Roy Baumeister - Willpower: Self-Control, Decision Fatigue, and Energy Depletion

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Summary

TLDRThe video features a detailed discussion on the significance of self-control as a paramount human strength. The speaker contrasts self-control with self-esteem, illustrating that while high self-esteem was once thought to lead to better outcomes, empirical evidence shows self-control is a more reliable predictor of success across various aspects of life. Self-control is described as a "muscle" that can be strengthened through regular use and practice, suggesting that self-control can lead to better school and work performance, healthier relationships, and even longer life spans. Additionally, self-control serves as a "moral muscle," helping individuals conform to societal norms and resist temptations. The talk also explores the concept of ego depletion, where self-control resources are drained, affecting decision-making and willpower. Diet, glucose levels, and mental fatigue are discussed in relation to self-control's effectiveness. Overall, self-control shapes human behavior significantly, impacting personal and collective achievements.

Takeaways

  • 💪 Self-control is considered the greatest human strength according to the speaker.
  • 📚 High self-control is linked to better life outcomes than self-esteem.
  • 🔄 Self-control can be improved similar to how muscles are trained.
  • ⚖ Self-control aids in regulating oneself to meet societal standards and values.
  • 🔋 Ego depletion occurs when self-control resources are exhausted, diminishing effectiveness.
  • 🍬 Glucose levels play a critical role in maintaining willpower and self-control.
  • 🧠 Decision-making also consumes willpower, not just self-control tasks.
  • 🔍 Self-control has physiological ties to brain activity and glucose metabolism.
  • 🔄 Self-control balances moral behavior and resisting temptations.
  • 🔧 Establishing disciplined habits is crucial for leveraging self-control effectively.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker expresses gratitude for the invitation and begins discussing the importance of self-control and willpower, deemed as possibly the greatest human strength. He contrasts this with the earlier focus on self-esteem, which didn't yield the expected benefits. Self-control's predictive value is emphasized as children with better self-control achieve more success in various life areas.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    He explains that self-control helps in moral decision-making and is sometimes referred to as the moral muscle. Self-control is likened to self-regulation, which is described as changing behavior to align with cultural norms and ideas. The speaker highlights the role of self-control in overcoming everyday challenges and achieving personal growth.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    A study involving beepers to measure desires in a German town is described. Participants noted their desires and whether they resisted them. The study found resisting desires effectively decreased the likelihood of acting on them. It suggested that self-control is actively used daily and effectively restrains a large percentage of human desires.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The concept of willpower as energy that's depleted over time is introduced. A famous experiment demonstrated that resisting a tempting treat drained willpower, reducing perseverance in subsequent tasks. This 'ego depletion' shows self-control gets exhausted, affecting future tasks.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Discussion of how self-control works like a muscle follows. It's noted that self-control can be built up over time with regular use, much like strengthening muscles. There's an emphasis on conserving energy during tasks to extend self-control over longer periods. Notably, self-regulatory actions can improve through exercises.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Self-control is linked to intelligence and successful life outcomes. It's emphasized that self-control can be improved, unlike intelligence, which has proven harder to change. Despite self-control being a limited resource, it's pivotal for managing various tasks and functions. The idea of a singular willpower resource shared across tasks is also discussed.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Willpower's utility extends beyond self-control to decision-making and initiating actions. The concept is expanded to include that making decisions, and exerting self-control both draw from the same limited willpower resource. Also, there's a note on how consistent decision-making can deplete this resource, impacting future choices.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    The speaker mentions research on glucose's role in self-control, describing how glucose levels correlate with the ability to exert self-control. Laboratory studies indicate replenishing glucose helps restore self-control, though the speaker cautions on relying solely on sugar due to various health impacts.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Further illustration of glucose's impact on decision-making reflects how low glucose affects judgment in critical situations, like judicial decisions. A study in Israel is cited where judges' leniency fluctuated based on their glucose levels, indicating a real-world impact of biochemical states on decision-making.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    The concept of depletion, and what it feels like, is explored. Depletion is explained as an intensified level of emotional response, where both positive and negative stimuli have heightened effects. This can be problematic for people trying to resist temptations, as their ability to resist decreases while the perceived intensity of desires increases.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:59:22

    The talk concludes with the assertion that self-control is a powerful tool, crucial for cultural and personal success. It's seen as more beneficial than self-esteem, providing a significant advantage in achieving long-term goals. Despite common beliefs of insufficient self-control, humans have considerable capacity, critical for societal advancement.

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Video Q&A

  • What is considered the greatest human strength according to the speaker?

    The speaker argues that self-control is the greatest human strength.

  • How does self-control compare to self-esteem?

    Self-control is shown to predict positive outcomes, whereas self-esteem does not cause better outcomes, despite initial correlations.

  • What outcomes does high self-control predict?

    High self-control predicts better life outcomes, including success in work and relationships.

  • Can self-control be improved, and how?

    Yes, self-control can be improved akin to a muscle, through regular exercise and practice.

  • How is self-control related to decision-making?

    Self-control involves regulating oneself to conform to standards, which affects decision-making processes.

  • What is ego depletion?

    Ego depletion is a state where self-control resources are used up, leading to reduced ability to exert self-control.

  • How does glucose relate to self-control?

    Glucose is crucial for willpower and self-control, and depletion of glucose can impair self-control.

  • Can activities other than self-control affect willpower?

    Yes, decision-making and other mental activities can also deplete willpower.

  • Is self-control linked to any physiological processes?

    Yes, self-control is linked to brain activity and glucose metabolism.

  • Why might self-control be hard to maintain?

    Maintaining self-control is challenging due to its limited resources, akin to muscle fatigue after exertion.

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  • 00:00:05
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    well thank you I'm delighted to be here
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    I want to give my thanks to Dr heisy and
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    Dr Ford for this uh invitation it's a
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    great opportunity to come and see the uh
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    the great work being done here at the
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    Institute and also always appreciate the
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    opportunity to talk about self-control
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    and
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    willpower um the subtitle of our book
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    says this is the greatest human strength
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    now I know people say uh extravagant
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    things to try to sell books but uh
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    someone with a scientific training uh
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    can that be Justified is there some
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    basis for saying that some evidence we
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    can point to and I think it is I think
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    there's a fair statement uh more and
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    more work is coming out all the time
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    indicating the benefits uh of
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    self-control and I can contrast that
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    with self-esteem which I focused and
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    studied early in my career we had hopes
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    that high self-esteem would produce all
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    sorts of benefits uh but self-esteem was
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    uh was mostly a flop uh unfortunately uh
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    they
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    uh it was an honest mistake because they
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    found out that uh for example that
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    children who have higher self-esteem do
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    better in school uh so we thought well
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    wouldn't that be great just boost every
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    I mean in America we're always looking
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    for ways that we can get kids to learn
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    better and perform better in school
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    without having to do more homework uh so
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    just loving themselves seemed like a
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    great recipe uh but uh what it turned
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    out is that the correlations were real
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    but self-esteem was a result not a cause
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    and when they track people over time
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    getting good grades led to higher
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    self-esteem later but having higher
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    self-esteem did not lead to getting good
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    grades later however precisely that same
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    sort of evidence has been confirming the
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    value of self-control that measuring
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    self-control even fairly early in
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    life has been shown to predict all sorts
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    of better outcomes all along uh children
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    with uh with good self-control grow up
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    to become adults who do better in school
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    better in work earn more money have
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    better relationships to others they're
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    more popular uh their close
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    relationships are more stable and
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    durable uh they're happier they
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    experience less stress in life they're
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    they're better adjusted to their
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    surroundings both their mental and their
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    physical health uh show significant
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    improvements if uh if self-control is
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    high they behave better in all sorts of
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    Behavioral measures like whether they've
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    ever been arrested uh certainly things
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    like uh spousal abuse and partner
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    intimate partner abuse even restraining
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    Prejudice and so on um self-control is
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    good for that and at the far end of life
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    people with good self-control live
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    longer now indeed it's uh as I say it's
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    hard to identify any major personal uh
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    pattern of personal problems that don't
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    have some element of self-control
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    failure in them so I think on that basis
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    we can make a fair claim that uh it is
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    uh one of the the greatest human
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    strengths and possibly the greatest uh
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    in terms of what it is uh I think of
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    self-control is the capacity to change
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    yourself or in Psychology we talk about
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    responses so it's overriding one
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    response you can change your thoughts uh
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    into something else make yourself
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    concentrate shut that annoying song out
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    of your mind uh controlling your
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    emotions restraining anger and anxiety
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    things like that impulse controls quite
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    quite familiar not just with eating and
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    dieting but restraining aggressive
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    impulses sexual ones antisocial ones and
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    so forth and last self-control is
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    important for performance making
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    yourself persevere when things are
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    difficult or frustrating uh
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    concentrating figuring out where to
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    tradeoff speed versus accuracy all those
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    things so it's highly useful there the
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    uh the technical term for uh
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    self-control that the the scientific
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    literature uses is self-regulation I
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    like the term regulate because uh it
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    means change but not just any change it
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    means change based on an idea so when
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    the government regulates how how
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    buildings are made for example it
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    doesn't just say do it differently uh it
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    says well there's certain standards uh
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    certain things that you have to live up
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    to that the the building has to have a
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    certain number of Windows and Doors the
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    toilets have to flush the heat has to
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    work uh so on and so forth so it's
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    making people change their behavior to
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    conform to ideas and self-regulation
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    means changing your own Behavior Uh to
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    conform to values standards Norms laws
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    um all the things indeed that culture is
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    based on I mean I think of uh the human
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    being as essentially created by nature
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    and evolution but for culture culture is
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    our biological strategy culture as a new
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    kind of social system is how we solve
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    the problems of survival and
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    reproduction that every species faces uh
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    we make these complex social systems of
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    sharing information and working together
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    with people we're not related to on
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    these various tasks that's how we do it
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    it's been very successful for it but it
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    requires people to change their behavior
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    to conform to the rules and requirements
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    of the system among those morality uh
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    sometimes self-control has been called
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    the moral muscle I'll get to the muscle
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    part later but it's it's the capacity
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    that enables you to do what is right to
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    resist the temptation
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    uh to sin or misbehave or whatever your
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    preferred term is uh for that and indeed
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    even Free Will philosophers have gotten
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    interested in our work because it's uh
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    Bas one basis for uh Free Will
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    um so um in terms of uh how it works uh
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    I'm going describe a study that we just
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    published early this year uh many basic
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    facts about motivation and desire or not
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    known and we didn't even know how often
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    do people have wants and let alone how
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    often do they try to restrain them uh so
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    how often people are restraining
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    impulses that would give one idea of how
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    people uh how much they're using their
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    self-control on a daily basis there was
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    lots of laboratory work on self-control
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    but seeing what people do in real life
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    is a little more difficult uh so what we
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    did in this study is have people wear
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    beepers as they went around about their
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    daily lives and it was a small actually
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    medium-sized town in central Germany a
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    couple hundred people wore beepers and
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    whenever the Beeper went off they're
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    supposed to stop and say are you having
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    a desire right now if so what are you
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    Desiring
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    how strong is it uh if you've if you're
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    not having one now did you have one in
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    the last half hour how strong is it in
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    conflict with your other desires are you
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    resisting the desire uh and uh and then
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    I end up doing what uh what you desire
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    um among the
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    findings um well
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    uh it looks like uh people do restrain
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    some not all I mean they uh if they're
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    not restraining the desire uh then uh
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    well you don't always act on every
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    desire even if you're restraining it
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    yourself I mean sometimes I don't know
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    you don't have a gun
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    uh but for whatever reason uh as you see
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    about 2/3 2/3 to 3/4 of desires are
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    enacted if you don't resist them if you
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    do resist that drops to 177% so it's a
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    huge drop and that means that your own
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    your own process of resisting your
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    desires uh is is likely used quite a bit
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    every day and with with great success
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    not perfect success there's still 177%
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    there uh but uh but considerable success
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    in terms of how much that happens
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    extrapolating from remember we were just
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    beeping people throughout the day and we
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    can extrapolate from those findings to
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    say how much our desires felt it looks
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    like the average person is in a state of
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    Desire 8 hours a day uh spends 3 to four
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    hours a day resisting desires so the
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    self-control uh is a something that
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    people use quite a bit um and then
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    there's a glorious or naughty half hour
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    a day uh that is spent inding in
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    temptations that you have previously
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    resisted um what else do we find uh now
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    um crucial point in in terms of the
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    effectiveness of self-control or the
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    operation of it uh is that uh the energy
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    that's based on akin to the FK concept
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    of willpower that that's limited and
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    that's something that u in my laboratory
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    and now and quite a few others uh that
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    has been studied rather extensively uh
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    we called these effects ego depletion it
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    looks like some kind of energy gets used
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    up uh when you exert self-control so
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    that if another demand for self-control
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    comes along uh soon after that you have
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    less energy available for it less
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    willpower and so one sign of it is that
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    you tend to do worse on the second I can
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    describe one of the early experiments
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    that we did to show this sort of Point
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    um we uh uh told people in in Psychology
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    you can't usually tell people exactly
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    what they're studying because then they
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    get all very self-conscious about that
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    and certainly if we tell them come on in
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    we're going to test your willpower uh
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    we'd get people who are in in a strange
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    mental state by the time they arrive so
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    we told them no we're just studying how
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    well you can remember things that you've
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    tasted but he said but because of that
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    we'd ask you not to eat anything for 3
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    hours before the experiment so they come
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    to the lab and they're hungry they
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    skipped lunch or whatever uh and then we
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    brought them into the uh the actual
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    laboratory session and uh this part I
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    guess was a little bit mean we'd set up
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    a microwave oven and bake chocolate chip
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    cookies in there uh so and you know how
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    it blows out delicious aroma so we knew
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    it was good cuz other people at offices
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    on the hallway were complaining I'm
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    trying to do my statistics and you got
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    that chocolate chip flavor all day um so
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    anyway our participant comes for the
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    study is is hungry missed lunch and then
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    comes in there's this delicious Aroma we
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    seat him or her at a table and there's a
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    tray of these freshly baked cookies and
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    in case they weren't any cookies also
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    chocolate candies all Tastefully
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    arranged in a very appealing uh
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    structure and also on the table there's
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    a bowl of radishes uh and uh by random
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    assignment sometimes the experimenter
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    says well you're going to be in the
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    radish condition so your task is to
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    taste the radishes and just don't touch
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    the cookies and chocolates there for
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    other people in the
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    experiment uh so we wanted them to do
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    you know is use up their willpower
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    resisting the Temptation we left them
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    alone for 5 minutes ostensibly to eat a
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    radish uh but uh you know so that they
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    could think that they could get away
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    with it of course we didn't trust them
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    uh so we secretly observed people
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    through a little observation with window
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    and they they looked like they were
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    tempted and lots of longing glances at
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    the uh at the uh chocolates and you know
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    people picked them up and sniff them and
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    put them back um but nobody actually bid
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    into the forbidden food and everybody
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    managed to eat the better part of a
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    radish now we had two control conditions
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    uh one of which was told to eat the
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    chocolates and not the radishes that was
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    no problem uh and then in case there's
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    anything special about food we had a no
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    food control group but the ones we
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    interested in are of course the ones who
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    had a sit there seeing those chocolates
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    and smelling those chocolates and
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    wanting those chocolates and cookies uh
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    but instead have to make themselves eat
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    those stupid
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    radishes um so uh then the next part of
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    the procedure we we took them to a
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    different room and this was borrowed
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    from stress research which we see how
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    long people work at a task that's very
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    difficult and frustrating before they
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    give up because that that takes uh
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    self-control too you feel like uh
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    quitting it's you're not getting
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    anywhere and you have to make yourself
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    keep trying and keep at it uh and so we
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    measured how long these were actually
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    unsolvable puzzles cuz you know it
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    spoils the experiment if they solve it
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    uh but if you just make difficult
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    solvable ones it's the same same result
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    uh anyway as you see uh the results
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    there um the uh um the the radish
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    condition people quit uh more than 10
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    minutes faster than the others so
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    resisting that Temptation resisting the
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    temptation to eat chocolates and cookies
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    that took something out of them that
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    used up some kind of inner resource that
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    they then did not have to enable them to
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    keep trying and keep working and keep
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    persevering at the puzzle and it was a
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    big effect for laboratory measure this
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    is rather large effect five minutes of
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    resisting uh the the cookie Temptation
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    took 10 minutes off their perseverance
  • 00:12:09
    uh on the uh on the
  • 00:12:11
    task um so uh anyway that's the kind of
  • 00:12:14
    laboratory evidence that's built on
  • 00:12:16
    there many our laboratory many others
  • 00:12:19
    have uh replicated some British folks
  • 00:12:22
    published a metanalysis last year that
  • 00:12:24
    combined results of many studies they
  • 00:12:26
    confirm yes this is a real effect at
  • 00:12:27
    least in the laboratory uh but it's
  • 00:12:30
    harder to get evidence of it outside the
  • 00:12:31
    lab uh when we finished the other study
  • 00:12:34
    with the beepers it made me think could
  • 00:12:35
    we get any evidence from that to test
  • 00:12:38
    whether this is going on in everyday
  • 00:12:39
    life uh so what we did is we took uh
  • 00:12:42
    people's uh uh the beeps that we had
  • 00:12:46
    checking them all day we said how
  • 00:12:47
    recently have they resisted another
  • 00:12:50
    desire uh and how often have they
  • 00:12:52
    resisted a desire today and kind of made
  • 00:12:54
    up an index of how depleted they were
  • 00:12:56
    obviously we missed a lot so any effect
  • 00:12:58
    at all would be uh would be remarkable
  • 00:13:00
    cuz you know we're only beeping them
  • 00:13:01
    once every two hours and they might have
  • 00:13:03
    had other desires that came and went and
  • 00:13:04
    were resisted in between but for
  • 00:13:06
    whatever we did happen to pick up in our
  • 00:13:08
    random uh interventions in their lives
  • 00:13:10
    uh we could build a probe there and then
  • 00:13:12
    we could see the next time you're
  • 00:13:14
    resisting a desire are you more likely
  • 00:13:16
    to fail in other words give in and and
  • 00:13:18
    actually indulge it and uh sure enough
  • 00:13:21
    if you look at the Top Line if they're
  • 00:13:22
    not resisting uh the Temptation then it
  • 00:13:25
    makes no difference how whether they've
  • 00:13:26
    resisted previously whether they're in
  • 00:13:28
    other words in a willpower depleted
  • 00:13:30
    state that didn't make any difference
  • 00:13:31
    but look at the red line uh the more
  • 00:13:34
    often and the more recently they've
  • 00:13:35
    resisted another uh uh another desire
  • 00:13:39
    the more likely they are to give in the
  • 00:13:41
    next one that they try to resist uh so
  • 00:13:44
    indeed it does look like even outside
  • 00:13:46
    the laboratory uh your ability to
  • 00:13:48
    control and restrain your desires does
  • 00:13:50
    get weaker as the day goes on as you use
  • 00:13:52
    it it's a day at the beach of course not
  • 00:13:54
    making too many demands on your
  • 00:13:55
    willpower uh then uh you should be fine
  • 00:13:58
    and at the end of the day and uh be able
  • 00:14:01
    to resist the desires that happened to
  • 00:14:02
    crop up then but if it's been a day of
  • 00:14:04
    resisting various desires uh then uh
  • 00:14:07
    late in the day you're in this depleted
  • 00:14:10
    State uh we looked uh some other
  • 00:14:13
    findings from uh that uh that study we
  • 00:14:16
    looked at people who were scored high on
  • 00:14:18
    a a trait a questionnaire measure of
  • 00:14:19
    trait
  • 00:14:20
    self-control um and we looked for how
  • 00:14:23
    that might predict what they did in
  • 00:14:25
    everyday life obvious prediction is you
  • 00:14:27
    know you use your self-control for
  • 00:14:28
    resisting desire so you should be
  • 00:14:30
    resisting desires more if you're good at
  • 00:14:31
    self-control but no it was significant
  • 00:14:33
    in the opposite direction that was a
  • 00:14:35
    that was kind of a surprise uh what it
  • 00:14:38
    suggests uh well let me explain what
  • 00:14:40
    that means in a moment we put it
  • 00:14:41
    together with a couple other things uh
  • 00:14:42
    they have less
  • 00:14:43
    guilt um probably because of not doing
  • 00:14:46
    things that they're not supposed to also
  • 00:14:48
    showed lower stress they were happier
  • 00:14:49
    and so on what this suggests is kind of
  • 00:14:51
    a new way of thinking about willpower uh
  • 00:14:53
    is that people use it to set up their
  • 00:14:55
    lives to operate uh in an effect Ive way
  • 00:14:59
    on routines and habits uh that will
  • 00:15:02
    guide them to the right thing so rather
  • 00:15:04
    than waiting uh to bail yourself out in
  • 00:15:07
    a crisis um you uh you use it to uh to
  • 00:15:11
    establish habits to break bad habits and
  • 00:15:13
    establish good ones in the in the book
  • 00:15:14
    we call this about playing offense
  • 00:15:16
    rather than defense don't wait for the
  • 00:15:17
    moment of Crisis uh for example trade
  • 00:15:20
    self-control people with good
  • 00:15:21
    self-control do a lot better in work one
  • 00:15:23
    of the biggest effects of their
  • 00:15:24
    performance in work in school people
  • 00:15:26
    might think okay what do you need
  • 00:15:27
    self-control for to do well work in
  • 00:15:29
    school well it's probably to make
  • 00:15:30
    yourself stay up all night the night
  • 00:15:32
    before uh uh your paper is due to get it
  • 00:15:34
    done and and people will remember that
  • 00:15:36
    as the heroic act but that's not uh
  • 00:15:38
    really the right way to do it the people
  • 00:15:39
    with good self-control have better work
  • 00:15:41
    habits and we're plugging away all along
  • 00:15:42
    so they don't get themselves uh into
  • 00:15:44
    that moment of Crisis where they have to
  • 00:15:46
    use their their willpower to bail bail
  • 00:15:48
    themselves out or I can depict this in a
  • 00:15:50
    more pictorial fashion here's our
  • 00:15:53
    stereotype for many people of uh of of
  • 00:15:55
    of of self-control from Antiquity this
  • 00:15:58
    is odys
  • 00:15:59
    SL ulyses coming home from the siege of
  • 00:16:01
    Troy uh if you remember the uh the story
  • 00:16:04
    from from school the sirens sing these
  • 00:16:07
    beautiful songs and the sailors are want
  • 00:16:09
    to hear them better so they steer closer
  • 00:16:11
    to the rocks to try to hear the song
  • 00:16:13
    better and sail the the ship onto the
  • 00:16:15
    rocks and it breaks up and sinks and
  • 00:16:17
    that's that's supposedly it well
  • 00:16:19
    Odysseus wanted to hear the uh Tunes uh
  • 00:16:22
    so here he's on the deck struggling uh
  • 00:16:24
    to try to resist the temptation he's got
  • 00:16:26
    some pre-commitment devices that he uses
  • 00:16:28
    to help help himself he's tied himself
  • 00:16:30
    to the Mast so he can't grab the
  • 00:16:32
    steering wheel I don't know apparently
  • 00:16:34
    dressing up in women's clothes is
  • 00:16:35
    supposed to help
  • 00:16:37
    um the uh the guys rowing The Galley
  • 00:16:41
    they have their ears stocked up uh
  • 00:16:43
    stopped up uh so anyway this is our
  • 00:16:45
    classical image of willpower struggling
  • 00:16:47
    to resist the temptation but apparently
  • 00:16:49
    people with good self-control took a
  • 00:16:50
    different route home uh and avoided the
  • 00:16:53
    problem Al together
  • 00:16:59
    all right um now uh I think uh
  • 00:17:01
    self-control in general seems to work
  • 00:17:03
    like a muscle that's a handy analogy for
  • 00:17:06
    if you want to understand the Dynamics
  • 00:17:07
    of willpower uh what I've explained so
  • 00:17:09
    far is the first of these lines it seems
  • 00:17:11
    to get tired just like a muscle when you
  • 00:17:13
    use it uh it gets tired uh so when you
  • 00:17:16
    use your self-control all day or you use
  • 00:17:18
    it in the laboratory task resisting
  • 00:17:20
    temptation or whatever uh you've kind of
  • 00:17:22
    tired it out a little bit and so it
  • 00:17:23
    isn't quite as strong for the next
  • 00:17:25
    challenge that comes along uh two other
  • 00:17:28
    ways and it's like a muscle um people
  • 00:17:31
    conserve energy uh an athlete won't play
  • 00:17:34
    at full strength for the whole uh
  • 00:17:37
    contest until his or her energy is gone
  • 00:17:39
    and then face plant on the court and be
  • 00:17:41
    carried off uh rather once you start to
  • 00:17:43
    get tired you start to uh conserve your
  • 00:17:45
    energy you save it if you're running a
  • 00:17:47
    long distance you you don't go as fast
  • 00:17:49
    as you possibly can you pace yourself or
  • 00:17:51
    a tennis match you'll let some of the
  • 00:17:53
    ones the balls that you can't get go
  • 00:17:54
    away save your energy for the ones you
  • 00:17:56
    can get or for the important points uh
  • 00:17:58
    and that's that's what we found uh with
  • 00:18:00
    self-control too it's not that
  • 00:18:02
    self-control is uh that their willpower
  • 00:18:04
    is depleted to zero after 5 minutes of
  • 00:18:06
    of resisting this was somewhat
  • 00:18:08
    interesting to us in in doing this
  • 00:18:09
    research because we're using up people's
  • 00:18:11
    willpower and being in our experiment
  • 00:18:13
    then sending them out into the world are
  • 00:18:15
    we sending them out with with no
  • 00:18:16
    willpower to defend themselves they'd be
  • 00:18:18
    at the mercy of anyone who wants to sell
  • 00:18:20
    them something or have sex with them or
  • 00:18:23
    convince them to join a religious cult
  • 00:18:24
    or whatever but no uh it turns out
  • 00:18:26
    people do conserve their energy very
  • 00:18:28
    well so they can uh summon it up when
  • 00:18:30
    something is important uh I think maybe
  • 00:18:32
    in some ways the best analogy is a well
  • 00:18:34
    which it gets harder and harder to get
  • 00:18:36
    the water out of the well but it never
  • 00:18:37
    really runs dry there's there's still
  • 00:18:39
    some way down in
  • 00:18:40
    there the uh one other parallel uh
  • 00:18:43
    between uh selfcontrol and and a muscle
  • 00:18:46
    is that uh yes it gets tired when you
  • 00:18:48
    use it but if you use it regularly it
  • 00:18:50
    seems to get stronger uh there are about
  • 00:18:52
    a dozen published studies now uh
  • 00:18:54
    indicating that after people go and
  • 00:18:56
    perform self-control exercises for a
  • 00:18:58
    couple weeks
  • 00:18:59
    uh and these are even can be fairly
  • 00:19:00
    arbitrary ones like using your left hand
  • 00:19:03
    for things you'll normally use your
  • 00:19:04
    right hand for or changing your patterns
  • 00:19:06
    of speech or or whatever uh people do
  • 00:19:09
    these things for a couple weeks and then
  • 00:19:12
    come back to the laboratory and do
  • 00:19:13
    better on laboratory tests of
  • 00:19:16
    self-control um the things that had
  • 00:19:18
    nothing to do with whatever they were
  • 00:19:20
    exercising indeed the first study we had
  • 00:19:22
    that worked like this we told people
  • 00:19:23
    just to work on their posture for two
  • 00:19:25
    weeks we said whenever you think of it
  • 00:19:26
    sit up straight stand up straight uh
  • 00:19:29
    because that's again self-control is
  • 00:19:30
    about changing your behavior overriding
  • 00:19:32
    some response natural to slouch and
  • 00:19:34
    things like that uh so uh make yourself
  • 00:19:37
    stand up straight and the people who did
  • 00:19:38
    this and we came and we tested them on
  • 00:19:41
    various other tests that had nothing to
  • 00:19:42
    do with posture but they showed
  • 00:19:43
    substantial improvements there so I
  • 00:19:46
    think that's an important message uh
  • 00:19:48
    about uh not just self-control but how
  • 00:19:52
    psychology can really contribute to the
  • 00:19:54
    greater welfare psychology's really
  • 00:19:56
    found only two traits that predict
  • 00:19:58
    success through a broad range of uh uh
  • 00:20:01
    of walks of life and and spheres of
  • 00:20:03
    endeavor these are intelligence and
  • 00:20:05
    self-control uh we've been trying for a
  • 00:20:07
    century and not much success at
  • 00:20:08
    producing permanent changes in
  • 00:20:10
    intelligence uh but we can improve
  • 00:20:11
    self-control even in adults so it is an
  • 00:20:14
    important Avenue by which U we can make
  • 00:20:17
    people's lives better want to emphasize
  • 00:20:19
    another principle uh some people say
  • 00:20:21
    well I have good willpower for this not
  • 00:20:22
    so good for that well there's one
  • 00:20:24
    willpower resource it's the same
  • 00:20:26
    resource you use for everything it's
  • 00:20:27
    what we call a domain General uh
  • 00:20:29
    property uh so maybe you have good
  • 00:20:32
    willpower for getting your bills paid on
  • 00:20:34
    time and not good willpower for getting
  • 00:20:36
    a haircut or whatever but it's the same
  • 00:20:38
    you could devote it now it is a limited
  • 00:20:40
    quantity so people will uh use it for
  • 00:20:42
    one thing and not for another uh but uh
  • 00:20:45
    it is uh it is one resource that you use
  • 00:20:48
    for the same uh for all different tasks
  • 00:20:50
    and that's why in these studies we have
  • 00:20:52
    people deplete their willpower by say
  • 00:20:55
    resisting the temptation to eat
  • 00:20:57
    chocolate and cookies uh and then we
  • 00:21:00
    measure it in a different domain how
  • 00:21:01
    long do they persevere in a challenging
  • 00:21:03
    task so again these are the four domains
  • 00:21:06
    that most of the research literature is
  • 00:21:08
    is emphasized controlling thoughts
  • 00:21:09
    controlling feelings impulse control and
  • 00:21:11
    task performance um people use their
  • 00:21:14
    willpower for all four of these and uh
  • 00:21:17
    uh all these involve self-control uh so
  • 00:21:20
    U again the common resource and doing
  • 00:21:23
    anyone will affect your ability to do
  • 00:21:24
    any other now um willpower actually has
  • 00:21:28
    uses even Beyond self-control if uh
  • 00:21:31
    given how important self-control is if
  • 00:21:32
    this resource were only used for
  • 00:21:34
    self-control that would already make it
  • 00:21:35
    a really important part of the self uh
  • 00:21:38
    but uh uh further work has come out
  • 00:21:41
    suggesting that uh willpower can be
  • 00:21:43
    depleted by other things decision making
  • 00:21:45
    for example uh uses uh decisions uh uses
  • 00:21:49
    decisions decision- making uses
  • 00:21:50
    willpower so that after making choices
  • 00:21:53
    uh people do worse at self-control in
  • 00:21:56
    first study like this we had people make
  • 00:21:59
    a lot of choices between consumer
  • 00:22:01
    products would you rather have a red
  • 00:22:02
    t-shirt or a blue t-shirt rather have a
  • 00:22:04
    lemon sended candle or an almond sended
  • 00:22:06
    candle and on and on and on choices like
  • 00:22:08
    that other people looked at all the same
  • 00:22:10
    items rated them and stuff like that but
  • 00:22:12
    did not make choices and then we uh uh
  • 00:22:14
    tested their self-control and I think
  • 00:22:16
    one of the classic test is how long can
  • 00:22:18
    you hold your hand in ice water without
  • 00:22:19
    pulling it out again the people who had
  • 00:22:21
    made the decisions it uh it used up uh
  • 00:22:25
    some of their willpower from making
  • 00:22:27
    choices I'd rather have a blue t-shirt
  • 00:22:28
    than a a red one um by doing that then
  • 00:22:32
    they had less uh willpower left over to
  • 00:22:34
    perform well on the uh the subsequent
  • 00:22:36
    tasks also we have some uh new studies
  • 00:22:39
    still not published uh that willp power
  • 00:22:41
    is useful for initiative that people who
  • 00:22:43
    lack willpower uh tend to just uh go
  • 00:22:45
    along with the status quo or the default
  • 00:22:47
    option or leave things as they are uh
  • 00:22:50
    but to get up and take action to correct
  • 00:22:52
    a problem to take things in a new
  • 00:22:54
    direction or whatever that takes
  • 00:22:56
    willpower also so after people have Ed
  • 00:22:58
    self-control they will have a less
  • 00:23:00
    initiative and vice
  • 00:23:02
    versa uh going to the decisions um um
  • 00:23:06
    whoops uh come on come on um um I'm not
  • 00:23:11
    political but here's a photo of our
  • 00:23:13
    president looking very Dapper I'm sure
  • 00:23:15
    you'll agree in his gray gray suit well
  • 00:23:17
    it turns out he we only wears only gray
  • 00:23:19
    suits uh because I guess someone in his
  • 00:23:23
    uh staff uh read our book or the
  • 00:23:25
    research that we're doing uh and she
  • 00:23:28
    says I don't want to make decisions
  • 00:23:29
    about what I'm eating or wearing uh and
  • 00:23:31
    it's quite valid this is completely in
  • 00:23:33
    principle with all the the research
  • 00:23:34
    findings that making decisions uses up
  • 00:23:37
    uh uh the the energy and if you have uh
  • 00:23:41
    to uh make many important decisions you
  • 00:23:44
    don't want to squander your willpower uh
  • 00:23:46
    deciding what to wear or what to eat uh
  • 00:23:49
    and it also affects self-control as as a
  • 00:23:52
    recent blogger helpfully explained the
  • 00:23:54
    same
  • 00:23:55
    phenomenon um uh as Catherine says uh
  • 00:23:58
    doing things that uh
  • 00:24:02
    occasionally of course no politician
  • 00:24:04
    would actually ever do that uh but
  • 00:24:08
    uh uh anyway let me spend a couple
  • 00:24:12
    minutes here uh talking about what what
  • 00:24:15
    the patterns how decision- making
  • 00:24:16
    changes I've talked about how
  • 00:24:17
    self-control gets worse after you've
  • 00:24:19
    depleted your willpower and used up your
  • 00:24:21
    energy and other acts of self- control
  • 00:24:23
    how does decision- making change um
  • 00:24:26
    these things this work is still in
  • 00:24:27
    progress and more things coming out all
  • 00:24:29
    the time but here are some patterns that
  • 00:24:30
    have been shown uh for one thing uh if
  • 00:24:33
    people can postpone the decision uh
  • 00:24:35
    they're glad to do that they uh people
  • 00:24:37
    who's uh in the state of ego depletion
  • 00:24:40
    uh would prefer not to choose so I'm
  • 00:24:43
    going go to the decision-making
  • 00:24:45
    conferences periodically they they they
  • 00:24:47
    do research like well here's one camera
  • 00:24:49
    and here's another with all these
  • 00:24:50
    specifications which one would you buy
  • 00:24:52
    um but uh in real life people often have
  • 00:24:55
    a choice of not buying anything and keep
  • 00:24:56
    looking so we we included that option in
  • 00:24:59
    there and sure enough the people who had
  • 00:25:00
    had expended their willpower making uh
  • 00:25:03
    uh exerting acts of self-control they
  • 00:25:05
    were more likely to say oh I I don't
  • 00:25:07
    want to decide now I'm not going to pick
  • 00:25:08
    anything just keep looking or go to a
  • 00:25:10
    different website and uh have fun with
  • 00:25:13
    that um compromise people uh in their
  • 00:25:16
    normal state are real compromisers they
  • 00:25:18
    will look at the different thing look at
  • 00:25:21
    the different options or different
  • 00:25:22
    positions or whatever trade them off
  • 00:25:23
    figure out a uh the optimal man the
  • 00:25:27
    optimal point of Trad trading them off
  • 00:25:29
    uh but compromise goes out the window
  • 00:25:31
    once people's uh willpower is depleted
  • 00:25:33
    uh so after acts of self-control even
  • 00:25:35
    things like price uh and quality um most
  • 00:25:39
    people when they're in full possession
  • 00:25:41
    of their willpower they'll say well what
  • 00:25:43
    where can I get the best value for my
  • 00:25:44
    deal I don't want to get uh I want to
  • 00:25:46
    save some money but I want to get some
  • 00:25:48
    decent quality too whereas uh once
  • 00:25:50
    they're depleted they go give me the
  • 00:25:52
    cheapest or give me the best in other
  • 00:25:54
    words they just pick one dimension and
  • 00:25:56
    go to the extreme on it they don't
  • 00:25:57
    bother trading off two dimensions and as
  • 00:26:00
    the the decision-making researchers have
  • 00:26:02
    said this uh compromise is a mentally
  • 00:26:05
    complex and and strenuous sort of effort
  • 00:26:07
    it's much easier to say just give me the
  • 00:26:09
    cheapest Now the default option I think
  • 00:26:11
    I already mentioned that uh uh many
  • 00:26:14
    decisions there's an option that you can
  • 00:26:16
    do nothing and that uh um that uh will
  • 00:26:21
    will count as a decision and uh the more
  • 00:26:23
    people are depleted the more likely they
  • 00:26:24
    are to do that there's a great study
  • 00:26:26
    with Audi dealers uh where you buy an
  • 00:26:29
    Audi you have quite a few decisions to
  • 00:26:30
    make about what what features you want
  • 00:26:32
    uh so they listed the decisions in one
  • 00:26:35
    order and then they gave other people
  • 00:26:36
    the decisions in reverse order uh what
  • 00:26:39
    it turned out is as they went along
  • 00:26:40
    regardless of what order they're more
  • 00:26:41
    and more likely to uh uh pick the
  • 00:26:43
    default option uh Audi dealers turns out
  • 00:26:46
    some of them had already figured this
  • 00:26:47
    out because they start with the really
  • 00:26:49
    demanding but trivial decisions like the
  • 00:26:52
    230 kinds of interior fabric that you
  • 00:26:54
    have to choose among you use up all your
  • 00:26:56
    will willpower decide in which shade of
  • 00:26:59
    taupe would would match your mood the
  • 00:27:01
    best um and so then it's gone then by
  • 00:27:03
    the time you come to the other things
  • 00:27:05
    where extra wheel rims or rust proofing
  • 00:27:07
    or whatever then uh your will just take
  • 00:27:09
    whatever standard and that can get
  • 00:27:10
    extremely expensive or very profitable
  • 00:27:12
    for the uh the
  • 00:27:14
    dealers um other decisions people make
  • 00:27:17
    more impulsive
  • 00:27:19
    self-indulgent uh sort of of choices uh
  • 00:27:22
    when their energies depleted uh so we
  • 00:27:25
    had one study with a Yale students uh
  • 00:27:29
    either before or after studying uh think
  • 00:27:31
    that would use up their willpower and
  • 00:27:33
    then we said well you can choose which
  • 00:27:34
    movie you want to see next weekend it's
  • 00:27:35
    not to see tonight is to see next
  • 00:27:37
    weekend and some of these were uh uh
  • 00:27:39
    rather highbrow intellectual sorts of
  • 00:27:41
    movies others were uh low brow sleazy
  • 00:27:44
    sorts of entertainments uh in the full
  • 00:27:47
    possession of their energy and power
  • 00:27:49
    being the young intellectuals that they
  • 00:27:50
    are they tended to choose the highbrow
  • 00:27:52
    movies however after a few hours of
  • 00:27:53
    studying uh they went to choose the uh
  • 00:27:57
    the much more sleazy exploding cars and
  • 00:27:59
    naked peep bodies kind of thing um and
  • 00:28:03
    last irrational bias uh sometimes
  • 00:28:06
    decision- making people have figured out
  • 00:28:08
    how to show that sometimes decisions get
  • 00:28:10
    swayed by things that logically should
  • 00:28:11
    be irrelevant and there's some nice very
  • 00:28:13
    elegant procedures uh uh for testing
  • 00:28:16
    that and that irrational bias increases
  • 00:28:18
    when people seem to be depleted so they
  • 00:28:20
    somehow don't do the mental work of
  • 00:28:22
    thinking this is relevant to the
  • 00:28:23
    decision I should base it on this and
  • 00:28:25
    not that they let themselves be swayed
  • 00:28:27
    by things that that logically make no
  • 00:28:29
    difference so these are some I expect
  • 00:28:31
    there to be more things as well but the
  • 00:28:33
    general pattern is uh when your
  • 00:28:35
    willpower is depleted people shift
  • 00:28:37
    toward a a quicker more efficient lower
  • 00:28:40
    energy but more therefore more fallible
  • 00:28:42
    uh form of decision- making uh they want
  • 00:28:44
    to deal with the the process in a low
  • 00:28:47
    energy fashion which is what happens
  • 00:28:49
    when your energy has been
  • 00:28:51
    depleted um also uh relevant to uh uh
  • 00:28:56
    relevant to decision- making so on is
  • 00:28:58
    the ability to think intelligently
  • 00:29:00
    intelligent thought is uh one of the
  • 00:29:02
    great uh one of the other candidates for
  • 00:29:04
    the greatest human uh strength but that
  • 00:29:06
    too depends on Willpower people think
  • 00:29:08
    much more clearly and logically uh when
  • 00:29:10
    they're in full possession of their uh
  • 00:29:12
    resources than when they're in a a state
  • 00:29:15
    of uh depletion indeed what we've tried
  • 00:29:17
    is have people exert self-control and
  • 00:29:19
    then take an IQ test and their uh their
  • 00:29:21
    scores drop substantially uh they uh
  • 00:29:25
    your mind does not function as well um
  • 00:29:28
    now I should say not all mental
  • 00:29:29
    functions are impaired if you break it
  • 00:29:32
    down things like logical reasoning
  • 00:29:33
    versus rot memory rot memory is fine
  • 00:29:36
    when you're depleted you can uh learn
  • 00:29:37
    new information commit it to memory you
  • 00:29:39
    can bring it back um but uh logical
  • 00:29:42
    reasoning uh where you have to take
  • 00:29:44
    something and uh follow rules to reach a
  • 00:29:47
    different conclusion that is seriously
  • 00:29:49
    impaired so it looks like the high
  • 00:29:51
    energy sort of thinking where you have
  • 00:29:52
    to control your mental processes uh
  • 00:29:54
    follow different rules to move from one
  • 00:29:56
    set of things to another uh extrap
  • 00:29:58
    apption is another thing that suffers we
  • 00:29:59
    have to go from one thing to another
  • 00:30:01
    that people don't do as well uh but
  • 00:30:03
    straight taking information in and out
  • 00:30:06
    that they they seem to do well so your
  • 00:30:08
    uh your memory in a sense uh Works uh it
  • 00:30:11
    works fine you're not it's not that many
  • 00:30:14
    IQ tests have a vocabulary test your
  • 00:30:16
    vocabulary is still there uh when you're
  • 00:30:19
    depleted um it's uh it's not like uh my
  • 00:30:23
    father's 86 he came to visit there and
  • 00:30:25
    he was complaining about his memory and
  • 00:30:26
    I so I told the joke about the old lady
  • 00:30:29
    who talked her way out of the traffic
  • 00:30:30
    ticket it usually the pretty young woman
  • 00:30:32
    but uh um the old woman she says you
  • 00:30:37
    know's where are you where are you going
  • 00:30:38
    so fast
  • 00:30:40
    lady what's the rush you're speeding and
  • 00:30:42
    she says I'm sorry officer I'm just
  • 00:30:43
    trying to get where uh I'm supposed to
  • 00:30:45
    go before I forget where I'm going and
  • 00:30:48
    uh
  • 00:30:50
    so my father like that he said he said
  • 00:30:53
    I've got to remember that joke and uh
  • 00:30:56
    the next day I said you remember the
  • 00:30:58
    joke you wanted to remember he said what
  • 00:30:59
    joke I said the joke about the old lady
  • 00:31:02
    no that she was speeding I don't think
  • 00:31:04
    I've heard it uh I told it to him again
  • 00:31:07
    he liked it again um anyway uh depletion
  • 00:31:11
    is not like that your your your basic
  • 00:31:13
    memory still works fine but the
  • 00:31:15
    reasoning the difficult ambitious
  • 00:31:16
    functions uh those seem to be uh
  • 00:31:19
    impaired and
  • 00:31:20
    degraded uh in terms of what happens
  • 00:31:22
    physically with willpower I mean we use
  • 00:31:24
    the term as a folk term it's somewhat a
  • 00:31:26
    metaphor um
  • 00:31:28
    I'm I'm not a brain expert but uh just
  • 00:31:30
    in in simple terms you know the brain
  • 00:31:32
    evolved through the different species
  • 00:31:34
    and so on basically from back to front
  • 00:31:36
    uh so the back has the simple uh uh this
  • 00:31:39
    is what I want how am I going to get it
  • 00:31:41
    uh sort of things and then the farther
  • 00:31:42
    front you go go with the restraint and
  • 00:31:44
    control so uh the the self-control uh
  • 00:31:47
    capacities will be located in the front
  • 00:31:49
    Parts the uh the front frontal and the
  • 00:31:51
    prefrontal cortex in particular um uh
  • 00:31:55
    perhaps more surprising and interesting
  • 00:31:57
    uh body part of the
  • 00:32:00
    um the self-control story it seems to be
  • 00:32:03
    tied in some complex ways to a glucose
  • 00:32:06
    now glucose is a chemical in the
  • 00:32:07
    bloodstream uh that carries the energy
  • 00:32:10
    uh from the digestive system uh to the
  • 00:32:12
    muscles and and to the brain glucose I
  • 00:32:15
    think means something like sugar but
  • 00:32:16
    it's not made just from sugar anything
  • 00:32:18
    you eat protein and so on is
  • 00:32:19
    particularly good um and uh
  • 00:32:23
    neurotransmitters that enable the brain
  • 00:32:25
    to function are made out of glucose um
  • 00:32:28
    so it's it's you can think of it crudely
  • 00:32:31
    as fuel for the brain and uh we have
  • 00:32:33
    some evidence that when the glucose is
  • 00:32:35
    low uh that uh self-control is impaired
  • 00:32:39
    either you can manipulate it to be low
  • 00:32:41
    uh there some evidence that it drops
  • 00:32:43
    when people exert self-control that the
  • 00:32:45
    levels of glucose in the bloodstream
  • 00:32:47
    drop uh some other studies not finding
  • 00:32:49
    that so that's that's complicated but
  • 00:32:50
    there's lots of glucose in the in the
  • 00:32:52
    body what what does seem to work is when
  • 00:32:54
    people exert self-control if they get a
  • 00:32:56
    dose of glucose tol replenish it in 10
  • 00:32:59
    or 15 minutes or however long it takes
  • 00:33:00
    to digest it it restores their ability
  • 00:33:02
    to control themselves we do this in the
  • 00:33:05
    lab and very easy way since being in the
  • 00:33:07
    South we give people a glass of lemonade
  • 00:33:09
    when they arrive at the experiment and
  • 00:33:10
    by random assignment it's either a glass
  • 00:33:12
    of lemonade sweetened with sugar or with
  • 00:33:14
    Splenda a diet sweetener the two taste
  • 00:33:16
    just as good they're just as happy with
  • 00:33:18
    the drink they can't tell the difference
  • 00:33:19
    so it can be double blind uh experiment
  • 00:33:22
    that neither the experiment nor the
  • 00:33:23
    participant knows uh what kind of what's
  • 00:33:26
    in the lemonade and then when we uh look
  • 00:33:28
    it up later um you have to wait 10 or 15
  • 00:33:31
    minutes for the sugar to have an effect
  • 00:33:33
    but uh when you check with them later
  • 00:33:36
    the uh the people who got sugar don't
  • 00:33:38
    show the depletion effect of impaired
  • 00:33:40
    self-control because presumably when the
  • 00:33:43
    the amount was getting used up then the
  • 00:33:46
    uh there was more coming in and more
  • 00:33:48
    being pumped out by the digestive system
  • 00:33:50
    um now I'm not unmindful of the irony of
  • 00:33:53
    using sugar to improve self-control many
  • 00:33:56
    people want to use it to restrain that
  • 00:33:57
    want to caution don't use don't try this
  • 00:33:59
    at home uh this is just I mean seriously
  • 00:34:03
    we uh in the laboratory we just have
  • 00:34:04
    people for 10 or 15 minutes or an hour
  • 00:34:07
    at most uh so we need something that
  • 00:34:08
    works fast and uh uh the sugar works
  • 00:34:12
    very fast if if you want to get a
  • 00:34:15
    sustained glucose in your own life or
  • 00:34:17
    writing a paper or doing a different
  • 00:34:18
    task all afternoon you should probably
  • 00:34:20
    go to protein or something that the body
  • 00:34:21
    Burns slower the sugar sends you up
  • 00:34:23
    quickly but then crashes quickly um so
  • 00:34:28
    uh now glucose it turns out is is is
  • 00:34:30
    indeed used for self-control and
  • 00:34:32
    decision- making and we've had even
  • 00:34:34
    changes in people's logical decision
  • 00:34:35
    making uh as a function of which kind of
  • 00:34:38
    lemonade they drank uh with the the the
  • 00:34:40
    sugared lemonade actually restoring
  • 00:34:42
    their ability to make logical decisions
  • 00:34:44
    uh better than the other uh of course
  • 00:34:47
    glucose is part of the body's energy
  • 00:34:48
    system so it's used for other things too
  • 00:34:49
    physical exertion uh will uh will will
  • 00:34:52
    drain it and haven't really gotten much
  • 00:34:55
    research evidence connecting physical
  • 00:34:56
    tiredness
  • 00:34:58
    uh but it hasn't really been tested to
  • 00:35:01
    self-control um the immune system is
  • 00:35:03
    another big user of glucose and uh this
  • 00:35:05
    is kind of interesting to me it's uh one
  • 00:35:07
    thing that I always you know had good
  • 00:35:09
    discipline and when I got sick you know
  • 00:35:11
    the doctor would say well you shouldn't
  • 00:35:13
    work just take a nap take it easy well
  • 00:35:15
    I'm I'm not working like digging ditches
  • 00:35:17
    or lifting weights or anything I'm just
  • 00:35:18
    sitting at the computer working I can do
  • 00:35:20
    that that won't make me sick but turns
  • 00:35:22
    out that was wrong I mean for one thing
  • 00:35:24
    I noticed that the work I did in that
  • 00:35:25
    state was generally bad uh but uh
  • 00:35:28
    there's a reason your body wants to go
  • 00:35:29
    ahead it's it's using all the energy to
  • 00:35:32
    fight the germs the immune system is a
  • 00:35:34
    is a is a big user but an uneven user so
  • 00:35:37
    sometimes it's not using any other times
  • 00:35:39
    it starts to use a lot so you want to
  • 00:35:40
    give it what your body wants you to do
  • 00:35:42
    is go to bed and go to sleep for 36
  • 00:35:44
    hours um and I've tried to do that and
  • 00:35:47
    that actually works it ends up being
  • 00:35:49
    more efficient in the long run than
  • 00:35:50
    trying to make yourself work and being
  • 00:35:51
    sick for 2 weeks um so uh again uh the
  • 00:35:56
    this part of the system that your body W
  • 00:35:58
    uses the energy for fighting disease uh
  • 00:36:00
    also some evidence regarding women's
  • 00:36:03
    premenstrual syndrome which you know the
  • 00:36:05
    mythology surrounding that is that you
  • 00:36:06
    know certain women turn into monsters at
  • 00:36:08
    this particular time of the month or
  • 00:36:10
    whatever develop these but uh turns out
  • 00:36:12
    what happens is at that stage of the
  • 00:36:14
    menstrual cycle the body needs a lot of
  • 00:36:16
    glucose for its reproductive activity so
  • 00:36:17
    it pulls it off uh and doesn't leave as
  • 00:36:20
    much for self-control uh many women eat
  • 00:36:22
    more than usual during that stage but
  • 00:36:24
    they don't eat enough more to compensate
  • 00:36:26
    for the increased demands
  • 00:36:28
    the metabolic demands of the
  • 00:36:29
    reproductive system and so what you see
  • 00:36:31
    with PMS is not some particular kind of
  • 00:36:33
    behavior but sort of a general breakdown
  • 00:36:35
    in restraints and they're more likely to
  • 00:36:36
    do whatever they do and if they're
  • 00:36:39
    inclined to shoplift or yell at their
  • 00:36:41
    Partners or whatever they do those uh
  • 00:36:43
    drug use increases and there's no
  • 00:36:45
    particular drug uh almost whatever if
  • 00:36:47
    she's a drinker she drinks more if she's
  • 00:36:49
    a smoker she smokes more uh if she uh
  • 00:36:52
    heroin cocaine whatever her thing is
  • 00:36:54
    that increases during that stage of the
  • 00:36:56
    the month the only exception
  • 00:36:57
    interestingly was uh marijuana uh which
  • 00:37:00
    does not increase uh with pre PMS but
  • 00:37:02
    marijuana unlike other drugs just sort
  • 00:37:04
    of gives you more of whatever you're
  • 00:37:05
    feeling now and I think if you're
  • 00:37:06
    feeling grumpy and cranky mad at the
  • 00:37:08
    world who wants to double dose of
  • 00:37:12
    that um so uh what I'm trying to argue
  • 00:37:16
    here is that your ability to exert
  • 00:37:18
    self-control and make rational decisions
  • 00:37:20
    is tied into the bondage Energy System
  • 00:37:22
    and to the glucose Dynamics and so other
  • 00:37:24
    things you know immune functions
  • 00:37:25
    fighting a cold physical exertion other
  • 00:37:27
    demands take their toll on it okay uh
  • 00:37:31
    last thing I will talk about uh before I
  • 00:37:34
    I quit oh have a little bit of time let
  • 00:37:36
    me say one more thing about glucose and
  • 00:37:39
    decisionmaking um was a great uh article
  • 00:37:42
    published uh I think right around the
  • 00:37:44
    time we got an advanced word for it's
  • 00:37:46
    covered in the book uh that had to do
  • 00:37:48
    with Decisions by judges on make on
  • 00:37:49
    whether people should get parole they
  • 00:37:51
    got this was done in Israel and they got
  • 00:37:53
    access to all the parole decisions that
  • 00:37:55
    the the judges would make you know the
  • 00:37:57
    the parole decision is somebody's been
  • 00:37:59
    in prison for a certain amount of time
  • 00:38:01
    wants to be released thinks he's
  • 00:38:02
    reformed paid his debt these are all
  • 00:38:04
    males um and so the judge has to decide
  • 00:38:07
    well is this person sent him out into
  • 00:38:09
    the world or to send him back and the
  • 00:38:11
    default is just to send him back because
  • 00:38:13
    that's safer the risk for the judge if
  • 00:38:15
    you send him out into the world the guy
  • 00:38:17
    commits another crime and makes the
  • 00:38:18
    judge look bad and reflects bad on the
  • 00:38:20
    system so the easy thing is just send
  • 00:38:22
    them all back but you know many of these
  • 00:38:23
    guys have indeed paid their debt and
  • 00:38:25
    reformed and deserve to get it well
  • 00:38:28
    it turns out that uh if you come up
  • 00:38:30
    before the judge's first thing in the
  • 00:38:31
    morning your chances of getting parole
  • 00:38:32
    are pretty good but as the day wears on
  • 00:38:36
    your chances get worse and worse it's
  • 00:38:38
    and now it's not a complete steady
  • 00:38:40
    downhill uh because at 10:30 there's a
  • 00:38:42
    break where the judges get a a banana
  • 00:38:44
    and a sandwich and then uh the
  • 00:38:47
    likelihood of gring peole goes up again
  • 00:38:49
    uh and then it goes down again and down
  • 00:38:51
    again uh if you're the last one before
  • 00:38:53
    they have lunch 15% is your chances of
  • 00:38:56
    getting getting parole 15% very little
  • 00:39:00
    the next guy in line the first one after
  • 00:39:02
    lunch is pared at about a 2/3 rate it is
  • 00:39:05
    a huge jump so you can see the glucose
  • 00:39:09
    coming into the system and giving them
  • 00:39:10
    the energy to make the tougher decision
  • 00:39:12
    uh seems to uh seems to have a
  • 00:39:14
    significant influence as it was saying
  • 00:39:17
    in the legal profession that Justice is
  • 00:39:18
    whatever the judge had for breakfast and
  • 00:39:21
    uh well it's we would add its snack and
  • 00:39:23
    lunch too apparently uh that's having an
  • 00:39:26
    influence there anyway I think what that
  • 00:39:28
    shows uh in a in a very important real
  • 00:39:31
    setting with real consequences for
  • 00:39:32
    serious human beings that decision-
  • 00:39:34
    making is indeed affected by the
  • 00:39:37
    availability of glucose in the decision
  • 00:39:38
    and you know some sympathy for the
  • 00:39:40
    judges too they are working hard making
  • 00:39:42
    these decisions but as you make decision
  • 00:39:44
    after decision all day you eventually
  • 00:39:46
    use up uh your your willpower that it's
  • 00:39:48
    consumed there and you won't be able to
  • 00:39:50
    make them as effectively later in the
  • 00:39:52
    day uh as you could early in the day so
  • 00:39:55
    last thing what is depletion feel like
  • 00:39:58
    uh what is the state how do you know
  • 00:40:00
    when your willpower is down I can't
  • 00:40:02
    resist putting up this as a the London
  • 00:40:04
    times did a review of our book and uh
  • 00:40:06
    capture this pictorially uh it's sort of
  • 00:40:08
    charming that's their impression of what
  • 00:40:10
    it looks like I want to point out she is
  • 00:40:11
    holding an apple there it's not always
  • 00:40:13
    the first thing people notice
  • 00:40:18
    uh but uh but surrounded by Temptations
  • 00:40:23
    um anyway uh it turns out there is no
  • 00:40:26
    particular
  • 00:40:28
    uh feeling that's associated with it uh
  • 00:40:30
    I mentioned the meta analysis that had
  • 00:40:32
    combined results of I think 80 or 90
  • 00:40:34
    different experiments uh that the the
  • 00:40:37
    British guys did uh and they they said
  • 00:40:39
    well the behavioral effects are very
  • 00:40:40
    clear but the the report of how it it
  • 00:40:43
    feels like the emotion stuff there's
  • 00:40:45
    hardly anything that is worth talking
  • 00:40:46
    about you a tiny little effect on some
  • 00:40:49
    studies that they uh feel a little more
  • 00:40:51
    tired and a tiny little effect sometimes
  • 00:40:52
    they're a little bit more negative mood
  • 00:40:54
    but uh essentially no there's no feeling
  • 00:40:57
    that goes with it um well
  • 00:41:01
    um so we've tried to follow this up is
  • 00:41:04
    there really no signature uh no
  • 00:41:06
    emotional or no subjective feeling at
  • 00:41:08
    all associated with it and what turns
  • 00:41:10
    out that we have had is that actually
  • 00:41:11
    all desires and feelings uh seem to be
  • 00:41:14
    intensified so in a series of studies
  • 00:41:16
    people who are depleted will be more
  • 00:41:19
    upset by an upsetting movie they will
  • 00:41:21
    find the scary pictures to be scarier
  • 00:41:23
    but they'll find that the good pictures
  • 00:41:25
    good the puppies look actually cuter to
  • 00:41:27
    you uh when you've depleted your
  • 00:41:28
    willpower uh and things you've never
  • 00:41:30
    seen before Chinese characters you you
  • 00:41:32
    like the uh attractive ones more you
  • 00:41:35
    just like the other ones uh more so uh
  • 00:41:38
    things are polarized in both directions
  • 00:41:39
    we repeated the the hand in the ice
  • 00:41:41
    water study which is kind of standard uh
  • 00:41:44
    well as usual the depleted people pull
  • 00:41:45
    their hand out earlier that's that's the
  • 00:41:47
    that's a familiar part but we also noted
  • 00:41:49
    they said the water was colder and more
  • 00:41:51
    painful it it it bothered them more so
  • 00:41:54
    uh in a sense what depletion feels like
  • 00:41:56
    it's turning up the volume
  • 00:41:57
    on your life in general all manner of
  • 00:42:00
    things uh seem to hit you more strongly
  • 00:42:02
    and this I want to point out this
  • 00:42:03
    creates practical problems for people
  • 00:42:05
    who are trying to quit smoking or diet
  • 00:42:07
    or recover from a drug addiction or
  • 00:42:09
    whatever not only is their willpower
  • 00:42:11
    depleted by whatever they're they're
  • 00:42:13
    doing but also then the desires are
  • 00:42:15
    experienced more strongly so uh that uh
  • 00:42:20
    uh puts the person in a double
  • 00:42:21
    vulnerability I have the depleted person
  • 00:42:23
    I have less willpower to resist
  • 00:42:26
    temptation and the Temptation is
  • 00:42:28
    stronger uh than ever um so that's
  • 00:42:31
    something worth knowing it would be
  • 00:42:33
    nicer if nature had given us a big
  • 00:42:34
    signal so we would know when we were
  • 00:42:36
    depleted uh but uh that's the one thing
  • 00:42:38
    to watch out
  • 00:42:40
    for all right uh to conclude then uh a
  • 00:42:43
    capacity to control ourselves uh is uh
  • 00:42:46
    limited uh indeed but it is powerful
  • 00:42:49
    many people say that they don't have
  • 00:42:50
    enough self-control that they wish they
  • 00:42:52
    had more uh and so on indeed a big
  • 00:42:55
    International uh survey of several
  • 00:42:58
    hundred thousand people possibly over a
  • 00:42:59
    million uh rating 24 different uh
  • 00:43:02
    strengths and virtues that people have
  • 00:43:05
    self-control was the least often listed
  • 00:43:07
    as one of the best things and the most
  • 00:43:09
    often listed as one of my major
  • 00:43:11
    weaknesses uh so clearly a lot of people
  • 00:43:14
    the majority think we don't have enough
  • 00:43:15
    self-control but the glass is really
  • 00:43:17
    half full and half empty we have a lot
  • 00:43:19
    more capacity for self-control than any
  • 00:43:21
    other species it's probably why we can
  • 00:43:24
    make cultur succeed where other species
  • 00:43:26
    have not been able to do it it even
  • 00:43:27
    though it's a tremendous biological
  • 00:43:29
    strategy uh you know no other no other
  • 00:43:31
    mammal on the planet has uh seen its
  • 00:43:34
    population increase as astronomically as
  • 00:43:36
    ours has um nor has it uh been able to
  • 00:43:40
    increase its life expectancy uh so both
  • 00:43:42
    survival and reproduction uh
  • 00:43:44
    tremendously benefited by culture anyway
  • 00:43:48
    um this capacity enables us to function
  • 00:43:51
    there we really do have a lot as I said
  • 00:43:52
    the glass is half full but also half
  • 00:43:54
    empty we realize the many benefits that
  • 00:43:56
    it brings and yes
  • 00:43:57
    uh we would be better off if we had even
  • 00:43:59
    more self-control uh than we do have but
  • 00:44:02
    uh don't feel bad we do have we do have
  • 00:44:03
    quite a lot uh this energy as one of the
  • 00:44:06
    key bases for self-control uh that uh
  • 00:44:10
    this willpower
  • 00:44:12
    somewhat hesitantly adopted the folk
  • 00:44:15
    term uh the energy makes it possible to
  • 00:44:20
    exert self-control to restrain your
  • 00:44:21
    impulses to make yourself do the things
  • 00:44:23
    that you you should do and so on but
  • 00:44:25
    that willpower is also used for other
  • 00:44:27
    important functions uh psychological
  • 00:44:29
    ones including uh making decisions and
  • 00:44:31
    choices and taking initiative uh and now
  • 00:44:34
    we're thinking also that energy seems to
  • 00:44:36
    be used uh in fighting illnesses and
  • 00:44:39
    other sorts of things and so last I
  • 00:44:41
    think it's a fair claim that this is
  • 00:44:43
    indeed the the greatest human strength
  • 00:44:45
    uh it is something that benefits us
  • 00:44:47
    individually and collectively it's
  • 00:44:49
    something that is probably the greatest
  • 00:44:51
    gift you can give your child much more
  • 00:44:53
    valuable for getting through life than
  • 00:44:54
    self-esteem and ultimately it's
  • 00:44:56
    something that enables us to be uh more
  • 00:44:59
    fully human uh and to get the most out
  • 00:45:01
    of our experience thank you very
  • 00:45:13
    much I will take questions I want to
  • 00:45:16
    remind you this is all being recorded so
  • 00:45:18
    please no
  • 00:45:19
    nudity uh okay uh start in the front
  • 00:45:23
    sure I'll I'll all these
  • 00:45:25
    for anyone
  • 00:45:28
    continuing is it is it on yes continuing
  • 00:45:32
    the point between glucose and will power
  • 00:45:36
    have you looked at diabetics
  • 00:45:38
    specifically because they have such wild
  • 00:45:40
    swings and glucose levels yes uh that's
  • 00:45:43
    a good question about diabetics I have
  • 00:45:45
    not done that research but uh there is
  • 00:45:48
    research on them and yes they do
  • 00:45:49
    experience problems in self-control they
  • 00:45:51
    have plenty of glucose in their blood in
  • 00:45:53
    many cases but it doesn't do them any
  • 00:45:55
    good because their system is not able to
  • 00:45:57
    metabolize it to convert it into
  • 00:45:59
    decision- making and self-control and
  • 00:46:01
    these things um my my co-author John
  • 00:46:04
    Tierney interviewed uh uh this uh I
  • 00:46:08
    remember his name now there's a comedian
  • 00:46:10
    who has a um jokes about being diabetic
  • 00:46:13
    and he tells a bunch of stories about
  • 00:46:16
    gets in the state and he can't control
  • 00:46:17
    himself he can't even make a simple
  • 00:46:18
    decision he a story about being at the
  • 00:46:21
    beach where he suddenly knew he had to
  • 00:46:22
    go and eat something and he was with his
  • 00:46:24
    son and said well let's put all the the
  • 00:46:26
    uh the toys away in these two buckets uh
  • 00:46:28
    that we have uh and he couldn't think of
  • 00:46:30
    how to put which toy in which bucket so
  • 00:46:32
    he said well the only The Logical way to
  • 00:46:34
    do it the first thing he thought it was
  • 00:46:35
    put them back in the bucket they came in
  • 00:46:36
    but then they had to remember that so
  • 00:46:37
    they spent all this time you completely
  • 00:46:40
    wasted time putting this in that this
  • 00:46:42
    toy into this one and they finally got
  • 00:46:43
    it right and they walked up and there
  • 00:46:44
    was he had to go to the bathroom and get
  • 00:46:45
    something to eat but there they were the
  • 00:46:47
    same place was the men's room and the
  • 00:46:49
    hot dog stand and he couldn't decide she
  • 00:46:52
    pee first or eat first and he just sat
  • 00:46:55
    down and waited 20 minutes he couldn't
  • 00:46:57
    make the decision as to which which to
  • 00:46:59
    do first you know obviously doing either
  • 00:47:02
    first would have gotten him gotten both
  • 00:47:04
    done in a faster time so uh yes I'm I'm
  • 00:47:07
    sympathetic to uh diabetics having these
  • 00:47:09
    problems and uh uh it is it is an issue
  • 00:47:13
    uh we had the thought at one point that
  • 00:47:15
    uh people become used to being diabetics
  • 00:47:17
    and they used to become the managing
  • 00:47:18
    control and so on and there would
  • 00:47:19
    actually experienced diabetics would
  • 00:47:21
    have pretty good self-control because it
  • 00:47:23
    would would work like exercise I don't
  • 00:47:25
    know anybody's tested that but in the
  • 00:47:27
    short run they do seem to have trouble
  • 00:47:28
    things bother them more the emotional
  • 00:47:30
    control impulsiveness that that's that's
  • 00:47:32
    more common okay use
  • 00:47:37
    next would eating a better diet you know
  • 00:47:40
    we so many people in America just eat
  • 00:47:42
    fast food and stuff like that would that
  • 00:47:45
    help you prevent U depletion and improve
  • 00:47:48
    your willpower is one question and my
  • 00:47:50
    other question is what parameters made
  • 00:47:53
    you choose a small town in Germany to do
  • 00:47:56
    your study
  • 00:47:58
    uh okay second one first uh it was not
  • 00:48:00
    my decision U vburg uh is a is a
  • 00:48:04
    mediumsized town I didn't choose it I
  • 00:48:07
    was working with a German researcher at
  • 00:48:08
    that University there uh so he said well
  • 00:48:10
    we'll just run a thing in the local
  • 00:48:11
    paper because they had to bring him in
  • 00:48:13
    uh people to give them a training and uh
  • 00:48:16
    give them the the beepers to carry
  • 00:48:17
    around and stuff so that uh that was
  • 00:48:19
    just where it was convenient uh so uh
  • 00:48:21
    the the more profound question in terms
  • 00:48:23
    of diet uh well um yes uh
  • 00:48:27
    actually when we first get the got these
  • 00:48:29
    findings we didn't we were very
  • 00:48:30
    surprised by them and they're very much
  • 00:48:32
    at the time out of fashion in in
  • 00:48:34
    Psychology um so we looked at the
  • 00:48:37
    nutrition literature and nutritionists
  • 00:48:38
    without much guiding Theory had
  • 00:48:40
    collected a lot of data on glucose
  • 00:48:42
    issues indicating yes that uh diet does
  • 00:48:46
    make a difference and that people with
  • 00:48:48
    uh glucose issues and and so on eating
  • 00:48:50
    the fast food the the high carbo
  • 00:48:53
    hydrates and sugar sort of thing that
  • 00:48:54
    will give you a boost of energy so if
  • 00:48:56
    you have a important decision to make in
  • 00:48:58
    the next 15 minutes uh well it takes 15
  • 00:49:01
    minutes but uh um between 15 and 30
  • 00:49:03
    minutes if you have an important
  • 00:49:04
    decision to make then okay have the real
  • 00:49:07
    coke not the diet coke uh but if you
  • 00:49:09
    want something that will last you over a
  • 00:49:11
    longer period of time I think you know
  • 00:49:12
    sugar and carbs are not advised that a
  • 00:49:14
    protein Rich diet would probably uh do
  • 00:49:17
    uh do better and do more good in the
  • 00:49:19
    long run they're very nicely controlled
  • 00:49:20
    studies showing some of this things like
  • 00:49:23
    they bring a whole class of school kids
  • 00:49:24
    tell them don't nobody eat breakfast so
  • 00:49:26
    the kids arrive at School hungry they
  • 00:49:28
    randomly assign give half of them
  • 00:49:30
    breakfast and the other of them don't
  • 00:49:31
    get breakfast and then measure what
  • 00:49:33
    happens well the ones who had breakfast
  • 00:49:34
    they behave better and they learn better
  • 00:49:37
    uh than the ones who didn't have
  • 00:49:38
    breakfast at 10:30 uh everybody gets a
  • 00:49:41
    snack and all the differences disappear
  • 00:49:43
    so yes having the right fuel in the tank
  • 00:49:46
    uh does seem to translate into into
  • 00:49:48
    behavior um the uh you know the rise in
  • 00:49:51
    ADHD is one of the big Mysteries is it
  • 00:49:54
    was it always there just not noticed has
  • 00:49:56
    there been an actual change and if
  • 00:49:58
    there's been an increase in that uh what
  • 00:50:00
    are the candidates to explain it there
  • 00:50:03
    the two leading ones people argue are
  • 00:50:04
    our television uh and uh and increase in
  • 00:50:08
    sugar in the diet and I kind of Bas bet
  • 00:50:11
    on on sugar uh uh people kids consume a
  • 00:50:13
    lot more sugar now than they do and it
  • 00:50:15
    uh it is really uh you know has these
  • 00:50:19
    these effects on kids and and that is
  • 00:50:21
    kind of what the ADHD is
  • 00:50:23
    a deficit in self-control as a
  • 00:50:27
    um that just becomes difficult for them
  • 00:50:29
    so anyway that all sorts of things I
  • 00:50:31
    haven't done this work but it's all very
  • 00:50:33
    plausible thank okay two more questions
  • 00:50:35
    here um
  • 00:50:41
    okay uh I spent a lot of time in Asia
  • 00:50:44
    particularly Korea and they have a very
  • 00:50:47
    disciplined or self-controlled society
  • 00:50:51
    and they're under tremendous pressure
  • 00:50:53
    and so they blow this pressure off and
  • 00:50:55
    go wild when they're not not studying
  • 00:50:57
    just to balance that out but do you see
  • 00:51:00
    any uh societal impacts on the the
  • 00:51:04
    levels of self-control and
  • 00:51:06
    willpower yes absolutely and you you
  • 00:51:09
    mentioned the Asians in uh in
  • 00:51:11
    researching the book I I read a bunch of
  • 00:51:13
    things there not just the uh was it the
  • 00:51:15
    battle him of the tiger mom uh but also
  • 00:51:18
    you know some of the documented studies
  • 00:51:20
    about asian-americans and others there's
  • 00:51:22
    a stereotype that they're smarter than
  • 00:51:24
    the rest of us but the IQ experts say no
  • 00:51:26
    they're not smarter uh uh they're
  • 00:51:28
    exactly the same maybe a little bit less
  • 00:51:30
    but they get more out of it they are
  • 00:51:31
    much more disciplined as the the tiger
  • 00:51:33
    mom book uh indicated raising uh uh
  • 00:51:37
    raising an Asian kid is a lot about
  • 00:51:39
    discipline and uh instilling
  • 00:51:41
    self-control and so they they tend to
  • 00:51:42
    breed
  • 00:51:44
    overachievers so uh uh they're way over
  • 00:51:46
    represented among IV League students and
  • 00:51:49
    high school valedictorians and the same
  • 00:51:52
    um one of the research studies I read
  • 00:51:54
    looked at sort of how smart you have to
  • 00:51:55
    be to become a physician or a lawyer or
  • 00:51:57
    one of these professional fields and the
  • 00:52:00
    threshold is lower for Asians which
  • 00:52:02
    means uh you know to be white you you
  • 00:52:06
    pretty much have to have an IQ of maybe
  • 00:52:07
    100 I forget the exact numbers but uh
  • 00:52:09
    maybe you have to be 112 or 113 before
  • 00:52:11
    you have a chance of being successful as
  • 00:52:13
    a physician uh but the Asians can do it
  • 00:52:15
    maybe at uh five or five or even 10
  • 00:52:19
    degrees lower depends on which study uh
  • 00:52:21
    so and they can be be successful at that
  • 00:52:23
    so discipline does seem to matter and
  • 00:52:25
    and yes I think in some ways I think
  • 00:52:27
    this is the most unfortunate Legacy of
  • 00:52:28
    the self-esteem movement because many
  • 00:52:30
    parents took it as well I want to
  • 00:52:32
    protect my kids self-esteem so I should
  • 00:52:33
    never criticize never set rules uh and
  • 00:52:37
    so forth and in that's not even a good
  • 00:52:38
    strategy for self-esteem uh kids
  • 00:52:41
    actually have better self-esteem if
  • 00:52:42
    there are clear rules and they live up
  • 00:52:44
    to them and they're punished when they
  • 00:52:46
    fall short and they're rewarded when
  • 00:52:48
    they uh surpass them so I think that's
  • 00:52:51
    unfortunate because self-control really
  • 00:52:53
    does a lot more for your child and for
  • 00:52:55
    society life than than self-esteem which
  • 00:52:58
    just makes the kid conceited um so it's
  • 00:53:01
    unfortunate that the upbringing has gone
  • 00:53:03
    that direction uh but uh you know if you
  • 00:53:07
    if you just make if you have a child put
  • 00:53:10
    prom in your mind that this the goal
  • 00:53:12
    should be to raise the child with good
  • 00:53:13
    self-control and even if it's just you
  • 00:53:15
    know your focus you can already make
  • 00:53:17
    priority for that and say oh I know you
  • 00:53:19
    didn't get what you wanted but you you
  • 00:53:21
    didn't throw a tantrum you showed good
  • 00:53:23
    restraint there and I'm very proud of
  • 00:53:24
    you for doing that so you're single out
  • 00:53:26
    praise when the kid shows good
  • 00:53:28
    self-control uh and and don't tolerate
  • 00:53:30
    the lack of self-control you see so many
  • 00:53:31
    cases you know at the shopping mall
  • 00:53:33
    where they go in and the kid says I want
  • 00:53:35
    to go to the toy store and the parents
  • 00:53:36
    says no no we got to do this they scream
  • 00:53:39
    and and finally the kid grabs hold of
  • 00:53:41
    the door and hangs on and screams the
  • 00:53:43
    parent says okay we'll go to the toy
  • 00:53:45
    store and you know what do you train the
  • 00:53:47
    kid there is that that losing all
  • 00:53:49
    control is what is the way to get your
  • 00:53:50
    way and that's the exact opposite of uh
  • 00:53:53
    what you want to do uh the the Asian
  • 00:53:55
    parents they they say Well when uh I'm
  • 00:53:59
    going to the child wants something I'll
  • 00:54:01
    say well you can have that next week if
  • 00:54:03
    you do good on something else in between
  • 00:54:05
    so the reward has to be earned and then
  • 00:54:07
    you have to make sure to give the reward
  • 00:54:09
    but that way you learn to delay
  • 00:54:10
    gratification work toward rewards and
  • 00:54:12
    control yourself and behave yourself at
  • 00:54:14
    the time that's that's that's really uh
  • 00:54:15
    beneficial in the long run okay and one
  • 00:54:17
    more up front then we'll move to the
  • 00:54:21
    back that kind of feeds into my question
  • 00:54:24
    have you studied the correlation between
  • 00:54:26
    between
  • 00:54:27
    willpower and goal directedness
  • 00:54:30
    particularly people who frequently set
  • 00:54:34
    um both short-term and long-term goals
  • 00:54:37
    and if there's a positive correlation as
  • 00:54:39
    I think there would be does it
  • 00:54:43
    um do those people have more delayed
  • 00:54:48
    fatigue you know longer time periods
  • 00:54:50
    before they are fatigued in
  • 00:54:51
    decisionmaking if they're more goal
  • 00:54:54
    directed uh those are both good
  • 00:54:55
    questions and I've not dis uh not
  • 00:54:59
    studied those specifically uh that those
  • 00:55:01
    would be worth doing um I'm trying to
  • 00:55:03
    think if there's anything else that
  • 00:55:05
    anyone else has done um in general
  • 00:55:08
    people with self-control are more
  • 00:55:09
    successful so uh you know setting goals
  • 00:55:11
    and and pursuing them is a big part of
  • 00:55:14
    that
  • 00:55:16
    um and you effective self-control you
  • 00:55:19
    got to work on having the long-term and
  • 00:55:21
    the short-term goals you know not not
  • 00:55:23
    too restraining but uh managing them
  • 00:55:25
    effectively otherwise you just sort of
  • 00:55:27
    blunder uh blunder through life uh
  • 00:55:30
    um so
  • 00:55:34
    um uh I'm not sure what else to say
  • 00:55:36
    about that uh you know self-control does
  • 00:55:38
    help people uh achieve better at these
  • 00:55:41
    things oh yeah the other part of your
  • 00:55:42
    question was then do people uh get
  • 00:55:44
    strengthened by this and um that has not
  • 00:55:47
    been specifically studied I'm pretty
  • 00:55:49
    sure but uh that would follow from
  • 00:55:51
    everything we would say that uh uh well
  • 00:55:53
    you would you would get stronger at that
  • 00:55:55
    if you pursue goals you set goals and uh
  • 00:55:58
    and follow them that kind of again the
  • 00:56:00
    exercise in changing your responses to
  • 00:56:02
    make yourself conform to the rules to
  • 00:56:04
    follow through uh keep your promises
  • 00:56:06
    pursue your goals things like that all
  • 00:56:08
    those things are are good the old
  • 00:56:10
    Victorian phrase of building character
  • 00:56:12
    uh is not entirely wrong there's there's
  • 00:56:15
    something to it I mean think of it as
  • 00:56:16
    character may not be the term we'd use
  • 00:56:18
    now uh but it does make you stronger as
  • 00:56:20
    a human being and give you more
  • 00:56:21
    self-control to uh to pursue other
  • 00:56:23
    things and and the the the Improvement
  • 00:56:25
    in self-control really comes as
  • 00:56:26
    resistance to
  • 00:56:28
    depletion we have time for one more
  • 00:56:31
    question um okay man in the back has a
  • 00:56:35
    waving uh thanks for taking my question
  • 00:56:38
    um your your comment earlier about
  • 00:56:40
    practicing selfcontrol brought to mind
  • 00:56:43
    fasting and I'm wondering if you can
  • 00:56:45
    tell by looking at my frame that I don't
  • 00:56:47
    practice fasting but I'm wondering if
  • 00:56:50
    you've looked into whether people who do
  • 00:56:51
    practice fasting have better
  • 00:56:53
    self-control
  • 00:56:56
    um well I can answer that very briefly
  • 00:56:59
    no um the uh but but you're right I mean
  • 00:57:03
    the Paradox with fasting and dieting and
  • 00:57:05
    so on and why self-control doesn't work
  • 00:57:06
    as well is because you're depriving
  • 00:57:07
    yourself of glucose so you have less
  • 00:57:10
    available uh in the system so you it's
  • 00:57:14
    call the The Catch 22 or whatever of of
  • 00:57:16
    dieting that to have willpower you need
  • 00:57:19
    willpower to resist food but to eat you
  • 00:57:21
    need you need willpower you need to eat
  • 00:57:23
    to have willpower um I could say also in
  • 00:57:27
    connection with it there is a pretty
  • 00:57:28
    good body of work that religious people
  • 00:57:32
    um have better self-control and I say
  • 00:57:34
    I'm not political I'm not religious
  • 00:57:35
    either uh but do respect both Endeavors
  • 00:57:39
    uh and the strong evidence uh I think
  • 00:57:43
    they started with finding that religious
  • 00:57:44
    people lived longer than other people
  • 00:57:46
    the researchers noticed that and
  • 00:57:48
    wondered why and you know some religious
  • 00:57:49
    people want to say well it's because of
  • 00:57:50
    God you know he's making us live longer
  • 00:57:52
    but that's not really a scientifically
  • 00:57:54
    satisfactory explanation so what they
  • 00:57:56
    came around to is that people have good
  • 00:57:59
    self-control live longer and religion
  • 00:58:00
    supports self-control so highly
  • 00:58:03
    religious people are less likely to
  • 00:58:05
    drink a lot and smoke cigarettes and uh
  • 00:58:07
    engage in other dangerous
  • 00:58:10
    activities so uh it's uh it's clear that
  • 00:58:13
    religious people and no one no one
  • 00:58:15
    religion indeed religious people
  • 00:58:17
    generally whatever religion seem to have
  • 00:58:19
    better self-control there are multiple
  • 00:58:21
    theories about why that is true and we
  • 00:58:23
    don't really know which of them they all
  • 00:58:25
    could be be true for all we know there's
  • 00:58:27
    the being in a community of other people
  • 00:58:30
    where you uh you are uh
  • 00:58:33
    um you know will'll watch out for you
  • 00:58:35
    and kind of intervene if you're doing
  • 00:58:37
    badly uh there's the building the
  • 00:58:38
    strength by exercise the discipline of
  • 00:58:41
    praying of meditating of going to church
  • 00:58:43
    that could strengthen you uh there's the
  • 00:58:45
    sense that God is always watching you so
  • 00:58:47
    you you better not sin uh because even
  • 00:58:50
    if you think no person will catch you uh
  • 00:58:52
    that the Divine allseeing eye will uh
  • 00:58:55
    will note that
  • 00:58:56
    all those could contribute to the the
  • 00:58:58
    greater self-control um so fasting is
  • 00:59:01
    certainly a religious ritual done in in
  • 00:59:04
    some contexts and uh take self-control
  • 00:59:07
    but yes doing it would be another
  • 00:59:08
    exercise that uh be difficult at the
  • 00:59:11
    time but doing those things periodically
  • 00:59:13
    would indeed uh continue to strengthen
  • 00:59:15
    the
  • 00:59:16
    muscle let's thank our speaker
Tags
  • self-control
  • self-esteem
  • willpower
  • decision-making
  • ego depletion
  • glucose
  • psychology
  • behavioral outcomes
  • self-regulation
  • moral behavior