When a Genius Teen Snaps

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Summary

TLDRIn december 2016 vindt er een schietpartij plaats in de Brazil-familie. James Allan Brazelle doet een noodoproep nadat hij zijn stiefdochter, Ashley, gewond aantreft, neergeschoten door zijn stiefzoon Sunny. Sunny, een tiener met een uitzonderlijk hoog IQ, is emotieloos tijdens zijn verhoor en vertelt dat hij zich geen motivatie kan herinneren voor zijn daden. Zijn ouders beschrijven de gebeurtenis als onverwacht, zonder ruzies vooraf. Uit onderzoek blijkt dat Sunny mogelijk aan mentale stoornissen lijdt, zoals depersonalisatie. Ondanks dat verklaart hij schuldig te zijn wegens mentale ziekte en wordt hij veroordeeld tot levenslange gevangenisstraf met 30 jaar voorwaardelijk. Sunny reflecteert op zijn daden, geeft aan dat hij verontrust is dat zoiets weer zou kunnen gebeuren en benadrukt het belang van associatie met de omgeving voor mensen die aan dissociatie lijden. De zaak eindigt tragisch met de dood van Ashley en de opsluiting en diagnose van Sunny.

Takeaways

  • 🔫 Een schietpartij vond plaats in het huis van de Brazil-familie, gepleegd door Sunny.
  • 📞 James Allan Brazelle belde 911 nadat hij zijn stiefdochter Ashley gewond vond.
  • 🧠 Sunny vertoont emotieloos gedrag en symptomen van depersonalisatie.
  • 👪 De familie beschreef Sunny als normaal en liefdevol voor de aanval.
  • ⚖️ Sunny pleitte schuldig aan moord wegens mentale ziekte en werd veroordeeld tot levenslang.
  • 📈 Zijn uitzonderlijk hoge IQ stond in contrast met zijn acties.
  • 🤔 Sunny wist niet zeker waarom hij de daad pleegde en noemde impulsiviteit.
  • 💔 Ashley overleefde de aanval niet, ondanks reanimatiepogingen.
  • 🧩 Sunny werd gediagnosticeerd met Asperger en vergelijkbare stoornissen.
  • 🚔 Het verhoor vond plaats zonder ouderlijke aanwezigheid of toestemming.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    In de eerste fase van het transcript horen we een noodoproep, die zeer hectisch en emotioneel geladen is. De beller, James Allan Brazelle, beschrijft een schietpartij in zijn huis waarbij zijn stiefdochter Ashley en haar broer Sunny betrokken zijn. De oproep legt een gevoel van urgentie vast met de nadruk op het openen van de deur voor aankomende hulpdiensten.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    De tweede fase van het verhaal onthult de situatie kort voor de noodoproep. Allan Brazelle en zijn vrouw Nicole beschrijven een normale avond die tragisch eindigde. Allan herinnert zich verwarring over geluiden die hij aanvankelijk voor vuurwerk aanzag, maar al snel associeerde met geweerschoten. Het vermoeden dat zijn stiefzoon Sunny bij de gebeurtenis betrokken was, is een schokkende ontdekking voor hen. Sunny bleek een geweer te hebben, dat Allan hem wist af te nemen.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    In het derde deel leren we dat er kort na het voorval een conflict ontstond waarbij Ashley gewond raakte en Sunny opnieuw het geweer oppakte. Allan herinnert zich dat Sunny probeerde de clip van het geweer te verwisselen toen hij zich tot zijn stiefvader wendde met het geladen geweer, maar gelukkig was de clip onjuist geplaatst waardoor het wapen niet functioneerde.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    De volgende fase documenteert de aankomst van de politie die de chaos en de paniek in de nasleep van de schietpartij overneemt. Sunny wordt zonder incidenten gearresteerd en meegenomen voor verhoor terwijl de toestand van zijn zus Ashley onbekend blijft voor hem. Dit deel richt zich op de betrokkenheid van de politie en de situatie waarin Sunny de politie ontmoet, met een klinische, bijna stoïcijnse houding.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Het vijfde segment bespreekt Sunny's verhoor waarbij zijn gedrag en verbale reacties gedetailleerd worden geanalyseerd door een onderzoeksteam. Ondanks zijn jonge leeftijd lijkt hij zich manifest stoïcijns en afstandelijk te gedragen, wat zorgt voor verwarring over zijn emotionele staat. Zijn manier van spreken weerspiegelt een gebrek aan herkenbare emoties en empathie.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    De zesde sectie gaat dieper in op het verhoor van Sunny door de politie, die hem vragen stelt over de motivatie achter zijn acties. Sunny blijft emotieloos en kijkt met enige verwondering naar zijn eigen handelen, wat mogelijk indicatief is voor zijn mentale toestand. Zijn verklaringen onthullen een verontrustend gebrek aan duidelijke motivatie achter zijn gewelddadige daden.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    In fase zeven bespreken de onderzoekers en psychologen Sunny's gedrag en proberen ze een psychologisch profiel op te stellen. Er wordt gesuggereerd dat er sprake kan zijn van psychologische stoornissen zoals depersonalisatiestoornis of een psychotische episode, hoewel er geen definitieve diagnose wordt bevestigd. Sunny's ouders uiten hun onvoorwaardelijke steun voor hem ondanks de situatie.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    De achtste fase verschuift de focus naar de juridische implicaties van Sunny's arrestatie en verhoor. Problemen rond de wettigheid van zijn verhoor zonder aanwezigheid van ouders en de vraag naar zijn mentale bekwaamheid worden besproken. De autoriteiten besluiten uiteindelijk om de videobewijsstukken van zijn verhoor op te nemen in de rechtszaak.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    In de voorlaatste sectie krijgen we inzicht in de gevolgen van het voorval voor Sunny's familie, met name de ouders die proberen samen verder te leven na het verlies van hun dochter. Sunny's ouders bespreken hun verdriet en de noodzaak om hun zoon te blijven steunen ondanks de vreselijke tragedie die hun gezin heeft getroffen.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:34

    Het laatste segment biedt een intiem portret van Sunny in detentie, waar hij reflecteert op de gebeurtenissen en zijn huidige toestand. Hij toont enig besef van de ernst van zijn daden en de gevolgen ervan. Desondanks blijft hij stoïcijns en lijkt hij niet volledig in staat het gebeurde emotioneel te verwerken, wat gedeeltelijk te wijten kan zijn aan zijn mentale gesteldheid.

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Faqs

  • Wie maakte de noodoproep in de video?

    James Allan Brazelle was degene die de noodoproep deed.

  • Wat gebeurde er tijdens de noodoproep?

    James Allan Brazelle maakte melding van een schietpartij waarbij zijn stiefdochter, Ashley, gewond raakte. Zijn stiefzoon Sunny had het vuur geopend.

  • Wie is Sunny en hoe gedroeg hij zich tijdens het verhoor?

    Sunny is de zestienjarige verdachte, hij gedroeg zich emotieloos en stoïcijns tijdens het verhoor.

  • Wat is Sunny's intelligentieniveau?

    Sunny heeft een IQ van 155 tot 160, beschreven als hoog tot uitzonderlijk intelligent.

  • Welke mentale problemen had Sunny?

    Sunny werd mogelijk getroffen door een psychotische episode en vertoont symptomen van depersonalisatie.

  • Wat zegt Sunny over zijn motivatie voor de aanval?

    Sunny gaf geen duidelijke motivatie voor zijn aanval en zei dat hij zich niet bewust was van zijn eigen drijfveren.

  • Hoe reageerde Sunny op zijn arrestatie?

    Sunny reageerde ontspannen en gaf stoïcijns toe aan de aanklachten tegen hem.

  • Wat was het resultaat van Sunny's proces?

    Sunny pleitte schuldig wegens mentale ziekte en werd veroordeeld tot leven plus 25 jaar, met kans op voorwaardelijke vrijlating na 30 jaar.

  • Hoe beschrijven familieleden Sunny's gedrag?

    Familieleden beschreven Sunny als afwezig tijdens de aanval en wezen op zijn goede relatie met zijn zus Ashley tevoren.

  • Welke diagnose kreeg Sunny tijdens zijn voorarrest?

    Tijdens zijn voorarrest werd bij Sunny Asperger en stoornissen vergelijkbaar met schizofrenie vastgesteld.

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    pleas come Qui pleas the 911 call you
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    just heard was placed by James Allan
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    brazelle just 6 days before Christmas in
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    2016 when he heard gunshots coming from
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    somewhere in his family home Allan raced
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    through the house to find his
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    stepdaughter Ashley and her 16-year-old
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    brother Sunny standing over her with a
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    gun in hand his wife Nicole screaming in
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    the background Allan frantically called
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    for help as haunting as the 911 call was
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    the interrogation would turn out to be
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    even more chilling 16-year-old Sunny
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    proves to be one of the most stoic and
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    emotionless suspects we've ever seen
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    it's hard to reconcile how someone like
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    Sunny with an IQ of 155 to 160 described
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    as highly to exceptionally intelligent
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    has landed in this seat when police
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    arrived on the scene they found the
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    festively decorated exterior of the
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    house masking a horror scene inside in
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    an exclusive interview Al and Nicole
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    brazelle recount what they can remember
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    from that terrifying night later we'll
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    hear from Sunny himself as she said she
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    was going to go to bed Sunny was going
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    to go to bed he'd been awake too all day
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    and at work so everybody was kind of
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    tired Allan was already I think in the
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    bedroom I think he came and told
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    everybody good night I went straight
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    into the room I just H it in Fr of my
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    robe and I think Ashley was going to go
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    ahead and eat some soup that I had
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    cooked as soon as I go to sit down on
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    the bed the lights already off in the
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    bedroom I hear what I think is
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    firecrackers it's all my mind pop HP pop
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    firecrackers Sunny being such a mild kid
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    and Ashley being they both were kind of
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    like little professors responsible kids
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    they got great grades in school I know
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    that I bought firecrackers for New
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    Year's Eve and I'm thinking I cannot
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    believe one of them let off firecrackers
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    cuz I hear Ashley say Sunny very
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    surprised in shock that's all I hear
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    through the door and then I hear
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    firecrackers so I throw back on my robe
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    I don't have clothes I throw back on my
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    robe Allan jumps up and I so I go to go
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    outside I mean I am furious like what
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    are who let off firecrackers in the
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    house what I can't even believe they
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    would do this either one I don't even
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    think the either one would do it I was
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    closest to the door going out into the
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    hallway and whenever I heard it you know
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    pretty much immediately I knew what it
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    was you know because I am a country boy
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    I'm a country boy I'm a Hunter and I
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    have guns and I've always had guns so I
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    immediately knew what it was but I
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    didn't put it that it was somebody from
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    in the house like Ashley or sunny I
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    thought somebody had came in the house
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    you know like a Breakin so I immediately
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    reached down and grabbed my handgun and
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    started toward the door and something
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    told me don't take your gun out there
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    and of course you know you have these
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    conversations with yourself really
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    really fast like are you crazy I'm not
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    going out there cuz I knew it was
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    gunfire and I'm like I'm not going out
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    there without some kind of protection
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    you know heard it again pretty much you
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    know don't take your gun out there put
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    it down so I Put the gun down and I kind
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    of tossed it on the bed and headed out
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    the door
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    and when I got there I immediately saw
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    Sunny standing there and he had a gun in
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    his hand of course I didn't know where
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    he got the gun because it was a
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    Christmas present that I didn't know
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    about so I yelled at him I said sunny I
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    said Put the gun down he was
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    immediately obedient as he always was
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    and he leaned down he put the gun down
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    and I kind of grabbed him by his shirt
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    and kind of scooted him or slung him
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    over to the side up against the hallway
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    there and I said you stand right here I
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    said do not move move he did he just
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    stood there he didn't say anything but
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    he stood there so we went to check on
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    Ashley that's when she went this is all
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    in a matter of like instant seconds I'm
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    like Ashley Ashley because I see no I
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    don't realize I'm still looking for like
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    a firecracker damage I know this sounds
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    strange but the mind you know like I'm
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    still stuck on firecrackers it was at
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    this point that Sunny's stepfather
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    rushed back to the bedroom to find a
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    cell phone and call for help that exact
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    minute I guess Sunny bends down picks up
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    that gun again it's on the ground he's a
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    little bit away from it I have pulled
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    Ashley from the couch not being a I'm a
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    tall gal but she was only about 5'5
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    lightweight but I trying to get her pull
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    her from the couch and I realize he's so
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    he's grabbed the gun he runs to our
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    bedroom so I start screaming for Allan
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    oh my
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    god do
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    it do
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    it this man runs through the house and
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    runs to the bedroom Sunny you know when
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    he took off to the bedroom and I turned
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    around I so I'm to go to the bedroom I
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    started toward the door Sunny had ran
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    around our bed to the furthest point
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    away from the doorway he was staring
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    Straight Ahead at the door but he was
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    trying to change the clip in the gun to
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    change the magazine in the gun because
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    he had shot everything out of the first
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    clip whenever he was in the living room
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    he's holding the gun he's holding both
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    of the magazines in his hand and and
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    he's not looking down to see what he's
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    doing and of course he had never handled
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    his gun before you know so by the time I
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    ran over there he pushed the magazine
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    into the gun and he stuck the gun up to
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    my chest from where I was at at this
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    point in time I was up right in front of
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    him you know and I was fixing to grab a
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    hold of him and and he was just kind of
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    staring straight ahead and he just
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    started pulling the trigger he had put
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    the same magazine back in that he
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    started with that was empty if he had
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    gotten the right magazine I wouldn't be
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    here today i' have you know I definitely
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    wouldn't have made it and so I snatched
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    the gun and everything out of his hands
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    and I grabbed him and just kind of
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    walked him into the living room and set
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    him on the little love seat and he was
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    kind of looking over the living room
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    where Nikki was still in there with
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    Ashley on the floor he's still in dad
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    mode he says sit right there and don't
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    move which is shocking to me because of
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    the situation and the most wicked
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    horrible heart trembling terrorizing
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    thing
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    happened I'll I'm doing this and I look
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    up he's he's trying to unlock the door
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    so then the police come and get a towel
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    and I mean I'm frantic his eyes are all
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    the dark suddenly now this is someone
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    I've been with just 30 minutes this is
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    my son right we've all been eating and
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    snacking and on a video chat everything
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    around here has become dark black and
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    the the voice that comes out of the
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    mouth says because I'm s I'm literally
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    hysterical at this point I'm screaming
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    what happened Ashley answer me because
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    there is no I mean you would think if a
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    whole clip right she would be there
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    would be blood right there's none I'm
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    screaming as what happen what happened
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    what happened I hear the most darkest
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    deep voice say she can't talk to you
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    she's dead when police finally arrived
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    to take control of the scene they found
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    bullets behind the couch and in the
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    storage drawer beneath it the gun was
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    found in the master bedroom where
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    Sunny's stepfather had left it after
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    taking it from him police were put in
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    the peculiar predicament of having both
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    a suspect and weapon already established
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    before they
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    arrived as paramedics raced to save
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    Ashley's life investigators arrested
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    Sunny Kim and took him to be questioned
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    before he learned his sister's fate
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    please note that throughout the
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    interview police addressed Sunny by his
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    middle name Christopher the following
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    neverbe seen footage has been analyzed
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    by a qualified team including a licensed
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    professional counselor a licensed
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    clinical psychologist and a licensed
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    attorney Sunny spends a good deal of his
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    time waiting to speak with officers
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    conversing with himself while the audio
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    isn't easily discernible he appears to
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    be talking about computers yeah was
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    there top it was supposed to be I
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    think suppos supposed to be $500 for
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    their
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    [Music]
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    selling mat speed 6
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    hey
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    Christopher hey my name is Josh I'm
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    calling Josh I'm investigator with
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    Columbia County how you doing man okay
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    in Georgia a minor may be taken into
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    custody during a lawful arrest Georgia
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    law states that a law enforcement
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    officer taking a child or in this case
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    16-year-old Sunny into custody must
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    promptly notify the parent guardian or
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    legal custodian about why the child is
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    being brought into custody once in
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    custody if the police want to question
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    the minor they may do so without the
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    parent present as there doesn't appear
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    to be a definitive law that states
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    parents must consent to interrogation of
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    their minor child while police May
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    interrogate the minor without parental
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    consent the court will still determine
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    if any statements made under a Miranda
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    waiver are
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    admissible with this all in mind the
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    officer is free to get to the heart of
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    the matter he jumps right in and asks
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    about the victim Sunny's sister Ashley
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    tell me about your sister uh actually
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    Kim I think she was
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    2022 she Liv in Colorado she was she was
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    recent yeah she recently broke up lost
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    her job broke up with
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    boyfriend it is uh she move she came
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    back over here for Christmas okay after
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    attending a concert in Atlanta when she
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    remember 3 days ago something like that
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    as far as actually goes um that's it
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    I any particular information chillingly
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    Sunny uses the past tense when
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    discussing his sister even though he has
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    no way of knowing her current medical
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    status Ian has she been in town
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    long only for a few days when did she
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    move out to Colorado was about a year
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    ago she got a
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    secretary yeah I think there secretary
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    paperwork stuff paperwork stuff boring
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    stuff right yeah sing stuff
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    I understand the officer switches back
  • 00:11:01
    to asking about Sunny just like when he
  • 00:11:04
    was asked about his sister Sunny gives
  • 00:11:06
    us superficial impersonal answer from
  • 00:11:10
    what I from what I GA you have a you
  • 00:11:11
    have a job you work and you've already
  • 00:11:13
    kind of graduated high school yes he
  • 00:11:15
    tell me a littleit about
  • 00:11:16
    yourself 16 years old male stating that
  • 00:11:20
    he's 16 years old male is a highly
  • 00:11:23
    atypical manner of speech and an
  • 00:11:25
    indication that Sunny may be completely
  • 00:11:27
    detached from what just happened with
  • 00:11:28
    his sister since this description of
  • 00:11:31
    himself seems to be made in third person
  • 00:11:34
    where did you go to where did you go to
  • 00:11:35
    High School uh I was some sort SP okay
  • 00:11:38
    and then you uh finished up and taking
  • 00:11:41
    some classes at GMC y okay and do you
  • 00:11:44
    have a job yes where do you work I
  • 00:11:46
    Computer Exchange do you really yes I'm
  • 00:11:48
    Washington been there a couple times
  • 00:11:50
    really nice good good service over there
  • 00:11:52
    always been pleased with work that I had
  • 00:11:55
    done my computers notice how intense his
  • 00:11:57
    eye contact is normally this can be an
  • 00:12:00
    indication that someone is watching to
  • 00:12:02
    see if the other person accepts what
  • 00:12:04
    they're saying especially in the case of
  • 00:12:06
    a lie as someone wants to see if they're
  • 00:12:09
    being believed but Sunny has no reason
  • 00:12:11
    to be looking for acceptance given what
  • 00:12:13
    he's saying instead this might indicate
  • 00:12:16
    that he has some kind of social skills
  • 00:12:18
    deficit and he's been taught to make eye
  • 00:12:20
    contact rather than naturally making
  • 00:12:22
    some eye contact as part of typical
  • 00:12:25
    conversation he comes across as robotic
  • 00:12:28
    so far here we see the officer once
  • 00:12:31
    again attempting to connect with sunny
  • 00:12:32
    on a personal level by establishing
  • 00:12:35
    common ground and building Rapport just
  • 00:12:38
    like before though Sunny doesn't appear
  • 00:12:40
    to care and does not respond as the
  • 00:12:42
    officer had likely hoped with that
  • 00:12:45
    technique rendered pointless the officer
  • 00:12:47
    is forced to ask Sunny more direct
  • 00:12:50
    questions and his response is disturbing
  • 00:12:53
    to say the least I wanted to talk to you
  • 00:12:56
    about the V that happened tonight okay
  • 00:12:57
    can you walk me through everything that
  • 00:12:59
    happened tonight Christopher kind of
  • 00:13:00
    start start at the beginning sure uh so
  • 00:13:04
    I suppose the beginning is yes uh bit of
  • 00:13:07
    pretext I suppose okay uh we had planned
  • 00:13:10
    to get U my father knew 1911 45 tal
  • 00:13:14
    Crystal uh about a week ago we picked up
  • 00:13:16
    from academy uh I we were hiding in my
  • 00:13:20
    room and we could package it and put it
  • 00:13:22
    under the tree uh basically well this
  • 00:13:25
    yesterday night but uh earlier that I
  • 00:13:29
    Yeah couple hours ago coule
  • 00:13:33
    hours this interaction shows that Sunny
  • 00:13:35
    may not be oriented at time which could
  • 00:13:38
    be considered typical given the stress
  • 00:13:40
    of the situation he may not show any
  • 00:13:43
    overt signs of distress but the way he
  • 00:13:45
    described himself a couple of minutes
  • 00:13:47
    ago plus his lack of awareness of
  • 00:13:49
    exactly when he shot his sister are
  • 00:13:51
    indications of emotional
  • 00:13:53
    distress uh walked out of the room with
  • 00:13:56
    the gun loaded F first magazine was the
  • 00:13:59
    wanted the extended grip eight rounds in
  • 00:14:01
    it uh oh seven rounds in it and One in
  • 00:14:04
    the Chamber and then second mag in my
  • 00:14:06
    left pocket uh this one here was seven
  • 00:14:09
    rounds in it in your in your left pocket
  • 00:14:11
    yes front pocket or back pocket uh front
  • 00:14:13
    pocket uh I also I had a pair of gloves
  • 00:14:16
    on uh yes a pair of uh work gloves is uh
  • 00:14:22
    V here here Sunny is clearly a detail
  • 00:14:26
    oriented guy as he describes his gloves
  • 00:14:29
    sometimes suspects May provide these
  • 00:14:31
    types of unnecessary details out of
  • 00:14:33
    nervousness and their desire to
  • 00:14:35
    cooperate with the interrogation process
  • 00:14:38
    Sunny must at least be aware that he's
  • 00:14:40
    in trouble so it makes sense that he
  • 00:14:42
    wants to be cooperative at the same time
  • 00:14:45
    his mention of being male and the other
  • 00:14:47
    details he's provided thus far could
  • 00:14:49
    also give us a clue as to his
  • 00:14:51
    personality type possibly very rigid and
  • 00:14:55
    perfectionistic after that I walked out
  • 00:14:57
    to the living room and I turned left I
  • 00:15:00
    saw my sister and I put about eight
  • 00:15:04
    rounds into her chest on
  • 00:15:06
    hereo Sunny says ish again this also
  • 00:15:10
    indicates his high degree of rigidity
  • 00:15:12
    and Precision in the way he thinks and
  • 00:15:14
    speaks Sunny also maintains his highly
  • 00:15:17
    formal and rigid manner of speaking as
  • 00:15:19
    if he was providing stepbystep
  • 00:15:21
    instructions to someone or telling a
  • 00:15:23
    story he's markedly detached from the
  • 00:15:26
    actual event his voice remains even and
  • 00:15:29
    he still is showing no signs of overt
  • 00:15:32
    stress uh after that uh my both of my
  • 00:15:35
    parents uh ran from their bedroom door I
  • 00:15:38
    came up St find the door held mostly
  • 00:15:41
    together leg in my hands and then
  • 00:15:42
    dropped them on the floor while they're
  • 00:15:44
    watching me after they come out uh
  • 00:15:46
    mother my mother rushed to my sister's
  • 00:15:49
    party my father started calling 9 911 or
  • 00:15:53
    911 the way that Sunny presents being
  • 00:15:55
    really out of touch with reality and
  • 00:15:57
    definitely out of touch with a emotions
  • 00:15:59
    and empathy is similar to another case
  • 00:16:02
    that of Michael Hernandez Michael told
  • 00:16:05
    investigators that he wasn't angry when
  • 00:16:07
    he killed his friend haime Goff but that
  • 00:16:10
    he wanted to try murder um I was
  • 00:16:13
    planning to murder him and is there any
  • 00:16:15
    specific reason why you planned this no
  • 00:16:18
    there's not and once they did that uh
  • 00:16:23
    yes uh so the gun was left on the ground
  • 00:16:25
    I believe about 10 to 20 seconds after
  • 00:16:27
    he' started calling uh he walked away
  • 00:16:30
    and I went for the gun and grabbed the
  • 00:16:32
    Extra Magazine from my pocket however
  • 00:16:34
    I'm not very skill in firearm so uh I
  • 00:16:38
    didn't love the magazine correctly and
  • 00:16:39
    wasn't able to chamber around attempted
  • 00:16:41
    to shoot my father once and then I sort
  • 00:16:45
    of it P F play Gana and then tried sh
  • 00:16:49
    again not very good at firearm so I
  • 00:16:52
    didn't I wasn't able to kill him but
  • 00:16:55
    after that uh yes this took the away
  • 00:16:58
    from me I sat back down on the couch uh
  • 00:17:01
    waited for them to arrive um basically
  • 00:17:04
    process of them uh tending to Sister RS
  • 00:17:08
    AC came back she was B off on the ground
  • 00:17:11
    yes and then that's when the police
  • 00:17:13
    arrived I was put in cups and car up the
  • 00:17:16
    squad car and after that uh for a while
  • 00:17:20
    after came what was either fire truck or
  • 00:17:23
    Eng D but rest is you uh P wow okay
  • 00:17:29
    Sunny explains everything in a very
  • 00:17:31
    distanced way including his own arrest
  • 00:17:33
    as if he's completely detached from the
  • 00:17:35
    world around him depersonalization
  • 00:17:38
    involves feeling detached from oneself
  • 00:17:41
    as if observing one's thoughts emotions
  • 00:17:43
    and actions from a distance other
  • 00:17:46
    symptoms include feeling emotionally
  • 00:17:47
    numb disconnected from one's
  • 00:17:49
    surroundings and experiencing memory
  • 00:17:52
    difficulties Sunny makes no effort to
  • 00:17:55
    hide his intentions either he references
  • 00:17:57
    his sister's body body instead of
  • 00:17:59
    calling her by name again at this point
  • 00:18:02
    in time Sunny doesn't know whether she's
  • 00:18:04
    dead or alive he also openly admits the
  • 00:18:07
    trying to shoot his father
  • 00:18:09
    twice he could have taken the
  • 00:18:11
    opportunity to claim he had a change of
  • 00:18:13
    heart in an effort to potentially look
  • 00:18:15
    better but instead admits that he wanted
  • 00:18:18
    to and would have shot his father if the
  • 00:18:20
    gun had not stopped working
  • 00:18:22
    unfortunately there's no other
  • 00:18:24
    information about why exactly the gun
  • 00:18:26
    stopped working chilling he shows
  • 00:18:29
    absolutely no remorse and continues to
  • 00:18:32
    sound cold detached flat and methodical
  • 00:18:36
    he might as well be describing how to
  • 00:18:37
    put a computer together piece by piece
  • 00:18:40
    when you were putting when you were
  • 00:18:42
    putting the uh the magazine into into
  • 00:18:44
    the weapon and shammer around what what
  • 00:18:46
    were your what was your plan uh
  • 00:18:48
    initially U the my idea was uh kill
  • 00:18:53
    father mother sister in order of uh
  • 00:18:56
    threat so some re though I didn't go
  • 00:18:59
    along with that I'm not sure suppose I
  • 00:19:01
    didn't really act the way I was planed
  • 00:19:04
    for some reason Sunny ranks his family
  • 00:19:06
    in order of threat it could be assumed
  • 00:19:09
    that he means he intended to kill them
  • 00:19:10
    in order of who was best equipped to
  • 00:19:12
    disarm and stop him but that isn't
  • 00:19:15
    necessarily true the officer will have
  • 00:19:17
    to follow up on this later for now
  • 00:19:20
    though he lets Sunny maintain his train
  • 00:19:22
    of thought and it's important that the
  • 00:19:24
    interrogator doesn't interrupt once they
  • 00:19:26
    get a suspect talking this is because it
  • 00:19:29
    allows them to get their full
  • 00:19:31
    uninfluenced account of what happened
  • 00:19:33
    and the interrogation only gets stranger
  • 00:19:37
    and uh the idea was walk into the
  • 00:19:39
    bedroom both parents were sleeping or
  • 00:19:42
    resting your father your mother and then
  • 00:19:44
    walk out into the living room and kill
  • 00:19:46
    her you know of that smack you for I
  • 00:19:50
    forget the word but any that was the
  • 00:19:52
    plan however U I suppose humans act in a
  • 00:19:55
    weird ways and me being human I'm SP
  • 00:19:57
    same same thing wore the gloves is
  • 00:19:59
    because I figured my hands would get
  • 00:20:00
    sweaty humans U nervous and and such so
  • 00:20:04
    I wore them so you know I would be able
  • 00:20:05
    to maintain my grip on the weapon and
  • 00:20:07
    such uh however uh still humans didn't
  • 00:20:12
    act very smart way uh basically unloaded
  • 00:20:16
    all the rounds I meant to only put one
  • 00:20:18
    or two in there but I don't know i'
  • 00:20:21
    never shot someone before so they seemed
  • 00:20:24
    like blanks I mean basically nothing I
  • 00:20:27
    didn't could there wasn't any
  • 00:20:28
    understandable imp pack or uh anything
  • 00:20:30
    so I I just kept on shooting and then
  • 00:20:32
    after that put walked up to and moved to
  • 00:20:37
    the my pant store and stood there with
  • 00:20:39
    you know weapon in my right hand right
  • 00:20:41
    and magazine left hand and I droing God
  • 00:20:45
    Nicole brazelle Sunny's mother ran an
  • 00:20:48
    embroidery business out of the house
  • 00:20:50
    teaching textile Arts to students his
  • 00:20:53
    stepfather Allan had accepted Sunny like
  • 00:20:55
    his own son Sunny's sister Ashley was
  • 00:20:58
    known to be outgoing and had been
  • 00:21:00
    enjoying her time at College in Colorado
  • 00:21:03
    in the sixth grade Sunny asked his
  • 00:21:05
    mother if he could drop out of school in
  • 00:21:07
    large part because he felt bored he was
  • 00:21:10
    homeschooled for a while and at 13 he
  • 00:21:13
    started working for a company who his
  • 00:21:14
    mother had a contract with before
  • 00:21:17
    working at a computer store at 15 he
  • 00:21:20
    started at the Georgia Military College
  • 00:21:23
    where he completed High School classes
  • 00:21:24
    alongside college
  • 00:21:26
    classes altogether they appear to be the
  • 00:21:29
    picture of a happy
  • 00:21:31
    family in an exclusive interview Sunny
  • 00:21:34
    talks about his childhood in more detail
  • 00:21:36
    and about his relationship with his
  • 00:21:38
    mother and sister my biological father
  • 00:21:41
    left the country and went to Soul Korea
  • 00:21:44
    and my mother kept us a float tooth and
  • 00:21:46
    nail and she fought for us prior to my
  • 00:21:49
    incarceration I was actively working at
  • 00:21:51
    Computer Exchange and taking classes at
  • 00:21:53
    TMC and I was I suppose living a good
  • 00:21:57
    life I was always provided for I was
  • 00:21:59
    always taking care of and I had Ling
  • 00:22:00
    parents every step of the way and she
  • 00:22:02
    got us out of dead eventually we were
  • 00:22:04
    you know a stable household she met
  • 00:22:06
    Allan and he's a great guy I I have had
  • 00:22:10
    a really wonderful set of parents I
  • 00:22:12
    don't think I could have asked for I owe
  • 00:22:15
    everything to them every pretty much
  • 00:22:17
    everything good in my life they've been
  • 00:22:19
    responsible for in some way shape or
  • 00:22:20
    form Ashley was uh the bigger sister she
  • 00:22:24
    had the kindest heart out of all of us
  • 00:22:26
    actually got a lot of our kindness I'm
  • 00:22:28
    not sure what I got I lean on her a lot
  • 00:22:31
    for a lot of things she was between her
  • 00:22:34
    and my mother they were the only two
  • 00:22:35
    stable things I really had in my life
  • 00:22:37
    Ashley was someone you could always come
  • 00:22:38
    to and she was always put together I
  • 00:22:40
    could always trust to judgment I suppose
  • 00:22:42
    I get my morals from her you know she
  • 00:22:44
    had real heart people I love that about
  • 00:22:47
    her he was her favorite out of everybody
  • 00:22:50
    and she was his favorite they had the
  • 00:22:54
    most in common they were both very smart
  • 00:22:56
    very high iq's yet Sunny manages to
  • 00:22:59
    erase all of that personality and all of
  • 00:23:02
    that love in the interrogation room this
  • 00:23:05
    clinical and detached way of speaking
  • 00:23:07
    appears to be a symptom of
  • 00:23:09
    depersonalization which is closely
  • 00:23:11
    related to dissociative Amnesia and
  • 00:23:13
    dissociative identity disorder two very
  • 00:23:16
    serious mental illnesses there's no
  • 00:23:19
    anger here no emotion at all and no
  • 00:23:22
    indication that he had major issues with
  • 00:23:24
    his family it's almost like he was
  • 00:23:26
    possessed and is now just describing
  • 00:23:29
    what he saw he's speaking like the
  • 00:23:31
    lights are on but nobody's home I
  • 00:23:34
    suppose I just saw her and I not didn't
  • 00:23:38
    recognize was but shot the first person
  • 00:23:41
    I saw I suppose U not reaction obviously
  • 00:23:45
    actually didn't not the way I intended
  • 00:23:48
    to I didn't make enough room or take
  • 00:23:51
    into account you know the way humans Act
  • 00:23:54
    Right mainly me as far as humans go so
  • 00:23:58
    was with sunny so forthcoming regarding
  • 00:24:00
    the details of the crime the
  • 00:24:02
    investigator seeks to confirm what
  • 00:24:04
    Sunny's stepfather Alan brazelle told
  • 00:24:06
    them about the crime when your father
  • 00:24:09
    went to chase after you uh in the
  • 00:24:11
    bedroom what bedroom was that was the it
  • 00:24:15
    was the largest bedroom it's the master
  • 00:24:17
    bedroom the one where they sleep okay so
  • 00:24:19
    yeah had a large KingSize bedroom and
  • 00:24:22
    and you told me that you had at that
  • 00:24:24
    point in time you had had dropped the
  • 00:24:25
    weapon and then and then you reached
  • 00:24:27
    down and picked it up about 20 seconds
  • 00:24:29
    later there uh it was about 2 3 ft about
  • 00:24:33
    a meter away from me right so I ran from
  • 00:24:35
    the C grab it and then ran off and then
  • 00:24:38
    then take the magazine from my pocket
  • 00:24:40
    and what were you trying to do when you
  • 00:24:42
    ran away uh my plan was to grab a weapon
  • 00:24:45
    and load the magazine and shoot my
  • 00:24:46
    father and then shoot my mother okay and
  • 00:24:51
    your father ran after you and and caught
  • 00:24:53
    you in the bedroom and you did not have
  • 00:24:55
    a chance to load the magazine at that
  • 00:24:56
    point in time or what happened at
  • 00:24:59
    but I I fumed with it and I did load it
  • 00:25:01
    into the gun not all the way though so I
  • 00:25:04
    wasn't able to pull back the ham all the
  • 00:25:06
    way uh so slide back all the way uh the
  • 00:25:08
    second time after I fainted uh putting
  • 00:25:11
    the gun down after he told me you know
  • 00:25:13
    don't do it Etc uh after I put it back I
  • 00:25:16
    tried to uh send the magazine back in
  • 00:25:19
    with the back of my WR about H right uh
  • 00:25:22
    and then pull slide back however but
  • 00:25:24
    that didn't solve it either so he ended
  • 00:25:27
    up uh taking fire on away from me and
  • 00:25:29
    walked back to the Liv room did uh did
  • 00:25:32
    you attempt to pull the trigger while he
  • 00:25:33
    was coming at you yes okay both times
  • 00:25:36
    both times and both time it it failed to
  • 00:25:38
    fire that right okay and that's when
  • 00:25:40
    your father caught up with you and and
  • 00:25:42
    took the weapon from you did did you say
  • 00:25:45
    anything to them after that or or what
  • 00:25:47
    happened after after he got the weapon
  • 00:25:50
    from you uh after that uh basically uh
  • 00:25:53
    he walk he ran back into the living room
  • 00:25:56
    uh Put the gun down on the ground uh
  • 00:25:58
    cross the living room away from the
  • 00:26:00
    couch where I sitting which is red see I
  • 00:26:03
    believe my pars parents called it was a
  • 00:26:05
    red couch I knew and he placed it on the
  • 00:26:08
    other side and then helped my mother in
  • 00:26:09
    attending my sister's WS after he put
  • 00:26:12
    the Garden on the ground I did consider
  • 00:26:14
    either running to my room where there
  • 00:26:16
    was a loaded shotgun or running for a
  • 00:26:18
    gun however I didn't act on either so I
  • 00:26:22
    figured my chances were low of getting
  • 00:26:24
    either done so I didn't think it was
  • 00:26:26
    worth it with sunny confession recorded
  • 00:26:29
    in more than sufficient detail we can
  • 00:26:31
    now tackle the question of why Sunny
  • 00:26:33
    decided to undertake such unprovoked
  • 00:26:36
    violence what were you thinking about
  • 00:26:39
    what what made you want to kill your
  • 00:26:41
    sister and your parents tonight what
  • 00:26:43
    what's been going on um some pretty good
  • 00:26:46
    actually uh I've done a job had classes
  • 00:26:50
    it's going pretty well uh yeah I uh
  • 00:26:54
    nothing really is bad been happening to
  • 00:26:56
    me pretty good nothing bad you just
  • 00:26:58
    wanted to do it uh not even want I just
  • 00:27:03
    did let's back up excuse me a few
  • 00:27:05
    minutes ago we were talking about when
  • 00:27:07
    you were loading the uh the putting the
  • 00:27:09
    rounds in the magazine and then loading
  • 00:27:11
    that magazine into your weapon and you
  • 00:27:13
    said that the initial plan was to go to
  • 00:27:15
    your parents room and then shoot them
  • 00:27:17
    first and then go into your living room
  • 00:27:20
    where your sister was and then shoot her
  • 00:27:22
    what made you deviate from that plan I
  • 00:27:25
    don't know I when I first saw my sister
  • 00:27:27
    and
  • 00:27:28
    first thought I suppose was I don't know
  • 00:27:31
    uh I I was supposed to go to my parents
  • 00:27:34
    room and K uh father and mother but I
  • 00:27:37
    saw my sister and for some reason I
  • 00:27:41
    don't know
  • 00:27:42
    why I I remember the
  • 00:27:46
    magazine is there any reason why you'd
  • 00:27:48
    want to why you want to kill everybody I
  • 00:27:50
    mean did they they hurt you no have they
  • 00:27:53
    made life miserable for you they abusive
  • 00:27:56
    to you physically not any none
  • 00:27:59
    whatsoever there there is no reason for
  • 00:28:01
    it it
  • 00:28:04
    just I can think of in two words Sunny
  • 00:28:08
    provides what could be very important
  • 00:28:10
    information if he had been abused as a
  • 00:28:12
    child this may give some insight into
  • 00:28:14
    his detached Behavior as ongoing
  • 00:28:17
    physical abuse is often the accepted
  • 00:28:19
    explanation behind pathological
  • 00:28:21
    dissociative Behavior or disorders this
  • 00:28:24
    could be in reference to Sunny's
  • 00:28:25
    biological father who was Alle edly
  • 00:28:28
    neglectful but Sunny doesn't elaborate
  • 00:28:31
    so the officer tries honing in on a
  • 00:28:33
    different part of the crime what made
  • 00:28:35
    you want to kill your mother and father
  • 00:28:38
    there wasn't really any motivation for
  • 00:28:40
    it actually uh one thing oh yeah never
  • 00:28:42
    mind I told you about uh trying to shoot
  • 00:28:45
    my father and then failing and trying
  • 00:28:46
    again never mind but as far as
  • 00:28:48
    motivation control my parents uh none of
  • 00:28:52
    that existed uh my father did a lot of
  • 00:28:56
    the chores my mother worked quite hard
  • 00:28:58
    at her job father insisted uh my mother
  • 00:29:01
    at her job and they we all had a
  • 00:29:05
    relatively good life did you get a sense
  • 00:29:08
    of
  • 00:29:09
    satisfaction when when this was going on
  • 00:29:12
    uh no I didn't really feel anything and
  • 00:29:15
    your mother was tending to your sister's
  • 00:29:16
    wounds like you said and you were
  • 00:29:19
    considering when she was asking you why
  • 00:29:21
    did you do it she did that a number of
  • 00:29:23
    times yeah I'm sure um what was running
  • 00:29:26
    through your mind when when she said
  • 00:29:27
    that at the moment it the only thing
  • 00:29:29
    that I was thinking of really was either
  • 00:29:32
    the gun and then and then after you know
  • 00:29:34
    either the gun on shotgun in my room
  • 00:29:36
    passed through my mind I didn't really
  • 00:29:39
    think of much it was just sort of you
  • 00:29:42
    were you were still in your plan mode of
  • 00:29:44
    can I get a weapon and kill mom or dad
  • 00:29:47
    is that what you were thinking yes did
  • 00:29:48
    that make you happy uh no I I didn't it
  • 00:29:51
    make you sad no I didn't really feel
  • 00:29:54
    much it just sort of happened
  • 00:29:58
    do you have any idea why it just
  • 00:30:00
    happened uh not
  • 00:30:03
    really Sunny's answer of not really here
  • 00:30:06
    is interesting he actually seems to not
  • 00:30:09
    understand it himself no I was going to
  • 00:30:11
    say that noted itself to my family I
  • 00:30:13
    just for no reason but having had
  • 00:30:15
    weapons in my room for basically one or
  • 00:30:17
    two years now that's you know I've had
  • 00:30:19
    the opportunity for a while why did you
  • 00:30:22
    decide tonight uh tonight was I suppose
  • 00:30:24
    it was a bit spontaneous yeah I thought
  • 00:30:27
    as 6 days till Christmas or something
  • 00:30:29
    like that but uh that mother my my
  • 00:30:31
    mother would coming in you know back
  • 00:30:34
    together the next day or something along
  • 00:30:35
    the sign so I figured the likelihood of
  • 00:30:38
    her wrapping the gun next day is fairly
  • 00:30:40
    High soed it now I still have access to
  • 00:30:43
    the firearm even though Sunny's
  • 00:30:45
    rationale for committing the crime
  • 00:30:46
    tonight is disturbing it still doesn't
  • 00:30:49
    entirely make sense even if the gun had
  • 00:30:51
    been wrapped and placed under the
  • 00:30:53
    Christmas tree Sunny would have still
  • 00:30:55
    had access to it and multiple other
  • 00:30:57
    Firearms he could have used in the
  • 00:30:58
    attack is this something you thought
  • 00:31:00
    about doing for a while or is this
  • 00:31:02
    something that you've been thinking
  • 00:31:03
    about for the past couple minutes it was
  • 00:31:06
    sort of impulsive and not really
  • 00:31:09
    something I've considered before here
  • 00:31:11
    Sunny expresses an impulsive element to
  • 00:31:14
    his actions which supports the fact that
  • 00:31:16
    he may struggle to differentiate between
  • 00:31:18
    his thoughts and the reality of acting
  • 00:31:20
    out his thoughts what ultimately made
  • 00:31:23
    you decide to to shoot your sister in
  • 00:31:25
    the
  • 00:31:26
    chest I I don't know something in my I
  • 00:31:31
    can't remember what was something in my
  • 00:31:32
    mind basically left to me uh loading the
  • 00:31:35
    gun
  • 00:31:37
    and that what was something interesting
  • 00:31:41
    happens when Sunny tries to talk about
  • 00:31:43
    what was going through his mind in the
  • 00:31:45
    moments before the shooting well spoken
  • 00:31:48
    up to this point Sunny starts to stumble
  • 00:31:50
    over his words giving only partial
  • 00:31:53
    thoughts and attempting to start a
  • 00:31:54
    sentence over something in my I can't
  • 00:31:57
    remember was something in my mind
  • 00:31:59
    basically left to me when he isn't able
  • 00:32:01
    to describe what he thought or felt he
  • 00:32:03
    reverts the talking about the physical
  • 00:32:05
    details uh but basically end up loading
  • 00:32:07
    the gun and after the gun was loaded in
  • 00:32:09
    my bedroom I walked out and I suppose at
  • 00:32:12
    that point I I don't know I was thinking
  • 00:32:16
    but I suppose I just shot I don't really
  • 00:32:20
    have much of an explanation okay what
  • 00:32:22
    emotions were running through you when
  • 00:32:23
    this was going on nothing were you happy
  • 00:32:27
    were you
  • 00:32:28
    what I did you care kind of stood there
  • 00:32:31
    I suppose okay the stuttering and
  • 00:32:33
    stumbling over emotional words is likely
  • 00:32:36
    a sign of anxiety so he Retreats back
  • 00:32:38
    into the world of dissociated details
  • 00:32:41
    this could be due to a lack of comfort
  • 00:32:43
    or understanding of emotions to begin
  • 00:32:45
    with you killing your family it's it's
  • 00:32:49
    wrong uh yes it is socially immorally
  • 00:32:52
    wrong and didn't you think you were
  • 00:32:54
    going to get in trouble if that was to
  • 00:32:55
    happen yes I was certainly going to be
  • 00:32:58
    apprehended by his always okay but you
  • 00:33:00
    still went through with it anyways yes
  • 00:33:02
    why I don't know uh either it was out of
  • 00:33:08
    curiosity boredom or something else
  • 00:33:12
    chillingly curiosity or boredom could
  • 00:33:14
    have very well been the case as Sunny
  • 00:33:17
    admits although he seems to lack empathy
  • 00:33:19
    there's a degree of self-awareness here
  • 00:33:22
    when a person lacks empathy there is
  • 00:33:24
    little to no attention placed on how
  • 00:33:25
    another person would feel the presence
  • 00:33:28
    of empathy is critical because it is in
  • 00:33:30
    large part what directs moral decision
  • 00:33:33
    making without it someone like Sunny may
  • 00:33:35
    just act on impulse or out of sheer
  • 00:33:37
    curiosity or boredom Sunny identifies
  • 00:33:41
    over and over that he doesn't understand
  • 00:33:43
    why he did this it's just sort of
  • 00:33:47
    happened I don't really either it's
  • 00:33:49
    either I don't remember or I'm
  • 00:33:52
    suppressing M or there is no
  • 00:33:55
    reason being towards the there's not
  • 00:33:58
    really much of a reason impul you knew
  • 00:34:00
    you were going to get in trouble you
  • 00:34:02
    knew it was wrong you knew you were
  • 00:34:03
    going to get caught but you didn't care
  • 00:34:06
    uh yes altogether the detective
  • 00:34:08
    interviewing Sunny has acquired a
  • 00:34:10
    significant amount of evidence the only
  • 00:34:13
    remaining missing puzzle piece is the
  • 00:34:15
    motive with enough material to charge
  • 00:34:17
    Sunny the question of his motive will be
  • 00:34:20
    left to be uncovered during trial all
  • 00:34:23
    right well give me just one minute I'll
  • 00:34:24
    be right back okay
  • 00:34:29
    after the officer leaves Sunny
  • 00:34:31
    immediately goes back to talking to
  • 00:34:33
    himself oh no see the 1060 would
  • 00:34:38
    be oh no no no yeah we moved on from it
  • 00:34:42
    was Enzo no not Enzo uh R that's what
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    temperature chip
  • 00:34:58
    was
  • 00:34:59
    like know what it was yes so off a bit
  • 00:35:04
    of and it's sort of there but know it
  • 00:35:09
    only takes 3 minutes for the officer to
  • 00:35:12
    return and tells Sunny What charges he
  • 00:35:14
    will officially be facing all right
  • 00:35:16
    Christopher you or of will be arrested
  • 00:35:18
    okay you be arrested for murder murder
  • 00:35:20
    for your sister aggravated assault on
  • 00:35:23
    your father for trying to shoot him as
  • 00:35:25
    well and then possession have a weapon
  • 00:35:28
    here the commission of felony okay you
  • 00:35:31
    expected all that though correct yes
  • 00:35:33
    okay well we're going to move forward
  • 00:35:36
    with the charges and I want to let you
  • 00:35:38
    know that that's as of right now what
  • 00:35:39
    you're going to be charged with okay
  • 00:35:41
    okay so just hang tight somebody to you
  • 00:35:43
    with you shortly and we'll get this
  • 00:35:45
    underway as far as getting you
  • 00:35:46
    transported to the jail and booked and
  • 00:35:48
    everything like that okay okay all
  • 00:35:51
    right tragically Ashley Kim succumbed to
  • 00:35:54
    her injuries before the paramedics
  • 00:35:56
    arrived Emergency Services attempted to
  • 00:35:59
    resuscitate her but they were
  • 00:36:02
    unsuccessful she was declared dead on
  • 00:36:04
    the scene shortly after Sunny was
  • 00:36:06
    arrested in our conversation with
  • 00:36:09
    Sunny's parents they remembered their
  • 00:36:11
    daughter fondly she was the pretty girl
  • 00:36:15
    that was nice unmistakably not a mean
  • 00:36:18
    girl yeah she wasn't a mean girl she had
  • 00:36:20
    a good heart um there's a lot of people
  • 00:36:23
    that spoke at her funeral that said you
  • 00:36:27
    know Ash didn't have to be nice to me
  • 00:36:29
    but she did she didn't hold grudges she
  • 00:36:32
    was a free bird free spirit she was a
  • 00:36:34
    free spirit she was full of love you
  • 00:36:36
    know love's the greatest power and she
  • 00:36:38
    was full of love she was she was very
  • 00:36:41
    she was very kind very loving like I
  • 00:36:44
    said everybody loved actually she loved
  • 00:36:46
    absurd things oh she had a she had a
  • 00:36:49
    terrible sense of humor about like what
  • 00:36:50
    is it called a dark sense of humor she
  • 00:36:52
    had the darkest sense of humor just like
  • 00:36:54
    the most morbid things her and a sister
  • 00:36:56
    of mine tooo she left morbid that's the
  • 00:36:58
    thing I miss most about like her
  • 00:37:00
    laughing cuz she would giggle about like
  • 00:37:02
    things that she's somebody you couldn't
  • 00:37:03
    sit next to at a funeral you could not
  • 00:37:06
    over there because you had me laughing
  • 00:37:08
    everyone's going to be looking at me
  • 00:37:10
    Ashley loved people saw the goodness in
  • 00:37:13
    people she really really did so many
  • 00:37:15
    times matter of fact she's who helped me
  • 00:37:17
    forgive my ex-husband cuz I felt like he
  • 00:37:19
    had really bailed on us she was like he
  • 00:37:21
    wasn't ready to be a dad mom she had
  • 00:37:23
    such a forgiving spirit in her giggle I
  • 00:37:26
    always will never forget her gigg G I
  • 00:37:28
    thought I would at one point I was
  • 00:37:29
    grieving she had a funny Giggle and she
  • 00:37:32
    had love and to honor her memory I I
  • 00:37:35
    choose love I choose to forgive everyone
  • 00:37:38
    who's made a mistake not just sunny I
  • 00:37:40
    choose to live Ashley's Joy because she
  • 00:37:42
    had Joy because she chose forgiveness
  • 00:37:45
    because you know that's weighty an
  • 00:37:47
    autopsy confirmed Sunny's claim that he
  • 00:37:49
    had shot Ashley eight times she had
  • 00:37:52
    wounds on most parts of her body except
  • 00:37:54
    for her head including her arms legs and
  • 00:37:58
    chest despite the extent of her injuries
  • 00:38:00
    her death was not immediate it was
  • 00:38:03
    determined that Ashley's lungs had
  • 00:38:04
    filled with blood and she'd perished
  • 00:38:07
    while her parents attempted to
  • 00:38:08
    administer CPR before the ambulance
  • 00:38:11
    arrived however her injuries were so
  • 00:38:14
    severe that it was unlikely Ashley could
  • 00:38:16
    have survived even if help had arrived
  • 00:38:19
    sooner while their parents were likely
  • 00:38:21
    grieving the massively traumatic death
  • 00:38:23
    of one child at the hands of another
  • 00:38:26
    Sunny remains un bothered as ever after
  • 00:38:29
    learning of his sister's demise Sunny
  • 00:38:32
    simply checks his watch and goes back to
  • 00:38:34
    talking with
  • 00:38:35
    himself see
  • 00:38:39
    probably kind
  • 00:38:43
    of R
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    if it's not telling you when it's
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    mapping even when officers arrive to
  • 00:39:17
    take him to jail he remains stoic
  • 00:39:30
    that's small
  • 00:39:33
    rest Chris these uh the deputy that's
  • 00:39:35
    right behind you he's going to take you
  • 00:39:37
    up to our jail get your fingerprinter
  • 00:39:39
    processed and get the uh get the jail
  • 00:39:42
    paperwor started on your charges okay be
  • 00:39:45
    in your stuff all
  • 00:39:50
    right with sunny detained experts were
  • 00:39:53
    left to ponder his blatantly absent
  • 00:39:55
    motive there seemed to be no reason for
  • 00:39:58
    him to shoot and kill Ashley and then
  • 00:40:00
    attempt to kill his stepfather Allen so
  • 00:40:02
    yeah she was uh my Mor compass and my my
  • 00:40:07
    and big sister all of that experts could
  • 00:40:10
    not come up with a full explanation for
  • 00:40:12
    his actions but they did develop a
  • 00:40:15
    theory it was possible that Sunny's
  • 00:40:17
    abrupt outof character violence was
  • 00:40:19
    possibly caused by a psychotic episode
  • 00:40:23
    he didn't realize for a long time it was
  • 00:40:25
    probably 8 months Maybe maybe before he
  • 00:40:28
    even realized it most people will not
  • 00:40:30
    like my answer but the sunny that night
  • 00:40:34
    when this happened was my son's body but
  • 00:40:37
    it was not his Spirit Sunny was not
  • 00:40:40
    there was there ever any kind of emotion
  • 00:40:43
    on his face not for a year and a half
  • 00:40:46
    and I and it was bad enough that he
  • 00:40:49
    basically while he was in the juvenile
  • 00:40:51
    hall you wait and trial he had no taste
  • 00:40:56
    everything tasted like burning plastic
  • 00:40:59
    had a psychological snap something
  • 00:41:02
    happened they to explain to us later
  • 00:41:03
    that everyone tasted like burning
  • 00:41:05
    plastic all the food he was eating so
  • 00:41:07
    the only thing he could eat was plain
  • 00:41:08
    Dry Cereal that's what he lived on Sunny
  • 00:41:11
    apparently told a psychologist that his
  • 00:41:13
    memory of the murder felt like watching
  • 00:41:15
    someone else or looking into a parallel
  • 00:41:18
    Dimension I felt like the strings had
  • 00:41:20
    been cut lack of a better word this is
  • 00:41:23
    the textbook definition of a
  • 00:41:24
    depersonalization episode Al though a
  • 00:41:27
    psychotic episode is a possibility Sunny
  • 00:41:30
    isn't showing any indications of
  • 00:41:32
    psychosis in the interrogation room he
  • 00:41:35
    may be talking to himself but this could
  • 00:41:37
    be due to stress or nervousness it's not
  • 00:41:40
    sufficient to conclude that he's
  • 00:41:42
    psychotic Sunny shows no signs of
  • 00:41:44
    delusional thinking and he doesn't seem
  • 00:41:46
    to be responding to
  • 00:41:48
    hallucinations his thought process is
  • 00:41:50
    logical and coherent overall though he
  • 00:41:53
    demonstrated indications of a
  • 00:41:54
    developmental delay like autism spectrum
  • 00:41:57
    disorder typically psychotic episodes
  • 00:42:00
    are preceded by changes in behavior that
  • 00:42:02
    would have been evident to his parents
  • 00:42:03
    or other adults though this is not
  • 00:42:06
    always the case sunny and Ashley's
  • 00:42:09
    parents once again weigh in on this
  • 00:42:11
    incredibly complicated aspect of the
  • 00:42:13
    case and the thing I want people most to
  • 00:42:16
    know is I know a lot of people have said
  • 00:42:20
    since this has happened you know well
  • 00:42:21
    what about Ashley and and you know why
  • 00:42:23
    can you still be loyal to your son I'm
  • 00:42:26
    loyal to my son because like I said he
  • 00:42:29
    was not there it was not done in some
  • 00:42:32
    kind of malicious intent there was no
  • 00:42:35
    fight there was no argument there was no
  • 00:42:37
    fuss there was only love between him and
  • 00:42:40
    his sister there was nothing crazy going
  • 00:42:42
    on nothing funny going on it was just
  • 00:42:46
    unbelievable that it happened and it's
  • 00:42:48
    hard for me to even believe it now even
  • 00:42:51
    though I was probably the best
  • 00:42:53
    witness that was there the whole night
  • 00:42:56
    that actually saw I actually saw the
  • 00:42:58
    most heard the most pretty much knew the
  • 00:43:02
    most CU I knew what was going on from
  • 00:43:05
    the sounds I knew what it was and I've
  • 00:43:07
    stuck by Sunny me and his his mom have
  • 00:43:10
    stuck by Sunny first off because we love
  • 00:43:12
    him and he's our son and would stick by
  • 00:43:14
    him anyway this was not something that
  • 00:43:17
    you know was like in a fit of anger or
  • 00:43:19
    it was not a planned out thing that you
  • 00:43:22
    know that he hated her or he was jealous
  • 00:43:25
    of her or any of the stuff that they
  • 00:43:27
    tried to say they tried to say that he
  • 00:43:30
    was jealous because she was outgoing and
  • 00:43:32
    he wasn't I was a single mom and my
  • 00:43:35
    ex-husband I didn't have money and he
  • 00:43:37
    this wonderful man wasn't in my life yet
  • 00:43:39
    and I think back about the time she had
  • 00:43:42
    a babysit because I couldn't afford a
  • 00:43:43
    babysitter and be at my shop because she
  • 00:43:46
    babysat him he holds so many character
  • 00:43:48
    traits of her and I know other people
  • 00:43:51
    want him destroy but he's all I have
  • 00:43:53
    left of her additionally while awaiting
  • 00:43:56
    trial at Regional Youth Detention Center
  • 00:43:58
    Sunny reportedly harmed himself multiple
  • 00:44:01
    times by slamming his head into the wall
  • 00:44:03
    and biting himself so hard that he broke
  • 00:44:05
    a tooth eventually he was diagnosed by
  • 00:44:08
    several doctors with aspergers along
  • 00:44:11
    with undisclosed disorders that are
  • 00:44:13
    similar to
  • 00:44:14
    schizophrenia as a result of this
  • 00:44:16
    potential diagnosis Sunny's defense team
  • 00:44:19
    attempted to have his confession
  • 00:44:20
    dismissed claiming that it was not given
  • 00:44:23
    when he was of sound mind the judge
  • 00:44:26
    ruled that while the diagnosis could be
  • 00:44:28
    valid a psychotic episode or any of
  • 00:44:31
    Sunny's other diagnoses would not impede
  • 00:44:33
    his intelligence he allowed the video of
  • 00:44:36
    Sunny's interrogation to be played in
  • 00:44:38
    full the brazils were not pleased by
  • 00:44:41
    this decision and maintained that some
  • 00:44:43
    aspects of the case were mishandled from
  • 00:44:45
    the beginning few minutes later an
  • 00:44:47
    investigator showed up and he was
  • 00:44:49
    explaining the situation to me he said
  • 00:44:52
    you know we're going to take him down he
  • 00:44:54
    said but we can't speak to him until his
  • 00:44:57
    his parents get there you and your wife
  • 00:44:58
    get there it's crazy they they put him
  • 00:45:00
    in the car I never saw that but I was in
  • 00:45:02
    the front yard right so they had already
  • 00:45:04
    put him in the car by this time they
  • 00:45:06
    said you know they explained that they
  • 00:45:07
    had to take him you know to I guess
  • 00:45:10
    Columbia County jail or whatever it was
  • 00:45:11
    so they took him to jail and uh said as
  • 00:45:15
    soon as we finish up here and said you
  • 00:45:18
    know we're going to call you and you'll
  • 00:45:19
    have to come down so we can interview
  • 00:45:21
    him your son but as you saw in the
  • 00:45:24
    earlier footage neither parent was
  • 00:45:26
    present for Sunny's interrogation but by
  • 00:45:29
    8:00 we we realized they're not going to
  • 00:45:31
    talk to us at all and so it's weeks
  • 00:45:33
    before we can get any conversation with
  • 00:45:35
    them they they even to get Sunny a
  • 00:45:37
    public defender because he had he went
  • 00:45:39
    into the indictment with no attorney it
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    was no parental support nothing he was
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    in there on his own but we were begging
  • 00:45:46
    to try to go but they wouldn't let us it
  • 00:45:47
    was probably what a year later before we
  • 00:45:50
    actually saw the video the first court
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    session that we went to we immediately
  • 00:45:55
    started calling the police
  • 00:45:58
    department and pretty much you know got
  • 00:46:01
    no answers they wouldn't really tell us
  • 00:46:02
    anything they told us that we couldn't
  • 00:46:04
    talk to them because they charged him as
  • 00:46:06
    an adult and do you know that they
  • 00:46:07
    didn't even give him a public defender
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    for 4 weeks ultimately in July of 2019
  • 00:46:13
    Sunny pleaded guilty by reason of mental
  • 00:46:16
    illness to murder aggravated assault and
  • 00:46:18
    two counts of possession of a firearm he
  • 00:46:21
    was sentenced to life in prison plus 25
  • 00:46:24
    years but will be eligible for parole in
  • 00:46:27
    30 years because he was convicted by
  • 00:46:30
    reason of mental illness he will
  • 00:46:32
    continue to receive psychological
  • 00:46:34
    counseling during that time Sunny's
  • 00:46:36
    parents continue to stand by him and
  • 00:46:39
    despite the terrible tragedy the family
  • 00:46:41
    has remained close and he tells us all
  • 00:46:44
    the time that he is very aware and very
  • 00:46:48
    grateful that we are still his parents
  • 00:46:52
    and that we love him and support him
  • 00:46:55
    because he knows that there are a lot of
  • 00:46:56
    people in there that lost all of their
  • 00:46:59
    family ties and everything whenever
  • 00:47:01
    whatever they did happened he Treasures
  • 00:47:03
    it he said I want you all to know he
  • 00:47:05
    said you can't ever know he said how
  • 00:47:07
    much that I appreciate it and everything
  • 00:47:10
    he said of that you're still my mom and
  • 00:47:13
    dad you still support me you never threw
  • 00:47:15
    me away you know you never he says he
  • 00:47:17
    works so hard in every day to be worthy
  • 00:47:19
    of that right in our exclusive interview
  • 00:47:22
    we asked Sunny if he remembered the day
  • 00:47:24
    of his sister's death I do
  • 00:47:27
    yes it was terrifying for me it's the
  • 00:47:31
    strangest feeling and it probably sounds
  • 00:47:34
    ridiculous and I know it will but when I
  • 00:47:36
    walked into my room the second I walked
  • 00:47:38
    through my door frame there was a shift
  • 00:47:42
    there something different I couldn't
  • 00:47:45
    really think my body was moving but I
  • 00:47:47
    wasn't able to think we asked how long
  • 00:47:50
    it took for him to start processing what
  • 00:47:52
    happened I I think I'm still struggling
  • 00:47:55
    with it to this day but I suppose for
  • 00:47:57
    the vast majority of it I didn't speak
  • 00:47:59
    for those first three or four months
  • 00:48:01
    when I was at the Juvenile Detention
  • 00:48:03
    Center I still don't really know what to
  • 00:48:06
    think there's these times when I've
  • 00:48:08
    broken down about it but my brains like
  • 00:48:11
    won't let me process it like every time
  • 00:48:14
    I try and think about it I still don't
  • 00:48:17
    really process what's happened I know
  • 00:48:19
    empirically what's happened but to this
  • 00:48:21
    day I don't understand why it happened
  • 00:48:24
    with this response in mind we ask Sunny
  • 00:48:26
    if he worked that a similar incident
  • 00:48:28
    could happen again if he was released
  • 00:48:30
    yes absolutely it's always
  • 00:48:34
    there I was kind of eager to accept a
  • 00:48:37
    plead deal already kind of consoled
  • 00:48:40
    myself with the thought that I'll be
  • 00:48:41
    spending the rest of my life in prison
  • 00:48:43
    and I'm okay with that and I I don't
  • 00:48:46
    really know if I want to be around my
  • 00:48:47
    loved ones knowing that something like
  • 00:48:49
    this could happen on a lighter topic we
  • 00:48:52
    ask Sunny to tell us a bit about his
  • 00:48:54
    life now and what his days look like
  • 00:48:57
    we normally eat breakfast at about 7
  • 00:48:59
    o'clock in the morning and for me that's
  • 00:49:01
    when I wake up my activities used to be
  • 00:49:04
    different I used to teach a math class
  • 00:49:06
    but nowadays mostly I just have
  • 00:49:08
    self-studies uh write a few stories like
  • 00:49:11
    to read I used to be really active going
  • 00:49:13
    to the library you know uh I've lost a
  • 00:49:16
    lot of that energy now and uh most of my
  • 00:49:19
    days are just spent idling I suppose we
  • 00:49:22
    asked Sunny what people could learn from
  • 00:49:24
    his circumstances and he offered us some
  • 00:49:26
    remarkable Insight if you do have a
  • 00:49:30
    family member a friend son daughter
  • 00:49:32
    child whatever that is experiencing
  • 00:49:35
    symptoms of disassociation right if
  • 00:49:37
    they're too withdrawn from their
  • 00:49:39
    environment or their surroundings
  • 00:49:41
    important that they be associated with
  • 00:49:43
    something in the world it's important to
  • 00:49:46
    not let people get too far G our final
  • 00:49:49
    question was about Ashley and what Sunny
  • 00:49:52
    would like all of us to know about her
  • 00:49:54
    she was one of those rare people in the
  • 00:49:56
    world that cared out of her heart and
  • 00:49:58
    she didn't do things out of some desire
  • 00:50:01
    for potential gain or benefit she cared
  • 00:50:03
    for everyone irregardless of whether or
  • 00:50:06
    not she knew them I have a lot of great
  • 00:50:08
    memories of my sister I I'd say if there
  • 00:50:11
    was one thing I'd want to remember is
  • 00:50:13
    that she was she was the kind of people
  • 00:50:15
    that is very rare genuinely cared about
  • 00:50:17
    people around them and I loved her for
  • 00:50:19
    it I love her for it now now that I can
  • 00:50:21
    truly appreciate what it means we want
  • 00:50:24
    to extend the utmost gratitude to Alan
  • 00:50:26
    and Nicole brazelle for being so open
  • 00:50:29
    and for allowing us to share their side
  • 00:50:31
    of this heartbreaking case
Tags
  • noodgeval
  • schietpartij
  • mentale gezondheid
  • depersonalisatie
  • familie
  • verhoor
  • intelligentie
  • criminele zaak
  • jeugddelinquentie
  • stoornis