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for kak clutter this one is
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1329 that is 1,
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329th episode and I think it's probably
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the first time that one story has
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featured in all five episodes across a
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week now there's a lot happening in
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India elections are coming up parties
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are declaring their candidates election
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commission has announced the dates for
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State elections which are coming up now
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so it's not as as if we don't have the
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choice of other news but the Israel
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Palestine Middle East story is so big it
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is dominating not just the global news
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cycle but also the Indian news cycle
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it's also very important and that's why
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we have stuck with this story it's also
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a story of which on which we don't see
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that much coverage in Indian media and
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frankly truth to tell if you see a lot
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that comes up on our TV that's really
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that's really still entertainment being
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passed on as as live reporting so there
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is there is some degree of need and some
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some degree of hunger in fact a great
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degree of hunger for better information
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and understanding from Facts because
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when it comes to clutter this is among
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the most cluttered regions in the world
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that said what is it that we are talking
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about today today we are looking at the
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key organizations you can call them key
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extremist organizations some of those
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are described and listed by many by many
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Global Powers as terrorist
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organizations many are supported by
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other countries in fact most are
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supported by other countries who do not
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consider them to be terrorist
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organizations but freedom fighting
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organizations nevertheless these
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organizations feature in the larger
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Israel Middle East story so I will just
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go over each one of these sort of not in
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a particular order of listing I will
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just tell you which ones are these Hamas
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which is currently news Big Time what is
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Hamas who are the leaders fat as part of
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fat we also have linked to Fat we also
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have Palestinian Authority and
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Palestinian Liberation
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Organization then there is hisbah the
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Shiite party the Shiite group and
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Palestinian Islamic Jihad so we go over
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these in little bit of detail for our
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better understanding which is the spirit
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of K clutter and I will share some
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articles with you some links with you
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which you can read if you want to if you
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want to understand these better in
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Greater detail or maybe if you are
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preparing for the upsc or something
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right now I'm giving you a gist as per
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my understanding so first of all first
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of all what do these organizations what
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kind of a cocktail have they now tossed
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up in this region so I quote from Paul
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salm who's president and CEO of Middle
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Eastern Institute who says that other
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countries like Syria and Lebanon those
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countries need watching because this war
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can spill over into those countries from
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Israel from Israel and the Palestinian
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regions that is that is the Hamas area
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Gaza maybe the West Bank something or
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the other goes on there all the time but
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those are chutput incidents leading to
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loss of life but maybe it can also spill
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over into other Sovereign countries the
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in the neighborhood namely Syria and
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Jordan then he says and I quote from him
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strategically hezbollah's function is to
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remain as a deterrent for Iran to
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dissuade Israel or the US from carrying
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out any direct action against Iran so
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for Iran the hisbah and the power it
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wields and the strength it has in
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Lebanon next to the borders of Northern
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borders of Israel their presence is
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needed there so that if the Americans or
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the Israelis want to take any direct
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action against Iran they can retaliate
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right there they can build up pressure
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right there and hisbah is a very strong
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organization we'll talk about this
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and then he goes on to say they don't
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Iranians don't want the deterrent wasted
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right so they don't want the deterrent
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wasted means they don't want his buah to
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get involved in the fighting right now
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Israel also does not want a second front
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opened he says that is Paul selum
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president and CEO of midle Middle
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Eastern
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Institute then the fact is that from all
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the reading that you can get on the
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Middle East you will know and it's very
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simple because numbers are there that
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hisbah actually is a much stronger and
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much bigger organization than Hamas it's
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also much better armed it's in another
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country it controls almost the entire
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South Lebanon Lebanon is a poorly
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governed country with a very divided
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government so it controls it has a
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territory of its own and is sovereign
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country it also has a connection to its
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Patron Iran in fact it's a land
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connection because Iran can bring
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armaments and ammunition into Syria
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truck it bring it in conf voice across
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Syria into the Lebanese territory
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controlled by hisbah so hisbah is much
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much stronger than Hamas because I heard
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fared Zakaria say in an interview that
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if Hamas fired 5,000 rockets at Israel
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hisbah has 150,000 Rockets because they
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have a lot more they have direct access
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to Iranian supplies now 5,000 Rockets
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fired so quickly nearly overwhelmed the
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Iron Dome system because many broke
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through and caused damage what will
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happen if hisbah also starts firing its
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own Arsenal and if they do it as Hamas
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is also doing it that will be very tough
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even for the Israeli military that's why
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the Israelis don't want to fight hisbah
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now they don't don't want to open that
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second front and I have also explained
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to you why it may not be in Iran's
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interest right now to get hisbah
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involved because hasbullah is their
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hedge hisbah is their deterrent against
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a direct American or Israeli action
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against their Mainland now what is
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hisbah hisbah that's the one we'll talk
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about first hisbah is a Shiite purely
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Shiite organization unlike Kamas which
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is Sunni hisbah is a Shiite organization
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it's fully backed by
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Iran and also has also has support from
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other Shiite militias and countries the
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huis for example in Yemen or some other
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yemenis militias some Iraqi militias it
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has some support from there but
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basically patronized by Iran see watch
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their reaction to Hamas attacks they've
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described Hamas attacks and I quote from
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their statement and I quote decisive
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response to Israel's continued
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occupation and message to those seeking
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normalization that's very important
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because who seeking normalization that
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they have a problem with the country
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seeking country seeking normalization
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are countries of the Arabian Peninsula
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that is the gulf Gulf Arab countries UAE
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has already normalized bahin has already
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normalized Morocco Sudan Etc also are in
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on the picture but the big the big daddy
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there is Saudi Arabia Israel and Saudi
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Arabia have been very close to signing a
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deal and that's got who upset that's got
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the Iranians very impatient and that's
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why you can see in the hisbah statement
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that concern expressed now will they get
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involved in the fighting in Israel we
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don't know for sure but I can quote the
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Lebanese foreign minister that is
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Abdullah abib who says that he's been
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told on good authority by the hisbah
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leaders that they have no intention of
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getting involved in the fighting right
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now so what is hisbah hisbah was formed
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in 1985 you can say 1982 there were some
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signs of it or some incipient
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organization came in but basically in
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1985 it came into being in 1985 it's
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today led by it Secretary General Hassan
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nasah it also has a it has a military
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Wing or a paramilitary Wing as they call
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it which is called a Jihad Council it
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also has a political Wing in the
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Lebanese Parliament so in Lebanese
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politics it's a legit political party
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that's the important thing to understand
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for us and that's why we say the Middle
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East is so complicated and so cluttered
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so what is it that the top leader of
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hasbullah Hassan nasah said so nasah
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said in his statement that the Hamas
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attack sends a message to the Arab and
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Islamic world and the International
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Community as a whole that the
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Palestinian cause is an everlasting One
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Alive until Victory and Liberation again
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again according to senior members of
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Hamas and hisbah said said a Wall Street
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Journal report Iran helped plan and
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execute their attack on Israel now Wall
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Street Journal also claims that Islamic
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revolutionary guard code that is irgc
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officers had been working closely with
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Hamas since August on a plan to breach
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is isra's borders Iranians however deny
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it and we've seen reports that suggest
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that Israeli intelligence says pretty
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much what the Wall Street Journal story
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said maybe they are the source but the
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American intelligence so far says that
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they don't have a confirmation they
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cannot say for sure that Iranians
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directed these operations now hisbah
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itself denies that it operates from
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Israeli soil they say we operate from
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where we are but Israel has blamed Iran
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it has blamed Iran and Israelis have
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said and I quote we know that there were
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meetings in Syria and and in Lebanon
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that is where Hezbollah is located we
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know that there were meetings in Syria
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and in Lebanon with other leaders of the
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terror armies that surround Israel so
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obviously it's easy to understand that
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they tried to coordinate the proxies of
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Iran in our region they tried to be
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coordinated as much as possible with
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Iran this was said by Israel's
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ambassador to the UN gilad eron last
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Sunday so that is the story of hisbah
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someday in fact we might end up doing an
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entire episode on hisbah now see the
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organization in news Hamas we've talked
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about Hamas in the past in detail in
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fact we featured Hamas in a full episode
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of kutak clutter I re-shared it last
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week last Sunday I will again share a
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link with you you can check it out so I
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will talk briefly about Hamas Hamas was
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founded about 30 40 years ago by shik
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Ahmed Yasin he was a Palestinian cleric
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who then became became a cleric in
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Muslim Brotherhood so Hamas is linked to
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this multinational or pan Islamic Nation
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political group or party called Muslim
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Brotherhood which is very rightwing very
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conservative wants Islamic rule that's
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the party that came into power in Egypt
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after Arab Spring and then the Army in
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in Egypt did not like it because they
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did not want that kind of islamization
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and that's how they got rid of it and
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once again installed a military dictator
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or near dictator in power now what does
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Hamas stand for from where does the word
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Hamas come this is this
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is islamia or Islamic resistance
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movement Hamas is confined to Gaza it's
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confined to Gaza in 2007 it had expelled
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the fat Group which is the Palestinian
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group from the West Bank their unit in
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Gaza was expelled by Hamas after Hamas
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won the local election since then they
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are the rulers they are the dictators of
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Gaza they are the ones right right now
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who've launched this war on Israel this
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is also a competitive War because they
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want to show the Palestinians and the
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Islamic World while the F group or the
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larger PLO Group which we'll talk about
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in a minute while they've been willing
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to make peace with Israel it is Hamas
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that in fact is committed to an enduring
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and permanent war on Israel now linked
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to Fat to the extent that they are in
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the same geography in the same Gaza area
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is also an organization called
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Palestinian Islamic Jihad we'll show you
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the logos of these organizations
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wherever available Palestinian Islamic
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Jihad or P this is a Sunni islamist
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group this is the second largest
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Palestinian Islamic buletin group that's
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active in Gaza like Hamas it does not
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recognize Israel believed in armed
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waging armed war on Israel it has
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received support from Iran and Syria and
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also Lebanese hisbah but when I say
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Lebanese hasbullah that is is another
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name for Iran where they differ from
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Hamas is that Hamas fought elections to
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form a government in Gaza PJ does not
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believe in forming any government P also
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like Hamas refuses a two-state solution
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they want a one-state solution if
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netanyahu's one state solution is that
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only Israel should exist P's and hamas's
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one state solution is that only the
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Palestinian State Should exist so Israel
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should disappear it also has an armed
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Wing P has an armed wing which is called
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Al's brigades these were formed in 1992
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this organization is heavily influenced
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by Iranian Revolution aluts as you might
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know by now is the name of the Muslim
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holy places in East Jerusalem sometimes
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but not always PJ Works in conjunction
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in coordination with Hamas it maintains
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offices in Syria and no surprises tan it
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was designated as a foreign terrorist
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organization by the us as far back as as
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in 1997 its leader is zad Al nakala who
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himself was declared a specially
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designated Global terrorist in 2014 but
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with Hamas they are like a younger
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sibling Hamas is the dominant force in
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Gaza now look at some of the other
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organizations and these three in a way
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are linked that is fate Palestinian
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Liberation Organization PLO and also and
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also Palestinian authori so Palestinian
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Liberation Organization now is like a
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confederated entity in which many groups
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participate the largest of these groups
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is the fat party so what is PLO today PL
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is an umbrella organization includes
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multiple parties as I just explained to
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you it also represents Palestine in the
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United Nations it also has some kind of
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an armed Force PLA in this case
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Palestinian Liberation Army don't
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confuse it with Chinese
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pla it is like a like a military branch
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of the pl but right now not that active
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not carrying out a lot of military
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activity now fat is its largest
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constituent from where does that name
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fat come so fat is the reverse acronym
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for Arabic translation so the Arabic
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name
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Isani this is translated in English as
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Palestinian National Liberation movement
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now fat fat is the Reversed acronym of
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the Arabic name as we know Arabic is
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written from right to the left so that
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is the fat party fat party was founded
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in 1959 by Palestinian diaspora
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activists because Palestinians had been
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scattered all over the place these
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activists included late yaser Arafat and
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the current president of Palestinian
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Authority that's mmud Abbas this was
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after the 1948 catastrophe or nakba as
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it's called in the local Traditions
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initially these initially the group
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opposed Israel used gorilla Warfare But
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ultimately renounced terrorism a lot of
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the movies that you see set in the' 70s
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60s maybe some in the 80s also the
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fighters the Arab Fighters Palestinian
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Fighters they feature are fighters from
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plos so they were called a terrorist
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organization now in 1988 after the
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statement from Yasir Arafat this
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organization like PLO recognizes Israel
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it recognizes Israel but wants wants the
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borders of pre
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1967 Israel restored in 1967 war it is
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that in six in the sixth day war Israel
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defeated three Arab armies three larger
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Arab armies that is Egypt Syria and
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Jordan and gain territory which was four
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times its original size this party
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recognizes Israel but wants Israel to be
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reduced to where it was before The Six
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Day War in 1967 that we know is not
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going to happen but these negotiations
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go on this party also this party the PLO
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the whole lot signed a whole bunch of
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Accords with the Israelis in 1990s early
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1990s called Oslo Accords in Norway in
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Oslo Accords there was proposal of a
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two-state solution and that's why they
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recognized Israel that is something that
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Netanyahu and his government have now
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gone back on fate as part of PL now
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rules the West Bank and the government
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is headquartered at ramala and finally
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again this is not a party that's a
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combatant but that's a party which is
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Central to what's happening in the
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Middle East which is Central to what's
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happening between Israel and the
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Palestinians because they have the most
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support the votes The credibility that's
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the Palestinian Authority Palestinian
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Authority came into being in 1994 after
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secret negotiations between PLO and the
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Israeli government in Norway in 1993 I
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told you that's when the Oslo Accords
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were signed in Norway in 19 1996 Arafat
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Yasir Arafat of the fat party was
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elected president of Palestinian
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Authority he was succeeded by mmud Abbas
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who as we told you just now was a
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co-founder with him of of fat in 1959 so
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a Palestinian Authority was set up as a
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kind of provisional government until
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until Palestine got a full State
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autonomous Sovereign status that hasn't
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happened and impression is grown that
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remain too much much too much under
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Israeli influence and that is something
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that Hamas has done nothing to
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discourage because Hamas wants to Hamas
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would have thought even before they
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launched these attacks these spectacular
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attacks that these will burnish their
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credentials to be the only true leaders
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of the Palestinians so that is where the
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tussle is I thought it's very very I
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thought it's very interesting and very
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important that we talk about these
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organizations who are Central to what's
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happening and before I let you go let me
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also give credit where it's due very
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often you ask me who's your research
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team who researches for you so there are
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there are my colleagues in my office who
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every now and then pitch in and help now
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for a lot of our geopolitical episodes
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the person who deserves credit most of
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all is a young person in fact a school
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student in Seattle shria Shanker through
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this week and also going back some more
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time for our geopolitical episodes shria
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is a person I need to
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