The Tattoo Removal Saga | ENDEVR Documentary

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Summary

TLDRThe video explores the journey of Brian Widner, a former Neo-Nazi skinhead, who undergoes the painful process of removing racist tattoos from his face and body as a means of leaving behind a violent past and starting anew. Widner, once deeply immersed in the world of white supremacist skinhead subculture, fought to transform his life after meeting his wife, Julie, and the birth of his son. Struggling with the consequences of his past actions and the hate-filled philosophy he once believed in, Widner was heavily tattooed with symbols of racism and violence, which he decided to remove with the financial help of the Southern Poverty Law Center. The video chronicles his emotional and physical ordeal during the tattoo removal process, his reflections on the life he led, and the efforts he and his family made to rebuild their lives away from the hatred of Neo-Nazi teachings. Widner's story is one of redemption, struggle, and the transformative power of family support and love, showing that it is possible to leave behind a life of hate, despite the painful journey it often entails.

Takeaways

  • 🎯 Brian Widner was deeply involved in Neo-Nazi groups, symbolized through facial tattoos.
  • ❤️ Family, particularly his wife and son, motivated his transformation.
  • 🔄 Tattoo removal was part of a painful process of leaving his past behind.
  • 🏢 The Southern Poverty Law Center financially supported his tattoo removal.
  • 💬 Widner reflects on the violence and hatred he once professed.
  • 🛑 Widner's departure from the Neo-Nazi movement was fraught with threats and danger.
  • 🧠 Widner experienced an emotional journey of self-forgiveness and accountability.
  • 👁️ His tattoos served as painful reminders of his past, prompting their removal.
  • 👫 Widner's story underlines the transformative power of love and family.
  • 🔍 The process highlighted the need for patience and perseverance in personal change.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker discusses his entry into the world of white supremacist skinhead gangs at a young age. He describes tattoos that signify his commitment to his racist beliefs, including willingness to kill for his race. His philosophy centered on the belief that the white race was superior and needed to act to prevent its dilution, even committing murder if necessary.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The narrator describes his violent history and involvement with various racist groups. He speaks about his tattoos, earned through committing acts of violence against minorities, and how he used them as symbols of his extremism. Despite his past actions and the reasons behind them, he grapples with the reality of having a family and trying to integrate into regular society.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    He recounts the symbolic significance of his tattoos within his extremist circles and expresses regret and frustration over them. The narration delivers insight into his harsh upbringing and eventual gravitation towards white power groups as a substitute family due to his unstable home life.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    As his violence escalated, he joined more notorious white power groups. His actions and reputation among these groups highlighted the extreme violence and fear they spread. He recounts his history of unprovoked attacks on minorities, reinforcing the mindset that sustained his extremist actions over the years.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Letters of hate started to mean more as he ventured deeper into these circles of violence. Over time, the extremity of his actions became detrimental even to him personally. He begins the painful process of removing his facial tattoos, confronting feelings of regret and the implications of the scars that remain.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    The speaker shares the familial impact of his past beliefs and the challenge he faces explaining his change of heart, particularly to his children. The narrative briefly shifts to his background, exposing the seeds of racism planted early on, influenced by his family environment.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Julie's entry into the movement and her eventual disillusionment is highlighted. She explains how they were supposed to subtly infiltrate societal systems to enact change, rather than overt fanaticism. The episode stresses their increasingly dangerous situation as they moved out of the movement.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    The documentary portrays Brian and Julie's difficult transition from their violent pasts towards a new life. The support of unlikely allies facilitates Brian's tattoo removal, symbolizing a passage away from hate. It delves into his internal conflict and attempts to redeem his life through this transformative journey.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Despite the physical pain of tattoo removal, Brian's emotional journey is more profound as he grapples with understanding and forgiving his past actions. It explores his memories and relationships within the skinhead groups, acknowledging the deep psychological scars left.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Reflecting on his past, Brian describes the cycle of violence and hatred within the movement. The narrative illustrates the cult-like mentality and how this affects members' personal lives. It reveals his deep remorse and struggle for internal forgiveness.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:58:47

    The finale encapsulates Brian's complete physical transformation and emotional redemption. His journey represents not only the physical removal of his extremist past but also a strenuous effort to build a new life for himself and his family, highlighting his gratitude for those who supported his exit from the movement.

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Video Q&A

  • What was Brian Widner's past involvement with Neo-Nazi organizations?

    He was deeply involved with white supremacist groups, even having tattoos symbolizing racial hatred.

  • How did Brian Widner remove his Neo-Nazi tattoos?

    He underwent extensive laser tattoo removal treatments to eliminate racial tattoos from his face and body.

  • Who helped Brian Widner with the tattoo removal costs?

    The Southern Poverty Law Center offered financial support for his tattoo removal.

  • What challenges did Brian Widner face after leaving the white power movement?

    Widner faced threats and harassment after he decided to leave the Neo-Nazi movement.

  • What motivated Brian Widner to leave the Neo-Nazi lifestyle?

    He decided to commit to his family life, especially after his wife became pregnant.

  • What are the main themes discussed in the video?

    The video explores themes of redemption, transformation, family support, and the challenges of leaving extremist groups.

  • How was the tattoo removal process conducted?

    The tattoo removal involved multiple sessions using laser technology while under general anesthesia to mitigate pain.

  • How did Brian Widner become involved with Neo-Nazi groups initially?

    He started out as a member of white supremacist groups and eventually formed his own, advocating violence and racial purity.

  • What is Brian Widner's perspective on his past actions?

    Widner expressed regret and aimed to prevent others from making similar mistakes.

  • How did Brian Widner's family support him during his transformation?

    Julie, Brian's wife, provided support and encouragement through the tattoo removal process and transition to a new life.

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    [Music]
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    I'm going to hide in something cuz I
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    want to come with
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    [Music]
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    I started getting tattoos when I was
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    about 14 15 years old this arrow is tias
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    or tiar Rune in a noris religion what it
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    actually signifies is the Rune of
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    Justice or the Rune of the warrior
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    within most white power skin heads and
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    within that subculture it is a sign of
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    Warrior but it also represents the
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    willingness to kill for your race and so
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    you were willing to do that yes I was
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    willing to kill for the white race I put
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    on my face to signify that to those who
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    understood what it meant basically and
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    those who didn't understand well they
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    would learn soon enough that was kind of
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    the philosophy I resigned myself to
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    either prison or an early grave
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    ran Weidner first became a racist skin
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    head at the age of 14 in
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    1991 over the next 16 years he was a
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    member of several notorious Neo-Nazi
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    skin head organizations such as the
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    outlaw Hammer skins blood and honor and
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    the vinlander social
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    [Music]
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    club my racial philosophy was we were
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    the master race people were meant to
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    rule the world we created Society we
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    created economics we created everything
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    we were meant to rule and therefore it
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    was our god-given right to stand up and
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    take what was ours the white race was
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    dying it was getting bred out so we
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    needed to we needed to go to Extreme
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    Measures to save our people and what did
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    you consider extreme um at the time
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    murder wasn't extreme I mean but you
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    know it was kind of just one of those
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    things that could happen but now
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    hindsight it was you know driveby things
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    like that would be very
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    extreme we track a lot of the extremist
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    organizations out there as they come
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    across our desk and of course the skin
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    head movement is one of the most violent
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    and we first saw Brian pop up on our
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    radar when he was involved in a lot of
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    skin head activities going to functions
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    showing up in different intelligence
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    photos that we were collecting he was
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    kind of the Pitbull of the movement he
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    was uh an in- yourface type guy he was
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    uh loved to drink a beer uh was very
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    confrontational and had a reputation of
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    uh being an enforcer type uh
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    personality I got the hate tattooed
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    across my Knuckles when I was about 15 I
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    always like the word hate I thought it
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    was real cool at the time I was about 17
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    or 18 when I started getting sasos and
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    iron crosses and all that stuff on me I
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    really was embracing the whole Nazi skin
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    head thing at that time the SS bolts
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    they kind of speak for themselves you
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    can't be a Nazi without a pair of ss
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    bolts on you back in the day and the
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    late 80s and early 90s you were required
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    to actually earn your bolts quote
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    unquote and what you had to do was
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    actually attack a minority oneon-one and
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    beat them down so I I earned mine years
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    ago when he got the tattoos done he
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    didn't expect to have a family and he
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    came into our household into our lives
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    and became the father became a husband
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    and so he didn't no when he got him put
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    on that he would end up in this position
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    did you scream no she's still
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    complaining
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    last time last time she did that this is
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    the vinlander SC which stands for social
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    club it's a Neo-Nazi organization of a
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    bunch of skin heads I was a founding
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    father of that club I got Thug Reich
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    tattooed on my belly the reason why I
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    got it was we were thugs the Reich was
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    for the Third Reich the whole Nazi
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    aspect so I just kind of combined the
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    two and came up with that it almost
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    became a motto for a lot of
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    guys no take one for the team here you
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    go I'm used to them because I got to
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    know who he is and like instead of like
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    just being someone on the streets and
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    seeing him and they judge him I see him
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    for who he is blood honor was an
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    organization that was uh created by the
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    late Ian Stewart Donaldson the lead
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    singer of
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    screwdriver it was a skin head
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    organization in the late 7s early ' 80s
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    in the '90s it split into two different
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    factions blood honor International and
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    blood and honor combat 18 the blood
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    honor I belonged to was combat 18 or c18
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    the8 stands for um one and eight for the
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    letter a and the letter H for Adolf
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    Hitler you have
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    yours is that good when I saw tears and
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    born I I mean I saw God that day that
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    was one of
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    the strangest greatest feelings that
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    I'll probably never feel again you know
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    is the first time you ever hold a baby
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    that kind of love is just it's amazing
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    it's truly amazing and it's really hard
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    to put it into words I mean he's every
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    breath I take is for him I mean I just
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    want to do everything for him give him
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    everything I never had you know I used
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    to carry a straight Razer and I I'd use
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    it to in in bar fights and whatnot it
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    was I kind of put it on my face as more
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    as a trademark and also a warning to
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    people you know just basically to leave
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    me the [ __ ] alone or I'll cut you so and
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    how is carrying a straight Razer
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    different than some of your other crew
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    members um a lot of them carry brass
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    knuckles or pistols things like that
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    I I you know I like pistols just as much
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    as the next guy but my I just always I
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    like the up close and personal battles I
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    always thought those were a lot more fun
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    than you know sitting across the street
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    and shooting at people so the straight
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    razor was just kind of my weapon of
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    choice plus a Razer cut goes a lot
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    deeper than you know just a regular stab
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    usually you can you can get some good
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    meat on
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    it if I started getting into a situation
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    I couldn't handle with just my fist and
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    my feet I would pull it out like a yeah
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    in a bar fight if you know three four
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    guys decided to jump SP on me I would
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    I'd pull it out and lay a couple people
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    open and uh then all of them wouldn't
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    jump on me it was a pretty good
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    deterrent at that point or if I wanted
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    to teach somebody a lesson that they
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    couldn't forget if they ever wanted to I
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    would uh pull it out and cut
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    them what do you think now of all these
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    tattoos on your face they drive me nuts
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    it's just a bad reminder of uh of a part
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    of my life that I left behind
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    Brian Widner grew up in Albuquerque New
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    Mexico when I was about 3 years old I
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    moved in with my grandparents along with
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    my little
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    sister my grandmother was a severe
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    alcoholic I was told that I was pretty
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    well worthless um I wouldn't ever amount
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    anything this or that by the age of 13
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    14 I just started running away all the
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    time I became a chronic runaway at that
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    point just started Living on the
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    streets at the age of 18 Brian joined
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    his first white power skin head group
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    the soldiers of the new Reich when I was
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    a teenager I didn't have any family I
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    had my friends that's all I had and
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    basically my Crews were my family I mean
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    statistically speaking gang members
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    don't join gangs because it's cool they
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    join gangs because usually they're
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    Street kids they're destitute and they
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    have
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    nothing as Brian's appetite for violence
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    increased he moved to Indiana and
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    enlisted in The Outlaw Hammer skins a
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    crew started by hardcore skin heads who
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    had been kicked out of the national
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    umbrella group Hammer skin
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    Nation hammerskins had such a reputation
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    that they demanded respect they demanded
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    fear I mean if a hammer skin came to a
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    party you knew it and everybody TR you
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    know tread treaded very lightly around
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    them they were known for being
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    incredibly violent incredibly tough so
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    everybody was very weary around Hammer
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    skins for the most part and everybody
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    wanted to
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    join I was what they call a pit they'
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    point sick
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    them if somebody was you know [ __ ]
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    with one of our guys at a bar or
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    something they just kind of point me in
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    the direction and I'd go go [ __ ] him up
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    basically we were a very extreme group
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    and we were really hardcore we put it
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    out there on the internet don't screw
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    with us we will kill you and that's how
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    we lived our philosophy we will kill you
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    extreme violence is a great way to make
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    a name for yourself in the skin head
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    subculture skinheads Embrace violence
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    that's their bread and butter that's
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    what they love that's what they do
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    every time we drove around we had guns
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    ball bats and knives in our cars it
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    could be um you know you see a black guy
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    and a white girl walking down the road
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    you know we just pull a block away from
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    them and get out and rush them have two
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    go around the block to come up behind
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    them so they can't escape so they get
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    sandwiched in and usually demolished
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    pretty
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    good how long would this usually take
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    this a beat down any usually just a
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    couple seconds I mean a real long one be
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    like 10 15 seconds it's really a hit and
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    run oh yeah yeah and then we got out of
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    there and we went and celebrated because
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    we did a great
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    thing and it was a good
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    time causing people pain was fun to
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    us well I went to the doctor yesterday
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    and uh talked to him about getting my
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    facial tattoos taken off and the ones on
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    my neck what did they say um well they
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    can come off um that's going to be a
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    good thing he's uh going to do laser
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    surgery on the 22nd it's going to
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    probably be very painful and you going
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    to scar on your face and head I might
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    the possibility of scarring is there but
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    chances are pretty pretty
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    little how are you going to get them off
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    with a laser he's going to burn them off
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    my skin basically it's intense you're
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    worried about Daddy getting his tattoos
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    your M yes you're afraid you won't
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    recognize Daddy I we don't recognize him
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    his face would be different face will be
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    different yeah Daddy's handsome though
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    it'll look great without them it looks
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    great with them but it' be
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    great I think it might be a little
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    painful for the healing but I think
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    it'll like I think he'll enjoy it and
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    stuff I love the
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    paint enjoying the
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    paint the outcome what do you think what
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    do you think when Daddy gets his tattoos
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    removed what do you think
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    all right all
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    [Music]
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    right racism just seemed normal when I
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    was younger I'm talking 3 4 5 years old
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    I still remember hearing my dad say the
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    nword after Julie's parents divorced she
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    bounced between her mother's home in
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    Arizona and her father's in
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    Detroit I had a very bad case of racism
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    in me uh of course I Tred not to show my
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    racism to my children but if they hung
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    around me very long they'd know it
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    because I was a
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    racist as a child we were taught that
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    the minorities blacks were like a germ
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    you didn't go where they went you didn't
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    sit where they sat we were better than
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    them that was
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    normal the only way to describe it is
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    that the blacks and minorities were like
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    a cockroach they were like second class
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    citizens I got started in the movement
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    by my former husband he had been in
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    prison for 4 years and learned about the
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    movement through the prison system at
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    age 29 Julie joined the National
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    Alliance the National Alliance is a
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    Neo-Nazi movement and this particular
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    organization is not the kind that goes
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    around wearing swas stickers and brown
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    shirts you know they were looking for a
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    more subtle member because they felt
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    like if their members were in the system
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    they could make more
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    changes we would take propaganda and
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    distribute the Flyers on people's doors
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    and do these flyer runs to get media
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    attention and tried to recruit War the
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    pen I
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    guess after 16 years in the movement
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    Brian along with his wife Julie became
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    disillusioned despite repeated death
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    threats they got out
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    you have to understand this is a culture
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    that in their minds they believe death
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    before dishonor and to them dishonor is
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    when somebody leaves the movement so
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    almost always the initial reaction is
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    one of threats one of uh potential
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    assaults Brian and Julie packed up their
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    family left their Michigan home and
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    moved to Tennessee to be close to
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    Julie's
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    father but starting a new hasn't been
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    easy I mean when I was skin head I
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    really didn't care about work you know
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    was the only thing I cared about was is
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    getting in fights and getting drunk when
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    you have a family to support it's a
  • 00:13:32
    completely different ball game usually
  • 00:13:34
    it just boils down to they're going to
  • 00:13:36
    make excuses on why they don't have to
  • 00:13:38
    hire me as opposed to just saying well
  • 00:13:39
    we don't like the way you look no one
  • 00:13:40
    wants the circus freak next to him
  • 00:13:42
    getting a paycheck I guess well I feel
  • 00:13:43
    like I'm going through it with him
  • 00:13:45
    because I try to help him find jobs
  • 00:13:47
    looking online in the
  • 00:13:49
    newspaper and then when he comes back
  • 00:13:51
    from job hunting it's usually a very
  • 00:13:53
    sobering experience for him he gets um
  • 00:13:57
    depressed and so I have to be the
  • 00:14:00
    uplifter cheer him up and encourage him
  • 00:14:03
    I know exactly what it's like to be a
  • 00:14:05
    black man and have uh being
  • 00:14:06
    discriminated against because of the way
  • 00:14:08
    you look I completely identify with them
  • 00:14:13
    now broke and without a job Brian had
  • 00:14:16
    little hope of erasing his racist
  • 00:14:19
    tattoos enter an unlikely
  • 00:14:22
    Ally the Southern Poverty Law Center or
  • 00:14:26
    splc is a nonprofit civil rights
  • 00:14:29
    organization that tracks extremist
  • 00:14:31
    groups and fights them in
  • 00:14:33
    court Brian contacted us because we had
  • 00:14:36
    published an article about the vinlander
  • 00:14:38
    social club which was an organization
  • 00:14:40
    that he was involved in splc
  • 00:14:43
    investigators Joe Roy and Lori wood
  • 00:14:45
    asked to meet with Brian and Julie hey
  • 00:14:48
    do you remember at uh Nordic f with I've
  • 00:14:51
    seen a lot of people that want to come
  • 00:14:52
    out of the movement and just can't
  • 00:14:54
    underneath all that ink was a family
  • 00:14:55
    struggling to get out to get back into
  • 00:14:58
    society for themselves and for the
  • 00:15:00
    children when we first met them we were
  • 00:15:02
    talking obviously about my facial
  • 00:15:04
    tattoos cuz that always comes up in
  • 00:15:05
    conversations and I was actually looking
  • 00:15:08
    on eBay at the time for uh dermal acid
  • 00:15:10
    to burn them off my skin when I first
  • 00:15:12
    heard about that I was terrified that uh
  • 00:15:14
    they would even consider that the
  • 00:15:16
    Southern Poverty Law Center offered to
  • 00:15:18
    cover the cost of Brian's tattoo removal
  • 00:15:22
    procedures if I can prevent one other
  • 00:15:25
    kid from making the same mistakes I did
  • 00:15:27
    if I can prevent one other family from
  • 00:15:29
    having to go through the same the same
  • 00:15:31
    crap that I put my family through maybe
  • 00:15:34
    I can redeem myself and maybe it'll be
  • 00:15:35
    worth
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    [Music]
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    it the difficulty with Brian is the
  • 00:15:44
    number of them I mean it's just you know
  • 00:15:45
    he's got so many so the biggest
  • 00:15:47
    challenge with him will be just a very
  • 00:15:49
    large area of the surface of skin that
  • 00:15:51
    we're going to have to treat Dr Bruce
  • 00:15:53
    Shack elects to treat Brian's tattoos in
  • 00:15:56
    a staged fashion working on segments of
  • 00:15:59
    his face and neck in a rotating manner
  • 00:16:02
    he anticipates the entire process will
  • 00:16:05
    require 8 to 12 sessions I'm just going
  • 00:16:08
    to give you a little touch test here
  • 00:16:12
    bro that hurt oh yeah then we need to U
  • 00:16:15
    we need to numb him up then okay you
  • 00:16:17
    wouldn't want a lot of that then huh no
  • 00:16:18
    not at all that really hurts okay all
  • 00:16:21
    right I'm going to give you some numbing
  • 00:16:22
    medicine a good response though is it
  • 00:16:25
    yeah I'm sorry HT for a minute yeah this
  • 00:16:28
    this part will stink for a few seconds
  • 00:16:30
    but then it'll get
  • 00:16:32
    numb unfortunately for something like
  • 00:16:35
    this with these randomly placed tattoos
  • 00:16:37
    it's hard to do a single shot and get it
  • 00:16:39
    done You' got so much and it's not the
  • 00:16:41
    little needle sticks that hurt so much
  • 00:16:43
    this local anesthetic has a pH that's a
  • 00:16:45
    little bit acidic so it stings when it
  • 00:16:47
    goes in but during that process
  • 00:16:49
    especially when you're having to treat a
  • 00:16:50
    large area every little shot you feel
  • 00:16:52
    that stting it's not a pleasant
  • 00:16:55
    process great just Tak a SL deep breath
  • 00:16:57
    I know I know in and out
  • 00:16:59
    be nice and easy this is another tender
  • 00:17:02
    place
  • 00:17:07
    here okay no that's tough that's tough
  • 00:17:11
    Duty I us to tell people that all the
  • 00:17:13
    time the tattoo shop
  • 00:17:15
    sissies I know well I mean the the
  • 00:17:18
    coming off is frequently more painful
  • 00:17:20
    than the going on
  • 00:17:21
    unfortunately Brian receives
  • 00:17:23
    approximately 30 injections on just one
  • 00:17:27
    side of his face
  • 00:17:31
    okay I know that's bad we still got to
  • 00:17:34
    do the
  • 00:17:35
    nose yeah I was kind of saving that for
  • 00:17:37
    last I was going to bring it up till you
  • 00:17:40
    did just going to start on this upper
  • 00:17:43
    part of the nose where it'll be a little
  • 00:17:44
    bit less sensive you remember how this
  • 00:17:46
    tattoo felt going on I
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    bet almost
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    done I'm sorry
  • 00:17:56
    buddy almost done
  • 00:18:02
    that's it that's
  • 00:18:04
    it oh
  • 00:18:07
    man that's it though just hold some
  • 00:18:09
    pressure there now we're going to wait a
  • 00:18:11
    minute okay let you catch your
  • 00:18:13
    breath that's the horrible
  • 00:18:15
    part all right
  • 00:18:18
    buddy I want to be in there it's driving
  • 00:18:20
    me
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    NDS I'm always there through a surgeries
  • 00:18:24
    through everything this is just kind of
  • 00:18:27
    strange cuz it's there's I mean it's
  • 00:18:28
    pointless you
  • 00:18:30
    know for me to do anything but at least
  • 00:18:32
    hold his hand like I usually do but I
  • 00:18:34
    don't think I'd be able to do that I'd
  • 00:18:35
    have to be in the other room
  • 00:18:39
    anyhow I met Julie at Nordic Fest 2005
  • 00:18:42
    it was a light power concert out in
  • 00:18:47
    Kentucky you go out there and you camp
  • 00:18:49
    and listen to you know few bands play
  • 00:18:51
    and drink beer basically all weekend and
  • 00:18:53
    uh she was out there with the kids the
  • 00:18:55
    reason my mommy and my daddy Mar is
  • 00:18:59
    because of me and why is that cuz I
  • 00:19:02
    wanted a picture with them there's
  • 00:19:04
    probably about two three almost 3 years
  • 00:19:07
    old and she went up to him and she's up
  • 00:19:10
    at his leg TR to pulling his leg and
  • 00:19:12
    wanted a picture with him and I remember
  • 00:19:15
    that so I asked him do you mind if she
  • 00:19:16
    takes a picture with him and she got her
  • 00:19:19
    picture with him and that's how that's
  • 00:19:20
    how me and Daddy met
  • 00:19:22
    huh yeah I got a picture with her and
  • 00:19:25
    then I I chatted with Julie a little bit
  • 00:19:27
    she was just really cool and and I I
  • 00:19:29
    just thought wow she's just a really
  • 00:19:30
    cool chick and we really didn't talk a
  • 00:19:33
    whole lot at Nordic Fest we we started
  • 00:19:34
    talking a couple months later actually
  • 00:19:37
    over the phone we'd have all these
  • 00:19:39
    conversations late at night on what we
  • 00:19:40
    wanted in life how we both wanted a
  • 00:19:42
    family you know how our childhoods were
  • 00:19:45
    she was easy to talk to I I always liked
  • 00:19:48
    hearing her stories I mean it was just
  • 00:19:50
    there was just something about her I
  • 00:19:51
    think a lot of times even though we just
  • 00:19:53
    talked on the phone sometimes it's
  • 00:19:55
    easier to get to know somebody CU
  • 00:19:57
    they're not afraid of um you judging
  • 00:19:59
    them one night after I got home from the
  • 00:20:02
    bar I got in a bar fight and I was pissy
  • 00:20:05
    and I was about half drunk and I just
  • 00:20:06
    called her up and proposed I was like
  • 00:20:08
    you know [ __ ] it I want to raise a
  • 00:20:09
    family now I'm done with this I called
  • 00:20:11
    her up and proposed and she accepted cuz
  • 00:20:14
    she's
  • 00:20:16
    crazy and we just got married at the
  • 00:20:19
    justice of the peace you had to become
  • 00:20:21
    engaged to somebody i' only met in
  • 00:20:23
    person once and talked on the phone for
  • 00:20:24
    a couple months was pretty crazy I love
  • 00:20:27
    my wife my wife is my rock she was a
  • 00:20:31
    gift from God that's all there really is
  • 00:20:32
    to that she saved my
  • 00:20:36
    life everybody goggle up this goggling
  • 00:20:38
    up try this again okay that better
  • 00:20:43
    much we start with what we know will be
  • 00:20:45
    a safe dose we watch for the response we
  • 00:20:49
    don't want to see any bleeding we want
  • 00:20:50
    to just see that little white frosting
  • 00:20:52
    on the surface of the
  • 00:20:55
    skin we're getting a really good
  • 00:20:56
    response here though Brian good good
  • 00:21:00
    some of these areas you can tell that
  • 00:21:02
    the Ink's a little deeper
  • 00:21:04
    mhm well like I said you may feel an
  • 00:21:07
    occasional twing where you just have a
  • 00:21:08
    little spot that didn't quite get
  • 00:21:14
    numb and that popping sound you hear is
  • 00:21:16
    the exploding of that pigment as it
  • 00:21:18
    breaks it up into smaller granules okay
  • 00:21:22
    okay we start the big AA
  • 00:21:26
    now how long's the number going to last
  • 00:21:29
    for it'll last for a couple of hours
  • 00:21:31
    okay and then you'll start to feel this
  • 00:21:35
    Burning as it begins to wear off oh I'm
  • 00:21:38
    sorry that
  • 00:21:40
    hurting we're
  • 00:21:44
    good let's get out of that spot
  • 00:21:59
    almost
  • 00:22:02
    done we're almost done turn your head
  • 00:22:05
    towards me just a little bit BR another
  • 00:22:08
    Bo I think that's got
  • 00:22:11
    it okay you did great buddy for first
  • 00:22:15
    round that was tough I know but you did
  • 00:22:17
    great all right thank you yeah you're
  • 00:22:18
    welcome my friend
  • 00:22:24
    [Music]
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    the first couple hours after surgery I
  • 00:22:32
    was still numb so that was nice but
  • 00:22:34
    after the Nova cane or whatever they
  • 00:22:36
    used wore off it felt like somebody took
  • 00:22:39
    a uh propane torch to my face it was
  • 00:22:42
    pretty scary woke up in the middle of
  • 00:22:44
    night he was in a lot of pain and
  • 00:22:47
    uh didn't expect the swelling so he uh
  • 00:22:52
    he looks like he's pretty
  • 00:22:54
    miserable the doctor said it would feel
  • 00:22:57
    like the worst sunburnt of ever felt in
  • 00:22:58
    my life right now it feels like I got my
  • 00:23:00
    head stomped in with a boot really no
  • 00:23:03
    burning sensation at all it's just all
  • 00:23:06
    the swelling just really really hurts
  • 00:23:08
    and I mean obviously it looks like I've
  • 00:23:10
    been clubbed so that's about how it
  • 00:23:12
    feels right now miss your face it's way
  • 00:23:16
    more swellen I know it's progressively
  • 00:23:19
    swelling more glasses you keep telling
  • 00:23:22
    me to do that well because have no de
  • 00:23:24
    perception they looks like it's oh my
  • 00:23:27
    God it's just the air
  • 00:23:29
    on the face especially around the eye is
  • 00:23:30
    so sens like that after you got tattooed
  • 00:23:32
    oh yeah I it wasn't this bad but I mean
  • 00:23:34
    I when when I got tattoos around my I
  • 00:23:36
    ended up with a Shiner it's almost
  • 00:23:38
    tempting to take a pierc lance it just
  • 00:23:40
    to get the pressure out but that might
  • 00:23:42
    just add more bad than good tears him
  • 00:23:45
    nice look at Daddy's owie look at
  • 00:23:47
    Daddy's OWI Daddy got OE daddy
  • 00:23:50
    [Music]
  • 00:23:52
    owie hopefully the ice packs will make
  • 00:23:55
    it go down but yeah it's not
  • 00:23:56
    discouraging him he said it's all part
  • 00:23:58
    of the
  • 00:23:58
    process don't like to see I'm in pain
  • 00:24:01
    but everything has a
  • 00:24:11
    price shortly before his second
  • 00:24:13
    treatment Brian is visited by his old
  • 00:24:15
    friend Eric
  • 00:24:16
    mying it's the first time since leaving
  • 00:24:19
    the skin heads that Brian has seen one
  • 00:24:21
    of his former
  • 00:24:25
    mates the first couple nights when we
  • 00:24:27
    were together yeah we reminisced quite a
  • 00:24:29
    bit cuz we hadn't seen each other in
  • 00:24:31
    over 5 years so there was a lot of
  • 00:24:34
    emotion flowing between the two of us
  • 00:24:35
    the whole Bromance thing going on you
  • 00:24:37
    know but after the first couple days it
  • 00:24:39
    was just business as
  • 00:24:45
    usual we're trying to get rid of some of
  • 00:24:47
    the old racialist tattoos and some of
  • 00:24:49
    the old like gang thuggery style tattoos
  • 00:24:52
    and stuff like that kind of brighten His
  • 00:24:55
    Image just because I'm getting him off
  • 00:24:57
    my face doesn't I mean I hate tattoos I
  • 00:24:59
    still like getting them um like on the
  • 00:25:01
    arms and chest and back and things like
  • 00:25:02
    that is still socially
  • 00:25:04
    acceptable we've been planed on meeting
  • 00:25:07
    up with each other since like about 6
  • 00:25:09
    months ago I was kind of leery at first
  • 00:25:11
    I thought he was still with the club and
  • 00:25:12
    it was kind of like a setup thing or
  • 00:25:14
    something you know set up to get beat up
  • 00:25:17
    murdered whatever you know that was
  • 00:25:20
    pretty not popular in that Club Circle
  • 00:25:22
    for a while always suspicious of uh
  • 00:25:25
    those we used to hang out with I mean
  • 00:25:27
    it's uh we you know what they're capable
  • 00:25:29
    of yeah put it that
  • 00:25:33
    way we uh actually met back when I was
  • 00:25:36
    about 14 or 15 at a uh Clan rally out in
  • 00:25:40
    Denver Colorado Martin Luther King Jr
  • 00:25:43
    Day rally we're actually singing the
  • 00:25:45
    Praises of James Earl Ray yeah we used
  • 00:25:46
    to joke about how it was called James
  • 00:25:48
    Earl Ray day not Martin Luther King Jr
  • 00:25:50
    Day
  • 00:25:53
    yeah I got out in about what 2004 right
  • 00:25:56
    around there
  • 00:25:58
    [Music]
  • 00:25:59
    I I had a little bit of a drug problem
  • 00:26:01
    some people and the higher ups had it
  • 00:26:03
    out for me and stuff so uh I was asleep
  • 00:26:06
    on a friend of mine's couch and I got
  • 00:26:08
    pistol whipped almost to death and uh
  • 00:26:11
    actually those guys were going to kill
  • 00:26:13
    me and he kind of told him not to so I
  • 00:26:16
    kind of owe my life to this guy one of
  • 00:26:18
    the guys in the club had it out for Eric
  • 00:26:20
    R Batman we had a meeting and the same
  • 00:26:23
    gentleman uh was talking at the meeting
  • 00:26:25
    about trying to put a hit out on Eric
  • 00:26:27
    and uh I was one of the two people that
  • 00:26:29
    stood up
  • 00:26:31
    and said no just because you know it's
  • 00:26:33
    it was it was enough that Eric was
  • 00:26:35
    pretty well at that time black bald and
  • 00:26:38
    we felt that was enough than you know
  • 00:26:40
    than to kill him
  • 00:26:41
    for for some dumb [ __ ] and um I could
  • 00:26:46
    understand if Eric went off and killed
  • 00:26:47
    this dude's son or something like that
  • 00:26:49
    you know but because he had a drug
  • 00:26:50
    problem that's why this other guy wanted
  • 00:26:52
    to put a hit on Eric and that was the
  • 00:26:54
    only reason he could
  • 00:26:56
    give hi
  • 00:27:00
    oh you're just going to come hang out
  • 00:27:07
    huh hello hi
  • 00:27:10
    buddy oh
  • 00:27:13
    son you got a loaded diaper over there
  • 00:27:16
    son no he's just being a
  • 00:27:19
    ham
  • 00:27:21
    fart did you poo poo yeah go tell Mama I
  • 00:27:24
    thought he did I smelled it I was like
  • 00:27:26
    who [ __ ] go tell Mama
  • 00:27:30
    yes I love you go tell
  • 00:27:36
    [Music]
  • 00:27:37
    [Applause]
  • 00:27:41
    [Music]
  • 00:27:44
    Mama the night was pretty rough I ended
  • 00:27:47
    up waking up about 2: 2:30 something
  • 00:27:49
    like that and uh falling back asleep
  • 00:27:52
    about 4:00 and then getting back up at
  • 00:27:53
    7:00 the pain is the worst part it just
  • 00:27:56
    it really aches really bad bad feels
  • 00:27:59
    like my face is just trying to bust out
  • 00:28:02
    I just don't like seeing my dad like it
  • 00:28:05
    looks like he's like crying but he he's
  • 00:28:08
    not I just don't like seeing my dad like
  • 00:28:11
    that now I was ask him if he can see out
  • 00:28:14
    of that eye and he says not very well
  • 00:28:17
    cuz it's like his eyes all covered
  • 00:28:21
    up I'm going to the pharmacy to get his
  • 00:28:23
    prescription his pain medicine the
  • 00:28:25
    second treatment has been a little bit
  • 00:28:27
    hard harder for me to watch him go
  • 00:28:29
    through cuz I know how much pain he was
  • 00:28:31
    in the first
  • 00:28:33
    treatment it hurts to see people you
  • 00:28:35
    love in
  • 00:28:37
    pain it's incredibly painful on the next
  • 00:28:40
    day I mean the swelling they just so
  • 00:28:41
    much pressure in my face you it just
  • 00:28:43
    hurts there was some swelling at the
  • 00:28:45
    hospital and by the time we got home it
  • 00:28:47
    was pretty poofed out by about 10:00
  • 00:28:50
    last night my eye was already almost
  • 00:28:51
    this bad and it just progressively just
  • 00:28:53
    keeps getting worse since Eric's come to
  • 00:28:56
    visit they've talked a lot and I think
  • 00:28:58
    it's brought up a lot of the Old Wounds
  • 00:29:00
    from the past stuff they did and stuff
  • 00:29:02
    that he's been trying to forget and I
  • 00:29:05
    guess forgive himself for some of the
  • 00:29:06
    stuff he's done so bringing up stuff
  • 00:29:09
    that he went through and he did and who
  • 00:29:11
    he was I think has made him really
  • 00:29:13
    depressed
  • 00:29:22
    lately look at this picture here this is
  • 00:29:25
    uh Brian when he started to get his face
  • 00:29:28
    tattooed actually he's uh all mean
  • 00:29:31
    mugging and drunked up in that picture
  • 00:29:33
    there here's Brian's patch his old
  • 00:29:36
    Hammer skin patch which I blacked out
  • 00:29:38
    it's right here and uh this picture here
  • 00:29:41
    is a picture of the night that Brian was
  • 00:29:44
    made and uh there's myself there that
  • 00:29:47
    was the night that I got put on
  • 00:29:48
    probation that was the night that he got
  • 00:29:50
    made yes that was that I took my oath as
  • 00:29:53
    a hammer skin which basically U all the
  • 00:29:55
    other maid members stood around in a
  • 00:29:57
    circle holding torches and the uh person
  • 00:30:00
    who was getting the patch had to go up
  • 00:30:02
    to the president and he put his hand one
  • 00:30:04
    hand on a patch and another hand on a
  • 00:30:05
    gun and swore a Blood Oath basically to
  • 00:30:08
    everybody within the club that they
  • 00:30:10
    would be by them until their dying day
  • 00:30:11
    and this and that and that you would uh
  • 00:30:12
    kill or die for your
  • 00:30:14
    patch this is like a defining moment for
  • 00:30:17
    him and I both like at this point in
  • 00:30:19
    time
  • 00:30:20
    so that was a about 15 months of hard
  • 00:30:23
    work paying off for me that was the
  • 00:30:25
    night that Mark made OS too yep
  • 00:30:28
    and uh what's OS official supporter
  • 00:30:31
    there's like levels of being you know
  • 00:30:33
    becoming a hammer skin you got to be a
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    hang on for what was it at least 6
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    months MH then you had to be an official
  • 00:30:38
    supporter for at least 6 months for 6
  • 00:30:40
    months and then you had to probate for
  • 00:30:42
    at least 6 months you got to probate for
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    a
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    year and here's a picture of the uh
  • 00:30:49
    Indiana
  • 00:30:51
    Justice that's a that was on Matt
  • 00:30:53
    McGrath's forarm yeah that was a pretty
  • 00:30:56
    notoriously well-known tattoo three the
  • 00:30:58
    white power movement this is a new
  • 00:31:00
    surround his neck here it's supposed to
  • 00:31:03
    symbolize a lynching of a black
  • 00:31:09
    guy sitting back looking at all these
  • 00:31:11
    pictures kind of reminiscing what goes
  • 00:31:13
    to the head when you're doing
  • 00:31:15
    this for me it's like I can't believe
  • 00:31:19
    what who I used to be you know in
  • 00:31:21
    comparisons to how much I've changed and
  • 00:31:24
    everything and just like my whole
  • 00:31:26
    thoughts about you know accepting other
  • 00:31:28
    people and just it's hard really it's
  • 00:31:31
    kind of hard it's
  • 00:31:34
    uh hard hard in what way I can't believe
  • 00:31:38
    that I was that person you know that I
  • 00:31:40
    that I had that how do I explain this
  • 00:31:43
    like that little respect for other human
  • 00:31:46
    beings you know that little respect for
  • 00:31:47
    other human life other outside of the
  • 00:31:50
    people that were in these pictures I
  • 00:31:51
    didn't give a [ __ ] about any other
  • 00:31:53
    person that walked on the face of the
  • 00:31:55
    Earth that was it you know that was our
  • 00:31:58
    family when you get in the movement it's
  • 00:32:01
    almost like you alienate everything you
  • 00:32:03
    know and everyone you know it's like
  • 00:32:05
    this is your new family and there's
  • 00:32:06
    nothing else exists like he said there's
  • 00:32:08
    nobody nothing else outside of this box
  • 00:32:10
    and that's it you come to this thought
  • 00:32:14
    that everybody outside of the movement
  • 00:32:17
    they just have no clue they're just you
  • 00:32:19
    alienate them I think it's a gradual
  • 00:32:21
    thing you know it's like I went from
  • 00:32:23
    talking to my mom to once a day to once
  • 00:32:25
    a week to once a month you know it's um
  • 00:32:28
    it's like a cult almost you you just
  • 00:32:30
    give up everything outside of it because
  • 00:32:32
    everything that you're learning is right
  • 00:32:34
    and nobody else outside of this movement
  • 00:32:38
    just hasn't any knowledge like everyone
  • 00:32:39
    nobody has a clue you know so it's just
  • 00:32:41
    it's almost like a cult I have a hard
  • 00:32:43
    time forgiving myself cuz I did a lot of
  • 00:32:45
    bad [ __ ] to earn that piece of Ink on my
  • 00:32:46
    arm you know and the piece of cloth on
  • 00:32:48
    my chest I it's it's like opening Old
  • 00:32:52
    Wounds and I just did so much bad [ __ ]
  • 00:32:55
    to people that didn't deserve it that
  • 00:32:58
    every time I see these pictures or start
  • 00:33:00
    thinking about it that's that's what it
  • 00:33:03
    is and I can't I just I can't forgive
  • 00:33:05
    myself and I was a grown man I should
  • 00:33:07
    have known better than to act like a
  • 00:33:09
    stupid gang banger but I tried I try I
  • 00:33:11
    try and I know it says in the Bible you
  • 00:33:13
    got to forgive yourself cuz God forgives
  • 00:33:14
    you but you know I may be forgiven by
  • 00:33:16
    him but I I'm having a hard time really
  • 00:33:19
    forgiving myself for all the bad [ __ ]
  • 00:33:21
    that I've done it's almost nauseating
  • 00:33:23
    isn't it like sometimes it's like you
  • 00:33:25
    look at this and it's like disappointing
  • 00:33:28
    and it's not even nauseating it don't
  • 00:33:30
    even make me angry anymore makes me
  • 00:33:31
    disappointed in the decisions that I've
  • 00:33:33
    made you know I lose sleep at night from
  • 00:33:37
    [ __ ] that I did to people or you know I
  • 00:33:40
    [ __ ] that that happened to me I I don't
  • 00:33:42
    I'll I'll just lay awake and just think
  • 00:33:43
    all [ __ ] night long
  • 00:33:46
    and it's uh it's hard it's really hard I
  • 00:33:49
    guess I haven't moved on I'm
  • 00:33:56
    trying you're kicking out some serious
  • 00:33:59
    heat
  • 00:34:01
    sorry you okay mhm is the stuff wearing
  • 00:34:05
    off
  • 00:34:07
    [Music]
  • 00:34:15
    mhm it's Brian's thirdd treatment but
  • 00:34:18
    it's the first on his neck I'm going to
  • 00:34:21
    start slipping you some cocktails while
  • 00:34:22
    we get these monitors put
  • 00:34:26
    on because of Brian 's neck sensitivity
  • 00:34:29
    the decision is made to use general
  • 00:34:31
    anesthesia since he'll be asleep Dr Shaq
  • 00:34:35
    decides to also treat one side of
  • 00:34:37
    Brian's
  • 00:34:39
    face everybody goggle up is goggling up
  • 00:34:42
    just like Will Smith said in many black
  • 00:34:44
    difference between me and you I make
  • 00:34:46
    this look
  • 00:34:49
    good all right here we
  • 00:34:51
    go when you run something so hot
  • 00:34:54
    eventually it burns out and that's what
  • 00:34:55
    we did with the outlaw Hammer skins we
  • 00:34:56
    ran so extreme that we just everything
  • 00:34:58
    burnt up me and Brian James and a bunch
  • 00:35:00
    of the other guys who hung around with
  • 00:35:02
    the outlaw Hammer skins decided we were
  • 00:35:03
    going to start one more crew and make an
  • 00:35:05
    attempt to take it over the whole white
  • 00:35:07
    power skin head movement they formed the
  • 00:35:09
    hooer state skin heads my role when we
  • 00:35:13
    first started was basically to start
  • 00:35:15
    chapters and then move on I would pick
  • 00:35:18
    up a chapter set up leadership in the
  • 00:35:19
    area and then go to another city and
  • 00:35:21
    being in the tattoo industry that was a
  • 00:35:22
    perfect job for me I didn't have family
  • 00:35:24
    so I just bounced everywhere any local
  • 00:35:26
    skin head crew I would find anybody that
  • 00:35:28
    was worth a [ __ ] in the crews recruit
  • 00:35:30
    them and then run off all their buddies
  • 00:35:31
    and that was that was basically what we
  • 00:35:33
    did we were on a mass recruiting spree
  • 00:35:35
    so we could actually uh go against the
  • 00:35:37
    hammer skin Nation Brian worked to set
  • 00:35:40
    up skin head crews in several States it
  • 00:35:43
    was working out when it was like two
  • 00:35:45
    three states but we had five six states
  • 00:35:47
    under our belt so we decided you know
  • 00:35:49
    screw it we're just going to go under
  • 00:35:50
    one one Banner the new Banner became
  • 00:35:54
    known as the vinlander social club the
  • 00:35:57
    vinlander pulled in other organizations
  • 00:35:59
    like the hooers and the Ohio State skins
  • 00:36:01
    and U their efforts were to be a little
  • 00:36:04
    more radical than the hammer skin nation
  • 00:36:06
    in other words if you bring uh a knife
  • 00:36:08
    we're going to bring a gun if you assult
  • 00:36:10
    one of our members we're going to kill
  • 00:36:11
    one of your members the vinlanders and
  • 00:36:13
    the hammer skins considered themselves
  • 00:36:15
    at war with each other they were
  • 00:36:16
    skirmishes all the time as Brian Mass
  • 00:36:20
    recruited he sunk deeper into the depths
  • 00:36:22
    of
  • 00:36:23
    alcoholism I was drinking about a 30
  • 00:36:26
    pack a day and if that didn't cut it I'd
  • 00:36:28
    go with a 30 pack and a bottle of Jack
  • 00:36:29
    Daniels I was literally drinking myself
  • 00:36:32
    to death I was miserable I was
  • 00:36:34
    absolutely miserable so instead of
  • 00:36:37
    trying to change it at the time my out
  • 00:36:38
    was death and that's the skin head
  • 00:36:41
    philosophy you know it's they're the
  • 00:36:42
    retirement program it's either prison or
  • 00:36:43
    the grave and I didn't feel like going
  • 00:36:45
    to prison so that would have been the
  • 00:36:47
    other
  • 00:36:52
    alternative Brian you hear
  • 00:36:54
    me Brian you're all done buddy open your
  • 00:36:58
    mouth up
  • 00:37:00
    wide we're just going to take you to the
  • 00:37:02
    wake up
  • 00:37:03
    room you're all done
  • 00:37:06
    Bud hey
  • 00:37:09
    Brian try to stay on your back Brian you
  • 00:37:12
    hear me just relax stay right on your
  • 00:37:15
    back stay on your back there you go
  • 00:37:17
    there you go good job just putting some
  • 00:37:18
    medicine on your face
  • 00:37:21
    okay the young males they can kind of
  • 00:37:24
    wake up they're you know showing their
  • 00:37:26
    strength and stuff wantan to kind of
  • 00:37:27
    like conquer the world but that's common
  • 00:37:29
    that is common just go ahead and bring a
  • 00:37:31
    stretcher in we're just going to take
  • 00:37:34
    you to the wake up room I think he's
  • 00:37:35
    more concerned about my stress level you
  • 00:37:38
    know than anything else he just wants me
  • 00:37:40
    to see him so I know he's okay cuz I'm a
  • 00:37:44
    mom and I
  • 00:37:45
    worry thousand times more than I
  • 00:37:50
    should well right now his blood pressure
  • 00:37:52
    is 179 over 108 so we definitely want to
  • 00:37:55
    bring that down to his preop what he
  • 00:37:58
    was you just hurt so R so Sor think
  • 00:38:04
    about I
  • 00:38:07
    am R is it getting any better no it
  • 00:38:10
    hurts like hell so zero being no pain 10
  • 00:38:13
    the worst it's about a 10 I'm thinking
  • 00:38:15
    11 okay we think it's more pain and kind
  • 00:38:18
    of just the anesthesia coming out of him
  • 00:38:20
    so too he's shaking he's got the the
  • 00:38:23
    basic things that we look for when
  • 00:38:25
    people come out of anesthesia so we'll
  • 00:38:27
    bring it down she's calming them a good
  • 00:38:28
    bit so we can get that we'll be we'll be
  • 00:38:31
    good to
  • 00:38:33
    go okay Brian I'm giving you some more
  • 00:38:35
    medicine in your IV okay I was a little
  • 00:38:38
    intimidated by both of them my first
  • 00:38:41
    impression of Brian came from the other
  • 00:38:43
    nurses they told me he had a lot of
  • 00:38:45
    tattoos on his face they didn't really
  • 00:38:47
    know exactly what all they meant but
  • 00:38:49
    they weren't good I had never seen
  • 00:38:51
    anyone with that many tattoos on their
  • 00:38:53
    face so it was a little bit of a shock
  • 00:38:56
    back in your that
  • 00:38:58
    all right I'm going let you sign and
  • 00:38:59
    I'll give you this and we'll let you go
  • 00:39:02
    don't sign any legal documents today
  • 00:39:04
    either yeah okay had general anesthesia
  • 00:39:08
    she's in charge of you today she's in
  • 00:39:11
    charge every day okay all right we'll
  • 00:39:12
    just even more you love say that again I
  • 00:39:16
    love my wife y are precious she's a cute
  • 00:39:20
    one no here's a cute
  • 00:39:23
    one y'all are both cute how about that
  • 00:39:28
    my first impression you know seeing
  • 00:39:29
    Brian is he's tattooed from head to toe
  • 00:39:33
    um you know he looks a little hard you
  • 00:39:34
    know you're kind of like oh gosh is he
  • 00:39:36
    pretty rough you know but we've worked
  • 00:39:38
    with him so much now and you know you
  • 00:39:40
    get to know him and he's a little softy
  • 00:39:41
    he's not as Rough Around the Edges as
  • 00:39:43
    you think he is and he's a great
  • 00:39:45
    [Music]
  • 00:39:54
    guy well I think he's making steady
  • 00:39:57
    progress it hasn't been quite as rapid
  • 00:39:59
    as I had hoped it was going to be when
  • 00:40:01
    we started this process several months
  • 00:40:03
    ago all right may burn a little bit in
  • 00:40:05
    your IV I know you know that we talked
  • 00:40:08
    about maybe we can get this done in
  • 00:40:09
    seven or eight treatments but it's going
  • 00:40:11
    to take more than that obviously so this
  • 00:40:13
    whole process May wind up taking a year
  • 00:40:15
    and a half before we're
  • 00:40:17
    finished following several treatments
  • 00:40:20
    the medical team Alters their approach
  • 00:40:23
    so now what we're doing we've done the
  • 00:40:25
    last couple of times it's worked very
  • 00:40:26
    well we put him to sleep
  • 00:40:27
    once he's asleep then we give him the
  • 00:40:29
    local anesthesia is everybody gogg up
  • 00:40:31
    goggling up then we do the treatment so
  • 00:40:34
    when he wakes up his face is still numb
  • 00:40:35
    so the numbing medicine wears off slowly
  • 00:40:37
    over a few hours and so the pain kind of
  • 00:40:39
    builds slowly he can tolerate it much
  • 00:40:41
    better this also allows Dr sha to treat
  • 00:40:44
    Brian's entire face and neck every visit
  • 00:40:48
    still much of the ink
  • 00:40:54
    lingers we just want to secure the
  • 00:40:56
    existence of a r
  • 00:40:57
    and a future for white
  • 00:40:59
    children as a skin head you try to live
  • 00:41:02
    by the 14
  • 00:41:04
    [Music]
  • 00:41:06
    words it's our children and our
  • 00:41:08
    children's children these are our future
  • 00:41:10
    this is what we're in this for as I was
  • 00:41:12
    progressing in these Crews I noticed
  • 00:41:14
    that it nothing was about the kids these
  • 00:41:17
    guys were abusive to their wives they
  • 00:41:19
    half of them couldn't hold jobs they
  • 00:41:20
    were felons um they would have bastards
  • 00:41:23
    all over the country not pay a diamond
  • 00:41:25
    of child support and they just they like
  • 00:41:28
    to preach all this higher nobility but
  • 00:41:31
    nobody wanted to practice
  • 00:41:33
    anything we at the Nordic Fest where
  • 00:41:36
    they met Julie says she witnessed
  • 00:41:38
    skinheads and clan members having sex
  • 00:41:40
    with underage
  • 00:41:42
    girls actually there was two tents with
  • 00:41:45
    girls in there and the guys kept going
  • 00:41:49
    in and taking turns having sex with them
  • 00:41:51
    they're running trains on the girls and
  • 00:41:53
    so in my mind what I thought these men
  • 00:41:56
    do not give a crap about age they don't
  • 00:41:59
    care of you know there's no you know
  • 00:42:02
    she's you know an Aran woman you know
  • 00:42:04
    she's we must honor her and you know
  • 00:42:07
    treasure The woman there there's none of
  • 00:42:09
    that it's ridiculous they don't care
  • 00:42:12
    when she told me about it the thing is I
  • 00:42:13
    wasn't surprised at all and at that
  • 00:42:15
    point i' had already been skined for
  • 00:42:17
    about 15 16 years nothing was shocking
  • 00:42:20
    anymore I myself had a girl that was 14
  • 00:42:23
    then that moment that made me think that
  • 00:42:27
    that could be my child is probably the
  • 00:42:30
    moment of the turning point where I
  • 00:42:32
    started questioning everything that I've
  • 00:42:34
    been led to believe all those
  • 00:42:37
    years there was plenty of times where
  • 00:42:40
    you know I'd see some of my brothers
  • 00:42:41
    kick the crap out of their old ladies I
  • 00:42:43
    never looked at beating women as
  • 00:42:44
    children as a glorious battle I tried to
  • 00:42:47
    live as a by the code of a warrior and a
  • 00:42:50
    code of a warrior calls for a glorious
  • 00:42:52
    battle I had a really good friend and
  • 00:42:55
    she was 9 months pregnant and her
  • 00:42:57
    boyfriend of 10 years punched her in the
  • 00:43:00
    eye and this is the white power movement
  • 00:43:02
    and this happens all the time after a
  • 00:43:05
    while [ __ ] like that really eats at you
  • 00:43:07
    and then you just realize that all these
  • 00:43:09
    things that you've been telling yourself
  • 00:43:11
    for years upon years and other people
  • 00:43:13
    telling you it's all just [ __ ] we
  • 00:43:15
    were both at the point where we were
  • 00:43:16
    just like you know whatever this whole
  • 00:43:18
    thing is just ridiculous but I mean we
  • 00:43:20
    weren't really out yet we were both in
  • 00:43:23
    there just kind of hanging on by a
  • 00:43:25
    string as ran and Julie struggled to
  • 00:43:28
    escape the skin head movement they
  • 00:43:30
    sought the Council of a rival of
  • 00:43:33
    sorts you don't have the
  • 00:43:36
    right will you do it at the expense of
  • 00:43:38
    my people are my people allow darl lont
  • 00:43:41
    Jenkins is a anti-racist who runs the
  • 00:43:44
    website one people's
  • 00:43:47
    project Julie was I'm guessing at her WS
  • 00:43:51
    end she wanted to talk to somebody it's
  • 00:43:54
    obvious that they're going through
  • 00:43:55
    something they're asking for my help so
  • 00:43:57
    okay you got it you got it I mean I
  • 00:43:59
    think of you as a human first I don't
  • 00:44:01
    think of you as an
  • 00:44:03
    adversary Brian's first conversation
  • 00:44:05
    with Daryl lasted more than 3
  • 00:44:08
    hours he was educated he knew what the
  • 00:44:11
    hell he was talking about we liked a lot
  • 00:44:12
    of the same [ __ ] you he's a Son of a
  • 00:44:14
    Preacher and he was in the punk rock
  • 00:44:15
    movement out in New York and our
  • 00:44:17
    conversation was about the music scene
  • 00:44:19
    we was able to um get together on kind
  • 00:44:22
    of like this common bond that we had
  • 00:44:24
    with each other to begin with and
  • 00:44:27
    you know it just became something else
  • 00:44:29
    as we went
  • 00:44:30
    along and the more I talked to him the
  • 00:44:32
    more I actually realized that I had more
  • 00:44:34
    in common with him than with some of the
  • 00:44:35
    guys that I buddied up with for close to
  • 00:44:37
    20 years you know he was just such a
  • 00:44:39
    great and caring guy but that really
  • 00:44:43
    changed me in a lot of
  • 00:44:44
    [Music]
  • 00:44:50
    ways
  • 00:44:52
    hey good
  • 00:44:55
    morning now what about your hand what
  • 00:44:57
    about him do you want him to get this
  • 00:44:59
    yeah
  • 00:45:00
    absolutely absolutely we'll do that
  • 00:45:02
    today okay I gave up on asking him to
  • 00:45:05
    get his hands done because I figure he's
  • 00:45:08
    going through enough with his face so I
  • 00:45:09
    said okay fine I'll just shut up about
  • 00:45:11
    it
  • 00:45:12
    and that tactic paid
  • 00:45:15
    off cuz now he says he wants to get his
  • 00:45:18
    hands
  • 00:45:20
    done this is the first tattoo I got I
  • 00:45:22
    got no use for it anymore everybody
  • 00:45:25
    goggled up just goggling up
  • 00:45:31
    look at that response that we get with
  • 00:45:34
    this
  • 00:45:36
    amazing if I'm going this far to get all
  • 00:45:38
    this taken off you know getting the
  • 00:45:39
    hands would be the next logical step
  • 00:45:41
    that way I could actually wear a long
  • 00:45:42
    sleeve and blend in the best of my
  • 00:45:45
    ability even though I mean it's
  • 00:45:46
    something he got as a teenager Rebellion
  • 00:45:49
    it's something here as an adult and as a
  • 00:45:51
    father we go up to the school puts his
  • 00:45:53
    hand on the counter goes to shake
  • 00:45:55
    someone's hand that's all they see is
  • 00:45:56
    hate so
  • 00:45:57
    for him to make that decision finally
  • 00:45:59
    has been awesome I'm pretty excited are
  • 00:46:03
    you
  • 00:46:04
    cold it hurts
  • 00:46:07
    hurts HT hands are bothering more than
  • 00:46:10
    is your hands
  • 00:46:12
    yeah
  • 00:46:20
    pressure where's Julie I'm going to go
  • 00:46:23
    get her it's
  • 00:46:27
    all
  • 00:46:28
    right okay Brian scale of 1 to
  • 00:46:32
    10 is it
  • 00:46:34
    excruciating more so than
  • 00:46:37
    [Applause]
  • 00:46:43
    usual Julie and I connected at the
  • 00:46:46
    beginning because she supports Brian
  • 00:46:50
    100% and I respect that from her and it
  • 00:46:54
    makes me feel good to be around family
  • 00:46:57
    members that support their spouse and
  • 00:46:59
    support their families
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    100% I'm going to get one more pressure
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    and then you can get dressed okay you're
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    juicy today Brian
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    [Music]
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    yeah the post treatment of the hands
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    they swell up really bad like boxing
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    gloves swelling throbs and kills um the
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    worst part about it is you don't realize
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    how much you use your hands for
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    everything in the world until you can't
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    use them the pain sucks but it's the
  • 00:47:32
    frustration that really gets
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    [Music]
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    me after they married Brian and Julie's
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    disenchantment with the white power
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    movement grew I was apathetic and I just
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    didn't give a damn anymore I didn't give
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    a [ __ ] about white people black people
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    Jewish people I didn't give a [ __ ] about
  • 00:47:52
    anybody and it kind of dawned on me that
  • 00:47:55
    it wasn't that I hated everybody else I
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    just hat ated
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    myself then Julie became
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    pregnant it would be Brian's first
  • 00:48:04
    biological child and when we found out
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    we were pregnant with him I realized it
  • 00:48:08
    wasn't about just me anymore I had this
  • 00:48:10
    baby coming and the party had to stop
  • 00:48:13
    being a deri had to stop but he really
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    opened my eyes to what it means to be a
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    man basically and try to step up to the
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    plate Brian slowly withdrew from skin
  • 00:48:24
    head activities spending more time with
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    family and less time with the
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    vinlanders I was trying to actually
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    provide food for my family and the crew
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    took a second place it didn't it didn't
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    have the uh priority that it once had
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    and everybody started getting kind of
  • 00:48:41
    pissy about it and eventually uh Brian
  • 00:48:45
    James the president of the club called
  • 00:48:46
    me up and said I had to make a choice
  • 00:48:48
    between either my family or
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    them and so I I chose my
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    family threats and harassment quickly
  • 00:48:59
    followed there were calls at 3:00 in the
  • 00:49:02
    morning saying we're coming to get you
  • 00:49:03
    random phone calls you're going to die
  • 00:49:05
    your family's going to die some of the
  • 00:49:08
    threats we did take seriously because
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    the guys that he was involved in are
  • 00:49:13
    known to
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    um act violent towards others even
  • 00:49:19
    people in the movement I had to live on
  • 00:49:22
    Red Alert I wasn't sleeping at night cuz
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    I was just wondering when seven eight
  • 00:49:26
    guys were going to kicking my door and
  • 00:49:27
    just start shooting everybody I didn't
  • 00:49:29
    want to let my kids play outside I
  • 00:49:31
    couldn't in good conscience let them
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    play in a yard where somebody could just
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    drive into the yard and run him over
  • 00:49:37
    and to put those kids through that was
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    just it was miserable on that aspect
  • 00:49:41
    plus it was miserable that you know if
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    seven or eight of these guys decided to
  • 00:49:45
    show up that there was very little I
  • 00:49:47
    could do about it besides just get
  • 00:49:48
    myself killed and then let them have
  • 00:49:50
    their way yeah it
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    was it was hell and it was
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    hard after Brian and Julie left the
  • 00:50:03
    white power movement the couple were
  • 00:50:05
    being threatened by Brian's former
  • 00:50:09
    mates they take everything that you
  • 00:50:11
    entrusted with them and they throw it
  • 00:50:12
    right at you and that's what they did to
  • 00:50:14
    me and I was pregnant with Taron I was
  • 00:50:17
    so sick I was you know cramping up we
  • 00:50:20
    thought we thought we were going to lose
  • 00:50:21
    him that was the summer you had the
  • 00:50:23
    nervous breakdown yeah
  • 00:50:27
    Julie and I got into an argument one day
  • 00:50:29
    over uh some shirt on the clothes line
  • 00:50:33
    outside and she was hormonal and I was
  • 00:50:35
    dealing with her being pregnant plus
  • 00:50:37
    dealing with the club [ __ ] I snapped
  • 00:50:39
    and I threw her and Isabelle out of the
  • 00:50:41
    room and um I ate a bottle of
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    pills I found the empty pill bottle and
  • 00:50:50
    got him to tell me that he took him and
  • 00:50:53
    then got him to get out of the bedroom
  • 00:50:56
    and get him him downstairs and raced him
  • 00:50:58
    to the emergency
  • 00:51:01
    room it was pretty horrible it was one
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    of those I'm
  • 00:51:06
    pregnant don't leave me don't leave me
  • 00:51:09
    with all this stuff going on you know I
  • 00:51:12
    love you you know we finally found each
  • 00:51:14
    other we have so much in common you know
  • 00:51:17
    I finally found someone that you know
  • 00:51:19
    relates to me and I can be myself too
  • 00:51:22
    and that knows me heart and soul and it
  • 00:51:24
    just I didn't want to lose them
  • 00:51:29
    I was a roller coaster at that point it
  • 00:51:31
    was up and down I was just a wreck I got
  • 00:51:33
    into mental care and started seeing a
  • 00:51:34
    shrink to get my get my head back
  • 00:51:36
    together I made the decision to quit
  • 00:51:37
    drinking then it was incredibly hard cuz
  • 00:51:39
    I I did it cold turkey I
  • 00:51:41
    just just quit drinking and it was it
  • 00:51:44
    was rough so he made the decision never
  • 00:51:47
    once did I give him an ultimatum not
  • 00:51:50
    once to quit drink and he did all that
  • 00:51:52
    on his own
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    [Applause]
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    [Music]
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    how you
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    doing all right last treatment today yep
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    I can't believe
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    [Music]
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    they a long long time
  • 00:52:26
    it's unbelievable I mean it's been a
  • 00:52:28
    long time but I can't believe it's at
  • 00:52:30
    the end I think about him and how he
  • 00:52:32
    feels because I know why he got the
  • 00:52:35
    tattoos on his face to begin with and I
  • 00:52:37
    wonder cuz when he's quiet sometimes how
  • 00:52:40
    he's feeling how he's thinking with the
  • 00:52:42
    tattoos off because he thought he was
  • 00:52:44
    unattractive I think he's extremely
  • 00:52:45
    attractive with or without him we've had
  • 00:52:48
    some pretty pretty great cases here at
  • 00:52:50
    the Southern Poverty Law Center this one
  • 00:52:52
    for me has been been different I mean
  • 00:52:54
    it's it's an opportunity to see what
  • 00:52:55
    life's all about I mean life is about
  • 00:52:57
    Redemption and we're trying to you know
  • 00:52:59
    to find our way in life and and this is
  • 00:53:01
    an illustration on
  • 00:53:04
    steroids I'd like to personally thank
  • 00:53:06
    the Southern Poverty Law Center we
  • 00:53:09
    wouldn't be making this change in our
  • 00:53:10
    life because we would never have been
  • 00:53:12
    able to afford it we owe them so much
  • 00:53:17
    and just this has been incredible this
  • 00:53:20
    been
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    cry this is just it's it's been a great
  • 00:53:25
    trip and
  • 00:53:31
    have may somebody cared enough for
  • 00:53:35
    another human being you know and another
  • 00:53:39
    family to do this to allow this to
  • 00:53:43
    happen I'm so incredibly
  • 00:53:47
    grateful there have been a couple times
  • 00:53:49
    when I wanted to throw in the towel
  • 00:53:51
    where I just I didn't want to do it
  • 00:53:53
    anymore it's been hard it really has hey
  • 00:53:56
    guys are you ready for us yet we're
  • 00:53:57
    ready come here thank you for
  • 00:54:01
    everything we're taking care of them I
  • 00:54:03
    just want to say thank
  • 00:54:07
    you I don't really get
  • 00:54:11
    a we're not doing this we'll see you
  • 00:54:15
    again we'll see you again this is not a
  • 00:54:19
    good shut
  • 00:54:20
    up you guys are doing I know you guys
  • 00:54:24
    become like family so
  • 00:54:26
    it's awesome you ready man than you are
  • 00:54:29
    all right let's
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    roll this is number 25 and when we
  • 00:54:35
    started this process months ago I never
  • 00:54:37
    imagined it would take this
  • 00:54:40
    long what he's done with his life has
  • 00:54:42
    been remarkable we're just proud Tove
  • 00:54:44
    been able to play some small role in
  • 00:54:46
    this Rehabilitation process for him and
  • 00:54:49
    U hopefully this will be uh something
  • 00:54:51
    that he will carry with him and continue
  • 00:54:53
    to do well throughout the rest of his
  • 00:54:54
    life anybody who puts himself to this
  • 00:54:56
    much torture is bound to want to do
  • 00:54:59
    something good with it once it's all
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    over with
  • 00:55:06
    absolutely okay that was it Brian we're
  • 00:55:09
    all done buddy that got it we'll we'll
  • 00:55:12
    tell him again when he wakes up but
  • 00:55:15
    we're done congratulations so absolutely
  • 00:55:18
    long road so uh let's get him wrapped up
  • 00:55:21
    and bed up
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    and it's been an interesting Road you
  • 00:55:26
    know we've gotten to know them so well
  • 00:55:27
    they've sort of become a part of our
  • 00:55:29
    routine around here you have been
  • 00:55:31
    awesome yeah well we've been through a
  • 00:55:32
    lot together all three of us I truly
  • 00:55:34
    showed us the meaning of family because
  • 00:55:36
    you know we what we thought we were into
  • 00:55:39
    there's no comparison on on true
  • 00:55:41
    feelings you know well it's it's been
  • 00:55:43
    our pleasure it's been a joy getting to
  • 00:55:45
    know you guys and we're going to miss
  • 00:55:46
    seeing you so much I know all right do
  • 00:55:49
    you want to get up get dressed sure I
  • 00:55:52
    help you
  • 00:55:54
    sure he's the one that brought the light
  • 00:55:56
    we just did the work you know he wanted
  • 00:55:58
    to make these changes and so it was very
  • 00:56:00
    important for us to be able to try to
  • 00:56:01
    help him if we could and even though it
  • 00:56:03
    took a lot longer than any of us ever
  • 00:56:05
    expected that it would I think we've
  • 00:56:06
    wound up with that's going to be a very
  • 00:56:08
    nice outcome for him Dr Sha's office
  • 00:56:11
    always treated me with dignity and with
  • 00:56:13
    respect to them the tattoos weren't
  • 00:56:16
    there I was a normal person in their
  • 00:56:18
    eyes and that's rare for me I never felt
  • 00:56:22
    at a place there at all they have always
  • 00:56:24
    been so helpful so sweet I mean I love
  • 00:56:27
    those guys I really do I'm getting oh
  • 00:56:33
    no by
  • 00:56:38
    aome bye bye kiss the baby for me I will
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    you
  • 00:56:44
    too way sleep Take Care by guys
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    I have my face back it's great I'm just
  • 00:57:00
    I'm so excited now I'm so blessed that
  • 00:57:03
    the opportunity came to where I could
  • 00:57:04
    get it done you know God's obviously
  • 00:57:06
    smiling upon me for some
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    [Music]
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    reason e
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Tags
  • Redemption
  • Tattoo Removal
  • Neo-Nazi
  • Racism
  • Transformation
  • Family Support
  • Struggle
  • Violence
  • Southern Poverty Law Center
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