iOS vs Android Privacy Showdown: Beyond the Surface

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Summary

TLDRThis presentation explores the pros and cons of Android versus iOS from a usability perspective. Android is praised for its flexibility, including the ability to use third-party app stores, run privacy-focused apps not available on iOS, and its capability to install different operating systems. It also allows for advanced features like work profiles and user accounts for compartmentalization. In contrast, iOS is commended for its robust security features, like lockdown mode and Advanced Data Protection, offering easy end-to-end encryption for iCloud services. Despite some restrictions, iOS provides a seamless experience for securing and backing up data. Additionally, updates are a strong point for iOS, historically providing longer support for older devices. The integration of Webkit as a browser engine in iOS ensures consistent safety standards across applications. Ultimately, the decision between Android and iOS should factor in the tools and apps one uses regularly, and which system facilitates their needs better.

Takeaways

  • 📱 Android supports third-party app stores, enhancing app availability without a Google account.
  • 🔒 iOS offers Advanced Data Protection for seamless data encryption.
  • 🛠️ Android allows operating system customization through flashing different OS.
  • 👥 Work profiles and user accounts on Android enable better compartmentalization.
  • 📈 Historically, iOS has provided longer updates for older devices.
  • 🔍 Webkit on iOS offers a consistent safety standard.
  • 🌐 Multiple browser engines available on Android provide more browsing flexibility.
  • 🔗 iOS's lockdown mode provides advanced security features.
  • 📦 Encrypted backups on iOS are more integrated and easy to manage.
  • 🛡️ Privacy-focused apps are more accessible on Android via platforms like F-Droid.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The video begins with a discussion on the pros and cons of Android and iOS devices, focusing on usability differences to help viewers decide which might be best for them. Key points for Android include the ability to access third-party app stores without a Google account, offering more apps with privacy and security focus, and supporting tools like rethink DNS and Brier which require functioanlity that iOS doesn't provide. Android allows flashing different operating systems for versatility, multiple browser engines for advanced users, and offers work profiles and user accounts for compartmentalizing tasks, which is not possible on iOS. He emphasizes these features provide greater flexibility and control for privacy-conscious users.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:07

    The speaker highlights iOS benefits such as lockdown mode and Advanced Data Protection (ADP) offering seamless end-to-end encryption across Apple tools like iCloud, which Android cannot match natively due to its open nature. Unlike Android, iOS boasts easier encrypted backups and generally provides longer device support. Despite Webkit limitations, it raises the baseline safety of iOS web interactions. The decision between Android and iOS should factor in personal safety tools, device integration, and even family considerations. Community interaction via forums plays a significant role in these discussions, coupled with a thanks to patrons supporting the content and a closing call for viewer feedback on their OS preferences and must-have features.

Mind Map

Video Q&A

  • What are the advantages of Android over iOS?

    Android allows you to use third-party app stores, has more privacy-focused apps, and offers customization features like flashing different operating systems.

  • What are the advantages of iOS over Android?

    iOS offers features like lockdown mode and Advanced Data Protection which provide seamless end-to-end encryption for most iCloud services.

  • Can Android run different operating systems?

    Yes, Android allows users to flash different operating systems, providing more flexibility and customization.

  • What is a unique feature Android offers that iOS doesn't?

    Android offers work profiles and user accounts that allow for better compartmentalization of different aspects such as work and hobbies.

  • How does webkit benefit iOS users?

    Webkit standardizes safety standards, providing a more consistent security baseline across apps on iOS.

  • Does iOS support third-party app stores like Android?

    No, iOS does not allow the installation of apps from third-party app stores like Android does.

  • What is a key selling point for iOS security?

    iOS offers Advanced Data Protection, which enables seamless end-to-end encryption for data stored in iCloud.

  • How does Android's support for app privacy compare to iOS?

    Android has a variety of privacy-focused apps available through platforms like F-Droid, which are generally not available on iOS due to its restrictions.

  • Can iOS users customize their operating system like Android users?

    No, iOS does not offer the same level of customization as Android, such as flashing different operating systems.

  • What is the main consideration when choosing between Android and iOS?

    Consider the tools you use daily and which operating system supports them better for your workflow and personal use.

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    I've got my notes Here I wanted to go
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    through the pros of Android the pros of
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    IOS as well as a couple of the cons of
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    each of them and kind of give you my
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    take on the usability differences
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    between the two of them to help you
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    decide which one's the best for you cuz
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    I would argue that what you can do on
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    each device is a lot more important and
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    I definitely want to start with third
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    party app stores it's one of the best
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    things about Android the fact that you
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    can just go online without a Google
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    account download an app install it on
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    your phone you can get a third party app
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    store no need for the Google Play Store
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    even on a phone that uses Google Play
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    services you can just not sign into your
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    Google account and still get access to
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    everything you need unlike iOS where you
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    can't really do anything on an iPhone
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    without an Apple account on that note
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    Android just has more apps uh that have
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    kind of a privacy and security Focus so
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    for example you can get Molly on an
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    Android device which is a fork of signal
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    with some different features uh which
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    allows you to actually use signal in
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    multiple phones I covered that more in
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    my signal hardening guide but there's
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    nothing like this on iOS there's also no
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    proper tour browser on iOS but there is
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    one on Android and there are lots of
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    other apps that are Android exclusive uh
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    that are dedicated to your safety and a
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    lot of those can be found on fdroid so
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    if you're kind of curious for a larger
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    list fdroid is uh the App Store I'd
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    recommend you check out it's open source
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    you can see a lot of the tools in there
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    that many of them are just not available
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    on iOS one reason that they're not on
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    iOS is a lot of these tools actually
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    require functionality that iOS doesn't
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    provide developers so for example
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    rethink DNS one of the people who
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    actually inspired this video because
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    they left a comment that got me thinking
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    about this um on our Forum um but they
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    build an awesome tool that can't really
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    easily exist as well on iOS um you also
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    have things like Brier that require a
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    constant background connection to be
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    able to communicate with someone
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    peer-to-peer but the peers have to be
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    online in order to actually uh
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    communicate and you can't really do that
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    on iOS which doesn't really allow apps
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    to 24/7 uh connect in the background
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    there's also the ability speaking of to
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    flash any operating system this is huge
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    for people who want to be able to say
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    they can run an open source uh operating
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    system on their device it also gives you
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    more flexibility and customization
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    because different operating systems have
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    different sets of features and they have
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    different things that they're
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    prioritizing for different consumers
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    some of them are dedicated to Bringing
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    longevity to older devices some of them
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    are focused on security some are focused
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    on more of a middle ground approach to
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    everything um so there's really just a
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    lot of variability between operating
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    systems but the point is you get to
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    choose what you want and I think that's
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    a really cool thing that's just not
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    possible on iOS multiple browser engines
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    on android enable you to use straight up
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    different browser engines you might
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    think what the hell yeah on iOS you
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    can't really do that it's the only
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    mainstream operating system on both
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    mobile and desktop that restricts you to
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    just one browser engine it enables
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    people who know what they're doing to
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    take things quite a bit further and this
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    is why I think we see like very powerful
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    browsers on Android and finally this is
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    my favorite feature on Android and it's
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    really underrated and people don't
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    really talk about it much and if they
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    brought this to iOS I think that would
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    actually be gamechanging for iOS users
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    it's work profiles and user accounts
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    work profiles and user accounts enable
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    you to pretty much infinitely
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    compartmentalize different things on
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    your phone can have work on the same
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    phone you could have a hobby on a
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    different phone in a different work
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    profile different user account for those
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    of you wondering more of the Practical
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    differences on a more granular level you
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    can do things like have two signal
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    accounts on the same phone on different
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    apps but it's a still signal it's just
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    you have signal in a work profile and
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    signal in a regular profile or signal in
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    an entirely different user account you
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    can set up different VPN connections
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    also for different work profiles or
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    different user accounts uh depending on
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    your OS and how everything's handled
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    there iOS you kind of just have to suck
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    it up and keep everything on the same
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    phone with the same Apple account with
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    the same app and you can't really
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    customize things quite as much those are
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    kind of the core things about Android
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    that I think enable some of the coolest
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    things for the privacy security people
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    um that are going to allow you to kind
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    of maximize your journey within the
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    Android ecosystem with that said iOS has
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    some really cool benefits as well that
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    some people should really take into
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    consideration I've made a whole video
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    about lockdown mode what it does what it
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    doesn't do and kind of the differences
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    there it's going to be a little bit
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    harder to match the security of lockdown
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    mode on an Android device unless you're
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    starting to look into more advanced
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    things so I think that's a big selling
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    point for iOS people who just want a
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    convenient efficient way to just boost
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    the security of their phone
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    substantially that is a pretty good way
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    to do it even more important I think
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    really the core selling point right now
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    for iOS in general is Advanced Data
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    protection here's why on Android there's
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    no Central efficient seamless way to
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    actually have end to end encryption for
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    most things on your phone um on Android
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    the way this would look like if I were
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    to go about it it would be okay maybe
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    download like the proton suite and try
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    to use that for as much as I can even
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    though it doesn't really integrate super
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    well with the operating system we can
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    kind of work around that a little bit um
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    obviously using an n0 encrypted
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    messenger and yeah that's kind of it on
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    the other hand iOS with ADP means you
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    get access to pretty much all of Apple's
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    tools within iCloud but with end to end
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    encryption meaning you're going to get
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    apple Health Apple photos um obviously
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    iMessage you're going to have all your
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    device backups to the cloud also be end
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    and encrypted pretty much everything in
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    iCloud will be ENT and encrypted even
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    your documents now the only exceptions
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    to this are mail calendar and contacts
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    all three of which are Legacy
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    technologies that are hard to do end to
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    end encryption for and you might be uh
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    getting Deja Vu now cuz you're like
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    where has he said that before it's like
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    oh yeah proton reviews so yeah proton's
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    a perfect fill in on iOS for all of you
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    iOS users um and also Tuda as well um
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    for some of those things so you have a
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    pretty easy swap inss for the few things
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    that iCloud doesn't do with Advanced
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    Data protection
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    I really wish something like this
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    existed on Android but I think the
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    openness of Android um also makes it
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    just much harder to do something quite
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    as seamless so that is one huge selling
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    point for iOS easy end to- endend
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    encryption for a lot of The Suite on the
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    topic of backups uh encrypted backups on
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    iOS are just so much easier just plug in
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    your phone uh open your computer click
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    encrypt backup and then do a backup if
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    you throw your phone in a lake get a new
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    one plug it in as long as you have the
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    password uh not only is it a much
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    smoother seamless uh restore and backup
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    method uh than it is for a lot of
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    android devices but it's encrypted and
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    again if you wanted to use ADP you can
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    even get that kind of seamlessness uh
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    with the cloud as well without even
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    needing to plug in the phone um this one
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    is a little bit iffy and an asterisk
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    because it might actually be a pro for
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    Android now but historically again
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    historically Apple's been a lot better
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    about supporting their phones longer and
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    pushing security updates to older
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    devices wasn't that long ago that Apple
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    just pushed a small security update to
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    the iPhone 5S which is just kind of wild
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    um here's the thing though Google and
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    other Android manufacturers are actually
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    committing to pretty darn long security
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    update lengths now so this might
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    actually be a pro for Android going
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    forward but we just haven't seen it pan
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    out yet so I'm a little bit cautious to
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    give that win to Android quite yet but I
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    think it's very likely that Google will
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    stick to this promise and if they do
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    then this is either you know they're
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    going to match each other and IOS and
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    Android both are going to have similar
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    uh update times or Android might even
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    beat it out slightly next up webkit um
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    the benefit of webkit which is the
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    browser engine that's forced on iOS
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    users again it has a baseline of uh kind
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    of safety and you can see this on sites
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    like privacy tests.org if you compare
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    the Android section to the iOS section
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    you'll see there's just a lot more
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    variability in the Android side of
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    things than the iOS side of things and
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    that's because webkit does in some ways
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    actually kind of bring the Baseline up
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    and that's something that Arthur
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    Edelstein Who develops uh privacy
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    test.org even mentioned men in the
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    interview that I did with him so the
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    real question I want people to ask
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    themselves uh to help decide this iOS
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    versus Android thing for their own
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    personal Journey what tools am I using
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    on my phone to improve my
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    safety really like I want you to think
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    about it am I using this messenger does
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    this messenger work better on iOS on
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    Android um am I not moving to a
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    different messenger because of the
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    operating system I'm using what about my
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    VPN what about browser I'm choosing to
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    use how about how my phone integrates
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    with my other devices in my workflow
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    that's something people don't talk about
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    honestly I hate to say it but it also
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    depends on the kind of the stuff your
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    family uses a lot of people are in
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    family plans for things so I think iOS
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    versus
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    Android I don't think it's wrong to just
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    look at the benefits and pros and cons
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    of the technical differences between the
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    two of them but I think it kind of uh
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    negates how important the tools are you
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    use daytoday and on which operating
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    system those tools work better for you
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    on I'd be really curious to hear some of
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    your thoughts um I know that uh it's a
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    pretty polarizing discussion because
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    there's only two options um but I'd love
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    uh for all of you listening to leave
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    your thoughts Below on some of the
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    features that you feel like you can't
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    give up on Android or on iOS so leave
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    those below what can't you give up on
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    your operating system that keeps you on
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    your operating system with that said um
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