason for wanting to maintain an
  • 00:37:04
    establishment candidate in the white
  • 00:37:06
    house um but when it comes to K hold on
  • 00:37:08
    to be clear what you're what you are
  • 00:37:10
    just blindly and conspirator suggesting
  • 00:37:13
    you know that's what Donald Trump like
  • 00:37:14
    actually tried to do right your
  • 00:37:16
    implication is that somehow the FED is
  • 00:37:17
    making political decisions you know that
  • 00:37:19
    Donald Trump was trying to force them to
  • 00:37:20
    make political decisions right then when
  • 00:37:22
    Donald Trump took the Twitter and and
  • 00:37:23
    took to the bully pulpit as the
  • 00:37:24
    president he was attacking the FED for
  • 00:37:27
    not for um for talking about raising
  • 00:37:29
    rates uh he was attacking the FED for
  • 00:37:30
    that that's what Donald Trump tried to
  • 00:37:32
    do what you're asserting with zero
  • 00:37:33
    evidence uh that Biden and Comm what do
  • 00:37:35
    you not believe the the inflation rates
  • 00:37:37
    that are being posted you think that's
  • 00:37:37
    all a lie so the Federal Reserve is just
  • 00:37:39
    acting on nothing and nobody in our
  • 00:37:40
    economy can see that or well don't you
  • 00:37:43
    think that it's interesting then if you
  • 00:37:44
    really believe and maybe you're right
  • 00:37:46
    that the FED completely operates
  • 00:37:48
    completely independently from any
  • 00:37:49
    political influence whatsoever the fact
  • 00:37:51
    that they feel like they need to do a
  • 00:37:53
    rate cut this big what does that tell
  • 00:37:55
    you things are not this is a very large
  • 00:37:58
    rate cut this is not it this is a large
  • 00:38:01
    rate cut they don't do just half a
  • 00:38:02
    percent a half a point out of nowhere
  • 00:38:04
    they usually do a quarter of a point not
  • 00:38:06
    a half a point that's actually quite a
  • 00:38:08
    large rate cut no for them to be doing
  • 00:38:10
    that right now shows that they believe
  • 00:38:12
    the economy is in Dire Straits under Joe
  • 00:38:14
    Biden and KLA Harris that they have to
  • 00:38:16
    take drastic measures in order to
  • 00:38:18
    correct it no that hold on I'm why are
  • 00:38:22
    they doing it do you think what what are
  • 00:38:24
    the two things that the Federal Reserve
  • 00:38:25
    try to try to manage
  • 00:38:28
    why don't you tell me okay the so you
  • 00:38:30
    don't know okay the Federal Reserve
  • 00:38:31
    tries to balance unemployment and they
  • 00:38:33
    try to balance inflation okay these are
  • 00:38:35
    the two indicators that the Federal
  • 00:38:36
    Reserve looks at to determine how they
  • 00:38:38
    should set rates if inflation is getting
  • 00:38:40
    really really really low then the
  • 00:38:41
    Federal Reserve is going to cut rates
  • 00:38:43
    because we should have some amount of
  • 00:38:44
    inflation to keep the economy healthy
  • 00:38:46
    and moving that's how the Federal
  • 00:38:47
    Reserve makes decisions and then it also
  • 00:38:48
    looks at unemployment if unemployment is
  • 00:38:49
    getting uh you know too high um then
  • 00:38:51
    they might cut rates as it just depends
  • 00:38:53
    like these are the two but but balancing
  • 00:38:54
    out unemployment and inflation are the
  • 00:38:56
    two that's the mission statement of the
  • 00:38:57
    the Federal Reserve how could you accuse
  • 00:38:59
    you know the Federal Reserve of acting
  • 00:39:01
    in a politically partisan way you don't
  • 00:39:02
    even know what the mission of the
  • 00:39:02
    Federal Reserve is you're just you're
  • 00:39:04
    just saying random things dropping that
  • 00:39:06
    accusation I'm dropping that accusation
  • 00:39:07
    I'm asking you why did why did they do
  • 00:39:09
    the rate cut because because they feel
  • 00:39:10
    like inflation has come down
  • 00:39:11
    significantly um so they want to boost
  • 00:39:13
    it back up
  • 00:39:17
    yes you think that's exactly why they so
  • 00:39:19
    they did a rate cut because they want
  • 00:39:21
    inflation what do you think the goal
  • 00:39:22
    inflation percentage is you have no idea
  • 00:39:24
    you realize you have no idea you're
  • 00:39:25
    laughing because you think inflation
  • 00:39:26
    should be at 0% ideal inflation is what
  • 00:39:28
    do you think unemployment should be 0%
  • 00:39:30
    yes correct 2% is a target that's
  • 00:39:32
    correct and if they feel like we're UND
  • 00:39:33
    shooting that Target then they try to
  • 00:39:35
    preemptively cut rates or raise rates
  • 00:39:36
    because it takes a little bit for the
  • 00:39:38
    Federal Reserve policy for the federal
  • 00:39:39
    funds rate to actually impact with the
  • 00:39:41
    trading of all the Securities and
  • 00:39:42
    everything isse later on so yes that's
  • 00:39:43
    why they're doing it we can all look at
  • 00:39:44
    the inflation rate we can all look at
  • 00:39:45
    the unemployment these numbers are all
  • 00:39:46
    posted publicly and everybody looks at
  • 00:39:48
    them so I mean so the economy is so
  • 00:39:50
    great so you're just saying the economy
  • 00:39:52
    is great you want to keep it going the
  • 00:39:53
    way that it is I didn't say the economy
  • 00:39:54
    they don't look at the economy they look
  • 00:39:56
    at inflation and look at
  • 00:39:58
    unemployment which are indicators of the
  • 00:40:01
    economy and how healthy the economy is
  • 00:40:03
    they could be they might not be it just
  • 00:40:04
    depends there they are two indicators
  • 00:40:07
    but the the goal of the Federal Reserve
  • 00:40:09
    is not to make the economy good or make
  • 00:40:10
    the economy bad the two indicators that
  • 00:40:12
    they look at are inflation and
  • 00:40:14
    unemployment those are the two things
  • 00:40:16
    that they're yeah but you're arguing
  • 00:40:17
    that you think that the economy under
  • 00:40:19
    kamla Harris and Joe Biden right now is
  • 00:40:21
    great and that we should just continue
  • 00:40:22
    on and that Americans are going to be
  • 00:40:24
    fine give you a chance to respond
  • 00:40:26
    Stephen but then I do want to jump into
  • 00:40:27
    a new topic because we're going to go
  • 00:40:29
    into Q&A about 15 minutes or so sure um
  • 00:40:32
    yes I think obviously I think I can I've
  • 00:40:35
    articulated policy I've articulated
  • 00:40:37
    economic positions I've articulated uh
  • 00:40:39
    how the economy has rebounded under Co
  • 00:40:41
    I've articulated that the United States
  • 00:40:43
    is ahead of the rest of the oecd um yeah
  • 00:40:46
    every indicator points to the fact that
  • 00:40:47
    this Administration did a phenomenal job
  • 00:40:49
    coming out of covid for sure and the
  • 00:40:51
    major complaint that you had the two
  • 00:40:53
    major complaints I would guess would be
  • 00:40:54
    like massive deficit spending and then
  • 00:40:56
    the one that you are taking ated which
  • 00:40:57
    was lockdowns all happened under Donald
  • 00:40:59
    Trump so yeah I do think that the Harris
  • 00:41:01
    Administration would be superior to
  • 00:41:02
    whatever the Republicans put up want to
  • 00:41:04
    give stepen the last word this time and
  • 00:41:06
    then I want to go into the next topic
  • 00:41:07
    which is Cala On the Border who would be
  • 00:41:10
    better for the Border Kamala or an
  • 00:41:12
    alternative what do you guys
  • 00:41:16
    think uh do you want to go first again
  • 00:41:18
    or you're arguing for Harris right yeah
  • 00:41:21
    Kamala would be better on the border
  • 00:41:23
    because we've already seen Biden and the
  • 00:41:24
    Democrats try to put up a border bill
  • 00:41:26
    that would address a lot of the Border
  • 00:41:27
    problems
  • 00:41:27
    uh this bill was a republican authored
  • 00:41:29
    bill it was by lenford in the Senate
  • 00:41:31
    they tried to put it up and Donald Trump
  • 00:41:32
    wanted the Republicans to vote it down
  • 00:41:34
    because he wanted to keep the Border
  • 00:41:35
    open in order to run an election issue
  • 00:41:37
    so the idea that the idea that the
  • 00:41:39
    Republicans would try to destroy the
  • 00:41:41
    border for politically advantageous
  • 00:41:43
    reasons is the only thing that I need to
  • 00:41:45
    know to say that I would never trust
  • 00:41:46
    these guys with any type of security
  • 00:41:48
    issue because clearly the them winning
  • 00:41:50
    political battles is more important than
  • 00:41:52
    them actually securing the border which
  • 00:41:53
    we might see coming up soon with the
  • 00:41:54
    with the budget but yeah they've had
  • 00:41:56
    four years years so even if there is
  • 00:41:58
    some interference that happens closer to
  • 00:42:00
    an election they've had four years to do
  • 00:42:01
    something about the Border but instead
  • 00:42:04
    their policies have led to a massive
  • 00:42:07
    wave of people coming through the border
  • 00:42:09
    and they have laughed it off they have
  • 00:42:11
    Shrugged off border issues since Donald
  • 00:42:13
    Trump was elected in 2016 they claimed
  • 00:42:16
    it was a conspiracy theory they chose to
  • 00:42:19
    do nothing about it and now it has
  • 00:42:21
    gotten so bad that they've realized that
  • 00:42:24
    their own rhetoric their own policies
  • 00:42:26
    have led to a severe crisis that even
  • 00:42:28
    they can no longer ignore and they're
  • 00:42:30
    now having to finally do something about
  • 00:42:32
    it but part of the Border part of the
  • 00:42:34
    reason why we have this border crisis is
  • 00:42:36
    because Democrats over the last eight
  • 00:42:38
    years refused to do anything about it
  • 00:42:40
    until now it's just so big of an issue
  • 00:42:42
    that even Democratic Governors and
  • 00:42:44
    Mayors are screaming please help
  • 00:42:46
    something is this is this has gone wrong
  • 00:42:48
    and we really have to do something about
  • 00:42:50
    it they let the problem get so bad
  • 00:42:52
    because they were trying to score
  • 00:42:53
    political points all of these years that
  • 00:42:55
    we're now where we're at to where they
  • 00:42:56
    have to actually something about it so I
  • 00:42:58
    think just on the merits kamla Harris
  • 00:43:00
    and Joe Biden but Harris specifically
  • 00:43:02
    going forward as president the fact that
  • 00:43:04
    she ignored these these issues for so
  • 00:43:07
    long claiming that it was just some sort
  • 00:43:09
    of a trump talking point or AA talking
  • 00:43:11
    point to let it get to this bad just
  • 00:43:13
    goes to show that this is not a serious
  • 00:43:15
    person who's really truly looking to
  • 00:43:16
    solve America's problems this is
  • 00:43:18
    somebody who's actually looking to score
  • 00:43:19
    political points the very thing that
  • 00:43:21
    you're actually accusing them the
  • 00:43:22
    Republicans of
  • 00:43:24
    doing uh yeah I I mean that we had four
  • 00:43:28
    years of Donald Trump where's our
  • 00:43:29
    immigration Bill where's our border Bill
  • 00:43:31
    where's the wall Trump did nothing he
  • 00:43:33
    had both house of Congress and Trump did
  • 00:43:35
    absolutely nothing about the Border uh
  • 00:43:37
    you it's funny because Trump says I ran
  • 00:43:39
    on immigration because I you know we had
  • 00:43:41
    problems with the wall that's not true
  • 00:43:42
    even on Trump's own little stupid chart
  • 00:43:43
    that he posts Obama was posting better
  • 00:43:45
    immigration numbers than than he was so
  • 00:43:48
    Obama was doing better than Trump on
  • 00:43:49
    immigration Trump wants to say it's not
  • 00:43:50
    fair to count the last year or two uh
  • 00:43:52
    you know of my administration because Co
  • 00:43:53
    messed everything up but he sure does
  • 00:43:54
    want to take credit for the lowered
  • 00:43:56
    immigration numbers under Co and then
  • 00:43:58
    you saw them start to spike back up even
  • 00:43:59
    though he allowed on his chart for when
  • 00:44:01
    you know he was actually out of office
  • 00:44:02
    they were spiking up um almost to
  • 00:44:04
    alltime highs right before he left
  • 00:44:05
    office so clearly Donald Trump wasn't
  • 00:44:07
    capable of managing anything the border
  • 00:44:08
    and when Democrats did want to pass
  • 00:44:09
    something to manage the issue at the
  • 00:44:11
    border uh the the Republicans blocked it
  • 00:44:13
    it was a it was a good bill it would
  • 00:44:14
    have helped a lot with the Asylum
  • 00:44:15
    process it would have provided more
  • 00:44:16
    funding for Border agents it would have
  • 00:44:17
    provided more funding for Asylum uh
  • 00:44:19
    judges to to process people that were
  • 00:44:20
    here for Asylum claims like everything
  • 00:44:21
    about that bill was good and the
  • 00:44:22
    Republicans blocked it so yeah again
  • 00:44:25
    it's it's like a policy thing like what
  • 00:44:27
    is Donald Trump going to do about the
  • 00:44:28
    border the border and why would I think
  • 00:44:29
    that Donald Trump could do whatever he
  • 00:44:31
    says he's going to do when he can't
  • 00:44:32
    articulate any plans whatsoever and he
  • 00:44:34
    couldn't do it in the four years that he
  • 00:44:35
    was President where is my immigration
  • 00:44:36
    Bill where's my border Bill where's my
  • 00:44:38
    wall for my four years of Donald Trump
  • 00:44:40
    well Democrats blocked all of that
  • 00:44:41
    because theying the Republicans have the
  • 00:44:43
    house and the Senate you can't use ex
  • 00:44:45
    they didn't have enough of a majority
  • 00:44:46
    they didn't have enough of a majority
  • 00:44:47
    and they they need more they needed some
  • 00:44:49
    bipartisan support Democrats instead of
  • 00:44:51
    even taking this situation seriously
  • 00:44:53
    laughed at it scoffed at it mocked it
  • 00:44:56
    claimed it was was some sort of
  • 00:44:57
    political talking point when it was an
  • 00:44:58
    actual real problem and now it's gotten
  • 00:45:01
    so bad that Democrats now want to
  • 00:45:02
    finally do something about it something
  • 00:45:03
    that Republicans have been wanting to do
  • 00:45:05
    for the last eight years and Democrats
  • 00:45:06
    want to pass a bill and then take credit
  • 00:45:08
    for it I don't blame the Republicans for
  • 00:45:10
    wanting for wanting to block that to
  • 00:45:12
    score political points at this juncture
  • 00:45:14
    when they know that this is something
  • 00:45:15
    Democrats have been blocking for the
  • 00:45:17
    last eight years now finally Democrats
  • 00:45:19
    are on board now finally Democrats see
  • 00:45:20
    that there's an actual real problem but
  • 00:45:22
    they only want to do that now that
  • 00:45:24
    Democratic Governors and Mayors have
  • 00:45:25
    been screaming saying we can't handle
  • 00:45:27
    this there's a massive influx and you
  • 00:45:29
    guys have been ignoring it and treating
  • 00:45:30
    it like it's some sort of a racist
  • 00:45:32
    policy to secure the the the southern
  • 00:45:35
    border so you know at the reason why
  • 00:45:37
    Donald Trump was unable to get anything
  • 00:45:39
    through was because Democrats continue
  • 00:45:40
    to use it as a talking point as a
  • 00:45:42
    campaign Point making it about racism
  • 00:45:44
    rather than a real problem and here we
  • 00:45:46
    are today I don't trust Democrats to fix
  • 00:45:48
    something when they have been the ones
  • 00:45:50
    blocking it for the last eight years
  • 00:45:52
    okay well I mean you just gave me every
  • 00:45:53
    reason in the world never to vote for
  • 00:45:54
    Trump on this issue because you just
  • 00:45:55
    admitted that Donald Trump do it without
  • 00:45:57
    a super majority I guess in the house
  • 00:45:59
    and the Senate which he will never have
  • 00:46:00
    so I automatically know that no matter
  • 00:46:01
    what Donald Trump will never be able to
  • 00:46:03
    get anything passed and so then I have
  • 00:46:04
    to look at Harris and I have to look at
  • 00:46:06
    Biden and when Biden and Harris were
  • 00:46:07
    supporting this bill they actually did
  • 00:46:09
    have support in the house and the Senate
  • 00:46:11
    the only reason that it wasn't passed is
  • 00:46:12
    because Donald Trump the cancer rotting
  • 00:46:14
    our country came in from the outside and
  • 00:46:15
    said don't pass this bill I need to be
  • 00:46:17
    able to talk about Haitians eating dogs
  • 00:46:18
    and whatever other nonsense I want to
  • 00:46:19
    make up in order to to actually be able
  • 00:46:21
    to win the next election so it seems
  • 00:46:23
    like there was a bill under the
  • 00:46:24
    Democrats that was ready to pass with
  • 00:46:26
    support from the legisl it just didn't
  • 00:46:27
    because of Donald Trump and under Donald
  • 00:46:29
    Trump there were no bills because Donald
  • 00:46:30
    Trump can't make deals with anybody and
  • 00:46:33
    the fact that he needs a super majority
  • 00:46:34
    in both hals of Congress to pass
  • 00:46:35
    anything is a bigger indictment against
  • 00:46:37
    his leadership than probably anything I
  • 00:46:38
    could have said on my own well I think
  • 00:46:40
    that you just made the argument the same
  • 00:46:41
    exact argument but against the Democrats
  • 00:46:43
    because if Democrats uh if a few
  • 00:46:46
    Democrats a handful of Democrats the
  • 00:46:48
    need for a super majority is what block
  • 00:46:50
    Republicans how pathetic is it that one
  • 00:46:52
    man was able to stop
  • 00:46:55
    Democrats this might be
  • 00:46:58
    yeah sure I why it wasn't one it was one
  • 00:47:00
    man telling all the lawmakers not to
  • 00:47:02
    vote for the yeah it's power there I
  • 00:47:04
    guess he's sitting there wielding his
  • 00:47:06
    power against the Democrats I can't get
  • 00:47:07
    anything done because of Donald Trump
  • 00:47:09
    true that's Colts are very powerful
  • 00:47:10
    their leaders you know have they wield a
  • 00:47:12
    lot of power that is how dictators work
  • 00:47:13
    yes this might be a good opportunity we
  • 00:47:16
    one last topic Harris on crime what are
  • 00:47:20
    your
  • 00:47:22
    thoughts um for for Crime stuff it's
  • 00:47:25
    kind of hard on the Federal because I
  • 00:47:27
    feel like crime is a thing that's
  • 00:47:28
    typically dealt with at the city and
  • 00:47:30
    state level I really don't know how much
  • 00:47:32
    influence uh anybody can have on the
  • 00:47:33
    federal level when it comes to enforcing
  • 00:47:36
    things relating to Crime um I do know
  • 00:47:39
    that you know if I can look at like
  • 00:47:40
    direct actions that people take like the
  • 00:47:41
    mobilization of things like the National
  • 00:47:43
    Guard I know that Donald Trump was in
  • 00:47:44
    charge of the National Guard on January
  • 00:47:46
    6th and he decided not to deploy them
  • 00:47:47
    for political reasons uh so I don't know
  • 00:47:49
    why I would trust that guy who will
  • 00:47:51
    allow some crime to happen as long as
  • 00:47:52
    it's advantageous to him uh I I don't
  • 00:47:54
    know if I would ever trust that guy in
  • 00:47:55
    managing anything related to crime crime
  • 00:47:57
    I also don't think I trust Trump on
  • 00:47:58
    anything that he says for Crime because
  • 00:47:59
    I know that for instance when uh walls
  • 00:48:01
    was dealing with uh BLM stuff in his
  • 00:48:04
    State Donald Trump had a lot of nice
  • 00:48:06
    things to say about him but as soon as
  • 00:48:06
    he was running for a president again and
  • 00:48:08
    walls was made the VP pick all of a
  • 00:48:10
    sudden Donald Trump hated everything
  • 00:48:11
    that he did so I don't know if I could
  • 00:48:12
    trust anything on Trump when it comes to
  • 00:48:13
    crime and again I would challenge I'd
  • 00:48:15
    love to hear a single position
  • 00:48:17
    articulated that Donald Trump has talked
  • 00:48:18
    about that would help anything related
  • 00:48:19
    to crime in the United States but again
  • 00:48:21
    I don't know what the president the
  • 00:48:22
    federal like president can do in regards
  • 00:48:24
    to crime
  • 00:48:26
    think that when it looks when we look
  • 00:48:28
    back at just even kamla Harris's record
  • 00:48:30
    on crime as a prosecutor she has a mixed
  • 00:48:33
    Record She Democrats in general have
  • 00:48:35
    been very LAX on crime they have
  • 00:48:37
    advocated for LAX criminal uh policies
  • 00:48:41
    there was a lot of defund the police
  • 00:48:43
    chatter there was a lot of uh you know
  • 00:48:46
    bail out the people that committed crime
  • 00:48:48
    during the black lives matter protests
  • 00:48:50
    and funds that were created uh
  • 00:48:52
    Democratic policies across various
  • 00:48:55
    different states have allowed for
  • 00:48:56
    criminal activity I live in the state of
  • 00:48:58
    California they allow now a certain
  • 00:49:00
    amount of criminal activity to go
  • 00:49:02
    completely um to completely overlooked I
  • 00:49:05
    think I agree that I'm not sure what the
  • 00:49:07
    president can really do I mean the
  • 00:49:08
    president doesn't really even have much
  • 00:49:11
    on like when it comes to tax policies
  • 00:49:14
    for example that has to be done through
  • 00:49:15
    Congress or even the Border policies
  • 00:49:17
    have to be passed by Congress there's
  • 00:49:19
    very little a president themselves can
  • 00:49:21
    actually do without an act of Congress
  • 00:49:24
    but when it comes to Crime these are
  • 00:49:26
    more about I think the policies of the
  • 00:49:29
    the platform of the party and Democrats
  • 00:49:32
    as a party have run on we want to allow
  • 00:49:36
    more criminal activity essentially or
  • 00:49:38
    certain things are not really crimes
  • 00:49:39
    when they really are so I think the
  • 00:49:41
    entire messaging of the democratic party
  • 00:49:43
    which is of course led by now kamla
  • 00:49:46
    Harris is one that is not Tough Enough
  • 00:49:48
    on crime when interestingly kamla Harris
  • 00:49:51
    though has a very mixed record when she
  • 00:49:53
    was a prosecutor she was known for being
  • 00:49:54
    quite tough on crime
  • 00:49:57
    yeah I don't know if I would trust a guy
  • 00:49:58
    who's a 34 convicted felon 34 felon
  • 00:50:01
    convicted felon who the the biggest
  • 00:50:03
    engagement that he has with law
  • 00:50:04
    enforcement is or crime related stuff I
  • 00:50:06
    guess is giving pardons to literally
  • 00:50:08
    every single friend that he has uh who
  • 00:50:10
    has been convicted on crimes uh some
  • 00:50:11
    people that are very very hard to excuse
  • 00:50:14
    his pardons for so yeah I just I
  • 00:50:15
    wouldn't trust Trump on anything related
  • 00:50:17
    to Crime I think people are more
  • 00:50:18
    concerned about actual violent crime and
  • 00:50:21
    theft rather than white collar crime so
  • 00:50:23
    even if what was Occupy Wall Street
  • 00:50:26
    about
  • 00:50:27
    that was something people were obviously
  • 00:50:28
    very concerned about at the time but now
  • 00:50:30
    we're in a different era you're talking
  • 00:50:32
    about another decade uh or 15 years and
  • 00:50:35
    here we are with violent crime rampant
  • 00:50:37
    in the streets we've got people being
  • 00:50:38
    able to steal uh inside you know theft
  • 00:50:41
    up to
  • 00:50:42
    $900 at a local Walgreens is legalized
  • 00:50:46
    so there's a lot of crime happening that
  • 00:50:48
    are really truly affecting people
  • 00:50:50
    they're afraid and it's the defund the
  • 00:50:53
    police movement was very much part of
  • 00:50:55
    the reason why police forces are not
  • 00:50:57
    stacked enough with enough staff to
  • 00:50:59
    handle this rise and violent crime why
  • 00:51:00
    is there violent crime by the way
  • 00:51:02
    because of inflation when the economy
  • 00:51:04
    sucks crime goes
  • 00:51:07
    up uh yeah I I don't even I not even
  • 00:51:11
    sure if um I think like violent crime I
  • 00:51:13
    think is lower now I think than it was
  • 00:51:15
    even at the lowest I'm pretty sure it is
  • 00:51:17
    um I know that for they lied on the
  • 00:51:19
    statistics it's not lower they Li on the
  • 00:51:22
    STA St well if you're only going to
  • 00:51:24
    collect stats from some States from a
  • 00:51:26
    handful of States rather than all of
  • 00:51:28
    them then you can claim that they're
  • 00:51:30
    lower or if you actually change the
  • 00:51:31
    definition of crime and you say that
  • 00:51:33
    stealing up to $900 is not criminal or
  • 00:51:36
    if people are not reporting say stealing
  • 00:51:37
    up to $900 is not criminal are you
  • 00:51:39
    talking about stealing up to $900 is
  • 00:51:40
    counted as a felony or that it was just
  • 00:51:42
    a misdemeanor or that c like are you
  • 00:51:44
    saying that you can just steal I'm
  • 00:51:45
    pretty sure what you're talking about is
  • 00:51:46
    people classifying different amounts of
  • 00:51:47
    theft uh the difference between it being
  • 00:51:49
    a felony and a misdemeanor I don't think
  • 00:51:50
    that it being not a crime at all is is
  • 00:51:51
    real I think you just made that
  • 00:51:53
    up you can look it up here in California
  • 00:51:56
    you can steal up to a certain amount and
  • 00:51:58
    you're not going to even the you if you
  • 00:51:59
    call the cops they're not going to show
  • 00:52:01
    up so it doesn't matter what you these
  • 00:52:03
    are two different things right like
  • 00:52:04
    calling the cops and them not showing up
  • 00:52:06
    or not having enough people to uh you
  • 00:52:08
    know why why are there why aren't there
  • 00:52:10
    enough
  • 00:52:11
    cops I don't know why there aren't
  • 00:52:13
    enough workers for anything right now
  • 00:52:15
    what do you mean we're unemployment is
  • 00:52:16
    incredibly low we're looking for workers
  • 00:52:17
    in literally every single field we also
  • 00:52:18
    don't have enough nurses or doctors had
  • 00:52:20
    something to do with that no because in
  • 00:52:22
    most of the states where they tried
  • 00:52:23
    defund the police it was a [ __ ]
  • 00:52:24
    disaster and they ended up rolling back
  • 00:52:25
    basically all of those policies yeah
  • 00:52:27
    well they can't get those cops back they
  • 00:52:29
    already left so now trying to rehire
  • 00:52:30
    them back has led to a a decrease in the
  • 00:52:33
    police forces they're not going after a
  • 00:52:36
    lot of crimes you call the police you're
  • 00:52:39
    going to be waiting on hold for a couple
  • 00:52:40
    of hours unless it's an active violent
  • 00:52:43
    crime that's happening to you right then
  • 00:52:44
    and there it is a disaster at this point
  • 00:52:47
    so this is how the police have always
  • 00:52:49
    worked yes unfortunately it sucks but if
  • 00:52:52
    you I remember when I had [ __ ] stolen
  • 00:52:54
    from me when I was in [ __ ] high
  • 00:52:56
    school uh yeah if you call the cops like
  • 00:52:58
    unless you're actually getting murdered
  • 00:52:59
    right now the cops will tell you like
  • 00:53:00
    Hey listen uh come down to the station
  • 00:53:02
    we'll file a report and we can take some
  • 00:53:03
    notes on the phone and that's it you're
  • 00:53:04
    never going to hear again if some [ __ ]
  • 00:53:05
    gets stolen from you you're lucky if
  • 00:53:06
    your car gets reported to you maybe if
  • 00:53:08
    it shows up at the right tow yard and
  • 00:53:09
    they run the VIN and they give you a
  • 00:53:10
    call or whatever but yeah cops don't
  • 00:53:12
    have time to investigate every single
  • 00:53:13
    petty crime that ever happens usually
  • 00:53:15
    the priority is going to be responding
  • 00:53:16
    Violet crime but that's always I mean
  • 00:53:17
    would it be nice to increase funding to
  • 00:53:19
    police yeah for sure but I mean cities
  • 00:53:20
    only have so much money uh you know
  • 00:53:22
    there are different motives that are
  • 00:53:25
    pushing people in different ways but the
  • 00:53:26
    a that you know it well we just want to
  • 00:53:28
    make it legal to steal stuff like what
  • 00:53:29
    like what would even be the incentive
  • 00:53:30
    for that like we're going to make it
  • 00:53:32
    legal so people can steal things so that
  • 00:53:33
    we can piss all of our citizens off and
  • 00:53:34
    lose our elections and
  • 00:53:36
    like like did California even do defund
  • 00:53:39
    the police like was that even a huge
  • 00:53:40
    thing like was police was funding for
  • 00:53:42
    police in California ever even a thing
  • 00:53:43
    like the reduction of funding for police
  • 00:53:45
    in California that ever even happened
  • 00:53:47
    yeah I want to give you a chance to
  • 00:53:48
    respond Kim and then we got a have one
  • 00:53:50
    last topic before the Q&A I mean once
  • 00:53:52
    again the messaging of Democrats so it's
  • 00:53:55
    the the messaging of Democrats has been
  • 00:53:57
    looked the other way defund the police
  • 00:53:59
    violent crime is not a real thing
  • 00:54:01
    claiming that violent crime isn't up
  • 00:54:03
    when in fact they're changing the
  • 00:54:04
    definitions and manipulating the
  • 00:54:06
    statistics in order to have it favor
  • 00:54:08
    themselves just like they do when they
  • 00:54:09
    say racism's up uh claims of racism are
  • 00:54:13
    up because they change the definition of
  • 00:54:14
    what is racism in order to collect more
  • 00:54:16
    people as you know the these statistics
  • 00:54:20
    statistics and lies right whatever the
  • 00:54:22
    whatever the the the phrase is but it's
  • 00:54:25
    they've definitely been able to
  • 00:54:26
    manipulate them crime is up and they're
  • 00:54:29
    not doing anything about it Democrats
  • 00:54:31
    have actively campaigned against doing
  • 00:54:34
    anything about it with defund the police
  • 00:54:36
    so most of the stats that I see for a
  • 00:54:38
    violent crime are show that violent
  • 00:54:39
    crime is down now even compared to where
  • 00:54:41
    it was under the Trump Administration
  • 00:54:43
    but I guess we're changing some
  • 00:54:43
    definitions I do think it's interesting
  • 00:54:45
    looking at a PE research poll that shows
  • 00:54:47
    that Republicans are far more concerned
  • 00:54:49
    with crime than Democrats are which is
  • 00:54:51
    interesting to me because I would
  • 00:54:52
    imagine most of the big cities where the
  • 00:54:53
    crime is occurring are where Democrats
  • 00:54:54
    live so I don't know if it's just
  • 00:54:55
    Republican that are you know sitting in
  • 00:54:57
    Suburbia watching TV that think that
  • 00:54:59
    violent crime is a huge issue that
  • 00:55:00
    they're not even experiencing that's
  • 00:55:02
    interesting me that uh from on in 2024
  • 00:55:05
    68% of Republicans think that crime
  • 00:55:07
    should be a top priority as opposed to
  • 00:55:08
    47% of Democrats that are probably more
  • 00:55:10
    likely to live in cities or big crime
  • 00:55:12
    areas so kind of makes me think that
  • 00:55:13
    it's just a talking point coming from
  • 00:55:14
    the radio that people aren't actually
  • 00:55:16
    engaging in reality with at least for
  • 00:55:17
    the Republican side here but again that
  • 00:55:18
    was my central concern at the very
  • 00:55:21
    beginning this might be a good
  • 00:55:22
    opportunity to jump into the Q&A one
  • 00:55:25
    question coming in from Otto is from
  • 00:55:28
    Ukraine say don't you guys think it is
  • 00:55:30
    impressive that you guys started
  • 00:55:31
    realizing the scale of Russian influence
  • 00:55:33
    only now you are 15 years too late this
  • 00:55:36
    might be also an issue in terms of
  • 00:55:39
    Kamala on foreign policy but give each a
  • 00:55:42
    chance to respond to this yeah Russian
  • 00:55:44
    intrusion is obviously a huge problem in
  • 00:55:46
    our country it has been for 10 years but
  • 00:55:48
    again conservatives are literally brain
  • 00:55:49
    broken on this topic and they cannot
  • 00:55:51
    engage with it whatsoever and they would
  • 00:55:52
    rather Screech and scream about the
  • 00:55:54
    hooknose guy running apack than they
  • 00:55:55
    would about ual people in other
  • 00:55:57
    countries that are trying to destroy the
  • 00:55:59
    United States and our ability to have
  • 00:56:00
    any kind of discourse here uh you've
  • 00:56:02
    seen it with Bots that are spread like
  • 00:56:03
    crazy across Twitter um you've seen it
  • 00:56:05
    recently with the indictments that came
  • 00:56:06
    out over ten media you saw it with the
  • 00:56:07
    mher indictments for the internet
  • 00:56:08
    research agency and all of the other
  • 00:56:10
    social media accounts that he exposed U
  • 00:56:12
    yeah we've seen it over and over and
  • 00:56:13
    over and over again but again as soon as
  • 00:56:14
    you bring up Russia people's minds on
  • 00:56:16
    the conservative side you immediately
  • 00:56:17
    you know break in half yeah we spent
  • 00:56:19
    about 32 million on that mher
  • 00:56:21
    investigation that didn't actually
  • 00:56:23
    result in any sort of Russian
  • 00:56:24
    interference or meddling in our
  • 00:56:26
    elections um they instead uncovered
  • 00:56:28
    people that maybe weren't exactly honest
  • 00:56:32
    to Congress so there was some
  • 00:56:33
    obstruction of justice or um lying under
  • 00:56:37
    oath that they ended up getting people
  • 00:56:39
    for but we really haven't actually gone
  • 00:56:42
    and found this massive Russian
  • 00:56:44
    interference in our elections are you
  • 00:56:47
    hold on wait wait wait wait wait do do
  • 00:56:49
    you do you think that any indictments
  • 00:56:51
    came from the Muller investigation like
  • 00:56:53
    I said the indictments that came were
  • 00:56:55
    any of them because of Russian medling
  • 00:56:57
    that there was actual direct Russian who
  • 00:56:59
    who was indicted for Russian medaling
  • 00:57:00
    there were 12 indictments made for
  • 00:57:02
    Russian Nationals that ran a company the
  • 00:57:04
    United States called the internet
  • 00:57:05
    research agency that came from the
  • 00:57:06
    Muller investigations and the Muller
  • 00:57:08
    investigation concluded that they didn't
  • 00:57:10
    really have much of an influence
  • 00:57:12
    no true at all there was any real true
  • 00:57:15
    influence in our elections that's great
  • 00:57:18
    we just make stuff up but hold on to be
  • 00:57:19
    clear wa how much money do we was waste
  • 00:57:21
    on the Hillary email investigation how
  • 00:57:23
    much money do we waste on the Benghazi
  • 00:57:24
    thing how many millions of dollars do we
  • 00:57:25
    just waste on The house's effort to
  • 00:57:27
    impeach Biden and they didn't even do an
  • 00:57:29
    impeachment vote at the end like not
  • 00:57:30
    even close this one from Richie
  • 00:57:33
    Constitution says Destiny why do you
  • 00:57:34
    always talk about Trump I thought this
  • 00:57:36
    debate was about Harris because we it's
  • 00:57:39
    a twers election you're voting for the
  • 00:57:41
    Democrats or the Republicans it's not a
  • 00:57:42
    two person election I want to make that
  • 00:57:44
    very clear I am not voting for either
  • 00:57:46
    Harris or Trump there are other people
  • 00:57:48
    running what other conservative cand
  • 00:57:50
    would you support they don't have I'm
  • 00:57:51
    not a conservative Destiny I'm voting
  • 00:57:53
    for Jill Stein you're voting for okay I
  • 00:57:55
    think that if you support Donald yes I
  • 00:57:56
    think you should you should vote for
  • 00:57:57
    Jill Stein that is an option true
  • 00:57:59
    Antonio inz thanks for your question
  • 00:58:02
    said Kim do you believe the 2020
  • 00:58:03
    election warrant terminating the
  • 00:58:05
    Constitution if so please explain how
  • 00:58:07
    that is not a threat to democracy if not
  • 00:58:10
    why support the candidate who said that
  • 00:58:13
    well for one again I don't support the
  • 00:58:14
    candidate who said that I'm not sure if
  • 00:58:17
    the candidate actually said that or if
  • 00:58:18
    that's an exaggeration of a position um
  • 00:58:21
    of course I do not believe that the
  • 00:58:22
    constitution needs to be terminated
  • 00:58:24
    should be terminated there are there are
  • 00:58:27
    disputes that happen every single day at
  • 00:58:29
    the Supreme Court this the Constitution
  • 00:58:32
    is debated and and it is refined to this
  • 00:58:36
    day through Court rulings so you know
  • 00:58:39
    take it to the courts and that's what
  • 00:58:41
    Donald Trump did and that's fine with me
  • 00:58:43
    anybody could take it to the courts
  • 00:58:46
    ommer thanks for your question said how
  • 00:58:47
    would you grade each major candidate on
  • 00:58:49
    their foreign policy strong or weak
  • 00:58:52
    points of each I suppose we'll uh just
  • 00:58:55
    cover Harris if that's so I suppose if
  • 00:58:58
    you want to cover Stein that
  • 00:59:00
    works but we'll at least cover Harris
  • 00:59:03
    you want is this is this a question for
  • 00:59:06
    me uh this is for both of you so if
  • 00:59:08
    you'd like to go first you're more than
  • 00:59:10
    welcome to um jillin has excellent
  • 00:59:12
    foreign policy I think she's right on
  • 00:59:14
    practically all of the foreign policy
  • 00:59:15
    points that we have um Jill Stein that
  • 00:59:18
    is one of the reasons why I support Jill
  • 00:59:20
    Stein is I think that she is the most
  • 00:59:22
    consistent truly uh somebody that is
  • 00:59:26
    looking at each of the different
  • 00:59:28
    conflicts and saying this is not
  • 00:59:29
    America's problem this is not something
  • 00:59:31
    that we should be involved in kamla
  • 00:59:33
    Harris uh has very much a Hillary
  • 00:59:35
    Clinton foreign policy she actually is
  • 00:59:39
    deviates even from Barack Obama who had
  • 00:59:41
    more of an anti-interventionist in fact
  • 00:59:43
    if you really wanted to compare it
  • 00:59:44
    Donald Trump has a slightly more Barack
  • 00:59:47
    Obama foreign policy than kamla Harris
  • 00:59:49
    does Harris takes a stronger stance and
  • 00:59:52
    she's more in line with Hillary Clinton
  • 00:59:53
    so if you like what Hillary Clinton has
  • 00:59:55
    done if you think that she did an
  • 00:59:57
    excellent job with foreign policy then
  • 00:59:59
    kamla Harris I suppose you would think
  • 01:00:02
    that she's got excellent policy points
  • 01:00:05
    what's a what real quick what's one good
  • 01:00:07
    what is a what is a Jill Stein foreign
  • 01:00:08
    policy Point uh ending the genocide in
  • 01:00:12
    Gaza
  • 01:00:13
    how how by forcing by stopping support
  • 01:00:18
    of Israel Israel is reliant on our
  • 01:00:20
    support in order to continue doing what
  • 01:00:21
    they're doing okay so Israel's not
  • 01:00:23
    relying on our support to continue doing
  • 01:00:24
    what they're doing they can absolutely
  • 01:00:25
    fun M themselves um I think that one of
  • 01:00:27
    the biggest red herrings for basically
  • 01:00:29
    somebody who is a paid foreign asset or
  • 01:00:31
    somebody who just knows nothing about
  • 01:00:32
    foreign policy is usually when they uh
  • 01:00:34
    when they talk about peace a lot in
  • 01:00:36
    their foreign policy plan peace is a
  • 01:00:37
    meaningless word nobody wants peace
  • 01:00:40
    people want Justice it's very easy if
  • 01:00:42
    somebody's invading your village and
  • 01:00:43
    wants to take over your entire country
  • 01:00:45
    or take over your entire city to say oh
  • 01:00:46
    well let's just be peaceful and lay down
  • 01:00:48
    our arms and let them take over
  • 01:00:49
    everything and steal our uh economy and
  • 01:00:52
    Lead our country and dictate to us what
  • 01:00:54
    we ought to do nobody wants peace want
  • 01:00:56
    Justice they want to feel like something
  • 01:00:57
    is happening that is um satisfying the
  • 01:01:00
    desires that they have as a nation as a
  • 01:01:01
    country as they are entitled to in the
  • 01:01:03
    world so when Jill Stein says things
  • 01:01:05
    like I want to defund our military by
  • 01:01:07
    like 75% when she's saying things like I
  • 01:01:10
    want to delete over 700 US foreign
  • 01:01:12
    military bases when she's saying things
  • 01:01:14
    like I want to end all of our
  • 01:01:15
    involvement in every single conflict
  • 01:01:16
    ever what she's actually saying is I
  • 01:01:19
    want to create more room on the planet
  • 01:01:20
    to make the world multi-polar I want
  • 01:01:22
    Russia to be deciding how Russia Ukraine
  • 01:01:24
    ends I don't want the United States
  • 01:01:25
    involvement there I want China to be
  • 01:01:27
    signing deals between Saudi Arabia and
  • 01:01:29
    Iran I don't want the United States to
  • 01:01:30
    be involved there I want all of our
  • 01:01:32
    foreign adversaries to be the ones that
  • 01:01:33
    are dictating policy to the rest of the
  • 01:01:35
    world because remember just because the
  • 01:01:36
    United States steps back from a
  • 01:01:37
    leadership position doesn't mean nobody
  • 01:01:38
    else is going to take their place which
  • 01:01:39
    is exactly what everybody that says
  • 01:01:41
    peace peace peace like Jill Stein wants
  • 01:01:42
    to happen they want other countries to
  • 01:01:44
    be those leaders and not the United
  • 01:01:45
    States for whatever reason any py
  • 01:01:48
    rejoinders him and then we'll go to the
  • 01:01:50
    next question why should the United
  • 01:01:51
    States be controlling the entire world
  • 01:01:53
    we don't even have the majority of the
  • 01:01:54
    population so when go to talk about
  • 01:01:57
    democracy uh why should this nation that
  • 01:01:59
    has 330 million be controlling a planet
  • 01:02:01
    of 8 billion people first of all
  • 01:02:04
    secondly we shouldn't have anything to
  • 01:02:06
    do with these conflicts they're not our
  • 01:02:07
    conflicts these are not our fights if
  • 01:02:09
    Israel can continue to fund itself great
  • 01:02:11
    why does my money need to go to their
  • 01:02:12
    fight then if that's the case then you
  • 01:02:14
    should be advocating to stop sending
  • 01:02:16
    support to Israel if they could take
  • 01:02:18
    care of themselves why are we wasting my
  • 01:02:19
    dollars because I think the United
  • 01:02:20
    States is probably the most moral
  • 01:02:22
    country right now to head the world
  • 01:02:24
    heemy I think that Europe has seen an un
  • 01:02:25
    ented era of Peace under United States
  • 01:02:28
    leadership uh what would be a country
  • 01:02:29
    that would be better than the United
  • 01:02:30
    States to take point on that is it going
  • 01:02:32
    to be Russia who wants to invade and rap
  • 01:02:33
    all their neighboring countries is it
  • 01:02:34
    going to be China who is abusing the
  • 01:02:37
    entire continent of Africa and doesn't
  • 01:02:38
    even give their own population the
  • 01:02:39
    ability to vote in free and fair
  • 01:02:41
    elections what other country besides the
  • 01:02:42
    United States would be best at the Helm
  • 01:02:43
    of the world speaking of Russia this
  • 01:02:45
    might be good opportunity go ahead rayal
  • 01:02:49
    says question for both Debaters is Putin
  • 01:02:51
    a dictator and will you denounce
  • 01:02:53
    Russia's involvement with tenant media
  • 01:02:57
    is Putin a dictator yeah obviously of
  • 01:03:01
    course I mean what's a dictator a
  • 01:03:04
    dictator is somebody that rules without
  • 01:03:06
    having uh themselves able to be
  • 01:03:08
    questioned by their population with free
  • 01:03:09
    and fair elections often times it's
  • 01:03:11
    through a singular party often times
  • 01:03:13
    it's through a top- down authoritarian
  • 01:03:14
    control meaning they don't just control
  • 01:03:16
    the state and the government like Putin
  • 01:03:17
    does they also control large SWS of the
  • 01:03:19
    economy and the population through
  • 01:03:20
    oligarchies which he does and they also
  • 01:03:22
    tend to control the distribution of
  • 01:03:23
    media through organizations like RT
  • 01:03:25
    which does that would be a
  • 01:03:27
    dictator well then you just describe the
  • 01:03:29
    Democratic party I mean which which
  • 01:03:31
    major media organization is the
  • 01:03:33
    Democratic party dictate to dictate
  • 01:03:35
    policy
  • 01:03:36
    to CNN MSNBC all of the LI liberal
  • 01:03:40
    mainstream media Outlets that are taking
  • 01:03:42
    direct talking points speaking in unison
  • 01:03:44
    we see this all the time when they all
  • 01:03:45
    come out saying the same exact thing
  • 01:03:47
    tweeting it all out all in unison like
  • 01:03:49
    they got talking points from the DNC if
  • 01:03:51
    that's possible then why did all of the
  • 01:03:53
    media attack Biden and force him to step
  • 01:03:54
    down if Biden
  • 01:03:56
    that's what they Biden's not the
  • 01:03:58
    dictator it's people behind the people
  • 01:04:00
    are the dictator that's called a
  • 01:04:01
    democracy it's not a democracy whoever
  • 01:04:04
    chose kamla Harris because it certainly
  • 01:04:06
    wasn't the people the voter well we
  • 01:04:07
    actually did when we voted for that
  • 01:04:09
    ticket last time you know if Biden died
  • 01:04:10
    you know that Harris would have also
  • 01:04:12
    just stepped up to be the leader on the
  • 01:04:13
    ticket if Biden died would that have
  • 01:04:14
    been anti-democratic should George Bush
  • 01:04:17
    continue to be president because people
  • 01:04:18
    voted for him once so if they vote for
  • 01:04:20
    him once it's okay to just keep keep
  • 01:04:22
    putting the person in over and over and
  • 01:04:24
    over again I mean that logic fails you
  • 01:04:26
    have to vote every single time that's
  • 01:04:28
    why we have democracy vot in the
  • 01:04:29
    elections in the general elections yes
  • 01:04:31
    we do we vote in the general elections
  • 01:04:32
    and typically yeah your incumbent does
  • 01:04:33
    run again over and over again which is
  • 01:04:35
    what George Bush did yeah that's what
  • 01:04:36
    happens correct of the general wait wait
  • 01:04:39
    wait do we not feel like Putin wait so
  • 01:04:40
    is Putin not a dictator I don't know if
  • 01:04:42
    he's a dictator I'm not Russian I don't
  • 01:04:44
    really
  • 01:04:45
    care it's not my country it's not my
  • 01:04:47
    country I don't deal with it wa wait do
  • 01:04:49
    we not care then what because the United
  • 01:04:51
    States has to oppose like we don't have
  • 01:04:53
    to oppose we don't have to get involved
  • 01:04:55
    with other countries and other elections
  • 01:04:57
    the Russian people are strong people
  • 01:04:58
    they're not children if they want to
  • 01:05:00
    make change they will I don't need them
  • 01:05:02
    to come and make change for me in my
  • 01:05:04
    country and I don't need to go over
  • 01:05:05
    there and make change for them in theirs
  • 01:05:06
    what if they want to go and make changes
  • 01:05:07
    in other countries you don't think the
  • 01:05:09
    United States or anybody else has an
  • 01:05:10
    obligation to help do you think that the
  • 01:05:12
    United States doesn't meddle in other
  • 01:05:13
    countries elections or stage C I have no
  • 01:05:16
    idea what that question was about I'm
  • 01:05:18
    asking if Russia wants to invade its
  • 01:05:19
    neighbors do you not think other
  • 01:05:20
    countries have an obligation to help no
  • 01:05:23
    we don't have an obligation to help
  • 01:05:25
    country can't defend its own borders
  • 01:05:26
    then that's a that's we we can help it's
  • 01:05:29
    not an
  • 01:05:30
    obligation do you think that in wait
  • 01:05:32
    wait wait do you think that in World War
  • 01:05:33
    II do you think the United States should
  • 01:05:34
    have stepped up to fight against Germany
  • 01:05:36
    I think that the United States that's
  • 01:05:38
    such an easy yes or no question should
  • 01:05:39
    we have stepped up to fight against easy
  • 01:05:41
    yes or no question United States have
  • 01:05:43
    stepped up the fight against Germany why
  • 01:05:45
    it's not an easy yes or no question the
  • 01:05:47
    United States decided it was in the
  • 01:05:48
    United States interest after the bombing
  • 01:05:49
    of Pearl Harbor to go into that war
  • 01:05:51
    prior to that point the United States
  • 01:05:52
    did not giving me
  • 01:05:56
    there not been the bombing of Pearl
  • 01:05:57
    Harbor I don't know so we don't even
  • 01:05:59
    know if we should have opposed Nazis
  • 01:06:01
    okay so let's say that you see somebody
  • 01:06:02
    who taking you don't have to oppose the
  • 01:06:04
    Nazis I'm just not saying we need to go
  • 01:06:05
    to war with every single person that we
  • 01:06:06
    oppose I never said go to war with every
  • 01:06:08
    single person we oppose I just asked if
  • 01:06:09
    we should fought have fought in World
  • 01:06:10
    War II against the Nazis they didn't
  • 01:06:12
    bomb us Japan did right maybe we should
  • 01:06:13
    have just gone to war with
  • 01:06:15
    Japan well I mean we largely did but
  • 01:06:18
    then we went into Europe we were begged
  • 01:06:20
    by England to go in and we went in I'm
  • 01:06:22
    not saying look we were helping the
  • 01:06:24
    Soviets beforehand right the only reason
  • 01:06:26
    the Soviets could fight is because of
  • 01:06:27
    Len Le it's because of our our funding
  • 01:06:29
    of the Soviets to Give Them Enough ra
  • 01:06:31
    materials I think it's a really
  • 01:06:32
    important point I think it's kind of
  • 01:06:33
    crazy that we can't say that Putin is a
  • 01:06:35
    dictator or that we can't say that any
  • 01:06:36
    country on the planet should have an
  • 01:06:37
    obligation to help other countries I
  • 01:06:39
    don't think there's an obligation you
  • 01:06:40
    can go in if you feel like you need to
  • 01:06:42
    go in if I was alive during World War II
  • 01:06:45
    I probably would have said yes we need
  • 01:06:47
    to go in but that doesn't make it an
  • 01:06:49
    obligation there's no obligation don't
  • 01:06:51
    you have an obligation to your own
  • 01:06:52
    people to create a better world you have
  • 01:06:54
    an obligation to your own country own
  • 01:06:56
    people let pretend for an instance let's
  • 01:06:59
    say for one second wait let's say we
  • 01:07:00
    don't have a child's view of foreign
  • 01:07:01
    policy what if a country was invading
  • 01:07:02
    Mexico to the South and the country was
  • 01:07:03
    called the kill all people country and
  • 01:07:05
    we saw them about to invade Mexico
  • 01:07:07
    wouldn't it behoove us to help Mexico to
  • 01:07:09
    resist the invasion of the kill all
  • 01:07:10
    people country before they're on our
  • 01:07:12
    border it would probably be in our best
  • 01:07:14
    interest because Mexico's on our border
  • 01:07:15
    so we wouldn't want them coming into a
  • 01:07:17
    nation that's on our border so yes that
  • 01:07:18
    would be something that we would
  • 01:07:20
    probably want to do but again it's not
  • 01:07:22
    an
  • 01:07:22
    obligation I hate to do this Ral has
  • 01:07:25
    another question they say for both
  • 01:07:26
    please explain Trump's platform for the
  • 01:07:28
    2024 election not sure why well he has a
  • 01:07:31
    concept of a platform I think we know
  • 01:07:32
    that
  • 01:07:34
    much yeah I mean I don't know I don't
  • 01:07:36
    pay much attention to Trump's platform
  • 01:07:38
    because I'm not voting for Donald Trump
  • 01:07:41
    yeah Evan lockheart says Destiny what
  • 01:07:42
    are your thoughts on the Kamal Harris
  • 01:07:44
    FBI Prosecuting the am I saying this
  • 01:07:46
    right uu movement for having Zoom
  • 01:07:49
    meetings with a Russian because that
  • 01:07:51
    seems completely undemocratic in anti-p
  • 01:07:54
    speech that I can you pronounce it again
  • 01:07:56
    or what was this question yeah
  • 01:07:59
    uru uh Ru uh are you oh the uo so what's
  • 01:08:07
    what was the question about the
  • 01:08:09
    uus you say Destiny what are your
  • 01:08:11
    thoughts on the Kamala Harris FBI
  • 01:08:13
    Prosecuting the uo's movement for having
  • 01:08:16
    Zoom meetings with a Russian because
  • 01:08:19
    that seems completely undemocratic and
  • 01:08:21
    anti-free speech I don't know anything
  • 01:08:22
    about that particular issue so I
  • 01:08:24
    wouldn't be able to speak on it the ruus
  • 01:08:26
    were charged with it's similar to sort
  • 01:08:29
    of what's gone on with tenant media a
  • 01:08:31
    little bit where they were accused of
  • 01:08:33
    being Russian assets essentially funded
  • 01:08:35
    by Russia they went to court uh it was
  • 01:08:38
    the Biden Biden Administration that went
  • 01:08:41
    after them they went to court and they
  • 01:08:42
    actually just won their court case they
  • 01:08:44
    are found to not be Russian assets at
  • 01:08:47
    all got it this one coming in from do
  • 01:08:50
    appreciate it Chase Hatchet says got the
  • 01:08:53
    one Sumer thanks very much says to both
  • 01:08:54
    there's a movement in the far right
  • 01:08:56
    right now with figures like ques Gary
  • 01:08:58
    UPI Destiny's buddy that are disav Trump
  • 01:09:01
    since he's Tamer not pushing as hard on
  • 01:09:04
    Maga issues curious to get your opinions
  • 01:09:08
    on that as left leaning
  • 01:09:11
    people uh I mean if you Court crazy
  • 01:09:14
    racist people uh you're obviously going
  • 01:09:15
    to get crazy racist people as part of
  • 01:09:17
    your movement it's not surprising at all
  • 01:09:18
    to me I don't know what else to
  • 01:09:20
    say I don't know anything about these
  • 01:09:22
    people enough to make any sort of
  • 01:09:24
    characterization about them
  • 01:09:26
    Otto says I wonder if Kim knows that in
  • 01:09:28
    other Democratic countries parties just
  • 01:09:30
    introduce their candidates without
  • 01:09:32
    having
  • 01:09:34
    primaries um I don't compare ourselves
  • 01:09:36
    to other countries I would like to see a
  • 01:09:38
    democracy in my country and that's what
  • 01:09:40
    I advocate
  • 01:09:41
    for this one from George it seems like
  • 01:09:44
    so for this aru group so they were
  • 01:09:45
    convicted of conspiring with a Russian
  • 01:09:47
    agent they were quitted on one charge
  • 01:09:48
    and they were convicted of another so
  • 01:09:49
    they didn't beat everything right I'm
  • 01:09:52
    not 100% certain I I believe that they
  • 01:09:54
    beat their C
  • 01:09:56
    okay they were handed a mixed verdict
  • 01:09:57
    you sounded very certain but it sounds
  • 01:09:58
    like they were actually convicted of
  • 01:09:59
    conspiring the Russian agents U but they
  • 01:10:01
    were acquitted the more serious charge
  • 01:10:02
    would have been which would have been
  • 01:10:04
    acting as agents of a foreign government
  • 01:10:05
    so I'm guessing this is a type of fire
  • 01:10:07
    violation but it wasn't the worst type
  • 01:10:08
    of fire violation yeah so they had some
  • 01:10:10
    contact with Russians well no it doesn't
  • 01:10:12
    sound like they just had some contact
  • 01:10:14
    with Russians I don't think there's a
  • 01:10:15
    federal charge for just having contact
  • 01:10:16
    with Russians there was probably federal
  • 01:10:18
    charges though relating to uh conspiring
  • 01:10:20
    with foreign agents and not making a
  • 01:10:22
    declaration of that t Fara which is the
  • 01:10:24
    law of the United States
  • 01:10:25
    H folks we won't be able to take any
  • 01:10:28
    more questions so do appreciate your
  • 01:10:29
    questions but we want to wrap up by a
  • 01:10:30
    decent time so for sure please no more
  • 01:10:32
    questions George Connelly was I think a
  • 01:10:35
    little bit late to the party uh they uh
  • 01:10:37
    seem to think Kim that you're for Trump
  • 01:10:39
    so they say is Kamala or for Kim is
  • 01:10:42
    Kamala becoming the nominee more or less
  • 01:10:44
    Democratic than Trump's electoral plot
  • 01:10:45
    and attempted Insurrection I think you'd
  • 01:10:48
    probably disavow so Richie Constitution
  • 01:10:50
    says Destiny I don't want to speak for
  • 01:10:52
    you though I want to give you a chance
  • 01:10:53
    if you'd like I just don't I I think
  • 01:10:56
    that if whatever the procedure was that
  • 01:10:58
    Trump was attempting after the 2020
  • 01:11:01
    election going through the courts is the
  • 01:11:03
    proper procedure um if there are other
  • 01:11:05
    constitutional procedures that he was
  • 01:11:07
    using in order to challenge that I think
  • 01:11:09
    that's completely fair so I think it's
  • 01:11:12
    fair for an American to challenge an
  • 01:11:14
    election to be clear Trump wasn't just
  • 01:11:16
    challenging the election he was trying
  • 01:11:17
    to break the law because he lost all of
  • 01:11:19
    his election challenges
  • 01:11:21
    but this one from Jonathan gendler says
  • 01:11:24
    Kim there bur presidential primaries
  • 01:11:26
    before 1912 before
  • 01:11:28
    1976 you didn't you did not always need
  • 01:11:31
    them to win them for the party's
  • 01:11:33
    nomination and say uh go ahead yeah the
  • 01:11:37
    the country hasn't always been perfect
  • 01:11:39
    um we've had a lot of dark moments in
  • 01:11:40
    our history that have been highly
  • 01:11:42
    anti-democratic for example slavery or
  • 01:11:44
    saying that blacks were two-thirds of a
  • 01:11:46
    per two fifths of a person um so we have
  • 01:11:49
    evolved we've become more democratic we
  • 01:11:51
    should be becoming more and more
  • 01:11:52
    democratic as time goes on as we become
  • 01:11:54
    a more enlightened
  • 01:11:56
    people you got it space Miner says
  • 01:11:58
    considering an ever increasing Nanny
  • 01:12:00
    State backed by police Powers what would
  • 01:12:02
    the enforcement powers of police look
  • 01:12:04
    like under either
  • 01:12:07
    opponent I think they mean in this case
  • 01:12:09
    Harris or Jill
  • 01:12:11
    Stein what what is the question yeah I'm
  • 01:12:14
    not really sure good question they say
  • 01:12:17
    considering an ever increasing Nanny
  • 01:12:19
    State backed by police power what would
  • 01:12:21
    the enforcement of these Powers look
  • 01:12:24
    like whether be from Harris or from
  • 01:12:28
    Stein I I I don't I don't know which
  • 01:12:30
    Powers they're referring to exactly the
  • 01:12:32
    exec I would say in my conversations
  • 01:12:35
    with Jill Stein she's very much against
  • 01:12:37
    the surveillance State and this labeling
  • 01:12:38
    of
  • 01:12:39
    misinformation um so I would just think
  • 01:12:41
    that under Harris you know we've seen a
  • 01:12:43
    definite under Democrats in general a
  • 01:12:46
    ramping up of these ideas of uh
  • 01:12:48
    surveillance and misinformation and
  • 01:12:51
    flagging people and tagging people so I
  • 01:12:54
    would say that there would be a ramp up
  • 01:12:55
    of that I I think I'm not really sure
  • 01:12:58
    what the question was that's my best
  • 01:13:00
    answer you got it I think that fits it
  • 01:13:03
    tip 35 says Kim thanks for coming on can
  • 01:13:05
    you explain what the three let's see I
  • 01:13:08
    don't know what that danshire says for
  • 01:13:11
    both can you articulate any specific
  • 01:13:13
    Biden Harris policies that were
  • 01:13:14
    detrimental to our
  • 01:13:17
    economy Biden Harris policies
  • 01:13:19
    detrimental to the economy um the
  • 01:13:22
    advocating for lockdowns was the biggest
  • 01:13:25
    detrimental advocating for something I
  • 01:13:27
    don't think it's a policy and they
  • 01:13:29
    happened under Donald Trump so well
  • 01:13:32
    Democrats were advocating for them they
  • 01:13:33
    wanted the lockdowns it was again
  • 01:13:35
    probably talk about Democrats it was
  • 01:13:36
    Harris and Biden well Harris and Biden
  • 01:13:39
    are the heads of the party and they were
  • 01:13:41
    directing the people that were in
  • 01:13:43
    positions of power not only that but
  • 01:13:44
    Biden did
  • 01:13:46
    do affected
  • 01:13:48
    the you don't think that the president
  • 01:13:50
    is the head of the party no who's the
  • 01:13:53
    head of the party it would be the chair
  • 01:13:55
    the DNC or the chair of the RNC remember
  • 01:13:56
    if the president was the head of the
  • 01:13:58
    party then who would have you already
  • 01:13:59
    admitted this when you said that Biden
  • 01:14:00
    was made to step down by the actual
  • 01:14:02
    Party heads right so even you don't age
  • 01:14:04
    with this the powers that were behind
  • 01:14:06
    Biden yeah he's supposed to be the party
  • 01:14:08
    head that is the way it's supposed to be
  • 01:14:10
    set up but they clearly have mechanisms
  • 01:14:13
    to undermine that so then clearly he's
  • 01:14:15
    not the head of the party and when and
  • 01:14:16
    when the lockdowns were happening Biden
  • 01:14:18
    wasn't president so he definitely wasn't
  • 01:14:19
    the head of the party then even if we do
  • 01:14:21
    say the president's head of the party so
  • 01:14:23
    yeah also does a green even have open
  • 01:14:26
    primaries or do they not sure hold on if
  • 01:14:29
    primaries are like the one of the most
  • 01:14:30
    important ideas of a democracy to you
  • 01:14:32
    now which for some reason is incredibly
  • 01:14:34
    important I don't even know I don't
  • 01:14:35
    think they have open primaries and
  • 01:14:36
    that's a state-by-state thing anyway I
  • 01:14:38
    think they no it's not state-by-state
  • 01:14:39
    it's a private organization an Open
  • 01:14:40
    Primary is state by state primaries can
  • 01:14:42
    be held however you want them to be it's
  • 01:14:44
    state by state each state decides each
  • 01:14:47
    state each party decides within each
  • 01:14:49
    state they're going to do their
  • 01:14:50
    primaries you have to register for the
  • 01:14:53
    party in order to in order order to vote
  • 01:14:55
    in that party some states allow you to
  • 01:14:57
    vote in the primaries without
  • 01:14:59
    registering that's an Open Primary
  • 01:15:02
    States might change how you register for
  • 01:15:03
    how you vote but how a primary is run is
  • 01:15:06
    decided by the party that's why for
  • 01:15:07
    instance like Nebraska could say by each
  • 01:15:09
    state each state decides that's why some
  • 01:15:11
    states have caucuses some states have
  • 01:15:13
    primaries some force you to register as
  • 01:15:16
    a member of that party in order for you
  • 01:15:17
    to vote in their primary some states
  • 01:15:19
    don't you just Florida said if Florida
  • 01:15:22
    said we're going to change it so that
  • 01:15:23
    we're actually going to be the first
  • 01:15:24
    party uh in the next primary cycle
  • 01:15:25
    instead of Iowa would Florida be allowed
  • 01:15:27
    to do that Florida is not allowed to
  • 01:15:30
    dictate the elections in Iowa no not
  • 01:15:32
    even Democratic part not the elections
  • 01:15:34
    let's say Florida says we know when the
  • 01:15:35
    Iowa caucuses are we're going to hold
  • 01:15:37
    our primaries before Iowa do you think
  • 01:15:38
    Florida would be allowed to do that yeah
  • 01:15:40
    Florida can do that if they want to do
  • 01:15:42
    that because because what happens is
  • 01:15:43
    both parties say okay well we're not
  • 01:15:44
    going to count your primary votes that's
  • 01:15:46
    what would happen well they could say
  • 01:15:47
    that but that doesn't mean that the
  • 01:15:48
    state can't actually hold that primary
  • 01:15:50
    they certainly can this was from the
  • 01:15:52
    Democratic party Democrats just had this
  • 01:15:55
    I'm sorry but this I don't think you
  • 01:15:57
    understand that these are private
  • 01:15:58
    parties I think you think that these are
  • 01:15:59
    like part of the government I understand
  • 01:16:00
    that they're private parties but the
  • 01:16:02
    states decide so when New Hampshire
  • 01:16:03
    decided that they were going to hold
  • 01:16:04
    their primary when they wanted to hold
  • 01:16:06
    their primary that was challenged and
  • 01:16:09
    the New Hampshire primary the New
  • 01:16:10
    Hampshire Constitution says that they go
  • 01:16:13
    before a certain number of states and
  • 01:16:14
    when Democrats wanted to make that
  • 01:16:15
    change Democrats did not get to
  • 01:16:17
    unilaterally make that change in north
  • 01:16:19
    in uh New Hampshire they actually had to
  • 01:16:21
    contest it with them in court because
  • 01:16:23
    this is this is the agreement the part
  • 01:16:24
    parties have with with the states but if
  • 01:16:27
    a state decided that they just don't
  • 01:16:28
    want to participate or they want to do
  • 01:16:30
    they can do that but then a party can
  • 01:16:30
    say okay well we're not going to count
  • 01:16:31
    your primary votes they don't have an
  • 01:16:33
    obligation the delegates um to to listen
  • 01:16:35
    to States otherwise every state would
  • 01:16:36
    want to go first right why why Iowa New
  • 01:16:38
    Hampshire go first sure but it doesn't
  • 01:16:40
    that doesn't change the fact that the
  • 01:16:42
    states decide the state chairs the state
  • 01:16:44
    part branches of the party decide so I'm
  • 01:16:47
    saying with the green party back to the
  • 01:16:48
    point is I'm not sure how they operate
  • 01:16:51
    in every single state I think they just
  • 01:16:52
    do electors I don't think they actually
  • 01:16:54
    have like like primaries where citizens
  • 01:16:56
    vot at all which is interesting to me
  • 01:16:57
    given that that seemed like such an
  • 01:16:58
    important part to you for things to be
  • 01:17:00
    considered democratic and you support
  • 01:17:01
    Jill Stein there were plenty of other
  • 01:17:03
    candidates that ran in the green party I
  • 01:17:05
    interviewed many of them so they did
  • 01:17:07
    actually have Challengers to Jill Stein
  • 01:17:09
    they didn't just anoint her they had
  • 01:17:10
    several other people people voted on
  • 01:17:13
    that well if you're going to say that
  • 01:17:14
    then in that case that was the exact
  • 01:17:15
    same thing that happened in the
  • 01:17:15
    Democratic party there were delegates
  • 01:17:17
    that had pledged for Biden and then
  • 01:17:18
    Biden supported KLA Harris when he
  • 01:17:20
    stepped down and those delegates decided
  • 01:17:21
    to vote for KLA Harris they could vote
  • 01:17:22
    for other people if they want
  • 01:17:23
    to yeah yeah I they didn't really give
  • 01:17:26
    any other options and they pretty much
  • 01:17:27
    told everybody that they had to support
  • 01:17:29
    Harris and that was it they didn't
  • 01:17:31
    delates are allowed to vote for who they
  • 01:17:32
    want to but thank you very much Sumer
  • 01:17:34
    for your question ask what do each of
  • 01:17:36
    you think about the recent assassination
  • 01:17:40
    attempts obviously on
  • 01:17:42
    Trump uh you shouldn't be trying to kill
  • 01:17:44
    people in the United States for our
  • 01:17:45
    political system so probably not good
  • 01:17:47
    don't do that right this one from Leslie
  • 01:17:50
    Lewis says did Trump purposely block the
  • 01:17:52
    right leaning immigration bill that
  • 01:17:54
    Republican have wanted for years yay or
  • 01:17:57
    nay I think we covered that this from
  • 01:18:00
    Dan sh says can you we got that boredom
  • 01:18:03
    says why are that was a right he did he
  • 01:18:05
    did intentionally block that that was
  • 01:18:07
    shot I'm sure just like Democrats
  • 01:18:08
    blocked him previously wait which
  • 01:18:10
    Democrat called wait what was a
  • 01:18:12
    Democratic leader who shot down a bill
  • 01:18:14
    that had the support of both halves of
  • 01:18:17
    Congress that I'm sorry what what
  • 01:18:19
    Democratic leader shot down a bill that
  • 01:18:22
    was that had the support of both halves
  • 01:18:23
    of Congress to pass
  • 01:18:25
    which Bill are you talking about well
  • 01:18:27
    I'm talking about the immigration bill
  • 01:18:29
    that was going to be passed I'm saying
  • 01:18:31
    that Democrats blocked immigration
  • 01:18:33
    blocked border bills previously and the
  • 01:18:36
    issue with this border Bill well sure
  • 01:18:37
    but you're just wrong you're making a
  • 01:18:38
    horrible comparison here there was a
  • 01:18:40
    bill that was ready to go that the
  • 01:18:41
    Republicans and Democrats supported in
  • 01:18:43
    Congress and Donald Trump said no keep
  • 01:18:44
    the Border open I want to win the next
  • 01:18:45
    election so then Republicans apparently
  • 01:18:48
    opposed it because he doesn't have the
  • 01:18:49
    power to just say don't pass this bill
  • 01:18:51
    you can't pass this bill people had to
  • 01:18:53
    actually vote on that right so a bunch
  • 01:18:54
    of Republicans decided to go along with
  • 01:18:56
    what he wanted yes they were that any
  • 01:18:58
    different than what happened when
  • 01:18:59
    Democrats were also blocking any sort of
  • 01:19:01
    Border bills under When Donald Trump was
  • 01:19:03
    President because Democrats not agreeing
  • 01:19:05
    with a bill and not wanting to vote for
  • 01:19:06
    it is different than an independent
  • 01:19:07
    leader like a Hillary Clinton or a
  • 01:19:09
    Barack Obama or uh Biden saying guys
  • 01:19:11
    don't vote on this piece of legislation
  • 01:19:13
    we want how do you know what each how
  • 01:19:14
    each Democrat felt I'm sure that there
  • 01:19:15
    were Democrats that actually did agree
  • 01:19:17
    but they went with the party line
  • 01:19:18
    because we can look and see what they
  • 01:19:19
    say publicly and we have yeah what they
  • 01:19:21
    say publicly is to support the party
  • 01:19:23
    line okay well what they don't say
  • 01:19:26
    supporting the party line is different
  • 01:19:27
    than this leader was telling us that we
  • 01:19:29
    need to change our vote the Republicans
  • 01:19:30
    were on board with the Border Bill
  • 01:19:31
    what's the difference the party line is
  • 01:19:33
    from the leadership the difference is
  • 01:19:34
    that there's a party line that people
  • 01:19:36
    probably believe in and there are
  • 01:19:38
    individual candidates that might put
  • 01:19:39
    themselves over the party or the country
  • 01:19:41
    which is what Donald Trump did the
  • 01:19:42
    Republicans were ready to support a Bill
  • 01:19:44
    in Congress and Donald Trump said don't
  • 01:19:45
    support it I want to win the next
  • 01:19:46
    election Democrats don't do that they
  • 01:19:48
    might support or not support something
  • 01:19:49
    because of what the party tends to
  • 01:19:50
    support because they tend to agree with
  • 01:19:51
    it which is why they're in the party but
  • 01:19:53
    that's different than one leader coming
  • 01:19:54
    out saying hey guys change your vote
  • 01:19:55
    we're not going to go ahead and vote on
  • 01:19:56
    this thing we want to keep it open like
  • 01:19:57
    when a Republicans shut down the
  • 01:19:58
    government or like when they lose their
  • 01:19:59
    speaker seat in the house or any other
  • 01:20:01
    Monumental ways they fail in governing I
  • 01:20:04
    mean I don't know how you think you know
  • 01:20:05
    what everybody in Congress is thinking
  • 01:20:07
    individually well I can just look at
  • 01:20:08
    their public statements and I can see
  • 01:20:10
    the things that they say it's pretty
  • 01:20:10
    easy actually when you live in Dem are
  • 01:20:12
    different okay this one from boredom
  • 01:20:15
    says why are there so many former uh I
  • 01:20:18
    don't know if they're like I said late
  • 01:20:19
    to the party or what they say why are
  • 01:20:22
    there so many former left Wingers
  • 01:20:24
    turning into Rank and file
  • 01:20:26
    Republicans maybe they're in other words
  • 01:20:30
    I think that they know that you're not a
  • 01:20:31
    trump supporter Kim I think they mean
  • 01:20:35
    other people so I think they're trying
  • 01:20:37
    to say that for example RFK is kind of
  • 01:20:39
    falling in line and going what are your
  • 01:20:42
    thoughts like a lot of Democrats are
  • 01:20:43
    switching over to the Republican party I
  • 01:20:45
    mean um I think we're seeing a shakeup
  • 01:20:48
    of the parties and we're seeing a lot of
  • 01:20:49
    people from the right like Dick Cheney
  • 01:20:51
    move to the left I wouldn't say right to
  • 01:20:54
    left I would say say perhaps the parties
  • 01:20:56
    are shifting uh themselves so we've seen
  • 01:20:58
    you know like a lot of the the
  • 01:21:01
    intelligence Community the warmongering
  • 01:21:03
    community the military industrial
  • 01:21:04
    complex the DI chenies of the world
  • 01:21:06
    supporting Democrats and we're seeing
  • 01:21:08
    people who had previously been Kennedy
  • 01:21:11
    Democrats now supporting Republicans I
  • 01:21:14
    think what you're actually seeing is
  • 01:21:15
    just there are some people very far on
  • 01:21:16
    the left who are anti-establishment who
  • 01:21:18
    hate the United States and these people
  • 01:21:19
    find themselves in Easy Company when it
  • 01:21:21
    goes to aligning with people on the very
  • 01:21:22
    far right and then I think that the fact
  • 01:21:24
    that like the H Maga people are
  • 01:21:25
    generally just anti-establishment means
  • 01:21:27
    that it's very easy to get anybody else
  • 01:21:28
    that hates the United States or hates
  • 01:21:29
    the establishment or takes foreign money
  • 01:21:31
    from people like Russia or Iran or China
  • 01:21:33
    uh to all go and join their groups as
  • 01:21:35
    well so I think that it's a pretty easy
  • 01:21:36
    Alliance when you get a bunch of people
  • 01:21:37
    that hate the state hate the government
  • 01:21:38
    hate the institutions and are just in
  • 01:21:40
    general anti-establishment and they I
  • 01:21:42
    don't pretend to know how people are
  • 01:21:44
    thinking or feeling nor do I have any
  • 01:21:46
    desire to insult people how you don't
  • 01:21:49
    know what people are thinking or how do
  • 01:21:50
    you make comments on anything publicly
  • 01:21:52
    I'm not going to sit here and and claim
  • 01:21:54
    that all these people hate America when
  • 01:21:55
    they're participating in the Democratic
  • 01:21:57
    process I'm not going to make those
  • 01:21:59
    types of characterizations or call them
  • 01:22:01
    basket of deplorables or do any sort of
  • 01:22:03
    insulting in my fellow Americans because
  • 01:22:04
    they're participating in democracy and
  • 01:22:06
    they decide that the person that you
  • 01:22:08
    want to vote for is not who they want to
  • 01:22:09
    vote for okay well that's great I will
  • 01:22:11
    call out people who I think take money
  • 01:22:12
    from other countries and they don't
  • 01:22:13
    declare it people like who worked under
  • 01:22:14
    tenant media uh other people that are
  • 01:22:16
    still operating in this media
  • 01:22:17
    environment people like yourself
  • 01:22:18
    probably I think it's worth calling
  • 01:22:20
    those people out when they have other
  • 01:22:21
    kinds of allegiances to other countes
  • 01:22:23
    are you are you making did you just say
  • 01:22:25
    that I'm taking money from any other
  • 01:22:27
    what did you just say probably almost
  • 01:22:28
    Surly yes um and then number two I think
  • 01:22:30
    that it's worth calling out people that
  • 01:22:31
    I feel have anti-American ideas so for
  • 01:22:33
    instance when Donald Trump says he wants
  • 01:22:34
    to destroy the Constitution or suspend
  • 01:22:36
    the Constitution I think that that's
  • 01:22:38
    worth calling out the Constitution
  • 01:22:39
    exists above all three branches you're a
  • 01:22:40
    piece of let me just say it you're a
  • 01:22:42
    piece of sorry you just are to make that
  • 01:22:45
    kind of characterization of me to make a
  • 01:22:47
    claim that you know nothing about I've
  • 01:22:48
    never taken a single dime from any other
  • 01:22:50
    country not even this country I am
  • 01:22:52
    completely independent and for to make
  • 01:22:54
    that sort of characterization that sort
  • 01:22:56
    of slander that sort of slur right here
  • 01:22:58
    in front of everybody you're a piece of
  • 01:22:59
    sh and I speak for a lot of people when
  • 01:23:01
    I say that I'm sure you do and I'm sure
  • 01:23:02
    they're all flying to Moscow right now
  • 01:23:04
    com because we going to this one George
  • 01:23:07
    says does Insurrection count as a
  • 01:23:09
    violent crime or is that excusable so
  • 01:23:12
    they say uh if it's Trump that's doing
  • 01:23:14
    it rather than Harris is it
  • 01:23:18
    okay uh I think Insurrection is always
  • 01:23:20
    bad when you're trying to destroy the
  • 01:23:21
    United States of America but I don't
  • 01:23:22
    know maybe some people just consider
  • 01:23:23
    that democracy or challenging things in
  • 01:23:25
    the courts I guess I don't know I think
  • 01:23:28
    it's perfectly fair to challenge
  • 01:23:30
    elections if that's what people want to
  • 01:23:32
    do people can challenge
  • 01:23:34
    elections this one from I killed Earl
  • 01:23:36
    say for Kim how have Biden and kamala's
  • 01:23:39
    Border policies been a failure when
  • 01:23:41
    they've removed 4.4 what is it 4.4
  • 01:23:44
    million illegal immigrants while Trump
  • 01:23:47
    removed 1.5 million according to
  • 01:23:50
    MPI first of all we've had a lot more
  • 01:23:53
    people coming through the border at this
  • 01:23:55
    point than When Donald Trump was
  • 01:23:56
    President a lot of it had to do with the
  • 01:23:58
    entire Globe shutting down and
  • 01:24:00
    immigration just being low and migration
  • 01:24:02
    being low around the entire Globe during
  • 01:24:04
    a certain period of time but I think
  • 01:24:06
    it's rhetoric and that is one of the
  • 01:24:09
    points that a lot of people were very
  • 01:24:10
    much against Donald Trump if they don't
  • 01:24:11
    like his rhetoric well rhetoric is what
  • 01:24:14
    Democrats were using when they were
  • 01:24:16
    basically saying that border crises were
  • 01:24:19
    not really crisis that this was just
  • 01:24:20
    some sort of a madeup racist talking
  • 01:24:23
    point or political point and they were
  • 01:24:25
    ignoring the border so even if they are
  • 01:24:27
    now scrambling to do something about it
  • 01:24:29
    it doesn't make up for the fact that
  • 01:24:31
    they undermine the issue for a very long
  • 01:24:33
    time yeah the undermining of the issue
  • 01:24:35
    happened when Donald Trump told them not
  • 01:24:36
    to pass a piece of legislation that
  • 01:24:38
    would have helped with the Border Donald
  • 01:24:39
    Trump undermined that more than any
  • 01:24:40
    other person there's a reason why Obama
  • 01:24:42
    and peers loves to say this every time
  • 01:24:43
    somebody his program why Barack Obama
  • 01:24:45
    was called the deporter in-chief uh the
  • 01:24:47
    problem with the Border crises is that a
  • 01:24:49
    lot of them are made up by Republicans
  • 01:24:50
    that's why Donald Trump humiliated
  • 01:24:52
    himself on stage when he was screaming
  • 01:24:53
    like a old man about watching Haitians
  • 01:24:56
    eating dogs on TV and he had no actual
  • 01:24:58
    response to claims that were basically
  • 01:24:59
    fabricated in front of a city council by
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    a Neo-Nazi on
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    YouTube this from Oni Chan says Destiny
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    seriously why are my tax dollars going
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    towards a genocide instead of improving
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    our
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    infrastructure it's not one or the other
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    Biden thankfully can fund our foreign
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    interests and he can do uh legislation
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    to improve our infrastructure at the
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    exact same time we can we can walk and
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    chew gum at the same time uh whether or
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    not we want to support our allies inter
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    and what types of things going to fund
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    domestically just have to do with the
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    types of legislative accomplishments you
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    can make in
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    Congress this one from George Connelly
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    says Kim was Trump's Let's see we got
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    James Z says after Pearl Harbor Germany
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    declared war on the United States they
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    were obliged because they had an
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    alliance with
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    Japan what was that what is he saying
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    they had said after Pearl Harbor Germany
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    declared war on the United States they
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    were obliged oh I see because they had
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    an alliance with Japan well yeah and we
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    went to war right I mean we went to but
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    it wasn't an the obligation of going to
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    there's the obligation is when you are
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    attacked your people are attacked right
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    then you do go to war that is what
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    people do um but the the question was
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    whether or not we're obliged to go to
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    war on behalf of another country we're
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    obliged to go to war on behalf of
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    ourselves we can then resolve that war
  • 01:26:19
    or engage in that war however we see fit
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    whatever we think is the best way to get
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    to the end result that want to get to um
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    but we're not my point was we're not
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    obliged to go to war we do have
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    agreements we have Nat agreements which
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    does make us obliged at that time during
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    World War II we did not so I wouldn't
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    call it an
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    obligation there are times that we can
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    choose where we think it's in our best
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    interest to go to war or we think it's a
  • 01:26:44
    moral interest to go to war or an
  • 01:26:46
    ethical interest to go to war but I
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    wouldn't call it an obligation I think
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    that if we want to keep trade free and
  • 01:26:51
    open like we have for the entirety of
  • 01:26:53
    the planet I think that if we want to
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    keep the world at relative peace which
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    it has enjoyed more than it has at any
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    other point in history under us
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    leadership I think that we have an
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    obligation both to the entire world and
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    to our own citizens to ensure that that
  • 01:27:04
    peace stays as well as it can with the
  • 01:27:06
    United States at the head of it I don't
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    think that a Russia that has invaded
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    mdova that has invaded uh Georgia that
  • 01:27:12
    is invading Ukraine uh that deploys its
  • 01:27:14
    paramilitary to the Middle East and to
  • 01:27:16
    Africa I don't think that letting Russia
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    control the world is good I don't think
  • 01:27:19
    that letting China uh you know a country
  • 01:27:21
    that is or is not currently maybe
  • 01:27:22
    genociding their weaker citizens that
  • 01:27:24
    has its eyes set on Taiwan I don't think
  • 01:27:26
    letting them control the world be good I
  • 01:27:27
    think that for the most part I think the
  • 01:27:28
    West has largely enjoyed the us being in
  • 01:27:30
    charge of things and I think that most
  • 01:27:31
    of the world probably enjoys for the
  • 01:27:33
    most part the United States being at the
  • 01:27:34
    head of things rather than people like
  • 01:27:36
    Putin or xishan ping this from pondering
  • 01:27:39
    politics and George Connelly have
  • 01:27:41
    basically the exact same question
  • 01:27:43
    coincidentally they had asked for Kim
  • 01:27:46
    they say was Trump's electoral plot and
  • 01:27:48
    attempted Insurrection more or less
  • 01:27:50
    Democratic than the DNC replacing Biden
  • 01:27:53
    with Mala in
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    particular um I don't I don't believe
  • 01:27:59
    January 6 was an Insurrection attempt by
  • 01:28:01
    Donald Trump maybe there were people
  • 01:28:03
    inside of j6 that you know you could
  • 01:28:05
    maybe make an argument that there were
  • 01:28:07
    some Sinister individuals who were
  • 01:28:08
    involved in that but I don't think that
  • 01:28:10
    there was some top- down directive that
  • 01:28:11
    came from Donald Trump or anyone in the
  • 01:28:13
    Republican Party um I and as far as how
  • 01:28:17
    can you say that when you said earlier
  • 01:28:19
    you don't know anything about what
  • 01:28:20
    happened you said over and over again
  • 01:28:21
    you I do know I well I know enough to
  • 01:28:22
    know that from the invest vations that
  • 01:28:24
    there was no directive that they found
  • 01:28:26
    coming from the top down that's
  • 01:28:28
    literally he's under indictment right
  • 01:28:30
    now by the federal government by Jack
  • 01:28:31
    Smith how can we say that we know just
  • 01:28:33
    just to hear the rest of from Kim go
  • 01:28:35
    ahead Kim yeah there was no directive
  • 01:28:38
    coming down from the top there's no
  • 01:28:39
    evidence of this whatsoever they can
  • 01:28:41
    make any charge that they want they can
  • 01:28:42
    charge you with anything that they want
  • 01:28:44
    Destiny you can fight that in court the
  • 01:28:47
    Trump will not be Char he will not be
  • 01:28:50
    convicted of of an Insurrection of
  • 01:28:52
    plotting an Insurrection where there's
  • 01:28:53
    no plans or plots that were there so you
  • 01:28:56
    know individuals behaving however
  • 01:28:58
    individuals behave is completely
  • 01:29:00
    different than coming from the top so I
  • 01:29:03
    don't think that there you know that's I
  • 01:29:05
    don't think there was an Insurrection
  • 01:29:06
    coming from the
  • 01:29:08
    top yeah I think it was pretty obvious
  • 01:29:09
    that there was I think that there was a
  • 01:29:11
    plan in place the entire time to have
  • 01:29:12
    Donald Trump subvert the peaceful
  • 01:29:13
    transfer of power I think he followed
  • 01:29:15
    that up by goting everybody on on the
  • 01:29:16
    January 6th when people say stop the
  • 01:29:18
    steel when they say we need Mike Pence
  • 01:29:20
    to do the right thing he's talking about
  • 01:29:21
    stopping the steal of the election
  • 01:29:23
    because he wants to president when he's
  • 01:29:24
    talking about Mike Pence doing the right
  • 01:29:25
    thing he's talking about Mike Pence
  • 01:29:27
    choosing him to be president when he
  • 01:29:29
    tells people we're going to March down
  • 01:29:30
    Pennsylvania Avenue and we're going to
  • 01:29:32
    give them the strength that they need to
  • 01:29:33
    do the right thing he's talking about
  • 01:29:34
    them objecting to the certification of
  • 01:29:36
    the election using intimidation and
  • 01:29:38
    violence that they have to to do it and
  • 01:29:39
    they were successful to some extent they
  • 01:29:40
    managed to delay the certification of
  • 01:29:42
    the vote but unfortunately there were
  • 01:29:43
    too many proud strong men most of whom
  • 01:29:45
    were Republicans people like bar people
  • 01:29:47
    like Pence um other lawmakers and other
  • 01:29:49
    bureaucrats inside the White House that
  • 01:29:50
    managed to stop and thwart Donald
  • 01:29:51
    Trump's plot to insurrecto the
  • 01:29:53
    government you make a lot of assumptions
  • 01:29:55
    about what a person's thinking inside of
  • 01:29:56
    their mind when they haven't actually
  • 01:29:58
    said anything that is what do you I what
  • 01:29:59
    do you think Donald Trump hasn't said
  • 01:30:00
    that I don't know well he never said go
  • 01:30:02
    down there and stop them and do all he
  • 01:30:04
    said we're going to go down there and
  • 01:30:05
    peacefully protest that's what he
  • 01:30:06
    actually said you then want to put
  • 01:30:08
    something else in his mind and in his
  • 01:30:10
    mouth just like you do for all of your
  • 01:30:12
    fellow Americans stop the steel what
  • 01:30:13
    does stop the steel
  • 01:30:15
    mean they he they believed that the
  • 01:30:17
    election was
  • 01:30:18
    stolen that is something that is fine
  • 01:30:20
    for a person to believe if you think the
  • 01:30:22
    election was stolen if you think the
  • 01:30:24
    election is stolen and you send a ton of
  • 01:30:26
    people down to the capital building
  • 01:30:28
    where they're certify protest why would
  • 01:30:30
    you peacefully protest a stolen election
  • 01:30:32
    no he didn't say he said I know you're
  • 01:30:34
    going to go and we're going to peace no
  • 01:30:37
    you're putting words in his he never
  • 01:30:38
    said that quote that you just made you
  • 01:30:39
    just invented that quote then you tell
  • 01:30:40
    me the words that he said when he said
  • 01:30:42
    go down violently take it no he said we
  • 01:30:43
    need to fight like hell you need to
  • 01:30:45
    fight like hell you're going to lose
  • 01:30:46
    your country he said we need to give
  • 01:30:47
    these uh weak Republicans you know
  • 01:30:49
    something to fight for we need to give
  • 01:30:50
    them a back we need to help the strong
  • 01:30:52
    ones they're going to help us like these
  • 01:30:53
    are he made these over I read you 20
  • 01:30:55
    statements that he made it an spey you
  • 01:30:57
    make things
  • 01:30:58
    up people are thinking you make things
  • 01:31:00
    up about what people are saying you're I
  • 01:31:03
    haven't made up a single thing you just
  • 01:31:04
    made FY land you live fanty land you
  • 01:31:07
    need to focus on facts Focus say why do
  • 01:31:10
    focus on what people say you're the one
  • 01:31:12
    that you don't even you didn't even know
  • 01:31:13
    what the legal theories were that you
  • 01:31:14
    wereing people that support RFK junr
  • 01:31:16
    just hateful they hate
  • 01:31:18
    the they do absolutely 1 million look
  • 01:31:21
    you're just making stuff up what am I
  • 01:31:23
    making up
  • 01:31:24
    I'm making up tip 35 says this is our
  • 01:31:28
    last one thanks for our I got to tell
  • 01:31:31
    you folks we really do appreciate our
  • 01:31:33
    speakers it's been a true pleasure we've
  • 01:31:34
    got one last question but I do want to
  • 01:31:36
    remind you they are linked both in the
  • 01:31:38
    description box and in the title you
  • 01:31:39
    click right there on the hyperlink in
  • 01:31:41
    the title and they're also linked in the
  • 01:31:43
    podcast as this debate will be on the
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    podcast within 24 hours you can find Our
  • 01:31:47
    Guest links in the description box even
  • 01:31:49
    if you disagree with them folks there's
  • 01:31:50
    so much value to going to the original
  • 01:31:53
    source going and hearing it straight
  • 01:31:55
    from the person so highly encourage you
  • 01:31:57
    check out both Kim and Steven's links
  • 01:31:59
    tip 35 says Kim can you think of a
  • 01:32:01
    Nation with a better form of government
  • 01:32:03
    than the United States if not then isn't
  • 01:32:06
    America one of the best Nations to lead
  • 01:32:07
    the world yes the United States is the
  • 01:32:10
    best country on Earth and there is no
  • 01:32:12
    other country with a better system than
  • 01:32:14
    ours and that is why we have to protect
  • 01:32:16
    it and we have to strengthen it and we
  • 01:32:18
    have to constantly work on our democracy
  • 01:32:20
    otherwise we can easily lose it we
  • 01:32:22
    cannot take it for granted we have to
  • 01:32:24
    understand that our system is delicate
  • 01:32:26
    that it was uh that it is that it is to
  • 01:32:29
    be cherished and it has to be protected
  • 01:32:31
    and that means democracy must be
  • 01:32:33
    protected at all costs and uh yeah I do
  • 01:32:36
    believe that America is the greatest
  • 01:32:38
    country on Earth and we have the best
  • 01:32:40
    system on
  • 01:32:42
    Earth thank you very much folks want to
  • 01:32:45
    say thanks so much for tuning in click
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    on Kim's and Steven's links hear it
  • 01:32:49
    straight from them yourself want to say
  • 01:32:52
    thank you very much Steve and Kim it's
  • 01:32:53
    been a true pleasure to have you
  • 01:32:56
    tonight thank you very much I'll be back
  • 01:32:59
    in a moment folks so stick around I'll
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    have a post credit scene about upcoming
  • 01:33:02
    debates be right back thank you both
  • 01:33:06
    very much it's been a true pleasure to
  • 01:33:07
    have you tonight yeah thanks a lot I'll
  • 01:33:10
    talk to you later thank you have a good
  • 01:33:12
    night okay well that was
  • 01:33:15
    cringe she's going to be hella mad about
  • 01:33:17
    that one for a while o
  • 01:33:25
    um okay well good job we did that one
  • 01:33:28
    talk about the debate for a couple
  • 01:33:29
    minutes um what is there to talk about I
  • 01:33:31
    mean there it's it's just a joke like
  • 01:33:36
    they have I don't think she had like she
  • 01:33:38
    does news for work right she does news
  • 01:33:41
    for this is her job and she doesn't know
  • 01:33:43
    like a single fact about literally
  • 01:33:47
    anything she doesn't know anything about
  • 01:33:49
    what's a single Trump policy what's a
  • 01:33:51
    single Democratic policy what's a single
  • 01:33:54
    anything um she has no
  • 01:33:57
    idea um yeah just yeah
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