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>> I WANT YOU TO GET EXCITED
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>> I WANT YOU TO GET EXCITED
BECAUSE WE ARE STILL TALKING
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BECAUSE WE ARE STILL T TALKING
MONEY. POWER POLITICS.
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MONEY. POWER POLITICS.
AUTOMAKEKERS FORD AND HYUNDAI SW
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AUTOMAKERS FORD AND HYUNDAI SAW
THEIR SALES GO UP IN MAY ON
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THEIR SALES GO UP IN MAY ON
STRONG SUV AND TRUCK DEMAND. BUT
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STRONG SUV AND TRUCK DEMAND. BUT
TARIFFS, THEY ARE STILL LOOMING
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TARIFFS, THEY ARE STILL LOOMING
OVER THE INDUSTRY. AND BARRON'S
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OVER THE INDUSTRY. AND BARRON'S
IS REPORTING THAT DESPITE STRONG
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IS REPORTING THAT DESPITE STRONG
SALES, THE PAIN IS COMING. I
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SALES, THE PAIN IS COMING. I
WANT TO BRING IN MY ALL TIME
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WANT TO BRING IN MY ALL TIME
FAVORITE AUTO EXPERT MY DEAR
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FAVORITE AUTO EXPERT MY DEAR
FRIEND MATT MILLER, ANCHOR FOR
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FRIEND MATT MILLER, ANCHOR FOR
BLOOMBERG TV'S OPEN INTEREST. HE
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BLOOMBERG TV'S OPEN INTEREST. HE
COVERS THE AUTO INDUSTRY BETTER
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COVERS THE AUTO INDUSTRY BETTER
THAN ANYONE I KNOW, AND HE'S
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THAN ANYONE I KNOW, AND HE'S
CO-HOST OF THE HOT PURSUIT
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CO-HOST OF THE HOT PURSUIT
PODCAST. IT IS FANTASTIC TO SEE
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PODCAST. IT IS FANTASTIC TO SEE
YOU. TELL US, WHAT IS THE STATE
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YOU. TELL US, WHAT IS THE STATE
OF T THE AUTO INDUSTRY RIGHT NO?
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OF THE AUTO INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW?
>> YOU KNOW.
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>> YOU KNOW.
>> THE I INTERESTING THING IS
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>> THE INTERESTING THING IS
THEY.
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THTHEY.
>> HAVE TWO FORCES AT PLAY HERE.
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>> HAVE TWO FORCES AT PLAY HERE.
ONE IS THE TARIFFS.
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ONE IS THE TARIFFS.
>> ARE PUSHING.
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>> ARE PUSHING.
>> PEOPLE TO BUY.
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>> PEOPLE TO BUY.
>> CARS NOW RATHER THAN YOU
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>> CARS NOW RATHER THAN YOU
KNOW. THEY'RE WORRIED THAT
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KNOW. THEY'RE WORRIED THAT
PRICES WILL GO UP LALATER. SO
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PRICES WILL GO UP LATER. SO
THEY'RE.
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THEY'RE.
>>>> PULLING DEMAND FORWARD. AND
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>> PULLING DEMAND FORWRWARD. AND
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THESE GREAT
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THAT'S WHY Y YOU SEE THESE GREAT
NUMBERS RIGHT. FORD SALES UP.
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NUMBERERS RIGHT. FORD SALES UP.
>> 16 ALMOST 17%.
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>> 16 ALMOST 17%.
>> ON THE OTOTHER HAND. THERE AE
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>> ON THE OTHER HAND. THERE AREE
A LOT OF AUTOMAKERS THAT ARE IN
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A LOT OF AUTOMAKERS THAT ARE IN
SERIOUS. TROUBLE ALSO BECAUSE OF
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SERIOUS. TROUBLE ALSO BECAUSE OF
THESE TATARIFFS. STELLANTIS,
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THESE TARIFFS. STELLANTIS,
NISSAN. AND THEY HAVE.
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NISSAN. AND THEY HAVE.
>> TO DISCSCOUNT RIGHT. THEY HA.
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>> TO DISCOUNT RIGHT. THEY HAVE.
>> CARS SITTING ON.
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>> CARS SITTING ON.
>> LOTS FOR.
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>> LOTS FOR.
>> 90 DAYS F FOR.
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>> 90 DAYS FOR.
>>>> 100 DAYS.
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>> 1 100 DAYS.
>> AT RAM. 107 DAYS OF
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>> AT RAM. 107 DAYS OF
INVENTORY.
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INVENTORY.
>> AND SO THAT. IS PUSHINGNG.
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>> AND SO THAT. IS PUSHING.
PRICES DOWN. AND SO FORD, FOR
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PRICES DOWN. AND SO FORD, FOR
EXAMPLE.
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EXAMPLE.
>> OR GM, THEY.
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>> OR GM, THEY.
>> THEY RAISE PRICES BECAUAUSE.
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>> THEY RAISE PRICES BECAUSE.
>> THEY CAN. WRITE A LOT OF
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>> THEY CAN. WRITE A LOT OF
DEMAND, BUT.
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DEMAND, BUT.
>> THEN THEY HAVE TO LOWER TO.
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>> THEN THEY HAVE TO LOWOWER TO.
>> COMPETE AGAINST.
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>> COMPETE AGAINST.
>> THESE OTHER AUTOMAKAKERS. AND
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>> THESE O OTHER AUTOMAKERS. AND
IT'S CAUSING A LITTLE BIT OF A
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MUDDLE.
>> WHAT ARARE THE STEEL TARIFFS
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>> WHAT ARE THE STEEL TARIFFS
GOING TO DO. THE AUTO INDUSTRY.
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GOING TO DO. THE AUTO INDUSTRY.
>> I WAS LOOKING IT UP BEFORE I
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>> I WAS LOOKING IT UP BEFORE I
CAME ON THE PROGRAM. SO STEEL
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CAME ON THE PROGRAM. SO STEEL
REPRESENTS ABOUT 2,800.
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REPRESENTS ABOUT 2,800.
>> POUNDS.
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>>>> POUNDS.
>> OF EACH CAR. IT'S OVER
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>> OF EACH CAR. IT'S OVER
$1,000, ALMOST $2,000 OF COST
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$1,000, ALMOST $2,000 OF COST
FOR EACH CAR. AND IT'S GETTING
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FOR EACH CAR. AND IT'S GETTING
BACK TO RECORD PRICES BECAUSE OF
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BACK TO RECORD PRICES BECAUSE OF
THESE TARIFFS. SO ALMOST $1,000
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THESE TARIFFS. SO ALMOST $1,000
FOR A TON OF HOT.
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FOR A TON OF HOT.
>> ROLLED STEEL.
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>> ROLLED STEEL.
>> SO IT'S GOING.
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>> TO PUSH.
>> THOSE PRICES HIGHER.
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>> THOSE PRICES HIGHER.
>> OBVIOUSLY REUTERS IS
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>> OBVIOUSLY REUTERS IS
REPORTING THAT GLOBAL AUTO
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REPORTING THAT GLOBAL AUTO
EXECUTIVES ARE SOUNDING THE
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EXECUTIVES ARE SOUNDING THE
ALARM OVER SOMOMETHING. MOST OFS
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ALARM OVER SOMETHING. MOST OF US
KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. AN IMPMPENDG
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KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. AN IMPENDING
SHORTAGE OF RARE EARTH MAGNETS
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SHORTAGE OF RARE EARTH MAGNETS
THAT COME FROM CHINA. IT COULD
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THAT COME FROM CHINA. IT COULD
FORCE THE CLOSURE OF CAR
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FORCE THE CLOSURE OF CAR
FACTORIES, THEY SAY, WITHIN
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FACTORIES, THEY SAY, WITHIN
WEEKS. WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THIS?
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WEEKS. WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THIS?
>> WELL, IT COULD AND HAS. F FOD
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>> WELL, IT COULD AND HAS. FORD
HAS ALREADY HAD TO HALT
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HAS ALREADY HAD TO HALT
PRODUCTION AT A CHICAGO FACILILY
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PRODUCTION AT A CHICAGO FACILITY
BECAUSE OF A SHORTAGE OF THESE
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BECAUSE OF A SHORTAGE OF THESE
RARE EARTH MAGNETS. THEY'RE USED
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RARE EARTH MAGNETS. THEY'RE USED
IN EVERYTHING FROM WINDSHIELD
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IN EVERYTHING FROM WINDSHIELD
WIPER MOTORS TO ANTI-LOCK
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WIPER MOTORS TO ANTI-LOCK
BRAKING SYSTEMS. AND AUTOMAKERS
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BRAKING SYSTEMS. AND AUTOMAKERS
ARE SCRAMBLING TO TRY AND GET A
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ARE SCRAMBLING TO TRY AND GET A
HOLD OF MORE OF THIS STUFF
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HOLD OF MORE OF THIS STUFF
BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO FACE
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BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO FACE
SHORTAGES, ESPECIALLY IF THIS US
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SHORTAGES, ESPECIALLY IF THIS US
CHINA TRADE WAR HEATS UP.
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CHINA TRADE WAR HEATS UP.
>> BUT SOME THINGS SURPRISEDED .
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>> BUT SOME THINGS SURPRISED ME.
GM CEO MARY BARRA ACTUALLYLY HAD
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GM CEO MARY BARRA ACTUALLY HAD
SOMETHING KIND OF POSITIVE TO
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SOMETHING KIND OF POSITIVE TO
SAY ABOUT THE TARIFFS, WHERE SHE
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SAY ABOUT THE TARIFFS, WHERE SHE
SAID THEY CAN POTENTIALLY HELP
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SAID THEY CAN POTENTIALLY HELP
LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD WITH
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LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD WITH
FOREIGN COMPETITORORS.
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FOREIGN COMPETITORS.
>> YEAH, WELL, LOOK, YOU HAVE TO
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>> YEAH, WELL, LOOK, YOU HAVE TO
GIVE IT TO TRUMP THAT SOME
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GIVE IT TO TRUMP THAT SOME
FOREIGN COMPETITORS, CHINA, FOR
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FOREIGN COMPETITORS, CHINA, FOR
EXAMPLE, HAVE REALLY SUBSIDIZED
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EXAMPLE, HAVE REALLY SUBSIDIZED
THEIR CAR INDUSTRY. CHINA'S
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THEIR CAR INDUSTRY. CHINA'S
POURED $230 BILLION INTO THEIR
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POURED $230 BILLION INTO THEIR
CAR INDUSTRY SINCE 2009. AND I
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CAR INDUSTRY SINCE 2009. AND I
GUESS WHAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO
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GUESS WHAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO
IS SOMETHING SIMILAR ON ON THE
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IS SOMETHING SIMILAR ON ON THE
TAX SIDE OF THINGS. RIGHT? HE
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TAX SIDE OF THINGS. RIGHT? HE
WANTS TO HE THINKS THAT TAXING
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WANTS TO HE THINKS THAT TAXING
US CONSUMERS TO BUY CARS IS
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US CONSUMERS TO BUY CARS IS
GOING TO SOMEHOW SLOW DOWN THE
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GOING TO SOMEHOW SLOW DOWN THE
CHINESE GROWTH. BUT IT'S NOT.
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CHINESE GROWTH. BUT IT'S NOT.
AND THE PROBLEM IS IT'T'S REALLY
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AND THE PROBLEM IS IT'S REALLY
PUSHING G US AUTOMAKERS BUSINESS
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PUSHING US AUTOMAKERS BUSINESS
BACK INTO THE US. I WAS LOOKING
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BACK INTO THE US. I WAS LOOKING
THIS MORNING, 2014, GM SOLD 10
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THIS MORNING, 2014, GM SOLD 10
MILLION CARS AROUND THE WORLD.
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MILLION CARS AROUND THE WORLD.
2024 THEY SOLD 4 MILLION CARS
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2024 THEY SOLD 4 MILLION CARS
AROUND THE WORLD. AND THE REASON
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AROUND THE WORLD. AND THE REASON
IS THEY HAVE JUST HAD TO PULL
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IS THEY HAVE JUST HAD TO PULL
OUT OF ALL OF THESE OTHER
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OUT OF ALL OF THESE OTHER
MARKETS AS BRANDS FROM CHINA
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MARKETS AS BRANDS FROM CHINA
LIKE BYD AND GEELY JUST T GROW
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LIKE BYD AND GEELY JUST GROW
AROUND THE WORLD, GETTING INTO
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AROUND THE WORLD, GETTING INTO
OTHER REGIONS IN ASIA, IN SOUTH
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OTHER REGIONS IN ASIA, IN SOUTH
AMERICA, IN EUROPE, THEY'VE
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AMERICA, IN EUROPE, THEY'VE
REALLY RETREATED. WE REALLY HAVE
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REALLY RETREATED. WE REALLY HAVE
RETREATED BACK TO A DOMESTIC
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RETREATED BACK TO A DOMESTIC
MARKET.
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MARKET.
>>>> SO IS THERE A CHANCE THAT
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>> SO IS THERE A CHANCE THAT
THESE TARIRIFFS COULD BE GOOD FR
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THESE TARIFFS COULD BE GOOD FOR
THE AUTOMAMAKERS?
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THE AUTOMAKERS?
>> I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT IF
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>> I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT IF
THEY WORKED THE WAY THE
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THEY WORKED THE WAY THE
PRESIDENT WANTS THEM TO, RIGHTH.
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PRESIDENT WANTS THEM TO, RIGHT.
IF THEY SOMEHOW STOPPED THE
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IF THEY SOMEHOW STOPPED THE
GROWTH OF THE CHINESE INDUSTRY,
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GROWTH OF THE CHINESE INDUSTRY,
OR IF THEY WERE A NEGOTIATING
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OR IF THEY WERE A NEGOTIATING
TOOL, IF THEY GOT CHINA TO STOP
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TOOL, IF THEY GOT CHINA TO STOP
SUBSIDIZING THEIR AUTO INDUSTRY
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SUBSIDIZING THEIR AUTO INDUSTRY
AND TO LOWER NON-TARIFF.
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AND TO LOWER NON-TARIFF.
>> BARRIERS, WHICH IS NOT GOING
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>> BARRIERS, WHICH IS NOT GOING
TO.
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TO.
>> HAPPEN, THEN THEY WOULD THEN